Most countries "its my, no its my" Italy "bro, we share it"

@giovannispinotti

3 ай бұрын

Because it's more like: Every country in the World: "it's a shared border" The French: "no it's only ours".

"Both sides completely unwilling to compromise" But like, Italy's position seems to be "We share the mountain", which is at least some measure of compromise compared with France's "C'est a mine!!"

@GeoNoob

Жыл бұрын

CAUSE IT IS!!!!

@godogs89

Жыл бұрын

@@GeoNoob nope. France should be forced to return all of its stolen territory to Italy along with all of its stolen territory outside of Europe to the indigenous peoples. Until this happens France should have a global trade embargo placed on them, more restrictive than Iran’s or north Korea’s.

@NoName-hg6cc

Жыл бұрын

@@godogs89 Well said

@GeoNoob

Жыл бұрын

You're just mad cause napoleon made a fool out of whatever country your from

@GeoNoob

Жыл бұрын

@@godogs89 and all the territory was returned?? Well except for mainland france but that is frances land. And french Guyana was not returned because no one there wanted independence so it remained french. And if france has to have a global trade embargo then so should the uk, AND ALL THE **OTHER** FORMER COLONIAL EMPIRES because they did the same things, why doesn't belgium go through this with what they did in the congo??? Because the modern president doesn't (or as far as we know) want to do bad stuff in the congo, same with the Uk and the irish potato famine, the monarchy during the famine may have wanted to continue exporting food from ireland despite the hunger and sickness, but that doesn't mean the current monarchy wants to cause a famine. Just like France and any other country with a bad past. So go cry to the UN

But it's simple... why don't we share it ? I'm French and not gonna lie, the Italians had a good idea when they said it was split in two. Mont Blanc and Monte Bianco 🇫🇷🇮🇹👍

@Tommi414

Жыл бұрын

We had a good idea? Lmfao that’s just how it is. It’s literally written in the treaties of the 1860s.

@unknownzzz5115

Жыл бұрын

Yes we Italians and the French just want to drink wine, it’s only the governments that create these situations.

@kle_dis00

Жыл бұрын

As an italian i love french people 🇮🇹❤️🇫🇷

@Trixiyex

Жыл бұрын

@@kle_dis00 Same ! I love Italians people 🇫🇷❤🇮🇹

@tommarch.4493

Жыл бұрын

it's based on the definition of the border, choosing montains isnt as simple as you think, they can be multiple factors that you can choose from (peaks, rivers, etc), and then there the variables.

i didn't know this was even a thing, always knew it was half french, half italian. Borders in Europe are designed following natural barriers so it makes perfectly sense to be like that

@diegone080

Жыл бұрын

You have an italian name

@davideghirelli5856

Жыл бұрын

@@diegone080 because I am

@diegone080

Жыл бұрын

@@davideghirelli5856 lol ecco

@gringologie9302

Жыл бұрын

How border are design to ? Look at nothern part of France lool. Belgium literally is inside natural french border. A part of Netherland too. Luxembourg too. Little part of Germany too World isn't simple as that. Mont Blanc fully was in savoie territory. Savoie was given to France

@davideghirelli5856

Жыл бұрын

@@gringologie9302 in fact belgium Is half ethnically french. You are talking about a geographical area with no natural barriers wich has been a contended territory and at war for centuries lol, this area was choose to place the european parliament for this reason, to mantain peace especially between Germany and France

Never heard of the situation. But tbh sounds likes Italy border makes the most sense from somebody who has no idea it was happening.

@Solveig.Tissot

Жыл бұрын

Divide is for the weaks,we will take it by force ! 🇨🇵👍🏻

@lombardyball

Жыл бұрын

@@Solveig.Tissot try It🇮🇹🇮🇹

@Alleniro

Жыл бұрын

@@Solveig.Tissot froggy moment, btw I support the Italians.

@Alleniro

Жыл бұрын

but despite that I hate froggies at times, we had a common enemy, the Americans. They ruin immigrant foods to the fact that it became nasty.

@25_Magma

Жыл бұрын

@@Alleniro Honestly calling French people ''froggies'' is kinda cringe, i live in France and NEVER have i seen a single soul eat frogs, snails or anything related to theses in restaurants by the way i agree, i support Italians cause this border just looks ugly and the Italians' are better

the fact that the NATO maps use the italian version of the map tells us who the international community belive is right, (if you guys lost your version of the treaty of Turin it's YOUR FAULT).

@ni9274

Жыл бұрын

Everyone in France think the Mount blanc is half French half Italian. And I think the « Italian » map is used in French school. That’s our government problem not French problem.

@ludez106

Жыл бұрын

Completely agree with your thought also the peak of Monte bianco is in the Italian border so I do think it’s Italian.

@yo7015

Жыл бұрын

Based NATO

@miratowa1018

Жыл бұрын

@@ni9274La majorité des français pensent que le mont blanc est 100% français

@ImAndrea900

Жыл бұрын

@@miratowa1018 and it's indeed a bullshit.

Italy gained Veneto by joining the Austro-Prussian war not with French support. They gained Milan and central Italy with French support in the second Italian war of independence.

@levitschetter5288

Жыл бұрын

Prussia gave the land to France because they felt Italy didn't help out that much, and France didn't want it so they gave it to Italy

@jordanmason7127

Жыл бұрын

@@levitschetter5288 Austria you mean?

@OrsoBart7734

Жыл бұрын

​@@levitschetter5288 *Austria. And they ceded Veneto to France knowing full well that it would be immediately transferred to Italy, they just considered a direct territorial transfer to a newly unified Italy too humiliating.

@danielefabbro822

Жыл бұрын

We not "gained" nothing, those lands was ours since the beginning. French and Austrians was the abusives here. Now things are almost fine... even if parts of my Friuli are still under control of foreign countries. I remember you that Friuli was founded Avril 3, 1077. 😤

@patatafritta6329

Жыл бұрын

@@danielefabbro822 true

This video lacks a fundamental evidence that resolves the case in Italian favor. During the treaty of Turin (1860) the Italian government gave the administrative region of Savoy to France and the border between the Valle d’Aosta and Savoy was in the middle of Monte Bianco. Then after WW2 the french treaty of Turin was lost and then the French government started claiming jurisdiction on the top of Monte Bianco due to an earlier treaty made by Napoleon in 1797. This of course was a ridiculous claim made by the French government to obtain popularity, and today the top of Monte Bianco has Italian infrastructures on it. Please if you read this, Politics with Paint, make it the pin comment. By the way just saying, even the map of NATO has the mountain top divided in half between Italy and France.

@MKnew099

Жыл бұрын

If I remember correctly only the french documents of the treaty got lost after WW2 while the Italian ones still exists, but the french simply don't care and pretend that the treaty doesn't exist anymore just because they lost the documents. It's like if someone refused to pay the bills because they've lost them, it makes absolutely no sense.

@user-pj2xn2gd7y

Жыл бұрын

@@MKnew099 france as same number of border dispute as china. Thats explain a lot why they are reknown to be assholes

@gunalr9371

Жыл бұрын

Yea

@sledgehog1

Жыл бұрын

But infrastructures doesn't mean it belongs to a country...

@datboi7395

Жыл бұрын

@@sledgehog1 but the treaty does

Me, an intellectual: *Declares the mountain as a sovereign person.*

@doodlebug8376

Жыл бұрын

Yes

@97Corvi

Жыл бұрын

Me, an other intellectual: *give Montain to Nepal*

@milasudril

11 ай бұрын

@@97Corvi Or china, which has half the Everset and some others that determine the border between nepal and china

I actually live in the little city of St Gervais Les Bains, who owns the French « MontBlanc » and all of the story was very well explained. But the italians are right. There is a French Part and a Italian part of the « MontBlanc/Monte Bianco » It was a excellent video Edit: Thank you so much for 92 likes!

@Manakitsune

Жыл бұрын

Rpz la haute savoie ici ouiiii

@gringologie9302

Жыл бұрын

How Italians are right ? Mont Blanc was fully part of savoie territory.

@danielredmond1735

Жыл бұрын

@@gringologie9302 A part of savoy territory was in italy. The capital of savoy was Turin, a italian city.

@gringologie9302

Жыл бұрын

@@danielredmond1735 so french are very nice to stop to Mont Blanc.

@Anthik

Жыл бұрын

@@gringologie9302 no we are nice to not reclaim the whole of Savoy and Nizza

I genuinely believed that Mount Blanc was split in half thanks to a small french tourist book from the 70s. They mentioned is disputed but commonly believed to be split

@danielefabbro822

Жыл бұрын

It's "Monte Bianco" or "White Mountain".

@shakya00

Жыл бұрын

@@danielefabbro822 It's "Mont Blanc" both in French and English.

@danielefabbro822

Жыл бұрын

@@shakya00 yeah but the mountain is Italian so it's Monte Bianco. 😎🤣🤣🤣

@shakya00

Жыл бұрын

@@danielefabbro822 No it is shared and I'm being kind there...Don't play the dumb nationalist when your own government doesn't contest it.

@danielefabbro822

Жыл бұрын

@@shakya00 my dear friend, I'm doing the same thing that French have done to us. So if you don't want to hear, run.

Mountain is of both, this was the treaty and this is what is valid in international law. No need to say more

@solinvictus1234

Жыл бұрын

French declared that treaty without value. That's the weight of french honour...without value.

@erwannthietart3602

Жыл бұрын

@@solinvictus1234 i mean of it comes to "honour" who TF is innocent? Italian honour is litteraly known in history to be worthless with the most popular examples being both world wars, but the Italian wars are such a sh*t show its quite amazing anyone cares. British honor is also renowned to be worthless, unless its against France i guess but thats mutual and a thousand years old rivalry. German honor... its a weird one since Germany as country is very young and before that was... confusing as hell. No but seriously may the country that never betrayed a single one of its agreement throw the 1st stone. Plus im pretty sure ever since Bismarck the matter of Honour in Geopolitic is considered worthless, then again its been a while since i studied realpolitik

@solinvictus1234

Жыл бұрын

@@erwannthietart3602 The fact that you're ig or ant on the matter of Italy affairs in WW's, do not allow you to judge Italy as dishonourable in such a generalized way. Did you know that in WWI wasn't Italy to left the Triple Entente but Austro-Hungarians to betray the treaty and nullify it violating the Article 7? And if you want i will explain in details it to you. Did you know why Italy sided with Germany in WWII? Cause the dishonourable Americans, British and French, during the pact of London, do not gived the promised (verbally and on paper) lands to Italy agreed before the WWI and for that lands Italy lost millions of young men, that died for nothing at the end. Mussolini that fought WWI was so pissed off for this betrayal act that it would never side again with the allies. Germany honourable? Ahahah At the end of the day Italy's mistake was maybe to have been far too much honourable than anyone. No one it's innocent, but someone was less innocent that some others. And believe me, regarding the honour of Italians you do not know nothing, just the propagandistic side of the anglosaxon world.

@erwannthietart3602

Жыл бұрын

@@solinvictus1234 ig or ant? My god english words shortened to stuff i cant even understand since ig for me means "in game" and ant means just that "ant". I can still claim that Italy was dishonorable because even if they were "betrayed" they still attacked their former ally after accepting a litteral bribe made by the one supposed to be their ennemy consisting of mere promise to give land to Italy. Italian war still justify italian dishonor in general. WW2 still Italians turning on their German ally the moment the allies started winning no matter how little they wanted the war its still not something you would expect or want out of an honorable people, no matter how justified Italy was in joining the Axis in the 1st place. Now if you start ranting about how the Entente betrayed those who fought with them, nezrly no ine liked the peacedeals. Italy didnt like the peace deal because they wanted more, Austria didnt like the peace deal because their empire got cut apart, Germany didnt like it because of the many restrictions and loss of land etc... Bulgaria didnt like it because they lost all of their empire, the Greeks didnt like the peace deals because the Turks didnt let them keep Constantinople and Asia Minor, Hungary HATED the peacedeal because they fought against Austria in the End and they got scammed out of 50% of their historical land, and finnaly France also didnt like the Peacedeals because while they won their territorial objectives and all, they wanted to cut Germany apart mike Austria and got disapointed aswell because UK and USA said "f*** that idea, no way it could backfire in i dunno 20 years or smt" The only real happy ones were Belgium and Luxemburg, cus it survived, Poland and the Baltics cus they got free, The slavs in Tcheqoslovakia and i swear i never know how its written pls help, the Slavs of Yugoslavia which frankly Italy was very unhappy about like hungary and Bulgaria, Romania, USA, and UK, even Japan got a bit disapointed over the result since they couldnt get more money though in their case the dispointment would hurt a bit later with China and the treaty of Washington i think. The Entente were facing the problem of everyone wanted everything but both claims clashed so they compromised and it led to many unhappy countries

@simone105

Жыл бұрын

@@erwannthietart3602 the alliance treaty between Italy, Austria and Germany was purely defensive, since Austria is the one who declared the war against Serbia(without consulting Italy either), Italy had no reason to join the war. In ww2 Italy Mussolini got arrested and Italy surrendered to the allies, then Germany invaded the now neutral Italy and rescued Mussolini splitting Italy in half. Neither of the two wars has Italy betraying its allies, you can cope all you want, these are just the facts.

Se la Francia fa affidamento alle mappe risalenti all'era napoleonica; noi Italiani possiamo affidarci alle mappe dell'impero romano... :)

@Geointalian_Edits

Жыл бұрын

Infatti

@barmybarmecide5390

Жыл бұрын

Lmao try it and see pasta boy

@NoName-hg6cc

10 ай бұрын

​​@@barmybarmecide5390You try baguettes. There will always be a Pietro Micca or a Fornovo for you 😂

@grandmanitou6563

2 күн бұрын

Sure, I guess France gets all of cisalpine Gaul then, you are very generous.

I think it's important to underline that Aosta is a semi-autonomous region. This is highly respected by the Italian government who maintain limited control over the region's governance. The area functionally behaves as laid out by the Italian government though as far as the perception on the ground. The border crossings at the tunnel, service providers and signs displaying official authority contacts make is seem that way. The summit and main tourist attractions are largely operated by the Italian side in Courmayeur, Aosta

Honestly here, France just seems greedy, Italy's divide seems fair.

@Solveig.Tissot

Жыл бұрын

Divide ? That's for the weaks ! We will take this by force ! 🇨🇵❤️

@strasbourgeois1

Жыл бұрын

We conquered it, and so it remains French. Only if Italy could conquer it back will I settle. Till that day comes, I stick beside my reasoning.

@aguscm4175

Жыл бұрын

@@strasbourgeois1 1st you haven't conquered shit, that would imply french troops there and de facto french authority and neither are true. 2nd you have nothing to settle cause you're nobody.

@sator3946

Жыл бұрын

@@strasbourgeois1 "we conquered it" Ehm no. I don't see any french soldier on the mountain. And the buildings on the mountain were constructed by italian people. International law says that Monte Bianco (Mont Blanc) is both italian and french. LMAO, french imperialism is so funny.

@strasbourgeois1

Жыл бұрын

@@sator3946 If there were a French soldier on the mountain, that would provoke Italy furthermore. Hypothetically, a French soldier crossing into Italian juridical land would be seen as something like trespassing or invasion. Something we are smart enough to understand. And again, like the video says, it can be written on paper or whatever, but you cannot stop the dispute.

What an amazing video! You went over history, politics and different solutions propossed! 10/10

Well researched and interesting as always, now with subtitle as well! *chef's kiss*

@PoliticswithPaint

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it, and thank you for the donation!

I'm French, but I always thought that this mountain is half French half Italian. This dispute is a pure anecdote anyway; in practice, who cares?

@gringologie9302

Жыл бұрын

Ecology. As Italy isn't famous to protect environment. Mountain is threatens by warming change.

@lorenzomariani503

Жыл бұрын

@@gringologie9302 "Italy isn't famous to protect environment" nope, we care about our environment as much as France and the rest of Europe. We've a lot of inaccesible islands protected by the law, national forest and a lot protected species (read the story of the reintroduction of the Appennine wolf and the Alpine Bears). Also we are very good on recycling (first in Europe for recycling paper); and to finish, right now we're doing new laws to protect animals and environment. Stop using this stupid prejudice, thanks.

@NoName-hg6cc

Жыл бұрын

@@gringologie9302 Ahahahahahahaahahahahahahaaha France is know to not care at all about environment

@nailil5722

Жыл бұрын

​@@gringologie9302 what a joke. France is still holding on a colonial system 2 centuries later, definitely not better than Italy

@barmybarmecide5390

Жыл бұрын

​@@nailil5722no France doesn't lmao, one google search would be enough to disabuse you of that notion. and no, a thing is not true because Sputnik Afrique said so 😂

The French base it's border on the treaty of Chambéry (1790’) but the new treaty of Torino (1860') say that the border Is based on the natural crest of the Mountain

@eljanrimsa5843

Жыл бұрын

But the treaty of 1860 has some obvious problems, its wording suggests they were not aware of the actual geography. That's why both sides can base their opinion on this treaty.

@avoig_3219

Жыл бұрын

Italy in the treaty of “Torino” give Savoia and Nizza to France for the help against Austria in the second war of independence. So if the treaty of 1860 doesn't exist Italy would have Savoia and Nizza. The treaty signed by the two side but the french copy vanished misteriously.

@NoName-hg6cc

10 ай бұрын

​@@eljanrimsa5843It hasn't any problem except it crash with French Médiocrité. But it is the Treaty in use so...

Unfair that France gets to claim the whole of the biggest mountain when the border otherwise straddles the mountain ridge, but I get just giving it up wont do for a proud nation like France, which I think leads to the only possible answer being Italy and France having to go to war over the mountain.

@levitschetter5288

Жыл бұрын

They should do like the Canadians and take turns leaving alcoholic beverages up there

@MrPeterPan

Жыл бұрын

The highest mountain in Europe is in Russia.

@ThePussukka

Жыл бұрын

@@MrPeterPan 0:32

@TheMammucaro

Жыл бұрын

exactly, and people saying that wars are useless...

@piotrcarafa7993

Жыл бұрын

That's why a lot of people agreed on the diplomatic partition of Monte Bianco. But French are too proud go on that eay, good or bad. That's why many in Italy can't stand France on Italic territories(no Italian, mind you). I.e. Corsica, Savoia(Savoy) and Nizza(Nice).

Thank you for covering these unknown subjects ! Your videos are amazingly instructive and the countryballs are cute ^^

Politics with paint congrats on 60k subs

Everybody in France say that's its split in two, never heared about this conflict tbh

@gringologie9302

Жыл бұрын

No no everybody in France doesn't says that

@dairop3220

Жыл бұрын

@@gringologie9302 Never met somebody that doesn't but let's say a vast majority

In this clip there are many incorrect informations. IE France helped the Kingdom of Sardinia to obtain Lombardy (annexed 1859), not Veneto (annexed 1866), and the Congress of Vienna was already happening during Napoleon's 100 days. The treaty of Turin (1860) clearly put the border at the watershed (there's even an attached map), passing through the highest peaks. During IIWW the French "lost" the maps that were attached to their copy of the treaty of Turin, and that farce begun. Mind that the alpine rescue in the "contested" area is always performed by the Italian CNSAS, since it would be ridicolus to reach that territory from Chamonix.

@tot0m

3 күн бұрын

Problem is USA refused french legitimate claims in 1944 on all the Moutain Val d'Aoste, Vallées Occitanes et Arpitaness. USA thought that Italy could became communist doing this while De Gaulle And Tito hated each other. But truth is since 1922 french and occitan speaker here where forced to assimilate thanks to Mussolini politic of uniformisation. Italy backstabbed France in 1940 (and failed without Germans) even if italian occipation were not so harsh compared to german and later american/british. This last point make reconciliation easier between France and Italy even if France was not avenged for the backstab.

@neutronalchemist3241

3 күн бұрын

@@tot0m French talking of legitimacy and forced assimilation when they democratically eliminated German speakers from Alsace and Lorraine are funny. It would be interesting to see how this forced assimilation happened when, until the end of WWII, the second language taught in Italian schools was French.

@tot0m

3 күн бұрын

​@@neutronalchemist3241 I do not really see the point with Alsace-Moselle (not Lorraine) we are talking about France and Italy. We can talk about Italy and Germany too, 1943, 1944 république of Salo, annexion of Trento-Adige... if you really want to talk about forced assimilation OZAK and OZAV zone may interest you. I am alsatian, my ancesters were french even before Germany was created. Alsace-Moselle history is not so simple than in Alps. I didn't say France is more legitimate than Italy to rule in Aoste or everywhere else. I just say Italian irredentism and German irredentism is a bullshit for humanity, only trying to base racial identity first with hair color then with language and then make people hate each other. Mont Blanc had never been call Monte Blanco by his neightboor, it always had been Mont Blanc or Glaciales Montes, Mont Maudit, Mont Mallet... nothing to struggle with Tuscan (modern Italian).

@neutronalchemist3241

3 күн бұрын

@@tot0m LOL! when few French speakers in a minuscule region of little more than 100.000 inhabitants decrease it's "forced assimilation". When France eliminates millions of German speakers from two big regions "it's not that simple". 😂 Yes, it's that simple. Democratic France had carried out policies of forced assimilation that were worse than the fascist ones, for much more time than the fascists did, and succeeded in eliminating those pesky not-French form it's territory. Their choice. It become quite funny when they pretend to preach others. Especially others that have flourishing German and Ladin speaking communities. The only thing the French should try to teach to the Italians is how to get rid of them. As for Salo, since you are at it, you can also speak about the enlightened racial policies of Vichy France. The name of the mountain has nothing to do with the position of the border.

Unless there's a settlement on top a mountain is divided, that's common sense. It's a natural barrier, after all!

As a French, I never knew there was a territorial dispute around Mont Blanc.

@locusta4662

Жыл бұрын

there is a dispute even for the waters . Basically France denies the existence of north Sardinia waters

@erwannthietart3602

Жыл бұрын

@@locusta4662 well gotta keep the record of like 13 territorial disputes lol ^^

@kinggeedorah8303

Жыл бұрын

@@erwannthietart3602 🤮🤮🤮

@erwannthietart3602

Жыл бұрын

@@kinggeedorah8303 you can cope and puke as much as you want but those territories still belongs to France now and its certainly doesnt seem like its gonna change anytime soon

@kinggeedorah8303

Жыл бұрын

@@erwannthietart3602 what territories? Monte Bianco Is split in 2 in every map exept french ones. Accept It: you are wrong

Nice video. In a close video you could talk about the issue of Olivença between Portugal and Spain

I started laughing when I heard that the commission takes with finding a solution declared that it wasn't their problem 🤣🤣🤣

I love our channel, keep up the good work!

@ServantoftheDivine1701

Жыл бұрын

Communism?

@cerebrummaximus3762

Жыл бұрын

@@ServantoftheDivine1701 I am currently deciding on whether I should say "sorry m8, ur replying to the wrong person", or just go with it, and reply "Close, Socialism." and call it a day!

@Coldtea25

Жыл бұрын

@@ServantoftheDivine1701 it's not Italys or Frances Mountain, it's OUR mountain

Italy is right for two reasons 1. It's originally Italian 2. I don't like France

@Solveig.Tissot

Жыл бұрын

Average Virgin Brainless Anti France comment ⬆️

@Hans_dds

Жыл бұрын

Fair enough

@SaladeDeFruitt

Жыл бұрын

You're wrong and I'm right for two reasons 1. Italians are losers 2. I'm french

@SaladeDeFruitt

Жыл бұрын

I'm french and France is right for sure

@wankawanka3053

Жыл бұрын

France is right

Your voice is so soothing

Fun fact: about Mona Lisa everything should have been resolved, recently an original copy of the paint has been found in Italy, so it is not a problem anymore

@thngvbts5182

Жыл бұрын

The Mona Lisa is more the face of the issue it’s not the issue itself, is famous so people use it as an example but it’s actually one of the few that wasn’t stolen but! the majority of the Italian art at the louvre is!

@giorgiociaravolol1998

Жыл бұрын

@@thngvbts5182 true

@Maturewind

Жыл бұрын

@Chemya Da Vinci made two Mona Lisa in the same period

@avoig_3219

Жыл бұрын

@@thngvbts5182 It's true. Why no one speack about the Canova's sculpture

@BasilicataBall

Жыл бұрын

the french stole many arts from italian land during the napoleonic war.

Fun fact: The Mona Lisa was not stolen, but sold by Leonardo himself, it was commissioned by the french. The funny thing is someone tried "stealing" it to bring it back to Italy once.

@divicarpe1844

Жыл бұрын

Fun fact: the Mona Lisa wasn't sold, it was given by Leonardo to the French king.

@tommivalle2652

Жыл бұрын

@@divicarpe1844 Yeah, I meant that Leonardo was commissioned by the french to do it. Unclear, my apologies

@divicarpe1844

Жыл бұрын

@@tommivalle2652 It wasn't even commissioned, Leonardo worked on it far before coming in France. It was just a gift.

@avoig_3219

Жыл бұрын

I'm an italian and you're right. But a lot of other italian pictures and sculptures are stolen during the Napoleonic Italian campaign.

from an italian. the treaty of turin established a fine border between italy and france and monte bianco was clearly split. and in 1946 when we handed a small ethnic territory along the border italian diplomats were able to maintain the border between monte bianco from the treaty of turin (but we lost some small insignificant border areas in 1946) however, france signed this treaty of paris meaning that they respect italys border and if they do not respect it they are all together denying the treaty of paris which would make the border territories part of italy. unless france wants to lose those territories they must recognise italian authority over the eastern side of monte bianco.

It's Georgian Not because the highest mountain in Europe is Elbrus, but because France and Italy are rightful Georgian clay 😎

@MacAnters

Жыл бұрын

Based

@Lario_

Жыл бұрын

But Georgia Is owned by Buthan

@25_Magma

Жыл бұрын

@@Lario_ But i thought Buthan is owned by Liechtenstein

@vittorioarioli9127

Жыл бұрын

But Liechtenstein is owned by the Papal state

@25_Magma

Жыл бұрын

@@vittorioarioli9127 Right, i forgot, but the Papal States are owned by St Kitts

As a spaniard mount bianco sounds better.

@thngvbts5182

Жыл бұрын

Monte blanc sounds like an insult

@lucaesposito6896

Жыл бұрын

*Monte Bianco

@bigshot8836

Жыл бұрын

As an italian i approve

Abbiamo già dato con la perdita di Nizza, Savoia, Briga, Tenda, e gli altri territorio, per non parlare della Corsica. Il Monte Bianco si dice di dividerlo, i francesi lo vogliono tutto per loro, a quale compromesso dovremmo scendere ulteriormente? Non sarebbe un compromesso, sarebbe perdere ancora una volta tutto e basta.

@grandmanitou6563

2 күн бұрын

Lmao Italy sold Corsica because it wasn't abloe to hold on to it and now wants to claim it back ? wth

As said in the treaty of turin that declares the passage of savoy and nizza to italy to france, the border pass truh the mont blanc/monte bianco giving half mount to france and half mount to italy, but france refer its border from a document dating 70 years before the treaty of turin making a huge mess

The French and the Italians send their very best close-quarters combatant to battle on the mountaintop to boost tourism for both sides, whoever's country wins owns all of the mountain for 4 years. If it is a draw, the whole mountain goes to Switzerland for 4 years until combatants can reconvene.

@tommasobianchin5889

Ай бұрын

Bruh, that's a fucking war💀 no thank you

It will be cool if you make a video about the yugoslav wars

"Love, which quickly arrests the gentle heart, Seized him with my beautiful form That was taken from me, in a manner which still grieves me. Love, which pardons no beloved from loving, took me so strongly with delight in him That, as you see, it still abandons me not...” ― Dante Alighieri,

@tuluppampam

Жыл бұрын

Amor, ch'al cor gentile ratto s'apprende Prese colui de la bella persona Che mi fu tolta; e'l modo ancor m'offende. Amor ch'a nullo amato amar perdona, Mi prese del costui piacer sì forte, Che, come vedi, ancor non m'abbandona. The translation you offered changes a bit the meaning of the two stanzas, so, as I studied these verses recently and as an Italian, I'll try to write a better, non in the form of a poem, translation, more accurate to the original Love, which quickly inhabits the noble heart (noble as in pure; gentle is plain wrong, at least as it's used today) Seized him with my beautiful form That was taken from me, in a manner which still offends me. Love, which doesn't allow any beloved not to love (as in: it's impossible to not love back) Gave me so strong love of him, That, as you can see, still doesn't abandon me. Now my translation could be improved a lot, but it retains the original meaning a bit better, at least in my opinion, as I don't know all about English

Title:how to start a war in the comments

@PoliticswithPaint

Жыл бұрын

My videos are all about starting wars in the comments :' )

@Sus-od2vn

Жыл бұрын

I'm subscribed ;⁠)

As an Italian before this video i think that the mountain was split or entire Italian.

@Icy_Polish_Italian

Жыл бұрын

Io pure 👁️👄👁️

@panino_gamer19

Жыл бұрын

Interamente italiana no, il trattato di Torino sancisce che il monte bianco è spartito tra Italia e Francia e così deve essere e rimanere

Some people say Elbrus is the tallest peak and other say it is monte Bianco/mont blanc it depends on who you ask.

@andert6

Жыл бұрын

If you consider the Caucasus countries European then Mount Elbrus would be the tallest but if you consider them as Asian then it’s monte Branco

@AdamMaxx

Жыл бұрын

@@andert6 technically Europe, but actually Asia.

@julien3331

Жыл бұрын

Easy, mont blanc in the european union and elbrus in Europe.

@tuluppampam

Жыл бұрын

Continents are not clearly defined even as a concept, meaning that really you could even say that mount Everest is the tallest mountain of Oceania and you'd still be right

@milasudril

11 ай бұрын

Elbrus is in Europe, but is a volcano, not a mountain.

Your channel is ultra underrated((((

wow, I'm suprised to see the french commentators saying that the mountain should be half and half. I mean probalìbily it is just a stereotype, but in Italy everyone thinks that the french are the most nationalist and patriotic people in Europe, seems not true, or at least seems not true anymore.

@erwannthietart3602

Жыл бұрын

Its a bit... complicated There are plenty of patriotism and especially chauvinism in France still today, i mean former global empire and all that, being grouped with the underdogs and not the superpowers and all definitly hurts our pride one way or another. But in the meantime i also found as a french that in the West Europe the most Patriotic and nationalist people ive met were Italians because "grrr give us Corsica and Nice, and all the stuff you stole you damn frenchmen". Its a matter of pov really. The problem over the mountain is really not dealt with on the french side not because of needless pride however, but because no one actually gives a f about it beyond "oh yea, its french, neat", like the mere idea of sharing it with Italy never comes up because well, all we learn is that its french and its never mentionned again unless you study history thouroughly, geopolitics, or are just curious enough that stuff like this video shows up in recommandation. Really obscurity and the remnant of chauvinism (sorta nationalism except more french) is the litteral only thing that prevents us from actually dealing with this border inconveniance

00:32 lmao he knew these comments would come

Of course the french wants all of it

@Solveig.Tissot

Жыл бұрын

Based France,as always :)

@riograndedosulball248

Жыл бұрын

@@Solveig.Tissot there has been not, and never will be, anything based coming from France. It's phisically impossible.

@Solveig.Tissot

Жыл бұрын

@@riograndedosulball248 Average Virgin Brainless Cringe Anti France Troll Fanboy VS The Chad Based God France Enjoyer,cope harder :)

@lamouettegaming

Жыл бұрын

@@riograndedosulball248 Bro... That's called racism

@donaldtrump2598

Жыл бұрын

@@lamouettegaming reality is sometimes disappointing

to me (an italian) monte bianco is just italian and I even claim Savoy and Nice as italian territory under french control

@grandmanitou6563

2 күн бұрын

Weakest country in the world starts claiming territories from people that bullied them their entire history and only recently allowed them to unite lmao

Italy: Meet France, our bossy and spoiled cousin with a passion for cultural appropriation.

@shrektheswampless6102

Жыл бұрын

more or less

@erwannthietart3602

Жыл бұрын

Now now, bossy and spoiled? Oh i fully agree, but a passion for cultural appropriation? Tssk how rude, an Obsession would be the correct word, you WILL give us your food recipe and we WILL adopt it as our own and upgrade it into its own thing

That's why a lot of people agreed on the diplomatic partition of Monte Bianco. French are too proud go on that eay, good or bad. That's why many in Italy can't stand France on Italic territories(no Italian, mind you). I.e. Corsica, Savoia(Savoy) and Nizza(Nice). (P.S. due to recent idiots I need to specify, I'm not stating my belief and my point of view. It's the general outlook. So before you make yourself a joke or just strengthen bad stereotypes,please think before you write) [I really need to say again Italic≠Italian]

@SaladeDeFruitt

Жыл бұрын

You really consider Corse, Savoy and Nice to be Italian? Kinda cringe considering they are french speaking and cultured places, find yourself a stable government instead of being mad for France having more territory

@vins0038

Жыл бұрын

@@SaladeDeFruitt Corsica and Nizza are Italian

@Reyob

Жыл бұрын

@@vins0038 go ask that to a Corsican or a Niçois if they feel Italian

@piotrcarafa7993

Жыл бұрын

@@SaladeDeFruitt Italic≠Italian, I can understand without prior knowledge all dialects of the region. Without talking about Corsica, that is litteraly just slightly different from Sardo.

@piotrcarafa7993

Жыл бұрын

@@Reyob How many times you need to press people French culture and language before they shut up. That's litteraly Corsica history.

Wait, isn't the French Italian border just Switzerland?

@johnneumann7273

Жыл бұрын

nope

@masscreationbroadcasts

Жыл бұрын

@@johnneumann7273 The French German border is Belgium.

@johnneumann7273

Жыл бұрын

@@masscreationbroadcasts ahhhhh of course

@SmashingCapital

Жыл бұрын

What

@RandomDude-dc8dd

Жыл бұрын

@@masscreationbroadcasts The Nato-Russia Border is Ukraine

If only Savoy and Nizza were still under Italian rule this would all be so easy

@zeniith

Жыл бұрын

If only Aosta and Genoa were still French

@Boretheory

Жыл бұрын

@@zeniith there’s a difference France occupied those regions without any French in it. While Savoy and Nizza had many ethnically Italians which you French can’t even deny since Garibaldi was from Nice

@AlexanderLittlebears

Жыл бұрын

@@Boretheory Nice was Italian, but Savoy was definitely French

@zeniith

Жыл бұрын

@@Boretheory i was just responding to the first comment

@lvididnothingwrong1958

Жыл бұрын

@@Boretheory savoy had some scattered italo-arpitans but they were mostly bilingual with french and italian was their second language. Nice however was 90% italian, and in 1870 garibaldi actually won the local elections and went on to represent the region in parliament. His requests were ignored and italians were either killed or deported while parisians were moved to nice en masse to change the local majority. Fun fact nicois(nizzardo) is a dialect of ligurian (of you are italian) or occitan (if you are french). The french changed the spelling rules of the dialect to be more french live "today" was "tuggiù" (still pronounced like this) but the french tought it should be spelled "toujou" to be closer to the french "toujours"

Considering it was the Italians (Sardinians) who ceded the territory to France, they are the ones who would best know the borders of the territory they agreed to cede. What France is doing is claiming that the Italians ceded more territory than they agreed to.

“The French believe that kids feel confident when they're able to do things for themselves, and do those things well. After children have learned to talk, adults don't praise them for saying just anything. They praise them for saying interesting things, and for speaking well.” ― Pamela Druckerman

@laiglenoir6938

Жыл бұрын

am French

@danielefabbro822

Жыл бұрын

In Friuli we have a motto that says (for the kids) : "Eat, Grow, Obey, Working". That's what a good kid have to do to be treated well here.

@antonygattini3073

Жыл бұрын

@@danielefabbro822 per fortuna fra 197 anni voi italiani non ci sarete più:)

0:14 careful the top right painting is Dutch, not Italian !

The valid treaty is the one following the cession of Savoy in 1860 in which the summit of Mont Blanc is halfway between the two states. This was the last treaty signed since following the end of World War II Italy has cedes some lands to France but none of them was on Mount Blanc. So the real border is the one of 1860 when thr borded was on the top od Mountain

Just to clarify, Italians don't hate the French we just consider them to be snobs mainly because of Parisians' reputation worldwide. Some brain-dead Italians argue that the Gioconda, Corsica and Savoia should be returned to Italy cause in their opinion France stole them but that's just nonsense and no-one in their right mind supports those outlandish claims. That being said France does have quite an attitude, the French never really got past their imperialist ideas and to this day keep on a almost colonial grasp on Africa with consequences affecting everyone in Europe, they insist in somewhat extreme policies regarding minorities which lead and are leading to almost cultural genocidal results, Corsica being the main example, and generally the French maintain a militaristic sentiment almost unique to them in the EU. This French "grandeur" is also shown in the Monte Bianco issue since even though there are official documents splitting the Mountain in two, mainly the Treaty of Turin from the year 1860, the French still insist they own basically the entire thing, as an EU enthusiast I hope the issue will be soon settled but a bit of a collaborative attitude by the French would be much appreciated, maybe while we are at it we could also solve the Sardinia waters controversy since once again France is acting like Sardinia isn't an island capable of exercising a marine border in the Mediterranean.

@Boretheory

Жыл бұрын

Also the French being the most childish and least respectable ppl on the continent might contribute

@crkcrk702

Жыл бұрын

There were no genocidal attitude in Corsica ? The region maintains an autonomous status. Although I agree with the other things you mentioned. Yes, it would be easy to find a compromise. I personnaly think sharing is the right solution, it would also prove that two nations can be friends. A french Mt Blanc is acknowledging of the local realities.

@Old_Harry7

Жыл бұрын

@@crkcrk702 Corsicans are asked by the government to unify into French culture proper, their language is dying and their culture with it, doesn't matter if it's an autonomous region if they can't act like it. Corsica is basically living the same horrible fate Occitania went through.

@crkcrk702

Жыл бұрын

@@Old_Harry7 Corsicans voted no for independance And how are the langages of Italia outside toscanese ?

@Old_Harry7

Жыл бұрын

@@crkcrk702 I'm not talking about independence, that's not my point, what I'm saying is France should protect and encourage cultural diversity within non French proper regions. Italy values all of its dialects and outright recognise tongues such as Sardinian as proper languages which are for example even learnt in school and read on textbooks.

France didn't help Italy take Veneto, that was prussia defeating austria also for us. (France helped for Lombardy)

@tommarch.4493

Жыл бұрын

France annexed Veneto for 30min and gave it to Italy

Italy seems to be the reasonable side here... Share the mountain.

@grandmanitou6563

2 күн бұрын

Sure I'll guess it's reasonable if you share half of your house with me then

Peaceful run: it’s of both

@gringologie9302

Жыл бұрын

How peacefull ? Savoie was given to France. Mont Blanc fully is in savoie. If Italy wants half of it, that's not the peacefull solution

@NoName-hg6cc

Жыл бұрын

@@gringologie9302 Monte Bianco is in Italy, not Savoia. If France wants something someone else has it's unjust

@giulianoilfilosofo7927

Жыл бұрын

@@gringologie9302 Can you stop with ths chauvinistic french bullshit? The mountain is shared, treaty of Turin,1861, your cuck government signed it.

I am just wondering, why did you show the painting with all the greek philosopfers next to the painting "Lady Liberty leading the people"?

Dear Politics With Paint. If you could include in one of your videos you should add Arizonaball hugging a saguaro cactus brought to said region that would be a nice cameo.

@patro734

Жыл бұрын

Reason?

@iamarizonaball2642

Жыл бұрын

@@patro734 Why Not?

It is actually not Kingdom of Savoy-Sardinia, but Kingdom of Piedmont-Sardinia.

@jecko980

Жыл бұрын

It's actually Kingdom of Sardinia cuz Piedmont was a principality

@romaingillet2526

Жыл бұрын

@@jecko980 Savoy took the Sardinia and the Piedmont to form Piedmond sardinia kingdom

@jecko980

Жыл бұрын

@@romaingillet2526 nope, Savoy took Sicily but exchanged it with the kingdom of Sardinia that was in Neapolitan hands, so just to have a Kingdom title they renamed them Kingdom of Sardinia, Piedmont was a principality

@maxgagliano

Жыл бұрын

Regno di Sardegna .

@avoig_3219

Жыл бұрын

@@jecko980 Yes but in english they call it every time Sardinia-Piedmomt

As a German, I can only say, Monte Bianco is definitely Italian. If we can't have it, the frogeaters can't have it as well haha. (Not meant offensive ;D, but it is italian)

France and Italy should share it, French gov just has to say it is an act of international friendship and a show of european cooperation if they think that sharing would hurt their pride. In practice it already works like if it was shared (montain rescues being conducted by the Italians on their side for exemple).

As far as I know, the dispute is whether the border pass through the main summit of Mont Blanc or through the highest subsummit Mont Blanc de Courmayeur, which is ~50m below and a few 100s meters away, a flat saddle separating the 2. This last summit is the one visible from Courmayeur, and not the main summit. It is also a rocky summit, while the main summit is only ice/snow. The key point on the treaty of 1860 is whether the border follow the ridge, as visible from Courmayeur, or through the watershed ridge, the redaction is unclear and the maps of the time, not so precise. Besides, due to continuous evolution of the snow/ice cover, the ridges from the main summit always change whereas the ones from the Mont blanc de Courmayeur do less (when rocks fall). Putting a border on a changing glacier is not the best idea when you can use a rocky ridge instead😀.

@NoName-hg6cc

4 ай бұрын

The border is on the summit. The treaty is quite clear on that

Even if I'm french, I'm on Italy side for this one. Like, it's just seem more faire historically or geopolitical wise. But our food still better tho.

@NIDELLANEUM

Жыл бұрын

As an Italian, I just think it's unfair that France doesn't get to fulfil its claims. Sure, historically, it would make sense, but so would the island of Corsica, and yet nobody would doubt it is a rightfully French island

@freespiritedd

Жыл бұрын

Italy's food is better. Pasta > frog

@AlexanderLittlebears

Жыл бұрын

@@freespiritedd Frogs are traditional of Northern Italy too

@sebbo_h7121

Жыл бұрын

@@AlexanderLittlebears never seen a cooked frog in my entire life and I live there

@matteoc.6162

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, bread and butter is the best food ever

The sheer level of anti Italianism displayed by the French in the comments should be self explanatory as far as the attitude of the french State in international disputes is concerned. It is always the French government that provokes Italy. The French live in their little francophone bubble, ignoring everything else around them, including the criminal foreign policy of their own government. An example would be the Mitterand Doctrine, with France providing diplomatic immunity to far left terrorists from Italy for 4 decades and systematically refusing extradition. The funny thing is that many Italians choose France as their holiday destination spending their money there, visiting Paris in the millions, and are absolutely oblivious to how much the French despise us. It is quite sad, really.

@rb026

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunatly I read all your dumb comment since everybody is on strike as always so I have time to lose. I’m French and I really like Italy and italians I travelled there once bc it’s not that far from Grenoble where I grew up, and since this trip I just want to go back and visit more bc Italy is a beautiful place imo and the gastronomy is awesome so stop trash talking plz ! Andiamo regazzi !

Italy owns the mountain. *From a german*

@gringologie9302

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the entire world knows that German have difficulty to understand any kind of treaty.

@camm8642

Жыл бұрын

I doubt the french care to much about a german opinion......

A way to fix it would be for both regions on each side to declare independence and become 1 country, that way nobody gets to have pride in owning it.

@dd-nz8ry

Жыл бұрын

Switzerland: It's free real estate.

Sure, the border should follow the main ridge, since it is a natural boundary.

To me the true dispute is those lands of Nizza "Nice" back to Italy and also Fiume "Rijeka".

@camm8642

Жыл бұрын

there is no real dispute nice is French and France....honestly there are areas in the northern most areas of italy that austria could claim with some legtimacy

@NoName-hg6cc

Жыл бұрын

@@camm8642 No, there aren't. There are some areas like Nizza( Italian) that are not French and other states, like Germany, could claim

@camm8642

Жыл бұрын

@@NoName-hg6cc you are wong parts of northern italy could easily go back to austria

@NoName-hg6cc

Жыл бұрын

@@camm8642 No, you are wrong. Part of France could go back to Italy or Germany

@snoweather2990

Жыл бұрын

@@NoName-hg6cc Like Alto-Adige isn't italian. It's true in fact, like nice or Strasbourg aren't the cultural heart or France

Io pensavo che era nostro, non sapevo che era pure Francese mai sentito.🇮🇹

@crkcrk702

Жыл бұрын

As a french I also thought it was only ours ^^'

@cosimobrandizzi7922

Жыл бұрын

@@crkcrk702 hah well this explains the 2 map trouble

@lamouettegaming

Жыл бұрын

Guess we can consider it both French and Italian

Why? There’s no reason to fight, because the mountain is split in two with the Treaty of Turin in 1860… and it doesn’t matter that France says “we lost our copy of the treaty during WW2”, in the hope that they can go back to the Napoleonic maps and try to steal someone else’s land yet again. Saying that a treaty isn’t valid just because you lost your copy, is as idiotic as throwing away your heating bill and then refusing to pay by saying that you owe no money for heating.

is it translated from the episode of arte released 2 weeks ago?

09:00 I suspect that Italian laws against putting pineapple on pizza are harsher than French laws on the matter.

To be honest the entire Savoia region is Italy, so no douts to who the mountain belong to.

@rolletroll2338

Жыл бұрын

Huuum no.

@robertocalibancove8245

Жыл бұрын

@@rolletroll2338 Huuum sì.

@gringologie9302

Жыл бұрын

@@robertocalibancove8245 Savoie was given to France in 1860. End of story.

@robertocalibancove8245

Жыл бұрын

@@gringologie9302 Savoia was stolen from France, history goes on.

Wow!

I wish all border conflicts in the world were like this one...

I'm gonna bite the bullet and be the guy who says it, but is there a reason you're not considering the like 10 mountains in the Caucasus range when calling this one the tallest in Europe? I'm not very familiar with the topic, so any answers would be appreciated.

@riccardogemme

Жыл бұрын

Other then che Caucasus itself (and the Urals) being kind of the intercontinental border and the border itself not being precisely defined (a bit like for Turkey), I'd guess it's mostly for historical reasons. In the sense "the mountain that has historically been considered the highest in Europe".

@krriiah

Жыл бұрын

@@riccardogemme thanks a lot!

cool

Victor Emmanuel II only reigned from 1849-1878. His predecessor, Charles Albert, started a lot of the process of unification in 1848.

I would argue that Mountain Elbrus is not even in Europe, as many people in Europe identify Volga-Don Canal and its rivers as the Asia-Europe boundary. 0:33

@eljanrimsa5843

Жыл бұрын

Not many people do this anymore. It was common in the Soviet Union, but today the most commonly used definition for the Asia-Europe boundary are the watersheds, which puts Mount Elbrus right on this border.

Imo it’s pretty simple: 1860 - Treaty of Turin, the king of Italy Victort Emanuell II ceded to France some bording territories to thank France for the military help in the italian second war of independence. The boarders were then decided to follow the natural peak of the mountain. But almost immediately after the french army produced a personal version of the map including the whole mountain in french territory and that map was later adopted also as french civil map. Nevertheless in the international conventions ratified by the UN right after the conflict, the Treaty of Turin was respected and the border matched exactly the peak on the mountain. Nowadays France claim they don’t have a copy of the Treaty of Turin in their archives, that they lost it, that it probably went destroyed during the german invasion. I guess it may be somehow shocking to french people born and raised in France with the idea that the Mont Blanc / Monte Bianco is totally in french territory, to find out that actually it isn’t and that the peak is shared with Italy but they can’t blame the italian if they invented their own map.

Zidane's headbutt is very similar to what Tyson did in boxing, but slightly less bloody.

@solinvictus1234

Жыл бұрын

Zidane headbutt showed how silly are the french and how smart are the italians. Nothing more and nothing less.

@luciusdomitiusaurelianus5334

Жыл бұрын

@@solinvictus1234 God? Is that you? Aurelian?

@solinvictus1234

Жыл бұрын

@@luciusdomitiusaurelianus5334 Aurelianus for friends 😉

@lamouettegaming

Жыл бұрын

@@solinvictus1234 Zidane said after the match end that Materazzi insult a member of his family. That's not what I will call ''smart''

@solinvictus1234

Жыл бұрын

@@lamouettegaming I will call smart as sh..t. Materazzi did that to get Zidane angry, and that worked flawlessly. It's no more and no less a smart tactic that any worlds Defender use, since the dawn of time and also in this days. It's the midfielder/striker that should be smarter than the defender and do not fall in hos provocations.

3:25 France wasnt there in the 1815 conference of Vienna. It was only in the 1814 one.

@gontrandjojo9747

Жыл бұрын

France was there in both.

@nicocola284

Жыл бұрын

@@gontrandjojo9747 yes but not as an actor

@nicocola284

Жыл бұрын

@@gontrandjojo9747 ok it was dumb from me to write that now i realise

Looks like this is gonna go like it was in the past.

Start a Wine war instead of Whiskey War for it

I will claim mont blanc as mine

@maxgagliano

Жыл бұрын

No sorry , it's mine ; and the square in front of my house too .

Me knowing neither of them does Mt Elbrus noises intensify

0:15 What does a painting by a Dutch painter do on the Italian side?

Why don't we solve it once and for all federating Italy and France? We two, together, would be the biggest economy in Europe, we have the finest productions, basically we'd have everything, even geopolitically speaking and culturally we are not so different after all.

@gringologie9302

Жыл бұрын

No thanks.

@giovbrutus5794

Жыл бұрын

Cu caz

@fanofcodd

Жыл бұрын

North Italy can't even get along south Italy sometimes , so it would be a problem. Even if for what I know , northern Italy could be a part of France with no problem

@NoName-hg6cc

Жыл бұрын

@@fanofcodd As much as France have problems with their South. Who would fit in Italy quite well though

@nosferatus777

8 ай бұрын

@@fanofcodd Dream about it petit zemmour !!

Mont blanc is the name we also taken over to give that mountain because us dutch heavily influenced by france maybe for balcan nations that closer and influenced by italy its monte blanco

@GB-ko8cv

Жыл бұрын

*monte bianco

Okay why is it that tons of people DONT see Mt. Elbrus as the highest mountain in Europe.

Ahahah EU4 prestige medals ! well done, it's a very good video and is quite interesting !

This man knows how to start a war in the comments

9:08 the English, ofcourse

Norway and Sweden worked out a good solution where we have mountains meet at the border. Whichever the rainwater landed and flowed west was Norway and whichever the rainwater landed and flowed east was Sweden. For the most part, atleast a good portion of our southern borders

@milasudril

11 ай бұрын

Though Sweden should have half of Galdhøpiggen, following this logic.

@thor.halsli

11 ай бұрын

@@milasudril It goes without saying anything where norwegians live is Norway and where swedes lives is Sweden lol. The borders in question where this was implemented was obviously in between where the two peoples lived hundreds of years ago

@milasudril

11 ай бұрын

@@thor.halsli Who ever lives between Klarälven and Sognefjorden. But yes, there are a few villages in the valleys.

sidenote that Valle d'Aoste is the highest AOC/DOC/designated wine region in Europe