Gil decided to come with facts. Kobe did the same thing the only difference is Kobe had owners willing to spend money so when he threatened to leave if they didn’t get better pieces Jerry buss went and made moves. The owner of the Cavs said “nah win with verajao, Eric snow and ira newble” 😂

@DaFactsNoNonsense1713

8 ай бұрын

Kobe NEVER LEFT LOS ANGELES

@phillipsosa3353

8 ай бұрын

@@DaFactsNoNonsense1713 I never said he did I said he threatened them he was gonna leave if they didn’t upgrade the team. He even looked for houses in Chicago and Detroit but the owner made moves to keep him and spent money

@DaFactsNoNonsense1713

8 ай бұрын

@@phillipsosa3353 That's not true = everyone knows LEBRON lied to CLE, then went to MIA = LEBRON's never been the "hero" in his stories

@phillipsosa3353

8 ай бұрын

@@DaFactsNoNonsense1713 it’s literally true, it’s a pretty known fact the owner didn’t wanna put up the money to get another superstar to Cleveland. I mean every basketball analyst knows he left because they expected him to play with scrubs.

@GervmanJr

8 ай бұрын

​@@DaFactsNoNonsense1713reading is fundamental

The difference between MJ and Kobe career vs Bron career. The Front Office.

@lewismoultrie5548

8 ай бұрын

Facts.

@ahmadoubarry574

8 ай бұрын

Front office and also hall of fame coaches

@joreljebre

8 ай бұрын

@@ahmadoubarry574yeah… 1 coach and 1 system in particular

@swindlegfi8382

8 ай бұрын

@@joreljebre the great Triangle coached by Phil Jackson the greatest.

@swindlegfi8382

8 ай бұрын

@@ahmadoubarry574 right, and what’s the common denominator between Kobe and MJ championships…Phil Jackson. The only common denominator in Bron’s championships is Lebron himself.

People wanted him to be like Dame and stay on a team that wasn’t really invested in winning….

@rolandbridgeman5450

8 ай бұрын

True he also said I. The 08 Olympics he was gonna try to team with dwade but it was rumors until it happened lebrons still a goat

@PA-zt6xu

8 ай бұрын

Yep they wanted Lebron to be like Barry Sanders stuck on a trash team carrying them until he either breaks down or retires winning nothing so they could swear he wasn't as great or a challenge to their heros in MJ and Kobe. Smartest decision Lebron made was getting the F out of Cleveland and going to Miami.

@SampDeLeon

8 ай бұрын

That’s why I don’t blame these players…it’s a business at the end of the day….forget how or what a FAN has to say about it

@PA-zt6xu

8 ай бұрын

@@SampDeLeon amen on that Breh!!

@mobetta2092

8 ай бұрын

Yeah. No one talks about how Jordan left after the 1998 championship when he learned the Bulls were no longer contenders without Scottie and Phil

Gil gets it! But every time someone brings this up, we just LeBron lovers. It was so clear and people refuse to acknowledge it.

@cj9133

8 ай бұрын

This is cap. Dan Gilbert never been afraid to spend money. He just couldn’t get people to want to come

@TOoLoUd89292

8 ай бұрын

Been saying this why he left the owner was the biggest reason left but the haters just wanna say Bronsexuals

@Dylan-zi9ou

8 ай бұрын

They’re too busy with lebrons meat on their mind, always bringing up dick and glazing smh

@kingspin14

8 ай бұрын

@@cj9133so how is that lebrons fault then he shouldnt be penalized for it my nigga thats the point cuh yall hold it against him when his organization couldnt keep the players he wanted and couldnt help him what was he supposed to do waste his best years losing? 🤨

@krillin876

8 ай бұрын

Let me explain it to you the Cavs had the highest payroll in the NBA they were not afraid to spend money . Also the mortgage their future to win now they gave up all their draft picks and their young talent to get players that were already established

Gil is absolutely correct.. Everyone was a free agent, and Cleveland was not getting anybody.. So he pack up & hit the road..

@Aquajoda

7 ай бұрын

What about him leaving Miami to go back? Or him leaving Cleveland to LA? Lol

@Aubknowball17

7 ай бұрын

@@Aquajodawell that big 3 really wasn’t a big 3 after year 1 if we being honest but definitely not by 2014 , wade and Bosh was cooked. They both combined to average the same amount of points as bron in 2014 finals. Look at that 2018 cavs team and ask yourself about going to LA

@epicmarco514

7 ай бұрын

@@Aubknowball17spit straight facts!😂

@crimsoncoconut2421

6 ай бұрын

@@Aubknowball17 bosh sacrificed the biggest for wade and bron to succeed. what are you talking about average in points, wade handed the keys to lebron so he can be himself yet wade still avg 20+ppg. you speak like the only reason they lost to the spurs is because they became washed when they run into the bobcats(4-0) in the 1st round, nets (4-1) in the 2nd round, pacers (4-2) in the conf. finals, then they lost to the spurs when they faced real competition, they got obliterated and now you have the gall to say its wade and bosh's fault. fckouttahere young blood. if we go by your metric, its also lebrons fault they lost to an old ass mavs team yet you skipping out that fact by saying 'after 1 year' huh? LMAO.

@Malik67627

6 ай бұрын

@@crimsoncoconut2421what’s your point tho ?

He left after the CAVS decided to not trade JJ Hickson for fucking Amare Stoudemire.

Gil said nothing but the truth. The Cavs couldn’t surround Bron with anyone better than Mo Williams, and he’s supposed to win with that??? Over the opportunity of winning multiple championships with D-Wade and CB4???? Anybody still holding that against LBJ is an idiot, that’s a common sense decision that doesn’t need much thought. He would’ve been choosing to lose had he stayed in Cleveland. Haters leave logic at the door EVERY time in these debates.

@mauricewells7838

8 ай бұрын

Larry Hughes, Antwon Jamison? Plus Mo made a All star team

@topnotchtajmahal7216

8 ай бұрын

@@mauricewells7838Larry Hughes overrated I’m tired of ya acting like he was a star he wasn’t, mo Williams was a replacement all star not on the first 12 voted and atwaun jamison was washed when the cavs traded for him and SHAQ as well there front office f*d up not trading for prime amari stoudamire cuz of jj hickson lmfaooo

@mauricewells7838

8 ай бұрын

@topnotchtajmahal7216 you tripping. Larry Hughes was a damn good player, and so was Jamison, stop with excuses. Hell when LeBron got to Miami D-Wade and Bosh's numbers went down, so I guess they were overrated and past their primes too? Kevin Love, same thing. Everybody that was somebody before they got with LeBron had to adjust their games, (Bosh I believe was the first to admit this) and in doing so their numbers suffered. Notice how every time he loses its somebody else's fault or he needs more help.

@jlsmith-hs8rf

8 ай бұрын

Just quit comparing him to Mike then. Mike didn't go join people even though he had his problems with mgmt as well. Mike NEVER had a Dallas series. And once again never had to join people, make their agent make trade request or none of that type of mess.

@SoCalOnTheBeat

8 ай бұрын

@@mauricewells7838no he wasnt larry hughes come on now the shit yall say to discredit bron is sick man i get tired of yall haters and negative shit yall say bra that team was trash im from cleveland i watched every game bron made that team!!!!! damn yall literally hate everything about this man go be great yo damn self lame ass nigga

As much as MJ hated Jerry Krause, the one thing he cannot say was Jerry didn’t build a great team around him. Imagine if MJ’s second best player, was anyone from the first Lebron Cavs team? Him making the Finals would be a feat of itself.

@Marian-ng3do

7 ай бұрын

MJ actually had that issue too . from 84 to 87, he had no help, no decent coach. The help came gradually - Phil Jackson, then Pippen, then Kukoc then Rodman. MJ could of never reach the finals alone with price Celtics and prime Pistons legendary teams in the same conference.

@simonhowell4486

7 ай бұрын

​@@Marian-ng3do Yeah but Jordan couldnt and didnt win a playoff series with that team of scrubs, let alone carry them to the finals. In fact, without Phil or Pippen, Jordan achieved nothing

@keithfranklin957

7 ай бұрын

@@Marian-ng3dothat was all Orchestrated by Krause…he was cream of the crop as far as gm’s go at that time

@CDodger24

7 ай бұрын

​@@simonhowell4486how come Bron still lost in 2011? It's the equivalent of Jordan having Drexler and Barkley in his team and still losing. That Mavs team was deep but they're old as hell too.

@PA-zt6xu

7 ай бұрын

@@keithfranklin957 yep Krause was great at finding talent. Folks give MJ the props but fail to realize that Krause flipped that bulls roster twice. Once with that first bulls championship team and a second time with the second bulls championship team when MJ came back. The first 3 peat team and second 3 peat time were totally different with MJ and Pip being the only holdovers. Krause flipped Oakley for Cartwright. Flipped olden poly nice for pippen. Got grant and pippen in the same draft. Drafted Kukoc and convinced him to come to the states. Traded Stacy King for Longley and traded Will Perdue for Rodman. Like I said without Krause and Reinsdorf properly running the bulls organization MJ would have won nothing.

That cavs owner said he is selling out the arena even when losing so he never felt the need to invest more. Mj never had to leave but lebron did.

@PA-zt6xu

8 ай бұрын

MJ was blessed that he had Krause who was great in finding talent in Pippen, Grant, BJ Armstrong and Kukoc and not being scared to trade for veteran help in Cartwright (who was traded to Chicago for Oakley). Then who also was smart enough to hirer arguably the greatest coach since Auerbach in Phil Jackson. Without owner Jerry Reinsdorf beings mart enough to hirer Krause and get out the way so he could work his magic MJ wouldn't have won anything in the NBA believe that!

@OrondeBranch

8 ай бұрын

That’s how the Lions were for YEARS. Selling maaaaad tickets so why would the owners even try? It’s a money grab for most of these owners and I get it…..it’s just business. But damn….

@FirashAdryan

8 ай бұрын

⁠@@PA-zt6xufinally someone said it. Krause had a great eye for talent.

@KelvinAdams.

8 ай бұрын

​@@OrondeBranchthats the point in most of businesses if You don't invest on upgrades or better personal You lose money

@crystalizedExposed

7 ай бұрын

@@PA-zt6xu fr krause was all time in finding talent

This is why I love Gil.. he speaks nothing but facts.. when the front office folded on MJ, he retired🤷🏾‍♂️ #theLastDance

@jmrayos9930

7 ай бұрын

Melo was not a free agent.

@WMB6022

7 ай бұрын

Absolutely. Mike said it himself he wasn’t trying to rebuild at 35. Krause said “Michael is more than welcome to stay”, but wanted Phil gone no matter what…which in essence was like getting rid of Jordan (and the rest of the key players) because he didn’t want to play for another coach

@NOFOCKYOU

6 ай бұрын

Those 2 things are not the same. MJ was loyal for a whole career vs lebron who gives up on his team mates every year and says he has no help and then leaves or gets them traded. Like he even fucked over miami when he left cause that year he made them draft shabazz napier (who was 100% his choice) in round 1 who sucked and then said the team sucks and left back to cleveland.

When they didn’t trade JJ Hickson for Amare Stoudemaire, I knew it was over.

i have been saying this was the reason... not just ring chasing. That was the right move at the right time. Respect.

They way gil said " i ain't spending no money right now" let me know he really be telling people that 😂😂😂😂

Give that man a damn job he is the best, Gil know his shit

Team drafted A. Bennet #1 overall when no one was talking about him going that high. 🤷🏽‍♂️

@reimeralgabre2986

8 ай бұрын

It's because that front office is doodoo.

@Ariusfiveduece

8 ай бұрын

Who?🤨

@themanwhocantbemovedbyatru1988

7 ай бұрын

​@@Ariusfiveduece the number 1 draft pick on Gianni's draft year. That MF only averaged 2 ppg in his 3 seasons in the league lmao.

@Ariusfiveduece

7 ай бұрын

@@themanwhocantbemovedbyatru1988 That's my point....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@NewYork0riginal

7 ай бұрын

I remember when he went #1 and thought to myself "Damn Cleveland just wiped their ass with that pick"

bro next to him be watching netflix on his laptop while gil is talking

He needed to go to a spot where they knew how to win. Pat Riley won as a player, asst. Coach, head coach and executive...who better to learn from? He learned that in Miami and brought some of that back to Cleveland.

@isaacford7172

7 ай бұрын

What did he learn in Miami while you dummy you still don’t get it after listen to Gil you still believe it was the heat culture although they bought the championship each time but is the heat coach?😂😂😂😂😂😂

@MoonMoon-fx1op

7 ай бұрын

Facts

Momma James was a free agent too I remember that being a factor.

@soolthegreat1581

8 ай бұрын

She was tryna head West

@ibrahimabdi6285

7 ай бұрын

Y’all foul for that 😂

@yungggbloodd3281

7 ай бұрын

The main detail everybody seeming to forget

Now PLAYERS wield all the power🙏🏿

Thank you Gil. These F-in reporters know this but refuse to speak on it.

@zensaken

8 ай бұрын

...this right here

@angelsimmons5384

7 ай бұрын

​@@zensakenHe's right but ppl that don't have a clue how the head office runs things all they did was put Bron down like he doesn't have a right to go & take care of his family, The Bulls had a good front office & was willing to spend money to get ppl

@18brandon92

7 ай бұрын

No one is mad at LeBron or Durant for leaving their respective teams. It’s about who they teamed up with.

To hear common sense at this ooo t is refreshing. Everybody else talks about it like it’s pick up basketball.

People got spoiled with teams that only had 1 star in the 90s, suns, rockets, Knicks, etc that they couldn’t understand why one guy couldn’t stop super teams. It’s like they forgot that the lakers and Celtics ran the league in the 80s with insanely stacked rosters

@megakdre100

4 ай бұрын

That the thing that people forgot if we look at the 80 to team won either the magic laker or Larry bird celetics both teams where stacked for their time

Thank you

Like what Ichiro said, i would punch myself in the face if i had to go to Cleveland

@nyonthemap617

8 ай бұрын

Here is a completed list....I would rather be in Cleveland than Oklahoma, Utah, Washington, Charlotte, Denver, Seattle, Detroit, Indiana, portland, Minnesota, memphis, Milwaukee, and Phoenix and I might be missing one. Point is don't act like Cleveland is one of these constant hot deserts, cold climates or rainy or country or secluded

@PA-zt6xu

8 ай бұрын

Ichiro as smart as heck!

@a-a-rondavis9438

8 ай бұрын

​@@nyonthemap617literally all of those cities that you named are WAY better for living and playing lol.

@nyonthemap617

8 ай бұрын

@@a-a-rondavis9438 u clearly never lived in any of them. I lived in 4 of the places including either too rainy, too rural, too m7ch crime, too country, or too secluded. It's a joke to say no one wants to live in Cleveland. Fact is more people move away from rainy Seattle, crime ridden DC, secluded Denver, country okc. While more people do move to Cleveland few hours from NY, Canada, chi town and more. Not o mention its just not racist, cou try, rainy, rural or as much crime.

@lonnieknight9187

8 ай бұрын

​@@nyonthemap617as someone who lived in a few of those places i totally disagree

people who hate on bro wont agree but who cares at this point anymore 🤷🏽‍♂️😭

The truth matters, I never knew this!

Thank you!!!!

I say it all the time Cleveland went and got Antwan Jamison and tried to advertise him as some savior.

@bimalpudasaini3576

7 ай бұрын

18 points a game average isn't good enough for Lebron. Dirk had Jason Terry averaging below that. Kobe had Pau averaging about that.

@BigKing17

7 ай бұрын

@@bimalpudasaini3576You act like the NBA is a 2vs2 game. Including the rest of the cast, No, No Antwan Jamison definitely wasn't enough. The point is every year Cleveland would scrape the free agency barrel for old washed players while pocketing tons of money. Lebron turned the Cavaliers from a hundred million dollar company to billion dollar company, get him some help!

@oli551000

7 ай бұрын

​@@bimalpudasaini3576well kobe also had guys like ron artest and andrew bynum who provided a few less points but defense in return. Dirk also had jason kidd to provide high iq playmaking and tysom chandler to provide defense and a whole lot of rebounds. My points is, it takes a team to win a chip. One antwan isn't enough

@donekoburnside1546

2 ай бұрын

@@bimalpudasaini3576pau also led the team in blocks , could pass at a high level and was a double double machine . Antawn was not 7 feet tall either plus pau a hall of famer and was younger than Kobe twan was older than bron twan was like 34 years old when he went to Cleveland bron was 25 . Kobe was two years older than pau

Let’s put it in a real life terms Lebron basically was a relationship that wasn’t providing him anything in return

@PA-zt6xu

8 ай бұрын

No a better example is Lebron was working at a trash small badly ran company and they wanted him to do everything and work 120 hours a week with no overtime pay. Running him into the ground and Lebron turned in his resume and got with a fortune 500 company where he had less work, got the same pay, had people to help him and he only had to work 40 hours a week. Who the heck doesn't want the second job when compared to the first job. Common dang sense!

Appreciate the clarification

Thank you, Gilbert!

I dont think anyone blames bron for leaving its just the way he did it. The decision and the tv flex with the big three didnt look good, dwade even said so.

@MoonMoon-fx1op

7 ай бұрын

Exactly

@GodlyODB

7 ай бұрын

It was for charity, idk why yall hold that so deeply in yall heart

@MoonMoon-fx1op

7 ай бұрын

@@GodlyODB deeply in our heart? Yall niggas are dramatic lol

@megakdre100

4 ай бұрын

@@GodlyODBbecause they hate that lebron was smart with it left and gave a charity money while doing so

Magic asked to be traded, Kobe was out the door in 07, Timmy was out the door in 01 i believe, mike was ready to bounce. Giannis now. When your team is showing they do not care about winning, all the greats will be ready to leave fast. Not just Bron.

@Qred09

7 ай бұрын

Giannis talking bout leaving dame?

@RedCGaming12

7 ай бұрын

I guess everybody can’t be Steph lol

@demo8119

7 ай бұрын

@@Qred09he told his front office he’s not resigning unless they prove they’re dedicated to winning, that’s why they went and traded for dame in the first place

Good assessment..

Yep straight facts ... Gil tells it like it is 😊😊

Melo wasn’t a free agent that summer..

@BigBananaBall

8 ай бұрын

He could have been

@anthonyrios7424

8 ай бұрын

Facts, he had signed his 5-year max extension. He wasn't aware of what LeBron, Wade, and Bosh were planning.

@chizchism84

8 ай бұрын

That is not true Melo said a long ago he should’ve gone to Miami with them but the Knicks threw the whole check book at him 🤦🏾‍♂️ 😂 the opportunity was there he just took the money and I can’t say I blame him 🤷🏾‍♂️ no ring but that boy got paid 💯

@AZ-gz8md

8 ай бұрын

​@@anthonyrios7424LeBron, Wade and Bosh let it be known they were teaming up way before it happened. People just didn't know where.

@tristansteed824

8 ай бұрын

@@anthonyrios7424 Naw bro he was aware . It was supposed to be Melo, Wade and a Lebron …!But like you said he wanted the extension. If he didn’t extend he would’ve been available when the other 3 guys were. He ended up forcing his way to NY the following season..

He forgot to mention HE (LeBron) was also a Free Agent and had played out his contract …

And thus the famous statement, “I’m taking my talents to Miami!” 😃👍🏽

THANK U SOMEBODY FINALLY SAID THE TRUTH THANK U GIL!!!

Everyone at the time was overlooking the teammates. They wanted Lebron to do it alone. Crazy to think back, & go, “Man. We were stupid.”

people don’t realize this isn’t the weak as 90’s era, you need a big 3 to win, the fact that lbj reached that deep in the playoffs as the lone star against detroit, celtics, nets with kidd and carter, wizards with 3 all stars, magic with mvp caliber dwight all those teams against him in the east will frustrate any star with unsupportive owner/management!

@edwardnigma4087

8 ай бұрын

Gianni’s didn’t have “a big 3”, hell Kawhi didn’t have one in Toronto either, the Celtics put 3 guys near the end of their careers together, throughout that year the talk was “can the Celtics keep up this pace and still have enough come playoff time?!” Obviously LeBron needed help, but there’s a difference between help and just grouping together with other top 5-10 players and then on top of it still losing to the Mavs who also didn’t have a “big 3!” Wade got hurt and LeBron ran back to Cleveland to play with Kyrie and Love, again teaming up with top 5 - 10 players. Then he leaves there and joins AD who was probably at that time a top 3 player. The league was boring as hell when KD went to GSW, you knew before the season started it was going to be a Cleveland/GSW finals and even then the league stepped in to help LeBron get a ring when they suspended Draymon Green!

@marksines1246

8 ай бұрын

@@edwardnigma4087 bucks and raptors had multiple all stars calliber, if that’s your logic then dirk also didn’t have, no difference it’s just called a fit around a star

@edwardnigma4087

8 ай бұрын

@@marksines1246 there’s no difference between a fit around a star and top 5 superstar players around another superstar, lmao, that’s great logic, not!!!!

@marksines1246

8 ай бұрын

@@edwardnigma4087 LOL you didn’t get it, both bucks and raptors had at least 3 stars, even the dirk dallas, LoL that was never the talk about the celtics they weren’t at the end of there career, still averaging best numbers on there career specially allen, kg led the league in rebounds a year before and pierce was averaging 25, no issue about the pace, nice try kiddo!

@edwardnigma4087

8 ай бұрын

@@marksines1246 it was Pierces 11th and Garnetts 13th year in the league and both averaged under 20 a game for the first time in their careers! I’m a Celtics fan and I absolutely know that was the talk, that’s a fact! You want to talk about surrounding cast and mention the Bucks and Mavs. Are you really going to compare having Jrue Holiday and Middleton to Bosh and Wade, Kyrie and Love, and then AD, all in their prime and at the top of the league? The Mavericks had another HOF on their team, Jason Kidd, but after the Nets Kidd where he didn’t even average 8pts a game. The other two scorers beside Dirk was Jason Terry and Caron Butler and another guy on his last leg Shawn Marion, were any of them players EVER considered a top 5 player? You’re just a LeBron apologist, him and KD took the bitch route to getting rings!

Gil be spitting fire 🔥 love dude all he need is a beat 😂😂lol because all facts on a beat is all that matter.

Good point

100% TRUTH!!!

The League wouldn't give Kobe Chris Paul...even late in his career. Then LeBron comes right behind him and starts loading up as usual. Some people still don't see what's going on. smh.

@Dukethedaywalker

8 ай бұрын

Stop it

@zensaken

8 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@topnotchtajmahal7216

8 ай бұрын

Shut the hell up the lg did enough for the lakers allowing that sorry a** pau gasol for kwame brown trade happen cut the non sense

@RonGianitus

7 ай бұрын

Fuc is u talmbout 😂😂

Stats are for players. Championships are for teams. A few ways to put a Championship team together but you need to have pieces that fit.

Amen brother. It took Gill to tell the truth. The media then squashed this.

Did Delonte West actually smash LeGMs mom?! Is it actually confirmed cus that’s next level 😂

@a-a-rondavis9438

8 ай бұрын

Yep lol

@HunchoColeman

8 ай бұрын

Yea that’s another big reason for why he left

@jonesm313

8 ай бұрын

No

@xxxxxJAYMILLZxxxxxxx

8 ай бұрын

@@jonesm313 you spelled yes wrong 😭

@xxxxxJAYMILLZxxxxxxx

8 ай бұрын

@@a-a-rondavis9438 dude smashed his mom and he did nothing about it 😂😂 I’ve heard it all

NOBODY ever talks about that.. that fool told Bron we good just make sure I keep making this money..Bron skated on him and the hate games began

Great point

Gil actually said some real shit on this one!!

Wasn't no superstar player willing to go to Cleveland as a free agent. Foh Gil. He's also conveniently leaves out they didn't have the money to spend because LEBRON had them spending bread on the guys he wanted. He did the same e act shit again when he came back from Miami. In what world was Tristan Thompson worth $80 mil??? LeBron stans rely try to act like this guy wasn't playing puppet master with roster at all n the shit is annoying.

@xxxxxJAYMILLZxxxxxxx

8 ай бұрын

Also D west was smashing mama dukes which is wild lol

@fresh2def23231

8 ай бұрын

Exactly ❤

@kevinhousen2791

8 ай бұрын

That was all after he came back.

@jasonc5709

8 ай бұрын

THIS! I just posted this too. LeBron's Cap Hold took up almost all of their Cap space. They only had a couple million remaining and Gil says, "What, you not gonna spend no money?" and dropping names like Yao, Wade, Melo, as if they had the room to sign them. Fact is Lebron wanted Shaq so management signed him. He wanted old ass Jamison, so management got him. He wanted Mo Williams, so management got him. THAT'S what put them over the cap and it was all done to satisfy Lebron. It didn't work so Lebron bounced on the roster that was covered with his fingerprints. Stop this revisionist crap.

@xxxxxJAYMILLZxxxxxxx

8 ай бұрын

@@jasonc5709 everyone knows LeGM is a coach killer and a team killer. We don’t just call him LeGM for the F of it.. dudes been pulling the strings behind the scenes at every time since he got in the league. It hasn’t been so behind the scenes tho these last few years 😂

I love that Bron is finally starting to get his flowers

Dayum Son!!! I got to give him props on that 1!!!

People really expected him to beat a super team Celtics and a dynasty spurs team with Mo Williams as his wingman

People always trying to act like Lebron had no help. Yes individually they didnt have the best individual accolades but collectively they were the best team. He just got his tail whipped and run outta town. Lebron apologists are such jokers 😂

@blanktrigger8863

8 ай бұрын

To say a lottery team was collectively the best team in the NBA is itself hate apologetics.

@nosasamuel2843

8 ай бұрын

​@@blanktrigger8863ikr, they were shit without him, went from, was it the number one in the east to drafting kyrie the next year after he left But according to homeboy here, they were collectively good

@illicitburn9386

8 ай бұрын

Shut yo ass up. I'm tried of niggas trying to make it like Bron didn't give 7 years to that team and they gave him old shaq he left and came back to give Cleveland it's only ring get off his dick and watch some basketball

@MagicBound22

8 ай бұрын

Casual

@mikebears4954

8 ай бұрын

Larry Hughes and mo Williams while Carmelo got AI and Chauncey Wade got Shaq Kobe got gasol the Cavs was playing and thought he was dumb enough to be loyal while they line they're pockets at his legacy s expense you sound dumb

Dude is obsessed with making excuses for Lebron 😂

@MrSteve-of2hj

8 ай бұрын

clearly you don't know how algorithms work. all I can say is you're here, you watched, you commented. Gil 1 You 0

@sylence2012

8 ай бұрын

@@MrSteve-of2hj that made zero sense pertaining to my comment :) did I say anything regarding having to watch the video or complaining on being shown the video? NOPE. Haha you’re dumb and that makes me laugh

@fresh2def23231

8 ай бұрын

​@MrSteve-of2hj cap you took the L cuz you rushed to watch a short popping up is equivalent tona Ad

@sylence2012

8 ай бұрын

@@fresh2def23231 again you proved how stupid you are because you’re trying to insult me for watching an nba related clip THAT YOU ALSO WATCHED then you got triggered by my comment regarding it because it involves your king :) you bronsexuals crack me up.

@SoCalOnTheBeat

8 ай бұрын

u a cornball shut uo this facts yall just say dum shit because its bron

That's part of the reason but not the only reason

So many people have no clue to look at the move like that.👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

Gil's "lying" as usual = EVERYONE knows that LeBron left CLE because HE WANTED TO "WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS" & realized that the only way he was going to accomplish that was by "joining" D. Wade/Chris Bosh in MIA & that almost didn't work

@parkboyju

8 ай бұрын

He wanted to win , they wasn’t bringing nobody in to help win. Wtf am I staying for 😂 y’all ain’t the brightest.

@atSlickBoiChris

8 ай бұрын

That’s what the media told you. And u sheep believe it as usual

@N04HC14RK

8 ай бұрын

@@parkboyjuhe just claimed bro was lying then said exactly what bro said 🙄

@marquesekj

8 ай бұрын

There was a time they could've traded jj Hickson+ for amare..they said jj upside was too big to make that deal...when lebron left they traded him..Dan gilbert is racist(he snitched on himself accidentally before) he hated/hates lebron and didn want him having "power" and didn like the credit he was receiving for resurrecting that dead ass franchise

@marquesekj

8 ай бұрын

And before u ask about the racist part.... Remember when he wrote that letter with the obvious racist undertones? When he caught heat and was being labeled racist he said something like "that's nowhere near as bad as what my friends said" ..birds of a feather right?

Man you can tell when someone is on lebrons payroll 🤦🏿‍♂️come on Gilbert 🤓

@DaFactsNoNonsense1713

8 ай бұрын

💯🎯

@parkboyju

8 ай бұрын

Cleveland native and this is facts. They wasn’t tryna bring nobody here them early Lebron years.

@marquesekj

8 ай бұрын

So he's lying?

@atSlickBoiChris

8 ай бұрын

@@parkboyjuthey couldn’t bring anyone to Cleveland because it’s fucking Cleveland, No all start players are going to Cleveland willingly

@davidcrescencio4483

8 ай бұрын

Bruh ain’t watch one episode Gil ain’t on nobody payroll u wish

Preach!

Also that he tried getting ray allen 2 years prior for Ray to decline and go to Boston the following year. Larry Hughes was the 3rd choice. It was ray allen then michael redd.

He took the easy way out. He will have to live with that for the rest of his life. The Cavs publicly stated that they couldn't pursue anybody because LeBron kept them hostage with not signing early.

@SwatBrown36

8 ай бұрын

Are you referring to the first time he left or the second. Because neither of those equations work to your point.

@PAPEROUTEMPIRE5

8 ай бұрын

facts bruh just lettem just stat his opinion 🤦🏽‍♂️😭🤣😂

@nicholascole2613

8 ай бұрын

Compare Cleveland to Chicago or Los Angeles as a franchise. Did they play around with Jordan or Kobe, or did they get players to help those guys out? Talk more about while LeBron was committed and bought in they did absolutely nothing to help him out. It's crazy how people will hear something through media and formulate an opinion solely off of that alone.

@mindyourbusiness1934

8 ай бұрын

@@SwatBrown36 First time. Yes it was publicly stated on ESPN at the time that was the case. That is why the Cavs were so frustrated

@mindyourbusiness1934

8 ай бұрын

@@nicholascole2613 It takes time to get help. Jordan didn't get Pippen until his late 20s. Kobe was lucky enough to be underrated and the ln Drafted to a winning team from the start but didn't get help when he needed it for about 3 years+ when Shaq left They had a great TEAM. They had the best record in the league. He had all the help he needed. Kobe and MJ would of stayed

Gilbert keeping it 💯 ya'll. 😢😢

bruh i learn more from listening to Gilbert than i do from years of ESPN lol crazy

BIG FACTS 👏👏👏

Facts he had no help his first run in Cleveland

This was a good loop because it took me three times to figure out where the video started lmeo don’t judge me I’m driving

I thought Norris Cole was LeBron for a sec.

There was that and some other issues with a teammate they did sign

They got him Perkins 😅

He had a Robin in Varejo tho..

"If he don't get nobody he don't win a championship" Most accurate thing ever said about LeBron.

@crazykiller-qh9jn

6 ай бұрын

You could say the same for mj 84-87 still exists

@MaiChael127

5 ай бұрын

​@@crazykiller-qh9jnYeah, but he didn't go up and leave for LA or Boston to join Magic or Bird. He developed a then average Pippen to a Robin to his Batman. And not to mention, he survived and thrived on the physicality of that era (eg. "The Jordan Rules").

@crazykiller-qh9jn

5 ай бұрын

@@MaiChael127 wtf does going to another team have to do with anything. He didn’t develop anyone that’s the hall of famer coach he had. If mike was in brons shoes he would’ve done the same thing

@crazykiller-qh9jn

5 ай бұрын

@@MaiChael127 the physicality of the era you mean the bad boy pistons and that’s it’s. The whole era is known for this tough era when it was only really the pistons. You watch tape of other teams and just straight trash defense just like todays age

Preach sir 🙌

Finally someone said it

Tony capped out 😂😂😂

Cleveland to Miami to Cleveland to Los Angeles. Make it make sense.

The CODEX OF NBA INFO... Gilbert Arenas MEMORIZES and MEMORIZED key points from the NBA

Big facts

Look how different this owner was and how the new suns owner is. Suns owner balled out on all their players

They had that shit planned out. The tv special announcement and everything.

Damn those clutch sports checks must be nice lol

As a resident of Ohio for almost 45 years, I never had a problem with Lebron leaving Cleveland. And I never took into account the free agency. You’re a world wide Superstar and you gonna spend your whole life in the midwest?! (And I enjoy living here.)

A dead clock is righy twice a day lol

FACTS!!💯💯

Who wanted to come to Cleveland please tell me

I was so mad when they didn’t do that Amare trade. All over a guy who they traded a year later for a 2nd round pick 🤦🏾‍♂️

When Kobe asked, he got a prime Pau Gasol, a young athletic wing in Ariza, and a still solid Ron Artest. When Bron asked, he got a banged up Jamison and 50 yr old Shaq.

Gil rarely makes sense, but he was on point with that hot take

Nobody ever talks about why he left 💯

I've never heard a player say I wanted to play in Cleveland at that time.

Literally, everyone has talked about it

Gil let's be honest.man even though he was the king of basketball at 18 people in ohio knew he was going be a goat but the non believers was waiting for him to fail.

I’m not a LeBron fan but I’ve been trying to tell people this for YEARS. LeBron was basically Cleveland’s cash cow and they never tried to improve his situation because they thought he’d be the golden goose forever. Then LeBron did what was best for his career. Miami is a big market team, a lot of money is there but that’s just the icing on the cake aside from winning. I’ve seen another comment here mentioning this but Kobe also had a similar situation but difference is, Lakers were willing to get who he needs. Kobe told the Lakers that if they don’t get him the pieces he needs, he’ll walk and that’s a very logical stance. Difference between these two teams is that one of them was willing to risk assets to get what their franchise player needed.

The bulls got Scottie, Dennis, new coach bunch of shooters for MJ

Gil forgot that is on video that Lebron and wade couldn’t stop Kobe on their own.

Bro that is what I’ve said countless times. I’m glad someone with a bigger voice put this out there acting like Bron wanted to leave his home town. He didn’t but they didn’t get him the help he needed to win. Same with Kobe, he was going to leave LA if they didn’t get Fisher Gasol Bynum Areza and Meta

Going to Miami was never a stain on his resume, it was just the first page of chapter 2 in his story

@joshualalrinngheta1575

6 ай бұрын

Ya but losing in 2011 was a stain

@MrNorwegianguitarist

6 ай бұрын

@@joshualalrinngheta1575 How many finals have you been too?

@joshualalrinngheta1575

6 ай бұрын

@@MrNorwegianguitarist if it is not tge nba plenty of em

@joshualalrinngheta1575

6 ай бұрын

@@MrNorwegianguitarist and lol i just said it from a fan perspective, other legends (from bball or other sports) never lost in a game (the most important game of the year😂) while performing that bad and even got outplayed by a role player... Even if they lost their performance still struck to us fans... But lebron lost and is one of the most bad players in the 4th🤣

@joshualalrinngheta1575

6 ай бұрын

@@MrNorwegianguitarist yr just hating and tryna target me, say something that is relevant🤣🤣

That's true