Had to censor a naughty word that I called Brynn. Fair enough, but I'd hardly say it's undeserved. If you're gonna act super shitty to the person who's boyfriend you stole while they are ACTIVELY SAVING YOUR LIFE, you are indeed an insufferable...

@filerecovery5319

Жыл бұрын

walnut. Insufferable walnut.

@keyofdestiny857

Жыл бұрын

If Jacob dies in Mass Effect 2 the mission that he appears in Mass Effect 3 plays out mostly the same his replacement doesn’t even die in the end making Jacob a casualty that doesn’t matter unlike some of the other squad that could having a impact of story Jacob’s death really doesn’t have any consequences on Mass Effect 3.

@tepidwater5970

Жыл бұрын

VOLUME OF RECORDING IS VERY LOW. JUST LETTING YOU KNOW

@libertyprime5923

Жыл бұрын

When it come to buffoons like Brynn who think they have it all figured out just smile and say good luck with that and give them a pat on the back before walking away because sooner or later reality will hit and that's when the pain starts

@user-gm5hp6xd1y

Жыл бұрын

"People of colour" you say? So i asume all white people (no matter of ethnicity) are "Colourless" it's quite a racist quote i think you should apologize for that.

I saw a poll a while ago on Mass Effect romances Jacob was voted worse than Morinth, a character that literally kills you. Death is a preferable option to Jacob.

@SoaringDragon562

Жыл бұрын

At least Morinth has the good grace to do it quickly and give you a game over screen. Jacob’s kills your spirit slowly and painfully over the course of the entire game.

@luxjackson8866

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but Morinth is an intergalactic goth domme, and Jacob is just... A guy... A boring guy.

@zeroattentiongaming820

Жыл бұрын

Morinth is death by snoo snoo, is it really surprising that would be a popular option?

@cc0767

Жыл бұрын

TBF Morinth romance is incredible, sure its short but the energy between her an renegade shepard is real

@WickedPrince3D

Жыл бұрын

That's actually hilarious, but then again you CAN romance Morinth who has some sex-appeal, you can't romance her mother Samara really, and hardly anyone other than Kasumi thinks Jacob has sex appeal. I almost think they introduced her as a DLC character just to try to hype up Jacob.

In Mass Effect 2: - Miranda: The perfect human. - Mordin: The smartest Salarian scientist. - Garrus: The Batman of Omega. - Zaeed: The toughest human mercanary alive. - Jack: The most powerful human biotic. - Grunt: The purest Krogan. - Tali: The most talented Quarian engineer. - Thane: The deadliest assassin in the galaxy. - Samara: The ancient Asari warrior monk. - Kasumi: The best thief in the galaxy. - Legion: An actual walking talking Geth! - Jacob:... Was also there.

@radicalhonesty8244

2 жыл бұрын

Illusive man says "He's former alliance, One of the best" Shepard should say "Bitch if i've never heard of him, No he isn't"

@Terminator850

2 жыл бұрын

Garrus isn't the Batman of Omega. Garrus is the Punisher of Omega.

@Weiswolfe

2 жыл бұрын

-Jacob: The Guy

@beastalchemistVA

2 жыл бұрын

Miranda has a gap in her teeth

@beastalchemistVA

2 жыл бұрын

Legion: the internet in a body!

Every time I think about Jacob, I think about how we couldve had a Batarian engineer squad mate. And instead, they went with Jacob.

@shadowdragonvii

4 ай бұрын

Teammate demographics really peaked with ME2... wish we had more interactions with Batarians besides just someone to shoot at us or yell at us or just be angry with us...

@CG-zl6kx

4 ай бұрын

​@@shadowdragonviiI really liked that interaction with the batarian patient in omega when you choose to save him from that disease. Would have liked to see more batarians written in that light.

@planescaped

4 ай бұрын

I'd have preferred a rock stupid Vorcha crack addict as a party member over Jacob, it'd be funny/interesting at least. lol

@PhazonInfuser

4 ай бұрын

​@@CG-zl6kxThey kinda do. Remember in ME3, some of the lore talks about how, once the Batarians were free from the constant oppressive propoganda of their government, they were much more willing to work with other races and show a level of commitment to galactic society as a whole.

@AdblockWillWin7853

3 ай бұрын

A Batarian engineer squad mate would have been cool. And we got the walking embodiment of "meh" instead.

"You travel with fascinating companions, T'soni. But why is Jacob here?"

@theduke9292

17 күн бұрын

“You travel with fascinating companions Doctor. Commander sheapard I should be honored. And…uh…” “My names Jacob.” “Cool. Anyway.”

" the only black main human character is the only one who cheats on you, gets a girl knocked up out of wedlock, has a missing father, and his loyalty mission deals with slavery" ... *B R U H*

@Zmargo702

Жыл бұрын

Bro has serious issues unrelated to Jacob and Mass Effect lmaoo

@zachw2538

Жыл бұрын

100% not racist. Im irish so i can relate to all of these things.

@Zmargo702

Жыл бұрын

@@zachw2538 I’m Irish too but he specifically prefaced all of these descriptions that he made with, “the only black character”, so I mean. He said what he meant.

@aprinnyonbreak1290

Жыл бұрын

I mean. Uh. Grunt... never got along with his "father" either? I'm trying hard here. Uhm.

@dontworryaboutit5490

Жыл бұрын

He’s waysis for tewwing the twoof

Ironically, Jacob and Thane could’ve had actual genuine conflict, since Jacob resents his absentee father and Thane IS one. But nah he’s a PRECISE MERCENARY which is much worse apparently.

@SleepingGiant45

2 жыл бұрын

Wow. I never thought of that. Missed opportunity right there. Would've been great. But then again, squadmates not talking to each other is one of the worst aspects of ME2. Hell, even in ME3, Jack calls Mordin "the Salarian" in Grissom Academy. I remember thinking, jeez, you spent almost a year together on one ship, doing missions together, and you built no bond whatsoever? Hell, take Tali and Garrus with you to meet Liara in Illium and they just stand there not saying a damn word.

@Mysticgamer

2 жыл бұрын

@@SleepingGiant45 I really loved how in ME3, you can walk in on squadmates and crew conversing with one another.

@kurzor0007

2 жыл бұрын

Exploring this conflict between the two would have been far better for Jacob's characterization, probably not on Jack and Miranda's catfight level but at least far more interesting than what we currently have with Jacob

@currumpaw4865

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, they added too many characters in ME2 and there was way too many missed opportunities for conflict between other characters. Grunt and Mordin is another one that would've been interesting to see.

@danielcooper3332

2 жыл бұрын

@@currumpaw4865 They actually recorded voice lines for a conflict between Mordin and Grunt but cut them.

We can confirm here on the Citadel that Jacob has the personality of used Omni-gel.

@jeremyallen5974

5 ай бұрын

That's an insult, Omni-gel is actually USEFUL

@dudeguyman96

13 күн бұрын

PP is perfect, well done.

@nathanielgarza9198

7 күн бұрын

Used Omni gel has personality because it’s utility of it used and what it was eventually used for shaped an interesting story

@c-secofficer123

7 күн бұрын

@@nathanielgarza9198 like bypassing the AI on Noveria. So helpful

A romanceable character cheating on the main character is an interesting idea and would be pretty intriguing to explore if they did it well, you don't actually see that very often in games. Here it's just like "Oh, so he is an asshole. Anyway!"

@theladycata9648

6 ай бұрын

I love the idea of it because there’s so much opportunity for character drama there that they totally brushed over. I like cute fluffy romances but my favorites are usually the dark twisted ones since they’re more interesting. I guess I do like how Jacob cheats on you but only because it gives me a lot of room for interesting headcanon, not because the writers actually did anything interesting with it. Maybe if people liked him more then they would have bothered

@NumbDigger22

6 ай бұрын

Fella is into NTR lol

@walterkrueger5947

6 ай бұрын

It could work if it was Liara, Kaiden, or Ashley since Shepard died, it could have made things very interesting.

@JeanneCutieJ

4 ай бұрын

​@@walterkrueger5947the thing is most of the characters in the game don't seem like the type to cheat, ESPECIALLY Liara (in my humble opinion). So it makes sense for Bioware to have the most boring, shit character do that but it was still such a shit move

@valor1omega

3 ай бұрын

Ashley kinda destroyed any relationship she could have had with how she treated us. I don't consider it cheating when I hooked up with Tali in 2&3. Hell if Tali was an option in ME1 I would never romanced Ash. As to Jacob he is like the unreliable guy everyone knows so it's not much of a surprise he does what he did in ME3.

Homie, you forgot to mention that Kaidan remained single for two years if you were to rekindle that romance. Ashley as well. Dedication!

@zackcook5123

2 жыл бұрын

Good lord your right me I hated Ashley the most of ME1, least she grew. Although granted half my hatred was due to a bug shed repeat the animals comment exclusively even on the Normandy.

@lancelusco7448

2 жыл бұрын

Also if you are male shep Kaiden still wants you I was like wow didn’t see that coming lol

@davidrosensin7985

2 жыл бұрын

Ashley and Kaiden were single because they dump you. While I do think that they are both better than Jacob, saying that they remained single (also their words, not like we can know for 100%) means nothing when you reunite with them happy and looking forward to your love only to have them disrespect, distrust and abandon you.

@TheMoinomedian

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidrosensin7985 I wouldn't say Shepard greeted them on Horizon with love, it seemed more like Shep was greeting a distant friend than a lover. And I may be wrong but I do remember Kaidan emailing you in ME2 about how his buddies want him to move on, and finishing the email off with leaving the door open for a romance to continue after your mission. But I could seriously be wrong about that. And he mentions while in the hospital bed in ME3 that he remained single and still cares for you. I don't remember nothing about how Ashley was, been too long since I romanced her.

@davidrosensin7985

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheMoinomedian Never romanced Kaiden so can't comment there. For Ashely on Horizon she comes out, explains who you are to that rando and he fucks off. Shepard and Ashely hug, Shepard tells her he missed her. The conversation basically steers towards wanting her on the Normandy because he loves her. She says that he works for Cerberus and they're pieces of shit as well as there being no way for her to know if you really are still Shepard. She then fucks off. I don't remember if she explicitly dumps you, but it's pretty heavily implied.

>Play femshep >Talk to Jacob >Instantly listen to you character flirting with him for no reason at all >Never talk to him again.

@megamike15

Жыл бұрын

thank god there is a mod that makes it so the flirt option and the normal paragon option are now sperated.

@xXN0SK1LLZXx

Жыл бұрын

Basically my first and last time talking to him as femshep

@melba303

Жыл бұрын

Yessss gosh that moment was when I made my option about a Jacob and he did nothing to change it.

@churchA.I

Жыл бұрын

I just don't talk to him until his loyalty mission just to In case prevent casualties, and it's an interesting mission

@cheshirecat1611

Жыл бұрын

same. I was like: woah, I don't want that!!!!

In case anyone forgot, Jacob literally has his own spinoff game: Mass Effect: Galaxy. It was an IOS game released between ME1 and ME2, and covers the only part of his backstory he'll actually talk about in ME2 (him and Miranda saving the Citadel from terrorists). Because of this, he was one of the first squadmates from ME2 you could learn anything about. He got literally has a whole spinoff where we could learn more about him, and even in that game he still has literally nothing going on. What a disaster.

@planescaped

4 ай бұрын

It is odd how heavily Bioware pushed Jacob, like they thought he'd be some kind of breakout character...

@radityapoerwanto7018

4 ай бұрын

​@@planescaped It was an era where many Game companies are trying to make a Black MC, yet somehow none of them managed to write an interesting one.

@AdblockWillWin7853

3 ай бұрын

Also, its an IOS game, so no good reason to care to begin with.

Kasumi had it hard enough being a DLC character who was cut out from the original game only to be re-inserted, but then they make her a Jacob simp to make Jacob seem cooler lol

@darthlazurus4382

3 ай бұрын

In fairness, I think it was both a physical attraction due tae Kasumi being thirsty and a great amount of pity as Jacob is pathetic.

Jacob digs at Thane for being an Assassin Jacob, you work for the terrorist organization that is responsible for the deaths of Shepard's entire platoon on Akuze, you don't have much room to talk

@Lvl1.Sentry

2 жыл бұрын

Thats only if you play the Sole Survivor background. I always go for Ruthless. Damn Batarians.

@deltahalo241

2 жыл бұрын

@@Lvl1.Sentry I mean, Akuze happens whether Shepard was there or not. Even if Shepard has a different background, Jacob is still willingly working for a group that organized the murder of an entire platoon of Alliance marines and then more after that.

@Lvl1.Sentry

2 жыл бұрын

@@deltahalo241 I meant that more as the OG commenter was aiming that towards a Sole Survivor Shepard. Whereas I was just saying that comment wouldn`t effect a War Hero/Ruthless Shepard that much. But it still is true that Jacob is working for murderers.

@josefmengele181

Жыл бұрын

@@Lvl1.Sentry 👏 👏

@cjvaye99

Жыл бұрын

also his apparent beef was 'I dont know about you but my loyalties go beyond my next check' completely ignoring the fact that Thane said he will work for free. Jacob = moron.

"New Year, New Me" -Says random woman about to romance Garrus again for the 50th time.

@pikmonwolf

2 жыл бұрын

100% guilty of this whenever I play femshep lol.

@StLuxiya

2 жыл бұрын

Romancing Garrus is the law for Femshep. It is known

@80krauser

2 жыл бұрын

Biotic FemShep: Liara all the way. Otherwise Garrus is her one true love.

@AbstractTraitorHero

2 жыл бұрын

@@StLuxiya I would have gone Tali if it was an option.

@wilmagregg3131

2 жыл бұрын

same here but with tali i just cant not do the best romance in gaming the second best being curie from fallout 4

A detail that you didn't mention about the ME2 romance is that if you're in a love triangle, Jacob is the only one who insults the others and is instantly possessive of Shepard. He calls Garrus a "cuttlebone" and Thane a "pair of sad eyes", and is angry if you reject him. Compare his reaction to Garrus who gives Shepard a billion opportunities to back out, and is pleasantly surprised to be picked over the others, or Thane who is very respectful and a gentleman about every decision Shepard makes, while being on a death clock. They don't insult Jacob. It's not even that Jacob hooked up with someone else that is my issue. Yeah, from a player's perspective it's annoying; you want the NPCs to be your obedient drones that don't screw with your plans. But realistically, was that quick shag to blow off steam before maybe their final mission really a marriage proposal? I don't think it was. But Jacob was instantly jealous and possessive, so it seemed like he was committed. That's what made him cheating so bad in my eyes.

@MrChickennugget360

8 ай бұрын

one thing that got on my nerves with Jacob was him acting like an expert on the Geth for having fought them on Eden Prime. Like Bitch i was there two and i fought thousands after word all over the verge. I think that Jacob wanting to space legion would have been. better written if Jacolb had spent the last 3 years fighting the Geth at least that would give him more reason to dispise them rather than than "fighting them on Edon Prime"

@anneshepard

7 ай бұрын

Had no idea he insulted Garrus. Didn’t know I could dislike him even more.

@bend6919

7 ай бұрын

@@anneshepard He dropped the C-bomb no less 😂 Bro, you ain't got the fringe for the C-word pass

@DaytonaRoadster

6 ай бұрын

He uses a racial slur on Garrius, but I'm sure he would be ok if you called him a Nigg...

@IronVigilance

6 ай бұрын

And then he proceeds to see someone else in mass effect 3

I won’t call Kaidan boring. He is a wonderful character and I absolutely love him in the ME3. But even in ME1 he is a good character: kind, caring, respectful, righteous. IMHO his only problem is that he is overshadowed by very charismatic alien squadmates like Garrus, Tali, Liara, Jack, Thain, Mordin

@mr.figgles9482

5 ай бұрын

I really grew to like Kaidan in ME3, as in he’s one of my favourites. Garrus is great, a close and competent friend you can have total trust in at all times. You comfortably have each others’ backs, ride or die. As ME3 went on I began to think of Kaidan like a brother. He isn’t totally competent, the bond isn’t one of unbreakable trust like with Garrus. It feels more like family. You know Kaidan, you know how much he wants to do the right thing, and in my case that won me over. He’s trying to find his way, and he’s looking to you for guidance. As much as he distrusts you at times, he’s always incredibly vulnerable with you, like you’ve known each other so long that it’s meaningless to hide. Garrus is the kind of friend you shoot the shit with, Kaidan is the kind of person you spend time with, if that makes any sense.

@oatjuice5921

5 ай бұрын

i havent played in a couple of months and didnt have all crew names fresh in my mind took me like 2 minutes to realize you meant thane

@optillian4182

4 ай бұрын

I romanced him in my second playthrough. He's an absolute gentleman. I want to be like him.

@Blazieth

4 ай бұрын

Honestly, Kaidan is more boring by comparison. He's a human squadmate, and one without major personality issues. He has some bad history, but while he's willing to open up and talk about it, it's not something that tortures him. He's largely made peace with it; he's simply willing to talk about it if asked. He's largely professional, and even one of his biggest "weaknesses" is fairly plain - his older implant gives him migraines. It's not that Kaidan is _BORING._ It's that... well, he's human, and isn't a complete psychopath or cartoon character, in a cast of alien species.

@Touriquette

4 ай бұрын

​@@BlaziethI like that he fills the archetype of 'Everyman', especially when you compare him to other human teammates and npcs. I like to imagine that he quite neatly represents what most enlist human servicemen are like personality wise. And considering the quest in ME1 with human biotics that got dealt a bad hand, he feels like a good foil in many moments. All in all, my opinion boils down that 'I wouldn't have minded spending more time with him', and I think that's ok.

"If you send Jacob in the vents, he dies." Seems like he gave pretty good advice to me!

@Petaurista13

2 жыл бұрын

Walkthrought: "Don't send anybody but Tali or Legion to the vent. They will die" Players: "Jacob? There is hole in the wall with your name on it. Hop inside, quick."

@RykersRange

2 жыл бұрын

@@Petaurista13 Yep and HE is the one that volunteers! BYE JACOB

@hortator1844

2 жыл бұрын

Das rite! Heavy risk

@Loona10

2 жыл бұрын

Omg haha

@appelofdoom8211

2 жыл бұрын

The best part about that is that there's no consequence for picking a bad 1st firesquad leader meaning you can pick jack just to mess with Miranda

It’s telling that by ME3, I felt more loyalty from Zaeed than Jacob. Also, my condolences to FemShep players who romanced Jacob and expected to continue that in ME3.

@pikmonwolf

2 жыл бұрын

Zaeed has the dignity to save you some bacon. Jacob would never.

@mxmissy

2 жыл бұрын

I'm lucky I'm hard Garrus-mancer that imagine, ME2 comes out you find Jacob appealing so you romance him, you finish the game, maybe play some more, then ME3 comes out, you're excited to continue your romance with Jacob, and then you get to see him and every other character gets their "hi I miss you, yes please let's continue this romance" and you meet Jacob and he's cheated on you... with another woman... who is standing like 5 feet from you... and he knocked her up... and he did nothing while you were in prison. What a massive slap to the face.

@Wolf10media

2 жыл бұрын

*bro handshake* Thank you.

@me5969

2 жыл бұрын

Let’s be honest, no one romanced him. Boring Alenko aside most of the female player base seem to be into zoophilia.. although that could just be because the two humans were mind numbingly dull.

@motomoto6541

2 жыл бұрын

I don't feel bad, they went out of their way to romance a boring potato.

If Richard Leroy Jenkins survived Mass Effect's tutorial mission he would have singlehandedly dealt with the reapers himself.

I loved the way you said "I would never romance Jacob." It was in the same tone of voice as "I would never set an orphanage on fire." But yeah, I'd defend Kai Leng as not worse than Jacob because Kai Leng is very funny, I have actually lost in combat with him because I was laughing. Jacob doesn't even have that!

@Flarefan60

Жыл бұрын

If you're referring to Thessia, you're not allowed to win. Seriously, if you manage to kill him the game is softlocked.

@JimboPb05

6 ай бұрын

​@@Flarefan60 That's funny, I might try that.

@Dark_3333

4 ай бұрын

​@@Flarefan60I almost killed him before the helicopter or whatever it is came to blind me

@mettawatkutaninwat5411

4 ай бұрын

Also Kai Leng boss fight is literally just a reskin Phantom with beefier shield.

@AdblockWillWin7853

3 ай бұрын

@@Dark_3333 the Harrier rifle did some work on him. I guess the reload spared me from softlocking the game; I didn't even know that could could happen. I _did_ have a save fucked up because of some weird falling/jumping animation in the cockpit of the Normandy, though.

"There is no reason to use him once you awaken the krogan." Let's be honest here. Its Grunt. He was on his way to replace Jacob the moment you adopted him.

@davidrosensin7985

2 жыл бұрын

heh heh heh

@barrywhittingham6154

2 жыл бұрын

That's 'cause Grunt is the ultimate wingman. Even with all the breeding requests, he still makes sure there's one for Shepard.

@jaycehaste

2 жыл бұрын

lol I literally replace him as soon as I get Zaeed on Omega. Jacobs only gets used during the first mission his loyalty mission then never again

@davidrosensin7985

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaycehaste Honestly if I could not use Jacob during the first mission that would also be ideal.

@owainraysor5108

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidrosensin7985 hell if I could just kill his dad while Jacob kept staring at the guns in the Normandy, I wouldn’t care

He's especially lame when you consider he wasn't officially part of the squad Cerberus intended for Shep to pursue from the dossiers. The dude was a glorified security guy. Miranda was always meant to be XO but he just snuck his way onto the Normandy after the attack on Lazarus Station and decided not to leave.

@pikmonwolf

2 жыл бұрын

Haha I hadn't considered that. Even TIM doesn't respect Jacob.

@spectralevolution

2 жыл бұрын

HOLY SHIT!!! I've played through the whole trilogy at least 5 times now and never till now realized that! If the station had never been sabotaged he never would have been on the Normandy. And that motherfucker still had the gall to cheat on femshep?!

@Killzoneguy117

2 жыл бұрын

@@pikmonwolf Literally when you ask TiM about Jacob and Miranda, he gives a whole schpeel on how Miranda is a committed and loyal operative who is willing to do whatever it takes to get the job done but when describing Jacob, he's just like "Jacob's a soldier... idk what else you want me to say. I guess he doesn't really trust me?". Even TiM, Jacob's boss can't think of one interesting quality.

@Mattfromthepast

2 жыл бұрын

Not to mention if he had done his job right the attack on the station would have never happened, someone with no security access took control of the mechs and as security chief that is on him.

@victorpleitez768

2 жыл бұрын

I might get him killed on purpose after learning this lmao.

Kasumi: Jacob is so hot Me: Run Kasumi run for your life

Can we just appreciate the amount of soul put into Garrus? The guy is *the* bro, like a perfect example, best possible.

@marcusblackwell2372

10 ай бұрын

And Liara and Tali are the perfect romances

@ThunderChunky101

10 ай бұрын

All he does is whinge.

@sof0099

6 ай бұрын

​​@@ThunderChunky101I'm on my second playthrough and he doesn't? Unless you mean in ME3 where his homeworld is being attacked and his family is dying and many of his past squadmates die? If he is doing something, he is not whinging, he is calibrating.

@vaevictis2789

6 ай бұрын

​@@marcusblackwell2372meh, Liara was spoiled by writers just for giving an excuse to not make her companion in ME2

@DaytonaRoadster

6 ай бұрын

Best space bro since Chewbacca

Spoilers: Don’t forget when you reunite with him he’s getting his ass kicked, and gets his group of volunteers killed. Everyone else is badass. Kaiden/Ashley promoted then made spectre later. Jack is fighting off a crap ton of soldiers while protecting her students. Grunts leading a squad and has that epic showdown with the rachni. Zaeed is hunting Cerberus agents and helps you. Thane is six months past his death date and saves the Salarian counselor. Kasumi helps you save the Hanar home world. Tali is an admiral and main quest, Garrus is the Turians reaper expert and right hand of the primarch also main quest. Liara is shadow broker and discovered the crucible and main quest. Wrex and Mordin are curing the genophage and main quest. Miranda is dodging assassins and tracking her sister and father and ends up main quest. Samara goes to rescue her daughters and doesn’t really need your help that much and you really only save her from her code or a temple full of banshees. Jacob got shot by a Cerberus trooper.

@pikmonwolf

2 жыл бұрын

Hah so true. Not even a centurion, he gets taken out by a generic grunt.

@LeBurgerVegan

2 жыл бұрын

Why is this so true :')

@friendsforfood96

2 жыл бұрын

And literally everyone gets shot. He's just the only one that's a bitch about it. Remember when Garrus took a rocket to the face and then was like, "Yeah, I could go into the quarantine zone if you need me."

@danielflin3877

2 жыл бұрын

@@friendsforfood96 To be fair, Garrus is a turian. Turians are far tougher than us smooth skins.

@Weiswolfe

2 жыл бұрын

@@danielflin3877 but member, that natural armor is to protect them from the radiactivity of Palaven's sun it doesnt actually protect their organs, but does makes ehem, attractive scars *blushes* lmao

In short: there's a reason why people enjoy picking Jacob for the vents.

@LORD_PINKY_DINKS

2 жыл бұрын

I needed the no one left behind achievement But don't worry he's going in those vents with my next playthrough

@anthonykeller1957

2 жыл бұрын

@@LORD_PINKY_DINKS same

@SoulKiller7Eternal

2 жыл бұрын

No clue why. Jacob is more useful then Miranda.

@SoulKiller7Eternal

2 жыл бұрын

@David Edosomwan I dont hate him. He is actually useful...unlike the cereberus cheerleader that I usually get killed by her father. Miranda can fuck off.

@m1.01zahranormansyah4

2 жыл бұрын

@@SoulKiller7Eternal depends on how you play actually, as Vanguard, Miranda is a power house for me she really useful to destroy shield and armor, now she have both i can bring whoever I want for next squadmate, as for Jacob...I already have a pull, I dont really need a barrier... for defense I rather pick Grunt, he's more interesting and better for defense, so yeah, I dont hate him as a character in ME2, he just so easy to replace.....I dont even need Mordin, but he is an interesting character, so I'll just take him for fun

Jacob's devolution is weird, since he seems like a genuinely nice guy in the tutorial section and then decides that he hates you trying to talk to him when you get to the Normandy. He also has a line about you being married to your job if you try to say you get how he fees about Brynn. Which is at least mean, especially since there's a good chance the player has brought their love interest with them on this random mission and can be immersion breaking if you're trying to play a Shephard who doesn't love being the hero all the time.

The game acknowledges Jacob’s blandness in the lair of the shadow broker.

So when Jacob calls Garrus a cuttlebone he is referring to the bone of a cuttlefish that is put in bird cages as a dietary supplement for pet birds. Humans used to call Turians birds as a slur during the First Contact War. I think Jacob called Garrus a racist slur. Holy shit.

@cozyapustaja8249

2 жыл бұрын

Now imagine if Garrus was dropping n bombs lmao he’d be throwing a fit

@Tomb-G19

2 жыл бұрын

*Ashley loved that* lol JK XD

@arctiwolf857

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah people like to bring of the stereotype thing, but Jacob is actually pretty racist towards just about all the alien squadmates in some way and makes insulting comments about them.

@Chilllaxxinn

2 жыл бұрын

@@cozyapustaja8249 Jacob doesn't have a C word pass haha

@mechanomics2649

2 жыл бұрын

@@arctiwolf857 That doesn't make the carelessness in how Jacob was handled any more okay so I have no idea what your point is.

To Jacob’s credit, he has possibly the greatest and most profound line in all of Mass Effect. “A good deed is like pissing yourself in dark pants. A warm feeling, but nobody notices.”

@zigzaghyena

2 жыл бұрын

I do not at all remember that line and I JUST played through the series again. That sounds way too funny to be him.

@andrewolson5471

2 жыл бұрын

@@zigzaghyena he definitely says it during one of his conversations. I think it's when he mentions his time as a Corsair.

@amaranthofgehenna

2 жыл бұрын

I wrote that in my notes app as soon as I heard him say it lol. It's his only redeeming factor

@jacklambert1521

2 жыл бұрын

@@zigzaghyena You have to ask him about his life as a Corsair. That's when he says it.

@MetallicaRules

2 жыл бұрын

The most profound line is from Javik. “Stand on the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters. The silence is your answer.”

Big agree. Something I read about recently kind of helped me contextualize the reason they did Jacob's dad the way they did, and I wonder if you've seen it, too. Doesn't make me enjoy Jacob by any means, but it makes it make sense. There's some reason to believe that every crew member had a direct opposite that they would eventually fight with, which would force Shepard to intervene to avoid the loss of loyalty. We still have Jack vs Miranda and Tali vs Legion in the game, however, its not hard to see what the other conflicts would have been (especially since some of the dialogue lines you get in game seem to foreshadow this). The idea would be that you would have a fight between Mordin and Grunt about the ethics of the genophage, a fight between Samara and Garrus about whether morality necessitates the violation of the law, and lastly, a fight between Thane, an absentee father who believes people aren't always accountable for their actions and Jacob, the child of an AWOL father who he very much believes is responsible for his actions. Mind you, the fights with Tali, Legion, Jack and Miranda only happen after you've done their loyalty missions, so as much as I hate how hard Jacob is on Thane immediately, it makes more sense to me in the context that they were originally meant to get into a dispute about it which would for better or worse resolve it. This, by no means fixes all the inherent problems with his characterization, but kind of contextualizes some of his weird potshots at Thane and why they felt that they needed to push the fatherhood angle so hard with Jacob. I kind of wish this angle had been pursued, because at least it would have given us a better exploration of how he thinks and feels about things.

@zafelrede4884

Жыл бұрын

You are completely right. I wish we did get more of those fights between crew members. There was a lot of unexplored potential in ME2. Still a great game though.

@sarasunshinemt4444

8 ай бұрын

See, this is why I read thru the comment sections of Mass Effect videos. Y'all will find some aspect that I didn't notice and make me think. I would NEVER have out this all together and now I'm like "how did I MISS THIS?!" Especially as my brother pointed out that it's not the Normandy SR2, it's the Daddy Issues SR lol

@megasocky

6 ай бұрын

He couldve had a major bond moment with Tali after her father dies and they have the whole "when do you stop reacting to your parents and start living" thing

“Kaiden is boring” You take that back 😭

@pikmonwolf

5 ай бұрын

I actually quite like Kaidan, I just wanted to make it clear that even if you thought Kaidan was boring, Jacob was way worse.

And let's not forget that after his loyalty mission if you are wanting a romance, he tells you about Miranda needing a better man than him. He views Miranda needing a good man, but Shepard doesn't? He is saying he isn't good enough for Miranda, but since he thinks less of Shepard, it is ok for him to be with her. That's what I want in a man, someone who thinks other women are better than me and I am just the leftover female to screw and even then he leaves you for someone else. Yeah, I hate Jacob.

@ace0071000

Жыл бұрын

Isn't he pretty open about his reservations vis-a-vis relationship with Shepard? He generally has an issue with self-esteem/self-image in ME2, and that tracks pretty well with his pained reaction if Shepard "convinces" him he's "good enough" only to dump him for someone else.

@delphipriestess9968

Жыл бұрын

"Jacob doesn't know who he is yet but that's not my problem" --Jack

@kainepeterson6638

Жыл бұрын

Kaidan isn’t my kinda guy, but when you get Vega to open up and realize his machismo is from his upbringing in San Diego, and his desire to be seen as a better man than his father, you get him. He’s a character. With thoughts feelings emotions. He has genuine depth and once you peel the machismo off of him, James is a fine young man with a heart of gold, even if his head is thicker than molasses. He genuinely wants what’s best for the Galaxy at large and he is 100% willing to sacrifice his own life in pursuit of that goal.

@katie5998

Жыл бұрын

​​​​@@kainepeterson6638 To add, I think Kaiden is boring because he's literally the only character who has his shit together (in ME1). Kaiden is already a grown man when you meet him, with his own perspectives and his own world views. The only issue he really has is getting over an old love interest and his biotic implants, the former he gets over quickly, the latter he deals with with no complaint and a stoic reservation. Kaiden, why he's boring, is a pretty solid character and person. Even him being angry at Shep for dying for 2 yrs then joining up with Cerberus is understandable. I know a lot of people hate it, but tbh, I saw completely where he was coming from especially given all the horrific BS they found on Cerberus in the previous game. He's a little over emotional, but even that is semi-justifiable when you consider the amount of grief and hardship he endured after Shep's death. You can only play the pragmatist so much, and bro legit just got swarmed by Collectors and paralyzed and then watched his friends be carried off to be harvested. The lid on his emotions is understandably loose given the situation.

@noahduncan5998

Жыл бұрын

Jacob is giving a backhanded remark about Miranda's duplicitousness and how hard it is to get along with her. A "better man" means someone that is willing to put up with her bullshit.

I think Kaiden's struggle with the side effects of his biotic implant and Vega's meathead lifter mindset make them a lot less boring than Jacob, who has biotic abilities and works out, but neither of which he ever seems to talk about

@Petaurista13

2 жыл бұрын

Personalities: Kaiden - struggles with implant. Vega - stereotypical soldier Jacob - stereotypical racist douche bag

@thegrimcroissant

2 жыл бұрын

@@Petaurista13 More like… Kaidan: A biotic who stays focused on his tasks, is respectful to his commander, and doesn’t let his migraines or his past get the best of him (and also becomes the 2nd human spectre if you save him). James: a hardworking soldier who stays loyal to Shepard and is willing to do whatever it takes to complete his mission even if it means sacrificing himself. Jacob: a person who never wants to connect with his squad mates, a cheater who doesn’t feel any remorse for his actions, and someone who’s casually xenophobic (ex. calls Garrus a racial slur and insults Tali about getting along with the AI)

@nullnull4010

2 жыл бұрын

And James’s friendly rivalry against steve cortez is hilarious if you go into the cargo bay

@enaxtry

2 жыл бұрын

Why people ignore Kaidan's story so much? Kaidan was physically abused as a child bcs of forced experiments with unknown new space element. The story is similar to Jack you jsut see 2 different people dealing differently with trauma, Jack was left with anger, rage, sociopathy, but Kaidan was left broken, empty inside and depressed.

@enaxtry

2 жыл бұрын

@@thegrimcroissant Jacob calls Garrus a racial slur? 🤨

The fact that they had you look for the only black guy's absent father is absolutely hilarious

I literally had no idea that Jacob and FemShep had flirtatious dialogue because I never felt the compulsion to speak to him outside of the tutorial and his loyalty mission.

@catlover2223

Ай бұрын

How did you get his loyalty mission without talking to him? Teach me your ways!!

Spoilers: So I've never romanced Jacob, but holy shit his "Well, how long did you expect me to wait?" line was unbelievable. Shepard was on HOUSE ARREST because she had to blow up a relay and kill around 300,000 people to stop the Reapers. Does Jacob not think how much that must weigh on Shepard while she's under arrest? Yes she had to do it, but she killed 300,000 people, and during her arrest period is probably being called a racial terrorist for it (especially if you're playing colonist Shep because people would probably say it was revenge for Mindoir). So she's under military arrest for a war crime she was forced to commit, probably dealing with some serious guilt as well as the weight of knowing the Reapers are still coming, and what does he do? Sits on his ass on a beach for a while, doesn't talk to her, cheats on her, all within 6 MONTHS, then tries to say Shepard is overreacting if she gets upset with him? I never had much of an opinion on Jacob before I saw this video, but with that plus his comment toward Garrus, I might just send him through the vents on my next playthrough.

@funbro99

Жыл бұрын

*meanwhile any torfan shepard worth their salt* Id do it again if I could.

@hibarikyoya854

Жыл бұрын

Excuse me WHAT I thought Jacob was a bit bland compared to the other characters but was just fine his loyalty mission was well done so it makes no sense He'd cheat. Well my opinion of him just went down

@shocker1209081

Жыл бұрын

"To the death vents with you!"

@cfdcfd15

Жыл бұрын

and it was only like 6 months at that point but even the 2 years of everyone thinking you were dead

@RoyHeaven

Жыл бұрын

Ok, I'll try to get into Jacob's head. Afaik, Shepard's detention period wasn't specified. She gets released because the Reapers arrived and she is the only goddamed human who knows how to fight against them. So, as Jacob wasn't sure if she would even get out soon, probably decided to start a new life ahead and not linger too much in the past. Does it make Jacob's actions justified? Imo, no. But it wouldn't be completely unreasonable from his perspective. Obviously, as a recently released Shepard, it's awful as hell.

This literally explains every problem I have with Jacob. I off handedly mention that Brynn better not leave Jacob's sight for more than 5 minutes, or he might run off with another woman.

@pikmonwolf

2 жыл бұрын

For real. it's like she forgot the old adage. "If they'll cheat with you, they'll cheat on you." Definitely seems liek a good idea to have a kid with him right!?

@davidrosensin7985

2 жыл бұрын

Would have been hilarious to me if you could steal Brynn from him.

@mihneaiordan1813

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidrosensin7985 at that point you'd probably get in hot water with the press for racial stereotypes

"I'm not big on forcing these talks Shepard, maybe later" but later never comes

"We need a tech expert" Jacob who isn't a tech expert: "Me. I'll do it" "Did someone just say something?"

I still remember that one meme that was like “before and after Sheppard” and it was like “Grunt: mercenary to leader of his clan”, “Garrus: disgruntled cop to Turian military advisor and archangel” and it went this for all the squadmates and then at the end it just went “Jacob: Jacob…Jacob.”

@zigzaghyena

2 жыл бұрын

You mixed up Wrex and Grunt.

I did something worse to Jacob than letting him take the vent... ...I left him out of the Citadel party.

@zigzaghyena

2 жыл бұрын

I like to think of him as that coworker you just sort of deal with everyday, say hi at work functions, but not even consider them during private events.

@masterzombie161

2 жыл бұрын

The only events to invite him to is the actual Vents.

@mandyayuso9048

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao 🤣

@EvidentlyEezy

2 жыл бұрын

A fate worse than death

@c.jaidewatts2292

2 жыл бұрын

neither jacob nor ashley got an invite to mine lol

"It's your fault I cheated on you Shepard, I got bored on the beach I sat at while you were in lock up." What an a hole

I remember being so desperate for a human romance option as a new ME player that I decided to try romancing Jacob even though I didn’t particularly care for him or any other option. However, he caught the first hint of flirting and awkwardly made me feel like I had violated him somehow. I never again invested an iota in him and moved to Thane. Even though it felt weird.

@sarasunshinemt4444

8 ай бұрын

Yup. Like, you're doing the rounds to talk to them and he's all "already? Feels like we're forcing this". After he said that, I had zero reason to keep coming back. JACK was more welcoming lol

@theladycata9648

6 ай бұрын

See, I accidentally flirted with him and it felt like I’d sexually harassed him so I had to commit in order to avoid getting sent to sensitivity training with Martin Sheen. That bit of roleplaying made it really funny in the next game when he immediately knocked another woman up as soon as I let him out of my sight. I can’t hate Jacob because I did this to myself, I actively chose the worst reason to get into a relationship

@radioactivecrayon7194

4 ай бұрын

Oh man, I'd actually never considered this take before. Like I always thought romancing aliens was the best part of these games, I hadn't considered how terrible the options are for people who might be uncomfortable with that.

@shadowdragonvii

4 ай бұрын

@@radioactivecrayon7194 to be honest, this is what threw me for a loop when I played ME1 (before ME2 even existed) and I wasn't intending to romance Liara. Especially with how "easy" it was to form romance in that game. The only thing I was doing was being open about other races and so anytime Ashley talked about not trusting aliens (can't really call it racist as it made sense) I didn't agree. These "wanting human" feelings dropped though in ME2 when Tali became an option... Her VA did a really amazing job

@CG-zl6kx

4 ай бұрын

That's the same exact part that turned me off from him. Dude was so serious for no reason

Jacob just called arguably the most popular character in Mass Effect a cuttlebone. That's enough of a reason to dislike him.

@zigzaghyena

2 жыл бұрын

He DID volunteer to join a human supremacist group.

@princesssmileyface91

2 жыл бұрын

Agree 😂😂 anyone hates on Garrus, we are throwing hands 😂

@YamiJayX

2 жыл бұрын

Arguably? Unless you're xenophobic there's literally no reason to hate the guy

@romxxii

2 жыл бұрын

@@YamiJayX only other reason I can think of is if you have an irrational hatred of sexy scars and gun calibrations.

@twilightparanormalresearch186

2 жыл бұрын

@@romxxii I loves those

One thing to add to the fact that it impregnates the scientist. He decides to do so in anticipation of the final war for the fate of the present species of the galaxy, and is one of the few who are aware of this fact. That is, if Shepard had failed to unite the galaxy, the child's fate would have been to become a battery for the Human-Reaper or die fighting a lost cause, such as the Protheans. A truly exceptional timing, really

@pikmonwolf

2 жыл бұрын

Wow that's crazy true. What a great life for your kid Jacob. I'll be fighting for its future while you sit on your ass.

@Trattato68

2 жыл бұрын

@@pikmonwolf Also because the discourse of defending his people makes no sense. If the Reapers find the Crucible it's over, so if Bioware didn't want to put him as a teammate, just do as with Samara, who went where needed. To say, Tali is the only one who would make sense and reason not to follow you (especially if she is a admiral) and yet she does it, without the slightest doubt and indeed insists. Jacob instead prefers to sleep on the Crucible, because basically the marines are absolutely useless there if not to check that indoctrinated people do not arrive.

@me5969

2 жыл бұрын

Did he “choose” though? I recall him saying it wasn’t planned although I could be wrong

@deleteman900

2 жыл бұрын

Consider for a moment, that... well, Life Happens. Sometimes you gotta do shit in the hopes that things work out, because you don't have a better option. If you met someone you could picture sharing the rest of your life with, wouldn't you pull that trigger and at least *try*? Or would you just sit there and be sad, because you know things MIGHT not work out?

@Trattato68

2 жыл бұрын

@@deleteman900 Not while you're waiting for a giant war to come where the odds of winning don't even remotely work in your favor. It is selfish and irresponsible. To give a more down to earth example, it's like deciding to do it while you live in extreme poverty, which you can barely support yourself.

Bro said “How long did you expect me to wait?” like Kaidan wasn’t pissing, shitting, and throwing up over Shepard for a full year (and even after that, he was still fucked up about it.) He couldn’t even do 6 months 💀💀💀

@kyokonightstorm5844

Жыл бұрын

THIS. Really all 3 of the ME 1 romances are more loyal. Shepard is *dead* for 2 years and they still couldn't bring themselves to date someone else.

@soaringraven0

11 ай бұрын

@@kyokonightstorm5844 Liara even makes sure Feron straight up to know she is taken

@yurionagony7782

11 ай бұрын

Not to mention that Kaidan was sure that Shepard was dead, after that he saw his lover working with one of the most evil organization ever and he still loved them, Jacob knew full well that Shepard was alive and yet he still was like fuck it I was loyal for enough time

@backtoklondike

10 ай бұрын

@@yurionagony7782 And Kaidan didn't try and rekindle the relationship with Shepard because he was legit busy. And there was probably some red tape that prevented him for trying to get together with his former commanding officer again, who is under house arrest. Jacob was on earth not doing anything but chilling. And he was a high ranking Cerberus officier. If he really wanted the relationship to be serious, he could've just offered a deal with the alliance that he could given them information about Cerberus in exchange for protection and meet with Shepard. But no, Shepard is the one who didn't try hard enough.

@CulTheDustySimp

10 ай бұрын

@@soaringraven0really? I must’ve missed that on my playthrough!

One thing I noticed you didn't comment on was Jacob's habit of simply quitting whenever he didn't like something. Joined the Alliance, quit because he thought there was too much red tape. Joined the Corsairs, quit again because he thought there was still too much red tape. Joined a KNOWN TERRORIST ORGANIZATION. Just that part of his biography alone should let Shepard know that he's not someone who should be trusted. At all.

@PsychothicFlare1

10 ай бұрын

Let's talk about how he feels morally righteous to judge Thane bc he's an assassin, but again like you said JOINED A KNOWN TERRORIST GROUP!!! LIKE YOU ARE LITERALLY A TERRORIST BRO 💀

I wonder if BioWare just gave up on Jacob in 3 after seeing his reception in 2, and figured "Hey, people already hate him. Let's just let people still hate him, and make it worse for those who romanced him."

@rickoshay5525

Жыл бұрын

They threw away my precious Kelly Chambers! Shepard doesn't even think about her during ME3's final run despite still being in a romance with her! 😩

Would have been 100x better if kia lang was your male Cerberus squad mate in ME2 Would also have made ME3 more interesting

@Donorieno

2 жыл бұрын

That would’ve been hella cool

@pikmonwolf

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed, establish your main Cerberus enemy as an ally to really add in a gut punch! You could save the worst two characters by combining them lol.

@Donorieno

2 жыл бұрын

@@pikmonwolf yeah having Anderson send you a dossier about Kia Lang was kinda bland and Miranda acting so scared, just for shepherd to kill him in 2 seconds lol

@Donorieno

2 жыл бұрын

Then try to make it personal killing thane, but thane was already on the verge of death everyday lol

@bobizzle1605

2 жыл бұрын

When I first played ME3 I had Kaiden killed on Virmire in my trilogy playthrough, and when Kai Leng was introduced I was like “wait, no, could that actually be Kaiden??” And when it wasn’t I was a little disappointed lol

Jacob wants you to space the geth so cerberus can pick it up for free.

"When asked why people don't like Jabob, most will respond that it's because he's b-" OH NO! "oring" OH THANK GOD.

@RoyalFusilier

4 ай бұрын

Only race joke in the comments (and there's plenty) even remotely funny, good work.

the exsistance of Garrus Vakarian at all automatically ruined the chance of most characters to either, romance or bromance shepard XD

@gaelofariandel6747

2 жыл бұрын

Am I your dirty little secret?

@DragonRhapsody99

2 жыл бұрын

for me, Garrus became so much of a bro I couldn't romance him LMAO Thane is my one true man

@Notsoshady4891

2 жыл бұрын

Garrus, doesn't get Tali sick... and their sweet together...

@Blast_S_rank_1

2 жыл бұрын

@@Notsoshady4891 the fuck you talking about lol

@Notsoshady4891

2 жыл бұрын

@@Blast_S_rank_1 Garrus and Tali have their own romance if you don't with either of them. I thought that happened in ME2, but I guess it happened in ME3.

Kasumi's love for him feels shoehorned. A convenient excuse for why the player can't romance her.

@pikmonwolf

2 жыл бұрын

I always figured it was a meme because by the time she released they knew nobody liked him. So the joke is this new DLC characters has a crush on the guy nobody likes.

@Exodon2020

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, because the death of her boyfriend she clearly did not yet fully process emotionally totally does not hammer that point home, right?

@beanlegion8529

2 жыл бұрын

@@Exodon2020 so falling in love with Jacob despite dead boyfriend is okay but being a potential love interest despite dead boyfriend is not?

@AriEugene

2 жыл бұрын

@@beanlegion8529 "love" is a verrry strong word here lol. She's in love with his abs

@Exodon2020

2 жыл бұрын

@@beanlegion8529 Her liking for Jacob was more of a Carnal thing though. And people who lost a loved one trying to escape into meaningless casual relationships is not entirely unheard of either.

I recognized Bryn's voice immediately as female Hawke from DA2 and the female Imperial Agent from SWTOR. Good voice actors are so easy to point out and find.

@devinsdead921

5 ай бұрын

Jacob's dad was also played by Lee from the walking dead games. Recognized his voice almost immediately, so iconic

@2bdaqueen268

4 ай бұрын

⁠@@devinsdead921 off topic but Lee would def beat the crap out of Jacob’s dad lol.

Kaidan may be a little boring but he’s actually a really sweet and kind character. He thinks of others’ needs above his own, and shows that throughout the game (for example, if Shepard hits Dr Manuel in Eden Prime, Kaidan would reproachfully tell the Commander that he was too excessive). I’m not a Kaidan fanboi at all but I’ve recently learned to appreciate his qualities after paying more attention to the dialogue and plot. Great video about Jacob btw. I hate this guy. I can’t even talk to him as FemShep without feeling creeped out or accidentally being in a romance with him.

I don’t believe he’ll stick around for his child or Brynn. Jacob has never, ever, stayed loyal to anything or anyone for any lengthy period of time. He has given up on literally every relationship and organization he has ever worked for.

@martinosborne4703

2 жыл бұрын

At risk of enforcing a stereotype, I have to agree. For someone who claims you don't know how to settle down, he sure lacks any form of consistency in his life.

@nomadjensen8276

2 жыл бұрын

Lol I'm laughing so hard right now.

@roberthighsmith3192

2 жыл бұрын

@Xbox One except as the video points out he gets pissy if you do to him what he eventually does to you. He even goes so far as to throw racial slurs at Garrus. He doesn't deserve your defense...

@stevieblunder2656

2 жыл бұрын

@Xbox One Bro, you are protesting just a little *too* much about this.

@stevieblunder2656

2 жыл бұрын

@Xbox One Which is fine in itself. My point is the you seem to only (very) strongly disagree with the Jacob/Femshep bit. To the point where you are going kinda far outta your way to try and justify it to people who you know you aren't going convince...and even get a little insulting with the power fantasy bit. You also keep ignoring the fact that most people seem to be saying it's shitty not necessarily because he does it, but how he acts when Femshep was like "Well, OK. Bye." He can go knock a rando up and we're supposed to be cool with it (which is whatever, I really don't care) but as soon as she's like "well, I'm gonna go bang Garrus" he loses his shit. It's hypocritical...and then he blames her for him doing it in the first place. If he'd have been like 'Well, it wasn't gonna go anywhere anyway so you do you" I doubt nearly as many people would have as much of an issue with it. But he doesn't. He wants to have his cake and eat it too and like most dbags he can't stand when his own crap is flipped back on him. I'm just saying it seems like there's a reason for you going so hard on this and that it has nothing to do with game.

It's rather weird that Jacob's dad is one of the few villains of the side stories with a personal connection to a squaddie that doesn't get some sort of redeeming feature, or an angle that we can kind of get. Niket thinks Miranda kidnapped her sister, Maelon wants to atone for his Genoophage work, Sidonis is wracked by guilt, Admiral Zaal'koris is trying to avert war, Aresh wants to put the suffering he went through into some sort of meaningful context, Vido Santiago got rid of Zaeed because Zaeed was running the Suns into the ground, even Morinth gets something where we might kind of understand and sympathise with her a bit. But not Ronald Taylor. He's written as irredeemable, a man who went crazy with power and became a tyrant, a murderer and a rapist and that's all there is to it, and I don't know why they did that. There's not much of a decision there to give an insight into Jacob, for sure.

@Queen3210

2 жыл бұрын

Lol I think you mean 'Ronald'; Ronald Taylor was Jacob's father. But I definitely get where you're going with this.

@smartalec2001

2 жыл бұрын

@@Queen3210 you're right, corrected.

@thebigz3786

2 жыл бұрын

A more shallow version of Walter E. Kurtz from Apocalypse Now.

@jirkazalabak1514

2 жыл бұрын

I thought it was actually very clever to write him that way, and quite realistic, too. Next to Jack´s loyalty mission, it gave us one of the darkest and most raw experiences in the entire game. Think of how much evil in the real world happens for no other reason than greed and lust for power. This mission teaches us a valuable lesson. There doesn´t always have to be a good reason for suffering. Sometimes, it happens just because the people in power are either too weak to stop it, or are actively complicit in it for their own gain. Knowing this truth is the difference between being an adult and being a child. The mission made me think about what I would have done in such a situation. Would I turn myself in, knowing that I would face punishment, or would I also try to cover it up? Also, we don´t really know how well the Blue Suns worked under Zaeed´s leadership. From what I have seen of Vido, I wouldn´t be surprised if he just betrayed Zaeed for money and power. In a business like that, it happens all the time. I think you are giving a scumbag like him a little too much credit. If Vido had been the captain during that crash, he would have most likely killed the others and taken the women for himself anyway, neural decay or not.

@Killzoneguy117

2 жыл бұрын

@@jirkazalabak1514 As shitty as Jacob is, his loyalty mission is one of my favorites. I couldn't figure out quite why until I saw @pikmonwolf compare it to Heart of Darkness. That's literally what it is. Its Heart of Darkness. You're going into this strange and alien world to find a man long lost, but the further you go, the more insight you get into his insanity, his savagery and his barbarism. You see a civilized man who turned into a savage and a tyrant and conscripted his people into his madness. Ronald Taylor is Colonel Kurtz. That's actually pretty fucking awesome. Unfortunately, unlike Heart of Darkness, Jacob's reaction simply boils down to "this is bad".

Listening to Jacob's advice is like trying to drive blindfolded xD

@AdblockWillWin7853

3 ай бұрын

Drunk, high, sleep-deprived, blindfolded, and fresh out of fucks to give.

Jacob " I am here to apply for the role of shepards bro" me "We barely tolerate you as a war asset.....:

You forgot to mention that after you play his mission in ME3, Jacob spends the entire rest of the war standing around the lobby of Huerta Memorial doing jack shit.

@bobdolesrevenge

Жыл бұрын

That's completely wrong. ...he also plays Rock'em Sock'em Robots with Shepard.

@CommanderShepard-wq3wo

Жыл бұрын

@@bobdolesrevenge and I kicked his ass

@hafann

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like most ME2 characters in ME3 tbh

@aasigraa

Жыл бұрын

hahahaha yess.

@Andrewza1

Жыл бұрын

@@hafann what? Not really they mostly end up doing shit and sort of why they not with you

The sad thing is, until I found out he cheated on Shepard I didn't _really_ have a reason to hate him. Sure, he was boring and pretty useless, but he was a good solider with good morals. He goaded Thane a bit, which got my shoulders up because he was my romance option, but I got over it because, one, Thane didn't seem to care, and two, Jacob at least had a valid point. After all, Thane _is_ a hitman for hire, and Jacob's distrust of an assassin fell in line with his character. I also enjoyed his loyalty mission because it was so dark. It's one of the few moments in the whole series that references rpe, and Jacob's genuine disgust with his father for that fact was admirable. But when I found out he not only cheats on Shepard, but also shows _no remorse_ for it, any respect I might've had for him went out the window. Every single romance option _except_ for Jacob remains faithful, and it's only been six months. Even worse, if you play the Citadel DLC and meet him at the club, you can confront him and he acts like Shepard should just "get over it". You can even slap him in the face and he acts confused. And what you said about Brynn also gets me, because when I first met her I loved her. She's so pleasant, smart, driven, and even wants to name her _baby_ after Shepard. But if you romanced Jacob she's like a whole different character, petty and insufferable. Really, three characters get screwed if you romance Jacob. I like to pretend that route just doesn't exist.

@laexdream

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I would maybe get it if he was a mass effect 1 character you could romance, and then you died for two years so he gets with another woman… but the time and reason for the non-contact between mass effect 2 and 3 is just unforgivable

@kirikakirikakirika

2 жыл бұрын

@@laexdream Exactly. 6 months. 6 months and he easily could've waited for/found ways to contact Shepard. Hell, Thane sent 100 messages and tried multiple channels to reach her. Jacob couldn't keep it in his pants for _half a year._ And even more aggregious is the fact that Shepard was simply under house arrest. Her/his sentence was limited and everyone knew it.

@TheMasterUnity

2 жыл бұрын

@@kirikakirikakirika Yeah, like if one of the LI's in ME1 got together with someone afterwards it'd be fine. After all they DID see Shepard get spaced and was gone for 2 years. But Jacob is just a twat

@DraconimLt

2 жыл бұрын

well, it's like an AU, if you didn't play that route then it didn't happen (in YOUR Shep's universe). Didn't happen in mine. Allways Male Shep anyway lol

@Raycloud

2 жыл бұрын

I think Jacob was written to cheat on Shepard in ME3 precisely because the fanbase hated him in ME2. The writers don't always stay consistent to the characters but rather write to appease the fans.

Audio levels are atrocious in this vid. Did you have Jacob sit at the knobs?

The only thing I remember about Jacob is when he said doing good is like pissing yourself in dark pants. A warm feeling but nobody notices. Then I noticed he does wear dark pants. Maybe the whole point of Jacob is to remind the player how out of the ordinary everyone is, Shepherd, Tali, Garrus, Wrex, everyone is amazing. So much so you lose a sense of scale. Then you see Jacob being unbelievably unremarkable and suddenly you can compare everyone else to him.

I never talked to him aside from initiating his loyalty mission simply for the fact that you CANNOT talk to him as a femshep without laying on the super heavy flirting right out the gate. Literally everyone else was better than him.

@powderkegs983

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! But unfortunately this is more of an issue with the dialogue writing for the femShep rather than Jacob's characterization. At least in ME3 the dialogues with Jacob for FemShep is much better, and his overall character is okay at least.

@SchulzEricT

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I saw somebody playing Mass Effect 3 as a female Shep and whenever she talked to him I was like... "gross". I never had that problem but I think it's really fucking lame that BioWare decided you couldn't talk to Jacob without flirting with him if you were female.

@s.o.q2914

Жыл бұрын

I kind saw that I only wish to just did the mission and upgrades

@toxicneamain

Жыл бұрын

Damn I feel you, it was super awkward since femShep felt like she was constantly flirting him even when she was talking about the weather. And the you get my boy Garrus who was calibrating the whole trip, was a bit clueless and I had to pursue him a lot to get the romance going.

Ex-Alliance soldier, but untrained with an Assault Rifle in ME2. That sounds like an awful soldier.

@pikmonwolf

2 жыл бұрын

Hah, good point. Grunt fresh from the tank can use them but Jacob is stuck with a pistol.

@LS-jv9hp

2 жыл бұрын

Man was a POG

@mrford215

2 жыл бұрын

He was actually a Corsair not really an alliance

@mikewillis9537

2 жыл бұрын

His original idea was he was supposed to be a vanguard , I think, he had biotics and a shotgun, but his powers were pretty basic and they seemed to forget that part about him in me3 when he gets tagged by a round with no kinetic or biotic barrier

@jrod22173

2 жыл бұрын

True! I fixed that he cannot carry and automatic weapon with a mod, because it makes no damn sense! He literally runs the armory, why does he only get a pistol and a shotgun!! More uselessness! I always avoid speaking to him personally to make sure i never show interest in him.

Jacob is the Preston Garvey of mass effect.

@panicattheanimationstudio5673

Ай бұрын

That's an insult to Preston, at least he's doing his best. The fuck is Jacob doing

@artyomsaveli9681

16 күн бұрын

Dude, that's harsh, even for Preston.

@GigiBranconi

15 күн бұрын

Don't you dare slander Preston that way. That guy is actually loyal, committed to a near suicidal degree and genuinely just a good dude. A bit annoying, but a good person who tries his best.

The thing I hate about Jacob is while you're in jail between mass effect two and three he goes and knocks up another lady. Like wtf dude? You couldn't even wait?

Jacob is the only black squad mate and his mission is to find his lost father and then he cheats on you. Well played bioware. Edit: This is getting a lot of replies and the conclusion is to add the following to the above: Jacobs father also became a tribal leader that had a haram of women that he used for sex without question when he was given the opportunity to do so in a position of power. Then there is Jacob himself, Jacob is also an idiot, if you take Jacobs advice in the game you will get everyone killed on the suicide mission. Jacob suggests going for the reaper IFF before getting everyone in the squad which if you do there goes everyone on the crew that wasn't on the shuttle. he then suggests not waking up legion or even selling him to cerberus for cash, he wants to throw legion out the air lock while also suggesting that that you hit the omega 4 relay before finishing squad missions and upgrading the normandy. Anything else lol?

@pikmonwolf

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's... real not good. I genuinely wonder how it got approved.

@boubakhari

2 жыл бұрын

That actually made me laugh, such cliches, It was like watching an episode of Family Guy:p

@Johnny-ny3ko

2 жыл бұрын

@@pikmonwolf Well, you know, the loyalty mission was in 2010 and the cheating was probably programmed and approved late 2010 to 2011. Nowdays people may consider it a big deal

@imbetter599

2 жыл бұрын

Truly based my favorite squadmate.

@superphantom100

2 жыл бұрын

Mind you the also made his father as another black stereotype.

LMAO "Liara is *Information Redacted*." oh god I haven't laughed like that in a while. Thank you.

"Wow, this is bad." This is a perfect line to sum up the character that is Jacob. What a good deep dive on Jacob, well done.

Jack had so many reasons to flatline that gonk. Loved her story. I never really thought much about Jason. He was like White noise, persistent and irritating. I used him as little as possible. Watching this and remembering him say we should space the second best robot ally in gaming just adds to his stupidly.

@thr04w4y

5 ай бұрын

Incredibly fitting that you misspelled his name, he's that forgettable and irrelevant

@boomerpro87

4 ай бұрын

Haaaaah Love the cyberpunk slang, honestly happy to see I'm not the only one who's started using it in my regular vocabulary. Thanks, choomba, made me Crack a smile.

@GrimDMasterMind

4 ай бұрын

@@boomerpro87 Any time choom.

I'm surprised that "femshep's terrible dialogue options" didn't even make the cut here. Every dialogue option seems to have this husky flirty tone when you talk with him and it is terrible. He could have gotten a forgettable pass otherwise.

@pikmonwolf

2 жыл бұрын

A shocking amount of complaints had to be left on the cutting room floor lol. 22 minutes was the briefest I could get it.

@mermaid_picaro

2 жыл бұрын

This was my complaint, I hated the way femshep talked to him, ruined the immersion for me. So I just don’t talk to him. Ever.

@zigzaghyena

2 жыл бұрын

@@mermaid_picaro And if perhaps he suffers an unfortunate accident in the Collector Base, well, his sacrifice will be honoured.

@funbro99

2 жыл бұрын

@@pikmonwolf make it a extra vid, nothing worse than spending jacob ranting. That said I personally still agreed to space legion but thats just my geth-hating ass.

@-Zikade-

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that was so weird and immersion breaking to me cuz she was acting like she had a humongous lady boner for him regardless of how I wanted to RP her. (Btw, unpopular opinion, everyone says the voice acting of femShep is better and I guess objectively it is but one of the reasons why I actually kinda prefer m!Shep is because his delivery is more neutral. He has no moments like this bizarre one with Jacob. My favorite m!Shep RP was actually one in which he romanced nobody in 1-2, then ended up with Kaidan. It was totally believable, whereas if you decided to play similarly with femShep the scenes with Jacob make you go like "Uhh... did I miss something?")

I dont think vega deserves to be called boring. The spar you have with him at the start of 3 is an interesting/unique way to get to know him and he is more of a bro than the other 2. Plus he is pretty fun to have in the squad with his dialogue

@pikmonwolf

2 жыл бұрын

Him "hacking" the AA gun on Rannoch is one of my favorite moments in the series.

@Crawver

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Vega just has the issue of him being the newbie human at the end of the trilogy. What can they do with him? I actually do like what they did when I actually paid attention to him. He's a younger you. He's you at a crossroads, still bearing the scars and pain of his standout history moment, and has yet to turn into the true leader he is going to become. If he was in 1 instead of Kaiden, he'd have been a fan favourite, with all the time to grow, and would actually make sense for a character who makes spectre status by the end. He'd need a little bit of tweaking, but him being essentially your hot headed apprentice would have actually been a great dynamic. Also should keep him as non-romancable. I actually always liked that part of him.

@sev1120

Жыл бұрын

Kaidan: long time ally who you've worked with for a long time James: every group's bro friend who is also kind-of a himbo Jacob: he's there I guess?

@papadoug4681

Жыл бұрын

@@Crawver truthfully he's a very fun and cool character. But like you said he's already at a huge disadvantage by 1. Being a human in a series with sick ass aliens. And 2. Late to the party being only introduced in 3

@galaxy-wg1lf

Жыл бұрын

"Too much information"

Funniest part is Jack would spare us from lengthy conversations, Jacob in a nutshell according to Jack: "Miranda is a Cerberus bitch, Jacob doesn't know who he is".

8:39 Also Kaiden and Vega have decently interesting backstories that they will open up and tell you about.

Yeaaah... In ME1, Kaidan was the boring one. _By choice._ Because he'd lost control once and he ended up killing someone. So he decides to never lose control again, keeping cool and calm nearly all the time. In ME3, Vega is pretty much forced onto us, BUT, he makes up for it with his determination, interesting-enough motivation and backstory, voice acting, and fairly likeable personality. Though, speaking of forced onto us, that's also realistic with the real military, since barring special operations and teams, officers don't often get to choose who they command. Also, given the situation, Shepard simply needed the extra gun. Jacob's most prominent moment of greatness is his anger against his dad, and even THAT is subdued and just lacking any kind of actual punch, figurative or literal.

@rickoshay5525

2 жыл бұрын

On my first playthrough, I honestly thought that James' sole purpose was compensate for the lack of male romance options for Femshep.

@pajusxka

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah Kaidan in ME1 is pretty boring, but he makes up in ME3 for me. He is likeable, motivated, nice and him cooking with my femshep while she drinks beer is my favorite part of the Citadel DLC. And i just can't stand Ash, so i just always leave her to die. And no, Garrus is my romance all the time :p Speaking of Vega, i always liked him. Sure he is not that interesting like Tali, Garrus, Liara but he cares about u and he has that own character. Jacob is just the worst. I literally can't find anything about him that i like. Boring story, backstory, i dont even like his loyalty mission. And in ME3..., god i just want him to leave in the vent, but he is actually a war asset so that's what keeps him alive for me :D

@SchazmenRassir

2 жыл бұрын

@@pajusxka Give Ash a chance. She does change in ME3, to the point of thinking of Tali like her little sister. This is specifically pointed out if you romance her first in ME1, then go for Tali after it. Ash doesn't mind *at all.*

@kurzor0007

2 жыл бұрын

I agree that Kaidan is boring in ME1 but at least his sheer versatility in ME1 and ME3 as a support character more than makes up for it For James, I think they should have explored more of his background instead of relegating us to the Paragon Lost movie OR emphasized the Mentor Protege relationship between Shepard, gameplay-wise, the only thing I would change in his kit was to give him an exclusive melee attack, like a football tackle that would push back the first enemy it hits but it shouldn't be as powerful as a Krogan charge as that would be ridiculous (he was intended to fill Wrex and Grunt's role)

@stratospherica

2 жыл бұрын

Also, by ME3, Kaidan's boringness is kind of played with in a way that makes him kind of endearing. People rib him for it, and he laughs along. It's cute.

I just want to mention that in a way, it isn't really surprising that Jacob cheats on Shepard. Jacob has quit literally everything he's ever been part of. He was Alliance. Quit. He joined the Corsairs. Quit that too. Presumably had a relationship with Miranda. My guess is, he quit that too. And as we know, he quit Cerberus, too. What has this man ever stayed loyal to? Nothing. Ever. So what is there to make you think he'd stay loyal to Shepard? The guy has major commitment issues. Huge red flag. Realising that is the moment my Shepard dumped his sorry ass for Garrus. I'm not excusing his behaviour, far from it. I AM saying that it's consistent with what we see of his character that he would do that.

@housewilma4904

Жыл бұрын

im assuming miranda broke it off with jacob cause otherwise she would totally roast the shitte out of him if he pulled what he did femshep on her.

@KhaosKulture

Жыл бұрын

He doesnt exist. He doesnt need his behavior excused.

@silent_stalker3687

Жыл бұрын

In the original draft he was also indoctrinated but seemed to quit; you could decide to free him or not. He was supposed to be in the Miranda mission. So he even quit the reapers when they indoctrinated him, presumably

@stylesrj

Жыл бұрын

Even when you've got him on the squad. He'll just quit being useful.

@rwg6357

Жыл бұрын

I guess the Prize was just the experience!

I know one good thing about him His dad is Lee Everitt

Liara is a [information redacted] is probably the funniest in-joke I've ever heard.

That dig at Tali with telling her to familiarize herself with EDI the ship's AI solidified my decision to bench him as often as possible.

@dizzpenzerr5367

2 жыл бұрын

I only ever choose him to escort the normandy crew back to the ship when we save them at the suicide collecter base. At least he's good doing that. Play babysitter and miss out on all the cool final mission moments action.

@davidrosensin7985

2 жыл бұрын

@@dizzpenzerr5367 I just don't do his loyalty mission and watch him die...but that's just me.

@ThejollyFrenchman

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I wasn't sure if that was an intentional dig, or if Jacob's just an idiot.

@guilhermehank4938

2 жыл бұрын

Jacob: *trash talk suit babe* Me: meet the airlock

@fawnieee

2 жыл бұрын

@@guilhermehank4938 as a Garrus mega simp, seeing him call my beloved a "cuttlebone" is... Unforgivable 🙅

Even thou Zaeed only joined the mission in ME2 because he was getting paid. Later in ME 3 even Zaeed seems to have become Shepard's friend. Also Zaeed a DLC character had better development as a character then Jacob. Jacob was just poorly written thou.

@pikmonwolf

2 жыл бұрын

And Zaeed gives you really cool explosive kitchen-ware.

@PaulLundgren1970

2 жыл бұрын

@@pikmonwolf I'd pay to listen to Zaeed's voice actor insult me. I love the sound of his voice.

@Razgar_Voxel

2 жыл бұрын

@@PaulLundgren1970 Sadly he passed shortly either before the Citadel DLC or after it's release. He and Garrus were my two fav squad mates in ME 2

@fenrisvermundr2516

2 жыл бұрын

Jacob was basically just a character left over from the very early stages of development. He was planned to be a male shep exclusive romance, but when they scrapped male/male romances they decided rather than scrap him, repurpose him for something else.

@brandontaylor6677

2 жыл бұрын

@@pikmonwolf blame zaeed, and run like hell

F to those five people who romanced Jacob in hopes that Bioware would've salvaged his character in ME3.

My issue with Jacob was the fact that everyone in Shepard's life became someone so much better than what they started with. Kaidan/Ashley: Became a Spectre Wrex: Became a very progressive chief of his clan Tali: Became an Admiral Garrus: Became an advisor to the whole Turian fleet Liara: Became the Shadow Broker Jack: Became a teacher to biotic kids like her Grunt: Became the commander of the Aralakh Company Mordin: Died a f**king hero to cure the Krogan people. Legion: Died a hero to give his people high level intelligence and boker a peace between Quarians and the Geth. Thane: Died a hero to save the Citadel WHILE HE WAS TERMINALLY ILL. Even if the other members who didn't have this level of drastic change in their lives has something going on. Samara: Continued the fight as a Justicar and a mohter. Miranda: Continued to take the fight to Cerberus despite that putting her and her sister in risk Zaeed: Continued the fight as a Merc against Cerberus. Kasumi: Continued the fight and tried to help a freaking Salarian Spectre. And then there is Jacob. No character development whatsoever. Nothing interesting or exciting is going on. It's just bad writing, man.

@GigiBranconi

15 күн бұрын

Shepard may not be a perfect person, unless you go full Paragon and even then there are issues. But if you put it this way, they do have a way of bringing out the best in people. As well as finding the best people to begin with! Jacob is just the exception to the rule xD

Considering that Jacob left the Alliance due to the constant red tape, I would have thought seeing his father ultimately throw away all regulation and law to become a harem king would have made him realize that the rules exist for a reason, maybe make Jacob question if he's also living out a juvenile fantasy by throwing his lot with Cerberus. That angle could have made the Loyalty Mission a bit more interesting, maybe give him some development, but I guess not.

@dark7element

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the loyalty mission felt like a missed opportunity in so many ways. It was an interesting scenario but then it feels like Jacob barely even shows up to HIS OWN LOYALTY MISSION, the scenario that is SUPPOSED to center on him and give his characterization a chance to shine through.

@InitialPC

Жыл бұрын

"I don't like the red tape of the Alliance, so I'm going to join Cerberus! no red tape there!" said no one ever, except Jacob

@FalenDragmire

Жыл бұрын

Jacob's problem was never that there were rules. His problem was that there were so many rules that it often made it difficult, if not downright impossible, to get things done effectively or even done at all in some cases. Hilariously, this is the exact same issue Garrus had when he was still a part of C-Sec; he hated having to play by the rules and going through all the red tape.

@CREDLACE

11 ай бұрын

And even then GARRUS made it better, heck he was C-Sec and a potential Spectre candidate, bogged down by both his father and Red Tape, and he went to a Wretched Hive to become a Vigilante where his good deeds earned him the nickname "Archangel". Not quite Cerberus but at least he strived to make a difference.

@AgentofChaos315

8 ай бұрын

I swear his loyalty mission was some random side quest that they tacked onto Jacob when they couldn't come up with one for him.

It makes sense with Vega as Shepard was under house arrest for 6 months and Vega was his/her guard. That could be used as how Vega is friendily with Shepard. And yeah Vega is like a typical jarhead but I think Vega is indicative of new players that jump into ME3. Plus he's pretty good in a fight and his fortification is handy. And the nicknames he has for the crew are cheesey but he has lo-key bro vibes. If he was there from the start I'm sure something could've been done but how are you supposed to introduce a new charater at the end of a trilogy? I tend to be a bit more forgiving with Vega because of that. And of course he reminds me of a friend that I used to know.

@pikmonwolf

2 жыл бұрын

All great points! Personally I quite like Kaiden and Vega as well. But I didn't really have time to dive more into their good qualities and I worried that building them up too much would undercut the point of "even if you dislike them because you think they're boring, Jacob is significantly worse than them."

@MrSweetiebear95

2 жыл бұрын

His nickname freaked me out a bit on my first FemShep run, because I named her Lola and I thought I unlocked a secret lol

@akris5080

2 жыл бұрын

I loved his interactions in the Citadel DLC.

@leonardchurch814

2 жыл бұрын

Vega is charming and full of charisma. Aside from the start of ME3, he almost never falters as being the brightest person in the room.

@Lucildor

2 жыл бұрын

@Max Montair He's energy is very contagious!

All of these mass effect videos flooding my feed is gonna get me to start a new play through soon

Jacob is one of those characters that I honestly forget about after the tutorial stages. Every time I play ME2, once I recruit Garrus, Jacob is never brought on a mission again with his loyalty mission being the only exception. I don’t necessarily hate Jacob, but I don’t have much to say or like about him either. I adore Kaidan and James is pretty cool as well. And when I played ME2 for the first time, I literally viewed Jacob as a replacement of Kaidan, a better character that I liked more. And when James fills in that role in ME3, he also does a better job. Sure, James is a more simplistic character compared to the rest of the crew, but just because a character is simplistic doesn’t necessarily mean they are a bad character. It more about the writing and how the character fits in with the cast, which I’d argue that Jacob doesn’t fit in at all. Whatever gripes or problems Kaidan and James have, they still open up and have more going on with them than Jacob if you’re willing to put the time in.

@thesamejackalsniperthatkil117

Жыл бұрын

Nah I stop using jacob once I recruit zaeed since he's there earlier than mordin and garrus.

@lewismartin3430

7 ай бұрын

James being a walking tank with a heart bigger than his biceps works for 3. He's the emotional one compared to the cooler heads of ash/kaiden and liara.

@angelaharris53

4 ай бұрын

I adore James. I don't use him much once I get Kaidan back since Kaidan is walking tank if built properly, but I will always take James to the Temple with Liara the first time you face Kai Leng. It always annoys me how the game forces Liara on you when she's the last person who should be going as it's her home world being destroyed. Can we say emotionally compromised, and there is no need? Well, James is a great companion because his dialogue is to say to her all the hard things the game won't let *me* say.

the only thing that bugged me about jacob is , when i was playing fem-shep, literally EVERY conversation turned into them flirting. like the game was forcing you into a relationship with him. its wierd because hes the only squadmate like that in all the games. so i just stopped talking to him any more then necessary.

@j19games24

2 жыл бұрын

This is how I feel about Cortez while playing maleshep. Your only options are: sympathize, which makes him have a crush on you, be a total dbag, or ignore him. It's impossible to just be bros. But, it's good to know I should ignore Jacob when I finally get around to doing a femshep playthrough, although let's be honest, I was going to ignore Jacob the moment I got a 3rd squad member either way. At least with Cortez he is a lot easier to ignore since he isn't a squad mate, and isn't trying to give you terrible tactical advice like Jacob does once every couple hours.

@enidanni3919

2 жыл бұрын

I ACCIDENTALLY ROMANCED HIM BC OF THIS i triggered the romance thing and said ok why not im already here genuinely one of the most empty feeling relationships in all the series

@josephford2226

2 жыл бұрын

Something similar happened to me in ME3 when Kaiden was suddenly bisexual and into my male Shephard. My first playthrough, I was so fucking taken off guard when he suddenly started flirting with me. I genuinely felt uncomfortable as I turned him down after he hit on me for the first time ever.

@torbbi1069

2 жыл бұрын

yeah he was really hypersexualized

@Tystolfo

2 жыл бұрын

Just finished playing ME3 and James is the exact same way, it's just that it works for him because James is just a naturally flirty guy I guess.

I once took Jacob to fight the Human Reaper to check on his dialogue with the Illusive Man (like Miranda has). But he didn't even notice him. And after the end of the game, Jacob says something like "I wish I could see the Illusive Man's face when you turned him down" even if he was there. Apparently, by the end of ME2, no one thought that someone would choose Jacob as a team member. They had already gave up on him back then. Or were sure that he would already be dead due to his own stupid decisions, idk

@njmfff

Жыл бұрын

I think this is because while making ME2 they already had rough idea of where ME3 plot would go, so they decided to focus more on Miranda as she's kinda very similar to Shepard, while Jacob is kinda just out there. If you remove Jacob from ME2, you wouldn't even feel the difference, but try removing Miranda or Garrus, you would feel the impact.

@soaringraven0

11 ай бұрын

he really wanted to go in the vents :/

To his credit he does provides the Normandy with better armor, which is essential for completing the Omega 4 relay mission with 100% survivors. Not that it suddenly makes him a good character but man I think he at least deserves a win.

tbf as bad as the optics of Jacob having an absent father are, I wouldn't look too deep into it. Literally half of Mass Effects squadmates have some form of daddy issues. There's even an inside joke about it in ME3 when Shepard asks EDI if she has any issues with her relations to the Illusive Man.

There’s also the fact that after completing like 20% of ME2, Jacob only says “Already? I’m not big on these talks” when you try to talk to him. It makes it sound like you’re coming on to him even if you haven’t spoken for like 5 missions

@pikmonwolf

2 жыл бұрын

True, his 'I'm out of conversations' line is very condescending when most everyone else is polite, just busy.

@koffeeyka5089

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly this. He said this to me twice (multiple missions happened inbetween, including his loyalty mission), so after that I was like - okay, never talking to you ever again then.

@Spearra

2 жыл бұрын

@@pikmonwolf Mfw Miranda, Jack, and Grunt early game all have better manners than the "level headed soldier character"

@jaxusr235

2 жыл бұрын

It surprised me greatly when I spoke with him for the first time right before the final mission and got the line. Supremely rude, to say the least.

@Petaurista13

2 жыл бұрын

it reminds me my mother who always scold me of talking to her when she's busy. For over 20 years. Usually she reads newspaper or just sits idle then. Me when I say I'm busy: 1. Talking to somebody who has major problems so I need to focus on talking to him/her 2. Doing sth important 3. Have episode of lying on the floor and I don't want to talk to anybody

The statement about him refusing to open up is right on the money. Even Jack, a character famous for her abrasive nature, opens up more than Jacob does.

@kharnthebetrayer8251

Жыл бұрын

Hell, she'll tell you about a bunch of things almost immediately. All about her activities and throwing things around, getting in trouble, even in a semi-relationship with a pair who betrayed her. Pretty much the first discussion you have with her is that. Jacob... All you know is. Was with the alliance. left because of Red tape. Joined Cerberus...... Thats it

@eugenebirukov5117

Жыл бұрын

Compare Jacob’s attitude towards father committed crime to Tali’s in similar circumstances. Tali is devastated while Jacob rejects his father even before he has a chance to talk to him.

@jimbob1862

11 ай бұрын

​@@eugenebirukov5117 To be fair Jacob walks in on his dad being an absolute piece of shit who only called for help because he was losing power over the other survivors and is open about not really being close to him before. It's a VERY different situation to Tali's, where she clearly respects and loves her father and is open about that from ME1, which makes her father's fuck up in 2 that much more tragic.

@samanthasowell9307

11 ай бұрын

I think Jacob has trust issues like jack does. What is the difference? Is jack more awkward, and ultimately more lonely and seeking warmth then Jacob is? In a way she must be because she opens up fairly quickly. I don't think Jacob was too much of a coward to love anyone or open up to anyone. He even says that Miranda deserved a better man. Isn't that just another way to say she was too much for him? Sounds like he always wanted a quite mediocre life, where he could feel like he's loved or important, without having to compete for that recognition with his lover. He always gave me that impression and that's why I never liked him much myself😅

@Veldazandtea

10 ай бұрын

More abusive people are actually more likely to open up. They got more pent up inside them and have to outlet more. So it makes sense in that regard. Therefor it can be argued Jacob might be too well grounded. In fact he's very "normal". And that's not a good thing. I can assure you that normal people remain weak and insecure and make excuses for it. Which may explain why many dislike Jacob when they are reminded of their own reflection. Perhaps that's the point of Jacob. To help contrast the players reflection while adding a sense of normalcy.

Jacob is the one friend that just makes the other friends look better in comparison lol

Jacob feels like he was written by a completely different team than the rest of the characters

I think it's a testament to how bad Jacob is that I (who hasn't played the Mass Effect series in a good 4 years or so) clicked the video and said "wait, who's Jacob?"

@zigzaghyena

2 жыл бұрын

I just witnessed a murder and we can't even ID the victim.

The bad advice aspect hadn't occurred to me but is an irritant. You just can't talk to him, all conversations are strained and weird. And there are better fighters to take with you on missions.

@pikmonwolf

2 жыл бұрын

So true, his dialogue is all so clunky and unnatural.

@Blake4months

2 жыл бұрын

god forbidden you pick the supposed nice option too and you end up back in me1 avoiding 2 squadmates cause if you pick the nice options your flirting. bruh im tryin to make you loyal!

@Mysticgamer

2 жыл бұрын

@@Blake4months It's the worse part about talking to him with a femshep.

@Blake4months

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mysticgameri wont lie i just get his mission and upgrade i dont wanna deal with it anymore lol

@mxmissy

2 жыл бұрын

@@Blake4months It's what I did in my first playthrough of Legendary Edition, I just went "okay gonna renegade every option so I don't romance w/ you, get your loyalty mission, done it, never speaking to you again."

The way he talks to Thane makes me think there was going to be a confrontation like Jack vs Miranda or Tali vs Legion at one point.