- "What could be more depressing than commieblocks?" - "Homelesness."

@CevicheGato

Жыл бұрын

Facts

@degenetron7590

Жыл бұрын

Homelesness isn't a problem when your government is actually competent and can resolve the issue, here in Belgium the government will give you social housing and theres countless programs that will help you get back on your feet. This is the case with most western european countries. Homelesness isn't an excuse to spam cheap commie blocks everywhere. It was done because it was cheap and fast Instead of some post commie country where literally everywhere is filled with commie blocks, and even then people struggle. The west is better if you wanna live as a modern human. Those poor former soviet countries gotta recover from the shit Lenin started. Most wanting to join the EU and NATO, no one embraces their soviet past. Communism was a tumor on this earth and countries are trying to recover, then you got Russia who's just terminally ill

@tunguska2370

Жыл бұрын

​@degenetron7590 commie block exists because it is after the war, and the government need to house everyone fast But yeah it is long enough for commie block to go now

@crunchyandmagnificent5646

Жыл бұрын

@@degenetron7590 so Belgian government counters one of the most pressing issues of capitalism by employing socialist (or rather, as they like to call it, social-democratic) policies Also, how the hell is modern Russia communist in any way? It's just as capitalistic as the US

@degenetron7590

Жыл бұрын

@@crunchyandmagnificent5646 Yes, a competent government will install social housing to accomodate the less fortunate, what is wrong with that? Does that mean we should all turn to communism and give it a 50th chance? Fuck off. Thanks to capitalism our country isn't so shit and primitive to live in, some people will end up homeless but thats normal, theyre junkies and drug addicts and our government will help them. It has to come from both sides. Sleeping in a shelter somewhere in Berlin getting food from authorities and the possibility to get back on your feet anytime you want sounds better than living in a depressing ass crumbling commieblock making €200 a month knowing your government is full of greedy corrupt shills. And no I didn't mean that russia now is communist, I just meant theyre terminally ill because they cant let go of their soviet past, or putler atleast cant.

To be fair, many people from around the world call our ex-socialist countries grey and depressing but a big reason for it is the climate, literally put the city of Vorkuta in somewhere around southern France and it will look "better" in their eyes..

@marshall_zhukov

2 жыл бұрын

Wrong. Socialist architects did indeed work in France and guess what ... they adopted Brutalism as their design philosophy. Making entire areas of french cities hideous concrete labyrinths (like the banlieues in Marseille, Grenoble, Montpellier, Lyon, Bordeaux... which are all in the south) So yeah Socialism is UGLY

@helenahrebeljanoviccipras

2 жыл бұрын

yes, let's not forget 'the ugly grey buildings'. because homelessness is prettier

@marshall_zhukov

2 жыл бұрын

@@helenahrebeljanoviccipras We're arguing about whether socialism is ugly Sorry buddy you're moving goal posts

@dzonikg

2 жыл бұрын

Yes climate..someone from England who visited Yugoslavia in 80s in spring or summer ,like Adriatic coast would probably thing is paradise . Cities in West europe kind off look the same spring ,summer or autumn ,because they have very not much greenery in cities ,it how they were build..nice builings but greenery very little. Most cities that were mostly build in socialisms at least here in ex Yugoslavia had tons off parks and greenery even in streets so they look totaly different in May then in November

@abdiganisugal825

2 жыл бұрын

@@marshall_zhukov I'm not a socialist myself but homelessness is a social issue which is very relevant to the discussion. Homeless people are often capable of becoming productive members of society if given the chance. They can also be sources of new criminals, which will make your city very ugly rather quickly. If we were simply talking about socialist/communist architecture, you'd be correct. However, we are talking about a political system and its impact on society.

i wanna add that the slogan of "peace, land, bread" was also specifically directed at the situation in russia at the time peace because the wanted to end russia's participation in the 1st world war, land because a lot of russians were serfs and didn't own the land that they worked on and bread because of the massive famines

@Crown_995

Жыл бұрын

And ironically they didn't get any of that... quite the opposite

@yari4046

Жыл бұрын

@@Crown_995 u just wrong

@Crown_995

Жыл бұрын

@@yari4046 Peace? 5 more years of civil war, and war with Poland is far from peace. Land? They took all the land from the peasants and nationalised it. (There were no serfs in Russia in 1917, for like half a century already) Bread? Yeah, Holodomor sounds like a time of plenty and prosperity, together with all those "minor" famines from the interwar period.

@yari4046

Жыл бұрын

@@Crown_995 ok bro ur still wrong

@idiocrat3744

Жыл бұрын

@@Crown_995 1. Peace? Somebody ignores 1922-1939 2. Land? The Decree of Land has provided peasantry with land. Collectivisation did not make it forceful, instead they nationalised the Kulak land and distributed it among peasants via cooperatives. Personal property and plots of land that remained in the hands of small and middle class peasants weren't touched until New Dekulakization held by Khruschev. I agree they ain't serfs but they weren't those cool farmers with actual plot of land - nothing changed since 1861 except the fact that it's a de-facto rent slavery 3. Bread? Post-civil war famine in 1922, Ukrainian famine in 1932-1933 and Post-WW2 famines were the only ones to happen in the USSR while Russian Empire had such every 5-7 years.

I'd posit that the Bolsheviks looked upon the French Revolution as a warning as much as an inspiration. They viewed the French radicals as being romanticist, utopian, and politically inept. They were paranoid that their own revolution would fail in the same way, and took every effort to prevent a repetition of Thermidor, Napoleon, or the Bourbon Restoration. They therefore opted for a sort of bland, hard headed and hard hearted practicality that has been overly stereotyped

@marianotorrespico2975

2 жыл бұрын

Correct.

@stillwaitingforblackmetalr2503

2 жыл бұрын

@Denise From 2018 Except we are moving away from the eternal cynicism of Late Stage Capitalism and into post-irony and new-romanticism. People are tired of not taking anything seriously, but they also don't want to take things AS seriously as the ideologues of the 19th and 20th century did. We are moving into a more "real" idealism.

@ercoleborgiano

2 жыл бұрын

@Denise From 2018 We live in a time of in-action. Streamers instead of speakers. Podcasters instead of real-life educating of the masses. Twitter fits instead of strikes and unionization. Internet "gurus" instead of smart heads further developing revolutionary theory and meeting the new challenges of our era.

@HandleMyBallsYouTube

2 жыл бұрын

@@ercoleborgiano I'd argue that's only really because things haven't gotten that bad yet, as crazy as that might sound the western world is still far from any real troubles. So long as the vast majority of people are content with what they have there will never be a revolution of any kind. Things might be shit, I might never own a house, but I also don't live in a fucking box made out of sheet metal and dreams, I don't have to break my back carrying coal from a mine, and I eat fairly well. Honestly if you entertain any dreams of being a freedom fighting hero you're better off moving to the third world, no one is going to follow you here because despite all the bullshit they're just about happy enough to not give a shit, for now. That's not to say things will never change, a lot of things can happen and most likely will happen. Anyone who thinks history has ended isn't seeing the bigger picture. No doubt those wealthy Romans thought their empire would be eternal, and it's easy to see why, it's not much of a fall after all unless you're at the top. We are currently living in an age where shit is hitting the fan (occasionally at supersonic speeds) and at a constantly increasing rate, for most of my life I didn't think I would live to see the shit that I see, ''not in the western world'' I would say, and I would indeed live to find out just how absolutely wrong I was about everything. But at the same time, short of some incredible event that manages to cause massive issues like famine in the western world, I don't think anything is going change that much.

@ercoleborgiano

2 жыл бұрын

@@HandleMyBallsKZread I am well aware of the comfort levels in the West. Spare me the long reply. But, I am also convinced that the patience threshold of the modern man has been significantly extended thanks to capitalist domestication, hence why you won't see any revolution in the Third World either. Not anytime soon. P. S. Funny you assumed I'm from the West. I am not.

one of the reasons why commie blocks look depressing is because all of the photos are ones from after the collapse of the eastern block and look bad because of lack of maintenance

@AdobadoFantastico

Жыл бұрын

People miss this. In Bulgaria we have a few intact examples of beautiful reliefs on the side of buildings which used to be all over the place. It took a lot of skill and there was a lively industry to produce/maintain them. The decorating needs to be maintained and renewed. What it really represents is how discouraged everyone became with the long term siege of sanctions.

@edvardseglitis7128

Жыл бұрын

yeah, no. they are designed to be built quick , with shitty quality, they were supposed to be used for max 20 years, after that they decay, if you make something quick and cheap you dont want to maintain it , but just build a new one

@alexandrupreda5275

Жыл бұрын

@@edvardseglitis7128 don’t know about other countries but in Romania these were built with warranty period of 50 years. I live i one and i can’t complain. Old commie blocks were built with being liveable areas in mind, walkable and with lots of trees between them.

@edvardseglitis7128

Жыл бұрын

@@alexandrupreda5275 depends on what style you live in, the ones made from bricks are solid, but the ones made with panels are shit

@siyacer

Жыл бұрын

A well maintained slab of concrete is still a slab of concrete

as a person from former ussr republic of lithuania, i agree with so many in this video, so many good points. i would also add on topic of video name "Why is Communism so depressing and grey?", no one talking about that most of photos from 50s 60s 70s ussr was black and white, many were taken during building of entire microdistricts, in autumn and winter, mud and non colored photos look naturally depressing and are grey.... and then they compare to today 4k hdr colored photos of modern buildings that are oversaturated and bright.... i have good amount of colored ussr era pictures they dont look at all depressing. And even living in those block (as i did my entire life) isnt depressing at all. Recently they got renovated after 50 70 years standing strong, and look as good as new, they are simple, a bit small in some cases, but they do what they meant to do, give people place to live, sleep, eat, relax etc. Not to mention they were free, and now price of average ussr era flat 2 rooms is around 60-80k euros in biggest lithuanian cities, now families have to take loans and pay them for 20 30 years or till pension to own an apartement, in past it was free ( yes there were lines to wait, yes in some instances you payed a bit to get it closer to job or your desirable floor), but in the end it was free, both my grandparents families got them, uncles and aunt families too, most live in them to this day. Municipal taxes are low, you pay for gas/water/electricity 50-100 euros per month, in ussr era it was few rubles (note wages also were lower). Way cheaper than those usa houses in suburbs costing thousands per month, or rents in city also in thousands, similar trend coming to lithuania too an post ussr state that struggles since 90s chaos to this day, no matter what media or government pushes on news people know whats happening, and majority still misses 60s 70s decades of ussr, unrivaled equality, stability...

@yayowuu

7 ай бұрын

Amen brother

@Thejogasa02

6 ай бұрын

My god man, u must think we don't know where Lithuania is or something as the country is on a much much much better shape than in the 90s and the Soviet era

@NostalgicMem0ries

6 ай бұрын

​@@Thejogasa02 all countries are doing better than 30 40 years ago, especially chaotic 90s. you missed my point, its about how people felt, more equal, more stable economically, than today.

@Thejogasa02

6 ай бұрын

@@NostalgicMem0ries yeah people in Spain also feel that Franco era was more stable, social and economically, but after you take a look at statistics you comprehend that nostalgia sometimes tricks you

@NostalgicMem0ries

6 ай бұрын

@@Thejogasa02 cant talk anything about spain, we need to ask spanish people who seen both eras. i can only talk about ussr and modern comparisons, i stated everything n my post before. you are free to disagree or agree, but if you never lived in that era, i doubt your opinion is non biased. cause to be born in 90s or even later not knowing how life was in 60s 70s 80s, only seeing 90s chaos and later gradual life improvement is very one sided view. and stats dont show whole picture, you cant measure people feelings, overall life hapiness just with wage numbers and new tech of today comparison with past.

>balkan history >location: germany

@thepopulationofkazakhstan1116

Жыл бұрын

As it always is

The greatest lie ever told is "the world" that expression often used to give the illusion that everyone is living our same privileges. The entire world is connected to the internet, this film launched in the entire world, all the world is thinking just like you. That's a great way of covering your sins to look like the good guy and forget that 2/3rds of the world are actually struggling to even survive.

@blede8649

2 жыл бұрын

It's basically that meme of [insert rock band here] world tour locations showing just the US, Canada, half of Western Europe, Japan and Australia.

@anthonya2251

Жыл бұрын

I want everybody to be rich however that means that some people need to be rich first

@MagicXRoads534

8 ай бұрын

Do you know what a social construction is?

@Jargoed

6 ай бұрын

what are you saying

@vkrgfan

6 ай бұрын

@@anthonya2251There is a difference between wanting to be rich and wanting societal equity so the quality of life would be accessible to everyone that obviously wouldn’t be possible because the greedy at the top control all resources. This is why we are in perpetual wars, there is a struggle between greedy elite class and oppressed class.

Communism is often perceived as depressing and grey due to stereotypes and historical events. However, these perceptions overlook the original ideals of communism, such as peace, land, and bread. The slogan of the French Revolution emphasized liberty, equality, and fraternity, creating a vibrant image. But the reality of capitalist societies often contradicts these ideals, with wealth inequality, exploitation, and limited freedoms. Communist societies faced challenges in their development, but they also brought improvements in industrialization, education, and social welfare. The perception of communism as solely oppressive and bleak ignores the complexities of its historical context and achievements.

@maxpavlovsky

7 ай бұрын

You're delusional.

@viktorias63

6 ай бұрын

Lol this is dump as hell

@aaroncabatingan5238

6 ай бұрын

Yes, and that's why thousands fled to the USSR and not the other way around.

@throwfascistsintopits3062

6 ай бұрын

@@aaroncabatingan5238 ...Yes? Many people actually did that? You can look it up? There is also this thing called "historical periods" and this statistic varied depending on what era you referred to?

@AlexTruenum

6 ай бұрын

@@aaroncabatingan5238 Good irony. But you are right, millions dreamt of escaping the USSR, and many actually did, saving themselves from that false equality.

Every single revolutionary movement's aesthetics has been that of the vanguard. It favors logic and practicality over extravagance. Whether it be the French Revolution's shift from late Baroque and Rococo to the relatively more simplified and modernized Directoire style, or the Communist revolutionary shift from Imperial-era conformism to the Avant-Garde like Proletkult, this has always been the case because the reaction has always favored arrogant excess over functionality, while revolutionary movements favor the opposite.

@BalkanOdyssey_

2 жыл бұрын

Very eloquently explained.

@theilliad4298

Жыл бұрын

it was harsh , anti-human , futuristic and mechanical. Impossible to see as beautiful in its environment , and honestly fits better as some type of alien base

@jessikablake4784

Жыл бұрын

In my current survival situation taking over this squat i gotta balance forces for my own sanity and sake of the power struggle Everything has to be super practical however that also comes with aesthetic awe and culture shaping The balance is important but very difficult to manage Im doing videos on the journey tho I really loved this videos brutal honesty and perception

@KevinJohnson-cv2no

Жыл бұрын

"It favors logic & practicality" coming from Marxism is hilarious

@n8zog584

Жыл бұрын

Hmmmmm, I feel like this had more to do with the local party leaders leanings than any specific communist ideology. I mean Kim Jong Un and North Korea have long erected numerous statues in the visage of their leaders and draped them in the finest of silk or indulged in Hollywood movies. On the other end of the spectrum, you find Ho Chi Minh, who often lived in the same (maybe slightly) better conditions his understudies and military men did. Secondly look into the TU-104 Pushkin crash. 16 Soviet admirals overloaded their aircraft with black market supplies and it subsequently crashed overloaded. Excess and ineptness does not automatically go away when a society is socialist.

There was also light, color and fancyness in socialist countries. However it should be noted that most popular design trends in these countries were copies of western ones. It woudn‘t be a stretch to say that many parts of the socialist aesthetic were invented in the West.

@BalkanOdyssey_

2 жыл бұрын

That is indeed true. There will eventually be a sequel to this video showing these countries in their true light and color.

@tzar9395

Жыл бұрын

Many parts of the artistic design trends follow regional and local traditions from before communist influence. Despite much of the effort made by communistic governments to destroy the outspoken artistic communities within their countries.

As someone who has been homeless for years in the west, Peace Land and Bread sounds just great.

@ratulxy

Жыл бұрын

I hope your situation has improved.

@mrttripz3236

Жыл бұрын

Habitation Issue.

@heyhoe168

Жыл бұрын

@@mrttripz3236 it will get worse in the upcoming years. There is no ussr to compete, which means distopian future for all, now capitalist, world.

@siyacer

Жыл бұрын

try being homeless in the east LOL. you're lucky

@maisa5943

Жыл бұрын

​@@siyacer you don't see too much homelessness in places like China.

Damn comrade, I want some of what yall got over there in former Yugoslavia! Between you and yugopnik, yall make up about 40% of what I watch and listen to on here. Thank you for this gem.

@BalkanOdyssey_

2 жыл бұрын

I'm very glad to hear that comrade, thank you for the support, it means a lot!

@simpa9994

Жыл бұрын

As a Croatian i respectfully "give" them to you. I dont want to wait 3 hours in line infront of a store to get coffe. Greetings from 🇭🇷

@kiwikemist

8 ай бұрын

​@@simpa9994In China you don't need to wait :) maybe if there wasn't a cold war that was manufactured by the West it would have been much better

@simpa9994

7 ай бұрын

@@kiwikemist Do you think China is an example of a "good country"?

@kiwikemist

7 ай бұрын

@@simpa9994 I've been there myself and many friends there. It's a good place to live, very safe, and changing every day. So yes. I've been to the countryside and even though it's not as developed, you can't expect a country the size of China to change itself overnight in 40 years. Compare it to India which is a similar size, and it is a dangerous shit hole, and you'll see the difference between the two systems.

*This* is a satisfyingly comprehensive presentation of Marxist concepts, comrade..I'm just delighted Yugopnik sent me your way! 🙏

@BalkanOdyssey_

2 жыл бұрын

Very glad to have you here comrade, thank you for the support!

Calling modern music mumbling nonsense is a pretty huge insult especially when the genre you seem to be implying has strong roots in revolutionary movements, anti-capitalism, and the working class struggle.

@kremmydaki2377

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

@KekusMagnus

2 жыл бұрын

pop music would have been a more appropriate target... but we have to agree that mumble rap is objectively terrible, and attempts to commercialise it are truly rock-bottom tier music

@SanFranFan30

2 жыл бұрын

@@KekusMagnus fair enough lots of "mumble rap" (which is a pretty nebulous term) with pretty badly done, but if the right artist comes along every once in a while they can construct legitimately though provoking messages. In my opinion the roughest part of "mumble rap" is the lyrical content but musically it often has the ability to be experimental and tap into a certain vibe that many people can relate to.

@therealpotpol4027

2 жыл бұрын

@@KekusMagnus Even "Mumble rap" has become a broad genre . ... Where people are getting are getting creative with it. There are no such thing as objectively bad or good.

@Lenninist-Hakimist

Жыл бұрын

To me I read mumbling nonsense as pop-music. Because that's literally what's on the radio right now in my car, just idiotic air heads yapping on about either unrequited love, how they're yearning for love or how they can be independent from love. And that's literally 90% of the music available in pop. Makes me vom 🤢

We could embrace the darker, more realist aesthetics when it comes to Marxism again. After all, Marx and Engels have built a world view, a philosophy of ruthless criticism against both the utopian idealist socialists, liberals and capitalists. Lenin himself often sounds as if pessimistic without being defeatist, and staunch without being idealistic and deterministic. There is hope of bringing about the future we theorize about, yet the struggle is not some romanticized pipe dream but hard work, ethics and discipline.

@LauritzenLucas

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, let's embrace it like its art but not let anyone live in a system like that again, it's just pretty to see.

@nietzscheanpeoplespower6078

2 жыл бұрын

@@LauritzenLucas The system itself was not just brutalism and rigor even tho it is portraited as such today, the perseption of the past is viewed truth lences of todays projektions and ideallism. There was Socialist realism soviet art movmant that tried to present the other side of human experiance by presenting workers, soldiers, regular working class scenary jet it to feels like it romanticised in a way the world can never truly be presented in art withot idealism. Imagine if someone from the outside of todays cultural hegemony saw a heappy go lucky capitalist comertial thinking that is what our experience trully is like. Art is an expresion, the culture, the class charaster, the intention is what makes it truly matter. There was atempts at building empiricism, art and proleterian cuture via education (Proletcult etc.)

@eduardstefanmalos3685

2 жыл бұрын

Commie art is sad and depresing and it sucks

@waltonsmith7210

Жыл бұрын

@@eduardstefanmalos3685 Soviet movies were pretty good.

@eduardstefanmalos3685

Жыл бұрын

@@waltonsmith7210 eeh a lot of propaganda

Very well done, this channel deserves so much more attention!

@BalkanOdyssey_

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@micosstar

Жыл бұрын

Same! ❤

@maxpavlovsky

7 ай бұрын

@@BalkanOdyssey_ You're a fucking monster. Communism is a crime.

I simply watched the beginning of the video, and I really like the analysis' fundamental structure there. Making an analysis of slogans (of which are superstructural in a society, representing its culture) is difficult but you seem to have made a good beginning part. I am sure you have your own readings and etc but on this topic I really like the Aesthetic Analysis from different Marxist schools. One small addition which may have some value; I think that the French Revolution's slogans at the time valued differently then they do today. Fraternity became liberal tolerance, liberty became the laissez faire thinking in our societies, equality became a merely constitutional and thats how it is regarded today. In contrast, many of the bourgeois revolutions (due to their progressive character) I think had materialist philosophies in their leading cadres. It is important to see (even though many Marxists criticise it as inconsistent materialism) the thought of French thinkers like Rousseau and from leaders of the revolution like that of Robespierre too. They saw the revolution as a partly historical necessity and were aware of their conditions and aimed at progress. It is really funny, considering your analysis too, what these slogans came to be in our days Anyway, great job man. Really.

@ihl0700677525

2 жыл бұрын

I suggest for you to read some literatures about the so-called "bourgeois revolution" to understand their actual position/ideology. "On Liberty" by John Stuart Mill is excellent for this topic. For the creator of this video: If you are not interested to learn about what "bourgeois ideology" actually is (i.e. about Liberalism and "Capitalism"), at least you should read the Wikipedia summary of it, so you can be intellectually honest. I could easily "debunk" this video by criticizing the *actual implementation* of Marxism/Communism (which "depressing and grey" would be the least damning thing about it) and compare it to the *ideal, dynamic, and vibrant form* of "Free Market Capitalism" (e.g. thru Friedman's or Hayek's POV), but then I'll be no better than you.

@Ailasher

Жыл бұрын

"Fraternity became liberal tolerance" Fraternity was a national unity. Nationalism. Chauvinism (this term literally appeared in the Napoleonic era, after the first French Revolution). Nationalism is another iteration of tribalism that arose only and exclusively under capitalism, thanks to the bourgeoisie. Nations are the outcome of this era, unlike ethnic groups, based on ethnic groups. Since the "God" culturally died, and the concept of a "sacred destiny, or a plan, for everyone in it's necessary place" died with him, the only explanation for the masses: why some should suffer endlessly while others endlessly enjoy life, why the lives and needs of some are still more valuable and more important than the lives and needs of others -- has become a nationalism.

@YaBoiBaxter2024

Жыл бұрын

​@@ihl0700677525 From what I've seen of your other comments, I don't think so.

@ihl0700677525

Жыл бұрын

@@YaBoiBaxter2024 Sure. You are free to think however you want.

@YaBoiBaxter2024

Жыл бұрын

@@ihl0700677525 Ironic considering how condescending and abrasive you've been towards Balkan Odyssey and other commenters recently 🤔

In some sense, the US understood historical materialism since they realized that revolutions happen from material conditions. However, it didn't work out well since even if my economy deteriorates partly because of my incapability at planning economy, an embargo from outside kind of helps me hiding this incapability behind the effects of the embargo itself.

@tomli9793

Жыл бұрын

No system is more right-wing than dictatorship. The future revolution must not violate the principles of equality and democracy, and a small group of elderly people must not be allowed to steal the success of the revolution and define what revolution is. Because it's like a church that believes that wealth is evil, selling redemption vouchers to wealthy people

This is a terrific video essay dude, book-marked it for sharing whenever I can. Thanks so much.

@Achrononmaster

7 ай бұрын

I think you covered more of the false "freedoms" than I've ever come up with in the moment debating liberals. So very well done, sir.

@BalkanOdyssey_

3 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Man, i've liked your videos for a while now (even though i can't fully comprehend everything), but this one really hit home for me. Hvala druze!

@BalkanOdyssey_

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the support!

I'm from Romania and if the communist party would have explained like you did ,then the Romanians wouldn't have been tricked by capitalism. Ceaușescu only said the truth before his regime collapsed but by that time no one believe him or the communist party. The problem was that the younger generation of that time never experienced what the generation of Ceaușescu experienced in their youth. În he's last speech he said something that at the time no one understood. He said "do you want to be unemployed?". Now, too many understand that word ,but back then people didn't comprehend and for some bizarre reason they thought that even in capitalism things will go on the same the only difference that they will enjoy the luxuries of capitalism. Of course we shouldn't forget the betrayal of some of the nomenclatura and secret services that in the chaos of the collapse they steal for themselves the money and the resources of the country and became the new aristocracy of the country .

@dobrasilaomundo.8086

Жыл бұрын

Make no mistake central economy simply doesn’t work, not that liberal capitalism works as well, but wake up the world have more options than two obsolete systems.

@ze3934

Жыл бұрын

Thank god they didnt have this video back then 🙏 ,its as you say…the idiots wouldnt have overhtrown him, and we’d be living in the same commie shithole

@Matei2575Cip

Жыл бұрын

Are you really unaware of the THOUSANDS killed by the socialism regime in Romania. All the intelectuals that were forced into concentration camps. All the heroes that made "Marea Unire" happen which were killed in prisons, are you really ignoring the extremly corrupt system and abusive towards the people. Is a regime where speaking against the wrong doings of leaders that are in higher positions will get you killed or imprisoned really better than the present one where its still corrupt, but you wont get killed and can actually slowly move in a better direction. 40 Million people died of famine in China in just 3 years and 360 MILLION abortions were forced during the one child policy for 35years. While other countries killed thousands because abortions were banned.... a flawed system what brainwashed millions

Your videos always impress me. Do you have a video on the Tito-Stalin split?

@BalkanOdyssey_

2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you enjoy them. I will make a video on that topic some time in the future.

@danger_design

2 жыл бұрын

@@BalkanOdyssey_ I would also like to see this video. I have often said that alienating Yugoslavia was perhaps Stalin's greatest oversight. It is hard as modern communists to see division in our history, at critical times when unity would have been more useful, but it's important for us to look backwards on these mistakes and learn from them.

Wonderful video! You've put the issue of western ignorance into words in a very easy to understand way. You've done a very good job!

@jordannewman177

Жыл бұрын

Wrong. Communists don’t know how to design cities or architecture. They don’t understand the importance of homogeneous culture, and the culture of structures. They aren’t very smart. Just take a look at Paris, then compare it to east Berlin.

@ohno676

Жыл бұрын

He is probably USAmerican

Super video! Tvoji videi su uvijek puni informacija I veoma zanimljivi.

@BalkanOdyssey_

2 жыл бұрын

Hvala ti, drago mi je da ostavljaju takav utisak!

Decadence and corruption will find us in any political system, changing the system just invites new people to exploit workers. There was a lot of strong words in this video that I don't exactly agree with but it's always good to have an extreme opinion in the opposite corner to invite real self reflection. Thank you for the video, apologies for any possibly harsh words.

@bentleydubravka2309

Жыл бұрын

W rizz

@helohel5915

6 ай бұрын

A system that promises to fix those that just so happens to be corruptible is better than a system that at its core is corrupt. Powerful men will always try to seize power, we can at least try a system that makes that harder. We just need to figure out a proper bureaucracy to stop corruption... but as long as humans are involved i am afraid that is impossible. You can always brainwash the voting populous...

@personeater747

6 ай бұрын

so we should give up and accept a system that does nothing for the workers?

@ElectricAlien577

Ай бұрын

Its true that corruption is possible in any systems. But there is a system that culivates corruption and greed above all else. Guaranteeing that the worst people have the most power, funneling all evil to the top of society. That system is capitalism.

Soviet union without any reason attacked here in Finland. And THE way their officers treated their own soldiers were truly depraved. So soviets absolutely practiced imperialist jingoism. And lets be honest one could newer speak freely against establishement like in west. And at least here in Scandinavia and Finland we have solved homelesness, without exploiting 3rd world countries. But all these videos discussed problems are Still in place and scales of more worse in places like China ,north korea etc. Marxism is supposed to improve these material conditions. Not regulate every single tought of citizens. precicely bcoz THE red guards purged THE cultural aspects in China, ppl there now have embraced 1000x Times more of things like fundamental class division, alienation, consumerism surveillance of every day lives. Moral decay, greed and worship of money etc. I remember how ppl during soviet era always wished to jump here in finland. Also ddr were the beacon of soviet union, but still ppl jumped in flows to west germany,not otherway around. We need to be honest in our analysis

@hajihajiwa

6 ай бұрын

oh yeah the ussr definitely was imperialist towards the end of its existence, no mistake about that and leftists will not deny such

Excellent video. Thank you for your work.

If you photograph "commie blocs" during the summer, it's not grey or depressing at all. Wonder why they always show you photos taken during the winter...

@BalkanOdyssey_

2 жыл бұрын

Slap a bit of color on those bad boys and you get genuinely beautiful blocks. Google commie block restaurations, they genuinely look lively and stunning.

@Dhumm81

2 жыл бұрын

So true. Growing up in the Midwest USA during the Cold War this seemed so obvious to me. When I was shown those "Cold, Grey, and Depressing" (aka "Winter") pictures I saw something much more familiar (but newer and more desirable) than the propagandists had intended for me to perceive.

@elizabethopoussm

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dhumm81 funny that eh? As someone who lives just on the edge of the midwest I can relate to that. I mean hell take a picture where I live in winter and it's a pretty similar effect all things considered

@annasolovyeva1013

6 ай бұрын

Winter pictures are nice sometimes (white shiny fluffy snow). Late autumn/early spring is raining weaks, no greenery, dark grey sky and a mud-pocalypse. Our cities unlike NY are VERY green, there's literally trees and lawns everywhere, and as a result of raining weeks and melting snow, Russian thick fertile soil turns into liquid sticky mud.

depressing and grey house is better than colorful tent on streets

The rapid industrialization of the USSR was largely spearheaded by imported expertise, technology and know-how. In fact, this was the case well before 1917, where most industrial enterprises were either foreign run or owned, with only the majority of the capital being local -- typical scheme for a resource-rich and labor-cheap country.

Absolutely love your analysis of events and storytelling. Greatly appreciated.

@BalkanOdyssey_

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

To be fair, while all the points you say are correct, lets not downlplay the massive amount of crimes against humanity, that took place in the soviet union during the 20s and 30s. While achieving all the things you mentioned, they too put a massive amount of their society into gulags, starved large parts of Ukraine and the general southwest of the union to achive their goals of industrializing and gaining ultimate control over these areas. It is important to acknowledge all the achievements of the soviet union, but lets not forget what happened in order for these goals to succeed.

@rickwong9049

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention Communism during its peak were later transformed into more 'chauvinistic' variants, like Socialism with Chinese characteristics.

@imjowsef

Жыл бұрын

This dude is chugging pinko kool-aid by the gallon. True believers will never mention Soviet crimes against humanity, nevermind its more minor short comings.

@vitaliitomas8121

Жыл бұрын

@@rickwong9049 that happened pretty much immediately tho. With russians being as title nation.

@yarpen26

Жыл бұрын

Didn't you watch the video? It was "necessary". Besides, wh's gonna cry after a couple hundred thousands imperialists?

@sargaming4603

Жыл бұрын

It's kinda crazy how the administration under which famines completely ended is associated with them, but the Russian empire which had consistent famines for hundreds of years seems like a more stable alternative to some people

I think the criticism of capitalism and the burgeiouse revolutions are spot on, and I completely and utterly agree on that part, HOWEVER I think the Soviet Union apologism is unessecary, fact selective, immoral and completely ignores ALL the atrocities, killings and brutal oppressions (and more) they commited in it's rule. First of all, the concept of "peace". Yes, it's true, they did want peace in any way shape or form, to rebuild the nation and increase the living conditions of the RUSSIANS living in the country. Why I say the Russians? Because, the argument completely leaves out the fact that just one year later, the Bolsheviks started invading independent nations of Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Poland and also crushed the Ukrainian independence movements. Therefore, I don't think it's fair to say that all that the Bolsheviks wanted was peace, they were not immune to the imperialist goals. Even later on, the invasions of Afghanistan, and the enforcement of the WTO and the SSR's in Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Ukraine against the will of the people, who tried to resist the occupation (yes, ILLEGAL OCCUPATION of independent sovereign states), and even making a pact with the facists to reach the imperialists goals of Russia. The concept of "land" - yes, the economic and ownership situation in the RE was indeed not fair and the workers didn't hold any power. HOWEVER, they way the concept was carried out was immoral and no better than any capitalist would do. First of all, any opposition to the ideology were sent to gulags and their wealth confiscated (the second part is OK, but sending them to the concentration camps is just wrong), and the land taken from them were used for the collectivisation effort. To add to the point, there wasn't actual equality in the USSR, especially in the republics, due to the massive levels of corruption in the leadership, and the members of the Communist party and the leadership reaping all the rewards, while the regular workers, while not in poverty, didn't live freely OR happily. In fact, being from the ex-USSR state from Lithuania, and hearing real life stories, you can easily see how rotten the system was - the poor families in the regions who could barely afford going to the cities to gain university education, and only the "best" getting some money to support themselves (how capitalistic huh), while the members of the Party would give themselves the best cars and live the high-life, however the "free" people who decided to speak out against the illegal occupation were detained, sent to concentration camps and imprisoned, and there are SO many stories like that. AND, the fact that you state that there was no homelessness is also only a part-truth - the USSR was an authoritarian state with little transparency, the numbers could of easily been manipulated, or the people who were could be declared "parasites" and detained Now, when it comes to defense spending, I think the argument really goes both ways. From one side - yes, the pressure from the west indeed added to the fact that the USSR had to spend a massive amount of resources to the arms race. HOWEVER, and it's important to point out, that the USSR was NOT immune to IMPERIALISM, having the entire Eastern European WTO block under it's wing, many times against the will of the actual people, and even workers living there (The Hungarian revolts, partisan movements in the Baltic states). THEREFORE, another important factor in the need to be in the arms race, I would argue would be the Soviet imperialism, to keep the countries in the WTO, and even the actual SSR's itself under the wing of the USSR, which was still essentially another form of Russian imperialism, just under another name, ideology and economic system. Obviously, it's also a complex affair, due to the fact that the Russian concept of geopolitics generally calls for a buffer state between the west and the Russian lands. HOWEVER, in the context of the Soviet apologism in this video, you could argue, that if the goal was really all the good things mentioned in the video, the Soviets could have curbed their imperialist goals and retreated to it's initial borders (which, I could then argue would not pose a significant threat to the USA, thus, no need to spend so much on the arms). Therefore, I would argue this is actually based in Russian imperialism, and the idea of being a world power, and not threats from the West, which only contributed to an extent. All in all, I could easily speak on this topic for a while, it just takes time to put all of the thoughts in one message, I think that the socialists and communists should do better and look for a better future, rather than excuse and defend a evil, authoritarian and imperialist state from the past, which, arguably did a lot of bad things and is no better than any capitalist state (even if there was some innovation or achievement). I think the arguments to defend the country is very fact selective, and ignores many of the horrors of that specific regime, only to suit the left-wing narrative. I also think this really helps the opposition of the left-wing, especially in the ex-USSR countries, because it seems like socialism and communism goes hand-in-hand with Soviet apologism.

@Spaibo

4 ай бұрын

Well said. Despite some actions being justifiable, they're still pretty terrible things to do.

@ThatBunniBoi

4 ай бұрын

Thank you. I wish leftists would do more explaining how to implement communism/socialism without the pitfalls of the previous attempts, and less simping for failed authoritarian regimes and preemptively attacking the west with false equivalencies. They make communism look way worse than anticommunists do.

While I fully agree with the critiques of western capital focused perspective, I think that it is important to recognise that authoritarianism shouldn’t be romanticised, in any system. Power should always stem from the collective will of the people. Great video though.

@BalkanOdyssey_

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely agreed. However, authoritarianism in the Marxist sense, i.e. the dictatorship of the proletariat, is these exact two things paradoxically combined. I recommend watching Hakim's video "Libertarian socialism with authoritarian characteristics" or reading Engels' short text "On authority". It sums up the absurdity of the term "authoritarian" very well.

Last week's quote was okay, but I liked the one you use this week a little better. Here's another great one: “It is difficult for me to imagine what "personal liberty" is enjoyed by an unemployed person, who goes about hungry, and cannot find employment. Real liberty can exist only where exploitation has been abolished, where there is no oppression of some by others, where there is no unemployment and poverty, where a man is not haunted by the fear of being tomorrow deprived of work, of home and of bread. Only in such a society is real, and not paper, personal and every other liberty possible.”

@shadowbannedaccont9479

2 жыл бұрын

This is a sneaky way to say no one should ever get freedom's. Poverty will always exist I'm not giving up one minor freedom because someone is poor wtf kind of stupidity is that?

@danger_design

2 жыл бұрын

@@shadowbannedaccont9479 if you can truly enjoy your freedom while people just like you are dying of starvation and medical neglect - I got news for you pal... It means you're a piece of sh!t 🤷🏻‍♀️

@LauritzenLucas

2 жыл бұрын

This is literally what happened with the Russian revolution and they got even harder, almost constant famines after that.

@grantgazi4864

Жыл бұрын

@@LauritzenLucas why not make things up, sounds fun!

@grantgazi4864

Жыл бұрын

@@shadowbannedaccont9479 poverty is a necessity of capitalism. One day it and it’s symptoms will be abolished.

Very good resume of many different socialist and communist ideas explained in perfect terms!

@BalkanOdyssey_

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it turned out well, thank you!

Also see how the film industry portrays socialist countries, particularly the USSR. They portray it as literally grey. The HBO Chernobyl mini series comes to mind. Pay attention to the lighting, color scheme and filters. Everything is a depressing greenish grey, worse than the Matrix.

@ryanchowdhary965

2 жыл бұрын

I actually liked that.

@ryanchowdhary965

2 жыл бұрын

The nature of that place

@michaelpelzek8882

Жыл бұрын

I mean when I watch any video from th Ukraine war it's always Grey and depressing looking. I don't think it's propaganda, that's just what the area looks like...

@annasolovyeva1013

6 ай бұрын

Saint Petersburg has 60 days of sunlight a year. So, 60 days a year it's a colourful baroque masterpiece. Seriously, 300 sq km UNESCO heritage site painted with colourful pastels and decorated with stucco. 305 days a year it's greyscale, depressing and raining for weeks non-stop. It's not architecture that matters. Take any masterpiece of architecture you wish. Make everything except for polished metal, plastic and glaze 10% vibrance. Polished metal etc 50% vibrance. Put it in front of dark blueish grey, and remove any greens around, except for fir. Only stems left. That's it.

Although I might not initially agree with some of the ideology/points explained in this video, I was really glad to learn more about this movement and way of thinking and also to find some common ground in which to stand, nice video mate loved it through and through! Will surely learn more about it which I really think is the ultimate goal, to learn more and develop critical thinking on one's own path

I see that there no Turkish subtitles (even in auto-translate). As a Turkish American person I want to get your message out to my fellow Turkish comrades, are there any ways I can create subtitles for you? It seems like KZread removed the subtitle editing option which was available to literally anyone that was able to view the video. It's only available for the channel owner seems like. Thanks a lot for the informative video, have a good one!

@comrademartinofrappuccino

Жыл бұрын

I told balkan oddysey about your proposal in this comment section. I hope that helps him notice it

@ardugaleen2231

Жыл бұрын

based...

@tzar9395

Жыл бұрын

Do you support PKK?

@siyacer

Жыл бұрын

komunistlar..

@Wither5000

Жыл бұрын

​@@tzar9395no

I have 1000s off my family pictures from "communisms" in Yugoslavia. I see nothing depressing and grey on them..totaly opposite ..smiled and happy people and lot off colors. I see nothing more annoying then someone who never lived here will teach you how everything was bad ...like 2 not trust my eyes,my memories ,my family..2 trust some stranger on internet comments who lives on other side off globe

@ercoleborgiano

2 жыл бұрын

Ikr. I can't help but smile at pathetic (typically American) anticommunist NPC's online teaching me about how supposedly dark, grim and unhappy my parents' and grandparents' lives in the Soviet Union were, when in reality they wanted for nothing, were happy and fulfilled and lived in large, happy families and none were any big shots in the party on something, but came from modest rural backgrounds.

@Diam0nD_007

2 жыл бұрын

@Heraclius III Do you live in a post-socialist country to be so confident about you claim’s truthfullness?

@ercoleborgiano

2 жыл бұрын

@@Diam0nD_007 As you could have easily inferred from the comment - yes, I do. Georgia, to be precise.

@Diam0nD_007

2 жыл бұрын

@@ercoleborgiano Oh, sorry, completely missed that. But to the point- I too come from a post-socialist country (Czechoslovakia), and I must say that my family had a completely different experience from living under socialism than yours did. Lack of basic consumer goods on a daily basis, destruction of nature and cultural heritage, complete mismanagement of both industry and agriculture (hence the shortage) and of course the crippling lack of individual freedom. Not even mentioning the international isolation enforced within the Warsaw Pact by the USSR, with any attempts to leave or merely reform the Soviet system resulting in a military invasion by the USSR (for my country it was in 1968). The mansions formely owned by rich individuals got seized and later transferred to influential party members. Corruption was rampant, with the black market filled with Western goods flourishing, while people had to wait for hours to get meat. For all these reasons, I don’t quite understand why people still defend the Soviet times nowadays.

@ercoleborgiano

2 жыл бұрын

@@Diam0nD_007 First off, salutes to Czechia and Slovakia. The image you've painted is grim, and I can't tell whether it has 100% ground in concrete reality or some of it is an emotional look at things, or whether what was grim was like that all of the time, except a few things that definitely were, such as closed borders (though politically it is fine at least to me personally). Granted, you cannot verify these things with what I've said for my part either, so that's fine. You can be skeptic about my claim, I can be about yours, we're on the Internet, for Christ's sake. As a last note, what I'd described did not only apply to my family. It applied to almost everyone, at least in the Georgian SSR. Like I said, my folks weren't big and the reason I gave them as an example is because they're the most familiar example to me. But it's not hard to measure public opinion on this. You go outside and you ask people a few very simple questions of socio-economic nature: Are you better off now? Has your life changed for the better? Can you afford basic living conditions as opposed to back then? The answer is a resounding no, because at that time we'd achieved something from nothing and now we're back to nothing. What we'd created was destroyed in 90's wars and banditism or just plain out looted and plundered by predatory parasites both local and foreign, during "liberalization" and various privatization schemes. Results? No industry, no social safety net, no human wages, no education, no army, no sport, no culture, no nothing... We are just a colony whose resources (including, most importantly, the best talent and the best brains) are shipped overseas. This is our situation as it stands. Rather different from Czechia and Slovakia, you would agree. So I hope that at least after reading this you won't be as surprised in the future when you see people sympathize with socialism. And by "socialism" I don't mean the Western soylibs, I mean ML - putting this out for any Westerners who might read.

This is certainly eye opening

"Commie blocks are better than homelessness" is probably the most rock bottom argument possible for terrible housing.

@chompythebeast

Жыл бұрын

Commie blocks are housing, homelessness is houselessness. It's pretty privileged to spit on the idea of housing people when so many lack a roof. Besides, in the USA alone we have 16 million unoccupied homes, and virtually none of those are "commie blocks"

@AshliBlattgold

Жыл бұрын

commie blocks were not as bad as you make them out to be. On the outside they may be ugly, altho I would personally would disagree, but on the inside they were pretty decent for the time

@FireOccator

Жыл бұрын

@@AshliBlattgold As someone who has lived in a commie block, they suck. Even older housing is better.

@AshliBlattgold

Жыл бұрын

@@FireOccator do they suck by today's standards? yes, I am talking about when they were built. Housing was a lot lower quality back then in general

@AshliBlattgold

Жыл бұрын

@@FireOccator idk what housing you are comparing them to

To be honest, commie blocks were nice

That section on freedom was actual gold, never seen someone articulate it better. The illusion of freedom ironically leads to an even more enslaved population.

How do you feel about Algerias primary position at the end of their revolution? We didn't accept communism in it's entirety because we believed they fundamentally misunderstood Religion, and saw it only from the position of the State, as a way to make the people indolent. But we still redistributed land, wealth and so on, only we gave it a Quranic pretext i.e "let not the wealth of the Treasury circulate amongst a few, this is a clear injustice (surah tawba), and we believed religion to be the only motivating force, and in the absence of religion the state would have to become extremely intrusive and install an artificial God through surveillance of the people, but a nation with a God by religion would already have that function being served by the God they believed in? I think this was a big mistake in Marxist theory, and it's one of the reasons of the necessity of a surveillance/police state in communist countries.

@legobros2020

2 жыл бұрын

communist countries lol

@nadjiguemarful

Жыл бұрын

@@legobros2020 do u agree that they completely misunderstood Religion? I think their dogmatic materialism makes them just as likely to be corrupt as any capitalist corporatist country

@AdobadoFantastico

Жыл бұрын

Hakim talks about Gadaffi's green book. You'll probably get something out of that. Especially the parts about any class taking over inheriting the characteristics of their predecessors.

Capitalists - *eww, communism bad* Also Capitalists - *Climate Change? Global Warming? Nah, that's fortune cookie nonsense!*

@YaBoiBaxter2024

Жыл бұрын

EXACTLY

@PanzerjagerTiger

Жыл бұрын

seems like communist china has not been dealing with that any better

@PeruvianPotato

Жыл бұрын

Because when the "professionals" keep making failed prediction after failed prediction since the 1960s, it naturally makes people more skeptical

@yarpen26

Жыл бұрын

Communists were the worst polluters in the world back when they reigned over half of the world. And even now, climate activism is a staple of the core capitalistic West with other countries following suit to some degree only out of Western pressure.

The fail of the Socialism wasn't in the fail of the country or realization of ideas, but in the ignorance of the rest of the world in understanding the real problems inside.

@heyhoe168

Жыл бұрын

Nope. It was fail of leadership. Elites got greedy and wanted western top-class live standards. You can see most post soviet capitalists to grow from "communist party" directly.

This vid should be renamed to 27 minutes of roasting western society

@BalkanOdyssey_

2 жыл бұрын

Might as well do it...

@bspgamingfan218

2 жыл бұрын

@@BalkanOdyssey_ yes do it

@isaacmaneirobr

Жыл бұрын

@@BalkanOdyssey_ Ok move to Laos or some shit like that now

To the geniuses saying that is because of climate: Cuba is also a grey and really cold place, I guess…

Came for the clickbait, stayed for the content You earned a sub, my Balkan friend Samo tako napred

This does not excuse the fact that the Soviet Union pursued imperialism itself.

@vitaliitomas8121

Жыл бұрын

Ah, yes, soviet union. Also known as russian empire in red coat

@chuckyyes

Жыл бұрын

gotta win somehow

I'm gonna get soo put on the watch list for watching this

@BalkanOdyssey_

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the club

The main point of the video is good, but we should be careful to praise the Soviet Union too much. And what's going on with that weird comment on (what I think was) Rap music?

@YouTubedoesntneedhandles

2 жыл бұрын

Least racist Serb.

@BalkanOdyssey_

2 жыл бұрын

There will be plenty of criticism of the Soviet model, no worries. Yet in such contexts and conversations, I find it important to nonetheless praise the achievements of socialist experiments in front of a broader audience with liberals and socdems who've never been exposed to them. Ruthless criticism would be the next task.

@jakobgiel2684

2 жыл бұрын

@@BalkanOdyssey_ fair

Excellent. Thanks for the education.👍🏻

Great video druže!

@BalkanOdyssey_

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you druže!

You should do a video about Romania , the only country in the history of Human kind able to pay its entire external debt , one of the most industrialized countries . And yes this during the cummunist regime .

@greatgamingchannale8257

Жыл бұрын

Ah yes the biggest shithole and worst dictatorship in Europe yes yes, taking on national debt was just another retard move.

@milkkorsmth

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it must have been a really good socialist country. So good in fact, that they SHOT AND KILLED THEIR PRESIDENT.

@russt8874

Жыл бұрын

​@Porky True. When he realised that and repayed it, the west didn't like loosing control over Romania, the rest is history....

The fact that socialist countries did house their entire population and did build millions of houses in couple of years is just amazing. It is an example for every 3rd world country.I really dont see the grey side. Because the pro west 3rd world country i was born in did not have this at all.

I mean people call commie blocks depressing, but have you seen the average American neighborhood? Rows and rows of copy and pasted houses. Like you're living in a human pet store or something. Not to mention commie blocks are made of solid brick and concrete, not that garbage dry wall that makes you feel like you're living in a cardboard box.

You have made me stop boleaving that the world is rainbows and flowers, and this world isn't perfect and will never will. I never saw the actual reason why every one hates Comunism.

@somedesertdude1308

2 жыл бұрын

cuz uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh

@Sirmatthaeus

2 жыл бұрын

@@somedesertdude1308 ah, thanc you for your help full information.

@scarzi6154

2 жыл бұрын

Because it wasn't good in any way

@OrlandMapper

2 жыл бұрын

No actual reason why everyone hates communism? Disgusting oppression? No freedoms? Persecution of people who didnt like communism? These are not reasons?

@Sirmatthaeus

2 жыл бұрын

@@scarzi6154 i personaly boleave that they tried to find an alternative to capitalism.

I think this video is BRILLIANT! Excellent job! I am going to share this with friends who keep claiming that communist societies are drab and unproductive. Keep up the good work!

@BalkanOdyssey_

2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad the video left such a positive impact on you. Thank you for sharing!

@anuragbiswas2214

2 жыл бұрын

That's why Communist China is the most richest country in the world right now? Because it's lead by Leninist Socialism. USSR was ahead of the USA in all fields during it's time, may it be science, sports, military strength, social equality, social justice, civil rights, philosophy, literature, education, social security. Literally everything. It was the second biggest economy of it's time. I know that Soviet Society was. It was great. Look at China today. China depicts everything USSR was. It's great. Socialism has worked and it will work. Haters gonna hate. We don't care.

@aleksm_

Жыл бұрын

@@anuragbiswas2214 no. its the richest country because its cheap af not because of communism

@tzar9395

Жыл бұрын

@@anuragbiswas2214China is going downhill really badly. It was when they dropped Maoist principles and opened trade to the Western world that they began to really succeed. Not that China didn’t develop at all under a communistic rulership, but they seem to really do better when free market principles are followed. Right now the housing market in China is devastating and their strict plans for families and housing are falling apart and destroying their rural diaspora.

@PeruvianPotato

Жыл бұрын

​​@@anuragbiswas2214 This is honestly hilarious to read since I've heard other socialists say that China "isn't a real example of socialism" and that it's actually a capitalist country. Also idk about you but I don't think people outside of cities fared well in Soviet life but that's just between me and you.

Well, post-communist blocks are pretty good compared to modern capitalist ones. As a guy from Poland I can see El Dorado for all pathological greedy developers, so they are building their shitty ghetto-like buildings almost EVERYWHERE! Zero urban planning, 10 meters between each other, NOTHING GOOD, why they are being sold?! While our post-communist blocks ( in polish "bloki z wielkiej płyty") are often very colorful, city discrits' urban planning is very good and actually, between those "awful" blocks we have lots of trees and green space.

Your best video yet!!!

@BalkanOdyssey_

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

prvo ide lajk na veresiju posle gledam kad završim nešto

@BalkanOdyssey_

2 жыл бұрын

Hvala unaprijed

Ok guys all liberty means to me is the guaranteeing of the pursuit of happiness key word pursuit. In this world we are not guaranteed to be happy we have to make ourselves happy. That’s all a country should do provide a way for everybody to chase their dreams and give incentives for them to achieve their dreams.

@blightybog7207

8 ай бұрын

​@@natdl691 I mean technically communism doesn't inhibit that goal? Not at a systemic level at least. You can still get stuff and own things, all it does is ensure your happiness doesn't trample on others happiness, and isn't trampled on BY others pursuing their happiness. If a factory is shut down, instead of of your being desperate to find a job, hit can take your time and ask around, as food, water, and housing, the absolute necessities, are there ready to access for all. It might not be lavish but your won't suffer while you strive to go be useful. Because ultimately I've never met anyone who didn't want to be useful. Homeless people, a guy bumming on my couch, myself when I was too depressed to get out of bed for a while. All of us WANTED to do things. I was lucky in that I managed to pick up steam, and get momentum to keep me moving again instead of just laying down and drying at the hopelessness of the world. But I recognize it was luck and more importantly my friends support.

@personeater747

6 ай бұрын

"provide a way for everybody to chase their dreams and give incentives for them to achieve their dreams." do you feel capitalism does this? even in the imperial core, the proletarians have no social mobility. a select few rise up, but the vast majority of hard workers are abused and thrown to the side. besides, how would communism prevent the pursuit of happiness? if anything, it helps the pursuit of happiness by abolishing the pursuit of necessities. If I dont need to scramble for my next meal, I have time to pursue real joy like starting a family and running.

@personeater747

6 ай бұрын

@@natdl691 we dont like hearing that people should be happy? do you think communism is an ideology of the pursuit of misery? unless your only joy in life is owning a factory and drinking coke, i dont see how communism holds you back.

*Great video.*

While I don’t believe in capitalism, this video is really an apologist for the worst of state socialist regimes. The ideas of the French Revolution were not a flimsy idea, and were the basis for going against tyrannical governments. Although you recognize the trouble path of communism, you still go towards the idea of vanguardism which was authoritarian and was the basis for the atrocities that happen. Disregarding liberal ideas and by extension human rights is what lead to the rationale for the atrocities that were committed under the Soviet Union. Now there were obviously many positives about it like with housing and welfare, but wanting to go back to strict top down government and one party state is not helpful to socialism. Instead of disregarding the ideals of bourgeois revolutions and the emergence of liberal human rights, we should see them as complimentary to the cause of socialism.

I'm 14 and this is deep: the video.

The analysis has merit -- to a point. It's achilles heel is reality. Strangly, migration almost always went from east to the west, not the other way around, let alone to communist or ex-communist countries. Maybe living in Tirana, Wuhan, or Omsk is better today than living in Kopenhagen, Rome, or Chicago, and always was. What would your choice be?

Ruthlessness, in securing the Revolution, is necessary, not desirable, but necessary for it's survival, as such, it makes sense that a political conservatism in the form of a defensive siege mentality is understandable, again, not desirable but understandable. I do think that the best analysis of the similarities of Bourgeoise Revolutionary actions as ruthless is the Trotskyist Alan Woods presentation on the English Revolution, wherein by the end he says that Stalin's actions almost mirror Oliver Cromwell"s, in suppression of Reactionary forces; he (Woods) doesn't seem to accept that such actions seem similar because of the nature of revolution, mostly because he's a Trotskyist and by definition has to hate Stalin, but the series is still useful for this fact.

@kremmydaki2377

2 жыл бұрын

You argue that ruthlessness is necessary for the survival of the revolution. From your comment I assume you believe it is a good thing. This would assume that communism is objectively better, both morally and practically, so ruthlessness could be viewed as viable. But here is a question. What would stop me from believing that facism or any ideology for that matter was inherently good and deserved the right to authoritarianism. One can not judge a philosophy as totally good or bad, and most people would agree that authoritarianism shouldn’t be implemented in a system that claims the good and betterment of us. Every, and I mean EVERY philosophy is doomed to be wrong, for the simple fact that it is made of humans. Humans are imperfect and make imperfect things. In the case of philosophies/political ideologies one would assume the humbleness and good thinking of the person, whether the rich or the poor. In a realistic world however people have personal goals and ambitions, something that makes any institution impossible to implement in the real world, at least on paper.( this applies for every philosophy, not just communism). So, ruthlessness is self-explanatory. You need it because the system is flawed and you know it, and so do the people, the proletarian, the investor, whoever the system praises. Authoritarianism is needed because humans need authority, but this doesn’t justify it

Damn it! Im subscribed

I gotta say, while I did agree with much of the principles of Marx, the legacy of the USSR and China still loomed over me, and while i think it's still important to be critical of these examples This video gave me a new perspective

You had alot of good points, but most were pretty heavy stretches. Sort of like doublespeak to paint it as poorly as possible. While some of it can be true, it depends heavily on the country you live in.

7:50 What terrifies me about hearing communists speak is their constant reference to the idea of fascism, a concept which is extremely difficult to define by its very nature, and which they vehemently oppose with violence. If you ask 10 communists what fascism is, you'll get 10 different answers. It's true that their definitions generally follow a common thread, but I fear that if a communist revolution were to occur, this vague concept would expand more and more, and under its umbrella, more and more ideologies and social groups would fall. I agree with almost everything presented in this video, but given the treatment of opposing ideological groups in previous socialist experiments, I cannot declare myself a communist. The treatment of religious minorities in the USSR, the treatment of the Cossacks, Ukrainians, and Poles, the Stasi as a secret police, the Berlin Wall - how can I look in the mirror and say that I will support a movement with such poor treatment of its ideological opponents? Say what you want about the capitalist system (which I consider immoral and a exploitation of the working class), but under it, one can live without fear of a secret police officer knocking down your door. Why aren't opponents of communism given freedom of speech? Why is a secret police force established in every previous socialist experiment? I want a communist country. I want the dictatorship of the proletariat. But I don't want a police state that criminalizes and persecutes me if I ever decide to change my mind. Someone more knowledgeable in the movement could address this fear. I want to convince myself, but I can't do it. sorry for the broken english, not my first lenguage

@pivomanslovensko

Жыл бұрын

In my opinion all of these horrible things exist in communist experiments because of the central authority of the state. The state is responsible for the vast majority of problems in communist countries. The state is inherently corrupt and parasitic. You could have all the benefits of communism by removing the state and embracing a democratic authority. Instead of having an authoriterian government ruling OVER the people you could have a decentralisrd government run BY the people. Destroying the chance of strongmen gangsters like Stalin and Mao from coming to power would make everything so much better.

@jaygyrobro6104

Жыл бұрын

Your English is good though. But I recommend using more paragraph breaks than single super-ultra paragraphs to make it easier to read. It would improve it further. I can handle this even though I prefer being known as a socialist more, but I will addressing this either from bottom top or at random. 1: Free speech. Well the question there is what do you mean by that? Is it absolutist speech, where even something that can raise mental instability and self-removal up, the more press-related speech where you can critique and argue against or just straight up dunk on things like government and other people? [which is generally a good benchmark to have.] The Lib version [In the USA a Libertarian might as well be civilization's Ghandi, and a Liberal is just a rightist extremist that loves self-defeatism and parading around as what it isn't.] which ultimately can be summed up as rules for thee but not for me? I believe the only valid one is the press level, because if you can call your neighbor a moron openly, and you can call out your government without getting thrown into a cell that is very vital for progress and improvement. But there are also many other versions of free speech, like selective speech which varies more so on group to group, individual to individual. In-groups therefore with that one can vary from the freeist all the way to if you disagree with their opinion the in-group cult will smite you. 2: Communist country. One problem with that. Communism is a end goal philosophy which is inherently anarchy. It is by definition cashless, state[government]less, and classless. Low level examples are like the Hawaiian communal living societies, hunter-gatherers but communists retain tech, etc. [For that one, see something like the joke of fully-automated luxury communism, which has today now been made into a legitimate position as much as how Posadism was a meme then turn reality. That one is literally just "We cannot do anything, we will wait for the world to fall and then we will try to implement."] Because there would be no government, technically there is no nation/country even if you still displayed a border on a map. Now of course you can have a communist party, which end goal is this, but operate on various different pick and choose, or full on extremes [descriptions of a type of socialism. I.E taking socialism literally and the only thing you do is collectivize private property and that's it.] of socialism. The economic system utilized, and at times referred to as a transitory form, in attempt to achieve communism. [Of which most of every nation under it was a soviet republic AKA council republic or variant of council republic, A union but now leading a state that may or may not also be a council, or random types of actual government systems. The majority of which rather than following the writings and thus knowing material conditions, mimicked success states rather than what their environment and resources would allow. Which is why several states that actually fit criteria had bad implementation.] You can have a country, which is socialist, and a government that is a brand of democracy or even absolute democracy, but you cannot have a communist country. You can have a coalition of varyingly independent as well as autonomous nations that are socialistic, but you cannot have these concepts as a communist since the end goal is the arbitrary titles are abolished. 3: Dictator of the P This is what causes the secret police. Their job is to find people that do the equivalent of masquerading as a title but they don't mean it [I.E see people who say they advocate for free speech then behind the scenes they actually want it abolished, they only say they wanted it just for their party to win.], hostile forces trying to corrupt the system like spies for example [Which can get dicey. I.E an actual informant could see randoms walk into the state, pretend they are the spies instead to cover the informant's trail, and thus if something bad happens then they can use it against the state.], those that attempt to readvocate for things like indentured servitude or inventing up fake consent to work, etc. Influence like say, alt-rightist neo-Ns can thus cause the populace to sway via kneejerk reactions or basically emotional arguments and strip rationality from these emotional arguments, to then enact abhorrent faults onto the populace. You would also have them basically dunking down on anything that qualifies as an exploiter. [Billionaires leeching money off of people for no reason, international forced emerald mining people, those resisting the removal of privatized assets, things like that. Albeit if say, you had a billionaire that wasn't exploiting and did magically earn their money, they would probably be taxed until lowered to the millionaire bracket or the normal person, and thus left alone when the issue was reallocated.] Therefore, to support the people's or just worker's dictatorship against hostile forces from re-enacting horrors on humanity, you also support things like this. But you can do things like make it public, regulate, or even advocate for it's abolition especially before it can be weaponized. Under normal circumstances, you wouldn't be hassled with unless you actually committed a moral failing or something, and this is more influenced by societal norms, standards, expectations, and other cultural faults than leadership is. So to resolve the issue, you need to fix the people, or remove all the SP, and replace the departments with trained individuals which support a more feasible or lenient society instead. An absolute restructuring. 4: Freedom of speech for opponents This is something that can be done, technically nothing in the way. The question is, do you want, since it is more youtube friendly, a neo-national-socialist to be able to have a influential platform inside your community? That tends to be the argument usually depicted. For example look at the U.S.A's trans community, they merely want to exist, but there are people which continually adds onto mental destabilization and self removal, then use those statistics as an argument for why other's shouldn't do it to while hidden under the guise of "caring" and from "a place of love." This enabled a large community to exist which sole purpose was to raise the crime rate against that community, and then Floristotzka exists. Or the real name, Florida. I do not think it is more so a question of why don't they get free speech, but more so a combination of should they be platformed combined with criteria. I believe it is more accurate to ask "if they are doing/saying something wrong, does it actually fit into a permanent criteria that makes action against it beyond on the individual on individual level valid?" Or essentially "If Fred called Bob insane, is that valid enough for action?" and ordinary the response is no. If there is more context like say, "Fred shanked Bob and then called Bob insane" the answer would be yes. Now of course, you could get a neurotic voted in by people, and they were really good at playing a character. And now you can have them reinvent something like a gulag, which is what the problem is. [Of which these prison-towns were inherited from the Tsarist regime to keep in mind, but I think there were some made anew before abolishment later on.] 5:Facsism Yeah that is bad. But there is two versions you can stick to if you want instead which most of the onliners use. Either: A nationalist - ultranationalist prideful eugenicist with anti-race sentiments Or A authoritarian or even Totalittarian nationalist with mythologic state, anti-race, Eugenics, victim mentality complex sentiments. Those tend to be the repeats, the rest is more so like Germany trying to turn everyone into a target. The good news is, that if there is a group, community in general, etc that has a vague understanding of it, then people can join in and gradually restructure the beliefs back into the safety range again. But whether or not they're legitimate is debatable. Part I

@jaygyrobro6104

Жыл бұрын

Part II Conclusion: Now the thing to note about how the left operates is that it is built upon ancient writings as well, ordinary starting with Marx and Engels, going to Lenin, then you have all the other ones. They are inherently a self-reflecting and progressive gig. The writings above were examples of conversation, theory building, environmental conditions, changes needed at the time such as with Lux, etc. And in terms of political operation it is hyper diverse. Not only can you go with an as-stated view, but you can also pick and choose aspects based on the conditions available. For example Socialists and Communists both have Posadists. This is effectively a Marxist-Posadist take with religious tones that wants to terraform the world after a nuclear war into a communist or socialistic paradise. It takes inspiration from the mind that created it, Marx, bits of Lenin, the doomerism of Stalin, half of Mao with his "with Chinese characteristics" gag, and Trot. Basically if we had to go with purist descriptors and hypothetically assumed the beliefs were fixed and one HAD to choose to be one or the other rather than the fluid dynamic that the entire system is by default it would be something like this: [We will go with modern limitation though, not every type.] Marx: The original polymath. Pretty much presented a number of the main things, that religion was the opium of the masses [In that case refers to the "happiness" effect but also mentions that control mechanisms like a cult can make it dominate the believers.], and was the main bulwark of the theory in public consensus. Generally, most newcomers literally start as this and it doesn't really mean anything beyond total overthrow of capitalism. Marxism-Leninism: Was a big believer in Scientific Communism, which is the theory, application, planning, etc on societal changes, it went beyond economics. It also involved understanding of how an economic system can directly affect other conditions including the political environment. The USSR, Cuba, eastern Bloc, Etc were all a derivative or M-L. They believed also in the concept of when all else fails then higher levels of violence than normal [like protests, strikes, etc.] were to take place or inevitable. Whether Lenin actually was or not, like the joke of Trot their followers tended to not only be anti-religious [the habits/rituals, proselytizing, in-group standards.] but in general varying misotheistic to state-athiestic. General anti-theism sentiments. And this carried over. Now of course there is religious M-Ls, but the OGs were pretty against the norm of it. Nowadays online if anyone refers to themselves as an M-L a Lib calls them a tanky. Which we will cover at some point too. Marxism-Leninism-Maoism: The combination of "with chinese characteristics" with normal M-L theory. Basically we just tacked on land reallocation aspects, anti-landlordism, explore further into what a petty-bor is, and going full out with the armed response. Generally the originals/OGs didn't care if validity was achieved only that revolution happened. [So imagine someone Bob didn't like, and then they just threw them out a window just because of it.] Modern day presentation however, it focuses purely on the combination of Marxist economic theory, Lenin's scientific conundrum, and dealing with what even capitalism calls a menace known as a landlord. The biggest victim mentality CEO ever. Pol-pot: The joke of a maniac that all categories make fun of. Basically just overthrow a gooberment, then pull a national-socialist on your own people for no reason. Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism: This is basically the concept ultimately of state-centric revolution. In translation like scientific communism, it stands for instead of international revolution or global like originally intended, it focuses on the intensive rapid industrialization, reallocation, and militarization of a state in defense against hostile forces. Posadists involve elements of M-L-S in the fact that in their beliefs if the world collapsed that they would implement rapid industrialization of remaining factories and infrastructure to make a bare-minimum living threshold of a community, and then use it as the basis for humanitarian aid as a PR stunt to spread global revolution or something. It also involved relocations, thorough systematic yeeting of religious institutions, and overwork initially. Though strangely enough, it did focus on retainment of other cultural aspects and for a time varied degree of representation. So take that for what you will. Marxism-Trots: They are the other joke. Trot himself has writings on the idea of global revolution and achievement by any means necessary, but is more known for getting voted out, and screeching about Stalin. They are only known for their new-age fanbase rather than actual writings. Which is basically tech-illiterates, still using news papers, and they are the internet funnymen that make up most of both the crap webdesign pages, as well as their general dismissiveness of achieving class consciousness through means like the internet and prefer more ancient methods like newspapers and walking in on meetings than proper conversations, using the internet, etc. A different less dumb version can be found in south america however. Tanky: A tanky is in reference to the massacre that was Hungary I believe. A tanky is pretty much as militant socialist, or communist, which is an apologetic for forced military insertions even into allied lands, and justify the concept of overruling the people's say within Hungary. In modern terms however, a Tanky is a person that is hyper-militant, supportive of permanent or deep control, and advocate of general unjust extremism. However, people literally just on the internet use Tanky as a dismissive insult.

@makhnothecossack4948

Жыл бұрын

​@@jaygyrobro6104 Though I need to fix the fascism a bit: the only fascist country that had actually eugenist politics was the Third Reich, Nazi Germany. Rest of fascist countries (Spain, Italy, Romania, Hungary) were just ultramilitarist and -nationalist countries with irredentist tendencies because of nationalistic point of view on history. Though most of the fascist nations did give up Jews to Hitler, but that was mainly because they were extorted to do so. For example until the late 1930's, in Italian fascist party there were many Jews as members.

@jaygyrobro6104

Жыл бұрын

@@makhnothecossack4948 I probably should have looked it up a bit more then lol. I mostly just observed that state combined with the different groups we are stuck putting up with here since it was the fastest and more easily known without a few days of constant citing and online studying. Though it is interesting how they all similarly act so insecure and mindlessly invasive. One such group we have to put up with this dumb extremist Christian cult that wants the eradication of any community that isn't a white patriarch that swallows God's glory. They basically use the same arguments but on different targets. This seems to be a trend, so I threw in eugenics speak because it all compounds back onto it, even if it isn't ethnic-centric at all. Another for example is the NFIB which is like this, but they do accept groups like the Jewish community if they are converts, but depending on the sect it also means they get treated as a tertiary class of citizen. In others they don't care what race you are, you just have to be "normal" and heterosexual. In another anything that isn't hyper patriarchal and societally standardized as a backwards hostile hyper individualist [generally for control and isolation.] gets a threat of some sort. I continue seeing similar sentiments, arguments, etc. The wording is replaced, on or a different group regardless of if it is tied to a race deal or settlements, or it is basically the most limp-wristed iteration of "as long as I don't have to see it" followed by intentionally placing them in a scenario to constantly see it. Though there is a leadership party that doesn't do the eugenics argument conventionally. They focus more so on the cruelty and legislated big G instead of the actual eugenics. Florida under Ron De Guantanamois and his con-republican goons while they do all the same stuff like book burnings, threats, marginalization, etc, they make more money if they keep them existent just enough to whine about, but still able to do surface level removals. They are more so a weirdo with a fanbase that follows the same Christian nationalist beliefs as the MAGA bois. Basically, making up books on how to a real [insert arbitrary title here], why things like socialism bad, and generally flinging their firearms around while saying a random group that isn't a white nuclear family following strict anti-human norms and taboos, is equally as weak, insignificant, and unworthy of attention as they are a pure societal menace that must be "dealt with" as it were. Considering that, I automatically did the bad-guy thing and did a simplified generalization on the matter for clarification. Though I presume that if I looked into it beforehand as much as I do technology, then I might not of have gotten it that wrong. I am entirely lacking in knowledge about Spain and Romania in the era as a whole though.

Would like to commission artist to draw the 1917 October revolution in color. Of course gonna save up for it.

I just find it so hard to believe that capitalism is the best system that human beings can possibly come up with. If so, Im not impressed. That would be a more depressing reality than any commie block. I live in America. I walk past homeless beggars in the street every day. It really brings me down. I cant be happy with so much misery around me. Proponents of capitalism at the end of the day are trying to tell us that we HAVE to keep that homeless man on the street, that to do otherwise would burn the world down. It's really an argument to accept human suffering that doesnt seem that far off from the caricatured idea of socialism in westeen propaganda. I find it so hard to believe that things absolutely HAVE to be this way and we have no choice. And look at the glorious fruits of our society: alienation, mass shootings, social strife, stalled politics, environmental degradation....the list goes on.

@vitaliitomas8121

Жыл бұрын

Looking back, it's better that everything else that was tried Already seeing "socialism/communism hasn't been tried"

@DrWoog

Жыл бұрын

"Hiveminde markets" vs a political overlord(s) who always knows better than the people whats best for them? Though choice. Perhaps a mix like social democracy maybe? Most peple don't like communism, might be as it's easy to corrupt and always has been corrupted vry fast.

Amazing video! I still find it hilarious where like 2 months after subscribing to a new history/science channel they start making socialist content

@BalkanOdyssey_

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the support! Well, I guess the dominoes are falling quicket than you can catch them with your eye.

@Joee1530

2 жыл бұрын

@@BalkanOdyssey_ true

some of the BEST shit on the interNet!! well done, keep up the good werk!!

The soviet economy actually experienced a "boom" in the late 80s and 90s. Why wouldn't they upgrade the "depressing" parts of the Soviet Union if they had the money? The Space Race was one thing but I'm sure over 2 trillion dollars could do the job.

@milkkorsmth

Жыл бұрын

That's weird, the 80s and 90s was when Gorbachev was in office. It's weird because Gorbachev opened soviet society yo western culture. Hmm very weird indeed.

@austria-hungary4981

Жыл бұрын

@@milkkorsmth Gorbachov allowing Western culture was the number one reason why the USSR fell in 1991 because of the bourgeois propaganda that was spreading. The people started demanding for secession and "liberty" (allowing capitalists to rule the working class) and when the dreaded Yeltsin came, he smashed the USSR. Then the fascist Putin (Adolf Hitler) came and started making propaganda about the Russian master race, calling all other Slavs inferior, that Russians are the only Slavs, and that everyone else is a Western spy. With that, he would go on to commit genocides in Ukraine and abduct hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian children forcing them to speak Russian just like the Tsarist regime did in the 19th century.

@vitaliitomas8121

Жыл бұрын

@@milkkorsmth the fun part? He was trying to keep the union in one piece. The only good thing he did in his life is failure to achieve his goal.

@milkkorsmth

Жыл бұрын

@@vitaliitomas8121 totally agree. The only good thing he ever did was stop the ussr. Russia couldve been a good country if it wasnt for the only two leaders they ever had.

I am from Slovakia, living in Czech republic. I will tell you one thing what we, Czechs and Slovaks, think about our communist past. It is true that thanks to the communism we had roads, we had residential blocks, we had industry. But we are 100% sure that we would achieve that even without communism and socialism. In many ways, we would even do it better! After 1st world war, when Czechoslovakia was formed, the country was formed from nothing and just in few years its industrial might was 8th biggest in whole Europe. And we didn't need communist propaganda for that. There was no need for communism in our country after 2nd world war neither. We would achieve the same goals even more efficiently - and without thousands of people being persecuted, executed and bullied for their beliefs. And our country wouldn't be traumatized by soviet occupation for generations to come. My aim is not to say that western liberal democracy is superior. It has its flaws and in many ways it has similarities with its communist counterpart (as it was very well depicted in the video). I just want to emphasize, that it can achieve the same achievements - minus the psychological trauma and dystopian dread of living in communist society. And the best part about liberal democracy is that we can actually talk about these things without fear of our kids suddenly being kicked out of school because of that :)

@thorthewolf8801

11 ай бұрын

No, your claim is that western liberal democracy is superior, and you are 100% right about that.

You are totally wrong! One's freedom cannot be achieved at the cost of the freedom of the others. That's no freedom, that's privilege.

Phenomenal assessments strikingly well articulated.

@BalkanOdyssey_

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

At first i was like ohh great this video will explain the flaws of both ideologies, but boy was i wrong....

It is not so much Communism as it is the human condition. You could probably use the phrase "it wasn't real Communism" for any ideology - "it wasn't real Fascism", "it wasn't real revolution" for the French revolution, "it wasn't real Capitalism" and so on, because any ideal that we think of in the sphere of the Ideas/Platonic shapes has to somehow be implemented and actually work in the real world. This world that we have to live in, it is mostly governed by chance and chaos theory, and the Ideas are implemented by beings that are genetically 98% chimpanzees. Noble apes might try to implement noble truths, but the actual result is often poop. It is bound to go horribly wrong. It is like giving higher math to a Caligula - imagine if a Caligula or Nero had nukes. When you live through the Communist system and it's wreckage as I have in most of my adult life, you get to see it's failings on a micro-level. Yes, there was housing, but it varied depending on social class. Those nearer to the party core had better homes, a weekend villa somewhere nice, but not so nice if they were further from that core, and housing got progressively worse as you climbed down the social ladder. Far from being a classless society, our Bulgarian, Communist society was actually very stratified, and the CV was everything - if your granddad, e.g., owned a shop before the Red army rolled in, then you didn't get such a good housing, your kids didn't go to the very best schools, if they happen to win a musical contest, the prize will go to the kids of some redder communist, and so on. You can get housing, but the walls aren't perfectly straight, neither are they at right angles, the floor has denivelation and relief, causing all sorts of problems. You had to buy your car at prices that seem low now, but you had to have the cash, and if it broke down, there was one service in the whole capital, and the technicians there asked for bribes the moment you passed through the door. Then you had to wait for months. So you see how the ideal Communism breaks down when you stop speaking in absolutes and actually have to implement it. Imagine that, instead of making KZread videos, you had the cash to get an actual company going - in an ideal world, you would hire several people and produce goods and services for a profit. You open the office, and get things rolling. But on the next day, some colleague is down with the flu and you have to think of a way to replace him for this very urgent project, than some other woman in the office can't work because her husband is having an affair or she's just so brittle that she can't work on some days, and so on, you see how Capitalism breaks down when you get into the actual doing of the thing. Neither ideology is perfect nor are the people that adhere to it. But a reasonable human should choose the lesser of two evils. One has produced more poverty, both have produced tons of suffering, so let's chose the one that produces more wealth (in Europe at least) and let's not delude ourselves that we can "make it work and it will be the real thing". There is also the issue that capitalism is very rough and competitive in the US, leading some people to think that it has to be abolished altogether in favor of communism, while in fact it is just one flavour of the idea. EU capitalism mostly has a social safety net, which seems to be lacking in the US, so not that many people here are so harsh on it.

@thorthewolf8801

11 ай бұрын

Brilliant essay.

@vectoranvil

11 ай бұрын

@@thorthewolf8801 Thank you.

I'd love to live in a grey communist world if it meant I would never have to listen to see advertising again.

@BalkanOdyssey_

2 жыл бұрын

You are speaking facts my friend...

@rajashashankgutta4334

2 жыл бұрын

Then don't listen to advertisements

@georgekostaras

2 жыл бұрын

@@rajashashankgutta4334 sure, I’ll wave my magic wand and make all the advertisements on tv, games, buildings and real life just vanish

@modkip25

2 жыл бұрын

@@rajashashankgutta4334 ok, just going to cut my ears off i guess. better gouge out my eyes too !

@austria-hungary4981

Жыл бұрын

In Soviet Union, advertisements listen to us

This guy translates my thoughts into words.

Shoutout to the Kulaks for having the land to make the Revolution possible.

I noticed a difference. You bothered to translate Lenin's slogan into English, but not the Frenchensteins' slogan. Why? Why do people insist on using French words unaltered in English even when the Anglicized versions of French loan words are more commonly used?

@naomistarlight6178

Жыл бұрын

A lot of people use the un-translated version of the slogan in English, possibly because the words are still recognizable to English speakers.

@mah9582

Жыл бұрын

because no english speaker understands cyrillic goddamn

@calitaliarepublic6753

Жыл бұрын

@@mah9582 I don’t understand French. People who use French words unaltered in English are being pretentious. God dayum.

@haruhisuzumiya6650

Жыл бұрын

@@calitaliarepublic6753 I'm pretty sure that it's a target audience thing.

@austria-hungary4981

Жыл бұрын

@@calitaliarepublic6753 Im sure that the french words are clearly understandable. They literally spell Liberty, Equality, and Fraternity so there is no need for the English version because its not that hard to decipher it.

Why are we pretending that "freedom" is defined by capitalism? They don't own that word. The wolf in sheep's clothing does not define the sheep's appearence ffs. We all know that capitalists will pretend to be virtuous while being the opposite. Freedom is not consumerism, freedom is not the capitalist's fertile ground. Your entire video is on how freedom has been so effectively co-opted by the imperialists that you are agreeing with freedom being their word. Freedom/Equality/Fraternity was a slogan to strive for and it is painfully obvious that it has been co-opted.

@Matei2575Cip

Жыл бұрын

the whole channel is just eastern propaganda probably its full of flawed arguments

tysm for talking about this

I never understood wjy people thought they looked "ugly" they looked "pragmatic, functional, responsible" to me all this nonsense "extravagant, luxury, extra" bs comes alongside drab shanty towns as a packaged deal which is far more ugly

@thatunicornhastheaudacity

8 ай бұрын

The USA has a large industrial prison sector that is vaguely reminiscent of communist housing blocks. Grey concrete buildings remind people of prison. Plus luxury and flashy culture is a status symbol used by capitalist elite to keep the classes divided and subservient to the rich. People don't realize that we still live under feudalism. They flashy and shiny dreams keep them distracted.

Good video, bad opinion on the "mumbling", there is lots of excellent music that has come from Americans in Atlanta that shouldn't be dismissed like that just because of their accent

@BalkanOdyssey_

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. The mumbling part I think you misunderstood. I do not mean rap or any specific type of american music. I mean commercialized Balkan trash music.

@Harry-hf5hv

2 жыл бұрын

​@@BalkanOdyssey_ Ah okay, I definitely misunderstood, I havent heard much outside of the classics that get played in Greece, so I assumed wrongly I was just making sure anyway, because a lot of online (typically conservatives) unfairly trash black people from Atlanta & Florida's music Regardless, keep doing what you're doing 🤝🤝Your video on the journey from Germany to Bosnia is one of the best political videos I've seen on youtube

@austria-hungary4981

Жыл бұрын

@@BalkanOdyssey_ Oh yeah. Who would want to listen to capitalist music? I mean if we want Balkan music to be good then I don't wanna hear any pro-fascist, pro-ustasha or pro-chetnik phrase because it sickens us to the bones. When stupid people like Milosevic, Tudjman, and Izetbegovic are hailed as heroes, historical negationism grows ever stronger and then people start denying the death count of the people in the Jasenovac (200,000 - 300,000) concentration camp by the NDH as well as the number of Muslims killed by Chetniks in 1995 in Srebrenica (8,372). Smrt Fasizmu! Sloboda Narodu!

i would add that calling them "commie blocks" is a misnomer. they should be"capitalist blocks". they are what communist marvels of urban development come to look like after 30 years of systemic neglect, on top of other 20-30 years of inhabitance. the socialist system would have renovated or outright replaced the obsolete and dangerous buildings. when they were constructed, they were a marvel. beautiful, elegant, colorful, with all the ameneties of urban life. the safest blocks in Bucharest (who is currently living in fear of a great earthquake) are not those new blocks built by the free market adventurers, but commie blocks made after the last great earthquake. because we made them with our interests in mind, not cutting costs to maximize profits. nowadays, save for sparse efforts from city authorities, the blocks lie there, grey and decrepit

@joris4255

Жыл бұрын

they were built in the 50s, during khrushchev, what u see right now IS renovated :D "when they were constructed, they were a marvel. beautiful, elegant, colorful, with all the ameneties of urban life" this is just absolute bullshit their walls where thin and did not retain heat, most of them were barrack style buildings with shared kitchen and toilets. " the blocks lie there, grey and decrepit" it was always like that the idea was never to renovate them but build as much as possible

@BalkanOdyssey_

Жыл бұрын

Perfectly well said, thank you for the comment.

@joris4255

Жыл бұрын

@@BalkanOdyssey_ >pseudo intellectuals circle jerking their "well said" ideas 😁 would u ever be actually open to a real time debate ?

@InsufficientGravitas

Жыл бұрын

@@joris4255 Commie blocks came into being at a time when many western nations were still having slum clearacnces and filled a similar role to the repacment hosing put up then. They were designed to be quick to build and compared to the previous situation prior, they were practically luxurious. Going from no running water or electricity to both is

@joris4255

Жыл бұрын

@@InsufficientGravitas no commie blocks weren't supposed to be a replacements houses for lower class, second i don't think western countries were having slums like you express them to have, there definitely was just not on scale

8:07 Labor unions are essential to any capitalist country, to keep their powerful in check, and to keep them from becoming a dictator.

@ovo2332

6 ай бұрын

Nah, labour unions serve to give privileges to skilled workers at the expance of less skilled ones

@rumpraisin

5 ай бұрын

And communist countries. Government attempted in the early 1980s to destroy the Polish trade union Solidarity through the imposition of martial law .

There was a bulgarian chemist that found a way to use water as fuel,but the US tear down his research center in 1989 to keep the oil companes rich and asked for his research so when the oil is gone to be praised as heroes.The guy said that all his research is memorised in his head and took it to his graeve.

@saeedk7537

2 жыл бұрын

Lol no.

@LexYeen

2 жыл бұрын

Got a name for this guy? Location of the research center? C'mon man, this is amateur hour conspiracy thinking.

@juanfranciscobrizuela

2 жыл бұрын

It runs on water, man!

@lurky6439

2 жыл бұрын

@@LexYeen Ilia Valkov or Yull Brown he find a way to burn water and somewhere in the 90's said to my father that from there found how to use water in regular combustion engine

@kingassasin6031

2 жыл бұрын

Yea no way that story is real

Dear admin and great Yugoslav people, I have 2 questions that only you can answer: Q 1. In one room there is a Serb, a Croat, a Bosniak, a Sloven, a Montenegrin, and a Bulgarian/North Macedonian and they don't know each other and nobody has talked yet, can they tell each other apart by their looks? If the answer is yes and some of these nations look the same and some different, which are identical and which look different? Q 2. In another room, there is a Serb, a Croat, a Bosniak, and a Montenegrin, they don't know each other's names and nationalities and they don't know each other at all and have zero information about each other. If they start talking to each other about something without asking for any information, can they tell each other apart by their accents? If yes, how long does it take? I mean they will differentiate the accent immediately by hearing some words or sentences, or do they need to have some minutes of discussion to find the differences?

@slippulter8053

2 жыл бұрын

For Q1, we can’t tell each other apart reliably, but it’s going to be more accurate than just random guessing. For Q2, most of the time we will recognize accents in seconds, and tell each other’s place of origin by that. So note, there is more than one accent per republic/country, there are many sometimes radically different accents even in the same country.

@MikaelGymBro

2 жыл бұрын

@@slippulter8053 Thank you so much man, I appreciate it! Yes, I know about the differences between the dialects and accents of Serbo-Croatian-Bosnian-Montenegrin language even inside Serbia and Croatia and had checked that a long time ago on Wikipedia. I just didn't know how different they are and I got my answer (in seconds). I remember I was watching Karadzic's capture documentary and a man from the Serbian intelligence service said: ''Radovan Karadzic speaks in Bosnian accent but when he was Dragan Dabic he spoke in Belgrad accent''

@ministryofinformation2067

Жыл бұрын

What do you mean Bulgarian/North Macedonian? You do realize that these two countries are different nations and that there is no such thing as North Macedonian and only Macedonian.

@MikaelGymBro

Жыл бұрын

@@ministryofinformation2067 I'm not sure if Bulgars are Slavs or Turkic but I know that North Macedonian people are just some types of Bulgars ethnically and linguistically. That nation or country was never mentioned and considered as a relevant and independent nation and land. You said Macedonians, I know one Macedonia that is in Greece and I know one ancient Macedonian people who were Greeks and that name and identity have nothing to do with that country in the north of Greece. You can't change and fake the history and truth.

@ministryofinformation2067

Жыл бұрын

@@MikaelGymBro 1. Bulgars are turkic and Bulgarians are Slavs. These are two different people but still related a bit. 2. The Macedonian nation have been mentioned many times in history especially during the 19th and 20th century. 3. Yes, part of Macedonia is in today's Greece, but there are also parts of geographical and ethnic Macedonia in today's country of Macedonia, Bulgaria, Serbia, Kosovo and Albania. The part of Macedonia in Greece that we call Agean Macedonia used to be populated by Slavs who called themselves Macedonians but Greece has done an excellent job at forcibly assimilating them or kicking them out of the country and only very little is left of them.

"Tasteless mumbling refered to as music" this had me cracking up... Really good summarization.

@BalkanOdyssey_

2 жыл бұрын

Ah music, better known as expensive brand name generator

@grigorijetepic2492

2 жыл бұрын

@@BalkanOdyssey_ The entire celebrity culture is extremely annoying and pointless. Basically people who are not happy with their lives (90% of the population in the capitalist world) looking into the lives of the people who seem to have a better life on the first glance.

@rajashashankgutta4334

2 жыл бұрын

@@BalkanOdyssey_ only non music lovers will call it as tasteless mumbling.

@momcilopucar8749

Жыл бұрын

Grigorije Tepic - People give comments related to videos topics and you're talking about music???🎵🎶 That's how comment paid Troll👎 to deflect good videos topic🖕 to nonsense!!🖕

@guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943

Жыл бұрын

@@rajashashankgutta4334 I mean people do losten to tastless mumbling

absolutely brilliant work, comrade. 😘

Another interesting video

@BalkanOdyssey_

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

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