Funny considering Nike's history really started when Knight's partnership soured with Onitsuka, and they ripped off the Tiger with the Cortez

@EncyclopediaSneakerica

6 ай бұрын

Preach. I also wonder how Nike ever got away with air cushioning because Karhu introduced it before the Swoosh. Nike didn’t believe in their properties enough to protect them prior to Bape - That’s kinda telling too. ✌🏽💙👟

@NachoAverageFinds

6 ай бұрын

That's partly true yeah. It was Bill Bowerman who improved the tiger though.

@EncyclopediaSneakerica

6 ай бұрын

@@NachoAverageFinds you’re too generous. Bowerman, himself, said he “borrowed” from the two best Onitsuka shoes to “improve” the original Cortez. Knight brokered the distribution deal. He’s more than 50% guilty of taking advantage of the situation although he claims he only did it because Onitsuka was a bad supplier. I guess it’s easier to criticize when you’re not the creative genius. ✌🏽💙👟

@caseysmith544

6 ай бұрын

Both got to have a same shoe, Onitsuka, now Asics was planning to release a shoe like this with name Cortez, the then brand new Nike was making own shoes like the Nike Moon Waffle, Moon Waffle spike, a more basic Nike all around sport cleat, and a crappy older low top version of the Nike Rebound was asked about selling the shoes via Knight and Bowerman and Bowerman told them no as they and went first with the shoe stealing the name idea as well, then Onitsuka, now Asics had its shoe they tried to make but Nike tried to sue to prevent Onitsuka, now Asics from selling its model of shoe and when it was found that Nike had stolen the design, they came up with a compromise Nike got the Name and Onitsuka, now Asics they got to keep making its pairs under a new name as then Onitsuka, now Asics changed shoe name just enough to Corsair. This Cortez was also the first model sold in USA/North America that was not sold though Phil Knights first company, Blue ribbon Sports they had yet to change the name officially of the company to Nike.

@klovor

6 ай бұрын

@@EncyclopediaSneakericanike bought air from a NASA engineer it was originally offered to adidas.

Nike getting 500 patents a year is honestly scary. How many different ways can you make a damn shoe. They bout to gobble up everyone left

I don't really understand a lawsuit against customized sneakers. It's like trying to prevent that someone makes a profit on modding cars.

@NachoAverageFinds

6 ай бұрын

I agree

@StuartKnox

6 ай бұрын

but actually that “customized sneaker” are making money for selling them, that are not just “customized” anymore, just literally copying, and ugly ain’t gon lie

@miklospinter

6 ай бұрын

​@@StuartKnox No, I'm talking about #9. If I understood correctly, they bought a bunch of AF1s and customized them. So they actually had to purchase the shoes from Nike in the first place... Then why does it bother Nike what they do with them? Of course, if they would turn them into something offensive or so (like the one with the blood), then I understand... But painting butterflies on them?

@AlanNoMoney

6 ай бұрын

Ferrari does this

@hellhound9351

6 ай бұрын

They are doing what ferrari is doing

I always wondered why while Warren Lotas and others were getting sued by Nike, Bape sat unscathed. Sure they finally got sued later but I was always curious why Nike let the Bapesta slide for over 10 years. Cuz they were the first to do it on a big scale? Cuz they were big brand already? I’m not sure.

@NachoAverageFinds

6 ай бұрын

Yeah they were massive. I always wondered too.

@lunoville

6 ай бұрын

The info I know was Bape took advatage of the expiring design registrations of Nike in Japan when creating Bapesta

@ice8erg

6 ай бұрын

20 years. Tf u been !?

The only foul suit is against Lululemon. A lot of brands use some kind of flyknit, I believe it's unfair to trademark it.

@NachoAverageFinds

6 ай бұрын

Fr

This man said "now nike is a socially responsible company" that's crazy 🤣🤣

@joeybaseball7352

6 ай бұрын

That's that nike PR machine for you. Nike is as socially responsible as an oil rig is to the ocean.

@Sabundy

2 ай бұрын

I was thinking the exact same thing 😂😂😂

Man I seriously love your videos. They’re very low key and chill but I can tell you still put a ton of effort into making them high quality and entertaining. Keep it up!

@NachoAverageFinds

6 ай бұрын

Thanks Kaden 🙏

Welcome back! I would love to see a video on the ACG line of the Y2K era (their vintage ACG Y2K jacket apparel rocks!) and the Alpha project that birthed the Kukini and the Presto spawing off of it too!

@kevincollins8620

6 ай бұрын

I love the Kukini. I grabbed a pair not long ago. Same with presto. Two of my favorite nikes!

Many of my neighbors back home work for Nike, Columbia, Adidas, and Under Armor. In 2016 Nike made the uniforms for Army team of the Army Navy game. They chose to honor the 82nd Airborne in the uniform design. As a former paratrooper of the 82nd Airborne Division I really wanted one of the jerseys since the mass produced version used my regiment’s logo. When my neighbor found out that I wanted one, he secured two for me and left them on my porch on my birthday in 2017. My neighbors always hooked me up with free gear or passes to purchase gear at employee stores. I’ll always rep my home brands.

Back in the early 2000s I bought several Bape sneakers based on the Air Max design. They also cloned the Converse Superstar and Chuck Taylor's. I think it just started out as a tongue in cheek brand, centered around the catch phrase A Bathing Ape, which referenced the lazy youth of Japanese society that took inspiration from American culture of lost youth, graffiti art, skate culture and hip hop. The brand was exclusive back then due to being worn by rappers and collabs with Kanye & Pharrell. They even copied American Express cards by offering green & gold membership cards in the Amex design.The cardholders were given exclusive rights to buy merchandise only available to members who had to be Japanese citizens which were verified by a Japanese address and bank account. Many American G.I's stationed in Yokohama or Okinawa who had Japanese girlfriends were able to buy the highly sought after clothes & sneakers that foreigners couldn't purchase. Nowadays Bape's glory days are far behind as rappers have stopped wearing the brand but they still heavily clone other brands including the Bapex watch which is a carbon copy of a cheap looking iced out Rolex.

@suppish

5 ай бұрын

Nice AI comment

Thanks for the upload amigo 👍 stay dry this weekend 🌧🌧

@NachoAverageFinds

6 ай бұрын

Appreciate it Tito!

Im suprised Nike doesn't sue Sketchers. They're ripping off most of Nike designs and even the colour ways.

@NachoAverageFinds

6 ай бұрын

They’ve sued them so many times haha it would be a whole video

I think I’m on the side of Nike, I mean I feel like the brands that take the silhouette and just add a different logo and heel tag text should be punished, it’s lazy honestly, like others don’t try to change anything truly. Now if the silhouette changed or the upper design was changed total then it would be fine, like a bapesta it’s the same silhouette as a AF1 but with and different upper design would be ok, but no it’s just lazy “customs”

@NachoAverageFinds

6 ай бұрын

I agree! Some of the brands are out of pocket by just changing the swoosh haha

The airmax at 0:20 all the way to the right are the n64. One of my faves!! I still need a pair.

I think Ari captured Nike perfectly when he created the menthol 10s tbh. "The 2 companies that have taken the most and given the least"

@kingfree3396

6 ай бұрын

I don't like or buy nikes but a company has no obligation to give anyone anything. You like a product you buy the product end of story

Nike have never been socially responsible, they fleece their customers, especially the poorest one's who made them what they are.

@pedrobarata5617

6 ай бұрын

Fr, they are just brainwashing people with their eco and inclusive marketing

@Slick1020

6 ай бұрын

You don't have to buy Nikes. Your complaint is MOOT and asinine in and of itself. You can wear Brooks, Asics, and a plethora of other shoes.

@equinox95

5 ай бұрын

@Slick1020 Sorry to break the bad news, I haven't bought any Nike shoe for year's. I only wear Adidas Originals or other brands now 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿.

@peterrobssss

3 ай бұрын

@@equinox95he wasn’t suggesting you specifically don’t have to buy the shoes 😭 he’s just saying no one is being forced to purchase their shoes

@Sabundy

2 ай бұрын

​@@Slick1020it's irrelevant about anyone having to buy Nike products. He simply pointed out that they have never been socially responsible. Which is very true.

I thought you were going to feature the recent suing of New Balance. To me that was a very breaking news. And I would like to learn more about it.

@NachoAverageFinds

6 ай бұрын

That news broke literally the day before I uploaded this

@eiyrie2990

6 ай бұрын

@@NachoAverageFinds Well guess you have got yourself a new project haha, I believeamy would really enjoy that including myself

I love Nike. But I also love Japanese culture, beyond streetwear. If you put a pair of Bapestas right next to pair of AF1s, the quality in the Bapestas are light years better. There’s just no competing with Japanese craftsmanship which is why I feel Nike is reluctant to proceed in trying to settle any lawsuits with Bape. In all honesty though, ever since Nigo’s departure from Bape, the quality and creativity in the products haven’t really appealed to me. His Human Made line is more in line with his (and my) more mature street style. I’ll leave Bape for the kids.

I worked at the dallas cowboys warehouse years ago and had to destroy product. They basically give you a giant blade and you cut it up till its unuseable..

@NachoAverageFinds

6 ай бұрын

Wow…

It's like this. ... You post?! I watch!!

@NachoAverageFinds

6 ай бұрын

Grateful for you Nicole

It's already happening here in the Philippines. Just like the thunderbolt. I hope they will come up with their own designs.

A nike ad popped up should i be scared?

Nike gonna sue us consumers for taking photos in Nikes now 😂

MiniDV ha! My home videos of the kids were on those. Only one place in the country that converts them to digital now, that I could find.

@NachoAverageFinds

6 ай бұрын

They were huge for the skateboarding world

Your next video should be about crocs (New subscriber can’t stop watching you❤❤)

@NachoAverageFinds

6 ай бұрын

Thank you man! I appreciate the love.

Nike is stretching with the 2nd story lol

@NachoAverageFinds

6 ай бұрын

They want all the power haha

Велич хорош, за одну ночь наснимал видосов на неделю 💪

Excellent content as always gentlemen.

Wow, "had a hell of a weekend" 😂😂😂

Nike is not only one of the best athletics brand but one of if not THEE greatest company of ALL TIME

“Another one.” I commented on this stuff many times in different places. Nike owes a lot to Karhu and Onitsuka. adidas and Converse created the look of modern Bball shoes. Nike came in and bought one of them out. Well played… despite my misgivings around the Karhu and Onitsuka rip-offs. Current events are comical to me. ✌🏽💙👟

@NachoAverageFinds

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the insights brodie

need more details

The AF1 is the default silhouette for sneakers

Interesting video you got here.

@NachoAverageFinds

6 ай бұрын

Thanks dude!

I have a couple Nike Air retro 90s high tops and a few polos. Otherwise after reading Kara Goucher’s book, The Longest Run and Nike covering up some awful stuff I’m never buying a Nike product again. I keep telling my daughters to quit buying Nike products.

They went pretty soft on these companies. They could have really destroyed them if they wanted to.

The MISCHIF lawsuit was warranted. And then some. What the H were those idiots thinking. I think most of these lawsuits are appropriate. Good video bro👍.

The shoes that I was waiting for you to mention are Ari Menthol 10s [AF1s] because Nike & Newport made sure to shut down those customs to be made again. 😂😂😂😂

@NachoAverageFinds

6 ай бұрын

Oh that’s a great topic for a whole video

i haven't worn the bape stars but honestly they look good cant deny

I hope you guys are okay. You are missed. You definitely made some of the best sneaker content on the internet.

Can you talk about the discontinuation of the Nike Cortez

@NachoAverageFinds

6 ай бұрын

I’d love to

@juanluis7310

6 ай бұрын

@@NachoAverageFinds Thanks brotha you’re the best 🙏 keep on dropping heat 🔥

I agree with each lawsuit

Now we want vid about recent lawsuit against adidas and NB.

@NachoAverageFinds

6 ай бұрын

That would be a doozy

@EncyclopediaSneakerica

6 ай бұрын

We wrote extensively about Nike lawsuits and include some of the adidas stuff. Nacho Average Finds is free to reference as a resource for any stories on the topic. ✌🏽💙👟

i got a nike ad before this... 🤣

I would like to know about Nike vs Panam

@NachoAverageFinds

6 ай бұрын

I would love to tell the story of Panam one day.

I wonder why Bape still NOT being cancelled and getting the hype despite crazy copying the Nike designs

@wildercerrate7295

6 ай бұрын

I mean IP infringement only feels bad when it’s a David vs Goliath story. Nikes one of the biggest companies in the world and some of their shoes feel like a whole “genre” like the AF1 or air Jordan. That’s why they get so many reiterations from different companies (like the marbolro cigarette af1s or Saint Laurent Jordan’s highs)

@pastense

6 ай бұрын

Because Japan lol. They just do everything better. If you put a pair of Bapestas right next to a pair of AF1s, the quality in the Bapestas are light years better.

I guess Nike is thinking if we are being held accountable for our actions we’re gonna expect that equally. Which is fair

How much bape go for they popping in my middle school day never knew they was japa

If not mistaken , nike also having lawsuit against sketchers

@NachoAverageFinds

2 ай бұрын

Yes! They’re constantly in lawsuits with them

Nike is responsible ? lol 😂 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I almost 💩 my pants!!!!!!

A lot of brands shoes were sued recently for claiming to use the same Flyknit material in the upper. This includes most brands using a strategic mesh upper that looks similar to the Flyknit pattern but often uses own materials not even close to the Flykint upper. The sueing covers some brands that use a similar technique to get the upper made but are a totally different material as well as a different upper pattern. I mean one of the dumber of these was claiming the ASCIS, formerly Onitsuka the upper on the DS Trainer 23 when that debuted last year was the same as the Flyknit upper on one of the Free models but this was found to be a different material though the weave was similar to the Nike the pattern was not becuse of some materials used on the toe section that are not like Flynkit upper. The other major suing was the Nike Ripstop upper that actually Nike is stopping suing for after Nike people found out the shoes upper was stolen from Adidas in the Adidas Bounce models when those first debuted in 2012, they determined only this from Nike suing is that both Nike and Adidas get to keep making their uppers so it was a waste of time.

@EncyclopediaSneakerica

6 ай бұрын

Nike was also unsuccessful trying to sue adidas for Primeknit. adidas first sued Nike in German courts and won because adidas has drawings that predate anything Nike has for records. adidas was unsuccessful in the U.S. because Flyknit is different enough to Primeknit for both to exist - and Nike changed its patent. Then, Nike tried to stop adidas making Primeknit and even suggested adidas owes royalties. Nike lost its knit lawsuits against adidas. it's refreshing to read many people are aware of these innovation fantasies coming out of Nike HQ. Nike marketing is incredible, and Nike makes good products. But Nike is nowhere near as innovative as its marketing machine would have us believe it is. ✌🏽💙👟

Keeping tags on the merch looks dumb to me (but I'm also old), especially when everyone leaves them on a hat that they're wearing. It just discolors the actual location of the tag (but again, I'm old 😂).

No matter what, Nike has rights.

@NachoAverageFinds

6 ай бұрын

Yeah and they will use them

I wonder if the Shoe Surgeon ever got in trouble?

@AaronBrunscheen

6 ай бұрын

He rebuilds individual sneakers bought from Nike, so it's considered an art piece or custom and not a knock-off. That's the reasoning Mache gave in an interview (FSR?).

@NachoAverageFinds

6 ай бұрын

Good question

@cheferikthurman

6 ай бұрын

His work is amazing. Cool guy I met him once.

@NachoAverageFinds

6 ай бұрын

Oh shoot Chef Erik!! Thanks for the love dude.@@cheferikthurman

@danielp121

6 ай бұрын

I don't think he'll be in trouble. Unless he's selling his CUSTOM MADE designs in big batches (like MSCHF did or other brands/people mentioned in this vid).

Nope, they released 666 shoes, not 606. Great vid!

It is so crazy to think some of these shoe designers just don't sign a contract with Nike to make their designs. That way everyone is happy and the shoes are official.

Why you never make video about adidas torsion zx 8000 from 90s this shoes are in europe a sensation special color aqua blue

As much as I have been a Nike customer since 1991 (more off than on), I am glad that my support of Nike and other major brands have slowly ended. I am getting more and more into barefoot shoes (drop zero heels, wide toe box, etc...).

Same reason they stopped doing the more almost indestructible better version of the Air Force 1 (Aka the Lunar Force 1): money

As a person frim Germany, I speek latin and feel kinda offended😂jk great vid keep it up

Nike tripping on these lawsuits

@NachoAverageFinds

6 ай бұрын

On some for sure

I did some work for them, and they were and are extremely strict about copyright, I won’t even say their name in this comment. The artwork I created for a runway show, I wasn’t allowed to post the photos of on my social media. You can tell what I did for them because all the swooshes had to be removed. I am not really mad about, just bummed because I can’t flex my portfolio pieces I did for them

Can't call someone a designer if they completely rip off a design that already exists.

I don’t understand if everyone is so creative, just come up with your own 😂😂

@gilbertlebacks2889

3 ай бұрын

Only if someone reinvent the whole wheel around those 3 basic silhouettes.🤔✌️🙏

Can I get the song list please? :')

Bro most of these companies got no creativity but idk why they wanna sue people that make custom shoes they bought the shoes it’s theirs

They only get mad when it’s a big company 🙄

Nike is right get ur own swag

Please do a video on how AND 1 and The Shaq brand get away with it. I’m sure of the brand actually. But it’s the knockoff’s at Wal-Mart I’m talking about. Do they have to pay Nike some kind of royalty?

@NachoAverageFinds

2 ай бұрын

That's a great idea Chad. I appreciate it brother. Thanks for peeping the other videos too. I see you!

This is why I sued that brand for stealing my concept designs that I had

Once a person buys shoes, those shose belong to the person to do whatever they want.

Omni?

they dont want competition

All I will say!!? If converse hightops actually performed? We would all be wearing them now, not historically.

bro i cant lie i deadass thought bapestas were a bape x nike collab

If you can’t beat them delete them.

Wtf I love nike but acting like the Ferrari of the sneaker industry is not cool

@justinc6962

6 ай бұрын

I mean, all these companies were profiting off their trademarked designs. Idk what you expect them to do

They right..they loosing billions on chinese copys..🤔

I'd never go after Ape, they are iconic for us back in the day. No one is getting rich of those shoes anymore. Just let them rest in peace and not sour our memories. Man I love those shadow grey apes.

the bape shoes were BLATANT copies...still nice doe

Just sue it 😭😭😭

Honestly, what would y'all do if someone was using something you made? In this type of situation of course.

Yaw not clicking the like button?🤔

calling nike socially conscious is just some next level naivety

Nike ripped off Newport Cigarettes with their logo.

The Nike vs Lululemon thing is funny. Nike definitely "borrowed" Lululemon-like materials for their athletic wear and copied the yoga-pant-like fits. If Lululemon makes shoes that look different but have a similar material, then Nike really has no case.

Well, they have patents. You need to protect your patents or it will be dismissed after 10 years. So Nike is suing everyone infiringing there design patents in order to keep there patents and make money of em.

*BAPSTA SHOULD'VE KNOWN BETTER* Nike n Disney Been Known To Sue Anybody

Nike Is sueing everyone but for a good reason they're constantly making knockoffs of their shoes 😭😭😭🙏

Damn this channel still exists 😂

@NachoAverageFinds

6 ай бұрын

Of course foo

@Mrfkurhothemnygowhereigo

6 ай бұрын

@@NachoAverageFinds it’s cause I’m not into shoes no more. I didn’t mean to come off as a dbag. 😂 Happy Holidays to you and big Nacho . And a Happy new year with more success your way

Because they can.

Nike needs to focus on making their shoes comfortable rather than cute.

I stopped buying Nike last year.

Nike is not suing me 😅

@NachoAverageFinds

6 ай бұрын

Careful 😆

@Mbewe_SM

6 ай бұрын

Send a link to your Reps lol.

Everyone copying AF1’s need to step their game up. Like cmon. 3 panels on the side profile. Toe box with identical ventilation. Shape. Sole. Stop it. If companies actually designed different shoes then maybe someone will actually hit with their own iconic design. For example, Shell Toe Adidas, Adidas Allstars, Converse. Like cmon yo, step it up.

On the side of children making fifty cents an hour.

@thomasdeas1941

5 ай бұрын

Child labor is another reason they are moving from China, because of backdraft.

Looks like Nike are in Their Ferrari Arc

Nike is the Ferrari of the sneaker community

Horrid taste with these pope air max

@NachoAverageFinds

6 ай бұрын

Yeah I agree it's too much

I’m gonna have to agree with Nike on this. These shoes are literally plagiarism of their products.