Chef, Dr Mpofu Walsh is cooking lately.

@mzekenamanjearistokasi6832

3 күн бұрын

A Y E Y E!

@ckngivdtb32665

3 күн бұрын

He is, he has grown so much as a person. Intelligent young man. I don't see his father anymore when I see his face He is his own person. It's definitely a Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh experience 😂

@joshuabrown5130

2 күн бұрын

Cooking up lies and racism... following in his dads footsteps spreading hate in SA

Dr Sizwe I have seriously been ignorant on this issue, thank you for the education. I have only heard polarizing takes on this issue. I wish everyone can clearly communicate this issue the way you have. You are starting to really win me over here.... :(

Land reform is a must no ifs or buts. Without it there shall be no peace 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲

Each episode of yours has its own emotions but this one got me really emotional because land is justice in its entirety.

@makhadziparousiaphusewa1367

3 күн бұрын

Feeling robbed 😢

@thomasprogli3372

3 күн бұрын

Nobody will feel that justice has been served. Go to all the countries were this idea has been executed. If failed its objective miserably every time. This is a political tactic to pull your heart strings. You will vote parties that will give you this empty promise and use your trust to satisfy their needs. I know you do not believe me. But do your research.

@thomasprogli3372

2 күн бұрын

That is the objective. It addresses your emotions. Fact is that you will never get that feeling that the injustice has been corrected. Ask Zimbabweans! Ask Eastern Europeans! Ask Russians! Yes also in these countries land was taken away and “returned”. This fairytale is exactly that … a fairytale.

@joshuabrown5130

2 күн бұрын

@@makhadziparousiaphusewa1367 You can't get robbed of something you never owned. Don't stress man this guy spreads his dads EFF lies.

@HamandisheMpofu

2 күн бұрын

@@thomasprogli3372 👏🏿

This was EXCELLENT. I've understood the backstory behind land reform for the first time ... really. Sizwe, you're doing great.

No new government that comes to power will last, as injustices of the past need to be reconciled in order for SA to truly move forward.

@thomasprogli3372

3 күн бұрын

Please explain how these injustices will be reconciled. How will 20 year old Busisiwe, who is living in Inanda, be reconciled. Also give us a rundown where she will be in 5, 10, 20 and 50 years after the land reform has been executed to your satisfaction.

@kentclark9616

3 күн бұрын

I’d love to see this explaination?? Explain who gets land and who doesn’t?

@ayakhasokabo8816

3 күн бұрын

@@thomasprogli3372 What I'd propose since I'm not a professional is that, let's say Busiswa is a 20 yr old who's has aspirations of starting a business. She wants a 100 000 loan for example but the banks don't want to give her such a loan because she lives in a shack and doesn't own land as collateral. Banks tend to see blacks as a risk when giving them loans. But they will give you a loan knowing that if you don't repay it, they'll just take your land. If she becomes successful in her business, surely things might turn out better then if she didn't have land to begin with. But this is all hypothetically speaking and again I'm not a Professional in these matters, but what history has shown is that most of the land owned by whites, wasn't at most given to them but was taken.

@ayakhasokabo8816

3 күн бұрын

@@kentclark9616 Who doesn't? What do u mean who doesn't. I think what you mean is how do we redistribute the land equally should be your question. And also those who's land was dispossessed look do your research on the 1913 Land Act and before, during the expansion of of the cape colony maybe you'll know what I'm talking about.

@kentclark9616

3 күн бұрын

@@ayakhasokabo8816 so no explaination of how to do this?

ANC is Captured,they'll never implement the land distribution policy. We need to take matters into our own hands and close down the country for them to act on this matter.

@Lungelo_K_Moshoela

3 күн бұрын

I love this revolutionary position you've taken however the conclusion is misplaced. Yes we need to take matters into our own hands but why should the incumbent government be given the responsibility to be the main agent of that change? They failed to effect change in this matter but we still expect them to miraculously change their position when we've seen plenty of times that they will never expropriate land even with a parliamentary majority. So if we take matters into our own hands, we need to keep it in our own hands.

@joshuabrown5130

2 күн бұрын

@@Lungelo_K_Moshoela You don't seem to know much about history or economics but one thing I'll agree on is we need to get rid of the government and central bank. They just been stealing from us all for the past 200 years. Politicians also need to go, they spoke so much kak already to get votes look how confused black people are about land. All seem to think its some magical unicorn that will change the lives of all 60 million South Africans. No idea how or why but this is the narrative.

@stv0112

2 күн бұрын

imagine 1 getting in your yard, forcefully takes your car and when asked why they didn't so, they act like victims n their response is u didn't use your car well

Honestly speaking the ANC had 65% in parliament after 1994 elections..and an opportunity when the EFF gave them their vote to do this..the comrades were too excited to have their hands in the govt purse..and shares in BEE deals they neglected the work that needed to be done..there should have been an audit of all land ..private and govt and then establish how it came to be in the hands it was or is in..then work done to correct the injustices.. The ANC was bought ..given shares and BEE deals and blinded by the trappings of money..they did get farms for themselves (phala phala..DD Mabuza farm in MP..Terror Lekota's Farm)..and many others not mentioned and unknown.. they were not incentived to do the right thing..but just lined their pockets we all know this..

@joshuabrown5130

2 күн бұрын

You are barking up the wrong tree, these influencers are drunk man. Everyone who owns land in South Africa bought it, no one got free land that's a bs narrative spread by Malema to get votes. This smwx guys dad is the chairman of the eff so he spreads the same kak. Don't believe me? I'll give you actual history not made up propaganda.

@zethembeshandu6858

6 сағат бұрын

Sbu Ndebele in PMB, while he was KZN Premier. Thandi Modise in NW! The list goes on and on. Where/why did Tokyo, Ramaphosa, Motsepe, Macozoma, etc suddenly get the mines and BEE shares? Lately, Trevor Manuel, Ramos, Phumzile Mlambo-Ngcuka sit on the Boards of the BIG Banks, so the story continues. That is why the GNU IS AN OPTION FOR THE CURRENT ANC!!! We, the poor voting majority, no longer matter, as long as they silence us with food parcels, substandard RDP houses, R350 grants, etc.

I'm glad the land issue is "back" on the table. Many more of these please. After all, Juge John Hlophe said we must talk about land at least 3 times a day.

@markriordan9010

3 күн бұрын

...Yes...hey, why not ? And then throw in apartheid, White monopoly capital, settlers, Oppenheimers & Ruperts, Stellenbosch mafia....do you see how regressive your lives are when all you do is hover in neutral (actually reverse!) and then wonder why you're not moving forward. And that's when the blame-searching starts.

@GaragePie22

3 күн бұрын

He's impeached and crooked! Why you listening to the corrupt?

@joshuabrown5130

2 күн бұрын

There is no issue. Trying to steal someone's property is stealing there's not much more to it really. But you want to talk about it so come on, talk to me.

Dr! You and the team are doing the most on these episodes , intelligent, unbiased and informative. This has become one of my favourite podcasts.

@thomasprogli3372

3 күн бұрын

Unbiased? You make me laugh.

Land as always being the source of power , without land, you have no power or humanity. Without land, your culture and your dignity is inquestion.

@philjo16

3 күн бұрын

88% of whites don't own land

@thomasprogli3372

3 күн бұрын

That is demonstrably wrong and easily falsifiable. According to your logic the countries or people who have the most land are the most powerful. Russia, Canada or Australia are surpassed by many countries. Germany is a fraction of Russia and they would destroy them in a one on one fight. The richest and powerful men like Elon musk own hardly any land.

@joshuabrown5130

2 күн бұрын

Explain this to me please. Land with nothing on it in the middle of nowhere is very cheap, so what is problem?

@thomasprogli3372

2 күн бұрын

@@joshuabrown5130 I find it very interesting that my comments are not showing here.

@blacknile1354

2 күн бұрын

@joshuabrown5130 that is the problem. You are putting a price on land. Only a price. You can not see the deeper value. The connection to that is more value than money

💔😓Our history makes me weep🥺😭🇿🇦

@martharadebe9465

3 күн бұрын

I'm also feeling deeply sad. Our black people don't understand this and the mainstream media makes such that people know about the history

@helenduplessis4166

3 күн бұрын

So does mine... humans are an odd bunch.

@helenduplessis4166

3 күн бұрын

That said, I live now and need to ensure that future generations don't suffer the same.

@wn9521

3 күн бұрын

Id worry more about your future

@lm_b5080

3 күн бұрын

​@@martharadebe9465 what should've happened is more provinces should've had a set up like Ingonyama trust. most of Eastern Cape. big parts of Free State, Limpopo, North-West, Mpumalanga - all these areas were traditional areas for our people if you look at history

Thanks for the insights, Sizwe. I have gained a lot of knowledge through this episode. I have read "The Land is Ours" by Advocate Tembeka Ngcukaitobi and still need to get "Land Matters." I think it would be great to have Advocate Ngcukaitobi as your guest one day to dive deeper into these insights.

00:02 Land reform in South Africa is a long-standing and contentious issue. 02:43 Land Reform in South Africa revolves around three pillars: restitution, redistribution, and tenure reform. 08:06 Redistribution aims to share land more equally among black South Africans. 10:55 Tenure reform and the difference between restitution and redistribution in South Africa 16:07 Most of South Africa is commercially owned land 18:27 ANC's failure to redistribute land in South Africa due to lack of political will and financial constraints 22:49 Property rights, expropriation, and compensation in South Africa 24:57 Compensation must reflect balance between public interest and affected parties 29:16 Restitution process has not brought back land into the hands of people. 31:26 Challenges in land reform process in South Africa 35:54 Scholars like Ruth Hall provide insights on land reform

@Cherry-pu4mx

3 күн бұрын

Restitution has been settled but slowly. Thts just a lie qnd who cares if the people prefer to have money than the land. Do you think they know how to manage tht land?

@ashleyadams5207

3 күн бұрын

We will take our land back by any means necessary. First by peaceful means, but if peaceful means don't find resonance with those who continue to occupy our land and refuse to return it, then will resort to any other means left to us.

@nomkhosiprecious9435

3 күн бұрын

YOU DOING THE LORDS WORK

@dianathompson8794

2 күн бұрын

So shall we chop up all.the land in South Africa up into 65 million pieces, so that every black person has an equal share?. Just remember it will then be impossible for any farming to take place, so no food production. Places like Checkers and Pick nPay will close, losing millions of jobs.. South Africans will have to rely on international donations of food aid. The economy will collapse, naturally. But everyone will have his equal piece of land, so all good.

@dianathompson8794

2 күн бұрын

@@ashleyadams5207 very childish, warmongering attitude. Basically what you are saying is that you want war.This will destroy this country totally. Is that a mature endgame to strive for?

Assalaamu alaykum brother. Shukran for the channel. I've learned so much, and my interest in politics has increased over the last month due to SMWX. May Allah reward and increase you and the team 🙏

@thenyloncurtain

3 күн бұрын

❤

Why is it a problem when 70-odd percent of land is owned by government. Why dont they do what is needed?

@user-bz7vt6gm6o

2 күн бұрын

QWe vwant the land the white people aere possessing its too much for the minority, they should be ashamed of themselves , the people of the continent are living in squalers.

@marcellekravitz2411

Күн бұрын

...well that simply wont do if the aim is to Equalize everybody...u will own nothing but be happy BS..besides the Eaters are after the minerals to hel with citizens..but that said They clearly dont comprehend the international laws ..thats why ramaphoza doesnt push for land besides that would mean the king has to distrubute the Trusts 3mil hectares which is a big monthly income..natrually thats not going to happen..

In the course of my work, I have travelled extensively in the Eastern & Northern Cape. Farms that were re- distributed have been left fallow. The new owners had insufficient funds to buy farm equipment, seed, etc, & no expertise in large scale farming. Farmers provide the country’s food. Farms left to die put our food source at risk. How is this overcome?

@ohlangeni

3 күн бұрын

That is false. You are talking about land returned under Restitution. That land is owned by Community Trusts which cause lack of financial and toil (work) investment. Banks do not provide loans to trusts. Thus, substinence farming becames common farming in such land

@sharonadams9721

3 күн бұрын

@@ohlangeni Then why is the land covered in natural weed etc & machinery sitting in fields in various stages of rust & ruin?

@wangatshivhase8381

3 күн бұрын

@@sharonadams9721 because unlike the freeburgers of the Voc and the British they didn’t get 3-12 year tax exemption, seeds and farming implements from the government in the same way our colonisers did, change that and they’ll up their yield and make better use of the land.

@ohlangeni

3 күн бұрын

@@sharonadams9721 Farming requires finance, usually bank funding. Community trust cannot obtain bank loans. Commercial farmers in SA receive State grants for mechanisation and in-put costs. Community trusts are not commercial farmers. Commonly, one or two dominant trustees obtain long-term leases (unfair to other beneficiaries) who could then be considered farmers in the district and thus aided by the local Department of Agriculture. That is as far as Black people can meanifully participate in commercial farming

@sharonadams9721

3 күн бұрын

Thanks everyone for explaining all of this to me👍

Land repossession is the term that should be used

@joshuabrown5130

2 күн бұрын

How do you repossess something you never owned in the first place.

It was stolen with no compensation. Rewrite the laws and take back without compensation

@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub

3 күн бұрын

Stolen from who ? The Khoi San ?

@dianathompson8794

3 күн бұрын

Shaka stole more land than anyone else did in the East of South Africa. Why are we not discussing him here?

@caven7056

3 күн бұрын

​@@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub khoi San are black africans

@caven7056

3 күн бұрын

​@@dianathompson8794whataboitism

@erickdavid2412

3 күн бұрын

How far back must we go. How do we know who was the original occupants and who are their descendants

Dr you are on fire my brother.If somebody steals your car you must pay him/her to buy gas so that he/she can bring car back to you.ANC ngamasimba wabantu serious.

The problem with land reform and tenure is in the finer detail: Here are some examples: - It is against the interest of the Department of Agriculture to subdivide agricultural land into smaller portions. This means the creation of smaller portions is discouraged and, in their opinion, will have a negative impact on food production and security. The consensus is also that one farmer with more land and resources can farm more effectively than more smaller farmers with the same area of land devided between "smaller" farmers. - If you want to create tenure in rural areas (i.e. agricultural land not near towns) you have to create serviced erven. The servicing of this erven must then be (1) funded and (2) maintained by government. You will often find a dispute between the spheres of government because such municipalities where the reform takes place does not have the financial capacity to formalize, service and maintain erven, and the other spheres do not want to be burdened financially with the maintenance. This will remain an issue even if land could be expropriated without compensation. In short, the problem with land reform is not as one-dimensional as it is made out to be. The challenges relate more to facilitation, not policy. Land use and development lies at an intersection of a variety of interests which are many times at odds with each other and we have not made any headway in this regard.

@esscce

3 күн бұрын

Have you looked at small farms around SA to confirm like in KwaZulu-Natal, this food security thing is rubbish we have pretty of food, I see food being wasted, shelves are full, The issue is people want to monopolise food and use scare tactics like food scarcity issues to their benefit

@nicalgrobbelaar6804

3 күн бұрын

@@esscce The issue relating to food security and the subdivision of agricultural land is not my opinion or view, it is the view of the custodians of the Department of Agriculture. I speak from experience.

@daniestrijdom8248

3 күн бұрын

You answered a question I had about the tenure subject. It does seem like the lowest hanging fruit and a good starting point but if the recipients are given an asset of property without the government providing basic services to that property then it diminishes the value of the transference substantially. It really is a difficult problem to solve.

@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub

3 күн бұрын

@@daniestrijdom8248 Farms generally don't have services so I don't see what the problem is. My patch of land and most of those around me are not provided with municipal water or Eskom electricity. Some of the bigger farms have electricity and they pay an arm and a leg just for availability. There is a skip in the local village for waste removal. There are already people living on communal land so giving title deeds makes no difference to service requirements.

@daniestrijdom8248

3 күн бұрын

@@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub Excellent - this is great input thanks. It means that there exists a possibility of getting a deed without getting the full-monty of government maintenance. For interest sake, do you farm with bees (capensis is bees right?)

The "Why" question can be answered by what happened in Zimbabwe. The devastating effect the sanctions had on this country still haunt the political elite in South Africa .

@arkuis

3 күн бұрын

This is an inconvenient issue that does not fit Sizwe's racialised narrative.

@BeatsByZetan

3 күн бұрын

We can't ignore our history, that's why when you're talking land in South Africa, it will be racialised whether we like it or not.

@thomasprogli3372

3 күн бұрын

They always claim they are doing it for "their" people but in the end they are only doing it for themselves. This issue is also not one of ethnicity. You can see the same thing happening in the Ukraine. Russia is only taking back what was once theirs and Putin will give it back to the Russians. Pinky promise.

@tam1641

3 күн бұрын

This is your problem . If u don’t move away from the system and governance u will never be free. Also you can’t go to heaven without dying. These ppl spilled blood before they got what they wanted. What makes I think you will talk them out of t?

@Obang-kt7du

3 күн бұрын

We've to stop this cowardice. Africans are as human as Europeans and thus deserve to be treated with the same dignity, but we still act as subordinates to European masters. Everything Africa does must fit the scope of European elites like a slave trying to please his master. Look at the immorality that Africa has imported from Europe, now LGBTQ agenda is beginning to thrive in Africa, and we allowed that due to economic sanctions from Western elites.

In Zambia the land issue was dealt with decisively by the founding father Kenneth Kaunda and the UNIP govt. Apart from traditional land , all the land belongs to the state and is vested in the President. Land is leased to the holder for 99 years. Zambia avoided the nonsense in Zimbabwe. Seems South Africa wants to take the Zimbabwe route.Many white Zimbabwean commercial farmers moved to Zambia and have set up farms in the fertile Mkushi farming block.

@uncleTee2023

3 күн бұрын

Remember the land in Zambia was not contested. Southern Rhodesia was the Jewel that is why there was UDI and war to take back the land independence. Zambia did not have to fight for it. Thought I should highlight the differences and the claims of whites to the land.

@innocentc.3521

3 күн бұрын

Same problem in zambia, except the white farmers there lay low

@ntombikambule3728

3 күн бұрын

No John Nchansa, South Africans want a South African solution. Looking in hindsight is what enables Zambia to say their execution was better. At the time of taking the decision it was not clear if the decision would prosper. What is annoying us South Africans is that government is not implementing decisions that we agreed to. First, we need to identify those who must be recompensated. Verify if they can farm or if they are willing to sell to the government with the understanding that their future generations will not reclaim the land. Second, identify those who want to farm but never owned land, get them to sign the 99year lease, land belongs to the state. Thirdly then deal with those who just want a piece of land for residential purposes. We are not idiotic just lazy or too afraid to implement the decision. This a management issue mainly performance which can be addressed through performance agreements.

@ivanmark9525

3 күн бұрын

@ johnchansa so white Zimbawean farmers have 99 years lease in prime Zambian agricultural land. Kenneth kaunda really solved the land issue as you say

@johnchansa

3 күн бұрын

@@ivanmark9525 Not only that late President Mwanawasa invited the displaced white farmers to come to Zambia much to the annoyance of Robert Mugabe. Tobacco crop production in Zambia tripled in 1 year.

Hey Fam. Land does need to be restituted and redistributed, for economic access reasons: Land can open up so many opportunities for entrepreneurs and small/medium business owners and for people to fend for themselves, especially the Youth instead of them just chilling at corners. Secondly, land was taken away from people guys, from the Khoi/Khoe-San-Nama, the Bantu/Nguni, and Coloureds, denying this just makes society building in RSA even harder, and really impossible. This will lead to us never being able to be a functional, happy, cohesive, united, and equal nation; therefore our social ailments will never leave us. Don't think short term, about your house, your job, your small business - think about the whole nation

@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub

3 күн бұрын

We had a Land Restitution program. I think the figure quoted was that over 90% of recipients chose money over land. Possibly many of them used that money to buy urban properties or farm land in other ares. We just don't know. However , the reality is that most people , black and white , don't want to farm. That is not to say that I don't think there should be any further restitution or redistribution. It's just not close to our biggest priorities at the moment. I do think that the issue of communal farming should be looked at. In today's world it is horribly unproductive. Those farming communally on State land should be given the option to get Title Deeds for a portion of that land. This doesn't cost the country much but the beneficiaries benefit enormously. For the record , while black people bore the brunt of forced removals , Indians and whites were also removed from some areas. Particularly in the Transkei region white farmers had to give way to black farmers so that the region could become independent.

@KungFuMouse

3 күн бұрын

Also lets go look at profiting farms that was part of food security, that was given back. How many of them still work today?

@TickleMeChelmno

3 күн бұрын

You mean like Zimbabwe? Lol

@EFF2UnionBuilding

3 күн бұрын

@@TickleMeChelmnoThe colonialists are always trying to give example of Zimbabwe to scare black South Africans from land restitution. Zimbabwe suffered because of neocolonialism. It was used as an example why whites cannot be held accountable for any wrongs committed during colonialism. Zimbabwe is today free from white supremacy today and that is their freedom. If white South African are really interested in the so called rainbow nation, then they should by all means try to fix the unjust laws of land dispossession of the past. However we all know the dual citizenship the majority of the whites possess which allows them to not really care about the welfare of their fellow black citizens.

@corinnevanjaarsveldt6087

3 күн бұрын

Wow....thank you for explaining this...this is so vital for everyone to listen to and understand❤

Mandela and his friends,Tambo,Sisulu etc were not man of honour.ANC has never changed.

@refiloenkabinde2935

3 күн бұрын

They never changed anything 😢

@shanegraham9077

3 күн бұрын

I said that long ago that he was a traitor to his people

@Kalushi-w4t

3 күн бұрын

Nothing stopped any of your forefathers to be the heroes you so wish that the Mandela's would've been! Fact is thee baton has been passed wena wenzani? What's stopping you from being the hero???

@dianathompson8794

3 күн бұрын

They were great men. South Africa owes them a huge debt.. Have you studied the Rivonia trial?

@karlsinclair9285

3 күн бұрын

@@Kalushi-w4t nothing is stopping them. south africans have become comfortable being ruled by their whites adjacency, they are now voting for the white DA...

To us who like before listening to the content 😊 because we know DR Mpofu is going to deliver. My go to place for South African political analysis. Thank you Sizwe, usi Nganga

The government PLAS has failed. Black emerging farmers were leased state land at very high rates, with little financial and extension service support. Without long term lease or tittle deeds ,farmers could not access funding, and lots of farmers are now in debt to the state and are threatened with evections. Most have spent more than 10 years on the land, most of them have no chance of being employed because of age, others are over 60 years of age. The state must look into this group of farmers amongst the important land issues.

Your faithfulness to truth and transparency is in a class of it's own, even when the topic is difficult. I wish more people were this honest. As Maya Angelou says, “History, despite its wrenching pain, cannot be unlived, but if faced with courage, need not be lived again.” You show this courage with a refreshing yet unimpeachable grace

If most of the land belongs to Government, Commercial, and Agriculture, its obvious why the ANC doesnt act decisively. They have majority stakes in the first two, and you simply cant mess with agriculture when the very fabric of societal South Africa depends on it to eat and work.

Great one. I think when people think of land redistribution/restitution they think of what happened in Zim ( the violence part). Maybe political parties invested in this need to detail step-by-step how it will happen, in order to dispel concerns and fears.

I thought about this a lot. I think restitution can be solved the following way; (Ignoring all the land in governments/trust's hands) 1) Incentevise farmers to give a portion of their land in exchange for tax breaks. Land will be reserved for farm workers, agricultural students, and those who can't prove that they were disposessed and want to work the land. This will prevent the politcally connected to highjack it like with BEE. 2) Land can't be sold for 20 years (this will prevent people from claiming land and just selling it back for a quick buck, preventing generational wealth/ownership). 3) Government to subsidize startup farms in exchange for cheaper prices to sell goods locally (this will bring down food costs for all). 4) Hire existing farmers to train new land owners and pay them mostly in commission, this will prevent box ticking exercises and make sure farmers do everything for new land owners to succeed. 5) Open up cannabis legislation and reserve licenses for small and medium farmers to prevent corporate monopoly. 6) Title deeds NB NB NB! This is how I think you can do it without creating food insecurity or social instability.

@Cherry-pu4mx

3 күн бұрын

A tax break us not going to be an incentive lol The land us worth far more than any tax break possibly given haha

@Cherry-pu4mx

3 күн бұрын

So if the land goes to ruin within those 20 years they can never sell it and our agriculture has tp suffer for it?

@Cherry-pu4mx

3 күн бұрын

Government already subsidizes farms but they dint have a high success rate because the subsidies are either not enough or the people working the land have no knowledge on how to

@Cherry-pu4mx

3 күн бұрын

Our government has hern againt alchol tobacco f9r years now. They are not a fan of cannabis

@johannel9982

3 күн бұрын

An article by the Bureau for Economic Research in September 2023 stated that 19 million hectares of commercial farmland , 24.7% of all freehold agricultural land, have been transferred away from white ownership, so don't come with falsified statistics.

First to comment! 🙌🏾 Thanks Sizwe for the robust and informative content.

@0761ZoRO

3 күн бұрын

But you haven't even listened to the content. The video is 5 minutes old and your comment is two minutes old, yet the video is 37 minutes long! But I am second to comment😂

@thandekamagagula299

3 күн бұрын

He knows and we know it's always good😅

@arthur_za

3 күн бұрын

​@@0761ZoROI've been listening to Sizwe since the beginning. I know the content will always be good. Here's my counter question: what were you doing in the comments of a 37 minute video while it was only 2 minutes old? 🤔

Sizwe, please can we have a conversation on what having the Land, the day after means... These farms were largely subsidised by the Apartheid state, these private patches of land and owners are in massive debt... Can we begin to have real dreams informed by what these farms are and can be beyond dispossession. How does reclamation look like and its pitfalls, so we succeed.

Thanks for this. Looking forward to watching. I think Tembeka Ngcukaitobi also did a video a few years breaking down the concepts and explaining the causes for the lack of progress.

Happy to say I have been following this page for 4 years

I want restitution, redistribution and tenure reform land right there in Rondebosch

@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub

3 күн бұрын

I'd like a nice flat at Clifton beach but unless I have a few million I'm not going to get it.

It would be good to look at th statistics Sizwe. I'd also be interested to know how much private land is unused and how much land is belonging to tribal trusts. This is certainly a political hot patato, but much of unused tribal land is in some of the most fertile high rainful and moderate temperate regions.

Dr Sizwe and the rest of the SMWX fam, many who oppose land expropriation often cite the importance of land to be productive in order to ensure food security. Zimbabwe is often used as an example of how land expropriation can derail a country's economy. How do we as South Africa ensure that that does not happen?

@thulanimahlangu6012

3 күн бұрын

The difference between SA and `Zim is that the land in Zim was given to ZANU-PF soldiers and loyalists. Zim did not have a healthy crop individuals who are trained in agriculture. SA does have the individuals that we have trained to do so. The only challenge will be, will the government give them the access and resources to accelerate the productivity?

@_moonopoly

2 күн бұрын

​@@thulanimahlangu6012and the sanctions did not help.

@thulanimahlangu6012

2 күн бұрын

@@_moonopoly Yes they did not help. But the blow could have been softened bylimiting the food insecurity.

@KillmongerWasRight45

2 күн бұрын

We cant ...The private business sector is under lock n key

Land and housing reform is a game changing lever for inclusive economic growth.

Paying taxes on land is like renting land from the government. Will everyone then pay taxes?

@comancheflyer4903

3 күн бұрын

Everybody who owns land pays taxes in one form or another.There is no free lunch, except for the state.

I'd like to paint a quick scenario for everyone here, so that we can look at this from a different angle: Choose a country other than South Africa. Literally any other country in the world, on any continent, whether it be Europe, Asia, America or the Middle East. Now picture a citizen of such a country walking into his local government office, and having the following conversation with the government official on duty: Citizen: "I'd like to apply for some free land, please." Official: "Excuse me?" Citizen: "Free land. I want to apply for it." Official: "I'm sorry sir, but we don't give out free land. If you would like to purchase some land, then you must pay for it like everybody else." Citizen: "This is oppression! I am being oppressed by the state! My ancestors lived here hundreds of years ago, and I demand to be reimbursed for the suffering that they went through!" Official: "Security, please!" The End

This is why hard work alone isn't enough when the inequality is systemic.

It is true that 70% of our land is agricultural land, but agriculture literally accounts for 2.5% of our GDP. Which is why 68% of South Africa live in urban areas, because we all know there is no real economic prospects in rural areas. I really think if what we want is economic prosperity for black people what is going to be key is lowering unemployment and giving black people in urban areas access to opportunities, opportunities. Focusing on something that only contributes 2.5% to our GDP and concluding that it is key to poverty in this country is strange.

This is an important conversation to have I saw the caption to today's episode and it really compelled me to want to watch. I didn't choose to live and grow up in the Township. Townships were created during the Apartheid era, forcibly segregating Black South Africans into these areas, areas with poor living conditions, and limited access to basic services such as healthcare, education, and water. We should never stop emphasising the importance of Land, we are where we are today as a Nation because of Land being forcefully taken from us, Our grandfathers went from owning land to working in gardens and farms for the White men, cruel dispossession and stealing yho!

@kentclark9616

3 күн бұрын

Have you heard of War? People fight, some people lost. Whether or not I benefit from some great grandfather who won a war has nothing to do with you or I. It’s just the hand we were dealt, the only way forward is moving forward. You can’t take stuff away from me because of something my great great grandfather may or may not have done

@sno_gush2545

3 күн бұрын

@@kentclark9616 you are misinformed and very wrong, the conversation here is the 1913 Land Act which was to dispossess Africans of their land, following that the 1950 Groups Areas Act which was enacted by the Apartheid government to racially segregate us Clark, hence I say I never chose to grow up in the Townships I was put there! You and your forefathers directly benefited from the Acts of thievery, you were given resources and platforms to advance yourselves and your posterity. Currently, Africans own very little to NO LAND at all, compared to the White minority who own 90% of the land. Moving forward is admitting the wrongs done being sensitive to the real consequences and challenges my people face daily and help rewrite the wrongs of your forefathers by paying reparations! Stop being defensive and ignorant. If you continue to be that way then it will be war, but if you are a true and honest human being we will work together as a nation and move forward.

@ChrisTus83

6 сағат бұрын

In 1948 when Apartheid started many Black people were already living in townships. More than 30 000 Black people were put in concentration camps during the Anglo Boer War. After the war has ended in 1902, many of these Black camps were not dissolved and they just evolved into becoming townships. So, the British actually created the majority of the big townships and not the NP.

@sizwe The first Minister of Agriculture in the Mandela cabinet in 1994 was Derek Hanekom who was and is an ANC minister.

I think it’s important to reflect that a lot of commercial farms are owned by large companies. Massive shift from family owned farms since 1980s.

Well taught Dr Sizwe. Good work. Thank you. Land gives African identity and land reform can drive development culturally and economically.. Our society will be better after good Godly reform.

Sizwe great analysis, SMWX is getting stronger and better. Keep up the great work.

Thank you for taking the time to explain these issues in detail!

ANC has been an absolute failure for the people of SA!!!

As a critic, I believe in you, you are brilliant Dr. Mpofu. Calm, collected and clear on delivering every subject matter.

Thanks, Doc. I am looking forward to tomorrow's episode as usual to stay up to date with current affairs and detailed analysis and synthesis.

We do have 2 farms in Roadtan in limpopo and the proof is there is a Graves there and white owners even denied our access to the graves

This has really been informative. Thank you SMWX.. 🔥🔥 Ayeye!!

I hear you, but I want to ask either you or the comment section a serious question. I want to preface my question by saying I have no skin in this game. I can’t afford land. I don’t own a house or anything. So my question is: What happens if I go to the bank and get a loan to buy a farm/property today. I did not own it before today. Tomorrow, the government says it should be given to a dispossessed individual. What is the process here? Since I only owned it for one day. Can it be said that I stole it? What happens to my loan? Should I still pay it even though I no longer own the land. Ok, so there are actually several questions! 😂 I’m really asking because I’m curious. Please don’t read this as an attack.

You never dissapoint, bukumele igama lakho ngu Fuzile ngoba ulandele ekhondweni laka Adv. Mpofu. Like Father, like Son, thank you Dr 👏🏿

Spread the Fire 🔥 Thanks sharing! Great content as always!

impressed by the quality of these discussions, considering the amount of relevant content being put out. the last conversation with uGogo wow 👏🏾 i think the timing of this episode is perfect because so many things get muddied up and sensationalized on social media and false narratives are pushed to us

Im from a Town Planning profession and this was literally my class lecture, excellently presented. Thanks Hlubi for explaining this important matter to the masses. Then people can link all this information to politics, one can clearly see and understand the Values of the political parties in SA, eg, The MK wants to amend the constitution to address such matters, because it understand that the majority are land less from history, another eg, is the DA, their value is in capitalism and privatization, they avoid the issue of land at all costs because they know that white minority owns most land, economic activity on the land and they want to protect the interest of minority. Land is not the agenda of the DA

The land issue is gone, the current ANC and it's clever blacks want nothing to do with that issue, real black people who care about this country must decide to toe the line or fight for land

Who did the cup's owner steal it from?

Thanks!

Dr SMW and team, thank you so much, the work you do is important and so appreciated. Just wanted to express my deep and heartfelt gratitude for the dedicated work you do day after day. It is Eye opening, educational, informative, intellectually stimulating and/or thought provoking . Love how you impart information and dissect the issues. Your platform is exceptional. Keep up the great work…

Bakcanize SA so that this land question can be solved. There are not only black and white people in SA there are also Indian and coloured people in South Africa. Then there are land that was legally bought and paid for during the 1800s what will happen to that land? Between 1652 and 1910 huge parts of SA were simply unpopulated there were nobody there and it never belong to anybody. Also remember in 1652 there were not a country called South Africa. So those who start developing it should also have a say on who owns the land and who not. I sometimes wonder is this about getting hold of well developed farms that are benefitting many South Africans in terms of jobs and foreign currency, or is it about getting land for some or other political reason.

@arkuis

3 күн бұрын

These are inconvenient questions that do not fit Sizwe's racialised narrative.

@SpotonwithTP-qz6wq

3 күн бұрын

You sound ridiculous if you steal land then build on that stolen land you should have a say, that's like if I hijack your car then put some rims and sound system on it and at some point, you want it back I should have a say on which parts you should have or I should get paid for you to get it back even thou I stole it.

@BeatsByZetan

3 күн бұрын

Only in Africa where people ask for land that was taken unjustly under a lawless system to be recognised by the laws and government of the day. When 80% of the land of the country is agricultural land, and 70% of that land belongs to a few powerful families that got the land through no legal means and gave themselves everlasting contracts, then the problem is right before your eyes. It's an economy that will never serve its people, only a few rich families and if you cannot grasp this then that's on you.

@tam1641

3 күн бұрын

Listen to your self

@nedor64

3 күн бұрын

@@SpotonwithTP-qz6wq "You sound ridiculous if you steal land" Who stole land from who, that is what I want to know bring me the owner who lost land in 1780 or in 1910 then I can believe you.

Thanks for a dispassionate and educational presentation of this thorny problem. I have learnt a lot.

Dr Sizwe thank you for the clarity.What a masterpiece lecture.Quite eye opening

Hi Dr Mpofu-Walsh my family owns land in Oskraal and they have the documents to prove it,however the process has been frustrated by the government because it has minerals. There was even someone assassinated a couple of years ago for pursuing the restitution. It’s unfortunate to see our parents unable to enjoy the fruits of their grandfather’s land and we don’t know who to seek guidance from anymore

There was willful disregard for this process. We were robbed again by the ANC.

One thing about Sizwe, I disagree with MANY of his views, but I always enjoy hearing them.

SIZWE YOU ACURATE WITH YOUR ADVISE ,LAND MUST BE SHARED ❤

@Dubandlela1

3 күн бұрын

Equally so

@user-yp1pu8kj7p

3 күн бұрын

@Dubandlela1 Thanks so much we love ❤️ your show SMWX ❤️ 💕 ♥️ 💖 💗 💙 ❤️ 💕

Thank you very much for this valuable information i really do appreciate it,i did learn alot thanks again.

😢Thank you, Dr. Mpofu this is very informative and important. Can you invite government on land reform department. And lastly, DR JJ needs to come back asap for an interview post election. Sibonge

This has been quite an informative view Dr. Thank you. On this complex topic I think the main dominant schools of thought are Restorative school and Reformative school. The restorative school is often quite emotive and divisive, and therefore loved by politicians. The idea of being able to reset seems to have so much appeal to human beings. But even proponents of this school change their minds when you say it sounds like all land should belong to the Khoi and the San if we truly believe in restoration. Even if current land was distributed equitably (still not sure what that means: is it like 1 hactare each?), a generation from now the distribution may still prove to be suboptimal as land use changes. I am fan of Reformative school of thought, which is based on the believe that land is a limited resource we share with current and future generations, and that it's use may change over time. This school requires that there is a minimum 40 year land use plan, revised every 20 years. Based on this plan we can designate different land parcels for residential use, commercial use, conservation etc. It is this plan that should inform how we ensure that distribution is fair. Where land needs to be expropriated, it should be at cost i.e. the value of land should be on use and not on mere ownership of land over time.

@wangatshivhase8381

3 күн бұрын

@janmogwana5930 interesting observation bra Jan but what is Citizans position on those who lost land as a consequence of conquest or discriminatory policies that were enacted that can show you where they were dispossessed? Is it not in harmony with justice and fairness to ensure they’re given back that which was dispossessed from them ? How does citizans see this dilemma because there is no shortage of such people all across South Africa both Khoi and Bantu* people? Love the work you guys are doing by the way! sending blessings and revolutionary energy you way 👍🏽

@wangatshivhase8381

3 күн бұрын

Last one bra Jan, in cases where they were dispossessed without compensation which happened to a lot of people, would it not be an injustice on top of a injustice to buy back that which was forcefully taken from you with no compensation and thus being restricted to small and not-arable areas of land also known as bantustans and homelands ? What is Citizans position on such cases ?

SUMMARY The three concepts of land reform Restitution Get something back that belongs to you. Dispossession of land through war and law. You can get that land back to 1913. Analogy cup. Redistribution Not everyone can prove but in general indiginous lost land. Therefore let’s share land more equally. Analogy: divide up the garden Tenure reform Already working farms regardless of piece of paper. Eg state. Rights to land already on. Conclusion Some combination Current failures since 1994 72% not owned by black SA 2/3 of land mass is grams and stuff

A well articulated analysis of the land question. Part of this question is also understanding the Agrarian question, both these questions must not be understood unilaterally.

I have numerous examples of land that was provided to the disadvantaged. The farmer sold the land to the government for R100k. They give the land to the disadvantaged individual. Not even 3 months later, the receiver of the new land sells it back to the original farmer for R50k. Most people receiving land have no idea how to farm. Farmers feed the nation. Truth be told, people don’t want land, they want the money.

After thirty plus years of the end of apartheid. After thirty plus years of the government being held by the ANC, it’s absolutely unacceptable that so many of the indigenous population lives in such harsh and desperate situations. The question becomes, why is this still the situation. From there we’re left with the need to draw our own conclusions. One conclusion: apartheid ended and the few (to include the black indigenous African) in control ensured that they and their people benefited, instead of making sure there was a sincere move forward that benefited the masses of the indigenous population. Second conclusion: apartheid ended and the few didn’t make the most important issue of land redistribution a priority. Third conclusion: Maybe the few in control were afraid to do what had to be done and instead went with the same ole way to keep the peace. Fourth conclusion: Those who were the leaders in government (the indigenous Black African), didn’t know how to navigate legal paths to ensure fair and equitable redistribution of land that gave their own indigenous population a foundation to build upon. In all actuality and metaphorically speaking. Every leader both of the past and the current should feel a sense of shame for allowing such a destitute situation to exist and to exist for so long.

Dr SMW ayeye to your analysis, research, knowledge delivered to ones understanding 👏 👍 👌 🙌 intelligently educating the common people, excellent dear. You capture your audience immeasurably. Great platform of political analysis 👏

Very helpful and insightful. Thank you.

This is a very serious issue that needs to be resolved soon. I feel all relevant agencies, organizations and political parties need to come together, sit in a room and come up with a workable solution. Which needs to be publicly aired, so the people are always up to date on what is happening and can see all the different points that come across. Its complicated issue that needs resolvement. I just pray that their isn't an over correction, as to what happened in Zimbabwe. There needs to be a fair compromise from all sides.

@thomasprogli3372

3 күн бұрын

I believe this issue is a red herring that will not solve the issues it allegedly addresses. The black poor will still be poor and still have no land because they will either never get it or lose it very quickly. The reason being that getting land, does not mean you know how to keep land. Just because the Xhosa had land does not mean the Zulus were not taking this land away from them.

Hot Take 🔥: Maybe we should start abolishing the idea of private property. Even if we redistribute fairly, it's only a matter of time before the land is concentrated in the hands of the few once again. Only this time, it might not be along racial lines.

Siyafunda lana kwaSMWX. Thank you team.

I would love this topic to be unpacked more in a panel discussion where at least 75% of the time is spent on discussing practical options for the future. Especially if we can show which of these practical options have been tried, how they worked, and how we can improve on them. This is a very complex issue, so I hope the complexity can be engaged and done so in a very practical matter. We are not too stupid to not engage the complexity. Just imporant that the panel takes us on a practical journey as an audience.

Dr Mpofu-Walsh, thank you for the episode fethu. The feelings that you evoked around the apathy of the ANC government touches a very uncomfortable nerve, personally. A feeling that i share being a part of a profession that is basically tasked with the redress of aphartheid's land policies, integral to land governance. Town Planning policy was at the heart of the implementations of unjust land legislation and i guess the other discussion around this topic is the epic failure of this profession to transform south african land from a land policy perspective. Part of the problem is indeed the lack of political will but also it isn't surprising that effective spatial restucturing, of which land reform is a major part, is spearheaded mainly by the leaders of the town planning industry. White South Africans who also enjoy the benefits of how south african land is currently structured. It is interesting when you look into the authors of various land and spatial policy. I imagine every industry in South Africa is similar in this way but when you consider this industry's position in terms of land policy implementation, you cant help but sense a measure of sabotage in the land reform agenda, whether this is conscience or not or deemed academic or professional. If i were a government who was eager to transform south africa in terms of its land id shine a light into the workings of this industry. This industry is so critical to this conversation and im quite ashamed because i feel we share in the anc government's failure in this area.

This conversation is really getting tiring cause everyone is talking but no one is doing anything about it 🤷🏾‍♂️

A very insightful and informative conversation.

Thank you for explaining so well.

This has been so informative, thank you so much! Can you please do an episode on the three spheres of our Governments, what critical role does each have???

Thank you for this informed and thoughtful layout giving a 101 about this historical inequality. I have always had some questions, if there is someway to clarify would be great. Redistribution Question 1 - My grand father had a farm (cup) taken away from him, he has 45 descendants. Who then decides who gets the farm now? (b) And does this apply to my grandmother as well? Restitution Question My grand father had a rich farm (cup)in the centre of a town. My friends father had a poor farm in the middle of the Karroo. How to we undo that inherent inequality? Tenure I have had my grandfather's land returned to me. I am enormously disadvantaged, historically, financially and socially. How do I now start, build, maintain a business in a ruthlessly competitive capitalist market, that has seen people fleeing the land internationally, where using the land for business is too difficult/expensive/unstable? I completely understand the deep seated passions about this. The minority ownership of the country is immoral and unfair. It needs to be rectified . YES. But inheritance itself is horribly divisive. Inequality is dangerously corrosive and savage. Short term sucess and long term unviability have undone entire economies. By the time I get this far I am cross eyed. And is that not why there is no clear law. It is just too complex, potentially dangerous and divisive to be tackled? I am not suggesting doing nothing. But I cannot see an easy answer.

Thanks Doc for being the truth.

Thanks for the education Sizwe

Great video as always. Complex problem and topic...

Thank you for this informative session 👏🏽

Dr Mpofu Walsh🙏

Good content....thank you!

Brilliant analysis. Land and economic reforms are imperative.

Thank you for explaining the two terms

Yoo your analysis of land question is so captivating.Im now empowered abd proud of the Mpofu and Welch families. I wish that my children are like you. You a grown up and a real man and please never ponder emigrating to work at US cause Black SA will really cry!

Best channel on KZread

Yet you hear them today complaining there's a "reverse apartheid" when there are redress attempts

@ayakhasokabo8816

3 күн бұрын

The delusion is real my guy

@jeannemeyer3089

3 күн бұрын

The whites are now only 7.3 % and shrinking. You dont have to worry we will soon all be gone and you will prosper

@tam1641

3 күн бұрын

Excepting fairness from these pll is like waiting for a dog to fly . All I’ve the globe they are the same so when I see pll smiling with them I just shake my head

@dantakeoff

3 күн бұрын

@@ayakhasokabo8816 Can you say Koi-San? There are real question my guy...

@suesykes6798

3 күн бұрын

When will you get it into your thick skulls that us white Citizens did not steal land from anyone. We bought our property and pay taxes on that. Nothing is Mahala, and nor are we land thieves. You will have to did up the dead for your land. 😂😂