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@frostyalaska6371

2 жыл бұрын

Should do a report on CMU prisons here in the US. People are charged with sedition against the state and are put in solitary confinement without ever being brought infront of a jury and are instead charged by military tribunals. Literally a way to silence potential political enemies.

@littledudefromacrossthestr5755

2 жыл бұрын

@@frostyalaska6371 huh?

@frostyalaska6371

2 жыл бұрын

@@littledudefromacrossthestr5755 look up CMU prisons Ted talk it’s disgusting way more of an issue than gauntanomo

@littledudefromacrossthestr5755

2 жыл бұрын

@@frostyalaska6371 ok! Ty

@My2CentsYall

2 жыл бұрын

OBAMA tried to close it but they would not let him do it so it remains open.

When the US do it, it's an unfortunate situation. When other countries do it, it's a human right violation.

@duyguozkann

2 жыл бұрын

THIS

@MrJasa89

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewcollins6954 nope

@umaryusuf537

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewcollins6954 what? That’s not even true

@jonahalkana5195

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewcollins6954 average republican

@turqutopia

2 жыл бұрын

Let's not forget about their bestie israel ..... over there everyday is a human rights violation day

Dan Fried might be my favourite interview Vox has ever done for a video. "Once you start them outside the rule of law, bringing them in the rule of law's a lot trickier than you think. Don't throw out the rulebook in a fit of passion. You'll regret it."

@ComputerCurry

2 жыл бұрын

I liked his thoughts on the situation.

@priyanshu3182

2 жыл бұрын

What did he exactly mean by regret?

@xCM3Lx

2 жыл бұрын

@@priyanshu3182 Probably that the detainees will testify they were treated inhumanely and will be given lesser punishment than deserved (possibly even set free) due to cruel and unusual punishment and/or unlawful imprisonment

@jakeave

2 жыл бұрын

the entire patriot act in a nutshell, and covid. We always panic in these once in a generation issues instead of making slight adjustments to the tried systems we already have in place.

@braxtonjones6163

2 жыл бұрын

@@xCM3Lx But some of them are actually terrorists.

We live in a world where you can openly be thrown into 20 years of torture and agony, without any proof or justification of wrong doing, by a "democractic","lawful" and "first world" country without anyone doing anything about it.

@RobertGames2030

Жыл бұрын

😰😰😰

@Youssouf_

Жыл бұрын

Sad world

@Gaylord69420

Жыл бұрын

Uh, they are literally terrorists are you daft lol

@johannesahrens7963

Жыл бұрын

Well the EU urged the US to close it thats pretty much all they can do but it's kinda the uss peoples fault if they keep electing republicans

@cz2301

Жыл бұрын

Nah, not democratic: republican

Every time you hear someone say “the government wouldn’t do that”… yes, yes they would.

@biggychugss6072

Жыл бұрын

bros tryin to be wendigoon ☠️☠️

@ryanwalker4660

3 ай бұрын

I don't think you know what you're talking about and should stay in your lane, but that's just me...

@s70driver2005

2 ай бұрын

Exactly!!!

The question should not be "Why did the US get away with it?", the question should be "Who is supposed to stop the US from doing so?".

@Gurumeierhans

2 жыл бұрын

The rest of the world. But money must go cha-ching

@centrist3684

2 жыл бұрын

When China does bad thing, US is suppose to, according to Reddit and Facebook. So...China is suppose to stop US?

@thefattesthagrid

2 жыл бұрын

@@centrist3684 That must've felt weird while typing, eh?

@Gurumeierhans

2 жыл бұрын

@@centrist3684 would be cool, yeah. or the whole civilized world

@alexs1640

2 жыл бұрын

The American people are supposed to stop the US. But we just had 70 million people vote for a pathological liar with authoritarian beliefs, so good luck getting them to do anything constructive

recently watched The Mauritanian and there was a line that kinda struck me. Guantamo Bay is in Cuba not because it only puts the prisoners outside of US jurisdiction, it also protects the jailers from prosecution

@BeachSamuraiStudios

2 жыл бұрын

Dont do the crime if you cant do the time....

@tracesprite6078

2 жыл бұрын

@@BeachSamuraiStudios many of the prisoners did absolutely nothing. They just got randomly arrested because a poor person wanted to collect a large reward.

@jamesz9635

2 жыл бұрын

@@BeachSamuraiStudios you literally missed the point of the whole video. if they actually did the crime then the US wouldn't have gone so far out of their way to avoid putting them on trial

@TheEroticDonkey

2 жыл бұрын

🎣

@jayanthsriranga1403

2 жыл бұрын

@@BeachSamuraiStudios classic troll

It really goes to show that if you’re a superpower, human rights law doesn’t apply. You codify it then forget about it until you need to use it against someone else. Law is supposed to be a set of guidelines you look at before you do something potentially illegal, not after. I pity the poor lawyers who the US forced to back this absolutely inhumane process. And if they somehow believed this was legal, they needed a couple more years in the law school oven. They weren’t fully baked yet.

@zuolat

Жыл бұрын

Ya like how in many underdeveloped or developing countries we cant have a death penalty for criminals or police cant shoot any person above their knees because "human right violation" But hey US can do anything..

@staymadlollllll4786

Жыл бұрын

Shut up liberal

@ChorizoFungis

Жыл бұрын

Who cares, those people are terrorist, if they bombed your country you would do the same.

@davedave3520

Жыл бұрын

And yet they criticize our country for human rights violations

@user-th4rf8yl9v

11 ай бұрын

this is basic political science here, first 4, 6,78, and 14th amendments if you want to arrest someone youneed a warrant if you want a warrant youneed suspicious cause, and you cannot sit people in jail without being tried first this is basic politicalscience

truly heartbreaking and disgusting to hear about a government that for 20 years committed straight human rights abuses and war crimes every day on foreign soil. . . and they tout themselves as a paragon of freedom and other lies.

@lil.bad21

11 ай бұрын

your country would've asked the us for the same thing to happen if you had terrorist attack such as 9/11

@CHUMP-CHANGE

4 ай бұрын

This base on cuba was converted into an even stricter facility in 2001. The US has been using this base since the 1970s (former name is "Camp X" I think). If you play games, I would highly recommend "metal gear solid: Ground Zeros". The game is set in 1972 (?) and you infiltrate US camp "omega" located in Cuba.

@CHUMP-CHANGE

4 ай бұрын

@@lil.bad21 Lol no. The US has has this camp since the 1970s. "Camp X" was the former name unless I am mistaken. Before 2001, it was mostly used as a barely-humane open air jail for people seeking asylum from nearby countries such as Hati.

The frustration in Dan’s face perfectly represents the entire world’s emotions towards the entire Guantanamo Bay «experiment».

@andreparra9241

2 жыл бұрын

towards the entire way the US operates its political game*

@DavidRamseyIII

2 жыл бұрын

Most of the world doesn’t care about Guantanamo Bay. I’m Australian and I say, the American government can do whatever they think is best

@thunderbolt4451

2 жыл бұрын

@@DavidRamseyIII so u guys have the right to experiment on others?.......reminds me of an austrian painter who wanted to make Germany great again

@bigpeenerpeen

2 жыл бұрын

@@thunderbolt4451 when they’re terrorists who cares?

@DavidRamseyIII

2 жыл бұрын

@@thunderbolt4451 there are bigger problems in the world than a terrorists right to a fair trial. I suggest we work on problems in the order of big to small

I'll never forget the time 60 Minutes did a report on Guantanamo back in 2013. They took footage from inside the facility-which at that point, the public had never seen before-and how all the detainees were making lots of noise when the reporters went by the bright red cell doors. The people who worked at the facility said that this was completely normal whenever they were on-duty. Whenever I think of Guantanamo, I always think of that report.

@yagaman6701

2 жыл бұрын

Is it available on youtube

@mello4392

2 жыл бұрын

@@yagaman6701 yes

@yagaman6701

2 жыл бұрын

@@mello4392 can you tell me where i can watch it

@forr35t

2 жыл бұрын

@@yagaman6701 youtube :)

@yagaman6701

2 жыл бұрын

@@forr35t i mean the channel

The fact that Bush and Cheney never faced consequences is one of biggest black marks on the US in recent decades. They both absolutely should be rotting in jail to this day.

@aycc-nbh7289

7 ай бұрын

I don’t know whether they would be rotting in jail at all, but I could imagine Congress impeaching and convicting them as a symbolic measure so that they can never hold political office again at some point in the future. If Trump was impeached even after he left office, it could happen to Bush and Cheney as well.

as someone who used to live on the naval base in gitmo, we used to see boats transporting people to the island with the prison. It makes me so angry and sad that this prison is still open and people are still being wrongly and unfairly held in this horrible prison.

@MichaelfromtheGraves

5 ай бұрын

The prison isn't on an island (unless you're considering all of Cuba the island)

@CHUMP-CHANGE

4 ай бұрын

@@MichaelfromtheGraves Yeah, if this guy was really living on a naval base, you would think he knew that gitmo has been around since the 1970s. Used to be called camp X unless I am mistaken.

@ryanwalker4660

3 ай бұрын

cool

I didn’t expect to enjoy hearing the perspective of a former employee as much as I did. Awful that all those politicians used these innocent ppl to push their own political agenda. Well done vox!

@konway17

2 жыл бұрын

I mean has the American government never not done that? lol

@GiacomodellaSvezia

2 жыл бұрын

Not all Gitmo prisoners are innocent, but to keep them for an indefinite time without any accusation is the most frightening violation of human rights (which the US acknowledged in 1948) imaginable. Nothing is scarier than a country with such might and such evil intentions. There is no valid excuse.

@bingoberra18

2 жыл бұрын

Innocent?

@schlechtgut8349

2 жыл бұрын

@@GiacomodellaSvezia yeah couldn't they just give some of them life sentences and that's it

@shadowblade5994

2 жыл бұрын

@@schlechtgut8349 yeah but what happend if they escape they should put max security

It seems like Mitch McConnell always threws a wrench into everything.

@nathanhails5901

2 жыл бұрын

I think we should throw Mitch and Donnie in there.

@LilDroidBlue

2 жыл бұрын

The wrench he throws in is himself, because he's a tool.

@Malcadon

2 жыл бұрын

Mitch McConnell is a literal cancer upon democracy. He *is* The Swamp!

@Malcadon

2 жыл бұрын

@@lucv2234 Yeah, he lacks that too. ;)

@MostlyPennyCat

2 жыл бұрын

@Account will be deleted on September 11th I dunno man, we get a lot more done here in the UK and the EU. For a start we only have one elected legislative body. All our judges are chosen by an independent panel. We do pretty well here, even if the Tories have not started adopting republican tactics

"Don't throw out the rulebook in a fit of passion." Words to live by.

Did a project of this in highschool, so much has happened since 2014, and that is wild.

I remember there was a prisoner there who compared his experience to Azkaban, saying the Harry Potter books they had in the library in Gitmo weren't so much an escape as a reminder of his situation

@grandnewton9887

2 жыл бұрын

It's modern day slavery! and you and your white people support it

@yvonneplant9434

2 жыл бұрын

The film Camp X-Ray sort of shows this.

@bubblingbubztheklown5902

2 жыл бұрын

Situation as a wizard?

@MikeDrew312

2 жыл бұрын

@@bubblingbubztheklown5902 correct..

@apollo1694

2 жыл бұрын

@@bubblingbubztheklown5902 Just like wizards, people in Guantanamo Bay can spontaneously cause explosions at will. Difference is that the wizards didn't blow the twin towers up.

Just imagine another country doing this with American citizens.

@DickCheneyXX

2 жыл бұрын

Incorrect analogy. We did not take citizens from major world powers, just third worlders. Imagine China doing this on a massive scale to their Islamic extremists. Oh wait, they are already doing it.

@vroomvroom4061

2 жыл бұрын

North Korea

@gregorygregory9837

2 жыл бұрын

China and Russia

@patrickmunro5379

2 жыл бұрын

@@gregorygregory9837 when did that happen?

@patrickmunro5379

2 жыл бұрын

@@Paonporteur „you are bot though“ ? And also, breaking laws or not, due process is being violated and everyone deserves due process.

Your videos are so WELL DONE!!!!

Your storytelling, both in language and visual. The best.

I "love" how speculation drives decisions.

@guynorth3277

2 жыл бұрын

That is exactly how the Republicans operate, it's all speculation, and they are gullible. Look at that Manchin character, deliberately turning down 'BBB' because he "speculated" all his folks would just use it for drugs, this fools is so outrageous!

@AyeBeeG

2 жыл бұрын

You’ll “love” the financial markets.

@livinthefilm

2 жыл бұрын

and fear.

@EmmaVB82

2 жыл бұрын

@@guynorth3277 Manchin is inexplicably a Democrat.

@guynorth3277

2 жыл бұрын

@@EmmaVB82; He is certainly out there somewhere, I cannot believe he blamed his constituents 'supposed' habits as a reason to turn things down too. Unbelievable!

When it comes to us prisons in Poland. The US broke European human rights laws. Which fell on Poland. And not on the US

@DAndyLord

2 жыл бұрын

Which is pretty smart, really evil, but pretty smart.

@irishlostboy

2 жыл бұрын

Well, doing deals with the devil tends to cost you your soul.

@miglemigle9575

2 жыл бұрын

The same thing happened in Lithuania too

@IkeOkerekeNews

2 жыл бұрын

@Marek W Source?

@IkeOkerekeNews

2 жыл бұрын

@@miglemigle9575 Source?

I love how this is universally overlooked. For good reason ❤

“Don’t throw out the rule book in a fit of passion. You’ll regret it” Something we and politicians all need to hear.

The irony of people in the senate saying "their dangerous ideology" in regards to the prisoners of Guantanamo.

@IkeOkerekeNews

2 жыл бұрын

@Cody Churchill What is so ironic about it? Are you saying that all senators are dangerous ideologues?

@sanders555

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, I thought the exact same thing.

@leolego2

2 жыл бұрын

@@Stevie-J - also want to keep people with no charges inside a prison for decades, breaking all internal and international laws, and not submit them to the court system because they have no actual proof. And additionally, letting Bush get the majority of these people out but not Obama because their agenda is more important than actual people

@genieglasslamp5028

2 жыл бұрын

@@Stevie-J Cant tell if your describing christain extremists here or Islamic extremists abroad. Please clarify

@sanders555

2 жыл бұрын

@@Stevie-J "Wants to keep taxes reasonable"? That's not even a real political policy. Maybe politicians should also run on reasonable foreign policy, reasonable regulations, reasonable criminal justice reform, and reasonable education. Because those aren't subjective or vague at all. What are you even going on about?

Yes US Hypocrisy at it's finest. We're the good guys. Who tf are you fooling? We pick and fight when we fight for human rights. When it benefits us.

@IRosamelia

2 жыл бұрын

Us? Don't you mean the military industrial complex instead? 🤔

@simmerke1111

2 жыл бұрын

They're fooling their voters who still believe Gitmo only held terrorists. Don't educate your people and they're easy to fool.

@axelfoley1406

2 жыл бұрын

Which is why Americans need to start boycotting the NBA.

@vinnieg6161

2 жыл бұрын

@@IRosamelia it's actually the people that keep supporting our current system that are to blame. Without our support they would be powerless.

@theorangeheadedfella

2 жыл бұрын

@@axelfoley1406 what does some sport thing have to do with this

The US people elect the US Government, yet somehow, the US people are never to blame; only their Government

@felixroux

Жыл бұрын

...Because there are only so many choices that the public can make in regards to politics. There's pretty much only two choices when it comes to the president, and a lot of the time they're both not ideal. It's the politicians who have the final say; they are mostly to blame.

@zuheyrcade6239

10 ай бұрын

@@felixroux no,no . If the people are those who have chosen them why they can't say we don't want this country to be ruled by only two parties but more than two 4,5 or even 20 . That's challenging but when two persons are always those who rule the country they can get along to do anything they want whenever anyone of them comes to power ,because there's no other one.

@aycc-nbh7289

7 ай бұрын

@@zuheyrcade6239The issue there is that casting a vote for a minor party would only take votes away from one of the major parties and give them to another major party. I may like for it to be a requirement for states to abolish closed primaries so that the voices of the people rather than party establishments are represented at the polls, even if it doesn’t completely abolish the two-party system.

first episode of VOX I've watched in a couple years and I forgot how great it is.

Well done video. And kudos to those who did the graphics, especially those involving the prison itself, brilliantly visualized the story being told.

@claudiasanchez8996

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I would’ve been so confused without the graphics

This is what happens when a country become supremely powerful over the others. They could take you and me, label us as terrorist and a threat to the people and impression us. And no one would have the right to question their decision.

@user-tl7qx1xf3d

2 жыл бұрын

exactly

@UnstoppableEmpire

2 жыл бұрын

🖤 ❤️ 🇦🇫 🇵🇰 🤍 💚 Stay strong

@Nihilist_Porcupine

2 жыл бұрын

Don't worry, we do it to our own citizens too.

@user-tl7qx1xf3d

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nihilist_Porcupine no you dont, u dont do to ur own citizens wat u did to these innocent people, not even close. US prison systems are disneyland compared to guatanamo

@trendhouse6799

2 жыл бұрын

Well, it's a good thing US power is declining then. They won't be able to get away with these things in the future so easily.

"Don't throw out the rulebook in a fit of passion. You'll regret it. We did" - that's an intense and gripping statement!

Legit everyone except the US wants Guantanamo to close

It has been the greatest sadness of my life, falling out of love with my country and realizing everything I was taught about who we are and what we stand for, was a bold faced lie. It’s a sort of shame nothing will ever be able to wash away.

@elirifai3690

2 жыл бұрын

It’s a shame you may never be able to wash away, but why not make it a great pleasure to work and make a country you love too. History is still being written. Make it great

@AD-ui6sk

2 жыл бұрын

What country hasn’t performed evil acts

@davidalmeida2991

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not about countries and its people, it’s about the leadership and lawmakers that should but actually don’t represent the will of the People.

@davidalmeida2991

2 жыл бұрын

@@AD-ui6sk that’s a lazy and weak excuse. Just whataboutism, nothing more. If you’re not able to shame your leaders for their wrong doing you will never improve your country

@beyourself7428

2 жыл бұрын

@@elirifai3690 Hate to point this out, but the exact same can be said about Russia, China, and North Korea. There's only so much one can do, in the face of a f-ed up system.

I've seen interviews with ex-convicts of guantanamo, he went to prison without any charges, he was tortured every day, after his release he was mentally and physically disabled.

@Khayran

2 жыл бұрын

That's such a sad thing 😔

@dowoomsday

2 жыл бұрын

@@italianstalian331 proof ?

@krypticunlimited6925

Жыл бұрын

@@SilverLakeKingdom good. Every innocent person in Guantanamo or any of America's torture houses for that matter deserves that and more

@Tribuneoftheplebs

Жыл бұрын

@@SilverLakeKingdom I met Omar Khadr lawyer Dennis Edney when I was in high school. He came and spoke to us about Omar's case. Great man that worked free of charge to help Omar

@Tribuneoftheplebs

Жыл бұрын

@brotinger_1 he was 15 and a Canadian citizen. Even if he was guilty gitmo is not the place for a Canadian child

Anyone transferred back to their home country or another without a conviction should be monetarily compensated, heavily. Anyone who has not been convicted yet nor any evidence of any crime being committed should also be released and compensated. If there is a good case against them they need to be tried in court first. If convicted there should be a prison on American soil for the sole purpose of organized terrorist members. And they should still be treated humanely. Guantanamo needs to close

@simondahl5437

Жыл бұрын

Guam is not Guantanamo.

Vox makes documentaries on random topics so interesting. Appreciate the hard work. 👍👍👍

this was so well made

@maillardsbearcat

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder how much the budget is for one video

@sickomode6440

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

@jinluvr

2 жыл бұрын

@@maillardsbearcat For real. The fact that we get to see it for free blows my mind even more

Could we take a moment to process the fact that Dan Fried states that "we didn't know what to do with them and so they ended up in Guantanamo"?

@aaroncabatingan5238

Жыл бұрын

Guantanamo is just one big holding cell for terrorists and alleged terrorists. The US doesn't care, the American people doesn't care, most non-Americans don't care, why should anyone care about those people?

Sam’s use of Mapbox is awe-inspiring.

Legally it can't be closed. It has been quadrupled in size, at least. Many more courts to handle the incoming and put in a state of the art hospital as well. We have been using it all along and the court trial have been swift as has the punishments.

To some US law doesn’t apply. Geneva Conventions do not apply. Yet, to others International laws apply.

@phillipsalvadorlee188

2 жыл бұрын

I agree US trying to circumvent international laws and create their own eventually comes back to bite them.

@AbhishekSharma-vf8vd

2 жыл бұрын

Example , US doesn't ratify UNCLOS but asks China to stay away from South China sea according to laws of UNCLOS.

@GigaChadlovesandcares

2 жыл бұрын

@@primalconvoy It was nothing similar to this, it was temporary detention buildings for quick interrogations. They were located in east Europe and in some Asian countries, nothing more to say. These weren’t permanent buldings, once the suspects were interrogated everyone packed their bags and left.

@williamsherman1942

2 жыл бұрын

@@primalconvoy Comparing Gitmo to those detention centers is like comparing a American prison to a Finish one, lol.

When they say 'hardened criminals', has this been proved in a court of law? Just curious

@vedantbhalla2571

2 жыл бұрын

Probably not, but this was most likely people who were proved to be involved in terrorist attacks etc. during interrogation or they were tagged by the US as criminals before

@royhuang9715

2 жыл бұрын

Most are not, a few maybe. Court of law doesn’t treat “evidence” obtained from torture as real evidence.

@nromk

2 жыл бұрын

Well I don't think any court can proof that someone is a hardened criminal: what courts do is try to establish if someone is guilty of a crime or misdemeanor or violation established or miscuduct in law: in this it would a possibility of conspiracy, murder, fraud, money laundering possible terror acts etc

@mankytoes

2 жыл бұрын

Same with stating these guys are "9/11 plotters"- but they've been unable to legally prove it and get a conviction in ten years? Should be "alleged" plotters.

@a.mallah9282

2 жыл бұрын

@@vedantbhalla2571 "under interrogation" i wonder how many gave false confessions under duress due to the nature of these "interrogations"

this video completely skipps the part of how the prisoners were treated

Col Jessup : Get me the President on the phone. We're surrendering our position in Cuba! Tom : Yes, sir

Please make more Atlas videos. There is nothing against the other videos that Vox puts out but I feel like this is one of the most informative and aesthetically pleasing series of videos from anywhere. Please make videos more often and much longer in length because these videos help break down the conflicts and situations that otherwise have been difficult to understand from the outside on a superficial level. Really love the music to the visuals, I feel like everything is nailed down really well. I used to love Borders a lot but with Atlas, it really has taken my interest and just made me drawn into the world around me and it has helped me understand the perspectives, needs, wants, impasses of both sides.

USA: We are the freest and fairest country in the world. Also USA: Guantanamo.

@muhdhaziqhaiqal6805

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah 😂

@sinoroman

2 жыл бұрын

everything is just a slogan in america

@nad1ax2

2 жыл бұрын

That’s why they had to set up the facility outside of the US where the US rule of law couldn’t apply

@LucielStarz123

2 жыл бұрын

Without Guantanamo where would other European countries definitely shove a few of their problems there?

@Marcelg13

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it would be better if you give these Terrorists a Home.

Great video

This is the part of America history that I am ashamed of... people should go to prison for what was done there...

USA: it's not a warcrime it's combat unlawfulness.

@davidturner4076

2 жыл бұрын

Terrorists don't deserve rights.

@brumach527

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidturner4076 And who gets to decide which people are terrorists? Hope they are on your side...

@WinWall3227

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidturner4076 so who are terrorist?

@shaunsteele8244

2 жыл бұрын

no such thing as "war crimes", war is by definition lawlessness. Why do we believe in sanctioned killing?

@MrBassmann15

2 жыл бұрын

@@shaunsteele8244 It's part of our dwmcratic principles who make us who we are. It's also an attempt to hold people accountable who do terrible things like genocide in an attempt to deter them from happening.

Never knew these so-called "Black Sites", must've been painful.

@rolfs2165

2 жыл бұрын

I remember hearing about them as far back as 2006, when Murat Kurnaz was released from Guantanamo. It was quite a big story in Germany.

@EmelyPhan

2 жыл бұрын

I knew/heard about them through a tv show (Blindspot) when I watched it on Netflix.

@miglemigle9575

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, I've been living less than 10 km away from one and only just found out

@11energize

2 жыл бұрын

No need to speak in past tense, they still exist.

@edforres1984

2 жыл бұрын

Look up “Tim Dillion black sites” and the first video should be him giving an explanation in a comedic way

i'd love to go for a visit some day!

The story of this prison is the prime example of blind rage.

Could you do a video on unlawful solitary confinement in the American prison system? It's possible that there are human rights violations there on a very large scale.

@CHUMP-CHANGE

4 ай бұрын

We have multiple similar camps all along the southern border for migrants. gitmo has been around since the 1970s, former name "Camp X" unless I am mistaken. I would suggest watching videos from the Camp X era, you can find them on youtube. If you play games, I would highly recommend "metal gear solid: Ground Zeros". The game is set in 1972 (?) and you infiltrate US camp "omega" located in Cuba.

So it's basically kidnapping.

@Pseudynom

2 жыл бұрын

And torturing.

@55Tonythetigar

2 жыл бұрын

@@Pseudynom for good reason though.

@Pseudynom

2 жыл бұрын

@@55Tonythetigar Because the USA is the bully of the world.

@royhuang9715

2 жыл бұрын

@@55Tonythetigar kidnapping for money must also be a good reason for you?

@BeraubtWerden

2 жыл бұрын

@@55Tonythetigar ah yes, but when china use "re education" Word it's bad

When your the most powerful civilization in history you can make your own rules.

Your research is correct, I've read a book that also said the same.

The fact that we get free documentaries on KZread by Vox is truly a gift 👍👍👍

@Parras...

2 жыл бұрын

@Roon shut

@Parras...

2 жыл бұрын

@Roon there amazing for the price of free

@Parras...

2 жыл бұрын

@Roon 👎

@potatoeskimos

2 жыл бұрын

It’s free because it is an indoctrination program.

@erictheviking

2 жыл бұрын

Vox is a far left media site. You're the product

Gitmo, Abu Gharib, and the War on Terror were a huge boost to recruiting. It made it that much easier.

Like, I don't want to take away from all the experts and so on but I really think that this isn't really as complicated as some people think it is. If the government wants to do something that breaks their own laws they can just do it. Nobody is going to stop them. The only real reason they don't is because they might be worried about public opinion.

@CHUMP-CHANGE

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, people don't know that this place has been run by the US in cuba since the 1970s. I think it was named "Camp X" before they changed it. Anyone who plays games and is interested in this topic should play "Metal gear solid: ground zeros" set at US military base "Camp omega" located in Cuba in 1972 (?).

It's a nice place to be I lived there stationed at the BOQ. LIVED AND WORKED THERE. FOR A SOLID YEAR. 80-81 JUNE.

This is a really great intro to the issue and where we currently are - good job vox!

Had this been a Russia-run prison everyone in American politics would be up in arms and protesting. LOVE VOX AND THEIR WORK.

@lesgo791

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly what i was thinking. BW love your channel you are so underrated.

@sinoroman

2 жыл бұрын

nowadays, protests in america don't last long, people eventually give up

@Juan-mj3bm

2 жыл бұрын

Right let Russia take Ukraine who are we to stop them

@amariigavriel

2 жыл бұрын

the rest of the world probably also will "strongly condemn" it too

@SimonSwooner

2 жыл бұрын

@@Juan-mj3bm Right let the us invade and escelate the situation even more

Great visuals.

Wow I had no clue. This was quite informative but I gather many politicians aren't aware of how bad this really is.

Admirable maze of bureaucracy you have there. Utterly unpassable, because entry should have been similarly impossible but wasn't.

We cannot be a nation that vociferously espouses the rule of law and the virtue of justice while picking and choosing what laws are convenient and when to apply them. How do we go to other nations and judge them to be unjust when we so glaringly sidestep our own legal system? Some of those men imprisoned, upon due process and a thorough evaluation of the evidence, might be guilty of terrible crimes or have intended to commit heinous crimes. However, they were brought into US custody - the circumstances of some of those arrests/captures being suspect themselves - and once they are in our hands, they are subject to all the protections National and International laws provide. Taking the high road is not easy, nor is it a guarantee of outright safety, but it is a the path we Must take if we are to live by the ideals we hold so ardently hold at the core of our nation.

@Random17Game

2 жыл бұрын

acctually yes you can (non american saying)

@hanzalaomar9915

2 жыл бұрын

US and Justice 😂😂😂

@aycc-nbh7289

7 ай бұрын

No country is perfect, but some countries are worse than others.

Thank u Vox

This video is a long version of answer the question with.. "it depends" 😂 but the map is impressive. Making the analysis business like

Don't throw the rulebook in a fit of passion you'll regret it. Yes they did. A masterpiece line

@fabio.lous_

2 жыл бұрын

Right?? I had to go back for that one

@saad-bc1by

2 жыл бұрын

When did they regret it

@prapanthebachelorette6803

2 жыл бұрын

Hope people learn

everyone deserves a fair trial, no exceptions.

@creator-link

2 жыл бұрын

@@momartyr probably not

@Crusader677

2 жыл бұрын

@@momartyr the prisoners are not in a warzone.

@Entername-md1ev

2 жыл бұрын

These guys are terrorists they deserve torture! Don’t let anti American sentiment let you start defending global terrorists

@idkwhatnametochoose6197

2 жыл бұрын

@@Entername-md1ev most of these people have little evidence that there hardened criminals, some of them are definitely, but a lot of them have little evidence.

@nathan-ls8yw

2 жыл бұрын

you clearly have never Interacted or let alone met a terrorist or haji fighter have you? some of them deserve to take a dirt nap six feet under.

I remember a while ago I saw the movie "The Mauritanian", which was about a man that was wrongly accused and imprisoned. By far the most disturbing film I've ever seen.

The more I grow up,the more I find out dark secrets about the US

We all condemn the atrocities committed against humans in backward countries, but what about the violence we cause through law? These men in their clean clothes and air-conditioned offices make decisions on whims that cause so much suffering ☹️

@shinichi6235

2 жыл бұрын

Baby

@AV-db5fb

2 жыл бұрын

@@shinichi6235 exactly 💯

“Waterboarding at Guantanamo Bay” sounds like a really rad thing to do on a spring break until you realize what it is

That picture of all the prisoners kneeling down with their faces covered… Which of them are innocent…? Which of them are falsely accused…? Heartbreaking…

Why have i not heard about this before?

It should also be noted that former detainees transferred to 3rd party countries didn't have better living conditions, especially when negotiation agreements meant that the the 3rd party countries accepting the former detainees(usually for monetary compensation) were responsible for their future actions. This has led to them usually living in countries that doesn't coincide with their cultural and religious upbringings, constant policing of their every movement for potential criminal behavior, residing in harsh climate or living conditions, limited to no access to basic healthcare and being continents away from their loved ones (both by geo location and limited correspondences, in some cases). You can find more documentaries online about such experiences like Vice's Life After Guantanamo: Exiled In Kazakhstan.

@CHUMP-CHANGE

4 ай бұрын

Many people dont know the US was running this camp in Cuba since the 1970s. "Camp X" was the former name unless I am mistaken. If you play games, I would highly recommend "metal gear solid: Ground Zeros". The game is set in 1972 (?) and you infiltrate US camp "omega" located in Cuba.

US: “Thanks for renting us this land.” Cuba: “We are not renting it to you.” US: “Thanks for renting us this land. Here is your payment.”

@williamsherman1942

2 жыл бұрын

Cuba took the check then, and we accepted it. It’s our land, we fought for it and paid for it. Doesn’t matter that Cuba once used to have it, it’s America’s soil now. Same with the used to be native Americans,

@dotacow22

Жыл бұрын

@@williamsherman1942 right of conquest is still a thing in 2022? Didnt know that

@your_-_mom

Жыл бұрын

@@dotacow22 we didn’t take the land in 2022 though?

@impyrobot

Жыл бұрын

@@dotacow22 right of conquest is and always will be a thing as long as humanity lives

So we’re just going to ignore the fact that’s it’s in an illegally occupied part of Cuba.

Freedom and Democracy 🦅🦅🦅

The USA is not a free and fair country when something like this exists

@emrefifty5281

2 жыл бұрын

It never was

@Affluent-Ghetto-Blackman

2 жыл бұрын

It’s only free and fair for people who can afford it.

@FindecanorNotGmail

2 жыл бұрын

The degree of civilisation in a society can be judged by entering its prisons. -- Fyodor Dostoevsky

@Entername-md1ev

2 жыл бұрын

Why? These guys are terrorists

@shorthopdoublelasers4168

2 жыл бұрын

@@Entername-md1ev Based on what evidence? Do you have the documentation that proves that they're all terrorists? C'mon now

Thank you for the excellent report and analysis.

Should've learnt the "eliminate first and conviction later" strategy

Just imagine the rage building up behind those walls especially for those innocent

For anyone interested in this, very good-quality movies are The Mauritanian and Zero Dark Thirty, both set from different view points, both based on true stories

@tylerbhumphries

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the recommendations. My job let me know we’re going to be out for the rest of the week because of the snow/ice storm. You just gave me something to watch.

@marlonmoncrieffe0728

2 жыл бұрын

Also 'Camp X-Ray' (2014) starring Kristen Stewart as a Guantanamo Bay army prison guard.

Dubya's always got that look on his face like he's about to yell "psych!!!"

George bush telling that now they acquire cells had me dieting🤣🤣😂🤣

The shadow effect on the graphics is 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼💯

I don't like the time of Weapons of Mass Destruction, Patriot Act and war.

@offchance789

2 жыл бұрын

2 forever wars, resurgent extremism around the globe _"Mission Accomplished"_

@rowstone3019

2 жыл бұрын

@@offchance789 Your right. Yemen is still a total war zone. I'm not sure about Ethiopia.

@user-tl7qx1xf3d

2 жыл бұрын

@@offchance789 afghanistan invasion and iraq invasion made that area unstable

@carson2913

2 жыл бұрын

"weapons of mass destruction" loool it's all a lie!

@rowstone3019

2 жыл бұрын

@Zaydan Naufal It was a bad time. It doesn't matter who is in office. The government lies to us.

Feels like a situation with no clear answer and both sides of the aisle have clear and logic arguments

This disrespect of human life is sickening.

great vid. very interesting as a kid to see the world like this.

I'm non American. Never heard about this prison. Really surprised to see there's an active, legal, Holocaust level prison/torture/experimentation camp operated by the US. Edit: I always knew the US had a lot of dark side. I just didn't expect it to be this dark.

@danielgiron6

2 жыл бұрын

The worst part of this is that Cuban people and government have been protesting that they dont want the prison there since decades, but what can they do against the US.

@11energize

2 жыл бұрын

@@danielgiron6 Yep, imagine an illegal torture camp is on your soil and you do everything you can to get it removed but you can't. Must be a weird feeling for them

@tracesprite6078

2 жыл бұрын

The book "Don't forget us here" is shocking but interesting.

@friendlyneighborhoodcrusad4242

2 жыл бұрын

11energize Legal torture camp*

@friendlyneighborhoodcrusad4242

2 жыл бұрын

They made it legal, what it is is immoral and inhumane.

Why all this claptrap? The whole thing was and is a war crime. None of them should've been there and none should be there now. Those who put them there or had anything to do with it or their torture should be prosecuted and punished. No lie or doubletalk can excuse it. This video shouldn't be more than two minutes long.

Imagine escaping China to avoid persecution just to get arrested and tossed in Cuba lol

Terrorists were brutal but this action that keeping these people here without any trial is also too brutal and inhuman.

@davidturner4076

2 жыл бұрын

Terrorists don't deserve human rights.

@skindianu

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidturner4076 be careful what you wish for. Most of the terrorists I know of aren't foreign.

@imperialpilot2164

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine being sympathetic towards terrorist

@studioromanski

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidturner4076 are u a spam bot?

@davidturner4076

2 жыл бұрын

@@studioromanski no, I just enjoy saying facts.

"Meet the new president, same as the old president."

@wilklablacquit

2 жыл бұрын

Elections are only for people's entertainment in USA, so people can feel they're actually having part in country's decision making. USA also have perfected art of public opinion manipulation so your desires are not even yours. And always same some external threat, war (just like in 1984).

@masterspark9880

Жыл бұрын

Obama ordered it to be shut down on his second day in office. Only president I respect

@jd7634

Жыл бұрын

@Wayne Green I said INTERNATIONAL law, not US laws.

@MrTriple3D

Жыл бұрын

@@masterspark9880 also bombed innocents.

@aycc-nbh7289

7 ай бұрын

Are you sure about this? Wilson ran on the platform of “He kept us out of war”, Nixon ran on a platform of pulling US troops out of Vietnam, and Obama and Biden seem as though they are more aggressive towards countries like China and North Korea than Trump would like to believe.

"Once you start them outside the rule of law, bringing them in the rule of law's a lot trickier than you think. Don't throw out the rulebook in a fit of passion. You'll regret it."

I’m surprised this hasn’t been taken down