LATEST - "Stop Calling The Army Woke, I Don’t Get It" (Sec of the Army) - kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z6mspsaJkrKnmtI.html. Is this perserving the Marine Corps Brand? USMC Social Experiment:Gender Integrated Combat Training - kzread.info/dash/bejne/X5h6lZiNgqq-k7A.html. And these type of recruits WONT Help Retention - kzread.info/dash/bejne/mJaL14-siJafkbg.html.

@GoodTalkHQ

Жыл бұрын

ty brother, god bless

@youknowme8578

Жыл бұрын

Why no mention of the jab and those leaving because they wouldn't do it? 20 thousand more getting out at the end of October.

@heyboss3433

Жыл бұрын

Vaccines a big one.

@dougtheeliminator1077

Жыл бұрын

The one guy is a joke. He doesn't hate the Marine Corps as he claims, he just hates anything and everything about it.

@thispersonrighthere9024

Жыл бұрын

as a person of color, i have half the people in this country telling me to hate my white friends because of "the white patriarchy/supremacy", and the other half telling me to "stop playing victim" whenever i talk about racism and discrimination. i also have people telling me my masculinity is "toxic" and employers telling me i'm "lazy and entitled" because i don't want to work overtime for free. and these are the people i'm supposed to join the military to defend?! *nope!!!*

The whole “being treated like a child” and “asking another grown man if I can go home see my family” is so accurate

@markschneider8103

Жыл бұрын

Military life is what it is. It’s for some folks, and not for others. Each of us has our first tour of duty to decide. Is this what I want or not. If folks do 3 or 4 years and decide it’s not for them, and get out, God Bless em. If others decide they like it and want a career, God Bless em ! Should be no hard feelings either way !

@germanstudent06

Жыл бұрын

@@markschneider8103 Well put, Mark

@Mr.A.J.1

Жыл бұрын

@@markschneider8103 nah man we all know there be some bullshit on some units that shouldn’t be a thing, unless u one of those who likes kissing ass, have u been to Okinawa? Come on

@markschneider8103

Жыл бұрын

@@Mr.A.J.1 Bro there is BS in any career. I guess we all pick the BS that we’re willing to put up with. 5 years on the Rock 77-78, 82-83, 87-88, 91-93. One of my favorite places on the planet. Semper Fi Devil Dog

@rolandobaluja7504

Жыл бұрын

@@markschneider8103 you're entitled to your opinion and although it is true that in the military is not the only place an individuals going to run into dealing with BS and dealing with the dog and pony show. What is important for the military to look at is to assess and see what they can do to strengthen retain and empower. If they can Implement positive changes cool by all means go for it

This Sergeant Major is the definition of a human power point.

@Taffer-bx7uc

Жыл бұрын

lol

@piggynatorcool668

Жыл бұрын

you did not

@Martin-117

Жыл бұрын

All Generals and their SgtMajs are basically politicians in uniform.

@TattsnGuns

Жыл бұрын

Truth

@alkaliwreck2474

Жыл бұрын

Who needs talking points when you are rhetoric incarnate?

USMC thinks higher PT scores makes a man worthy of leadership. It's the character not the piece of paper they have.

@user-zj9md9xd5l

Ай бұрын

Leadership didn't mature in any way other than becoming more toxic. This Sgt Major is out of touch. His time politicking in DC and puckering up to the brass has left him in a position that he has no idea what the enlisted entrusted to his care are experiencing. When they bring it up, they're ignored.

@HELDENHAFTSCAR

13 күн бұрын

Had a 300 PFT and was forced out do to changed service limitations in 2014.

The two happiest days of a marine's life: The day he gets in and the day he gets out...

@Agent1W

Жыл бұрын

The same as having a boat?

@alexander1902

9 ай бұрын

@@Agent1Wthat’s the joke.

@brucelombardo

9 ай бұрын

Sounds like jail from The Wire. “You only serve two days in jail; the day you go in, and the day you get out.”

@user-nj1jk8ic4t

9 ай бұрын

that sounds more like a boat owner

@baileyfrazier2635

8 ай бұрын

True!

Joining the military was one of the best decisions I ever made, so was getting out.

@oclowdz7774

Жыл бұрын

Feel that

@edgarrodriguez2764

Жыл бұрын

That seems to be the case a lot

@kujojack6510

Жыл бұрын

Very true for many

@RamadiTaxiDriver60M

Жыл бұрын

Truth!

@justinhackstadt6677

Жыл бұрын

99' Medical Discharge I probably survived because I didn't go to the Middle East after 9/11. I only know of one guy I knew that came back from it. The Grinder to the wood chipper. 🤦‍♂️

I was a lifer for about a year. I came to realize I had absolutely zero power over myself and I was stuck in a contract. Doesn't matter the terrible leadership, the hypocrisy, the favoritism, you're now stuck. If you complain too loud one person can make your life hell. You're completely at the mercy of other people and you can only hope their character is decent. I've heard the "you're going to have to put up with stupidity in the real world too" argument. Yeah but I still disagree. I've been out for 18 years and haven't once regretted it. The difference is, in the civilian world I can tell my boss he's an idiot and quit. I'm not legally required to put up with favoritism, hypocrisy, incompetence, "punishment", and so on.

@TheBatugan77

Жыл бұрын

You can't just quit any job any time you want. Well maybe a deadbeat can. You sound like a whiny candyass.

@mclimitless

Жыл бұрын

Facts

@tabo01

Жыл бұрын

During the Viet Nam war, a lot of black soldiers wore bracelets made of boot laces woven to look like chains, as the last slavery.

@KoolT

Жыл бұрын

My dad and brother are jarheads but my brothers DI broke 2 privates backs in bootcamp so he was busted down. Broke their backs. But my dad a WW2 MARINE Was different type of jarhead.

@MadMike2000

Жыл бұрын

That type of leadership turns into "accidental" friendly fire in battle.

When I worked for the VA i heard that story a lot...a lot of these young guys felt like they where used and abused then discarded like they were nothing.

@chuckwoste2875

Жыл бұрын

Just a guess that your clientele had a bit different take than prior service dudes hammering down beers at the golf course because the Corps equipped them to become successful in their chosen careers.

@kevz2474

Жыл бұрын

@@chuckwoste2875 They probably worked injury free jobs. Were probably officers.

@DracoReptoidsExposed

Жыл бұрын

Only join if you're young, dumb and full of come.

@user-nj1jk8ic4t

9 ай бұрын

well it is todays world welcome to wonderful world of hell!

@semiwandering295

8 ай бұрын

That's exactly per word the truth... if you get leaders that are stupid and kiss ass.. They can be as stupid as a leader as they want, and nothing will happen to them... If you're young and not taught to be a leader properly, then you end up with the toxic leadership.

The Marine Corps gifted me with a relentless mindset, great lifelong friends and the opportunity to visit places I would’ve never gone to and title I proudly claim. I gave them my time and effort, I may have only did 4 years but I can live with that. Bad leadership was in fact a large contributing factor to me saying goodbye to active duty.

I explain to my civilian friends that being in the Marine Corps is like being in a toxic relationship. I love the Marine Corps and being a Marine, but unfortunately, the Marine Corps doesn't love you back.

@largetableproductions1578

Жыл бұрын

I think most Marines feel that. It’s more like you love you’re brother and sisters in with you but everything els is ass.

@truthasareligion9472

Жыл бұрын

IT IS RAN BY RIGHT WING CHRISTOFASCIST BOOTLICKERS. IT DOESNT KNOW HOW TO LOVE ANYTHING BUT THE PURSUIT OF POWER.

@yemx4683

Жыл бұрын

Yep

@michaelbryant5737

Жыл бұрын

It explains how I feel years after I got out. I miss the Clowns. But I don't miss the Circus. I have friends from when I was in that I still talk to most every day. And there's some shitbag blue falcons I was in with that I wouldn't even tap the brakes on my car if they walked out in front of me on the highway.

@carterrk

Жыл бұрын

100%. I would do just about anything for my fellow brothers, but the institution lost its way. It is a bigger issue than just the Corps too, as this has been going on for just about as long as the Corps has been around. "War is A Rackett" says it all.

My last 2 years in the Marines: Requested to go to MCMAP Instructor Trainer course: No Requested a lat move to aircrew (already winged A/O): No Requested a B billet (any of them): Nope Requested an IA billet to deploy: Not gonna happen Requested my next duty station be west coast since my ex got orders to Hawaii: Sorry about your luck, not gonna happen 7 years active duty, meritorious Cpl and Sgt, PME complete (distance and resident), NCOIC of two shops and qualified A/O, 1st class CFT/PFT, expert rifle/pistol, etc... Meanwhile, Sgt's that look like a beach ball wearing childrens uniforms get promoted. They don't want good Marines. They want to only hear yes and the sound of slurping...

@joejett5084

Жыл бұрын

Yes, gawk, gawk, gawk, gawk

@lamadesurvivor5216

Жыл бұрын

It’s like that in the army too.

@rolandobaluja7504

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately that does not just apply to the military it also applies quite a bit to the civilian world where Optics often takes more presidents over subst ance and the dog important show tends to prevail.

@DanteRiley

Жыл бұрын

IYAOYAS

@rolandobaluja7504

Жыл бұрын

@@DanteRiley a pathetic slogan perpetuated by individuals that lack ability to grow

90% of the problems in the Marine corps stem from bad leadership at both the NCO and officer level. The concept of officers has needed a massive overhaul for decades but nobody wants to upset the Apple cart. It used to be that going to college meant you were significantly smarter than your fellow Marines. Now it just means you are 4 years older than the average boot but with about the same knowledge base. I’ve watched a 24y/o 1st Lt try to explain how the real world is to a 27y/o Cpl who joined later in life…ironically who had a bachelors degree himself and was working on his masters. What’s worse is the environment where officers feel they can never be wrong and cover for each others mistakes rather than owning their mistake and moving forward. You aren’t fooling anyone except the lowest common denominator and you are alienating your “smart” Marines. At the NCO level you see far too often the competent get passed over for the command favorites and then the few good leaders who make it become jaded and leave so you are left with mostly bad leaders with a small sprinkling of good leaders who still think they can change the corps for the better. Another pair of anecdotes. A true genius of a leader, also the command favorite. Worked his ass off and was meritoriously promoted all the way to Sgt. Made SSgt in under 5 years. As soon as his first contract was up (5year contract) he left the service because he was tired of dealing with the bullshit. The other example is a Sgt who picked up in his first 4 years. Extended in country to provide support to a specific mission. After a week of night operations where he barely slept so he could provide insight into the planning stages and go on every raid, his dummy cord on his pistol broke and the pistol fell out during an evac from the last raid of the night. His Lt offered him NJP and reduction of rank but he could stay in country with his team or he could choose to fight the charge and return home. He chose NJP to stay with his team. So the Lt NJP’d him took his rank and then shipped him Home still. Why? Because the Lt. made a mistake by over using this guy to the point of exhaustion but couldn’t take responsibility for driving him too hard. When the now Cpl returned home he was within 6 months of EAS. His Company commander and eventually even the battalion commander tried to get him to reenlist; promising to promote again as soon as possible. He told them both where to go. Biggest reason, bar none, for why good Marines leave the service is because commands are incompetent at best, malicious at worst.

@B70707

Жыл бұрын

BAD "leadership" starts with an incompetent, criminal as Commander-in-Chief

@KoolT

Жыл бұрын

Yep.

@juliosantana1646

10 ай бұрын

This is it.

@richardnguyen1520

10 ай бұрын

​@@KoolTNot necessarily wrong about the dynamics, but the thing is, it has always been this way for the 225 years the Marines have been around. It's nothing new. So why more problems now?

@thylacinepunic5582

9 ай бұрын

⁠@@richardnguyen1520 better insight into the workings of the military from the outside looking in most likely

Every day in the Marine Corps was just an exercise to try not to get into trouble.

Being told to apply for food Stamps, after waiting for base housing, then seeing toxic leaders being promoted over war hardened veterans or standing through a extremist training. I don’t regret enlistment being deployed, but I’m not exactly sad to be medically retired.

@slice6027

Жыл бұрын

Friends politics man, friends politics.

@usafret4709

Жыл бұрын

I knew airmen that were on food stamps in 89. It is no different. I actually qualified and had another airman tell me I should apply. I was an E-4 and my wife stayed home with the kids. Lived in base housing. I went to the office and saw the folks that were applying and said to myself, "We are not that bad off." My wife was a wonder woman at stretching a dollar. The kids were more important to her than a job outside the home.

@thodan467

Жыл бұрын

General von Seeckt did not recruit the Officer corps of the Reichswehr on the measure of war hardened, that does not necessarily include the abilities you need for a good leader

@stephenschenider4007

Жыл бұрын

I left in 2010 because of deployments and non sensical training/dog and pony show bullshit. But mostly deployments. I was airborne infantry active duty. The money gets quite good after E-5. Not sure why people are bitching about the money. Benefits and time off are actually great.

@pmcgns10

Жыл бұрын

I feel this heavily!!

Mass punishment led me to start committing the "crimes" because I was going to get punished for it anyways. Being treated like a child left led me to become numb to people's rank. Asking for authority to wipe my ass led me to audibly laugh at peoples talking points. The low pay and slow promotion led me to earn 6x the pay of what the O-6 leading the unit earned that year was paid due to teaching myself how to invest. Watching a staff NCO not receive punishment for a DUI and a lower enlisted get knocked down for the same offence taught me a lot about the real world at age 20. Listening to wookies get plowed by senior NCOs and get promoted faster than someone with near perfect promotion criteria led me to distrust female coworkers competence. Listening to my leadership say "we're family" or "we're brothers" while I witnessed a "brother" blow the back out of another "brothers" wife led me to believe that we are, in fact, not family.

@jaysonshelley8040

Жыл бұрын

Real talk🤝

@kajuanhurn

Жыл бұрын

Don’t get it wrong your real brother would probably do the same. Or sister

@briandunn3919

Жыл бұрын

Preach brother preach! This is truth! Marine Corps doesn't want to hear the truth on what the real Marines putting in the grind really think. SNCO's and Officer only caring about how they are viewed for their fitreps for their advancement. I couldn't stand those higher ranks that always had a rebuttal or solution to a problem but it was always so unrealistic. I.E. Ssgt: Why you 2 minutes late I could write you up for being UA Devil Dog? LCpl: Traffic accident caused traffic to back up SSgt. Ssgt: Well Devil Dog then you should've left earlier so youd get here 15 minutes early. LCpl: I did SSgt. Ssgt: Then you should've left to be here 30 minutes early to account for a traffic jam.

@mysterywhiskey1563

Жыл бұрын

Thats another reason why females should not be on military bases or be allowed in

@user-lj2cb2pj8j

Жыл бұрын

Damn dude, 💯

That Sergeant Major sure loves to hear the sound of his own voice. Bless his sweet heart 😚

My sons grew up as Army brats. They were very gungho to try the Marines. And they thrived the first few years. But they got tired of NCOs who did not care to let them achieve their professional and educational goals, even when they did not conflict with unit missions and needs in any way. They were both very proud to have served in the Corps, and very happy to have gotten out. With a little better cooperation and encouragement, they could have made a career in the Corps.

I tried joining the Marine Corps 3 times but was denied because I had “too much” tattoos. I joined the Army instead, became an Infantryman and now an Apache Pilot.

@scuba7236

Жыл бұрын

How long from when you started until you became a Pilot?

@ADRIAN-pe1ce

Жыл бұрын

Crazy that marines can have sleeves now…. Consider that a blessing in disguises

@yuukimasamura5143

Жыл бұрын

@@scuba7236 you need to have a university degree to be an officer and be an officer to be a pilot, so it would have taken a while

@germanstudent06

Жыл бұрын

@@yuukimasamura5143 This story has more holes than a Scandinavian adult film, just a bot imo

@willietyler4796

Жыл бұрын

The reason Marines are getting out is when Sailors take a dump, Marines come out. The Navy gets most of the funding and Marines get peanuts.

I served between 2017 to 2022 and I wanted to do 20-30 years. Meritoriously promoted twice, received Marine Of The Year 2019, career average Pros and Cons of 4.6/4.6. I got out Honorably as a Sergeant. I got tired of being mistreated, misused, and tired of being treated like a child despite my accomplishments because other Marines couldn't conduct themselves as such. I always wanted to be the poster Marine, what other Marines wanted to emulate. After encountering absolutely terrible leadership 95% of the time and toxic leadership that would punish improvement, I cut my ties. Everything I learned about the Marine Corps was a lie. All of it degraded into nothing because of old Marines ruining it for all the new Marines. I did everything I could for my Marines before getting the hell out of there.

@darthconquest1046

Жыл бұрын

I wish I could have had a Sergeant like you. I got out as a Corporal. I had a Staff Sergeant give me 3.9/3.9 pros and cons when my Master Gunz went on vacation and all the officers turned over one summer. I didn't even know how bad the Staff Sergeant screwed me until I saw my pros and cons after he left the unit.

@jimmyjohnjuan

Жыл бұрын

@@darthconquest1046 I never Served so forgive me for not know, but is the pro/con a rating or something?

@CJ2808

Жыл бұрын

@@jimmyjohnjuan proficiency and conduct grading. Every 3 or 4 months youd get a pro/con counseling with your scores. Sometimes it gets hidden like this though

@darthconquest1046

Жыл бұрын

@@jimmyjohnjuan yes. Pros and cons in the Marines are proficiency and conduct marks. 3.9 was the lowest score you can give without documentation.

@fastingislife3766

Жыл бұрын

You found out that the same people who lied to the native Americans would lie to you too? 👀🤣😂🤣😂

My oldest son just retired with 20 years.He is a physical wreck, my baby son was not allowed to reenlist at 11 years after he extended for extra time in Afghanistan, and my baby boys wife was med released after 4 years. Still proud of them.

@HalcyonDaze33

5 ай бұрын

Sorry for how they were treated, man. Hope they recover.

My dad was a tunnel rat in Korea. The army later denied benefits for years . He would have done anything he could to keep me from service. 880bil $ a year . & We have private citizen orgz.taking care of the vets who need a leg. Applaudable & yet heartbreaking at the same time.

Number 1 reason to keep me in the USMC. Hold officers accountable for their screwups like the Afghanistan pullout.

@jamessephar9458

Жыл бұрын

There were 2,000 troops left in Afghanistan. Demented Joe decided to pull out with hardly any notice. Blame him.

@DaTriggaFinger

Жыл бұрын

Hes not the one making the decisions. Hes letting his cabinet and military advisors decide

@silenttiger8046

Жыл бұрын

Accountability will never happen until we can get the politicians playing military dress up out of our military. At this point there is almost no difference between military life and civilian life. A military force can not function with a civilian mindset.

@mikloridden8276

Жыл бұрын

@@jamessephar9458 I hate how people try to tack it onto him, the public has always wanted the US out of there and you had republicans whining about Joe going to start another Middle East war but he did the opposite. Remember the hippies crying about being us being there? They were real quiet when we left and some of them flipped their views instantly and wanted us back there. This is on the public

@kristaschulz9276

Жыл бұрын

You can blame Biden for all that. Just look at all the military aircraft that were full of Afghanie's heading to America and not the Americans.

The US military needs to stop trying to be 'up to date' with whatever else is going on in the world.

@JamesonsTravels

Жыл бұрын

retaining good troops is the strongest attribute of any military long term

@christophercooper5133

Жыл бұрын

Soooo fucking true

@dadshaw8960

Жыл бұрын

I’m sure the world is just holding back the marine corps

@tommygunn6901

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely true!

@rvail136

Жыл бұрын

USMC's going Woke and the troops don't like it.

As a former Marine, the worst and saddest part of the Corps is that if 1 staff NCO doesn't care or like a certain Marine, especially 1st contract ones. Then all the staff will do what they can to shitbird that Marine and destroy any chance of them wanting to make a career. Getting out hopefully with at least a general discharge is all they can hope for. Very very sad.

i remember asking a buddy of mine a while back why did he get out. i mean the guy put 8 years in, saw 5 deployments during the iraq afghanistan conflicts, made it to E6. and i remember him saying, "its very simple, while i was in there didn't matter how much you broke your back and went beyond your duty, you were just a number and seniority was the highest priority. also the whole ranking up felt very biased. It didn't matter what you know or how well you did your job, if your co's didn't "vouch" for you, then you were gonna get your promotions slow-walked."

I did one enlistment from 2017-2021. There were a lot of reasons to get out, but the one that stuck with me the most was our leadership. In my experience, it became very apparent that if Daddy Sgt Major didn't like you, then he was going to do everything in his power to ruin your career. I was stationed with a small and unusual unit, so interactions with high level enlisted were unavoidable. Now that I think about it, it is unbelievably fucked how our "leadership" tried to ruin us. It was literally a bunch of 35-40 year olds just walking over 18-24 year olds because they could.

@petehoeft6518

Жыл бұрын

I’ll say I’ll agree with this because I’ve seen it happen.

@umamifan

Жыл бұрын

It happens anywhere and it is honestly disgusting. Imagine some crooked guy at the top who could ruin your career prospects just because he feels like it. And to not have any recourse whatsoever. Meanwhile, everyone they like gets kickbacks and more.

@baluskin1420

Жыл бұрын

It twists my brain up now at 43 years old that the senior NCOs that gave me hell at 18,19,20 were younger than I am today, whole lot of ignorant people

@reversi_dovah4995

Жыл бұрын

@@baluskin1420 Dog, I was a 24 year old being told I wasn't allowed to drink coffee because "only SNCOs rated it." It is mind boggling how childish most seniors are.

@baluskin1420

Жыл бұрын

@@reversi_dovah4995 I'm not surprised, I served under some quality douchebags as well

The waste of time is what got me... I was in the Navy for 4 years and got out in 2019. When I first got to my ship I really liked it, I really felt like a sailor pulling the lines, dropping the anchor, doing well deck ops with the Marines and their amphibious vehicles. The Captain of our ship would constantly walk the ship during working hours to every department, ask how we all are doing, and move about his day. Your job is finished and there's nothing left to do? enjoy your time off with your family because we are going underway for a month next Friday which is preparing us to be on DEPLOYMENT for 8 months. This man retired as an 06, and the moment he left it continuously got worse. Sweeping compartments that weren't dirty for HOURS, rules that didn't make sense and weren't necessary purely in the name of "because I said so". Toxic leadership ruined the military for me, and it was always due to a leader who were busy chasing a star or an anchor to add to their rank rather than being there FOR and WITH the junior sailors who made this warship set sail. I'll never forget the time I was on duty (6 sections.) on Christmas eve, sweeping the pier in the rain.....

@eligreg99

Жыл бұрын

I use to joke about having to sweep in the rain. It makes me depressed to hear that was your reality.

@darkedge117

Жыл бұрын

@@eligreg99 I had to mop in the rain, direct orders from my SECO lol. I am glad I left.

@connergalles7106

Жыл бұрын

I want to join but is it that hopeless?

@Daveyjones13551

Жыл бұрын

Dog I can remember if it was the greenbay or the Ashland but they tried to have us clean the ship like that with y’all my plt Sgt was like naw that stupid as hell

@TheDxbrown

Жыл бұрын

Sweeping in the rain is funny AF! 😂

The SgtMajor did not want to say what was really on his mind pertaining to the commandant.

As my old Sgt Major once said the Marine Corps wants young single men to join up give their all and then send em back home. It is pretty rare for someone to reenlist let alone become a lifer. There is a reason why it is the youngest force and the cut off to join is 28

Left the Marines in 2017, was my dream to be a Marine since 6th grade. Pushed myself 110% everyday. Black Belt MAI, MCIWS, RSO, and color guard. No matter how hard I tried though the command never changed. I was thrown under the bus by every level of my command. My gunny, my MSG, my Capt, and the SgtMaj. The mentality of Marine command has always been turn and burn. Who cares what the NCOs or lower enlisted want. There gonna be gone in a few years anyways (actual words I heard from a officer). It’s just now that they can’t recruit like they use to that they actually give a damn about retention. Notice how they will always blame everything but leadership. “Ohhh it’s cause they want more freedom, Ohh it’s cause of the living conditions or the food or the not being able to see their family” they always blame everything EXCEPT the toxic leadership. That is why nothing has changed in the last 30 years. Also the word is out and it’s well known that USMC recruiters are straight lying to kids. I’d say about 70% of Marines I met in the Corps were doing a MOS they didn’t pick. Finding out that your recruiter (the first Marine most people meet) was a liar. Starts you off on the wrong foot with the corps.

@scotfarnwalt911

Жыл бұрын

Most of the things I was told while being recruited was a lie.

@everythingsalright1121

Жыл бұрын

Recruiters are scumbags. Unless you go with someone who knows what is bullshit or what isnt the recruiter will just spew lies to entice you in. Its worse now because of the personnel shortages and low faith in the armed forces. They will just shove you into whichever job needs filling because theyre so behind on numbers

@tcmcclure2323

Жыл бұрын

312?

@ffoorrdd4

Жыл бұрын

Corps

@cm-pr2ys

Жыл бұрын

Yup my recruiter lied to me too

I had my twin sister die in car accident. My 1SG acted like I was lying, told me that I had X days, if I was a minute late he would charge me. I never had any issues in the Marines. I earned E5 in 4 years. Anyway, when I got back from burying my twin, he asks me "how was your vacation?". That was when I decided to leave. I was on the fence but saw I was just a number.

@castlebarron1788

Жыл бұрын

Should have reported him to the IG for that comment

@candicebrunson9131

Жыл бұрын

I'm a twin and I cannot imagine how hard that was for you to lose yours. Sorry they treated you that way after such a tragic loss.

@thodan467

Жыл бұрын

@@castlebarron1788 He should have been dishonorably discharged for that

@AntZ49570

Жыл бұрын

Condolences to your twin brother. Let God guide you in life. Take care and God bless.

@kaijudude_

Жыл бұрын

@@castlebarron1788 Easier said than done. I'm in the Navy and have seen Sailors in similar situations and they reported the toxic leadership only to get reprisal against them.

I was in from 88-92 so maybe things have changed: 1. Living conditions sucked. Our barracks in Okinawa didn't even have a/c. The line just to use a pay phone could be as long as 2 hours. 2. Food sucked 3. Poor leadership. i.e. people who are way dumber than me telling me what to do. Being told to take initiative and when I did, I got told to just do what I'm told. 4. Coming back from deployment and finding everybody that stayed behind getting promoted because there was no one else to stand boards. 5. Low pay. 6. I have a lot more but I'll leave it there.

The thing that pissed me off the most was wanting to take time off but never being allowed to and all we were doing was sitting around doing nothing and playing videogames.

My SSgt would tell me that we were all going to stay late because he had nothing to do at home. No exaggeration. No one can challenge people in charge making these decisions without ruining your career. They don't treat you like a team member until punishment becomes a thing.

@Agent1W

Жыл бұрын

A lot of people overwork because they have nothing to do at home. That's everywhere now.

@Agent1W

9 ай бұрын

@@Player19961 Depending on who you ask, some feel the need to be AWAY just as much as their spouses need them around!

@cool_cat007smoove3

9 ай бұрын

Really?!😮 He told himself if I'm alonly you guys are going to keep me company, if you like it or not.

@EatDatBitchAwp

8 ай бұрын

@@Agent1Wthis is such a dumb response🤣

@Agent1W

8 ай бұрын

@@EatDatBitchAwp The truth is that dumb!

I chose to punch out and retire at 20 years of service (Camp Pendleton) because I saw the direction the Corps was going and the politics of it all. The wokeness of the military and poor leadership only interested in statistics instead of the individual Marine. The Marine Corps failed to evolve. They don't give young Marines second chances anymore. They love to ruin young Marine's careers only after one offense. Young kids make mistakes. The barracks is worse than a college dorm. Give young Marines a choice. Treat single marine's like adults.

@jasonwilliams4159

Жыл бұрын

You said single marines. Do they treat married marines differently?

@systemsevil1

Жыл бұрын

I just sat on an AD SEP board for a young PFC who was busted down for taking shrooms. All 3 members of the board voted to retain. I think you are right it is an issue that some leaders only care about themselves and statistics, but not all. After 16 years in, I think the issue is there are still people in who have a mindset from back in Iraq days (01-06, etc.) Times have changed, and with the way recruiting efforts are failing across the board, leaders need to adjust, the problem is they dont want to.

@treebeardtheent2200

Жыл бұрын

@@systemsevil1 Good leadership is a set thing. Sound judgement and warrior mindset is not one thing 50 or 20 years ago from today. The changes, such as the woke BS and the lowering of standards ARE the problem, not failure to lower everything to a gutter standard.

@treebeardtheent2200

Жыл бұрын

Some good points Thio. The Marine Corps lost the war against the zero-defect mentality which is really not even an accurate way to put it. Warrior qualities are often not quantifiable and those have not been given their due. Optics and careerism have been the silly criteria for retention, but such things are not true excellence where it matters: readiness for combat. I myself know what it's like to get the short end of the stick by prioritizing mission and men leaving virtually nothing toward self-interest. Eight promotions and 13+ years of honorable service everyday was not enough. Nevertheless, I had quality experiences most of the time, and I dodged some bullets of the kind that hit others like LtCol Schecter. The formula for success isn't even complicated. It's older than the first firearm. It takes leaders of warriors who care less for themselves than for victory in battle, the welfare of their men, and the freedom of their nation. But those kind of leaders don't make good 'yes-men' and thus are not very much welcome, not at the higher levels anyway, a few of them to catch the worst flak are tolerated in the trenches is about all, ar least where I saw it.

@Lobos222

Жыл бұрын

The irony is that the real issue in the military is that it is TOO conservative. Why do you think they are not keeping up with the times... You dont like it so you call it "wookeness" to have it fit with your own ideals. You really think very liberal societies have military like what you call "wookness" in US context...

When our son was at Pendleton (2017), he carried a 120 lb pack. As a radioman he had a 10 lb radio plus 2 each 4 lb batteries (from the 90s). Each guy in his squad also had to carry 2 batteries became the radio was so old and heavy. In. SOI, they were only served spaghetti, hamburgers and hot dogs for 13 weeks. He was spending his pay at the food trucks because the chow was so awful.

Hard to justify supporting and fighting for an administration that doesn’t support you.

I'll never forget when my 1st Sgt. got mad at me because I wanted to get out because of all the BS. Around a week later he told me that the only reason he re enlisted was because he purchased a bunch of things he couldn't pay for if he got out.

@nehuenbec

Жыл бұрын

but did you end up leaving?

@LarzFates

Жыл бұрын

@@nehuenbec yes, yes I did

@ecuadorhaszeroboxers2356

9 ай бұрын

@@LarzFatesHow much did they pay you?

@lukeskywalker650

9 ай бұрын

Oh ya he sounds like a really smart guy! Thank God you left that BS

I recently got out of the navy, and it was honestly just the poor leadership. I agree with the marine who got out; just wanting to be a normal person and not have to answer to another adult who treats others like children.

@JamesonsTravels

Жыл бұрын

change leadership to who is good not who jumped through ocs hoops. i hear leadership has gotten more focused on their success rather than the young marines success.

@brandonallmon

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I enjoyed parts of the military. Definitely not for everyone, but I’m not surprised that all of the branches are suffering with retention. The navy is offering recently separated sailors thousands of dollars to stay in or come back. I was in an exped squadron, so life was good. Still not worth staying in.

@jamessephar9458

Жыл бұрын

Poor you. I'd love to hear their side of the story.

@brandonallmon

Жыл бұрын

@@jamessephar9458 Poor me? I never got into trouble. I got out honorably and had a well enough experience. I was speaking generally. The leadership above your immediate supervisors w/ the exception of select COs don’t care about personnel.

@WyoHighlanderDef

Жыл бұрын

@@JamesonsTravels that is painfully true. Got out in 13 and I could not stand seeing good Marines get fucked because of it.

We had to go out and do PT in the mud because someone got a dwi, our First Sergeant was furious when he came and saw us actually having fun with it

I remember a some high points while serving in the Marine Corps and I learned to laugh at some of the low points but it took a while for that.

I joined single, then got married and had 1 kid and another on the way. Wife put her personal goals on hold while I was in. It’s difficult being e1-e-4 and being married with kids. Not impossible just more difficult. I could see the toll it was taking. I was more focused on my job than my family because you don’t have a choice. You don’t get to decide when you go into work, what time you leave, all the time you are away from them. My breaking point was getting home from a long day, wife goes out to the gym and I’m giving my 1 year old a night bath, get recalled to the barracks for a all hands issue that had nothing to with me. Knew it wasn’t worth staying in if it would hurt my relationship with my wife and kids

@hiroshi1046

Жыл бұрын

You’re a true man. A lot of frivolous marriages develops in the military and I’m glad you seem dedicated to yours. There are better ways to support your family and your country at the same time.

@mattf2146

Жыл бұрын

We must've seen a 75% divorce rate in my unit amongst guys who were E1-E4. Woman get tired of their husband being gone 24/7. If we weren't deployed, guys still wouldn't be around their families much because we'd be training or be forced to hang around the motor pool for hours on end doing nothing. Kudos to you and your wife for making it work, she's a strong woman!

@TheBatugan77

Жыл бұрын

You decided to be an E1-E4 with a wife and kids. There are trade offs with every walk of life.

@SCPIsATDKVictim

Жыл бұрын

@@TheBatugan77 still shouldn’t be like that, why join the military when you have to make trade offs like that when civilian employers are more accommodating to such situations

@mattf2146

Жыл бұрын

​@@TheBatugan77 But we DESPERATELY NEED E1-E4 volunteers in our armed forces. With retention and recruitment rates at historic lows, we need to be doing all that we can to encourage young mothers and fathers to join the military.

I got out in 2019, I love the Marine Corps due to its history of doing the impossible, and true definition of brotherhood. However, my squadron killed my dream of staying in due to its hypocrisy, favoritism, lack of basic common sense, double standards, and now how we need to change to “be approved” by the world. The Marine Corps doesn’t need to change its military mindset to “be approved” by soft people. It needs to change military mindset on “if the enemy is adapting, we need adapt even fast, get stronger, and what to expect if Plan A, B and C doesn’t work”

@JamesonsTravels

Жыл бұрын

SO many solid, life changing take aways for a young man who opens his eyes. even on pump.

@xxae-chaaxx3445

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@Blktxdom2004

Жыл бұрын

Got out in 1992…on the heels of Desert Storm. What they discussed is on-point. When I lost my mother February 14, 1992, the frustration of staying in and my family issues clashed. I fought the hardship discharge, as I was misinformed about it being other than honorable. I returned to finish my duty and got in the crosshairs of the Sergeant Major. When I got offered the early release, I took my terminal leave and applied it to get out. Three decades later, I got my Master’s degree and am working on my second.

@joshuacoomer4955

Жыл бұрын

pretty much sums it up

@4strokes

Жыл бұрын

How well does using your logic of not changing what you do work out in battle?

Nailed it! Leadership needs to be addressed ASAP! People who should cannot lead, should not be put in leadership roles.

The military has taken on a corporation approach, and that model doesn't present pride in retention. When you people feel replaceable by those higher-ups, it shows in retention.

- Mass punishment - Unequal standards for fitness tests - Being told we staying late due to xyz - Recruting/ Drill instructors having no lives (could be improved) - Unstable hours (deployments are exceptions) - Toxic leadership - Being treated like a child

@tiffanygrever8092

Жыл бұрын

My son's recruiter worked seven days a week with very little brake after he got my son and a few other signed he got promoted but that just ment more responsibility.

@bikelifepov9617

Жыл бұрын

Define toxic

I got out the marine corps after 5 yrs. Meritoriously promoted twice, became a black belt MCIPAC instructor, range coach, and crossed trained into another mos. I remember just not being appreciated and constantly s**t on. Even with my overseas experience I still got treated poorly. I know marines rip on each other but it comes from a good place, what my leadership was doing was not from a good place. I don’t know if it was because I made them look bad or what? But, when my intelligence was questioned because I was open to the idea of college I decided it was enough. Sad it ended that way but I loved being a sergeant and training guiding my marines. Many still talk to me.

@JamesonsTravels

Жыл бұрын

see men like yourself should be kept in by every means possible. treated well to get to reenlist. letting you go is a stupid move for the mission.

@michaelsix9684

Жыл бұрын

thanks for your service, so sad to hear what happened to you, you were clearly outstanding and a great asset to the corps, glad to hear other Marines still contact you, you have their respect and no one can take that from you

@solaireofastora8609

Жыл бұрын

Rah SGT

@wavveytae4181

Жыл бұрын

Man I’m so sorry that happened to you . What is happening to our armed forces 🤦🏾‍♂️

@kennysherrill6542

Жыл бұрын

I experienced the same thing, I went out of my way to train other Marines to bring them up and got stepped on for my troubles. Too many others were lacking and when they were not up to speed it made them look bad. I found out over the years most who talked Billy bad Ass couldn't cut it in combat,most would roll up in a ball until the shooting stopped an then wanted to take charge again, I would not let them.

The best chow I ever had in the Navy was at MCAS Iwakuni. Thanks Devil Dogs!

Looking at joining either marines or army and this is the video I was needing

I just recently got out of the Corps and the issues that made me leave were how political everything became, how the leadership was toxic and that they never held their peers accountable but would burn any Marine to the max for the smallest infraction, and the biggest one for me is that I felt lied too. I was recruited believing we were one big marpat family and what I witnessed was devil dog eat devil dog. Not friendly competition but sabotage and separation. Letting a fellow marine fall flat on their face so you can step over them to gain the CO's favor. Don't get me wrong, I love and miss being in the gun club but I kept giving it a chance at several different duty stations and they all disappointed me.

@kwt2000trucker

Жыл бұрын

Too much racism and discrimination, I was raised across the border, born in Texas, went to High school on this side, but my English was not very fluent, I was bullied by some white racist recruits and one black drill instructor from a different platoon during PT, I reported it to my senior drill instructor who was black, and told me " he will take care of it" but the discrimination from the recruits never stopped, and after the crucible, they got worse, they told me if we were in combat they would kill me, which I simply ignored, I was very disappointed about the military, I took advantage of the dont ask dont tell policy to get out, got an OTH discharge, but thanks to the Obama administration, it was changed to Honorable discharge, so I always bash people who always say " THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE" to anyone who was in the military, thanks for what??? No foreign government has tried to invade the U.S., however, if some day Russia, Iran or North Korea sends a missile to the US, then I would be willing to defend the U.S.

@kennithpaige4955

Жыл бұрын

I just left active duty coast guard and I'm finishing in the reserves for the same reasons that you just said. Its not just marines. Talk about shitty gear cg always gets the left overs cuz we aren't dod even the bases are from other branches from a long time ago.

@armageddonjones3110

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, and I was in from 81-95, and it was just like that then as well.

@fastingislife3766

Жыл бұрын

The military is politics Officers are “politicians”!! 👀😊

@rockyroads8802

Жыл бұрын

@@fastingislife3766 Bureaucracy

To throw in my 2 cents, the hardest realization for me when it came to the Corps was that the Marine Corps I fell in love with, was not the Marine Corps I enlisted into.

@aarongonzalez3963

Жыл бұрын

probably the most accurate way to describe how i feel about the marine corp right now as i sit in my barracks room

@coreystella7806

Жыл бұрын

Same, literally watching this in my barracks room rn counting the days I get out lol

@Sancte_Benedicte

Жыл бұрын

Hang in there guys, youll get your DD214 soon enough. 'Rah and Semper Fi.

@robertsmith6068

Жыл бұрын

that was my reaction. The Marine Corps that I wanted and expected from reading, movies etc wasn't the reality. I was disappointed and wouldn't stay in something like that. I realize there is no perfection but this went beyond that. The reality didn't live up to the image. In case any one attacks my perception. Meritorious promotion to Cpl. never had office hours and left after four years as a Sgt 0311. I was an 0311 because I wanted to be infantry. I wanted to be at the sharp end.

@newark51000

Жыл бұрын

You hit it right on the nose brother.

GEAR... GEAR....GEAR!!! there is so many things that are phased out. Also testing out for MOS to be promoted should be factored in.

Facts Family 👪 💯 🙏 That's Marines, and Navy...

Getting treated like a child even as a squad leader, constantly getting lied to, undercooked chowhall food are things that come to mind within 3 seconds

@calypojr

Жыл бұрын

Yupppp

@streetwearjimmy

9 ай бұрын

I’m just going to rip the Band-Aid off and say Because we have literally retards at the at the chow hall every single day making the food.

I was in the Airborne Infantry for six years. Got out as a sergeant. I became so disillusioned at every thing about the Army that I had to take the opportunity to get out when I could. I loved the deployments, I loved the training, I loved the jumps. Hated the semantics, the horrible leaders, the castration of the combat arms, and etc. The list of reasons to stay in continues to shrink and the reasons to get out continues to grow.

@qua7771

Жыл бұрын

I think I sort of felt that way too. I had a surgery that got me out, but my morale wasn't particularly high anyway, and for reasons you mentioned.

@frankcastle9691

Жыл бұрын

Ty for your service.

@mccalltrader

Жыл бұрын

I hear you bro…I am amazed how effective we actually are..with all the disfunction I can only conclude how much more jacked up other armies are!

@codygreene9067

Жыл бұрын

@@TomASwift I wouldn’t call the military my peak at all lol. I’m doing much better in life generally now, most people in my life have no clue I was ever in and I certainly don’t mention it to strangers unprompted so get fucked. I only mentioned it here because it’s a fucking video about the problems in the military.

@davidvanwinkle5033

Жыл бұрын

@@TomASwift you sound about as intelligent as rock.

Slow promotions, but you get all-you-can-eat crayons!

I'm happy for all the people that whoever is helping people that are helping people helping people

Honestly Devil, I am a former US Army SSG and the problems are quite numerous and similar across all branches. I think this would be a great opportunity for you to do a long form live stream and allow folks to call in so we, as brothers and sisters, can have these conversations to air out what is and has been going on. Our military is in a really bad way right now and it's not the right time to be like that. I sincerely hope we get a new president next election that recognizes this and fires every CoS and starts putting in place people who care not just about retention but budget and training. We need our warrior force back.

@JamesonsTravels

Жыл бұрын

oh yeah, i know the Marine COrps is not special in that way. My wife is an Officer I see the non sense even at her level. You idea is solid about a call in. Me managing it is another issue. lol.

@thejesus95

Жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@2okaycola

Жыл бұрын

Yep

@lopaka79

Жыл бұрын

@@JamesonsTravels there's got to be one high speed desk flyer/channel-viewer that can help you out. Your Discord sounds like a good place to have interviews. EDIT: Brother your discord is full of high school memesters and wicked step-children haha

@UrielsJunkDrawer

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, a live stream would work for me. I retired after 20years in the US Navy in 09. I joined at age 27 back in the late 80's. To be honest I liked the military and would of stayed if it had not been high year tenure. As for poor or good leadership, one of the benefits of being able to transfer every 3 or so years is leadership moves or changes. All of these complaints are age old complaints. I heard them when I was in and I am hearing them now and of course I heard them from the old timers too. Good video, keep up the good work.

I was in the Marines from 1974 to 1978. When I got within two months of either reenlisting or discharging the Marine Corp decided to remove several MOSs from receiving reenlistment bonus of $10000. I was a 2531 Radio Communication Operator. Then when I was sent from Marine Barracks Adak Alaska to 29 Palms with thirty days left, I went to a career counselor who was reading a magazine with his shoes propped on his desk and he frankly could of cared less whether I reenlisted or not. I was only 21 years old and really was wanting to stay in but the Marine Corps was in a force reduction and not wanting to retain veteran Marines since you were going to be paid more and recruits at the time were being paid $700 a month as opposed to an E-4 making $1200 a month. I enjoyed my time in the Marines but I decided to use my GI Bill educational benefits and go to school. I earned a degree in electronic engineering technology and made a nice living. I am now 65 and retired.

@seane6616

Жыл бұрын

Now finish game of thrones

@halbhatia6651

Жыл бұрын

couldn't have cared less*

@vicO1323

Жыл бұрын

I was in 69-72 as a 2531 with one tour in Vietnam. After I landed stateside at Pendleton, a few months later I transferred to a Marine Barracks in Bremerton, Washington for my last year. I counted the days to my EAS and applied for college to get a 3 month early out. I think I was making $360 a month as an E-3 when I got out. Reenlistment bonus' were something like 3 or 5 thousand dollars, choice of duty stations and a promotion.

@jayluis189

Жыл бұрын

Amazing story. I was 25 Uniform in the Army which is Signal Support specialists (communication guy).

@SuperKittyPancake

Жыл бұрын

@@vicO1323 Adjusted for inflation, 360 dollars in 1972 was 2556 dollars, that enlistment bonus: 21k - 35k. Damn you're making more money than E-3's today, must've been nice. lmao

You're right, for years and years the Air Force and the Navy get all the funding, if you're Army or Marine you always get short changed 🤷

Military never changes

It is a tale as old as time. When SGM was young he would rage against the machine and knew how he was going to change things. Now he simply rages for the machine because he knows that it is self serving to do so.

@JamesonsTravels

Жыл бұрын

hey those board seats pay well.

@jerrycrouch427

Жыл бұрын

@@JamesonsTravels Those board seats do pay well if you are willing to compromise yourself to play the game. It has been an interesting experience retiring as a 1SG with an earned doctorate still trying to find a position in the civilian job market.

“Tired of getting treated like a child”. Hit the nail on the head.

@Jamesons Travels, love your videos this coming from a former Army warrior.

Great show bro. Enjoy much.

My first duty station we had a new first sergeant. He wanted 100% accountability for Pt formation. We had 2 F ups how never showed up and were getting an Article 15. 1SG keep making the company come in earlier and earlier. We would be out in the snow 2 hours before morning accountability standing at parade rest, and this went on for over a month. 3/4 of the company could tell you how many days, minutes, and seconds they had left before their ETS.

@JamesonsTravels

Жыл бұрын

mass punishment after training is stupid. burn the people who f up. leave the men alone.

@michaelsix9684

Жыл бұрын

@@JamesonsTravels amen to that

@michaelsix9684

Жыл бұрын

the best strategy here is: cut the losers, they can be discharged and removed, problem solved

@wavveytae4181

Жыл бұрын

Were you army or marines

@shawnkippenhan4657

Жыл бұрын

I was in the Marines from 1976 to 1980. By the time I had a year in, I knew how many days I had left. I still remember how many days are in 4 years and 3 years

I reason I left the corps was because I was tired of being treated like a child being checked on every hour. My senior leaders also took half of my CIF gear and I was blamed for not having it and when I said something they denied it

@whacker9265

Жыл бұрын

Protect that CIF gear with your LIFE(locking my compartment right now)

@gregdavies8572

Жыл бұрын

Always lock your gear.

@WaterdragOnn

Жыл бұрын

@@gregdavies8572 how are you locking it in a gear inspection???

@makingmajic1938

Жыл бұрын

That's the ridiculous part about the military grown men haveing to treat other grown men like they are five years old when it's only the small number of idiots that's are the screwups. Its a one team one fight when one screws up up we all screw up, but some times the person who screwed up is their fault and their fault alone and nobody else's. One of the many reasons on why I never went in.

@heartandmindovercome3214

Жыл бұрын

Unfu*****real. Oh wait, it is real. And sounds pretty accurate. Zero representation and treated like a 3rd class citizen

Rt on point Jamieson...hadn't changed in 40 yrs. Motivation Hygiene Factors we learned in Air Force NCO Leadership School. WE had our problems too. 😉

I could talk about this subject for days I was a tier 3 Marine Gung ho I loved the Marines but I wasn't the Marines first choice I had submitted for a re enlistment they didn't approve it until I was already half way across the country I knew it wasn't meant to be so I went USMC reserve but that isn't just it didn't feel quality there got out for 4 months but still wanted to serve joined the national guard and I'm loving it so many opportunities. One thing that Marines missed is never give the good Marines Credit I get all the credit in the National guard I feel apart of the team and lots of opportunities. FYI love how you mention March air base I was stationed there with my national guard unit.

Im currently serving in the Army Guard, I've met a lot of Marines who go out of the corps and joined the Guard. The most common reasons I hear for leaving the corps are toxic leadership, bad quality of life, want to spend more time with family, and/ or bad funding.

@carlosnevarez4003

Жыл бұрын

I'm in the Guard myself and have seen Marines do the same thing. I've even convinced a few myself 😂

@topfell8277

Жыл бұрын

Amen to that leadership sucks officers suck always take care of your men living in the marines always shifty. Officers are political now just a 0300

@kah4325

Жыл бұрын

So true of prior service Marines in the Guard. A lot of them. Many also love to remind everyone they were in the Marines. Like ok Soldier, thanks. Was trying to figure out whose car out there had about 20 Marine stickers/decals on it 😂 Must be a requirement for their POVs?

Man, you're spot on. I'm an active duty Army Warrant Officer. I thought that if I stayed in this sh*t game long enough, I'd be living the good life in the military. Not true, at all. I'm close to retirement, but if I could change it all, I wouldn't have stayed this route. You want to know how to recruit and retain military personnel? You provide them with the job skills that they initially signed up for, you keep them in that job unless they want to go into a broadening assignment. You provide adequate pay to that job skill that is equal, near or little below equivalent to the civilian sector. Medical physicians, and others alike, receive payment compensation. Why not do the same with other high skilled jobs like cyber, MI, engineer, etc.? The housing piece these Marines mentioned is key. Fix the environment of the barracks and dinning facilities to a point where single service members want to feel like they are being taken care of by their organization. If you look up KZread videos of the living conditions of civilian installations on Antarctica, you'll see why civilians that worked on Antarctica want to return to that harsh environment. Good living quarter, food, and quality of life. Lastly, for me, I think localized stabilization could be a driving force to raise military recruiting. By this I am mean, people in these times don't want to be relocated. That's the negative of military service for majority of these intellectual kids when they also apply with the civilian industry. Give them the option to pick their duty locations. If they want to be stationed at the nearest specific service component base closet to their hometown, let them. And after their initial enlistment, if they want to remain close to their hometown, allow them to. Give leniency to the MTOE system. It's a broken system anyways. Army Human Resource Command is a broken system, and I'm willing to bet that other service component HRs are also in the same hole of donkey sh*t. Kids these days, their culture is about the family unit. We've had two decades of war, with war veterans not sugar coating their experiences over seas. We are now a culture where we don't want to be separated from our families. And us war veterans are doing that ourselves. I've been to Afghanistan and Iraq a total of six times, with a couple of recent European rotations. I would never tell my children to join the military due to the likelihood that they could be separated from me, and my internal family, for an extended period of time. Allowing these new recruits an option to stay local, or at least closer to their hometowns, could mitigate that gut wrenching feeling of being away from family.

@ricklepick5829

Жыл бұрын

I was in paratrooper in Iraq while my son was born and while there got offered my dream contract a flight medic with the 160th SOAR and a slot in the W1 combat medical course along with a 20k bonus. I talked to some of my senior ncos and asked about how much time they missed with their kids having not even met mine yet. The answer I got that stood out was "ive missed 6 birthdays and countless life events". At that moment is when they lost me. I loved the army and I loved combat medicine but I will always love my family more.

@davidwelday3276

Жыл бұрын

Never understood why they put people on levy for Korea when there's plenty of guys that wanted to go. I didn't have a year so I signed my quitin papers upon return from a NTC rotation.

@michaelsix9684

Жыл бұрын

you covered it, thanks for sharing

@henryjoshual1848

Жыл бұрын

put this guy in charge NOW

@dudeihavenocar

Жыл бұрын

@@ricklepick5829 I have three kids. I’ve never seen any of their births. Two deployments and NTC. Yes, you read that correctly, N…T….C.

The metal inflation is ridiculous.

What im experiencing out here in civilian community that money is not available as to persons think

Currently been in the Marines for about 5 yrs and get out in 3 weeks. My experience has been awful not only with leadership but peers as well. I joined for career guidance and this so called brotherhood but every chance my peers would get to have an appointment, say their kid is sick, they think they have covid or make some dumb excuse during a crappy detachment or inspection (I'm airwing) and leave me the only person to do everything they would. My leadership once accepted a tattoo appointment my peer had as a good excuse to not go on an important recovery and sent me for quite literally my 11th det at the time. My counterparts have been on maybe 3 total 4 at the most and some have been on 0. They get all this extra time off and money cause they married someone they met months ago and have a whole house valued at 600k to sell when they get out meanwhile im struggling in the barracks with all these rules set in place so I can't have a decent living. I see shitty marines get promoted over me for the sole fact that they did cpls course even though they underperformed me in every way. Military PME is near useless for college so why bother? I'm treated like a child at 24 yrs old and over the years it really did start messing with my head. I'm stationed in California and there is such a negativity surrounding marines so it's made relationships hard to hang on to a few times. They took away the bonus for my current MOS for the Osprey and then ask me why I don't want to reenlist when right next door is a job that pays $43 an hour with benefits and none of the other BS and I also have a GI Bill. Why would I want to be broke, overworked, depressed, single, and live in the barracks for another potential 3-6 yrs until I hit staff with no bonus? At the end of the day though I met a handful of a few lifelong friends and did in fact get a little bit of guidance so I got what I wanted after 5 yrs but things could've been wayyyy better if the workload and stress was evenly split and we worked as a team instead of as individuals. Also the new generation underneath me simply doesn't care to take responsibility anymore. They see people like me stressing and instead of thinking I wanna help him not be stressed by getting qualifications the mentality is well there's this shitbag that knows nothing and does nothing so I wanna be him cause he gets paid the same anyways. All I have to say to those types of Marines is I hope you're not around when an actual war begins. Hope your experience in the Marines was or is better. I don't mean to sound like a negative nancy throughout this paragraph but I'm hoping there's other Marines that will read this and know they're not the only ones that went through something maybe similar.

@brandon33371

Жыл бұрын

I feel you I just got out after 4 years and honestly believe that the Mass majority of the Marine Corps went from kicking ass to kissing ass, don’t get me wrong I loved every thing they taught me and made some of my best friends in there, but I believe most people in now are just trying to play the system. I’m not about having to throw my co workers under the bus, and treating grown men to stop acting like children by treating them like it whilst to look good on paper. I do feel like it’s just my first experience with my first unit but I’m not about to chance spending another 16 of this taking a toll on my mental health.

@AM-in5is

Жыл бұрын

My experience was the command screwing over NCOs. Junior Marines are not held accountable and are privileged. Commands took all the power and responsibility away from NCOs especially CPLs.

@icetray2727

Жыл бұрын

What’s the branch you would’ve joined instead of the marines?

@rolandobaluja7504

Жыл бұрын

I wish you the best in your life outside of the service as someone that's been out for 19 years I can sell you I took advantage of the services that were offered to me it was brutal taking the maximum amount of classes in school and my social life suffered quite a bit by managed to get my bachelor's degree in master's degree. I left off my GI Bill and in Illinois my use the Illinois veterans grant to pay for college. Keep in mind you can use military service account towards civilian education it's important to get with the VA rep at any college to get an ace transcript that's when they transfer your military education into civilian education. One thing I would also recommend is once you complete your time and service and your DD-214 definitely gives a decisive date in which you have completed your contractual obligation then I would recommend signing up for unemployment you would get it right away and you don't have to be on it for the rest of your life. For some people call just for them first others it's not but what I've found that it tends to screw soldiers over is that there's a level of desperation when they get out in which they'll deplete their savings and settle for any job offer to them. I can tell you collecting unemployment it's not going to be something you're going to be rich awful but it gives you a study income where you can strategize what you want to do next in your life and you can decide what option is best for you without depleting all your savings or settling for a job that is beneath your skill set or interest. While you're in and when you get out it's important to be strategic and get what you need. Make sure while you're in you have all the medical documentation you need in case you want to file disability claim and also while you're in try to complete getting updated prescription for glasses, and you Dental or any medical because in the civilian world all those are going to be more expensive. Good luck and I wish you the best

@tylermassey9167

Жыл бұрын

@@icetray2727 if you're planning on joining and want a good quality of life 100% the air force. I can't promise you'll love the air force but I can say my ex was air force and their amenities blew everyone's out of the water

I got out because of the promotion system at the time I was in. My MOS had no promotions yet the same people I went to school with, worked right next to doing really the same exact job, were getting promoted years before my MOS, and I had no control over it. Didn't matter what my evals, scores, etc were.

@jamesg1974a

Жыл бұрын

Yup it’s pretty hard watching the band MOS make E7 in 3 years.

@Rover19666

Жыл бұрын

same crap happens in the civilian world as well

@jaygunter3828

Жыл бұрын

@@Rover19666 Perhaps, but that hasn't been my experience, and you have a lot more control over it if you want to do something about it.

@dnegel9546

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesg1974a haha so true.

the problem with USMC is the leadership "good ol boy network" attitude reflects leadership.

Great video! All Korean officers in ROKA must see these. They are complaining about their getting paid low while mistreating enlisted like bullshit.

I joined the Marines in 1968 after having read numerous biographies about Marine heroes who led their people in combat. That was in theory not in practice in my experience. I found out that in a combat situation there are more managers than leaders. They were good at directing those under them from a safe position where to go and what to do without doing it themselves. During my time in Viet Nam I only met 2 officers who were leaders, who led their Marines from the front, not the rear. Sad to say, they were the exception, not the rule. As a result, I vowed when I came home I would not allow anyone to manage me anymore. I'm 71 now and I've held to that practice. It's caused me a fair amount of trouble now and then but it was worth it. Chesty Pullers are in rare supply in any service.

@cesarhernandez769

Жыл бұрын

I had a PSG who would favor yes men instead of those who got results and would try to bar those who stood up to him from reenlistment

@larryspiller6633

Жыл бұрын

I understand completely. "Leadership" in the Army is every NCO or Officer that outranks you so they'd have you believe. I was fortunate early on in the fact that I had a few Mentors that didn't let their stripes or brass confuse what real "Leadership" should be. If things ever went sideways, I would have hoped that they were in charge.

@manticore4952

Жыл бұрын

I don't work in the military but I saw that same nonsense, people now say I am abrasive but I simply don't put up the BS anymore.

@heythere3137

Жыл бұрын

@@manticore4952 when you don't cave to peoples demands, "yesmen" You will be labeled "difficult"

@Bradgilliswhammyman

Жыл бұрын

lol chesty puller....sounds like a porn star name. i know he is a decorated soldier but lol.

I joined the Corps in 1985, by 1989 I was ready to be done and didn't re-enlist. I was tired of the BS, the mindgames, the immaturity of the higher ranking Marines, the very poor decision making, and the overall lack of care provided to Marines. I was stationed at Camp Lejeune and were were still living in 1940's squadbays, drinking and bathing in contaminated water. Don't get me wrong, I love the Corps and it made me a much better man, but I didn't like the way we were treated. Like the old joke, what is the difference between the Marines and the Boy Scouts? The Boy Scouts have adult leadership.

@JamesonsTravels

Жыл бұрын

in 4 years the Corps can sour a relationship hard. Out of boot camp guys want to be Chesty Puller. Even a year later they are disenfranchised....why?

@Jdavidson210

Жыл бұрын

@@JamesonsTravels It's the culture of the Corps. So many Marines are just burnt out or disillusioned after only a few years. You watch a young lance corporal get busted for DUI and you see a Gunny get a slap on the wrist for the same offense. You see officers and SNCOs get away with so much nonsense that the enlisted get slammed for. I got out as a Corporal and picked up Sergeant in the Reserves. I treated my junior enlisted like people and while they loved and respected me for it I was called out by officers and SNCOs many times for treating my Marines like human beings.

@edwardpike3386

Жыл бұрын

I was there in 69-72 drinking that same contaminated water. It's a wonder our pricks did.t fall off. We're lucky to be alive with so many dying from cancer. i was there twice in 2nd Shore Party Btln and HQ. Co. 10th Marines. Lejeune sucked back then and from your statement it hasn't changed much.

@gregorysalazar8370

Жыл бұрын

Some of us just join for one enlistment and leave. I was in for one pump in 1980-84. It was always my intention to go to college using the VA benefits I earned. I always thought that it was guys who needed to be baby sitter that should stay in. I am so happy I got out after one enlisted.

Joining the USMC is one of my biggest regrets.

Great video. It seems the marines have the biggest retention issues. That's ankle to all those that serve.

Requiring college for officers is an old holdover that can probably be done away with. Back in WWII when about 7% of the population was going to college it may have meant a little something, but not that much. Now with over 30% going it doesn't mean as much. If you do a little research, there are studies showing that as the quality of college admissions has gone done, the quality of officers has also gone down.

@JamesonsTravels

Жыл бұрын

so many enlisted guys have degrees. frankly, the best leaders should lead. not based on a history degree and ocs. No other business would have such an outdated system.

@Thane36425

Жыл бұрын

@@JamesonsTravels If that's the case then something like an OCS version of the British Sandhurst school would be a good idea. Maybe it would work well enough that the college requirement could be waived for good leaders.

@SR-ob3wn

Жыл бұрын

The whole system is ridiculous and is a holdover from medieval times. The officers are the nobility and the enlisted are the peasant farmers. No other organizations put inexperienced college grads in charge just because of a piece of paper. Think about if police forces, fire departments, federal law enforcement etc worked like this? The new police chief is 23 yo and got the job because he has a degree…yeah not gonna happen. I’m in my 40’s and I’m sick and tired of working for people that were wearing diapers when I joined.

@danielrelinski5665

Жыл бұрын

College only produces "Power Point Heros". I retired as a CW4 and have always said, promote all officers from the ranks. I went through the Army on the "high school to flight school" program. I flew some of the most complex helicopters and fixed wing aircraft for 28 years with zero college, no other service allows this anymore. I honestly couldn't recommend ANYONE go into the military today. It is going to get to the point here in the near future that they are going to have to resort to the draft to put meat in a seat. I retired in 2011 and it was getting bad then, I can't even imagine how bad it is today.

@lanceblinent7909

Жыл бұрын

@@JamesonsTravels I strongly agree that the officer ranking system is obsolete and is nothing more than class warfare within the ranks. How the hell is a boot lieuey higher in rank then a SNCO?

When i first got to my duty station i had a pretty good command. After we got back from deployment the new leadership we got wasnt so great. With that i still would've stayed in if i hadnt been medboarded out

I have probably 2 handfuls of friends that came back from Iraq & Afghanistan all F'd up mentally (AF, Army & Marines) and the VA basically abandoned them and told them to get in line... Further addressing that problem would definitely help.

Former Navy here. I always noticed the difference between how sailors and marines are treated as low ranking/young adults. The Navy was big boy rules where as long as you did your job and stayed in regs, you got plenty of time off and treated pretty well. I left the Navy due to medical and became a police officer. Cops have to follow similar rules and regs as military folk, but it’s similar to the Navy where it’s big boy rules (at least at my agency). I don’t think any grown man wants to play the f*** f*** games past 22-23 years old and most marines I came across were getting treated like idiot children. We didn’t have anything to do one particular day in Italy. Navy side got cut loose after a field day and pt at around 1000. Marines got told to carry their gear from one end of the base to the other. And then got told to do it again. They weren’t even allowed off the base.

@treyspencer3101

9 ай бұрын

That's how they get us to fight good. Gotta keep us angry lmao.

@lordrevan571

9 ай бұрын

@@treyspencer3101 Yeah you fight good, you also kill yourselves good from PTSD and stress, you also tend to go off the rails faster than anyone else and it's kept under the radar. It's almost like creating a unit of blood thirsty always angry retards doesn't work well when there's nothing to give an outlet for their anger besides a superior who will beat you down.

@cool_cat007smoove3

9 ай бұрын

Damn😮😮😮

@user-iz3gv7th6z

9 ай бұрын

​@@treyspencer3101yep. The only thing we got alot of was water. Tired? Drink more water. Hurt? Drink more water. Sick? Why TF DIDNT YOU DRINK WATER!

@ryanl8730

9 ай бұрын

FUBAR

I really enjoyed my time in the Marine Corps 2007-2012. If I could do it all over again I would have joined any other branch after realizing that people were getting 100k signing bonuses for doing the same job as I was doing. Not only making less money, every other branch had better gear, better food, better living accommodations, and way less supervision and f#@*$& f#$*& games. I had buddies in different branches at different bases in Japan. I remember my Air Force buddy had his own room as an E-1 while I had 2 roommates as a E-4 Corporal. When I first arrived in Japan, it was just the end of a huge lock down for the punishment of a SSgt who had r@p3d a local. The entire Corps suffered because of one persons actions. Screw that. Earning the title Marine is great, but clout doesnt pay the bills.

@UnDeAdSpRaYe

Жыл бұрын

i feel your pain to the core. It was the same for me in oki. i loved that place. but seriously i was cpl with a roomate sharing the head with two other people while the fucking airforce had a danm mini kitchen for one person.

There were two reasons my Marine stated to me when he separated in 90 after 6 in - 1 was that he was tired of being put on PT for “appearance”. Not overweight, no “bulges”, he just isn’t a big guy, at 5’6! The second was the “anti-family” attitude - we had gotten married at the end of Sept, he was slated to go back to Okinawa in March for a year. No spouses on that one… 🤷‍♀️

28 months as a L/Cpl. Nuf said. Promoting Corporals out of school for high grades.

I got out of the Marine Corps in 1994 after my enlistment was up. I can say I had enough of being owned and micromanaged for 4 years. It was actually I guess what it feels like to get out of prison. It took me over a year to adjust to civilian life. I was not used to making my own decisions and being in control of my own life. I'm very proud to be a Marine and would never take it back. It did teach me discipline and accountability. I also loved the comradery, but the Marine Corps is certainly not for everyone.

@kwest474

Жыл бұрын

Same for me, 1983-1987. Traveled the world including invading Grenada and 4 months in Beirut, 2/8 Marine. Highly decorated for a PFC in the mid 80's but after the real experiences ended so did the fun and adventure. I looked at the rest of my time in the suck as a prison sentence and thats why we have a short timer calendar like the prisoners do.

@just_one_opinion

Жыл бұрын

Semper fi brothers. 4 active , 4 inactive reserves, Nice Med tour in 94 (somalia and bosnia)

@stupidandboot4507

Жыл бұрын

I'm getting out in a few months after 1 enlistment with basically the same gripe. Why would I spend any more time being treated like a child when my dad did that for 18 years

@qua7771

Жыл бұрын

As a sailor my had goes off. My first year was on a training command run by Marines. After going to a navy squadron things were more laid back, but still structured a certain way. Adapting after getting out was the same PITA your describing.

I EASd after my 4-year enlistment in the Infantry after I was denied a lateral move into another MOS. My career planner was just lazy and said my only option was to reenlist on station in same MOS. I used my GI Bill to get an Engineering Degree, I get paid more money for doing less work and I don't get treated like a child.

Was a good episode, for a change

Lmao! woodland MOP in the desert, classic :p

When I first joined the Marines in the year 2000, it was quite clear from the beginning we did not have very much funding. It was no secret, and even my drill instructors would tell us that historically speaking Marines had a reputation of getting the toughest jobs done with the least amount of gear. My M.O.P suit had at least a dozen patches from previous users, and look to be at least a decade old or more. Even the rain poncho I was issued was more patches than Pancho. The first M16 I was issued in the fleet was so covered in rust I spent about 5 hours busting it off. This used to be somewhat of a point of pride for us, knowing we were still the most badass Force in the world, while using the most crap!

@skinnyWHITEgoyim

Жыл бұрын

izreeull has received over 2 trillion dollars in military aid since 2003.... there's where our money goes. This doesn't even take into account the wars we fight to keep them in control by sending our sons and daughters, fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters to fight izreeuhlls wars in the middle east to keep them and their central banking cartel in power. They are our misfortune

@RayRay-kh5bg

Жыл бұрын

Lol, you probably got my MOPP gear after I turned it in a few years prior. Plus the poncho 😂

@michaelsix9684

Жыл бұрын

my brother was Marine 76-80, he said the same thing -- poor gear, leftovers from earlier times etc. I guess things haven't changed that much -- the key questions for the Pentagon to ask every branch is" do you have what you need? do you have enough of it? does it work well? is there something better available we can or should get? people are your best assets, they CANNOT do their job well w/o the right tools - you don't send people into battle poorly equipped -- that undermines their confidence and ability to win

@sparrow420500

Жыл бұрын

@@RayRay-kh5bg lol, probably.

@ProjecthuntanFish

Жыл бұрын

When you wear a MOPP suit in actual combat where NBC protection is needed you would be given a new one still in plastic. I was given a US MOPP suit and a British MOPP suit in Desert Storm.

well.. here is the thing, how about the govt quit using the armed forces as bargaining chips to make deals with other countries

Make every leaders performance report have a block in their evaluation where their subordinates get have input.

Exact same problem in the Royal Marines Commandos. Exact thing! Retention is absolutely horrendous. Trained to death then no one cares when you are in. Lads trained to an excellent standard then left to mince around camp picking up litter. 2022 it’s not cutting the mustard

@JamesonsTravels

Жыл бұрын

Hey good to see you. I cannot get either of our countries churning out guys that have experience for new prospects who may work out. Or because of some new dbag Lt who just finished a gender studies degree and ocs.

@dennissneed2214

Жыл бұрын

@@JamesonsTravels Roger that. The new military seems way too political for me ..I served from 78-85.. the reason I saw people not joining was the optics...they were cutting folks out ..I guess you couldn't be big boned and fail that punch test...and I guess times were better...so the Army felt the need to trim some fat from the ranks ..

@CharlonClarke

Жыл бұрын

wow, crazy and also not surprising to know it's happening in other branches also

@dennissneed2214

Жыл бұрын

Right, that's what we would have referred to as police call...

I relate so much to the Lance who got out. I myself am a Lance, and I relate so much to being treated like a child. I’ve had my leaders to tell me to stop acting like a Lance Corporal, but the second I show some sort of initiative? I’m immediately beaten down to “You’re just a Lance”.

@jackrambo3071

Жыл бұрын

Facts

@icetray2727

Жыл бұрын

What branch you would’ve joined if it wasn’t the marines?

@jackrambo3071

Жыл бұрын

@@icetray2727 none. It woulda always been the corps. None compare training wise, but if you have a social life and close ties with family that’ll probably go out the window. Peoples lives move on while you’re gone for 7 months - 1 1/2 years without coming back for a few days then heading right back to work.

@umamifan

Жыл бұрын

@@jackrambo3071 I heard that the CG got the most intense training, and that people who went in for basic training with the CG can skip out on basic training if they were to go to any other branch

@Whytfisthereahandle

Жыл бұрын

@@umamifan troll.

Accountability in leadership.

Lol funding has been an issue since my Grandpa was on Iwo Jima & Saipan.

I was never in the military, I wasn't cut out for it. It takes a special kind of person to be in the military. I have friends who are marines, they are a cut above the rest. The woke thing is bringing down the military, that's what I am observing....

@JamesonsTravels

Жыл бұрын

ah you could have done it. its helps many young folks learn what they like, hate and perspective on things.

@marblesthecat3861

Жыл бұрын

@@JamesonsTravels I was too soft. I'm your age and life kicked my ass in different ways.

@Felix-dg9rt

Жыл бұрын

I've never seen anything woke. If by woke you mean you're disappointed that hazing is not allowed anymore than yeah I guess so

@FORDultra

Жыл бұрын

@@Felix-dg9rt you must be blind to it, because the rest of the world sees it...

@Felix-dg9rt

Жыл бұрын

@@FORDultra what is woke in the military? You mean you're upset that you can't call the wrong person something messed up? Within my division in the navy, we're all cool with each other so we can still say and do fucked up things to each other. It becomes a problem when you say and do fucked up things to someone you don't know. If that's woke that you can't call some random person you don't know a faggót, then I don't know what to tell you.