I'm technically still waiting to hear back from an interview I attended in 1997. Don't think I've got the job but you never know...

@NS-uq9st

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@kazi1

2 жыл бұрын

😂

@karlaf.64

2 жыл бұрын

😂

@shilpisoni4093

2 жыл бұрын

good one :)

@latonyagreen9239

2 жыл бұрын

🤣

Another reason it takes so long to get an offer is that they be in active negotiations with their primary candidate. They are keeping you warm just in case.

@conquerorsgamezone7480

3 ай бұрын

Well said

This is me right now. Waited three weeks after my first interview for a job I can say I was legitimately excited about, and at the second interview I was told I'd at least get an update on where they were in the process in a week. Three weeks later and I'm on the hunt again because I can not afford to wait no matter how perfect this position is for me as a person and the skills I have to offer. It's incredibly frustrating and disheartening. I understand people and businesses are busy, but a simple email should not be that hard to send, considering I've checked in.

@SHAWNDETROIT

2 жыл бұрын

I definitely agree!!

@0670917799

2 жыл бұрын

I’m a Talent Acquisition analyst and reading that makes me cringe. A company with a focus on hiring great talent would know to push through the approval process as quick as possible. The talent market is on fire & waiting too long can result in losing great talent.

@chavonjames8941

2 жыл бұрын

@@0670917799 since you are a TA analyst, would this be due to the resignation or just the labour market itself just shifting?

@0670917799

2 жыл бұрын

@@chavonjames8941 I’d say there’s elements of both. With the great resignation, there are gaps in companies but that also is now easily filled with the influx of talent that doesn’t necessarily have to be local, due to many companies allowing remote-work. Due to this, I’ve noticed trends of employees leveraging their skills along with the knowledge of the lack of local talent to gain the upper hand.

@leftofpunk

2 жыл бұрын

So, this was a month ago now. How did it turn out?

I think it’s Disrespectful and discouraging for employers not to communicate effectively with their candidates during the hiring process who in the hell wants to wait? They ring our phones off the hook when they want us,but when they DONT the communication is few and far in between and they flat out ghost us.I’m going on other job interviews and keep it pushing I have waited several times in the past and did not get the job .I cannot afford to sit around and wait anymore

@vinvin492

Жыл бұрын

You're its makes me crazier

@sibusisofaya7874

11 ай бұрын

EXACTLY. Dude would respond within minutes when he was begging me to go for the interview. When I ask him after a week what's happening regarding the interview I had dude was SILENT. when he needed me he blew up my phone now that he got what he wanted he ghosts Me. I got a 2nd Interview after 5 WEEKS. My 2nd interview was officially 2 weeks ago and I'm waiting again. They said they'd let me know in 5 to 10 working days. Frustrating stuff

@sandhyakumar4504

10 ай бұрын

Agreed. Same thing happened to me. Tired of waiting

@bishopisbetter

16 күн бұрын

lol

@josevilla3709

13 күн бұрын

its business. Continue to interview.

If your gut feeling is telling you that it is too long then chances are you just the backup option

@r-jay284

3 ай бұрын

After 26 years tho?? 😂😂

Brian, my dude! I finally landed my dream job thanks in part to you! Finally ended 7 months of unemployment!

@Digitalknifeparty

8 ай бұрын

👏🏾👏🏾

@blitzchamp3854

4 ай бұрын

Good for you! 7 months is too long... I could never have that patience...

@ambermay6884

2 ай бұрын

Congrats!!

I had this happen to me 3 times. Made it to the verbal offer and then silence. No clue what happened on the internal side. Best advice is keep interviewing and sending out resumes as you normally would to avoid disappointment. Until you have a formal job offer in writing, you have nothing! Proceed with this idea and be less frustrated when things turn south.

@jericcastillo4286

2 жыл бұрын

HI, shoud I trust the HR Senior HR Advisor, when shed said that I need to give her time to revert so she can ask her boss where the job offer approval is now? But a day passed, still no update from her

@enrichtv7190

Жыл бұрын

@@jericcastillo4286 did you get it?

@jericcastillo4286

Жыл бұрын

@@enrichtv7190Nope. Dont bait their flowering words, its a trap. They want to delay your other applications.

@galaxywanderer5508

9 ай бұрын

It may be your references. Get someone you know to pose as your former employer.

@jamtyful6309

3 ай бұрын

Even if you have a formal job offering, they can rescind it. You have nothing until your first paycheck is in.

Many years ago, I was hiring. We extended a verbal offer to the candidate. Then we had some Executive musical chairs and a budget freeze. Seven weeks later, we sent the written offer to the candidate. He accepted the offer. He did not show up on the first day. His current employer offered him a better role. Based on our slow communication to him, he did not feel any urgency to tell us he changed his mind.

@ug2254

2 жыл бұрын

Dear Alan, what are the executive musical chairs? (English is not my first language and I am very curious)

@ug2254

2 жыл бұрын

@@EresirThe1st thank you! :)

@ATWortman

2 жыл бұрын

@@ug2254 Musical chairs is a children's game where children walk around a set of chairs while music plays. There is always one less chair than players. When the music stops, the kids must quickly sit down in a chair. The player who cannot find a chair is eliminated. Then a chair is removed. And the game repeats until there is only one chair and one child. Here is an example: kzread.info/dash/bejne/X6ODmbikY8-0iLA.html&ab_channel=PattyShuklaKidsTV-Children%27ssongs

@hsp8933

2 жыл бұрын

well deserved to your company, well done by the employee

@ryanittoo

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, I recently applied for a graduate scheme was told that we would find out shortly. Recently the HR updated me saying that they should be in a position to extend offer by tomorrow as thy were discussion on how many graduates they can take on. Could you please advise me if this is good news or not?

If I don't hear back within a few days, I give up on the company. I've had to have this conversation more than once where I'll be told I'll get a job offer, end up working for another company, and have to explain to the first company that my time is valuable. They can get over it, I can make money anywhere. The whole process as you described it is borderline disrespectful to the candidates.

@TheJusticefornone

Жыл бұрын

Employers are set to believe they have every bit of the power, that is why they think can get away with it

@mateaukalua4426

25 күн бұрын

To be honest I side with you. I usually try to start filling out applications way before I need to get another job to test out the region's current job market and my value in it. My value in the current job market I want to get into is 38K to 54K. I know they will try to get me on the low end so I have been very careful to avoid low salary jobs.

I went through an interview process years ago, excelled at it and was told I would be hired. They said they would be sending over an offer letter which they did. However, on the offer letter they said if I did any work of any kind for any other company that it would terminate my employment with them. So before I went off the rails, I called the person that interviewed me to get further clarification. What if I worked a second job at night in a field that has nothing to do with the job I am being hired for? I asked the interviewer. This person said I could not do that as the company needed to know you were 100% committed to their company and no other company. With that, I told them I am no longer interested in the job. The person was shocked and got upset. They started getting heated as to how they already started all the paperwork for payroll, benefits etc. I told the person that part of the offer was unacceptable. I would not accept a position that would deny me my right to work during the hours I was not working for them. Even though I had no intention of getting a second job, the thought that a company could take away that basic freedom was absolutely repugnant to me.

@vuyisilegabuza4178

Жыл бұрын

Is okay to call the person who interviewed you when the HR person gives one a challenge to get the offer.

@coreejacobs4780

9 ай бұрын

That’s not cool, sorry that happened. There are people that don’t want to work for major organizations because some expect all your time to become their time. I was being paid salary and my employer did not want to pay for my days off although they still wanted me to work from home and join meetings

@CST1992

6 ай бұрын

You overreacted, IMO. Lots of companies don't allow moonlighting these days - it's nothing special.

@freedomring3022

6 ай бұрын

@@CST1992 I do t think so at all.

@SS-yt9dr

3 ай бұрын

@@CST1992 that’s absurd

Companies do whatever they can get away with before the offer and after. The hiring process is a distressing disaster for many candidates. Many job seekers need therapy afterwards. I am happy to be retiring soon.

@johnydaddy4195

Жыл бұрын

You're so funny, bro😂

Don't wait. Continue your search until you have a signed accepted offer.

My last 3 out of 4 hiring situations were very very fast. The hiring manager immediately identified me as the candidate they wanted in each instance and got offers within days. But of course these were with smaller companies that apparently can move faster on decisions. Waiting 3-4 weeks with literally no idea if you're going to even get an offer is asking far too much of any job seeker, many of whom many need to land something quickly, not wait out the bloated internal processes. In the future, if I don't hear back quickly, I'll already be moving onto the next company to interview.

@stevedavenport1202

2 жыл бұрын

Completely agree...

@selenasimmons6653

2 жыл бұрын

I'm interviewing now in a particular industry...things are moving pretty quickly, but now IDK how long this final round response is going to take

@dendren0

2 жыл бұрын

I interviewed for my current position on Halloween back in 2019. I didn’t receive an offer letter until the day before Thanksgiving. The wait drove me nuts lol.

@sheabutta5425

2 жыл бұрын

Until you receive an offer, never stop the interview process.

@Pinesol605

Жыл бұрын

I interviewed at a small company it’s taking forever. At this point might as well just accept it…maybe they hired someone else who would for less

When you see the job reposted to the job boards following the interview process, this will give you a good indication you're not getting an offer.

This is why it is important to ALWAYS ask "what are the next steps."

@MikeNapoli1989

2 жыл бұрын

They always tell you the same thing though. “Oh, we’re interviewing a few more candidates, you should hear back in blah blah blah.”

@sethkang4410

2 жыл бұрын

@@MikeNapoli1989 tell them u need to know soon because i have another few offers. but youre actually right

Most companies show very little courtesy or concern about applicants. Everything is about them and you as a potential employee are an afterthought!

I once waited so long that by the time they got back to me I already took an offer from a competitor for pretty much the same compensation. I really wanted to move on from my current job ASAP so I was going by the whoever offers acceptable terms first wins. Company A lost out while I'm happy at company B, some managers joked that it was a good thing that company A was working at a snails pace on my application process otherwise company B would've never landed me.

They're looking to lowball you or someone else is their 1st (2nd... 3rd...) choice and that person is still deciding.

@asadb1990

2 жыл бұрын

in my experience, if they miss the deadline, they won't be selecting you. and like you said, they try to go with the cheapest guy with most experience.

@mateaukalua4426

25 күн бұрын

​@@asadb1990It's a dam shame. Everyone wants a deal. My current company is so cheap they're losing good employees to save a few bucks in the short term.

@asadb1990

25 күн бұрын

@mateaukalua4426 there is a balance to be sure. Employees can't all get top dollar but employers can't always keep offering bottom pay. especially more so for skilled as the cost of living jas skyrocketed and most older skilled folks are married or a couple and won't tolerate having roommates.

@mateaukalua4426

25 күн бұрын

@@asadb1990 I am turning 31 soon. Next week is basically my last week here. They gave me a $1.00 raise per hour since I started. They're also trying to promote some little 22 yo ahead of me who I got here 5 months before she did. Good luck to them. They're losing a good employee in me and will suffer. 🤣🤣💪🏿

@asadb1990

25 күн бұрын

@mateaukalua4426 Yeah, i can't ever work extra hard for a promotion that might happen. My work should be reason for promotion. If i have to justify my promotion, i would much rather put the effort into a new job.

I’ve been interviewing at a large company, enterprise level, and the process started out awesome and fast, but has gradually become slower and slower to get a reply. I’ve had six interviews now, including the initial recruiting screening call. They ranged from 40 minutes to an hour each. I had an hour-long interview with a VP on the morning of the 15th that I felt I truly aced, and it’s now the 25th and … crickets. Nada. I even took a day off work from my current job to make it to one of the interviews. I reached out to the recruiter on Tuesday one week after asking if they needed anything else from me, and then their coordinator today asking if they have heard any feedback or could let me know how else I can be useful during the process. So far I’ve heard nothing. I understand recruiters need to be tight-lipped, but it’s very discouraging as a candidate to spend 6-7 hours interviewing for a job, take time off, send in materials, be ready to hop on the phone whenever, and not even be dignified with an email saying “we haven’t forgotten about you! We will update you soon.”

@prezzlola

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, this is truly horrible, so sorry! Did they even get back to you? I hope you didn't stop looking!

@JenniferBellfilms

2 жыл бұрын

@@prezzlola Hi! They got back to me a month and a half later with excuses saying the position was removed, but zero communication in between. It’s okay, I accepted a different offer for a large but not quite enterprise level real estate firm in their marketing department! It’s an $11,000 per year raise from my current job and they only had me do two interviews to get it. So I’m very happy. :)

@prezzlola

2 жыл бұрын

@@JenniferBellfilms congratulations! I can't understand why these employers play with candidates' time like this, but I'm glad you still came out on top.

@zarathustra498

2 жыл бұрын

6 rounds is insane, anything more than 2-3-4 is IMO not acceptable

@69thPredator

Жыл бұрын

6 rounds is overkill. The most I’ve had were 5 rounds which consisted of 2 technical panel interviews. Then they came at me with an offer that was lower than my current job even though they had my salary range. I declined and got another offer from another company that doubled my pay and I only had 2 phone interviews.

I interviewed at a company recently_ish, and it took them a whole year later to ask me if I was still interested and gave me a "low ball" offer. I responded with a "Thank you for your swift response, but no thanks." Never had something like that happen since this whole covid thing.

It is downright rude for the employers to just ghost the person whom they are gonna hire because of their outdated and heavily inefficient and bureaucratic procedures. At least, let the candidate know the process. If not, be prepare for losing a great candidate. We DO NOT WANT TO WAIT.

@TheJusticefornone

Жыл бұрын

We can afford to do anything except to wait lol!

Thanks for specifically bringing up process bloat. This is usually 70% of the issue on the company side. In the past, as a candidate, I had a 3 week rule. 3 weeks to get through round 3 and an offer. Anything past that, my price goes up (and not because I'm just that crude lol). Simply put, most of what you bring up from the company side should have already been worked through and committed to before opening the position to applicants. Waiting until you have candidates already in process is a red flag to candidates like myself that your company doesn't have an efficient handle on the operation of its business. If you struggle to handle a fairly simple administrative process such as hiring, how much of mess is the rest of the company. As a process management consultant now, this is exactly the hot mess i find more often than i care to admit. At the end of the day, your time as an applicant, or as a recruiter, has value...and it's solely up to you to protect it. Good info, thanks for sharing!

@blktauna

2 жыл бұрын

"Simply put, most of what you bring up from the company side should have already been worked through and committed to before opening the position to applicants." This. It is nonsense to do everything all over for each candidate. Total bloat.

I have had this happen a few times. One company took so long that I'd actually started interviewing with another company, completed their interview process, received and accepted their offer, and started working there before the first company got back to me (they did make an offer, it was slightly higher than the first company but by that point I just laughed at them).

If it’s not in writing, it does not mean anything. I don’t care what they tell you. You are looking for better outcome and you looking for results, if they can’t decide within two weeks then there is nothing to talk about.

Its just to many steps involved with the overall hiring process! The longer I have to wait to hear back. I am going to take another job offer!

@ALifeAfterLayoff

2 жыл бұрын

I don't disagree. Frustrating for everyone.

@asadb1990

2 жыл бұрын

yes i agree which is what many candidates do because most of us are looking because we need the money.

@sashanyc1942

2 жыл бұрын

@@ALifeAfterLayoff I told them I have an offer in hand with a deadline but they are still my top choice. It would have been nice if they got back to me before the offer expiry deadline but they did not. And radio silence on top of it. So rude.

I would never work for a company which could not give me an offer within 2-3 business days. This tells me that upper management doesn't care about their employees. Also, these companies think you'll jump at any offer, usually a low ball offer, even if you have 30 years experience. I remember one time I was told they were going hire but had not got back to me in four months. Then they called asking when I could start & the hourly wage they were going to pay. I told the HR Manager that If it took them 4 months to get their thumbs out of their asses, they shove the offer up their ass also.

@JohnSmith-fs8bu

2 жыл бұрын

So they said they liked your raw tenacity and gave you an upper management position right?

@JustMe99999

Жыл бұрын

When you're not talking about "hourly wage" jobs, it's going to take more than 2-3 business days in almost every case, unless you're going to some tiny startup.

@Gavin_Francis

3 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

They just want to string you along, want you to be available if they finally decide they can't do better.

Hi Bryan! I'm excited to tell you I landed a job offer from a reputable company after being unemployed for nearly two years. I had previously applied to two other positions and was ghosted. Their recruiter called me to ask me to apply to a position for which they thought I'd be a good fit. After two interviews, I have my offer at the salary I requested. I am going to negotiate for a third week of PTO, though. Thank you so much for your videos and advice. I'm so excited!

@Nwakaego_

Жыл бұрын

Congrats!🎉

Some recruiters are pretty useless and make the interview + recruitment process very stressful to the candidate because they don't follow up. Last year I had two rounds of interviews with a particular company that supposedly was going to make their decision in 48 hours after the last interview. I didn't hear anything back from the company. I didn't hear back from the recruiter either. Three months went by (I got another contract in that time, luckily). I saw something on TV that reminded me of the company. Out of curiosity I called the company + asked what happened to that position. They told me that they had told the recruiter to tell me that they were going to hold off on hiring "until we see how the market is". So then I called the recruiter. After four days of telephone tag, trying to leave voicemails in a full VM inbox, etc. I got hold of the vice-president in charge of recruiting. She profusely apologized + explained that they had let the recruiter who had first contacted me go the day after my final interview + that that recruiter's colleague was supposed to follow up with her candidates. Apparently it had slipped that dude's mind...

This was really GOOD insight! I just received an offer on a dream role and waiting for the offer letter was the longest 48 hours EVER! However, while keeping this in mind, this helped tremendously. Thank you again for providing good content.

Thank you for this video. It addresses a lot of background anxiety for candidates waiting upon a decision. Knowing the intricate details of the hiring process in the post-interview stage clears the air and stress pretty well!

He hasn’t told one lie. I got reached out to for an opportunity end of June and my start date was October 1st. I got my offer about 3 weeks after my interviews just because everything he said. It sucks sitting on your hands wondering but it’s the nature of the beast, especially in this crazy candidate friendly market.

@asadb1990

2 жыл бұрын

for offers so far you keep applying and interviewing because you never know if they rescind the offer.

If it takes weeks-or even months-before your interviewer lets you know that you got the job, you might want to think twice before signing that job offer. Unless there’s a really, really good reason (such as restructuring or perhaps the acquisition of and merger with another company), taking that long to respond could indicate that filling your position isn’t a priority, which could mean you won’t get the feedback and support you want or need.

@jayaplin1997

2 жыл бұрын

No company should be hiring during a big restructuring/merger/acquisition anyways tbh. Shows they're not organized

The quickest I’ve heard back on from an employer was actually when I was interviewing with a state government. Literally every other thing with the state takes ages to get done but I had an offer after the interview in a couple of days. It genuinely surprised me.

I think they purposefully make this process so annoying/agonizing to discourage people from quitting. I DESPISE searching for a new job. It’s literally a full time job unto itself. I don’t mind working and I show up on time but man , sometimes just getting your foot in the door is literally painful… 2nd, 3rd interviews, the anxiety and waiting, the lowball offers, the promises that never materialize…. just overall a very frustrating experience.

@nontokozombatha9182

8 күн бұрын

@@TheSnackAttackingSnorlax that’s literally where I am now!😫😫 it’s the worst! Did they eventually get back to you?

I got laid off June 2022 and have been on countless interviews. The interviews went well. I'm waiting for feedback on these and am hoping to have an offer from one of them Thank you Mr. Life After Layoff. This was very useful. Thank you.

As one who was an interviewer, I made it my business to be swift in reviewing applications, setting first round interviews, and completing reference checks for the finalists...to me it's bad manners, and undermining folks when the senior manager wants to review another set of candidates...ur risking the solid ones you put the time in to find...that's costing the team time and money...

Thank you, this is extremely helpful, the wait IS agony but this insight offers hope

I understand that it can take some time, but it's really annoying when you do a practical test for them after the first interview, it takes you days or weeks of dedication and you never get an answer back.

Finally a helpful video with actual applicable situations. Here I am scouring the internet while I wait for the big offer but I don't know what to expect. They are taking so long.

My tactic once I have waited too long is to call them and say 'I have an offer from another company, I like your company better, but if the choice is between this other company vs no job at all, I will go with the other offer.'

this was super helpful and 100% accurate to what im going through rn. I'm just waiting!!!

I got a job offer the next morning after a tour and accepted. Your videos are so helpful and I've identified this employer as a good one!

Spot on! I worked in management in a tech company for a few years, and it always took a while to get the right scoping. Hiring managers and directors are busy folks with lots of other things going on. Even when we need to "move fast", it can still take a bit to get everything adjusted. Even for my best candidates, I would usually need at least 2 weeks to get everything taken care of: admin stuff, chatting with the whole team, coordinating compensation, title agreements, back-and-forth chat, etc. A good recruiter and team will work to communicate with you on expectations and regular emails. In my experience, any time an "offer" is expected, you will get one. For the dozens of candidates I've hired, we never once "promised" an offer and then backed out later. Besides, any org that would do that is not something you want to be a part of.

For the candidate, this is your life, future, and hope. Just remember it's a job task for the powers that be & they may have goals like hiring slow to find the perfect candidate to overwork & underpay. The added downfall of hiring super slow are all the coworkers burning out while teams are understaffed.

@redlionplumbing

Жыл бұрын

@@RiceCake-ep9gu 💯

This is a great channel & content.

Thank you for this video! Still waiting on my offer!!!

Thank you for your videos! I was laid off and have now found a higher paying job that seems better than the one I was laid off from!!

This video is PERFECT TIMING!😀😁😎

All this is very exhausting..

You're a great adviser thank you so much sir for the ideas!

I have a friend in a city mayor's office that has told me about their long delays. She said they had one position open for more than a year because all the candidates kept taking other jobs. Whenever they hire it's a very long process because they are almost always there for life and nearly impossible to fire. She said they routinely take 6-8 weeks.

I've been looking for a job since September 2021. Two employers (in which I interviewed with in October 2021 and January 2022) have contacted my references. One of those jobs just called last week for me to do a background check. Still no offer letter from neither. It's a headache and when they finally decide to hire you, they want you to literally jump to your workspace and start working immediately. HR needs serious reform.

Did an interview yesterday and it had been my first one in a long time. Praying that they see I’m the man for the job. Not my will but the Lord’s will be done.

This was helpful-thanks for sharing.

I stay interested in an IT or Tech role no more than 2 weeks! If I haven't gotten an offer by then, I'm not interested, anymore!! 1 week should be the max we should all wait for an offer from the time we finished interviewing!!

Another timely video! I just completed my 5 interview process at a large search provider earlier this week (the one that has you prepare for a few weeks prior). Waiting on that feedback, which will take longer due to some folks being out for pre-holiday break/vacation.

@coolkid-xc1yi

2 жыл бұрын

How did it go?

@RickJohnson

2 жыл бұрын

@@coolkid-xc1yi they wanted me to redo one of them to increase the level I'd enter in with, but redoing it didn't improve my standing. Because I was unwilling to relocate, and that limited my options. Combined with the leveing of the one part of the interview, they ultimately passed, but invited me to apply again in a year. Thus, nearly 3 months of interview from first contact, prep, interviewing, holiday waiting, interviewing again, then finally rejection. It was for the best since it steered me toward a different role that was more aligned with my skills at Chewy.

A recent linkedin survey revealed average on-boarding is about 42 days. -- which is still twice as long as it should be. "waning interest" after 2-3 weeks is spot on! We all understand HR is stressed during these times -- just follow up with us with a simple update. Prolonged "dead air" is disingenuous. I'm still in waiting from a screening I had 100 days ago in September (still shows open on my dashboard). Another screening I had in July took 6 weeks to "sorry charlie". Screenings should only happen to validate intent to interview (basics are verified, salary expectations etc). Q4 is tough, generally nobody hires and sticks out the pain of the vacancy until Q1. Ive seen a few recent Q4 postings that stated on the top "Start date January 10th 2022". This a thoughtful way to do it!

I would still be interviewing with other perspective employers during this whole thing. I’m not going to wait around long.

@ianig9

2 жыл бұрын

After a couple of follow-ups, of course.

@NMN325

2 жыл бұрын

Seriously, people have bills to pay. There needs to be a law on the federal level regarding how long a company or agency should take to hire someone. It should not take more than 30 days to decide who you want. Anything longer than that, companies and agencies should be sanctioned.

You really helped a lot and made me understand the ultimate vision

As a contract web developer I interview for a new job every 6-12 months, and every time I'm usually submitted several dozen places, have a few dozen interviews, and usually come up with 2-6 job offers. I'll get interviews and job offers as short as 24 hours, and as long as two months. I usually accept a job within a week or two, so when I get a response after that I make sure they know they're too late and too slow.

@avarice4556

2 жыл бұрын

Where do you go to find these contract jobs?

@CmdrShepardsPie

2 жыл бұрын

@@avarice4556 I put my resume on various job boards and LinkedIn, and I have recruiters at various staffing agencies that contact me regularly.

@avarice4556

2 жыл бұрын

@@CmdrShepardsPie You put your resume on LinkedIn? Mhm, sounds like you've already been established for awhile to get that much work. This is coming from a novice btw. I've got my first kind of web development interview coming in next week. Creative Assistant of Development or whatever.

@dzhero3752

2 жыл бұрын

Becareful mate; if you apply too often; and you refuse their job; you will be blacklisted by that company. There are only so much companies out there; and soon you will ran out of companies to apply for. This happened to me; got an offer; I refused it; and 5 years later; I applied to the same company; and guess what; the same hiring manager gave me a finger (through a friend of mine who works for him). So becareful mate; only apply for jobs if you need one; don't play with your chances.

@CmdrShepardsPie

2 жыл бұрын

@@dzhero3752 I’ve definitely seen that effect. I’ve been doing this about 16 years and seen the dynamic and my prospects change. I try to be more careful and selective now, but it can honestly be hard to say no with some recruiters promising the moon and pushing for it “just to see what happens, no obligation” but then being surprised when I have or take other options. I really learn not to trust what most recruiters say and go with my gut and turn down most things. Still though, there are very few jobs I want so I usually just go with whatever for whoever pays the best and starts the soonest.

A complex process that takes time is understandable. What is not understandable is keeping the candidate in the dark while this is happening. The bare minimum requirement for companies that take candidates seriously is to provide updates and the best available estimation of when they'll communicate a final outcome.

@Dan210871

7 ай бұрын

@jonny_laguna I disagree. It is possible for multiple people and/or departments needing to agree on a single candidate (e.g. reporting line to one manager and dotted line to another in a different silo). Some processes are inherently complex. What we don't need is HR making that worse by adding opacity.

There are a couple painful points in this for me, particularly around the higher than pay-band expectations. I know (seen the numbers) that the work I've done for past employers has been worth in the 8 figures ... so it is frustrating to be forced into the 5 figure pay-band at that time!

Excellent video! Well done.

At least some of you got answered back. I have interviewed 21 times this year. Still have not heard back from any. Two of them I actually called back because I was really interested in the position. They said job was taken better luck next time.

When I was a manager part of the job was doing interviews and they were in person. Can't just go by paperwork only because people will slant things to make them sound better. Hiring someone sight unseen causes more problems when turns out the actual person does not fit. Myself had an interview when I moved to another state, they had me come back in four times in a month period. The actual sit-down with the plant manager was when I found out how they treated employees (I deplore the associate moniker label) my child had a physical condition that required several surgeries and when the manager told me the job came first and family second, I ended the final interview with a thanks but no thanks. I turned down $60,000+ job and took a lessor $30,000 that was fine with time needed for tending to the medical of my child.

After 3 interviews and company tour, I was sent an email from the HR Director informing me that that are about to make an offer to me. They also asked for my "must haves". It's now been 3 days since my response back. I am in limbo!

I was referred to this posting by the ED of the very organization that I want to work for. Got my first interview, went to one of the sites for observation per their request, got my 2nd interview. Everything so far seemed so promising. Then i waited past the deadline they said they would give an update. I contacted them twice to get an answer. Turned out they gave the job to someone else. Wish they hadn't wasted so much of my time leading me on.

Just finished 4 interview rounds and a presentation for a company. In my opinion I did well in all of the interviews with the directors as well as the presentation. I was told they were going to move fast and make a decision soon. One week goes by and I ask for an update. Told by HR they were finishing last interviews with other candidates and that the hiring manager would likely make a decision next week. This waiting game feels like an eternity...fingers crossed though

@dzhero3752

2 жыл бұрын

Yep; am in similar position; however had only one interview; and the hiring manager made a verbal offer; and now a weeky by and waiting.... it sucks :)

@netayconnection6236

9 ай бұрын

Did you get the role?

I am right in this situation. I had 1st interview in Oct 21 then proceeded to 2nd interview in Nov 21. Suddenly I was informed that there are some delay process due to year end as everyone was busy for end year closing. Then I asked the recruiter team and I was told that I am the selected candidate and now waiting for the official offer letter. I am so frustated and it definitely slows down my current work motivation.

@stanleychan3571

2 жыл бұрын

How did it go in the end?

@beemm5061

Жыл бұрын

So they really give official offer at the end? And how long it take?

@blacknavy4581

Жыл бұрын

Yes they finally did. Turned out there was a lot of changes in the management team and they had to postpone up to beginning of upcoming year. If they decide you will be hired after Q3, somehow you have to expect that things would be slower as year end they usually have lots of deadlines and reports to do.

@SoufyAsth

7 ай бұрын

@blacknavy4581 Interesting. it is year end and am waiting for the final decision but I have been shortlisted with another candidate. But yeah they are busy and that warned me that they would be very busy.

As an employee waiting for a job offer you never stop looking while waiting for an offer to come. They could find someone at the last minute they like better than you. The budget may not have been 100% approved yet for the salary. They are waiting for a higher manager to sign off on the hire. Any number of things can hold up the hiring of the job. So, even if you are on the short list keep looking. Don't say anything to the current target company that you are hoping will come through for you. Keep interviewing assuming that you will not get that job and maybe you will go in front of a hiring manager that will have an immediate need, is able to offer the job, has the authority to hire and be able to approve the hire. Never stop looking. It is like searching for a sales lead. You never know when the next lead will come through. In this case a hiring lead.

Unless your company is tier 1 in its industry and the unemployment rate is super high, I would recommend these companies make their offer within days. Waiting weeks is a prima Donna move that will cost you valuable employees. I think this amount of dithering would only work with senior level executive positions.

Great breakdown of the process!! I too am like many still waiting to hear back from the company I interviewed strongly with. The Operations Manager and I both hit it off immediately. We both shared the same ideals about the needs of the business. Then, the second interview went just as well with the VP. Now, I know it's only been just over a week, but the waiting is crazy. You know you are a good fit when all things align and you walk away so confident. Oh well, let's see what happens.

@johnydaddy4195

Жыл бұрын

So, what's the actual result status now, bro? Don't say you're still waiting for it yet, lol

@jazzman9469

Жыл бұрын

@@johnydaddy4195 Still waiting sadly. Even had a fourth interview just a few weeks ago. I have applied at other companies, but this process seems to take forever.

Image if you got an offer and waited a few weeks as they wanted to go through process on other candidates to only revoke your offer. That would be a tough phonecall on both sides. 'hi, about that offer we made you. We decided not to look at people's knowledge, skills and experience but instead just give it to the CEO's nephew. I hope you like unemployment and poverty, bye'.

@myimperium1

2 жыл бұрын

Been in a similar situation to that

@Minimalici0us

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@vuyisilegabuza4178

Жыл бұрын

Can I ask, what it really meant a job interview email: “You’re invited to this interview based on your current skills & experience” later after interview, got email to do fingerprints, then following week, HR calls for docs, & final say: “I will come back to you, let me speak to my manager”. Then boom Silence & it’s been 2 days now.

Hi Brian, love ur videos! I just wonder if you can also make a video about what to do when the company you applied to put your job application on hold (due to internal restructure)?

I think he posted on another video it would be nice to not only accept an offer but have a 2 week paid vacation before starting the position. Some companies are doing this now so you don't just go from one role you ended and starting a new position without any sort of reset. I think 2-3 weeks from the start of the process to an offer should be acceptable and still close the deal otherwise talent is going to walk on them if you have multiple offers you're considering.

Thanks for the insight! Have been waiting for 3 weeks already for my offer... Hoping that they could respond a bit faster...

Email them and ask for the timeline and when can I expect the offer. Like if they can’t give you a direct timeline it might be better to move on and apply for more job. I honestly wouldn’t give more then a week before I apply for a job

This is so helpful!

This video brought piece to my heart It’s been 3 days after a call offer and I asked for better salary and they didn’t get back to me yet.. I’m freaking out

Better to set expectations slightly on the low side than on the high side.

I'm in this situation. I applied almost a month ago, made it to the final round after lots of effort and now I'm just waiting... I know my value and I'm continuing to apply to other jobs. It's not my job to keep pestering them, and if I get another good offer I can either take it and stop waiting or hold off long enough to use it as leverage.

Excellent. one other issue in some companies we need client approval like security checks since information is restricted. They to must approve your hiring to their budget. I've seen that stall many people because they need to internally apply to fund you.

I waited three weeks after being told both interviews went good, but still got denied due to lack of experience. So mad.

Last summer a staffing company had me do a Skype interview that same morning for a position inspecting building for insurance quotes. They promised they would reach a hire decision that afternoon. Fast forward two whole months; they called me and asked me if I was still interested in the position. I said no, mentioned when a decision should have been made and how this was extremely poor candidate experience this was. However, I stayed professional and polite the whole time.

@user-lu6yg3vk9z

2 жыл бұрын

Never use staffing /temp agencies they slimy shits

@kelc-1373

Жыл бұрын

Good job telling them what they should do in the future. It’s not okay to waste people’s time, especially when their livelihood is at stake.

At my last job, I was contacted by a recruiter then didn't hear anything for a month. Turned out they did a bunch of internal re-org, and the manager I initially would have supported was laid off... but I ended up working for his replacement. Now I'm 3 interviews deep with a company, and this started mid-November. I last heard from the recruiter 2 weeks ago to see if I was still interested in the position. I'm guessing everything is on hold until after the holidays. I know one of the VPs was traveling and I haven't been able to interview with him yet. They knew my salary expectations before the first interview, so I'm pretty sure that's not the hold-up. Just leaving this all here for anyone who may be in a similar situation.

@asadb1990

2 жыл бұрын

i personally don't bother with companies that have more than one in person interview. my time is valuable.

@YouTubePurgetheblackplague

2 жыл бұрын

They're an abusive company that's not organized and not focused on the employees.

The biggest reason you are waiting for your offer after seemingly everything else has been completed is they are shopping for candidates. They probably have some other candidates they think might be potentially even better but they haven't completed the process with them. And if you think about it, candidates do the same thing. Candidates will usually apply to a number of companies and will try to get at least couple offers in hopes they can select the best offer they can. My advice would be to let them know you have put in your notice at your current place and self imposed a deadline for your decision. You don't have to say more than that, they will figure out you have other offers you are considering. If they want to hire you they will usually expedite the process after hearing it.

There's just way too many variables, plus every company is different. In my current role at a company of over 500 people, they came back to me the next day after my interview requesting referees, and when those were done, the offer was in my inbox ready to sign. Expecting a candidate to wait for weeks for a promised offer I don't think is a reasonable time frame, and is likely a sign this is not a company you'd want to work for.

I got an offer same day of an interview and I've waited weeks in other cases

This is me right now. They told me that I had passed the interview and I was the best candidate for the job. I even took medical tests since it is one of their pre-employment requirements. Since my last medical test at their facility, I haven't heard from the recruiter for a week and a half. The recruiter was not even replying to my messages. It's so disheartening and irritating. I don't know how long I will wait for this job. It's really my dream job.

@yyysamuel3215

Жыл бұрын

how about now? did u get the offer?

@NEILALEXANDERMADRIGAL

Жыл бұрын

@@yyysamuel3215 Yes... I think the HR only replies when he wants.

@elliemay_4th_st

Жыл бұрын

Happy for you!

Last Wednesday I interviewed. Asked a question I never asked before (was it you that advised it? I watch too many interviewing vids). I asked after a great conversation, “Is there anything I said or didn’t say that would make you feel less than 100% that I’m the best fit for this position?” The answer was no, I understand your qualifications, etc., meaning I am completely qualified. He said they’d make a decision same day. Thought I was going to get the green light by 5 pm. Nothing happened. Thursday happened, then Friday. The agency told me they’d make a decision that day, then nothing lol. Spending the weekend wondering if I’ll get it. Prepared for a yes or a no.

@dailyswag8970

2 жыл бұрын

Keep your options open. This company is showing you early they’re not congruent with their word.

@JustMe99999

Жыл бұрын

Did you end up getting an offer?

How much time frame should you give if the recruiter gives you an offer but you want to think about it because of other offers?

I've noticed how the interview process is longer and they will tell you it is long. Before you even interview, they tell you that you will meet this person in 2 weeks and then the next person during "this week" and so on. I have heard 4-8 weeks! I've been "working" with a company to bring me on since December! That is coming up on 6 months!

I used to send thank-you notes to try and speed things along and stay on their brain. However, it never worked. The worst job I ever had was the one who took the longest to extend an offer. They hired 2 people ahead of me who had quit, and my offer came 30 days later after those people didn’t work out. It’s obvious the company was the problem.

Yep they push you through a process at break neck speed and then they crawl things over the finish line...

If it takes more than a week before you hear back from an interview, you probably aren't getting the job. You aren't the primary offer recipient.

My interview was taken by VP at first round. It lasted more than its scheduled time. At the end of call he told who all are in team and what work I will be doing. Asked weather k worked previously in weekends finally said Hr will get back to me with next steps. It’s been over a week now. I tried contacting HR but no response from her. Company is very renowned and role is super cool. Daily I am waking up with an anxiety and checking my phone after notification sound…

@aishah5244

Жыл бұрын

Did you get the job? 😅

Thanks for the insight. I have been an Upwork contractor for 14 years and the offer is usually instant or would take 3 days max before you get an offer or rejection. As I move forward looking for job outside Upwork, I was shocked how long to get a response. You also have to undergo a few rounds in the hiring process which involves multiple interview, exams, and assignments. Frankly, its exhausting and also demotivating to get a rejection after committing to the hiring process. Nonetheless, you gotta do what gotta do to the land an offer.

Wow -- what a great and insightful video! You explained so much that I have been wondering about with #candidateExperience

Don't keep your hopes, patience and time all in one basket. Keep applying to other jobs until you get an interview and an offer in a timley manner. There are many companies out there that have their shit together. The info he is giving has truth to it but not your responsibility to make up for a company's shortcomings due to: inept/lazy HR Department, idiot managers and cheap/slow software or a company paying you less than the original offer.

@TGWMPE

Жыл бұрын

There are companies that have the ability to hire people promptly. There are also many companies that hire in a very slow and inefficient manner. They waste their time and display incompetence.