Maybe Mandarin studying dropped 50% in schools but increased 500% on internet as a self learning

@Luofeng222

20 күн бұрын

You're right

@daveg5088

20 күн бұрын

Have a citation? The only thing I found was that online has grown 3x what in-person has, but as in-person is slowing, this means little.

@yuun.yaang8

20 күн бұрын

Hi! I'm an online Chinese learner! Many of my friends have never attended actual classes, we have moved to the digital space and Chinese is still alive and well

@lowkatherine

19 күн бұрын

There are free lessons in KZread, why do it in University?

@fordhouse8b

19 күн бұрын

@@daveg5088 Why would he have a citation? He never made a claim, he said MAYBE. Maybe always also means maybe not.

I am Filipino and I want to learn Mandarin since I was a child. Just a personal interest, not political.

@havencat9337

13 күн бұрын

I'm from UK and also do the same, theres plenty of apps now to help

@thiagoluiz3859

11 күн бұрын

​@@havencat9337 can you recommend some for me, please? I had tried Duolingo before, but I didn't like it

@ianhomerpura8937

5 күн бұрын

Hokkien would also be nice, given that 95% of Chinese Filipinos speak Hokkien

Don't let the news media think for you, think for yourself.

@brendanburrows3217

17 күн бұрын

👍👍❤

@jeffcastaneda7010

16 күн бұрын

How do you know your thinking hasn’t already been shipped by the media and other constructs?

@CerroZimm

16 күн бұрын

@@jeffcastaneda7010 coz they usually provide us with a tracking number.

@monipenny408

16 күн бұрын

CNA is a U$ sponsored prop channel based in Singapore!

@Anthony-db7cs

16 күн бұрын

Yeah you can believe whatever fairytales you want in your mind while believing free press is all a lie haha

Pretty biased reporting. Enrollment in all “foreign” languages has gone down in all the traditionally English-speaking countries, not just Chinese.

@user-84-rg9-8n2

17 күн бұрын

Spanish learning has always been strong. And gaining popularity in the non-Anglosphere.

@koushikdas1992

17 күн бұрын

​@@user-84-rg9-8n2Spanish language based country is not that rich area in business & employment section. Most of the people of the world don't settle that much in Latin America, Central America at all.

@tommycecil60

16 күн бұрын

Hmmm according to Media Bias / Fact Check, CNA is rated: Factual Reporting: HIGH, MBFC Credibility Rating: HIGH CREDIBILITY, Failed Fact Checks - None in the Last 5 years

@jeffcastaneda7010

16 күн бұрын

What’s your source?

@guessmoments

16 күн бұрын

@@jeffcastaneda7010 he or she is just a typical low confident Chinese trying to argue his or her way out with ridiculous data plucked from the sky thats all. He or she is just talking nonsense here, just trying to save his or her Chinese Emperor face. can ignore.

大家好！我是墨西哥人，我从去年二月到现在都在学中文，我学习中文因为我想去中国旅游。 😊

@chrismanchin

19 күн бұрын

❤❤❤❤❤

@exjock4foodie

19 күн бұрын

Now there is direct flight from Mexico to China

@jiaweike3518

18 күн бұрын

China has a lot to offer. As a Chinese myself; even I haven't been to all the places in China. It's huge. You will like Chinese food and architecture.

@maximilliantarmidi6323

18 күн бұрын

好的.

@vincentc9910

17 күн бұрын

如果您环遊世界，您也需要学每个国家的语言吗？you don’t have to learn the language to travel. It’s too tired and idol way

I learned Japanese by chatting to Japanese friends and learning the grammar in the library (there wasn't much stuff on the internet back then); now I am learning Korean on KZread and also by chatting to Korean friends. I've NEVER studied a language at school as a subject. In my opinion, that's not where you should learn how to speak a language.

Refer to what happened in Japan and how Korean language studies are increasing

Poorly researched and misleading report. NZ alone does not represent the West.

@conchobar0928

15 күн бұрын

Where is this not true then? It's true in the US. I looked at the available classes and enrollment at my large public state college and it's less than half what it was when I was in the classes ten years ago. My 5th year Chinese class no longer exists, only goes up to 4th year now. Between professors and TAs, there used to be around 10 and now there's 3 or 4. Enrollment in the remaining classes is maybe 1/3 what it was.

@lagrangewei

14 күн бұрын

@@conchobar0928 many european countries are making mandarin compulsory. while US is just one of those fringe crazy country that make something as basic as abortion into a national debate... it's hardly the norm.

@awnv

13 күн бұрын

@@conchobar0928 Again, if you want to make a sweeping conclusion on this subject you need to back up with more than just one set or one source of data. Going to university or college to learn a foreign language is less effective nowadays compared to many other avenues including online.

@RyanCunningham-tw4wd

12 күн бұрын

But this channel's reports are primarily written for Singaporean audiences.

@conchobar0928

11 күн бұрын

@@awnv You claimed the news report was inaccurate, so it's actually on *you* to provide sources showing why. The news is just one source but you have provided 0 sources. This news report lines up with others I have seen from other countries' reporting as well, and lines up with my own first-hand experience. So, if you have data showing any of this to be wrong, we'd love to see it. If you don't have any sources to cite, well then....

Just like when Japan or Germany were the bigger economies. The whole world didn't learn these languages.

@thelastdefenderofcamelot5623

18 күн бұрын

Japan had the best education at the time. The number of Chinese speaking Japanese increased because of the decline of the Qing dynasty and the rise of civil war. There was no future in China at that time if you learned Mandarin. Everyone including Chiang Kai-shek went to study abroad.

@Anthony-db7cs

16 күн бұрын

Japan is the 4th largest economy and Germany the 3rd largest economy. Both languages are very popular. What are you talking about?

@wangchung7599

15 күн бұрын

​@@Anthony-db7cs Both German and Japanese languages are not the most spoken languages in the world.

@user-jj8kg5ef2t

14 күн бұрын

@@wangchung7599 Take away that 1.4B native speaker, how many in the world wanted to learn (such a low class language like) chinese? But tell me, how many non-natives would learn Japanese or German?

@vcn2022chaos

12 күн бұрын

@@user-jj8kg5ef2t What is the reason for describing Chinese as a low-level language? Is it because of your hostility towards China? I noticed that your profile picture uses the Chinese word "extinction." Are you an anti-China troll from the so-called Greater China region outside of mainland China?

Interest for Mandarin has gone down because interest for Japanese and Korean has gone up.

West, or English speaking nations?

@sasamiami1816

17 күн бұрын

😆🤣👍👍❤

@Eminence_in_shadow

15 күн бұрын

u need to account European countries in which English not their first language

@emiriebois2428

12 күн бұрын

they think they represent the west . And the west thinks represent the world

yeah we're learning Japanese and Korean

Mandarin will not decline. It is just that Singaporeans failed to master the language well because they overlooked the education in Chinese language. A lot of the top Chinese tech companies use Mandarin for daily communication and management even in their overseas offices in US, Europe, Singapore, etc. Singaporeans are struggling in these companies because they cannot get used to their way of communication.

@perrylim9728

19 күн бұрын

Remember on the other side in China, more people can speak ENG too

@banjiu10

19 күн бұрын

@@perrylim9728 Exactly. Singaporeans thought they have the advantage of being multilingual. But not any more. The younger generation of Chinese were trained much better in both English and Mandarin. Their talents have also gone through a much tougher training process to stand out from their huge population. Like that how can Singaporeans keep the competitiveness on the international stage?

@ericloo6576

18 күн бұрын

Originally the Chinese in Singapore spoke mostly Hokkien before PAP launched "Speak Mandarin Campaign".

@tankman20064

18 күн бұрын

​@@banjiu10got Singaporean left ? Since so many china man immigrate here ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. And china man already give up their citizenship

@dieglhix

17 күн бұрын

Too many cultures in Singapore and Chinese is really hard. They focused on keeping the country afloat with international services. And they did well so. I personally study Mandarin, though. I am already bilingual.

Because it’s too hard. You can learn 10 languages in the same time you need to learn just mandarin.

@GarrusVakarian-to2uh

16 күн бұрын

Chinese characters are the problem. Even you learn them, you forget them quickly. I lived in China/Taiwan for 3 years and speak fluent Mandarin but after returning the North America for 5 years I can only read and no longer write nor remember most Characters.

@DinoBryce

15 күн бұрын

​@@GarrusVakarian-to2uhYeah! I can say 500 chinese words, read 300, and write 50 😂

@TimLimDimSims

15 күн бұрын

Chinese grammar on the other hand is quite easy. You can avoid complicating conjugations like in the European languages. It hinders me being able to translate my Spanish into portuguese/italian and french.

@thorstenmarquardt7274

15 күн бұрын

@@TimLimDimSims that's why english and malay have prevailed as lingua francas. Simplicity always wins.

@user-pp7gb8vy3i

15 күн бұрын

Not really. If you focus mostly in the characters, then it's going to take a long time to learn the language. But if you focus mostly in speaking and understanding, it'll be quiet fast

I was lured in by the title, "Why is Mandarin declining in the West even as China rises?" and instead got a story on why learning Chinese is great for Indonesians.

meanwhile Korean language is rising in the West. You can attribute it to k-pop, k-dramas, k-beauty and k-films.

@olivia5030

18 күн бұрын

This is very likely part of the reason and unsurprising they didn't mention it.

@Afterthefallout55660

16 күн бұрын

I would say Korean is on the same level as Japanese in the West. I'm from Germany and we have plenty japanese classes and courses, more as korean language classes, but they are equal in interest, when it comes to people who want to learn those languages in school. Chinese and also Vietnamese are very rare, which is a problem, cause Germany has the biggest Vietnamese working force in Europe, but few people can speak or understand this language. It would be good if more people spoke Vietnamese in Germany, because that would help uncover the human trafficking in Germany that is carried out with Vietnamese workers. The language barrier is often a problem in social work or with the authorities. Japanese and Koreans in Germany mostly come from wealthy families, which is why there are no problems with them and they don't attract attention.

English continues to thrive as the lingua franca of the world, and it is rated as easier to learn than the Chinese language.

Japanese and Korean are in the same difficultly category as Mandarin for Westerners, those countries have greater popular culture soft power. People can imagine holidaying in or being posted to these countries for work. Not the same with China.

@doujinflip

19 күн бұрын

Right, very few foreigners learn Chinese due to personal appeal. It's basically limited to those with family heritage or direct business interests. I've found Korean and Japanese are equally powerful to Mandarin as a lingua franca around the world. That's how weak the media and soft power of modern China is globally.

Actually, when America was rising, the majority of Americans didn't speak Navajo and many other Native American languages either.

@honjuntan3807

19 күн бұрын

English has always been the primary language in the US not Navajo

@Alusnovalotus

19 күн бұрын

Yet English was never the official language of the country.

@sabrinarodrigues629

17 күн бұрын

White Europeans are responsible for making America the most powerful country in the world as it is today. Not Indians. Bye..

@roastnut

17 күн бұрын

That's a completely non connected analogy.

It's way too difficult a language for anybody with a European language background. You could learn French, Spanish and German in the time it takes to master Chinese.

@taiwan4563

12 күн бұрын

This is not the reason.The only one reason is just that your motivation is not strong enough,that’s it. The same situation could happen to the Chinese people ,but they still try to learn English and never give up.

@DonaldMains

12 күн бұрын

@@taiwan4563 No, that is a reason. yes it can be overcome with lots of motivation, but it's a very tough language for a European to learn. In the time it takes to learn Chinese one can learn English, French, Spanish and German.

@katharinabecker752

10 күн бұрын

For a European, no, it isn't too hard.. The spoken language definately is not so hard. There are not many good Chinese teachers so we learn online.

@DonaldMains

9 күн бұрын

@@katharinabecker752 it's hard, and saying otherwise just makes you look silly. Look it's not just my opinion. The US government publishes the hours it takes to reach a B2 level for a native English speaker French, Spanish 600-750 hours. German 900 hours Chinese 2200 hours You can learn French, Spanish AND German in the same time to learn Chinese.

越来越多的中国人能说流利的英语。所以，新西兰人不需要学习普通话就能与中国人民交流。

Please tell me how an ordinary person can learn this extremely difficult language? Talking is hard enough writing it is near impossible

@NinjennyLand

16 күн бұрын

It’s actually easy!!

Nonsense, that's because the number of Chinese international students has significantly decreased. Previously, many Chinese students in universities took Chinese language courses to easily earn credits

@yishen166

15 күн бұрын

经典^_^

probably switching to Korean or Japanese, China has a soft power problem

What is the advantage of learning mandarin over spanish or french or german or other scandinavian languages?

@kateli4812

12 күн бұрын

🎉

How do you write Laogai in Mandarin ?

Only overseas Chinese are interested in learning Chinese

@awaiskhan9329

11 күн бұрын

Speak for yourself. I am not Chinese and I am learning Chinese, there are lots of groups and pages on Facebook where foreigners are learning Chinese.

@NeostormXLMAX

10 күн бұрын

The video only said the west, saudi arabia made it mandatory

Vienna university used to enroll 100 students but 7~800 applied each year back even only five years ago, and now less than 100 apply.

@schurlbirkenbach1995

17 күн бұрын

The youth believes, English is enough. Of course that's not true. Concerning Chinese and Russian, there is a low level but constant propaganda against these countries in mass medias and in the social medias. (in case of Russia since decades, in case of China since a few years)

because they are learning on Duolingo for free😞

Tbh, you should learn a language because you may have a connection(emotional) with the country or countries. I wouldn’t recommend to learn any languages at all if the language is just useful when you have little interest to it, because the time and investment are too high and when you’re not fluent, the language skill cannot accumulate on its own, you’ll easily forget it, so it will be a complete waste of time. Might as well invest time in something more useful and interesting to you personally. There is however a cheat to overcome the boredom setback, that is find content that are interesting in your target language, to make it more interesting.

@chrisbunka

17 күн бұрын

You sound like lingosteve! BTW, that is meant as a compliment. He also instructs us to study content we find interesting.😀

@DinoBryce

15 күн бұрын

​@@chrisbunkaYeah! I mainly started learning Mandarin because it is the most spoken language with almost 1.5 billion speakers. I decided since Mandarin is standard Chinese, I would be able to communicate with a lot of people, unlike Arabic and Spanish with lots of dialects

Because China lacks attractive soft power. The reason I can speak a little Korean is not because I studied it, but because I love KPOP and watch videos every day.

@rollinghippo2940

17 күн бұрын

even korean is easier than mandarin

@chrisbunka

17 күн бұрын

Agree about the soft power. Young people aren’t going gaga over Kia and Hyundai (no offense meant to those automakers). They’re going gaga over the likes of BTS, Blackpink, NewJeans, etc. Although Japan’s economy is not as robust as it was when I started studying Japanese more than 30 years ago, anime and Hatsune Miku have picked up the slack.

@chrisbunka

17 күн бұрын

@@rollinghippo2940100% agree here. I don’t have to fumble with the pronunciation of a character because Hangeul is an alphabet.

@jakel8627

16 күн бұрын

Same with Portugues. Brazil is full of crime and poverty, but carnival is lit

@shoujoairocks

16 күн бұрын

this is the real answer.

The reason why i learned chinese before is because I want to marry chinese people. Since, I got married few years ago with indonesian woman, then I don't need to learn chinese anymore.

I agree. Californian here. 我有中国的老婆。

In russia it has been booming for a few years already. We have even made it compulsory in elementaty schoolf on a Far Eastern district. People have problems finding tutors online as well as offline, there is just too much demand at the moment.

An Indonesian here passionately learning Mandarin. Well, you cannot rule out China from discussion when it comes to the language, but it's not exclusively about China either. There are Taiwan and sizable mandarin-speaking communities in Southeast Asia. And even if you see China as your adversary, learning the nation's language still matters, just like the US promoted Russian language during the Cold War.

@kodetumbuh

20 күн бұрын

but most of them can't speak mandarin hayaaa only old generation know how to speak dialect hokkien, teochew, hakka etc but few of them, a lot my friends doesn't even know basic mandarin

@doujinflip

19 күн бұрын

Also more productive to learn Traditional script, since that's the character set that the largely pre-Communist diaspora read and write with. I find it easier to figure out Simplified later when I'm already familiar with the Traditional characters they simplified; the other way is noticeably more difficult.

@pass3d

18 күн бұрын

不爱学就别学呗，白人不学好像不是什么大事情。爱咋咋地

The only way to make mandarin a global language like English and Spanish is with 2 changes: 1. Replace characters with Pīnyīn 2. Simplify the tonal system to make it accessible to people who don’t have the time to become professional opera singers just to learn one language

@JalomMatia

18 күн бұрын

the tones are essential to know the meaning.

@thorstenmarquardt7274

17 күн бұрын

@@JalomMatia tones have been changed many times. The full 3rd tone can be abolished. Making the language significantly easier.

@JalomMatia

17 күн бұрын

@@thorstenmarquardt7274 the tones are not difficult to learn. and even if you abolished the characters and used pinyin, it would only work with having the tones, as there are too many words with the same spelling. the tones differentiate them. it's would be like having the words: cat, dog, sun, house, big, tall in the English language and they all have 4 or 5 different meanings. the language only works with tones, OR by adding thousands of new words.

@thorstenmarquardt7274

17 күн бұрын

@@JalomMatia tones are extremely hard for most people and they could easily be simplified. The long form of the 3rd tone could be abolished so that the short form can be used every time. The longer 4th could be less strict and just having a falling tone at any pitch should be enough. The first tone should be any flat tone from mid to high as long as it’s flat.

english is the mainstream language and other languages are dying or diminish from the scene. mandarin will stay in asia due to china's population size and china's economy.

Maybe it’s because the wildly use of the language learning APPs such as duolingo etc.

I'm not sure if this is accurate news. For example, I am currently learning German, Spanish and Hawaiian (ʻŌlelo Hawaiʻi, NOT Hawaiian Pidgin English) but I'm learning that self-paced and on the Internet at the comfort of my home. Since I'm learning those languages based on personal interest and personal reasons, why spend time traveling to/from school and pay expensive tuition when I can accomplish the same thing while enjoying the comfort of my home? I don't report my language learning time to statistics and I don't mind being uncounted among the population of students learning a non-native language. Maybe a lot more people are learning Mandarin online on their own time versus enrolling in school to learn Mandarin and personal online learners like me are invisible to the statistics in question.

Also you have to remember you have to take 4 semesters of a foreign language in american universities. The options are Japanese, Chinese, Arabic, Latin, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Russian, German, and French. Pretty sure Japanese has absorbed most of the Chinese learners. I know this is in New Zealand but probably is true for the US as well.

It is bacaues all languages can be learned from Al.

@dieglhix

17 күн бұрын

you don't learn well until full physical immersion into a culture. But you can learn a lot of grammar and hanzi with AI

@thorstenmarquardt7274

12 күн бұрын

Every language can be learnt from AI except for Chinese, Thai, Vietnamese, and Lao

@dieglhix

12 күн бұрын

@@thorstenmarquardt7274 Yeah I am studying Chinese and needs real world immersion

I feel it's become less necessary. Unlike Japanese, most Chinese who I've met overseas can speak acceptable level of English. And in the case you do come across a Chinese person who cant speak any English, there are plenty of Chinese anywhere who can act as an interpreter.

@frankhill4358

20 күн бұрын

Mandarin online enrollment has increased Also most people you meet in China can’t speak fluent English (google the stats if you don’t believe me) - which is fine as they live in China. Not to mention some Chinese people might take it the wrong way when you show up in China and start speaking English like a colonizer lol

@hayabusa1329

19 күн бұрын

This. Most Chinese/Korean people speak way better English than Japanese people

@kenyup7936

17 күн бұрын

Thank you for that compliment ❤

@mashitta5969

15 күн бұрын

Koreans basic english level is higher than japan.

@lagrangewei

14 күн бұрын

and who will make more money? the one who speak only 1 language or 2? just because other can do it does not mean it is not important to know.

Chinese language speaking is also dropped in Singapore. English speaking person is increasing up to 70%. I felt is the cause of education policy. Likewise America abolished Chinese Confucius institutions to minimum.

@cashmerecat9269

19 күн бұрын

I found that english is spoken less and less in HK..I just came back and hardly find anyone spoke English..

@themiddlekingdom9121

19 күн бұрын

@@cashmerecat9269 Another 50 years from now, there won't be native Hong Kongers spoken English.

@CJ-re7bx

18 күн бұрын

@@themiddlekingdom9121 They probably won't speak cantonese either.

@linusgoh3365

17 күн бұрын

There is a sense that locals tend to speak mandarin with a mixture of English. This is unacceptable to a chinese company interviewing a local chinese with just a basic grasp of the language.

@kenyup7936

17 күн бұрын

You’re too politics

10 years ago a bunch of international students from China would take mandarin as easy credit courses in university - now there aren't as many of these international students

The #1 reason， Girls！！！ I started learning chinese 8 months ago and it has really opened up my dating market. I think those learning to make professional advancement will always be small. Not many will be in international business or move to china. The vast majority will learn it as a hobby and their love and curiosity of the culture. Its a good way to make friends. This CNA interview is very last century as it seem to focus on the professional reasons. Today, when you can learn a new language, you can hop into a low cost budget plane and visit the country of that language. You can also make friends before you go. The dating opportunities are enormous! With the lost cost airlines, making a trip to your target language once a month is even possible! It opens up everything. Not everything has to be connected to a professional pursuit. It can be personal. A girlfriend, a friend, explore new places etc. etc.

@jacqueslee2592

15 күн бұрын

Well, China does have a surplus of leftover women so it is easier to find one if you are of European, Australian, or American.

A specific case of (Mandopop) Mandarin disappearing: KPop group TWICE has 5 members born in Korea who produce music products in Korean language; TWICE has 2 members born in Japan who produce music products in Japanese; TWICE has 1 member born in San Antonio, Texas, who produces music products in Anglo-American English; TWICE has 1 member born on Beautiful Sweet Potato Island .BUT. she does NOT produce music products in Mandopop Mandarin (e.g. the Taipei Golden Melody Awards). At least 3 members studied Mandarin as trainees, but I have never seen Ms Sally Tzuyu Chou engaged in Mandarin conversation with one of these students. JYPE has done Mandopop Mandarin on stage: A LITTLE HAPPINESS was performed by Got7 (Jackson Wang and Mark Tuan), also by MiChaeng (NOT Tzuyu).

Chinese is a tougher sell than in 2010 when the world was more open. Another era of optimism is needed.

makes perfect sense as its not an easy language to learn

有没有具体数字和幅度啊

There are many Australians willing to learn Mandarin. The government encourages students to learn a foreign language and mandarin is taught in many high schools in Victoria.

Because the language is so damn complicated and difficult to learn!

@JalomMatia

18 күн бұрын

It's actually easier than many.

Actually, we Indonesians are more familiar with Hokkien than Mandarin. Thanks to Chin Yung drama on national TV during 2000s till 2010s. Sin Tiauw Enghiong, Sin Tiauw Hiaplu and To Liong To drama are very popular... I don't know what happened, but the names of the main characters in Chin Yung's drama in KZread have changed recently... I dunno whether the Chinese change their national language or not... The examples are: 1. Thio Sam Hong became Zhang Sanfeng 2. Thio Bu Ki became Zhang Wuji 3. Yo Ko became Yang Guo 4. Kwee Ceng became Guo Jing 5. Kwee Siang became Guo Xiang 6. And many more...

What was that interview with the Indonesian guy lol? He gave some really poor reasons for why translation software could not replace human translators, and then when giving examples in Mandarin specifically, it took him like 30 seconds to then just give an example that anyone who has taken like 3 Mandarin classes could give you.

Anyone who wants to understand the categories that people use to organize their thoughts cannot avoid learning the Chinese language. I have been studying it for 30 years, regardless of how economic and political relations develop. Anyone who wants to have close, friendly relationships with Chinese people must learn this language. I have been waiting in vain for decades for Western companies to understand this idea.

Dream on, CNA!

CNA has forgotten about India. You could do another video with this headline Why is Hindi language isn't been mentioned more often in most countries even as India rises?

@zolandia5262

20 күн бұрын

Probably because of the way English is used in India. Pretty much any Indian person in a position to interact with the outside world would have some command of English.

@ahantu

20 күн бұрын

@@zolandia5262 Agree and aware of their high proficiency in English. Still, Indian people do consider Hindi as their official language. Without learning Hindi, outsiders don't fully understand India in many aspects, just the same as outsiders don't filly understand China.

@shaungordon9737

20 күн бұрын

Because English is the most widely spoken language in India, and is growing every day. Not all of India is Hindi-speaking, especially in the south and north-east where English is more common.

@ahantu

20 күн бұрын

@@shaungordon9737 Agree. That doesn't explain the lack of interest to talk about Hindi, as another language to learn. And, there are lots of Indians who are born in the west and countries that isn't India too. Would the frequency of mentioning about Mandarin decline if more Chinese in China speak more English? I doubt it will be. It is just that China is often seem more relevant than India to everyone.

@cosmoray9750

19 күн бұрын

@@zolandia5262 Indian don't speak English. As my friend has said to me. Indian speaks Inglish. They do not speak proper English. See the difference.

as a people was born around 1985, we start learning English from grade 7, and most of students have learned English for 6 years before getting to university. but just a very few people can use the English to speak and understand the speakers. i think the method of English education is really very bad.

Maybe because it's logographic writing? It can be so hard to remember so much character just to express something simple. It's not so hard in English with only 26 characters

@DinoBryce

15 күн бұрын

Not English, but example Spanish or Italian

There will always be intelligent and knowledgeable elite Westerners who choose to study Chinese, and fewer Westerners learning this language demonstrate the precious of those learners.

This report focuses on western part of the world where the chinese influence are being crippled by the trade war. Learning mandarin is still a very good thing for us who lives in the east, where the chinese influence are getting stronger, not just mainland china, taiwan and hongkong as well. I may personally benefit a lot from this mandarin decline in the west, as the job demand for multi linguist like me somehow only grows.

6:30 a lot of word are very similar….. yea… that is why you need more that 4 tones….

As someone who reliably speaks one foreign language other than Spanish, with two others at a beginning level, there's a lot to consider with Mandarin. A big part of me would consider taking on Mandarin as an adventure. In many ways it could be a lot of fun. But, there's a lot of factors at work. I have seen too many foreign language learning disappointments for second language Mandarin learners- if they are not White, they are instantly disrespected by the vast majority of Chinese out there. Then, on top of that, Chinese people seem to love to belittle and tease foreigners when they try to speak Mandarin. After having gone through that before, I don't have the patience to go through it again with a different language. Chinese people also seem to love to belittle foreigners for any trivial reason they can think of- if you are even slightly over weight, for example. Too many anecdotal tales like this exist out there for me to spend my time learning Chinese.

@jacqueslee2592

15 күн бұрын

This is true because Chinese consume Western news outlet so they consume the negative that US portrays of their minorities and surrounding countries. Younger Chinese in the present have been Americanized but it is true that they would only befriend or treat respectably a white European or American male than any other nationality because the worldview is essentially that you are second class citizens in US. A lot of Chinese are forgetting their past history and have become too materialistic and arrogant. This is true of East Asian countries, they also look down upon Southeast Asian countries.

Because I do not have the courage. I'm learning a bit of Russian, and it's quite intimidating. Cannot imagine learning Mandarin, which is at least twice as difficult as Russian for a Dutch speaker.

It's probably due to the popular culture soft power which is much stronger from Japan (Anime, Manga, Ramen, Samurai, Karate, beautiful landscapes and arts), Korea (K-Pop, K-Drama, Fashion, etc.). China doesn't have that in the same way. I'm a grad student in Germany and the Japanese (especially beginner) classes are always booked out immediately. The Chinese classes on the other hand aren't. But that's must my point of view from a mid sized city in northern Germany.

@baikeiast5255

14 күн бұрын

Ohhh anime the japs created those funny cartoon to hide their past😅😅😅😅😅

Not declining. Just not as mainstream curriculum. Two very different meanings, the former was worded in sensational narrative.. Culture should not be used as a tool of sensatiosm journalism. In Multipolar world.

@ssuwandi3240

20 күн бұрын

@@GaiusCaesar_ well you can go to McDonald's and you would never find Dim.Sums. You and Taiwanese alike and the media don't have to compete in Copiumist Culture.

@ssuwandi3240

20 күн бұрын

@@GaiusCaesar_ Dim Sums have been thriving in many China Town in metro cities.. if you're ever once in US, that area is popular go to list for tourists, and therefore not worthy the accusation!! But I heard McD failed in Vietnam so American burger seems to show a sign of declining Copium meal in Vietnam. That's 2 very different contexts that MSM seem to often get lost in translation. Click bait title. Sorry am not a Consultant to advise what's wrong with your class. Very likely Joeflation.

@ssuwandi3240

20 күн бұрын

It's obvious that this channel censored a LOT, am not sure the point of arguing. Din Sums are popular American meals, everywhere in metro cities. if you offer a free immersive class am sure that soon will be in the mainstream. Thanks to Bidenomics and ALL supporters voted for the circus

It's not declining. I'm learning it! But it's super annoying that they teach you simplified characters at so many places. Time to end that crap and return to traditional in the Mainland.

If china wants to trade with the world, they should learn english. Even in singapore. I made the decision for my daughter to learn bahasa in pri school instead of chinese. Easier to score too hehe

That Indonesian guy says that AU isn’t able to distinguish between tones?! That’s ignorant. It can easily distinguish between them.

sometimes i wonder how does china programmers do their code in chinese.

@leeming2781

20 күн бұрын

Although programs can also be written in Chinese, Chinese programmers do not use Chinese to write programs because the semantics of Chinese have different meanings in different environments. The principle of the program lies in the operation of weak electricity on the circuit board. This has little to do with language, but is closely related to the operating principle of the circuit. 01 can represent English, Chinese, or any other language and symbol.

@winsonip4447

20 күн бұрын

I have a Chinese colleague who is a very skilled programmer and has memorized all the codes. However, the most challenging aspect for everyone is that she doesn't know English, which creates difficulties in her communication with foreign colleagues.

Fei Hua is the first Chinese word I learned because the average Chinese like to discuss so much Fei Hua that it makes the language less interesting and less engaging. They make you waste your time just so you can go around and do the same thing to others. Even Neo realized this was all bullshit and completely got over it within a minute. I know Fei Hua!

I'm from UK and currently learning, theres plenty of apps now to help with learning - maybe thats why enrolment its down? so many good apps

I wish more people learned their own mother tongues like Cantonese, Hokkien, Shanghainese, Teochew, Hainanese, Teochew, Sandungese, ... I know we still need to learn Mandarin but it doesn’t mean we have to abandon our own languages, right everyone?!

It's basically impossible to learn for most people. I speak 4 languages but Mandarin is out of my reach.

@lazyjaney28

18 күн бұрын

It’s because the West did not teach traditional Mandarin, but teach CCP’s simplified Mandarin instead

@CatherineRiveraintuitive

18 күн бұрын

Ya it seems super challenging cause it’s so different from English and so many people speak English already

@belachaney

15 күн бұрын

​@@lazyjaney28it's not CCPs Mandarin, you sound like the typical western, CIA indoctrinated 🤡

@NZintheFarEast

14 күн бұрын

I strongly disagree. The characters, pronunciation, and all other aspects of Mandarin which people consider to be difficult are made trivially easy by the use of technology (WeChat Audiobooks with transcripts, Hanping Chinese Dictionary/Popup, other popup dictionary browser extensions etc)

@baikeiast5255

14 күн бұрын

​@@lazyjaney28you acting smart for a dumb person

Some of my theories: • Majority of the West views language learning as a nuisance compared to other non-Western countries. "They should speak English" mentality breeds this so language learning becomes more of a hobby for them as opposed to a necessity. • With the advancement of A.I, people are just waiting for the day that we have headphones that can automatically translate between languages instantaneously. • Learning Mandarin is hard and most people quit after the initial stages. • In class teaching styles are outdated. Most engaging content can be studied and learned from online teachers more effectively than the classroom. It's not that classroom teachers are bad, it's that those teachers have to adhere to a curriculum that they have no control over. Context: I'm an Asian American living in China and I meet a lot of foreigners that have lived here for 5+ years and can't speak a lick of Mandarin because of the above reasons.

@thorstenmarquardt7274

16 күн бұрын

most westerners (non-americans) actually enjoy learning languages for fun, but tones and memorising characters are in fact a nuissance. because its just inefficient. Life is too short to memorise thousands of little images

@SK-lt1so

16 күн бұрын

Your post is a long guess.

@SubwayStreetvendorblocki-hn1wy

16 күн бұрын

No, it is because Because Chinese Mandarin it is a SYMBOL OF individual oppression. Boring and lacking unity as and pure power. Whereas Irish and Italian are infinite omens of individual power, unity, national strength with the generosity of everyone helping everyone together under a supreme leader.

@DinoBryce

15 күн бұрын

​​​​@@thorstenmarquardt7274I actually only started learning Mandarin because they have almost 1.5 billion speakers. Other than that, I actually don't really like China at all. I have been learning for 3 years now but when people talk to me, I can't understand what they are saying. Many chinese people actually change the tones of words because their native language is not mandarin.

@thorstenmarquardt7274

15 күн бұрын

@@DinoBryce to be fair, it’s the same in Britain. I was able to communicate in English all over the world without any problems, but when I came to the UK, I couldn’t understand a word.

Pff.. its this generation. They don’t want to learn anything. They can’t even drive 10 miles without using their phone gps instead of learning a map.

@Icarus47249fd

17 күн бұрын

‘Its this generation,’ you sound like a disgruntled old fart.

I did HSK 5 and studied in China, but foreigners don't really have long term future in China, for instance it's almost impossible to get any kind of PR status there and build your life. Now I live and work in SEA country, and have gotten PR here and settled. Chinese hasn't really benefitted me at all tbh, it has more like been a personal curiosity. It's good to know if you travel in China or Taiwan, will make life much easier, but I would learn Japanese or even something completely different if I had to pick again. For the record, I am from northern europe

They should teahc the pinyin (romanized) system which is easier for foreigners.

Enthusiasts can get an electronic translator and learn at his own pace.

Aren't there different variations of Chinese language? There's simplified Mandarin used in mainland and traditional Mandarin in Taiwan. There is also the Cantonese language which also uses traditional writing and this is the culture the world is more familiar with and uses similar writing as Japanese. Then there's the Japanese, a very very old type of Chinese language derived from the Tang era and it has no similarity with Mandarin. Vietnam and South Korea abolished Chinese. I think the reason why Chinese is not popular is because of how fast it is spoken. You can fit a whole entire essay into a paragraph length. If you were to make a Matrix movie in Chinese, it would be like a 1 hour running time.

@cowholy3031

17 күн бұрын

Japanese did not originate in Tang Dynasty China. In fact, Japanese, Korean and Vietnamese have nothing to do with Chinese, they just borrowed Chinese words and characters. They have language logic that is different from Chinese, just as Spanish is different from Latin. The Japanese claim of a common cultural background with China is also a lie, they never had any influence on China in ancient times, it just better imitated the Chinese.

@thelastdefenderofcamelot5623

17 күн бұрын

@@cowholy3031 True Japanese did developed its own language so yes it can be classified as a separate entity. However I believe the core culture the rule of law with the moral code, and many cultural aspects such as architect, technology and agriculture were influenced from the ancient culture of China. The problem is that this old culture doesn't exist anymore on the mainland. So I wouldn't really interpret as imitation. It's more like cultural preservation.

@cowholy3031

17 күн бұрын

@@thelastdefenderofcamelot5623 Rome no longer exists, but its relationship to Italy today cannot be denied. Like biological evolution, ancient creatures don't exist today, but that doesn't mean they haven't survived until today, and they have produced offspring. Of course, Japan has developed its own culture, but it cannot be seen as inheriting it from China, it just imitated it. Just as the Germans imitated the Romans, but the two were not directly related, the Germans only accepted the influence and rule of the Romans, but cannot be regarded as the inheritance of the Romans. Can the Spaniards be considered part of Arab culture because they were under Arab rule and cultural influence? The same applies to the Japanese.

@cowholy3031

17 күн бұрын

@@thelastdefenderofcamelot5623 The Italians know how to preserve the cultural heritage of their ancestors, and so do the Chinese. In the process of inheriting ancient Chinese culture, the Japanese do not have to do anything. In fact, the Japanese did a lot of damage to China's cultural heritage during WWII. Chinese artifacts were snatched and never returned. The Germans are imitating Rome, the Japanese are imitating China, too. If you ask the Chinese if they see Japanese culture as part of their culture, you'll get an absolute no. The geographical proximity of Japan and China should not be seen as belonging to the same cultural sphere. Anyone who says Turkey belongs to the Western cultural sphere is sure to be treated as a lunatic in Europe.

@thelastdefenderofcamelot5623

17 күн бұрын

​@@cowholy3031 That's the problem with Chinese academics. History is very complicated because it ruled over by different dynasties and culture. Tang is an extinct culture in China. A lot of the modern corrupt teachings was inherited from the Manchus. They were never called Chinese. That's why the average Chinese is poorer than the Japanese since the Qing dynasty. That's why you're inserting in WWII stories that has nothing to do with my comment. I'm done with Fei Hua.

There are sooo many really great online resources these days and teachers, who can be contacted via italki e.g. . No need to visit a school 🙏🏻

It has a lot to do with visa policies, no easy travelling

@JalomMatia

18 күн бұрын

fairly easy for a tourise or business visa, but yes, not as easy as other nearby countries.

Mandarin is tough to learn. After all, the Chinese are learning English.

@timloo6191

19 күн бұрын

Ang moh power

@MrBoliao98

19 күн бұрын

More like the Chinese have higher IQ to learn so many languages.

@oreradovanovi5204

17 күн бұрын

It's not though, russian, even spanish are harder, I speak all of them. Any language is hard, not to mention english, one of the hardest languages, with no good teaching system, because the natives don't get the problems.

@selflesssamaritan6417

17 күн бұрын

The rest of the world are learning English as well.

@DinoBryce

15 күн бұрын

​@@oreradovanovi5204Is your native language English?

Learn Canto, it's more fun, and it doesn't hurt your jaws as much as learning Pu Tung Hwa.

you know why I like this news channel... because it doesn't make me AFRAID

Recently we saw in national media that Hungary and Serbia have Chinese schools. So has been up tick of Chinese school students in many countries as growing Chinese businesses and tourists around the world. 1.4 billion Chinese market is huge especially with growing young middle class.

Being called or regarded as pro-Chinese/China just because one wishes to study Mandarin is just plain, old ridiculous. Me myself studied it 2 years ago and until now I keep improving my speaking skills because I sometimes use it to communicate with my fellow software developers whose native language is Mandarin. You study the language because it sparked interest in you, and actually being able to speak the language means career opportunities will open up as well, assuming one becomes conversational enough to start doing business in a non English-speaking environment.

In general, I don't think business-minded types are serious about studying Mandarin or need it, but it IS worth it for anyone interested in Sinophone cultures, civilizations, literature, film, etc. 而且，如果你想要一個比較自由的學習環境， 還可以來台灣！:D

@kenyup7936

17 күн бұрын

you should call your language taiwanese instead of mandrain .

I just started to learn mandarin😂

@amj.composer

13 күн бұрын

Same lol XD I love it

Next. Arabic and French is going to make a come back

@JalomMatia

18 күн бұрын

Arabic maybe. French is a dying language and useless to learn.

Mr Senator, I'm Singaporean!

@djibicisse

19 күн бұрын

Can he speak Chinese? 😂 Why he didn’t study in china but chose Harvard

Because its TOO DIFFICULT!

Well plenty to do

Now a lot of Chinese in China jobless, you think you can learn Chinese to work in China? A lot of foreign investment already left China.

Maybe because they are being demonised so much?? Learning a language teaches CULTURE, and if you do business in a country, CULTURE is important...

I’m Chinese and I’m learning English atm , but my English is terrible , my English teacher feels frustrated I’m sorry my terrible learning skills and I have social anxiety, that’s why I don’t speak well anyway Btw my IELTs level probably band 4 unfortunately 😢

@exo-l4742

16 күн бұрын

加油!

@fany9178

16 күн бұрын

加油！ you will get there for sure 👍

@doords

14 күн бұрын

Confidence is an illusion. Confident people are actors. Approach things this way will eliminate anxiety

Many African people learning Chinese language for easier conversation with their China business partner

Wonder if CNA script writers and journalists are trained from CNN and BBC ? 🤣

The decline is due to the fact Chinese is hard to learn. It's tonal sounds and very complex alphabet.

The company ( it a massive company) I used to work for has an unofficial policy where if the CV of an applicant shows that they can speak mandarin then it automatically goes to the trash can as it is believed that the applicant could be there to steal technology.

@leeming2781

20 күн бұрын

According to your sentence meaning. 1. You said that the management of a large company is extremely failed and that core documents can be easily stolen. This reflects the company's backward management philosophy and the lax behavior of managers. 2. The company believes that people who speak Mandarin will steal technology, so in turn, can it be understood that people who speak English will use barbaric behavior to obtain profits? Such as robbery, killing, spreading rumors and cheating, selling slaves, and forcing women to sell their bodies?

@luceafarul579

20 күн бұрын

Wow, racism on display

@kagenlim5271

20 күн бұрын

​@@luceafarul579how

I'm not surprised at this. I'm surprised at the false optimism that created the mini-boom in the first place. 1. Languages are hard in general. It takes a huge amount of time and effort to reach the point where you can be productive and taken seriously in a business context - time and effort that can go into some more tangible or commercial skill (see point 4). I do believe that all language-learning is in decline in the English-speaking world, I regret to say. 2. Chinese is particularly hard because of the bronze-age writing system 3. For the West, China is becoming much more politically and economically risky to do business with. The optimism about the vast potential Chinese market has gone. Instead, it's more apparent that Chinese companies want to learn your stuff, do it cheaper, and either sell it themselves to their internal market or sell it back to your home market in your place. 4. For native English speakers, and I imagine for most Western businesses, your limited skill in Chinese isn't going to get you any return. Whatever Chinese business you're dealing with will already have English speakers who know their English better than you know Chinese. It's less and less the case that you can come out of University with your loan on your back having studied something for love and interest. You have to get a job. And knowing a bit of Chinese is not enough on its own to qualify you for any good job. Plus, as someone says further down, these days you can do it for free on the Internet.