Like you, I was extremely underwhelmed by this trilogy. I enjoyed book 1 to a degree, but really did not enjoy the sequels, which I thought were far too long. It's not your generation or attention span (I'm 53). It's Sando's writing style, at least in this trilogy: pedantic and bland. Sando is a super-nice guy and so it's hard not to like him, but this trilogy just irritated me. Your suggestion to cut 20% is generous. I think he should have cut 50%. That would have really helped the trilogy imo.

@SignificantOwl

21 күн бұрын

Arguably, cutting 33-50% of a lot of his books would vastly improve them. I gave up on Stormlight Archive after 3 books, for example, and my conclusion was precisely that (along with other problems). But I have to imagine that he's so popular that he can either tell editors to go away, or they just don't want to mess with something that works. Doesn't hurt me not to read his work, in the end, it's just fascinating to see this stuff be so popular when there are so many problems. It isn't even unique to him, but usually fantasy books could lose 50-100 pages, not 400-600.

@theimaginarium

20 күн бұрын

@@SignificantOwl He could publish anything at this point and it would be wildly popular.

I can't -- and won't -- try to tell you you should have liked this, because that's the way art works. I don't like Pollock paintings, lots of people do. I even struggle to understand what they like about them or what inspires them to learn and imitate the style. It's just a subjective thing whether I like it, and me saying it's just mad flailing at a canvas is a waste of breath and a bit insulting. So you don't vibe with the characters, find the bit of romance to be dated and predictable, and have "seen harder" magic systems. That's all fair! I found those characters interesting and fun to have around, very memorable. I like Elend, and really enjoy Allomancy and Feruchemy. That's just a difference of opinion, so I can't protest that difference. I wouldn't even bother to write this out if your review was just, like, "this stuff didn't work for me and I felt like the magic system was violated/broken for the ending." But there are three things that bother me a little bit. First, there's a ton of stuff throughout the whole thing that you claim that are just... verifiably false? Like feruchemy being common, for instance. It super isn't. Sazed is not even close to a normal steward, he's one of a very small number of feruchemists called Keepers, which the Lord Ruler is trying to eugenics out of existence. This doesn't require even a careful reading to know, it's spelled out in plain English when Vin asks Sazed about it. This isn't the only example of things you just missed and then held against the book, but I don't wanna write a novel here. Second, I totally get that you don't want to give The Final Empire credit for other books' work. That's totally fair, and (as another commenter said) if you didn't enjoy this then you probably won't like the others anyway. But a decent number of the things you hold against this book as "mistakes" are things that matter later on. This isn't a book that was meant to stand alone and got a sequel because of good sales or whatever, and the unexplained mysteries aren't loose ends that Brandon capitalized on to invent a sequel. They are foreshadowing (expert foreshadowing, whatever his weaknesses elsewhere) for future events. Despite agreeing that the book should entertain you on it's own, I do not think you are being fair with a number of these mysteries and side plots. Finally, it honestly just feels like you have a bone to pick with "Cosmerenauts." Obviously the Sanderson fans who lash out with stupid comments like the "pre-2003" one you put on screen deserve derision. That's not a good way to behave just because someone didn't like something. But in your video description you joke about people attacking your family and in the video you constantly take shots at the fandom. I'm sure you only refer to the particularly bad fans, not everybody, but around the fifth jab it really started to feel like this review was about a lot more than just the book. Extreme fans are crap, but I don't think it's fair to hold the fans against the work, you know? Again, I'm sorry that a book I enjoyed didn't work for you, and it's fair that it didn't. I just don't think, because of a number of textual errors, you gave it its due.

@WillGodar

6 ай бұрын

Just finished the Final Empire and had very mixed feelings about it. Really enjoyed some stuff but also found it too long and clearly did not connect with Kelsier in the way that I was supposed to. One thing I do not have mixed feelings about is justifying poor pacing because it sets up future stories. It's kind of like the Tom Cruise Mummy movie. That movie's entire plot stops dead for 30 minutes for world building and to set up future films and it's terrible. If they had made those sequels/spinoffs, the Mummy wouldn't have suddenly been good. I really feel like there's a tight, entertaining 400 page book in here but as it stands I feel like I spent half the book waiting for something to progress.

@blackdahliastudios263

5 ай бұрын

To elaborate on the standalone point, Brandon finished writing the whole trilogy before publishing the first book. That's why there's so much foreshadowing.

Personally I enjoyed the first book a lot, but it definitely gets enhanced if you finish the trilogy. Everything is planned out and reading even just the first page after the finishing the trilogy is pretty crazy. Not saying you should finish the trilogy, but it does get enhanced. I don’t like it when people recommend books and say that you need to get to x book for it to get good. That’s just dumb. If you didn’t like the first book, you probably won’t like the rest, but it’s a pretty crazy trilogy. You have to at least see how other people enjoy it, though. The majority of the stuff you talked about gets expanded upon a shitton. The characters and a lot of the stuff that happens with the lord ruler is key to the trilogy. All of the “filler/side” stuff is actually super important for the story. Also sorry, not trying to ramble. I feel like all the stuff I said is super vague. What I’m trying to say is that a lot of the stuff you talked about, you saw as something that you can throw away or as something that just happened for no reason, when it isn’t really like that. All three books were written at the same time and they were planned with the whole story in mind. The first book is alright, but it will leave you you with so many questions that just won’t get answered if you don’t read the other two books The lord ruler stuff you just misinterpreted. Feruchemy is not very common, because the lord ruler is making it so with eugenics… basically. He emasculates anyone that has the ability. This works because allomonacy and feruchemy are passed down genetically.He doesn’t want people to have the power he does, so that he doesn’t get challenged. He also killed the guy and took the power for a reason, not because he was oppressed ( they were never oppressed before he took power). That reason is something you don’t learn till later. You’re not told what it is on purpose. And you are right about the history of the lord ruler stuff. It doesn’t really connect with what is happening in the first book. It’s just meant to raise questions as to why stuff went down like it did. Especially with the lord rulers last words. Those are supposed to be paired together for you to ask questions and get curious for the future of the trilogy. These questions all get answered in the next book and a little bit of the third book. Like I said before, The final empire is a fine book by itself, but it’s meant to be read with the other two, because all three books in the trilogy were written at the same time. If you read it by itself there will be a lot of questions that just don’t get answers. You said that the lord ruler is just evil personified and that’s just not true, but you need that extra context to understand that. The characters are a subjective thing I guess, but they are very important and get they’re own star roles later. I personally loved the crew and did not find them forgettable. They are also pretty important for future stuff, so a lot of the pages that have to do with them aren’t wasted time like you said, but setting up for something else. Once again, books are purely subjective. Everybody has their cup of tea, so if this wasn’t for you, cool. I just think that if you understood some of the stuff that happened in the book a little better, you might have enjoyed it a little more.

@Shoe_e

6 ай бұрын

Sorry for the essay. I didn’t realize how long the comment was. Best of luck to you. Have a great day.

@3choblast3r4

6 ай бұрын

@@Shoe_e Don't ever apologize for a long comment. It just shows you thought about your points and wanted to explain them properly.

Thank you for making this video! I have literally wanted to make a KZread channel just to rant about this. I think it comes down to taste. I value characters and prose. Mistborn felt so formulaic. And it makes sense if you watch Brandon’s writing lectures. Now there are some advantages. If you make it to the third book the foreshadowing is amazing. If you are reader who cares a lot of about plot then I’m sure Brandon is amazing, maybe one of the best. However, none of the characters to me felt real, they were all there to serve some plot reason. He’s like I want x to happen in the plot… therefore I will have character do y. I want to read the way of kings because it’s meant to be his best work. However the fact that so many booktubers put mistborn in their favourite books means I doubt way of kings is much different (in terms of have a plot that feels pushed by real character decisions)

They dont wear metal jewellery, they use painted wood

Love hearing a contrary opinion. Now I hope to hear your opinion on something written by R. A. Salvator or similar. I have no idea how respected he is as an author, but I definitely have some gripes and wonder if they're genuine or personal to me

Even though I like mistborn I enjoyed this alot. Do more reviews, this was fun.

I agree with a lot of points, although I am slightly more favorable towards it (you said it was on the bad side of average, I would say it's on the good side of average). A review on goodreads has an interesting description: - Dear [kid with weird name], I know you are only a [farmer / orphan / urchin / child of a minor noble], and this will be hard for you to accept, but you [have Great Powers / are the Chosen One / insert name of funky power here]. You are the only one who can [save the world / save the universe / defeat the Empire / restore order to the Force / kill the Big Boss]. Luckily, even though you just learned your destiny fifteen minutes ago, you will make up for lost time by quickly becoming better than anyone in the history of ever at [Quidditch / dragon riding / sandworm riding / Allomancy]. Any questions? - I think it's important to take into account that this book was released in the early 2000s, so there are going to be some tropes that are generally viewed as unfavorable (fake-out deaths anyone?). I think it should also be noted that it is YA fantasy (although you said you read it at a young age), and will therefore read a bit more juvenile. Personally I wasn't particularly gripped by the story and although the ending certainly wasn't bad, I found myself to be expecting more of it (although the ending did teach me the word 'dais', one of Sanderson's favorite words and an essential definition to be familiar with if you are to read Stormlight Archive). I have not read Well of Ascension and probably won't, as it is apparently even more political and filler'y than The Final Empire. I think that, if you are not a weathered, avid fantasy reader/author, the story is quite good. Unfortunately I read this too late in my literary journey for that to be the case. Luckily there is Stormlight Archive, which I personally consider the best fantasy series so far.

After reading Name of the Wind which is my favorite book of all time, I thought I’d give the most popular author a try. Mistborn was quite juvenile. Characters were one dimensional. The world was shallow. It left me wanting more. Something deeper.

Almost all the filler parts you had a problem with are in fact a masterclass in incredible foreshadowing for the next books. Weather you actually enjoyed said parts depends on the person and not for everyone but from an objective standpoint the parts aren't filler. In food terms, not everyone enjoys bean stew but bean stew is by no means a side dish. The finale is cliche but i think it was handled with a lot more care than most writers because the immediate question on my mind after reading it was 'well why now, why cant she do it agian'. The payoff for which hits you like a train. It definitely shows that it is his earlier work, I agree characterisation isn't incredible and not really brandon's strongsuit and he has the habit of dragging scenes just a little bit too much. The mistborn trilogy for me is amazing because of its worldbuilding and the events that happen and not so much because of the characters.

Great video. I love mistborn and i get your good points, that said, as someone in the comments mention some of your dislikes are foreshadowing or just explain later. take care girlie

Yeah i agree. I'm a big brandon sanderson fan but i dont think the first mistborn trilogy is good. The first book is definitely the worst one but he story gets more interesting with each book. I wanted to reread all of his cosmere books and i struggled with this trilogy. I do recomend the second trilogy tho

The whole first book should’ve been Vin’s journey into discovering her powers. At the end of the book she discovers she’s a Mistborn. That is a journey I want to explore and experience! Take the time to sit with the characters and grow with them! She learned too fast!

Though allomancy is common knowledge among the nobility, that doesn't mean the powers are common. I can't think of a reason that it would be common knowledge among the skaa due to their segregation. Pewter dragging did seem like an overused hand-wave. I remember scenes where guards had wooden armor without any metal. I think the reason that metal can't be pulled when inside the body is hemallurgy adjacent. Though Vin's killing of the Lord Ruler isn't adequately explained in book 1, it is in book 3.

@FrostSylph

6 ай бұрын

To be specific, metal when within the body is mixed with the investure of the person, and since investure repels it's resistant to allomancy. That means that it's only possible with a lot of power to overcome that resistance.

@blackdahliastudios263

5 ай бұрын

Can you further explain how Investiture repels? I'm having trouble reconciling that with the mechanics in Stormlight Archive. Also, Nightblood is super Invested, but he seems to attract Investiture most of the time...@@FrostSylph

@FrostSylph

5 ай бұрын

@@blackdahliastudios263 I was slightly mistaken, "repel" is the wrong term. It's more accurate to say that invested objects resist being affected by an invested art. As all humans have the spark of life they are naturally resistant to magic, although some overcomes this, although that can also be resisted by a human who's more invested, which can be overcome by a stronger magic etc. for example, soul casting humans while possible, is a lot harder than soul casting inanimate objects due to having to overcome that resistance. This is why burning copper makes you immune to emotional allomancy, as it makes you more invested and therefore resistant to the soother/rioter. Also notable is how Vin had to flare copper to even dampen the effects of the lord ruler soothing the crowd, because he's just that powerful. This also applies to objects. Shardplate and blades cannot be lashed, soulcast or cut by other shard blades because they are so strongly invested (they're made out of pure investure after all) that they resist it. Similarly, you could not allomantically push or pull Nightblood, because it's also an incredibly invested entity. Nightblood absorbing investure is part of its nature, as it has to absorb investure to stay awake and so it takes it from around it, whether that's the holder or the things it cuts.

@blackdahliastudios263

5 ай бұрын

Whoa! Has Nightblood fallen asleep?@@FrostSylph

thank you for representing my same, exact sentiment about this book. I adore your bravery. The Sanderfans will surely bash you but YT algo will work its magic. - sending hugs

@dlasis

5 ай бұрын

The unlimited repetition really killed my joy. I dont understand how anyone could enjoy verbosity.

I feel like most of the flaws is that the trilogy was was effectively written as 1 big story divided in 3 and it's also to be part of a greater franchise. The Final Empire as a standalone to me is kinda average, the trilogy as a whole is a masterpiece imho. I remember when I first read the trilogy back to back, I was underwhelmed with the 1st book given the reputation, but at some time in the 3rd book, a theory popped in my head and I was like "ooooooh, that would explain so much." In most series it's usually the stuff from before propping up what comes after. Like in most series, book 3 would be propped up by books 1 and 2. In most series book 1 may build thr foundations for future greatness, but it still need to stand on it's own. While its true lots of series gets retroactive propping up, it's usually to a lesser degree. Not so in Final Empire. The biggest flaws get "fixed" later. The Final Empire presents very much as a standalone novel with a sequel bait and treating it as a standalone it fails at certain things (the climax especially).

Did you like Kings of the Wyld?

@joyachill

4 ай бұрын

I thought it was pretty good! The opening was really strong, I vibed with the humour and although I personally felt that it might've worked better as a standalone, I mostly enjoyed it.

I like your review, and I generally agree with some of your points, especially about his awkward handling of inequality with the Terrismen and Ska, and Vin’s portrayal and relationships. I’m not exactly a huge Sanderson fan, but IMHO I think it’s a little bit of a lukewarm take to point out that his dated books from over a decade ago don’t really hold up for modern audiences, especially with the wealth of boundary-pushing and exciting fantasy currently arriving on the scene. I think Sanderson has put out some surprisingly good books since like Tress of the Emerald Sea, and he has shown some improvement in his ability to deliver on sensitive and nuanced topics such as gender and inequality. I get that many feel Sanderson’s older books have become the status quo and isn’t providing new interesting ideas like it used to. People are right to criticize it. But I’m still a little disappointed to see that judgement here.

@1treps197

6 ай бұрын

The Lord of The Rings are over 60 years ago and still holds up with modern audiences. Also, A Game of Thrones is over 2 decades ago and still holds up in every category. So not really an argument there on it being over a decade ago. In books, it doesn't matter to mention when the book is published, it's gonna be good then and now. Brandon Sanderson is like One Piece, they publish and make a shit ton of material, and there fans are blinded by it to even judge it. Maybe if Brandon Sanderson focused on one book, he could then write a decent book that doesn't drag 1200 pages which half of them are unneeded.

@cooperodom7747

6 ай бұрын

@@1treps197I don’t think game of thrones is fair to put there. Representation doesn’t have to matter Westeros is a tragic world where everyone sucks. Women get assaulted and men get castrated it’s not like we’re breaking boundaries of what gender roles are. Also not to be harsh but you sound bitter. One piece is considered by many as the best manga ever and you’re using the comparison to drag down something else people love and consider some of their favorite stuff? Why do that?

@1treps197

5 ай бұрын

@@cooperodom7747 So A Game of Thrones shouldn't be there because you are a soft baby? AGOT is one of the greatest pieces of fantasy released. One piece is considered one of the greatest by "many" not most, and not all. and even though, one piece is not the greatest anime or manga. When you have a story dragged to 1000 episodes with 90% of it filler, thats not the greatest anime or manga. And the fact if you start from episode 1010, you would basically know what happened in those 1000 episodes.

@ambivvvvvvvvvalence

5 ай бұрын

@@1treps197 You sound so miserable, you can like what you like without being so hateful about what others like, you can even disagree and critique them. Besides, Stormlight Archive is already better than anything Tolkien ever wrote. There's been 60 years of development in the genre, it's hardly a slight to the quality of Tolkien's writing to acknowledge there have been developments made in the genre in over half a century. Sanderson is currently the greatest living author of fantasy after all. Why is it so upsetting to you?

@1treps197

5 ай бұрын

I have read mistborn, didnt like it at all. I have read Skyward series, and the emperors soul and loved them. I think brandon sanderson is a good author just not the greatest living fantasy author when you have people like GRRM, Patrick Rothfuss, and Joe abercrombie. @@ambivvvvvvvvvalence

having read the full trilogy, you're so right. there are some points that are definitely explained in the next books, but like,,, they should've been explained in this book, or they shouldn't have been brought up yet. So much of the book relies on the next two in order to give it a leg to stand on, and that just makes for a really confusing narrative where it feels like half the time nothing is actually happening. and your point about padding is so real.

Thank you. I couldn't finish The Final Empire, I found it boring and the action sequences where the 'hard magic' system had to be described every time to be irritating, like someone narrating themselves playing a video game or something.

I love Mistborn Era 1, but The Hero of Ages is the best book.

You voiced all of the thoughts I had after I finished this book over a decade ago. Deux Ex magic on the final boss was the most disappointing thing. I tried to continue the series, but I just couldn't get into it after that. It's great to set up your trilogy, but for me each book has to be satisfying in its own right. I hate to finish a thicc book and think "what was it all for??"

@Trevorischillin

6 ай бұрын

The way Vin kills The Lord Ruler may seem kind of random and contrived but that's because you don't know certain things about Vin's character and why she is sometimes capable of incredible power and other times she is not. That incredible power Vin shows at the end of book 1 is a mystery that is hinted at and played with throughout the whole trilogy and pays off big time in the final book.

@heather9130

6 ай бұрын

@@Trevorischillin Yeah I understand that, and I know that works for a large part of Sanderson's audience. The Final Empire is where I learned that to read Sanderson, I had to be willing to commit to a series and not just the first novel. I love him as an author, but I think his writing style just isn't my taste. I'm very excited to read his Secret Projects though. I'm behind on my TBR. Thanks for explaining anyway. I'm not at all saying the Final Empire was bad. I just didn't really enjoy it :( I think I would have liked it more if I read it rather than listened to the audiobook. It felt very very long.

@Trevorischillin

6 ай бұрын

​@@heather9130yeah Brandons books are a commitment, but the secret projects are much more standalone than most of his other novels so you'll probably enjoy those more.... at least the first 3 are standalone. The Sunlit Man probably needs to be read after reading the first 4 books of Stormlight to really appreciate it.

@heather9130

6 ай бұрын

@@Trevorischillin Thanks for the info!

Commenting for the algorithm. Enjoyed the criticism of the praise of hard magic as inherently beneficial to fantasy storytelling

It's okay to not like a book, but there are several statements in your video that are literally false. Like explicitly stated in the book. And you just make shit up like nothing. If you disliked the final empire cool, but don't lie about things to put it down. The book has plenty of flaws, so if you disliked it talk about those instead of looking for fake "gotchas" that you made up

@animaker3627

5 ай бұрын

like what?

@lefishe6611

Ай бұрын

​@animaker3627 Allomancy being not rare among nobility

HA

Although I don’t agree with all the criticisms, I also found mistborn to have disappointing elements and I liked The Final Empire the most out of the entire trilogy. Many people give this series way too much credit.

Midborn?

Oh my god, thank you. I read the first two books and couldn't understand what all the hype was about. At best they read like a marvel movie (sure, the fight scenes are fun, but that doesn't make a good book). The characters are dull and one note, the prose is uninteresting (Sanderson's stubborn adherence to "simple" vocabulary makes it an easy read, sure, but a really mind numbing one) and the story itself is only mildly interesting (relies too much on big reveals and twists). The second book is even worse. I get why people like it but it's just not what I'm looking for in a story and I'm tired of people pretending it's a Solid Work of Fiction. That being said, I think Brandon legitimately has a talent for world-building and pacing. The tension and action sequences around the third act were gripping.

I feel like you can’t give an accurate review of the first book when you haven’t read the rest of the trilogy. Some authors write books in series that self contained and others write books that depend on the next book to continue expanding the world and build on the unanswered point from previous books. It sounds like a lot of your issues with the first book are things that get addressed in the next two books. I choose to keep reading the series because these unanswered things were interesting to me and I really liked the characters and plot of book 1. If you don’t plan on finishing the series that’s fine. i just think it’s weird that a lot of your complaints were about things that weren’t explained or expanded on in the first book and you decided that made the book bad. I’d understand if your gripes with the book actually weren’t answered at all then you could complain about them, but they were answered just not in this book. So you don’t really have credibility to speak on them. Wouldn’t have made sense to not pass judgement on those points and instead focus on things that actually resolved in the book. “There’s always another secret”

Even though many have already said this I will reiterate. The majority of complaints you have about the book are expanded upon and explained by the end of the third book. One thing that you said though struck me as though you maybe didn't remember how it played out or maybe were numb to it at that point because you weren't enjoying the book. The thing I mean is the plotline of Kelsier's brother (Marsh). They believe he is killed and he does come back, but he is most certainly not "fine" as you put it. The process of becoming a Steel Inquisitor (fantasy police) is not something that anyone would be "fine" afterward. He has metal spikes driven through both eyes and various other places of his body to the point where his physiology isn't even human anymore. I thought your complaints were justified, but most of them get more clarification in the next books. If you really didn't like it then don't read them, but I think that would be the best course of action if you want to read more Brandon Sanderson.

While I whole-heartedly disagree with you, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I understand that Sanderson isn't for everyone. I get that not everyone is into long worldbuilding and in-depth explanations of magic systems. However, I get frustrated when stories do very little to explain how their magic works. It makes magic often just feel like a MacGuffin. I also get that Sanderson isn't the best at writing prose, but I hate poetry and would prefer minimal flowery prose. If you're a person who loves prose and isn't really interested in dedicating chapters to worldbuilding and explanations of how magic works, Sanderson really won't be for you. However, for those of us who don't care about prose and want the world to be explained, Sanderson is top-notch.

the final empire is just okay for me, on the first read at least. Rereads significantly improve it, just because of the nature of the series, and the following two books are significantly better, with the Hero of Ages being one of my all time favourites and really the book where Sanderson enters his prime in my opinion. While I don't mean to lower the standards for authors, The Final Empire was unfinished when a publisher finally wanted to get something Sanderson wrote out there, specifically Mistborn, so he gave them Elantris instead to stall. It's possible that if he had written (and published) more outside of the cosmere before rushing to finish this first entry on Scadrial, it would've been significantly better and more complete. Also, just to address the "metal inside of you" criticism, the meta-reason behind it is pretty obvious; you literally have to put metal inside of you in order to use it, and you can't really have two types of mistings that are able to instantly kill all the others through rupturing the internal organs. Beyond that, it is not the actual millimeter of skin that protects the wearer of earrings from having them pushed, but more the fact that the object becomes a part of their cognitive "self". It is for this same reason that all allomantic blue lines are always describes as pointing towards the middle of a person's chest, rather than their center of mass. If someone asks you to point to yourself, you point inwards to your chest, not your waist or gut. All this is getting into the broader in-universe laws of physics and a fantasy adaptation of Plato's Theory of the Forms, which I won't immediately rant on without prompting, but the point is that whenever Sanderson has to make a new rule in order to make the story possible, it is never good to assume that it won't be explained or that it's just bullshit he decided to throw in. Also, you briefly bring up that sometimes people can break that rule, but anyone who can is either Compounding allomancy and feruchemy to increase their abilities, has been hemalurgically boosted to be beyond the power of a single coinshot, lurcher or mistborn, OR has had divine power funneled into them. Finally, I have to disagree with your characterization of Brandon's thoughts towards Kelsier. It's possible that some of what you described would be accurate in his early days of outlining this book, before he had even finished college. However, there are so many things that contradict the simplistic, almost idolizing view that you claim he writes Kelsier with. Almost all of Sanderson's characters are meant to be sort of Larger Than Life. He has made the comparison before that he kind of writes superheroes in a lot of ways. However, this never stops him from writing in significant flaws. I don't think you can find a chapter with kelsier in it when he's still alive where his crew members aren't calling him insane. While he is incessantly capable and meant to be very charming, he is also utterly untrustworthy in many ways. While everyone develops _faith_ in him, sometimes to a further extent than expected, no one besides Dockson and Marsh really act as though they know Kelsier well, or trust him to tell them his secrets and thoughts. Sanderson has, to date, written two Kelsier-viewpoint short stories that depict him as a fairly insecure, very traumatized man who doesn't know how to do anything but keep going. All this is enough for me to feel there is more nuance to his character, but if you are willing for extremely minor spoilers that haven't even meant anything yet in Stormlight, his other series, (and also some transitive spoilers based on assumptions you would have to make): The ghost of Kelsier (who very much doesn't want to be a ghost anymore) serves as an outside actor and a genuine villain in the side story of one of the main characters of Stormlight as the shadowy figure of Thaidakar. Brandon has said many times that Kelsier is capable of some pretty awful things, and that he is very unstable when it comes to morality and emotions. Even if Kelsier started off as a Jesus x Batman fusion dance fanfic (which I don't think is fair), then Sanderson has certainly gotten past that at this point.

thanks for the spoilers

I'm seriously concerned about how little you cared to even pay attention to this book

Super nitpicky made up issues that someone with better reading comprehension, who would have paid better attention to the book when reading it, would not have mistakenly claimed to be problems. Hope you're doing ok, this fabricating reasons to dislike a book stuff seems so unhealthy. Is it because it's widely known as a better book than one of your favourites? Are you just being a regular hipster hating the popular good thing? I don't know, but I know this review is poorly reasoned, poorly thought out and just generally really oddly framed.

@SignificantOwl

21 күн бұрын

Someone dared not like something you like, huh? That sure sounds tough. Better go be an absolutely deranged, pitiable lunatic on youtube about it. That'll sure prove to everyone how cool this low mid-tier book is.