Why Man City's 115 Charges Could See Them Kicked Out Of The Premier League | EXPLAINED

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Manchester City have been accused of 115 breaches of the Premier League's rules. In light of Everton's points deduction though, the spotlight has again fallen over Pep Guardiola's club as their investigation rumbles on without a conclusion in sight. But why is that, when can fans expect a resolution, and just how much trouble might City actually be in?
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  • @utternonsenseproductions2415
    @utternonsenseproductions24156 ай бұрын

    I bet City will end up receiving a 30 point head start for the next 4 seasons and given 38 home game fixtures next season as an apology for inconveniencing them.

  • @utternonsenseproductions2415

    @utternonsenseproductions2415

    6 ай бұрын

    @@ImaybeNormal oh yes, wecannot forget that punishment should apply to other teams for allowing Man City to suffer so badly during this process

  • @millerchassis6119

    @millerchassis6119

    6 ай бұрын

    I hope they strip them of their trophys

  • @redboyjan

    @redboyjan

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@millerchassis6119they're plastic trophies so they don't count already, everyone knows this

  • @mebarkiimad4575

    @mebarkiimad4575

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@redboyjan they don't count ? The tears are unbelievable 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @redboyjan

    @redboyjan

    6 ай бұрын

    @@mebarkiimad4575 no tears. Just don't support clubs owner by facist states

  • @xkumanekox
    @xkumanekox6 ай бұрын

    As much as I would like to see them instantly get relegated, we all know that they've got enough money to pay their way out of this mess, it's so predictable.

  • @lol-bg4wh

    @lol-bg4wh

    6 ай бұрын

    I have optimism they will get hit hard, there is no way at least 1 of those 115 charges don’t get hit

  • @Thebigaye799

    @Thebigaye799

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@lol-bg4whhas there been a list of those 115 charges?

  • @lol-bg4wh

    @lol-bg4wh

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Thebigaye799 yup

  • @Infernus25

    @Infernus25

    6 ай бұрын

    and even if they are relegated, who cares, theyll just be up again the next season

  • @Clark_Ken

    @Clark_Ken

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@lol-bg4whtheir own lawyers even said it will never leave the courts so nothing will happen, they pay so much for lawyers that it will probably never be resolved and will forever be ongoing

  • @spiderneil
    @spiderneil6 ай бұрын

    For the record, City weren’t exonerated by the court of arbitration the charges were time barred so City got off. The FA have no such time limit for charges.

  • @rpotter14

    @rpotter14

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes, thought they would go more into this but they just skipped over it. Annoys me when media use the word exonerated as City clearly weren’t, and yet they have managed to set the narrative on this issue simply by claiming they were (and thus playing the victim). Also, one of the reasons the time limit to prosecute this passed is because City stalled the investigation as long as they possibly could, and refused to cooperate at all turns - something they were found guilty of. Although of course they got off with a fine they could easily afford. Great job, CAS

  • @mana3735

    @mana3735

    4 ай бұрын

    Only SOME of the evidence EUFA provided was time-barred. The rest wasn't...and City still proved it was bs.

  • @dalmarcampbell1148

    @dalmarcampbell1148

    4 ай бұрын

    You are chatting shit. I can bet you did not read the document from CAS based on your ignorant response.

  • @tonydecentblackman1327

    @tonydecentblackman1327

    Ай бұрын

    For the record, the Court judged there was no evidence to support sponsorship fraud. What was time barred was the years where UEFA agreed a settlement agreement rather than investigation. - Court of Sport Arbitration 2020/A/6785 Manchester City FC v UEFA, Para 255 of their judgment: 'UEFA's theory would also mean that not only MCFC lied to The FA and UEFA, but also that accountancy firms such as BDO, Deloitte, Ernst & Young and AlixPartners that all examined accounts of one or more entities were misled. The Panel finds that such allegations are also not warranted based on the evidence presented.'

  • @johnmichaelson9173
    @johnmichaelson91736 ай бұрын

    Take the titles off them, they've been bang at it for season after season. They were only let off the UEFA charges because of the time limit had expired, they were guilty & everyone knows they'd been cooking the books.

  • @mebarkiimad4575

    @mebarkiimad4575

    6 ай бұрын

    Everyone knows ! Maybe that's just u 😂😂

  • @racheedwilson7927

    @racheedwilson7927

    6 ай бұрын

    You do realize those titles would just be vacated right? They won't be handed to the 2nd place team. See the Juventus Calciopoli

  • @johnmichaelson9173

    @johnmichaelson9173

    6 ай бұрын

    @@mebarkiimad4575 If it's just me why are you watching a video about Man City being kicked out of the Premier League? U R A W⚓

  • @johnmichaelson9173

    @johnmichaelson9173

    6 ай бұрын

    @@racheedwilson7927 Yes that's why it's not mentioned in my comment. If City cheated & won the PL title then Man City need to be removed as winners.

  • @mebarkiimad4575

    @mebarkiimad4575

    6 ай бұрын

    @@johnmichaelson9173 they won because they play good but it's fine I understand the hate

  • @DaveHooke1973
    @DaveHooke19736 ай бұрын

    I can understand why a lot of fans think money trumps fairness etc so City will get off lightly if found culpable but the Premier League's brand partly relies on competitiveness and, most importantly, it's made up of 20 clubs including Man Utd, Liverpool, and Arsenal who have their own interests in this matter. To put it mildly. Could be serious for City.

  • @Infernus25

    @Infernus25

    6 ай бұрын

    thats a good point, alot of the teams that make the league (the ones you just mentioned) also have money and have a vested interest in seeing them punished

  • @Hindsighht

    @Hindsighht

    6 ай бұрын

    The PL are terrified of Man City.

  • @MikeCornwall
    @MikeCornwall5 ай бұрын

    Fines aren't enough of a punishment. You said you doubt it'll work off a 10 points per charge reduction but to be honest, that is exactly what should happen. If guilty of financial doping, or to make it clearer, CHEATING, you've then got to think of all the teams that missed out of titles, trophies and Champions League places over the past decade when this has been going on. Fining City means nothing because their owners have unlimited money. Relegating them to the Championship is a minor inconvenience, they'll be back up in a year. Is that really a fitting punishment considering the number of charges? They should be relegated to the very bottom tier of English football if found guilty and have every single one of their trophies and titles stripped from the records.

  • @mazdakmina9493

    @mazdakmina9493

    5 ай бұрын

    I also just realized something. Liverpool's historic 97-point season had only 1 loss - on the road to Man City (and their home fixture was a draw)! Not only did they get cheated out of a title, but an undefeated season and possibly the greatest PL season of all time (there's only been one undefeated season, and only one 100 point season - also by a cheating Man City. With no Man City cheating, Liverpool are *definitely* undefeated, and *very likely* reach triple figures that season - a season in which they also won the Champions League)! Whatever the final verdict, I'm calling it now. That '18-'19 Liverpool team is the greatest English team of all time! It took *literal cheating* to deny them a 100-point undefeated season in a year they won the Champions League!

  • @GlennMaleya-sm1oh

    @GlennMaleya-sm1oh

    3 ай бұрын

    Arsenal fans should stop praying for city's downfall just because their club hasn't won the epl title for two decades.

  • @travishancock2302
    @travishancock23026 ай бұрын

    Man city is guilty as hell. Their titles should be taken away

  • @thepenguinmafia
    @thepenguinmafia6 ай бұрын

    CAS didnt find city 'not-guilty'. They said that the charges were too long ago.

  • @sknmttn
    @sknmttn6 ай бұрын

    I bet City fans are really looking forward to playing Mansfield Town again, they were always well up for that fixture.

  • @yatesy117

    @yatesy117

    6 ай бұрын

    They'd be tougher opposition than Man United.....!

  • @craigmullen9046

    @craigmullen9046

    6 ай бұрын

    If it's a league match yeah. Not the Auto windscreen competition. Which you and others conveniently never mention to suit your narrative.

  • @sknmttn

    @sknmttn

    6 ай бұрын

    @@craigmullen9046 City 1 Mansfield 2, Attendance 3007 ha ha ha

  • @craigmullen9046

    @craigmullen9046

    6 ай бұрын

    ​​​@@sknmttnIn the Auto windscreen Competition. Not a league Match as I've stated. In which you and other Raggies Conveniently never Mention the Competition when bringing that match and the attendance up!!!

  • @sknmttn

    @sknmttn

    6 ай бұрын

    @@craigmullen9046 I think Stockport were playing at home that night so no wonder the attendance was so low.

  • @SpuddersSpud-ps6dd
    @SpuddersSpud-ps6dd6 ай бұрын

    Its 115 charges to begin with, there is still the post 2018 charges (Abu Dhabi stopped complying at that point). Having an oil state purchase trophies is not sport. Sport is about competition, and when you bury the competition via owner wealth and cheating the sport ceases to be credible.

  • @DavidEdwards-uf5lg

    @DavidEdwards-uf5lg

    5 ай бұрын

    You would think with all these charges the prosecution would have a mountain of evidence, wouldn't you? SO LET'S SEE IT.

  • @MCFCReacts

    @MCFCReacts

    4 ай бұрын

    There are no post 2018 breaches

  • @dalmarcampbell1148

    @dalmarcampbell1148

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@MCFCReactsGoes to show these rival fans a desperate amd cling to any straw.

  • @darrenscott417

    @darrenscott417

    4 ай бұрын

    Pep made it clear he didn’t want to cheat the system that’s why there’s no post 2018 charges same as baradda did that’s why he jumped ship and I’d hate to see pep follow Klopp out the exit door

  • @Stewberto
    @Stewberto6 ай бұрын

    My realistic guess would be a 3 point deduction, a £10mili fine & one season ban from European competitions. Either way they’ll be fine.

  • @erik-tea-bag

    @erik-tea-bag

    6 ай бұрын

    If Everton got a 10 point deduction 3 points for city is unrealistic. The premier League would be boycotted by all fans

  • @mana3735

    @mana3735

    4 ай бұрын

    A fine for what?

  • @DATLinux

    @DATLinux

    4 күн бұрын

    The EPL has nothing to do with Europe.

  • @Ozone280
    @Ozone2806 ай бұрын

    I would relegate Chelsea and City (if found guilty) and subject them to a transfer ban for six transfer windows. It would be up to the Football League as to whether or not they will be allowed into the Championship or have to enter the league structure in it's lowest league like Rangers had to do. A fine for either club would be meaningless.

  • @gr3saeyend

    @gr3saeyend

    6 ай бұрын

    Thank God no one cares about what you would do

  • @mazdakmina9493

    @mazdakmina9493

    5 ай бұрын

    Also, remove their titles. You don't have to give them to the second placed teams (just yet). Just remove them at first! Make a statement about how you win nothing if you cheat! That needs to happen *first and foremost!* Only *then* should we decide what happens to the title during those seasons. That being said, if there is a clear winner in a season where Man City cheated (like Man United in 2012 with 89 points and 19 points ahead of 3rd placed Arsenal, or Liverpool in 2019 with 97 points and 25 points ahead of 3rd placed Chelsea), then yes, recognize those fantastic seasons with a title. And yes, I actually *do* believe they should find a fair way to retroactively award titles in seasons Man City cheated in (i.e., all of Man City's matches are now officially forfeits, and the team at the top of the table after it's reworked gets the title - plus mandatory reparations to those teams, as well as any teams cheated out of top 4, Europa League, or non-relegation spots). If for nothing else, because if you don't give the title to anyone, you're sending a message that you could *lose* something if you *don't* cheat! That could incentivize *future* cheating (i.e., teams will almost certainly be thinking, "if we don't cheat now, we don't get this title at all, even if the team beating us *is* found to be cheating")! You get the point. Either way, the direct reward of the cheating needs to be wiped away, or it'll incentivize it further! 😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬 But yes, in addition, your solution is the best one I've seen. The only thing I'd want to add (besides removing their accolades) is banning the owners from ever again owning any team in English football!

  • @MCFCReacts

    @MCFCReacts

    4 ай бұрын

    @@mazdakmina9493City won those leagues on the pitch. If we’re guilty relegate us

  • @akxn2162

    @akxn2162

    Ай бұрын

    How unhappy you people are in your real life man 😂😂

  • @XboneMalone
    @XboneMalone6 ай бұрын

    Man Ctiy were not 'exonerated' by CAS. The charges UEFA brought were deemed to be out of time (given UEFA's own rules about bringing charges within a set time). So CAS did not rule on those - they threw them out effectively. They DID rule that City did not comply with UEFA's investigation so fined them heavily for that.

  • @mana3735

    @mana3735

    4 ай бұрын

    Only SOME of the EUFA charges were time-barred. Most wasn't. the media don't tell you that.

  • @dalmarcampbell1148

    @dalmarcampbell1148

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@mana3735The Cas documemt clearly states that only a few charges were time barred and were dismissed . The rest City were exonerated but it doesnt fot the rivals narrative

  • @mana3735

    @mana3735

    4 ай бұрын

    @@dalmarcampbell1148 No...and the media will never tell them that either. The football press are incredibly bias and will pander to the hate.

  • @stephenremnant8151
    @stephenremnant81516 ай бұрын

    I'd be amazed if anything serious happens to them

  • @hc7040
    @hc70404 ай бұрын

    Just goes to show how good klopp is competing with these cheaters for all these years

  • @consuelomassarotto3509
    @consuelomassarotto35095 ай бұрын

    The premier league is no longer credible even in Italy because of City's No FFP

  • @phnompenhandy
    @phnompenhandy6 ай бұрын

    I'm not seeing anyone refer to Glasgow Rangers. They were done for financial irregularities over secret payments to players over years, too. They were effectively dissolved and reformed in the 4th tier. Is that not a precedent?

  • @Infernus25

    @Infernus25

    6 ай бұрын

    I mean its a different league so probably not

  • @phnompenhandy

    @phnompenhandy

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Infernus25 I mean there is an example there as a benchmark.

  • @carlberry5494

    @carlberry5494

    6 ай бұрын

    No and this shows why FFP is such a farce (both EPL and UEFA), Rangers went bankrupt through mismanagement and owing the Tax office millions but the teams that are continually targeted by these charges (City, PSG, Chelsea etc.) aren't in any financial danger. If FFP were really about protecting clubs from financial mismanagement perhaps a team that's billions in debt, have mortgaged their future TV rights for a decade and still regularly can't afford to register free transfers every summer would be facing some kind of charges, but clearly not. On the other hand if FFP is about levelling the field then we need to limit EPL transfer spending and wages to whatever Luton say they can afford, but again doesn't seem likely. I'm a City fan so quite biased but if we have broken rules we should be punished accordingly, the Everton case is a ridiculous punishment, again how does a relatively small overspend on a Stadium project produce a point deduction that threatens a club's EPL status,? Does the EPL believe that "helps" the club's future? In terms of the City charges it seems odd it's taken this long after the 4 year (alleged) investigation, you'd think they'd have been ready to go, I'm sure that the House of Commons debating whether football needed external regulation and a massive set of seemingly not fully prepared charges on a club previously targeted by UEFA are entirely coincidental.

  • @kunimitsune177

    @kunimitsune177

    6 ай бұрын

    Of course it isn't a precedent, is Scotland ffs. This is the PL not the SP.

  • @phnompenhandy

    @phnompenhandy

    6 ай бұрын

    @@kunimitsune177 There's linear thinking, and there's this :lol:

  • @NobbyWright
    @NobbyWright6 ай бұрын

    The manc kid works for City? Found not guilty my arse, no mention of the time restraint & no mention of the two-year ban...

  • @jack4919
    @jack49194 ай бұрын

    I think, despite the fact that it could disrupt future leagues, you worry about that at the time. If they don’t make a huge example of city with this then it would only continue and get worse

  • @stub6378
    @stub63786 ай бұрын

    They will just out lawyer and delay.

  • @davethemegatron8481
    @davethemegatron84815 ай бұрын

    The problem for city if they do get relegated is that the efl are not obligated to accept City they can just straight up refuse to allow city into any of their league which I think they will do as if they were to allow city it would just cause more problems for the efl

  • @sawyertuide7636
    @sawyertuide76364 ай бұрын

    I think Man City will have their charges dropped completely, however Chelsea we face more charges for Boehly, and be given 15 points + a fine + potentially give Boehly a ban from owning PL Clubs, however nothing touched with Abramovich or their trophies No relegation will take place directly, however with the way Chelsea are looking, they could come close in the year of the deduction

  • @michaelglynn7010
    @michaelglynn70106 ай бұрын

    City getting off on a time limit technicality from those UEFA charges is essentially like being acquitted. They didn’t prove themselves innocent of those charges and only got off on a technicality.

  • @yatesy117

    @yatesy117

    6 ай бұрын

    Still had a 38 million fine and squad size deducted it's in UEFA rules that it was longer than 5+ years so can't be found guilty of it

  • @Hadar1991

    @Hadar1991

    5 ай бұрын

    @@yatesy117 That penalty was not for breaching FPP but for being "pain in the butt". Basically City is too lawyered up and before they do anything FA and UEFA ask them it will go trough countless appeals of City's lawyers. Probably City could take FA and UFA to court and win arguing that they should have the ability to appeal any request etc. but probably it is cheaper to eat the fines.

  • @mana3735

    @mana3735

    4 ай бұрын

    LIAR!! Onle SOME of the EUFA charges were time-barred. Most wasn't...and City proved no wrong doing in relation to those.

  • @johnmitchell2269
    @johnmitchell22696 ай бұрын

    Put them in the same league as FC United of Manchester.

  • @swaldron5558

    @swaldron5558

    4 ай бұрын

    Brilliant idea!

  • @goodhumanbeing3417

    @goodhumanbeing3417

    2 ай бұрын

    😂

  • @FozzQuaker
    @FozzQuaker6 ай бұрын

    In the words of Brian Clough, Chelsea and City should 'get all there trophies, all there medals and all there pots and pans and chuck in the nearest fucking dustbin, because they never won any of them fairly'

  • @petergroverd6626

    @petergroverd6626

    2 ай бұрын

    Well said.

  • @alvinaditya1610
    @alvinaditya16106 ай бұрын

    the integrity of premier league is on the line, but in the end, money talks

  • @ohforgodsake8486
    @ohforgodsake84866 ай бұрын

    I wonder what Pep is going to do. Because he's regarded as the best manager in the world, at managing big clubs. But you can only be labelled the best if you manage and succeed at all levels, surely. He never goes to mediocre or poor clubs. Because he knows he'll be found out.

  • @gr3saeyend

    @gr3saeyend

    6 ай бұрын

    oh piss off “getting found out” what a dumb reason. Maybe pep chooses big clubs because hes a big club manager not someone scathing for a relegation battle

  • @gurmukhsinghbansal479

    @gurmukhsinghbansal479

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@gr3saeyendbasically what the guy you replied too is trying to say is, is that pep has had it lucky and his true managerial skills will be put the to the test at a lower club and can make them successful. He had a great barca side, took over the treble winning bayern side, and a blank cheque at city. He's no SAF or Bill Shankly that's for sure.

  • @lenneth1188

    @lenneth1188

    6 ай бұрын

    This is why Pep is widely considered a fraud. If he was that good, he would win the league with a very weak team like Burnley, but the fraud Pep knew he'd be exposed so he doesn't dare

  • @craigmullen9046

    @craigmullen9046

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@gurmukhsinghbansal479No Sir Bastard broke every British Transfer Record long before City's new wealth of 2008.

  • @jamm8284
    @jamm82846 ай бұрын

    If 10 points is the "plea deal" for 1 charge of going over by about £7m a year... What's going to be the charge for wasting time with pleading innocent with even 10 out of the 115 charges? It needs to be proportionate to Everton's penalty, if it's 10x charges of similar advantage given then it's 100 points. It sounds like they haven't gone on the rule they broke but the advantage it gave and I don't think Evertons advantage was anywhere near what man city got from breaking the rules.

  • @connortren1853

    @connortren1853

    6 ай бұрын

    Rangers got relegated three leagues for less

  • @kunimitsune177

    @kunimitsune177

    6 ай бұрын

    They went over by ~£70m/year not 7m mate

  • @jamm8284

    @jamm8284

    6 ай бұрын

    @@kunimitsune177 it was just over £20m over the 3 year period that they breached, if it was £70m a year over spend they would have man city's squad 🤣

  • @johnhoban4016
    @johnhoban40166 ай бұрын

    City were not exonerated

  • @ianofliverpool7701
    @ianofliverpool770118 күн бұрын

    Loss of all honors won during period of rule braking, relegation, owners forced to sell up. Everton got away with a lite punishment, they could've been relegated .

  • @Bedoroski
    @Bedoroski4 ай бұрын

    If the FA were brave enough, then the punishment shouldn't be some short-term consequences. Examples need to be made to warn those who dare to inflate the market, and cause imbalance in the world.

  • @Bedoroski
    @Bedoroski4 ай бұрын

    I could see them facing a heavy charge, but can't be relegated. Politicians are very influential, with money they can rewrite the truth, say 2+2=5

  • @kaspernielsen9149
    @kaspernielsen9149Ай бұрын

    1: Demote that 5 leagues 2: 100 mil pounds in fines 3: 10 years without European football.

  • @huwgrossmith9555
    @huwgrossmith95556 ай бұрын

    National League North. Bye bye owners, bye bye club!

  • @craigmullen9046

    @craigmullen9046

    6 ай бұрын

    Club will always Exist regardless!!!

  • @huwgrossmith9555

    @huwgrossmith9555

    6 ай бұрын

    @@craigmullen9046 depends on money. There have been plenty disappear Bury for one.

  • @christianhuseby842
    @christianhuseby8426 ай бұрын

    city where not exhonerated by cas, they where let off on a stupid technicality. how about letting someone who has researched this topic do this video? my god the levels of ignorance this poor kid displays

  • @dalmarcampbell1148

    @dalmarcampbell1148

    4 ай бұрын

    How about you read the CAS document and stop spreading false narratives

  • @Bee_Bill287
    @Bee_Bill2876 ай бұрын

    I think what should have happened fairly is City should have been instantly banned from playing meaning every game is a bye and 3 points automatically given to the other team until City go to court and fight it out, because in the meantime they go on winning the PL another 2 times & countless cups robbing other teams of the financial win fall they would get plus the glory of wining. It would be amazing how quickly the whole thing would get sorted if it was done this way. IF city are found guilty then they should have to pay every team that came 2nd to them over the years the money they would have got for wining, that is only fair, plus all the players that would have gotten win bonus or new sponsorship deals.

  • @mana3735

    @mana3735

    4 ай бұрын

    hahaha. you're so bitter and jealous. Pathetic. you're embarrassing yourself and the club you support.

  • @leemcphail634
    @leemcphail63410 күн бұрын

    So ultimately City are saying to the panel, if we have done something wrong it's on you to find the paper trail that can be used as evidence. City however, will have covered their tracks to make this very difficult to do. If City are ultimately found to be guilty and then submit an appeal against any sanctions imposed, City will be responsible for the collapse of the football league. The PL and EFL in essence are damned if they do and damned if they don't and this is all going to play into Citys hands. I expect that there will be a big points deduction but one that allows City to have a chance of remaining in the PL and also fines and possible transfer embargos.

  • @johnnybad1986
    @johnnybad19866 ай бұрын

    Think there’s is a very real possibility they don’t accept the punishments, break from the league, take Newcastle & Chelsea with them, PSG, Marsielle, Real, Barce, Ac, Inter have plus the 4 Saudi clubs. Give the others an ultimatum they can’t ignore. Sure Liverpool and Arsenal can stay in the PL but what is it when the Super League has all the best players? It’s on a knife edge

  • @alfredthegreat9543

    @alfredthegreat9543

    6 ай бұрын

    I get what you're saying but if England's 3 biggest clubs, Man Utd, Liverpool, and Arsenal stayed in the PL the Super League would be a joke with little credibility. Clubs that left would be isolated, and their fans would only watch them play at home as continous European games would be too expensive. Plus atm a top side plays 50+ games, no Super League could do that.

  • @memofromessex
    @memofromessex6 ай бұрын

    It's the work experience kid! (I take the piss, but I like the videos)

  • @brianmckee2267
    @brianmckee22674 ай бұрын

    I honestly don't think they should be deducted points or relegated. They should be fined an astronomical sum and the club should be turned to public ownership or broken up entirely.

  • @quickklik
    @quickklik6 ай бұрын

    there is no appeal from these charges

  • @kangamangus95
    @kangamangus952 ай бұрын

    Burglar B had a difficult childhood and will get away with a warning and some counselling

  • @sichinook3793
    @sichinook37936 ай бұрын

    I read that if they are expelled from the PL then it entirely up to the EFL if they will accept them into the set up.

  • @yatesy117

    @yatesy117

    6 ай бұрын

    Hmm yes that'd take them a nano second to decide back in 1998 City coming to town was everyone's cup final and would generate big crowds

  • @kunimitsune177

    @kunimitsune177

    6 ай бұрын

    Correct. Given the EFL slightly depends on the PL for money, the PL can put pressure on the EFL to refuse city altogether.

  • @TheKalaxis
    @TheKalaxis6 ай бұрын

    A truly massive fine to be split between all 91 other clubs would be good say £445 million. £5 million per club would be nice. Except Chelsea. Their share should be used to boost grassroot facilities. On top of an enforced relegation and stripping of titles.

  • @sabinasabina2010
    @sabinasabina2010Ай бұрын

    Never will happen, their money means they are beyond laws. Man City it is all what is wrong with football.

  • @kaspernielsen9149
    @kaspernielsen9149Ай бұрын

    What about the fraud charges that could land a few of the staff and people around City in prison? :)

  • @MrsRhianne1996
    @MrsRhianne19965 ай бұрын

    So only 3 charges then?

  • @TheNemocharlie
    @TheNemocharlie3 ай бұрын

    They aren't guidelines, them's is RULES....

  • @felixleiter5092
    @felixleiter50925 ай бұрын

    As a former footballer it's all aboot money

  • @GlennMaleya-sm1oh
    @GlennMaleya-sm1oh3 ай бұрын

    What if city is found guilty and relegated,does it mean pep will be removed as coach b'coz I can't imagine him coaching a team in the 2nd division

  • @chiefmegadeth
    @chiefmegadeth5 ай бұрын

    So what's happening with them? If Everton already got 10 points deducted, WTfuck hasn't Man City been affected already. Time for them to pay and get relegated or lose a lot of points for the next few years.

  • @pevvex4452
    @pevvex44526 ай бұрын

    Unfortunately money will talk …. and they won’t get any punishment except money where money won’t hurt them. Sad but true

  • @user-gb3uh5hm4h

    @user-gb3uh5hm4h

    6 ай бұрын

    Hope they don't relegate City. City and Liverpool are the only insurance for Arsenal never winning the PL anytime soon.

  • @yatesy117

    @yatesy117

    6 ай бұрын

    Everton don't generate anywhere near the money City do in modern era so to expect City should get a severe punishment x100 is a bit ridiculous tbh

  • @georgestuart8656
    @georgestuart86565 ай бұрын

    Two words, Arab money.

  • @TheNemocharlie
    @TheNemocharlie3 ай бұрын

    Oh, com' on. Let's have some baseless speculation at least...

  • @Roycon14
    @Roycon145 ай бұрын

    FFP is supposed to make it possible for Leicesters to compete. Otherwise we’d have state owned oil clubs winning the league every year. Oh wait we do lol. Joke if city aren’t relegated to non league, anything else would be light

  • @BMXcapitalsfan
    @BMXcapitalsfan6 ай бұрын

    Only way to truly punish them that has a legitimate effect would be European competition ban and transfer ban for 4-6 years. Relegating them does nothing they will obliterate every team and be back in 1 year.

  • @craigmullen9046

    @craigmullen9046

    6 ай бұрын

    Not if we are Relegated to League 2.

  • @Hadar1991

    @Hadar1991

    5 ай бұрын

    @@craigmullen9046 With arguably the best academy in the world City would he back in Premier League in three seasons.

  • @fab-ian
    @fab-ian6 ай бұрын

    With the way these things work, if they are relegated, it'd be once the appeal has taken place and in the subsequent season, they wouldn't yoyo about. But also with the way these things work, Man City will bribe their way through it 😂

  • @TexasCannons
    @TexasCannons2 ай бұрын

    Love 442 but this is so weak.

  • @tysonmichael4039
    @tysonmichael4039Ай бұрын

    Jack schpielish

  • @garygriffingriffin8414
    @garygriffingriffin84143 ай бұрын

    Its like being a millionaire and told you can't have a nice car because you have got to much money fuck the premier league ctid 😮

  • @robertfletcher4065
    @robertfletcher40652 ай бұрын

    Don't make me laugh you are dreaming if this happens. Not a small Club. Never liked this Club.

  • @INCINERATEDD
    @INCINERATEDD3 ай бұрын

    So who’s at fault here ?

  • @plopplop1984

    @plopplop1984

    2 ай бұрын

    man city top brass … shiek mansour

  • @zariygo
    @zariygo6 ай бұрын

    Yes, it could, but someone will just open their wallet and everything will go under the rug.

  • @TB-bb7uy
    @TB-bb7uy6 ай бұрын

    Send City down to Division 2

  • @alaskanmalamute101

    @alaskanmalamute101

    6 ай бұрын

    Vanarama hopefully

  • @kunimitsune177

    @kunimitsune177

    6 ай бұрын

    *non-league

  • @TheFugazi3973
    @TheFugazi39736 ай бұрын

    They'd just wait for the result of the appeal before any relegation took place. It would be be "relegation pending the result of any appeal"

  • @nickchivers9029

    @nickchivers9029

    6 ай бұрын

    Yep. Bingo.

  • @dannybartlett4225
    @dannybartlett42254 күн бұрын

    settled out of court booooo hoooo gutted and wrong again loool

  • @stub6378
    @stub63786 ай бұрын

    28000 pages? Who wrote that? An ai bot?

  • @JerryReith

    @JerryReith

    6 ай бұрын

    Who said all those pages were written on.. 🤔

  • @anarwally
    @anarwally6 ай бұрын

    If City is found guilty, and I don't trust they will be even if they did break the FFP rules, I doubt they will be severely punished. They are too big a club with too much money. It won't be fair, especially after what Everton got, but that's how it is.

  • @FozzQuaker
    @FozzQuaker6 ай бұрын

    Hopefull they get done for it, and get done hard, unlike UEFA, the EPL doesnt have a Statute of Limitation and will investigate anything, no matter how historical... Everton broke the rules, they should be punished, dont think anyone disputes that, but the Premier League need show some consistency and punish Man City and Chelsea.

  • @Thebigaye799

    @Thebigaye799

    6 ай бұрын

    by that logic every big team must be punished then

  • @FozzQuaker

    @FozzQuaker

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Thebigaye799 Doesn't matter how big a club is, if they break the rules, then they should be punished

  • @kunimitsune177

    @kunimitsune177

    6 ай бұрын

    **PL* If you can't get the name of the league right you don't get an opinion.

  • @FozzQuaker

    @FozzQuaker

    6 ай бұрын

    @kunimitsune177 You referring to me there??? If so, what league name have I got wrong???

  • @kunimitsune177

    @kunimitsune177

    6 ай бұрын

    @FozzQuaker Obviously. And I literally just told you. The top flight of English football is called the Premier League. Full stop. Not the bloody epl.

  • @nigl2807
    @nigl28076 ай бұрын

    wont be a fine. even if a few charges stick, remember Evertons punishment has set the expectations if case is successful.If Everton's 10 point sticks for 1 charge, Man City's...well they might as well be sent down to Conference league. They really should have set a time limit (i have 0 idea about legal stuff) on how long Man C had to throw a defence together (cynical part of me says loopholes as they only won at Cas based on a technicality right?)

  • @kunimitsune177

    @kunimitsune177

    6 ай бұрын

    There is no formal defence. It's not a legal case.

  • @The_Original_KL
    @The_Original_KL5 ай бұрын

    Ahhh we meet again, this guy used to work for city absolutely no shame eh making this sensational video.

  • @iyibu01
    @iyibu016 ай бұрын

    How about Chelsea? who started the era of inflated dubious unlimited spending at EPL? Why is city charged and not chelsea?

  • @kunimitsune177

    @kunimitsune177

    6 ай бұрын

    **PL* If you can't get the name of the league right you don't get an opinion.

  • @kunimitsune177

    @kunimitsune177

    6 ай бұрын

    Chelsea are literally under investigation as we speak

  • @ARJ.109

    @ARJ.109

    6 ай бұрын

    @@kunimitsune177epl

  • @iyibu01

    @iyibu01

    5 ай бұрын

    @@kunimitsune177 Chelsea fan

  • @mana3735
    @mana37354 ай бұрын

    Reading the desperate comments form very bitter, jealous rival supporters warms my blue Mancunian heart :@)))) The fact that you're HOPING and WISHING that another club has cheated or done ...anything wrong...just to ease the pain, is shameful. City have really hurt some people with the brilliant football. Your own clubs aren't matching so you have to blame something.

  • @msnbarca23
    @msnbarca236 ай бұрын

    first to view the video 🤩

  • @jamesmcalinden8718

    @jamesmcalinden8718

    6 ай бұрын

    The editor 💀

  • @JerryReith

    @JerryReith

    6 ай бұрын

    the Video editor… @@jamesmcalinden8718

  • @rcaquaria
    @rcaquaria6 ай бұрын

    Haaland to Newcastle then aye?

  • @craigmullen9046

    @craigmullen9046

    6 ай бұрын

    😅😅😅

  • @gweilojohn
    @gweilojohn6 ай бұрын

    On the consequences re: restructuring, I imagine EFL would simply refuse to admit them for a year in case the appeal is won. Then any burden would be purely on EPL, perhaps resulting in a 21 team season.

  • @kunimitsune177

    @kunimitsune177

    6 ай бұрын

    **PL* If you can't get the name of the league right you don't get an opinion.

  • @jag456

    @jag456

    6 ай бұрын

    @@kunimitsune177 EPL = English Premier League mate. People in glass houses and all that....

  • @connortren1853
    @connortren18536 ай бұрын

    The Qataris will pay them off

  • @hkbeats9552
    @hkbeats95526 ай бұрын

    siuu second

  • @graemecreegan6749
    @graemecreegan67496 ай бұрын

    This would be a better video if you could use the correct terminology. You keep saying ’charged’ when you mean ‘convicted’.

  • @patdog383
    @patdog3836 ай бұрын

    I think you have miscalculated the amount of paperwork City would have to produce, it is certainly not 115 times more than Everton produced. Everton supplied 3 years of paperwork. What would City' need to produce? 5 times as much documentation maybe, That would equate to 15yrs worth give or take. The EPL have dropped the biggest gonad in football history. They'll be destroyed if compo becomes the norm.

  • @kunimitsune177

    @kunimitsune177

    6 ай бұрын

    **PL* If you can't get the name of the league right you don't get an opinion.

  • @plopplop1984

    @plopplop1984

    2 ай бұрын

    city haven’t been handing over their books or not all that is requested … they keep fighting against the system for legitimate standard accounting examination

  • @hiyashinsu17
    @hiyashinsu176 ай бұрын

    Even if City falls to the National league, chances of them climbing back up and winning something is higher than Spurs or Arsenal winning the UCL 😌.

  • @user-gb3uh5hm4h

    @user-gb3uh5hm4h

    6 ай бұрын

    Hope they don't relegate City. City and Liverpool are the only insurance for Arsenal never winning the PL anytime soon.

  • @hiyashinsu17

    @hiyashinsu17

    6 ай бұрын

    @@user-gb3uh5hm4h 😂

  • @dianering4708
    @dianering47086 ай бұрын

    All clubs will be the same, there is no way all these clubs can be spending millions upon millions every season and only charge fans and such peanuts at the gate to watch these entertainerswho are on millions of pounds also in wages every week, it does not add up. Someone is doing some good book keeping and brown envelopes. it is how this corrupt world works. Money talks, and it speaks many languages. Where's my money is the loudest advocate.

  • @theskankingpigeon965

    @theskankingpigeon965

    6 ай бұрын

    Bulk of the money comes from revenue distributed from the sale of TV broadcast rights, not gate receipts.

  • @kunimitsune177

    @kunimitsune177

    6 ай бұрын

    @theskankingpigeon965 Debatable and depends on the club. Arsenal just a few years ago still had the majority of their then ~£400m revenue coming from match days. They have ~45,000 season tickets at north of £1k each so that's ~£50m/season before even considering the 15k more expensive tickets or club level or membership fees (£30/year) or all the money those people spend on pies, beer & merch on a match day. It's pretty close for now.

  • @Redeye196513
    @Redeye1965136 ай бұрын

    The EPL receive sooo much ££££ from City, they would be shooting themselves in the foot to bin them down leagues. Never going to happen, unfortunately.

  • @kunimitsune177

    @kunimitsune177

    6 ай бұрын

    **PL* If you can't get the name of the league right you don't get an opinion. No they really don't.

  • @ARJ.109

    @ARJ.109

    6 ай бұрын

    @@kunimitsune177epl

  • @nickchivers9029
    @nickchivers90296 ай бұрын

    They werent found not guilty by CAS, so sick of this perpetual lie.

  • @XavierJAlexander

    @XavierJAlexander

    6 ай бұрын

    They avoided the hearing by timing it out

  • @nickchivers9029

    @nickchivers9029

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@XavierJAlexander yes I know

  • @dalmarcampbell1148

    @dalmarcampbell1148

    4 ай бұрын

    You are the liar here. Theybwere found not guilty with a few of the charges time barred . Those charges were timebarred before iefa brought them so thats negligence on uefas part. Read tue fcuking CAS document before you speak rubbish.

  • @dengartist5934
    @dengartist59344 ай бұрын

    city were in no way exonerated at all, they got off on a time bar

  • @JD-mc3bl
    @JD-mc3bl6 ай бұрын

    I would rather bet on city taking the pl to court & punish them for their crimes & receive some millions for their inconvenience. With the amount of oil 💰 of Saudis, the FA won't even touch them & even the Pl & UK (who's current economic condition is not good) can't afford to lose all that oil💰. So unfortunately, city & Newcastle ain't going anywhere.. 🙄

  • @Kalarandir
    @Kalarandir6 ай бұрын

    I seriously doubt any effective actions will be taken over City's charges. If they did leave the league, then City will simply make a move for the Super League. I would say the same for any top 6 team in the league as they are untouchable with the specter of the Super League hanging over it like the Sword of Damocles.

  • @praisekingjesusforever5494
    @praisekingjesusforever54946 ай бұрын

    John 11.25.26 Jesus said unto her I AM the resurection and the life he that believes in me though he were dead yet shall he live and whosoever lives and believes in me shall never die believiest thou this AMEN

  • @nabri-nfg3262
    @nabri-nfg32626 ай бұрын

    We'll still win the prem in the championship

  • @shamsham1983
    @shamsham198323 күн бұрын

    Next Rui Pinto please expose city’s rubbish.. they always breathing 115 FIFA rules

  • @Drunken_Master
    @Drunken_Master6 ай бұрын

    And this kid has the audacity to call himself a Manchester City fan.

  • @Th3L0wK1

    @Th3L0wK1

    6 ай бұрын

    ‘City fans’ don’t exist and you’re an embarrassment to football.

  • @The_Original_KL

    @The_Original_KL

    5 ай бұрын

    He literally worked for the club and is now making sensational videos for 442 on what COULD happen. He was flown around the world with the club doing social media and now were here.

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