Communism saved Eastern Europe

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  • @BalkanOdyssey_
    @BalkanOdyssey_15 күн бұрын

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  • @dadja_zhaba

    @dadja_zhaba

    15 күн бұрын

    please add subway surfer gameplay i cant concentrate.

  • @0Anomalous0

    @0Anomalous0

    15 күн бұрын

  • @blstcblender190

    @blstcblender190

    15 күн бұрын

    you should upload a copy of this video to the internet archive

  • @xmekow

    @xmekow

    15 күн бұрын

    that's not very socialist behaviour... selling yourself out to capitalist pigs comrade

  • @alligatorswollower8848

    @alligatorswollower8848

    15 күн бұрын

    a thing you could do is adding time stamps to the video

  • @Bismarine5712
    @Bismarine571215 күн бұрын

    Ex communist country: We had a very strong economy for our size. We even had our own steel mill that was brought by western capitalists just last year. It was the last big domestic factory of our own. Food was cheap, we wasn't rich but we wasn't poor. 34 years into capitalism and we are not rich. We are poor. I had to leave my home country as well as more than half a million of my kind in that 34 years period. (It doesn't look much, but it's 5% of the population) because it became unlivable. Capitalism ruined my home

  • @explosionbruh1875

    @explosionbruh1875

    15 күн бұрын

    hungary, im guessing?

  • @maspalfiker

    @maspalfiker

    15 күн бұрын

    ​@@explosionbruh1875you can thank Orban for that. He is bad, acting simmilarly to his pal the Tsar Putin, but still communism (as it was) certanly wasnt better. Just ask the older ppl to clearly remember how it was to live in a "fear" driven society. For one, in those times you would very fast end up in jail for writing this kind of "anti-state" comments.

  • @didanic

    @didanic

    15 күн бұрын

    seems lithuania to me

  • @scottya3615

    @scottya3615

    15 күн бұрын

    @@maspalfiker Lol Orban isn't good but he's no worse than previous post-communist Hungarian leaders. The older people miss the Kadar era.

  • @maspalfiker

    @maspalfiker

    15 күн бұрын

    @@scottya3615 the older ppl seam to forget how they had to hide their true opinions on their leaders and the moment they wanted more freedom, they felt the rage of the USSR communist tanks on the streets of Budapest.

  • @GTAVictor9128
    @GTAVictor912815 күн бұрын

    42:42 - In fact, the launch of Sputnik triggered a low-key sense of panic in the West, now known as "The Sputnik Crisis", as a result of the Western public feeling that the West was beginning to technologically lag behind the USSR. This was even more exacerbated by the failed US rocket launch in response to Sputnik. And in fact it was this pressure to catch up with the USSR that was a huge part of the reason why the US decided to expand its accessibility to education. Furthermore, the Soviets pioneered in nuclear fusion research. As late as 2016, the Soviet Tokamak design was still the most practical fusion reactor design in existence.

  • @simonstaysnclr

    @simonstaysnclr

    14 күн бұрын

    Too bad they absolutely ruined their biology sector. I would have loved to see what they could have contributed like they did to astrophysics

  • @eges72

    @eges72

    13 күн бұрын

    USSR's ideology in fact is the largest influence on FDR's New Deal programme.

  • @Go-lova

    @Go-lova

    9 күн бұрын

    Fakemoonlanding

  • @Ming1975

    @Ming1975

    9 күн бұрын

    ​@@Go-lovaworse is when Myth Busters prove they landed on the moon WITHOUT GOING TO THE MOON!!! 😂🤣

  • @BalkanOdyssey_
    @BalkanOdyssey_15 күн бұрын

    Sources for this video: I - Studies on socialist economies in the context of industrialisation G. I. Khanin - The 1950s: The Triumph of the Soviet Economy (2003) Robert C. Allen - The Rise and Decline of the Soviet Economy (2001) Robert C. Allen - Farm to Factory: A Reinterpretation of the Soviet Industrial Revolution (2003) Gur Ofer, Soviet Economic Growth: 1928-1985 (1987) David F. Good - The Economic Lag of Central and Eastern Europe Income Estimates for the Habsburg Successor States, 1870-1910 (1994) Balassa, B., and T. Bertrand - Growth Performance of Eastern European Economies and Comparable Western European Countries (1970) Jan Szczepański, Anna M. Furdyna - Early Stages of Socialist Industrialization and Changes in Social Class Structure (1978) CIA Economic intelligence report - Soviet economic policy in Eastern Europe (1958) Jiri Musil, Urbanization in Socialist Countries (1980) Peter Lizon, East Central Europe: The Unhappy Heritage of Communist Mass Housing (1996) Andre Sapir - Economic Growth and Factor Substitution: What Happened to the Yugoslav Miracle? (1980) Božić, Ćirković, Ekmečić, Dedijer - Istorija Jugoslavije (1972) TheFinnishBolshevik - The results of the 1st & 2nd five-year plans: Soviet industrial revolution (2016) II - Studies on the quality of life, health indicators, nutrition and overall welfare Shirley Cereseto, Howard Waitzkin - Capitalism, socialism and the physical quality of life (1986) Shirley Cereseto, Howard Waitzkin - Economic Development, Political-Economic System, and the Physical Quality of Life (1988) Vicente Navarro - Has Socialism Failed? An Analysis of Health Indicators under Capitalism and Socialism (1993) Stephen G. Wheatcroft - The Great Leap Upwards: Anthropometric Data and Indicators of Crises and Secular Change in Soviet Welfare Levels, 1880 -1980 (1999) Elizabeth Brainerd - Reassessing the Standard of Living in the Soviet Union: An Analysis Using Archival and Anthropometric Data (1010) Robert C. Allen - The Standard of Living in the Soviet Union, 1928-1940 (1998) Statista - Infant mortality rate (under one year old) in Russia from 1870 to 2020 Statista - Life expectancy (from birth) in Russia, from 1845 to 2020* Statista - Accessibility of education in Russia Tricontinental - Socialism Is the Best Prophylaxis: The German Democratic Republic’s Health Care System World Bank - Number of physicians in Cuba Victor Grossmann, My seventy years and the departed GDR (Monthly review) III - Achievements in Science, technology and culture Peter Kenez - Liquidating Illiteracy in Revolutionary Russia (1982) Zoya A. Malkova - Development of education in socialist countries (1979) Alexei Kojevnikov - The phenomenon of Soviet science (2008) Paul R. Josephson - Science policy in the Soviet Union (1988) Stephen Brain - Song of the Forest: Russian Forestry and Stalinist Environmentalism, 1905-1953 (2011) Adrienne Edgar - Intermarrige and the Friendship of Peoples: Ethnic Mixing in Soviet Central Asia (2022) The international Lawyer - Inventions in the Soviet Union (1973) ChemicalMind - The greatest innovations of the Soviet Union IV - Human and political rights and income inequality Albert Szymanski - Human rights in the Soviet Union (1979) Albert Szymanski - Is the Red Flag still flying? The political economy of the Soviet Union (1984) Pat Sloan - Soviet democracy (1937) Robert W. Thurston - Reassessing the history of Soviet workers: opportunities to criticise and and participate in decision-making 1935-1941 Terry Martin, David D. Laitin, George Steinmetz - The Affirmative Action Empire: Nations and Nationalism in the Soviet Union, 1923-1939 (2001) Marxists.org - Decree on the Hours of Labor Left Voice - Decriminalization of homosexuality in the USSR Alexandra Kollontai - The Soviet woman - A full and equal citizen of her country (1946) Alexandra Kollontai - On the history of the movement of women workers in Russia (1920) Kristen Ghodsee - Why Women Have Better Sex Under Socialism (2018) Washington Post - Communist states have sometimes been havens for LGBTQ rights (2022) ChemicalMind - A history of queer rights under socialist states Hegel on his head - In Defense of the Soviet Union: A Video Essay On Equality, Gender and Race in the USSR (youtube.com) Sam Marcy - Perestroika: A Marxist critique (1990) VI - Inequality of the Soviet Union Jerry Hough - The Brezhnev Era: The Man and the System (1976) Peter Wiles - Distribution of income: East and West (1974) Alastair McAuley - The Distribution of Earnings and Incomes in the Soviet Union (1977) Sciencenorway.no - Strong increase in Norwegian pay gap (2019) Mark Harrison - Soviet and Russian Inequality: Was the Soviet System Pro-Poor? (2017) Jose Ricon - The Soviet Union: poverty and inequality (2017) VII - General achievements of socialism Michael Parenti - Blackshirts and reds: rational fascism and the overthrow of communism (1997) Francis Spufford - Red plenty (2010) Austin Murphy - The Triumph of Evil: The Reality of the USA's Cold War Victory (2000) William Blum - Killing Hope: US Military and CIA Interventions since World War II (1995) Roger Keeran and Thomas Kenny - Socialism betrayed - Behind the collapse of the Soviet Union (2004) ProleWiki - Achievements of socialism Red Theory - The achievements of socialism in the Soviet Union ChemicalMind - There are plenty of positive works about the USSR, actually Hakim - Socialism is better than capitalism, right? John Green - Stasi State or Workers’ Paradise - Socialism in the German Democratic Republic and what became of it Branko Petranović, Čedomir Štrbac - Istorija socijalističke Jugoslavije (1977) VII - Personal experiences of life under socialism ChemicalMind - Personal experience and socialism Balkan Insight - Serbia Poll: Life Was Better Under Tito Balkan Insight - Albania OSCE survey Gallup - Many in the Balkans still see more harm from Yugoslavia breakup Gallup - Former Soviet countries see more harm from breakup Der Spiegel - Homesick for a Dictatorship: Majority of Eastern Germans Feel Life Better under Communism Socialni.bg - 3 от 4 българи: „Съсипаха я тая държава“

  • @icantaimpg3d776

    @icantaimpg3d776

    15 күн бұрын

    Very impressive of you to be able to read these sources, even if you don’t fully read all of them.

  • @knowledgeanddefense1054

    @knowledgeanddefense1054

    15 күн бұрын

    >"socialist" economics >looks inside >state capitalism (militant social democracy at best) :|

  • @Soudrah

    @Soudrah

    15 күн бұрын

    When the comment with sources is longer than the entire comment chain you know you got a historical materialist workin

  • @Randomvietnamdude

    @Randomvietnamdude

    15 күн бұрын

    @@knowledgeanddefense1054 Ultraleft trying to not despise all AES countries in intransition phase challenge(10000% impossible, already lose):

  • @knowledgeanddefense1054

    @knowledgeanddefense1054

    15 күн бұрын

    @@Randomvietnamdude Not a counterargument, revisionist :)

  • @cristianbalan518
    @cristianbalan51815 күн бұрын

    Brave to post this

  • @hewhomustnotbenamed5912

    @hewhomustnotbenamed5912

    15 күн бұрын

    Not really, but it is a good thing he posted it.

  • @VocalBear213

    @VocalBear213

    15 күн бұрын

    Nobody who denies the content of the video will watch it

  • @SnakeBush

    @SnakeBush

    15 күн бұрын

    save the mp4 guys

  • @naroga7757

    @naroga7757

    15 күн бұрын

    Bruh this guy just posts for attention

  • @hewhomustnotbenamed5912

    @hewhomustnotbenamed5912

    15 күн бұрын

    @@naroga7757 he spends practically no time in this video on promoting himself. The vast majority of it is him quoting and paraphrasing others work, and not using personal pronouns. The fact that you came to that conclusion suggests that you didn't actually watch the video.

  • @geraldmantel4955
    @geraldmantel495515 күн бұрын

    All the things they don't teach you in school --- in my case, the entire history of the USSR 1917-73 consisted of three things: Stalin's purges, Sputnik, and Khruschev playing the "shoe" at the UN.

  • @josue.ortega

    @josue.ortega

    14 күн бұрын

    You got it good. They taught me only: 1. The Bolsheviks took over Russia in 1917. Why? Unrest. 2. Socialism collapsed in the 90s. Why? Just because.

  • @shadowcween7890

    @shadowcween7890

    14 күн бұрын

    They didn't even teach me about the shoe thing in my years of school

  • @antiheroent.3728

    @antiheroent.3728

    14 күн бұрын

    And what other things have happened during the time? Other than atrocities...

  • @geraldmantel4955

    @geraldmantel4955

    13 күн бұрын

    @@antiheroent.3728 I meant Russian history, not the US.

  • @geraldmantel4955

    @geraldmantel4955

    13 күн бұрын

    ​@@shadowcween7890Actually, I'm not sure if it was both shoes or only one, but I do know it wasn't a Shoe Phone, which didn't come along until a few years later.

  • @grahamvincent6977
    @grahamvincent697715 күн бұрын

    The decriminalization of homosexuality by the USSR in 1922 was certainly well ahead of trends elsewhere in the world. However, they were not the first. A raft of ex-Spanish colonies in South America decriminalized in the 19th century (1820s/30s - Bolivia, Brazil, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, 1870s Mexico, 1880s/90s - Argentina, Guatemala, Honduras, Paraguay). But the winner by far was the French Conventional Assembly's new Criminal Code, which decriminalized homosexuality (which had previously been covered under reference to "sodomy") throughout the French Empire in 1791.

  • @automat8774

    @automat8774

    15 күн бұрын

    What about all the countries where homosexuality has never been considered a crime in the first place?

  • @NorthKoreaDefender

    @NorthKoreaDefender

    14 күн бұрын

    Technically speaking homosexuality wasn’t decriminalised in the way you think so basically the bolsheviks inherited the imperial constitution (which had anti homosexual laws) and got completely rid of it and started drafting up a new one so for some time it was “decriminalised” but it later returned under stalin I believe?

  • @grahamvincent6977

    @grahamvincent6977

    14 күн бұрын

    @@automat8774 Well, quite. However, this particular debate is about decriminalization, and you cannot decriminalize something that's not a criminal offence to begin with. But, good point.

  • @grahamvincent6977

    @grahamvincent6977

    14 күн бұрын

    @@NorthKoreaDefender I'm just going on what was said in the film. Might I ask you, incidentally, how you think that I think homosexuality was decriminalised? I have no independent evidence of what happened in the field. As far as I'm aware, only one country has ever decriminalised homosexuality and then criminalised it again, and that was Serbia (1858-1860 and then again from 1994)

  • @NorthKoreaDefender

    @NorthKoreaDefender

    14 күн бұрын

    @@grahamvincent6977 Alot of people think that the USSR decriminalised homosexuality because they truly respected lgbtq rights but thats kind of inaccurate because back then nobody really thought like that. Of course the socialist countries were way ahead of their time but you cant forget it was a conservative country who just started to elevate themselves from centuries of feudalism so it isnt weird that the majority of people wouldnt be supportive of those ideas.

  • @geraldmantel4955
    @geraldmantel495515 күн бұрын

    Moral of this story: Socialism can fix the problems (and there certainly are enough of them) of capitalism much faster than trickle-down neoliberalism.

  • @mariopopa1350

    @mariopopa1350

    14 күн бұрын

    Nobody said that no socialism will work, look at Scandinavia, you’ve got democratic socialism, that doesn’t have a planned economy, but a capitalist one; literally the richest countries in the world (GDP, GDP per capita, wages, etc.), but you also have a bad idea of socialism, that was extended in the East : authoritarian, planned economy, little to no personal freedom, etc.

  • @dinamosflams

    @dinamosflams

    14 күн бұрын

    ​@@mariopopa1350capitalist countries that their capitalist democracies were forced into having more rights for their populations due to being so close to the soviet union, for the population saw the advencements socialism had in their border. in the last few decades without such preassure those governsments are rapidly decreasing their rights and exploiting other countries

  • @dinamosflams

    @dinamosflams

    14 күн бұрын

    tricke-down economics is a myth. there is no reason for a capitalist to increase wages instead of acupulating more capital, and every time another one of the cyclical crisis affects capitalist institutions the rich gets richer and poor gets poorer

  • @misterno1157

    @misterno1157

    13 күн бұрын

    @@mariopopa1350 ". . .doesn't have a planned economy. . ." then it isn't socialism.

  • @harrysliyoko8809

    @harrysliyoko8809

    13 күн бұрын

    ​@@mariopopa1350 there wasn't enough computational power back to make a fully planned economy work , nowadays tho ?

  • @kaoticneutralcow4094
    @kaoticneutralcow409415 күн бұрын

    New balkan odyssey upload, today is a good day

  • @PizzaChess69

    @PizzaChess69

    15 күн бұрын

    🗿

  • @45f3f34f
    @45f3f34f14 күн бұрын

    I am from Mongolia and elder people here says that the life was great back then. Everyone had job and if you were homeless the government gave you free apartment and if you were unemployed you could easily get job. It also had free healthcare and free education. We had food to eat thanks to our factories that USSR assisted to build. The infastructure was goodly built and there was no pollution like todays mongolia.

  • @icantaimpg3d776

    @icantaimpg3d776

    14 күн бұрын

    Yes but we shouldn’t be blind to it’s problems. Praising it’s success but we have to be critical of their mistakes.

  • @kip4223

    @kip4223

    14 күн бұрын

    @@icantaimpg3d776 the guy is talking about infrastructure, social net, job security, you answer with methods of statehood which were present even before communism to help realize the truth root of civilians beeing killed and the solution for it is not to withold relocation of wealth to the important things this planet and its inhabitants need.

  • @TrueSpace61

    @TrueSpace61

    10 күн бұрын

    Did the us kill your country like they did to the USSR?

  • @belstar1128

    @belstar1128

    9 күн бұрын

    they are boomers people get nostalgic about everything given enough time

  • @snekcube107

    @snekcube107

    7 күн бұрын

    ​@@belstar1128 say gwa gwa

  • @grovehoLP
    @grovehoLP15 күн бұрын

    Paused everything to watch this.

  • @nerrler5574

    @nerrler5574

    15 күн бұрын

    Hopefully not the video

  • @user-vm6hc2nd1j
    @user-vm6hc2nd1j15 күн бұрын

    I just wanted to correct one thing. Capital of Russian empire was Saint Petersburg, not Moscow.

  • @keltoislavi

    @keltoislavi

    10 күн бұрын

    Petrograd*

  • @astroidexadam5976

    @astroidexadam5976

    9 күн бұрын

    @@keltoislavi St Petersburg was only called Petrograd from 1914 to 1924

  • @shahramtondkarmobarakie1824
    @shahramtondkarmobarakie182415 күн бұрын

    i felt a disturbance in the force, as if hundreds of vatniks suddenly reloaded their keyboards btw B.O if you could separate videos like these into 20mins bite size episodes would be much easier to watch since i rarely get an hour long break at work and i usually forget where i left off

  • @FeiFongWang

    @FeiFongWang

    15 күн бұрын

    KZread automatically saves where you left off when you close out the browser or app

  • @shahramtondkarmobarakie1824

    @shahramtondkarmobarakie1824

    15 күн бұрын

    @@FeiFongWang well shit doesnt do that for me apparently

  • @infantjones

    @infantjones

    15 күн бұрын

    What lol

  • @judgemcnugget7110

    @judgemcnugget7110

    15 күн бұрын

    Screenshot the time stamp

  • @BalkanOdyssey_

    @BalkanOdyssey_

    14 күн бұрын

    Noted. I'm constantly struggling with finding a balance in my format, but I'll keep it in mind. Future videos really should be shorter (around 20mins), but this one unavoidably turned out into a full-out documentary

  • @sudaroxii
    @sudaroxii14 күн бұрын

    "Don't compare yourself to other, but to who you were yesterday." Hit me harder then i thought. Very underappreciated sentiment. Great video

  • @qwerty-tv9wc

    @qwerty-tv9wc

    9 күн бұрын

    Bad take. Eastern Europeans should compere themselves with who they would be if they were capitalist.

  • @_gajewski3626
    @_gajewski362615 күн бұрын

    The polish horde is approaching

  • @wojciech-aleksjejdiablewic884

    @wojciech-aleksjejdiablewic884

    15 күн бұрын

    you think all Poles are anti Socialist mob?

  • @FeiFongWang

    @FeiFongWang

    15 күн бұрын

    My cousin's grandpappy was graped by a Soviet orc! /s

  • @thepotatogod2951

    @thepotatogod2951

    15 күн бұрын

    Well the socialist goverment in Poland was quite incompetent, and only supported by a minority of the population.

  • @zubrifikusummuk

    @zubrifikusummuk

    15 күн бұрын

    ​my mothers grandparents were exterminated by nationalists and the red army rescued them. btw how many jews were slaughtered and graped by poles during pogroms across the centuries? its suddenly not that nice when it happens to u right?

  • @wojciech-aleksjejdiablewic884

    @wojciech-aleksjejdiablewic884

    15 күн бұрын

    @@zubrifikusummuk What are you talking about? Are you Isreali or what? We rescure jews from that,not helping germans. If you relay on Isreal leaders and Politicians then sorry but they lie as hell just to put us in the same place as everyone who don't agree with there Zionist ideas over Europe

  • @toby01sk41
    @toby01sk4115 күн бұрын

    I am a Slovak, and I agree with you wholeheartedly. Without socialism, our country would be underdeveloped with nothing really done. Like it or not, the most important things here were built by them. Even today, many Slovaks remember socialism fondly, my family included. Great video man, keep it up !

  • @danielk934

    @danielk934

    14 күн бұрын

    Based, bro, based Hello from Russia to you Sadly here in Russia, we know little about people like you in Slovakia and Czech

  • @stst-rt1vg

    @stst-rt1vg

    14 күн бұрын

    Kdo naučil důchodce používat KZread

  • @user-zm7se3tn7u

    @user-zm7se3tn7u

    14 күн бұрын

    I agree 👍💯. We had much better life then. The great life in America was just a big lie. People fell for USA's lies. People in USA think 🤔 that they have a great life and they can't even afford to go to schools and to the doctors. In our Eastern Block , we used to have a free schools and free health care not like in America. We had America back home 🏠 during socialism not like now.

  • @user-zm7se3tn7u

    @user-zm7se3tn7u

    14 күн бұрын

    ​@@stst-rt1vgblbý koment od niekoho kto nevie ani po anglicky

  • @user-zm7se3tn7u

    @user-zm7se3tn7u

    14 күн бұрын

    ​@@stst-rt1vgif, you are so smart 🤓 why don't you respond to that person in English. That person has got great English writing skills which proves that we had a better school system during socialism not like now.😂

  • @vazeyo
    @vazeyo13 күн бұрын

    1:01:05 That reminded me of a phrase some family members from East Germany (DDR) tend to say: "Our western family members always told us how good the banana tasted, but never told us their amount of rent."

  • @alexdownfeet882
    @alexdownfeet88215 күн бұрын

    WE DID IT STALIN, WE SAVED EASTERN EUROPE!

  • @Mangoeplanter

    @Mangoeplanter

    10 күн бұрын

    Was that a SpongeBob reference?

  • @alexdownfeet882

    @alexdownfeet882

    10 күн бұрын

    @@Mangoeplanter yes

  • @chemreac1
    @chemreac115 күн бұрын

    Who is that handsome-sounding gentleman who starts talking at around 31 minutes I wonder? 🤔 In all seriousness, great job, it was a blast to help with the vid!

  • @alondvorkin2762

    @alondvorkin2762

    15 күн бұрын

    Shame ya'll seemingly forgot that communism has no state, no class, no wage labor, no commodity production and no private property.

  • @MrsProfessionalDumbass

    @MrsProfessionalDumbass

    15 күн бұрын

    Nice work, comrade

  • @BalkanOdyssey_

    @BalkanOdyssey_

    15 күн бұрын

    A distinguished one with some based asf points if you ask me. Likewise man!

  • @krasinmarinov

    @krasinmarinov

    14 күн бұрын

    I think that person might be chemicalmind

  • @Epy-
    @Epy-15 күн бұрын

    I'm doing some research on the question "how the collapse of the USSR effects the modern day"

  • @djriqky9581

    @djriqky9581

    15 күн бұрын

    It didn't collapse, it was voted out by it's bourgeois line of the party when the majority of the population voted to keep it and they called upon the military to crush dissent

  • @Epy-

    @Epy-

    15 күн бұрын

    @@djriqky9581 you wouldn't happen to have a source ?

  • @djriqky9581

    @djriqky9581

    15 күн бұрын

    @@Epy- 1991 Soviet union referendum: Do you consider it necessary to preserve the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics as a renewed federation of equal sovereign republics, in which the rights and freedoms of a person of any nationality will be fully guaranteed? Choice Votes % Yes 113,512,812 77.85% No 32,303,977 22.15%

  • @djriqky9581

    @djriqky9581

    15 күн бұрын

    @@Epy- For some bourgeois spokesmen, defending their ideology is primarily a matter of public relations and “confidence.” Since the beginning of the new year. President Reagan has been happily proclaiming the coming end of the economic “recession.” His professional huckster’s optimism has been echoed by many others: right-wing economist Milton Friedman predicted that “1983 will be a year of rapid and vigorous economic growth” (Newsweek, February 7). Nevertheless, the flood of anxious reports on the state of the world economy has not ceased. The news media are justifiably shaking over the danger to the major capitalist powers posed by threatening economic collapse in several large “Third World” countries; fears of a “debtors’ cartel” surface simultaneously in several journals. One of the most optimistic bourgeois organs, Business Week magazine, illustrated its “Recovery at Last” article with a graph titled “The modest world recovery … will bolster world trade … but will not restore jobs” (February 14). A month later (March 21) it added that capital spending in 1983 will fall by 8.8 percent - hardly a portent of a serious recovery. A significant sidelight on the bourgeoisie’s controversy has been focused on the economic condition of the West’s chief rival, the USSR. On Christmas day, a CIA report was released crediting the Soviet Union with a comfortable 4.8 percent growth rate for the past three decades. Congressman Henry Reuss, chairman of the Joint Economic Committee that commissioned the report, stressed the liberals’ conclusions: “This important study helps put into perspective for Americans the fact that the USSR, far from being on the verge of collapse, has experienced major growth.” Reuss was clearly disputing Reagan’s frequent assertions that the USSR, because of its lack of “free enterprise,” was economically doomed. A CIA official, releasing a follow-up study, underlined the point: “In fact, we do not consider an economic ‘collapse’ … even a remote possibility” (New York Times, January 9).

  • @djriqky9581

    @djriqky9581

    15 күн бұрын

    @@Epy- For some bourgeois spokesmen, defending their ideology is primarily a matter of public relations and “confidence.” Since the beginning of the new year. President Reagan has been happily proclaiming the coming end of the economic “recession.” His professional huckster’s optimism has been echoed by many others: right-wing economist Milton Friedman predicted that “1983 will be a year of rapid and vigorous economic growth” (Newsweek, February 7). Nevertheless, the flood of anxious reports on the state of the world economy has not ceased. The news media are justifiably shaking over the danger to the major capitalist powers posed by threatening economic collapse in several large “Third World” countries; fears of a “debtors’ cartel” surface simultaneously in several journals. One of the most optimistic bourgeois organs, Business Week magazine, illustrated its “Recovery at Last” article with a graph titled “The modest world recovery … will bolster world trade … but will not restore jobs” (February 14). A month later (March 21) it added that capital spending in 1983 will fall by 8.8 percent - hardly a portent of a serious recovery. A significant sidelight on the bourgeoisie’s controversy has been focused on the economic condition of the West’s chief rival, the USSR. On Christmas day, a CIA report was released crediting the Soviet Union with a comfortable 4.8 percent growth rate for the past three decades. Congressman Henry Reuss, chairman of the Joint Economic Committee that commissioned the report, stressed the liberals’ conclusions: “This important study helps put into perspective for Americans the fact that the USSR, far from being on the verge of collapse, has experienced major growth.” Reuss was clearly disputing Reagan’s frequent assertions that the USSR, because of its lack of “free enterprise,” was economically doomed. A CIA official, releasing a follow-up study, underlined the point: “In fact, we do not consider an economic ‘collapse’ … even a remote possibility” (New York Times, January 9).

  • @gabbut7553
    @gabbut755315 күн бұрын

    Those videos always make me truly and deeply sad, as I remember how we lost all of that our socialist ancesters built. But it still makes me hold on my hope that we will succeed and the revolution shall happen again.

  • @yaelz6043

    @yaelz6043

    15 күн бұрын

    Ancestors? It *started* 100 years ago for Russia and like 75 years ago for eastern Europe. Fuckers are still alive, how are they ancestors? 🤔

  • @challe535

    @challe535

    15 күн бұрын

    Yea it is sad, but they paved the way for future revolutions. The bourgeois revolutions also failed many a time.

  • @marcusappelberg369

    @marcusappelberg369

    14 күн бұрын

    Once the US Empire falls, in this multipolar world, we shall have victories once more, comrades! ❤

  • @vadimk3484

    @vadimk3484

    14 күн бұрын

    Definitely not during our lifetime. Crapitalism still has a century or two in it. We're barely entering digital fascism at this point, tons of potential for the exploiters there. Maybe our kids will have a chance though, if they survive WW3.

  • @user-ts3cn3yy6t

    @user-ts3cn3yy6t

    14 күн бұрын

    I feel despair everyday because how tight the life has become and with so limited options, with less purchasing power or safety net... I joined a union in the country i currently work... Greetings from Romania!

  • @josemaria8177
    @josemaria817715 күн бұрын

    Controversial, yet true title

  • @knowledgeanddefense1054

    @knowledgeanddefense1054

    15 күн бұрын

    You're not a communist nor an anti imperialist, you're a state capitalist who supports the other empire.

  • @jackisinforthewin

    @jackisinforthewin

    15 күн бұрын

    ​@@knowledgeanddefense1054 tf are you talking about

  • @knowledgeanddefense1054

    @knowledgeanddefense1054

    15 күн бұрын

    @@jackisinforthewin The actual truth, the USSR was an imperialist superpower just like the US is. "bu-but all the nations they conquered were fascist!" how convenient, definitely not propaganda. Heck, in some cases attacking them for no valid reason literally encouraged them to ally with the nazis afterwards, like Finland. And in the case of Czechoslovakia for example, they were literally openly socialist and were invaded for demanding more proletariat control (totally a counter revolutionary goal, right there)

  • @knowledgeanddefense1054

    @knowledgeanddefense1054

    15 күн бұрын

    @@jackisinforthewin No because "socialist state" is a contradiction, even Marx and Engels believed socialism only begins once the state withers away... and their definition of a worker state involved one ran by the entire population, as Marx told Bakunin. Only libertarian socialist societies (anarcho-communists, communalists, neozapatistas, etc) have made any progress towards decommodification, collectivizing property relations and shrinking class dynamics.

  • @sentientnatalie

    @sentientnatalie

    15 күн бұрын

    @@knowledgeanddefense1054 Yes, we are anti-imperialists and communists, you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

  • @divjiv
    @divjiv2 күн бұрын

    For all the "great" achievements of the communism - more people died under Mao and Stalin than from Hitler. The level of social and cultural destruction cannot be healed in my country to this day. The mistrust and hate are still fresh in the memories of many fellow citizens. Any proper development in my country was actively prevented by the USSR.

  • @MarcanMC
    @MarcanMC14 күн бұрын

    As a pole, my country is doing better economically now than ever before

  • @Cardan011

    @Cardan011

    14 күн бұрын

    It’s useless saying this to commie larpers, it goes right over their heads. Modern communists are similar to flat earthers…

  • @ayhan4472

    @ayhan4472

    14 күн бұрын

    With german money

  • @MarcanMC

    @MarcanMC

    14 күн бұрын

    @@ayhan4472 and Germany got rich with American money, so fucking what?

  • @ad0lfchrist

    @ad0lfchrist

    13 күн бұрын

    With those 3 words you just explained why capitalism is vastly superior to communism

  • @rupigo

    @rupigo

    13 күн бұрын

    Yes, and?... Can you magically predict how Poland would have evolved in a alternative reality where the US didn't sabotage the USSR?

  • @matthewhuszarik4173
    @matthewhuszarik417314 күн бұрын

    A lot of propaganda. You mix up backwards Russia with very developed Baltic States, Poland, and Czechoslovakia. They weren’t still feudal in the 20th century. Yes Romania and the Balkans were still very primitive but the northern and central parts of Eastern Europe weren’t.

  • @JohnoftheWesternlands

    @JohnoftheWesternlands

    13 күн бұрын

    Actually the Baltics and Poland were part of the backward Russian Empire and they were feudal

  • @matthewhuszarik4173

    @matthewhuszarik4173

    13 күн бұрын

    @@JohnoftheWesternlands They were all split off from the Soviet Union after WW1 and actually only a small sliver of present day Poland was part of Russia mostly it was part of German Empire and the Austro-Hungarian Empire. The Baltic States and that small part of Poland only became part of Russia in the late 18th and early 19th centuries. They never became Russified and were more occupied nations, because all throughout the 19th and into the 20th century there were regular revolts to rid themselves of the Russians. Feudalism ended in Poland and the Baltic states in the middle of the 18th century when it ended in the rest of Western Europe before they were occupied by Russia. Feudalism persisted in Russia until later in the 19th century.

  • @maspalfiker

    @maspalfiker

    10 күн бұрын

    The author of the video made the same mixup with all the lands which were a part of Austria-Hungary such as Croatia too. From his earlier videos I figured he is originaly from Bosnia, and yes Bosnia and other SEE countries, or the Balkan region, were not long enough part of the "west" thru their membership in the Austro-Hungarian monarchy but instead were up until the end of the 19th/early 20th century just economicaly and socialy destroyed feudal colonies of the Ottoman empire. After WW2, when they were ocupied by the USSR-influenced communist regime, that regime did at first do a lot for them to catch-up with the rest of Europe but eventualy faild from the 70s to the 80s because socio-economic development does not go hand in hand with totalitarian regimes which stay in pover only thru their secret police brutality in order to silence all who dare to have different opinions.

  • @qwerty-tv9wc

    @qwerty-tv9wc

    9 күн бұрын

    Before WW2 Estonia had co parabole GDP to its neighbor Finland. Crazy to think about.

  • @saintman9460

    @saintman9460

    4 күн бұрын

    You mean those baltic peasants who were polishing dicks of german horses in the stables? Yep, very developed.

  • @mepanther3125
    @mepanther312515 күн бұрын

    Thank you so much for this. ☭

  • @PizzaChess69

    @PizzaChess69

    15 күн бұрын

    🗿

  • @Lukasz0707
    @Lukasz070715 күн бұрын

    32:34 What is the sorce for this statement? Stalin in fact promoted completely opposite view of INTENSIFICATION OF CLASS STRUGLE (and was strongly criticized for it), it was Khrushchev who declared USSR a "state of all people"

  • @Lukasz0707

    @Lukasz0707

    15 күн бұрын

    It is surprising mistake to make in such well researched video but still great job comrade.

  • @HordaRoja1
    @HordaRoja115 күн бұрын

    Hopefully the Stalin's video ain't just: "Actually Stalin was pretty evil and Lenin left a letter saying Trotsky should rule! 🥸🥸" Great video so far!

  • @8lec_R

    @8lec_R

    14 күн бұрын

    I'm pretty sure BO is capable of more than that

  • @BalkanOdyssey_

    @BalkanOdyssey_

    14 күн бұрын

    I hope I haven't really left that weak of an impression. We might not end up agreeing on everything, but I won't disappoint.

  • @HordaRoja1

    @HordaRoja1

    14 күн бұрын

    @@BalkanOdyssey_ Not saying because I didn't like this video. More like it's common to see a lot of "communists" do very well debunking a lot of myths about socialist countries and then go on a rant about how Stalin was the most evil and Trotsky should've been elected or something. When in reality Stalin's administration, while not perfect, was responsible of the absolute increase in the material conditions of the USSR. Propaganda against Stalin is so bad, people still believe Stalin got a terrible relationship with his son or that he died alone because "his guards were afraid to go in", non-sense!

  • @KenstutisVytautas

    @KenstutisVytautas

    12 күн бұрын

    @@HordaRoja1how did Stalin die then?

  • @HordaRoja1

    @HordaRoja1

    12 күн бұрын

    @@KenstutisVytautas In the last few months before his death, his security was dismantled. Proskryobychev, Stalin's personal secretary since 1928, was put under house arrest, and Nikolai Vlasik, Stalin's bodyguard, was arrested in December 1952 and died in prison. Pyotr Kosynkin, Vice-Commander of the Kremlin Guard, died of a supposed heart attack on 17 February 1953. Beria was the only one capable of such a plot, and Molotov suspected that MVD chief Beria poisoned Stalin, while Hoxha believed Khrushchev and Mikoyan had planned to assassinate him. On 1 March 1953, at 23:00 Stalin's guards found him unconscious in his room but did not call a doctor. He did not receive first aid until twelve hours after his collapse and died on 5 March.

  • @apersonfromthebalkans1105
    @apersonfromthebalkans11052 күн бұрын

    Socialism in Yugoslavia after 1948 was one thing. Another thing was the brutal doctrine forced by the Soviets on the rest of Eastern Europe. Maybe it had worked in a serfdom society like the Russians. But for the much more developed nations in Eastern Europe and the Balkans it was a disaster.

  • @JaceHart33
    @JaceHart3315 күн бұрын

    Very informative, thank you!

  • @looiyuanjieyuanjie1451
    @looiyuanjieyuanjie14514 күн бұрын

    hey balkan odyssey, a youtuber by the name of lavader started responding to you regarding your video about "everything you know about history is wrong". Please respond to him, he is a conservative by the way.

  • @mauzekoni5196
    @mauzekoni519615 күн бұрын

    Love your videos! Great presentation and solid explanations for everything!

  • @will823
    @will82315 күн бұрын

    Socialism for America

  • @Pridetoons

    @Pridetoons

    15 күн бұрын

    Socialism for All!!!

  • @will823

    @will823

    15 күн бұрын

    @@Pridetoons you know what I mean but yes

  • @yaelz6043

    @yaelz6043

    15 күн бұрын

    You wouldn't be able to handle it.

  • @connornoel2138

    @connornoel2138

    15 күн бұрын

    ​@yaelz6043 are you implying that the overwhelming wave of relief from knowing that the levers of power are no longer held individualistic sociopaths who are only concerned with amassing the largest pile of plunder is somehow hazardous? I disagree

  • @MikeJoe-jy5kp

    @MikeJoe-jy5kp

    15 күн бұрын

    Yes

  • @zoltanhorvath7454
    @zoltanhorvath745410 күн бұрын

    I was still a kid in the 80s communist Hungary. I loved my childhood. The school system was good at that time and the quality of education was very high even for the tradies! I have seen the decline from the 90s onwards especially in the society. 😢

  • @ZachariasEnislidis
    @ZachariasEnislidis12 күн бұрын

    Since the fall of communism, people from those countries migrated. For example, Yugoslavs, Albanians, Georgians etc. they did not migrate to Kazakstan (the last soviet state), they migrated to "western" nowdays eu countries with a capitalist financial system. The question is, why? Let me place another question why communism collapsed in the first place?

  • @caim3465

    @caim3465

    11 күн бұрын

    Well... I like communism's goal of stateless society, but I think their methods are counter-productive. This is why I am not a communist.

  • @munaali840

    @munaali840

    11 күн бұрын

    how many times does capitalism collapse?

  • @Mangoeplanter

    @Mangoeplanter

    10 күн бұрын

    ​@@munaali840like never?

  • @username88094

    @username88094

    10 күн бұрын

    @@Mangoeplanter2008 recession, the Great Depression (hilariously the USSR was the only one not affected), the 1970 economic inflation just to make a few

  • @qwerty-tv9wc

    @qwerty-tv9wc

    9 күн бұрын

    ​@@username88094bro serioudly thinks we dont live in capitalism anymore 💀💀

  • @corneliucor6903
    @corneliucor69034 күн бұрын

    You can simply compare GDR with West Germany in '89, the Trabi ( you had to wait 15 years for your new Trabi; with the VW, BMW...the west many more cars, and the fact that everyone was trying to escape the east, and you 'll have the answer on how succesful communism was.

  • @positivevibesonly3371
    @positivevibesonly337115 күн бұрын

    Three things. 1) props on the video 2) dumb question on my side but its got me stumped, i was going theu the study guide of wage labour capital, what is the impact of free public education on wages? 3) what are the names of the artworks you used in your video, im trying to "collect" as many of them as i can - what to study them for interest sake. Thank you from South Africa

  • @Soudrah

    @Soudrah

    15 күн бұрын

    Free public education increases higher "level" labor pools across a theoretical country. Access to more labor competition should mean wage decrease, but only if you consider the current status and pool of advanced labor and sufficient. For argument let's use doctors (I know public uni students don't all become doctors but...) before free education the pool of doctors is restricted by financial pressure, public uni reduces those financial pressures increasing availability of college and thereby hopefully increasing the labor pool of doctors. If wages are assumed supply and demand we can assume doctor wages decrease and more people become doctors, the reality is likely thar public universities may REQUIRE other public services (health, legal, etc) so as to offset that increase in supply with a much larger increase in demand. Then the new doctors learning from public free uni now also have new patients becoming more healthy from new public health. The beauty of most socialist practices is they are self reinforcing as long as they remain adaptable to new technology/environmental concerns

  • @positivevibesonly3371

    @positivevibesonly3371

    15 күн бұрын

    @@Soudrah 🙏thank you so much

  • @BalkanSpectre

    @BalkanSpectre

    15 күн бұрын

    @@positivevibesonly3371 the above comment is only a theoretical abstraction, things in reality are much more complicated because every country has to exist within a global economic system. For instance, there is a high incentive for people that got a free education and became engineers and doctors etc to move abroad to wealthier countries to have (1) better wage and (2) better purchacing power due to fiscal policies (i.e. different currencies, higher or lower cost of living). When trying to research something you will have to differentiate on what terms you will approach it. Economics (as are mostly used, similar to logistics etc.) will give you answers based on quantifiable observable data, and as such is limited to our ability to categorize and measure. Political economy, then, has a different approach with different limitations. It's hard to find THE ANSWER to anything. If we could there wouldn't be much need for discussion and debate but you can create the best model / understanding based on the available material. This may be tiresome but it helps us at least safeguard ourself from error

  • @BalkanOdyssey_

    @BalkanOdyssey_

    14 күн бұрын

    Thank you! Your second question was pretty much answered by Soundrah, and regarding nr. 3 - I've found pretty much every single artwork on Pinterest, by searching for various socialist/communist/marxist/soviet keywords.

  • @bigboyman5743
    @bigboyman574315 күн бұрын

    my man straight up cooking 🍳

  • @BalkanOdyssey_

    @BalkanOdyssey_

    14 күн бұрын

    Tsssss

  • @Pabloto-dq3sx

    @Pabloto-dq3sx

    11 күн бұрын

    Full course meal, god damn!

  • @Mangoeplanter

    @Mangoeplanter

    10 күн бұрын

    ​@@Pabloto-dq3sxwhat meal?

  • @Pabloto-dq3sx

    @Pabloto-dq3sx

    10 күн бұрын

    @@Mangoeplanter the one Balkan odyssey cooked, of course!

  • @undergroundsound7419
    @undergroundsound741913 күн бұрын

    The influence of the worker councils was profound in the early years of the Soviet Union. They were intended to be directly elected bodies responsible to their electors and bound by their instructions, embodying a form of direct democracy. However, over time, the power of the soviets diminished as the Soviet Union moved towards a more centralized state under Stalin’s rule. The workers’ councils, which Lenin once identified as the embryo of communist governance, were integrated into the state apparatus and lost much of their autonomy and influence. By the time of Stalin’s leadership, the soviets had become largely symbolic, with real political power being concentrated in the hands of the Communist Party and its bureaucracy. Communists play this mot and bailey game where they talk a game about loving democracy in the workplace but in practice all the countries they love to point to that have worker council's at their workplace always end up being rubbed stamp committees for the centralised authorities, and they will cope by calling it Democratic centralism, which is definitely not the goods they advertised with at first when they try to sell the idea of democratising the workplace.

  • @binbows2258

    @binbows2258

    12 күн бұрын

    You should watch the video "The Bolshevik War Against the Soviets" by Noj Rants. Even since BEFORE the founding of the USSR, during the time of Lenin, the Soviets, Peasant's Councils, and local assemblies were being oppressed and puppeted by the Bolsheviks. The Soviets were never truly independent, free, or democratic for as long as Bolshevism held sway in the Russian Empire. The Bolsheviks even repeatedly extorted, opened fire on, and arrested many independent Soviets for being "counter-revolutionary." Edit: Noj Rants's other videos are fantastic as well. I recomend him through and through.

  • @flameguy3416
    @flameguy341615 күн бұрын

    Communism ended in Eastern Europe when all the available money went into the pockets of Oligarchs and Soviet statesmen. Soviet Russia was the biggest money siphon ever devised until Only Fans came along. It all boils down to Greed.

  • @redlion45

    @redlion45

    15 күн бұрын

    It ended when three guys in a room illegally dissolved the USSR against 77% of the populations wishes, and collaborators like Yeltsin siphoned off state assets to foreign companies for pennies on the dollar.

  • @TiananmenPrism

    @TiananmenPrism

    15 күн бұрын

    Soviet Russia was the biggest money siphon... You ever heard about USA? 😂

  • @modelarsky

    @modelarsky

    15 күн бұрын

    if u think that OF is a bigger money siphon then you are lost mu dude XD look up USA's military budget amd net worth of people owning the companies sucking up all of those bilions of taxpayer dollars. also, what you described is called capitalist restoration, neoliberal shock-therapy - not communism XD for thkse oligarchies and crisis i the 90s you have to thank your big daddy USA, not communism XD

  • @redlion45

    @redlion45

    15 күн бұрын

    Yeah, maybe that's because western backed traitors like Yeltsin illegally dissolved the USSR against the wishes of 77% of the population, and then gave their state owned assets to western companies for pennies on the dollar. But yes, please tell me how the USSR siphoned this money 😂

  • @kongspeaks4778

    @kongspeaks4778

    15 күн бұрын

    Me no read books, me believe grandma's bedtime story instead

  • @SUDMONEYBAGS
    @SUDMONEYBAGS11 күн бұрын

    I'm Armenian and my entire family my mother especially loved and still love the Soviet union and communism it was a era of better times and of peace when there was no war, although I'm a Orthodox Christian I do have a weird odd soft spot for the Soviet union not really for communism though

  • @Crimson19977
    @Crimson1997712 күн бұрын

    Ain't no way that the title of this video is real

  • @Mangoeplanter

    @Mangoeplanter

    10 күн бұрын

    Fr

  • @user-wx6vz2vn3y

    @user-wx6vz2vn3y

    5 күн бұрын

    He is talking facts

  • @Mangoeplanter

    @Mangoeplanter

    5 күн бұрын

    @@user-wx6vz2vn3y like the fact that communism suck

  • @Crimson19977

    @Crimson19977

    5 күн бұрын

    @@user-wx6vz2vn3y as an Eastern European... no, he isn't.

  • @user-oz5yk9bm5c

    @user-oz5yk9bm5c

    3 күн бұрын

    @@user-wx6vz2vn3y indeed. the fall of communism was the day the world went to shit.

  • @undergroundsound7419
    @undergroundsound741913 күн бұрын

    The Stalinist period severely curtailed the rights to birth control and abortion that had been afforded to women, and divorce was made more difficult. While women had theoretically equal rights as men, women were disproportionately kept out of the leadership of the communist party, and established sexism (which the Soviet govt. under Stalin did little to remedy compared to the previous government) kept women from advancing in society into positions of management. Women were unable to advance, beyond a very few, into high Party leadership thorughout the lifetime of the USSR. The original poster does discuss these remaining barriers for women in his sources, but fails to discuss the rollback of abortion and reproductive policy under Stalin, which seems disingenuous

  • @Veles1113

    @Veles1113

    9 күн бұрын

    While in same time women werent even allowed to vote in US along with people of color.

  • @user-oz5yk9bm5c

    @user-oz5yk9bm5c

    3 күн бұрын

    You got a source for this?

  • @cvybays3733

    @cvybays3733

    3 күн бұрын

    @@user-oz5yk9bm5c I know Lady izdihar has a good video on the abortion and birth control restrictions as well as Soviet Democracy by Pat Sloan having a good section on it as well. for the women in leadership question, well in my opinion it's a foolish talk, as even if women are in leadership positions that doesn't equate with good conditions for women and plus we have to compare it for the time as the strides in women's rights were completely unknown to almost anywhere in the world, which forced the western ruling classes to give women rights to the sciences in order to not get smoked in the space race. books i recommend for these topics are "Soviet Democracy" by Pat Sloan, "Statsi State or Socialist Paradise" by Bruni De La Motte and John Green, as well as "Why women have better sex under socialism" Kristen Ghodsee" (a book I have yet to read myself but a very good one on this topic from what i've heard)

  • @user-oz5yk9bm5c

    @user-oz5yk9bm5c

    3 күн бұрын

    @@cvybays3733 Thank you:)

  • @dragontime4838
    @dragontime483814 күн бұрын

    i am latvian, i fully disagree with you, we were the economic centre of the baltics before the 1918 freedom revoloution, during our free years until 1940 we were super developed compared to everyone around us, we were a industrial powerhouse. what happens when the ussr comes? our economy collapses and we go back to farming. 200+k of my people were deported and noone knows how many were shot and or killed, they tried to ethnically cleanse us. They sent us away and sent ukrainians, belorussians and russians here. we were ruined by the ussr and communism, if we would've stayed like what we were pre annexation, we would be on simmilar terms to finland and or denmark. instead we are well off, but not nearly as well as we could've been if we had been left alone.

  • @chemreac1

    @chemreac1

    14 күн бұрын

    Statistical data shows that Latvia had a higher standard of living than the Russian SSR. Your economy never 'collapsed' thanks to any circumstances but war, and after ww2 all soviet satellites developed steadily throughout their existence. Maybe not as fast as the US, but they never had crashes either.

  • @ahemenidov1900

    @ahemenidov1900

    13 күн бұрын

    Not you were, but mostly Baltic Germans on service of Russian Empire and some rich Russians together with them. Btw, many of these Germans were true patriots of Russian Empire and struggled for Tzar in Civil war. Anyway, second thing was having access to entire market of Russian Empire. After Germans and White Russians have gone everything was about to finish. But Soviet Union has come and made for you convenient to blame it for your dreams ruining. However indeed USSR policy was to bring you exceptional economic privileges which most of USSR regions might only dream to have. After USSR collapse you continued parasite earnings on Russia via ports, dirty currency games and money laundering. But since 2010s Russia slowly started to shut down all your activities. And finally 2022 year, the game changer, left you alone, totally isolated from interacting with large Russian market. Back to nowhere

  • @talismanbrunski2582

    @talismanbrunski2582

    13 күн бұрын

    @@chemreac1 I'm a second generation Latvian they're 100% correct about the state of Latvia. As far as your comment please link your statistical dat because I call bullshit. And what happened to Latvia and what Latvians had to endure was horrific. Whatever statistics you're going. to pull out of your ass doesn't take away from that even if there were marginal increase to standard of living in some respect (which I'm highly skeptical of). Also, your reminder that Russia nor any ML country has actually achieved socialism

  • @seductive_fishstick8961
    @seductive_fishstick896113 күн бұрын

    does anyone have the name of the poster at 12:25, I absolutely love it. absolutely banger video ofc, literally everything Balkan Odyssey makes is based

  • @vilen89
    @vilen8913 күн бұрын

    Can we stop saying how great eastern europe communism was. We can still advocate for communism but distance ourselves from red fascism... I mean Yugoslavia was prob the most sane socialist country and even then there were some seriois issues with the system.

  • @connornoel2138
    @connornoel213815 күн бұрын

    thank you. the idea that the caricature put forward by anticommunistis and neofascists (not to repeat myself) who somehow all have a grandfather who was murdered by the soviets is not supported by statistics or history isn't often stated. I wonder why their narratives take precedence over statistics and historical reality 🤔

  • @EmpiresEGG

    @EmpiresEGG

    15 күн бұрын

    Have you ever lived a day under communism?

  • @icantaimpg3d776

    @icantaimpg3d776

    14 күн бұрын

    Because most people are too ignorant and uncritical to even want to find the truth, they just want easy and short answers even if the mass majority of them are lies or aren’t accurate.

  • @Russkiman96

    @Russkiman96

    11 күн бұрын

    Its like reviews on McDonald's or something a 100 people go in and have a decent experience. 1 person will have a bad experience and write about it and tell everyone how awful that location is and that it needs to be shut down and be all vocal about it while the other 99 will just go on about their business. Except in this case the democratic world supports the negative view and blows it out of proportion.

  • @Flow86767
    @Flow8676714 күн бұрын

    What do you think of Vadim Rogovin’s work, « Was there an alternative »? I’m very tempted to read it to see a more critical view of the Stalinist regime from a more leftist / Trotskyist point of view. Would you recommend it?

  • @BalkanOdyssey_

    @BalkanOdyssey_

    14 күн бұрын

    Hm I haven't read that one but I'll check it out myself too

  • @danielk934
    @danielk93414 күн бұрын

    32:25 Stalin did not state that classes do not exist anymore, on contrary, he stated that with deeper socialism class struggle instensifies, this statement is thing many critisise him for

  • @redterrorproductions1373
    @redterrorproductions137315 күн бұрын

    Good video.

  • @JmKrokY
    @JmKrokY11 күн бұрын

    We spreading propaganda with this one 🗣🔥🔥🔥

  • @eugenejakovlev3918
    @eugenejakovlev391812 күн бұрын

    Stalinism blah blah, bourgeois lies.

  • @BalkanOdyssey_

    @BalkanOdyssey_

    11 күн бұрын

    Dogmatism really will be the end of us

  • @maarten1115

    @maarten1115

    2 күн бұрын

    ​@@BalkanOdyssey_ Ironic statement, coming from you.

  • @klintonjezena6458
    @klintonjezena645815 күн бұрын

    Well it is quite unreasonable to say that socialism saved people from feudalism. Appart from USSR, it came into eastern Europe in 1945. by which time feudalism didn't exist anywhere anymore.

  • @PastPerspectives3

    @PastPerspectives3

    15 күн бұрын

    Almost like this video has an offensively stupid, indefensible, and insensitive thesis statement.

  • @pao5567

    @pao5567

    15 күн бұрын

    ​@@PastPerspectives3 the ussr brought toilets to eastern europe

  • @mariopopa1350

    @mariopopa1350

    14 күн бұрын

    @@pao5567 it brought death, poverty, authoritarnism and russification ; any glorification of USSR is a disgrace towards all minorities, who ended up in the Soviet Union after WW2 (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Eastern Poland, Eastern Finland).

  • @pao5567

    @pao5567

    14 күн бұрын

    @@mariopopa1350 >poverty Watch le video, also pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2430906/ >authoritarianism Watch le video >russification You still speak your language kek

  • @danielk934

    @danielk934

    10 күн бұрын

    Feudalism existed mainly in underdeveloped countries, like Romania and Hungary Poland before 1939 had Ukrainian East, which was super underdeveloped and rural While Czechoslovakia, yes, it was developed

  • @mariostefanescu16
    @mariostefanescu1614 күн бұрын

    29:03 I doubt your information because in Romania, people stood in queue for food. For a family of four, the ration card provided 2 loaves of bread, 300 grams of meat, and 1 kilogram of bananas and oranges ONLY at Christmas. For Romania, communism meant a dark period in which the people starved while the party's nomenklatura rode around in Mercedes and Audi cars. Tens of thousands of lives were destroyed by the communists through forced collectivization, which employed intimidation tactics reminiscent of a horror movie. Peasants who resisted were, at best, brutally beaten; some had their noses or fingers cut off. The "Securitate," the political police of the Romanian Communist Party, monitored you nonstop, even for an innocuous joke about a party leader. In the 1950s, they sent priests, theology students, and dissidents to the prison in Pitești, an event known as the "Pitești Experiment," where these people were tortured, mutilated, or even r@ped by their own cellmates, who were former dissidents but had become infamous criminals of the party through the experiment's success. The Romanian people never loved communism; they never chose this path but were forced into it by the Red Army and Stalin to live under a totalitarian regime. Over time, the propaganda heard by the people for 42 years began to take root in the minds of Romanians, creating mentalities that we, Romanians, cannot escape even today. Romanians applauded Ceaușescu and Dej only out of fear of the Securitate, not because they loved them. After the 1989 revolution, the Securitate did not cease its actions; it fired on the people during the revolution, took over all important positions, stole everything after the privatization of 1990, and now presents its conspiracy theories on Romania's largest TV stations, owned by them, trying to wash their hands of the people's blood. Regarding Romania's socialist economy, it was running at a loss. No factory, plant, or enterprise made a profit; all further indebted the country's economy just to create jobs for the people and give them the illusion that everything was fine. Although Marx advocated for workers' rights, they were nonexistent in Romania. My grandfather worked in a glass factory for 12 hours a day, 6 days a week, like a slave. He and millions of others who worked under these conditions inhaled all kinds of dangerous chemicals. Due to this, along with other health problems, my grandfather died of lung cancer, and others developed Parkinson's disease from the chemicals used to paint the glass. Perhaps if communism had not existed and we had accepted the Marshall Plan, Romania would have had a strong economy equal to that of France or Germany, as Romania has all the necessary resources to be a top economy in the EU, but all the corruption implemented by the Securitate and the nomenklatura destroys this country's potential even today.

  • @aweirdredguy3885

    @aweirdredguy3885

    14 күн бұрын

    The reason the Marshall plan occured was because the US needed to expand and it was tantamount of having your politics and military tied to the US interests,the US didnt do it out of kindness,also if Romania under capitalism is still poor after more than 30 years of capitalism,how long must it go on until it work?

  • @aweirdredguy3885

    @aweirdredguy3885

    14 күн бұрын

    The Eu and its governments do not care about their citizens? Why do you think some rich french or american bankers would give a shit about you? They only care about exploiting you

  • @mariostefanescu16

    @mariostefanescu16

    14 күн бұрын

    @@aweirdredguy3885 In these 30 years of capitalism, Romania has had to make up for the deficit left by communism in order to reach a minimum level compared to other European countries. You can ask any Romanian, read any survey, and you will see that the best period in Romania's history is now, even though we are one of the most corrupt countries in Europe. The country's GDP is largely based on services. To get an idea, remove the percentage of services, which is around 30%-40% of the country's GDP, and you will see the level we were at during communism. Personally, I do not like the fact that Romania is developing so slowly, I do not like wild capitalism, and I believe that the state should be involved in the economy to provide entrepreneurs and workers with secure jobs, development, and a good living standard. Unfortunately, we still need time to fill the gaps left by communism.

  • @aweirdredguy3885

    @aweirdredguy3885

    13 күн бұрын

    @@mariostefanescu16 capitalism is based on profits not needs,maybe socialism in Romania was flawed but your country isnt any better,the USSR industrialized in 25 years,your country is still poor after 30 years of capitalism,if you believe it will work then you might as well wait until the sun goes red giant

  • @mariopopa1350

    @mariopopa1350

    12 күн бұрын

    @@aweirdredguy3885 My man, you know nothing about Romania. It had a GDP growth of 900% from ‘89 to 2024, it has a higher gdp per capita than Russia and nearly all its neighbours, Romanian average wages are 1200-1300€ before tax and 750-800€ after tax per month. Romania under capitalism is soo much better, in fact Romanians nowdays live better than they ever lived. We still have a lot of problems, like corrupt politicians and very bad political parties, but this is the fault of ex communists, who abuse trust of their people (PSD).

  • @danielsz8222
    @danielsz822210 күн бұрын

    I'm sorry but its wrong on so many levels. You said that central Europe was this poor underdeveloped world with only peasents before communism. It's so far from the truth. I am hungarian so I can mainly talk about Hungary. Budapest was one of the most modern cities in Europe. We had the first metro system in continental Europe and we had one of the best if not the best public transport system in Europe. People from Vienna looked at Budapest as a role model and they were pissed that Vienna doesn't develop as fast. The Austro-Hungarian empire especially Hungary had the most extensive railway system, during that era. Look at a european railway map the hungarian lines are still one of the most extensive today because the lines built back than. Budapest, and Hungary in general had some great Universities but there were also in Zagreb, Prague, Bratislava, Belgrade etc. I mean Nikola Tesla studied in central Europe. The Czechs had some of the best industries. i mean Timisoara was the first city in Europe to have electricity. There were villages in Hungary where people lived in beautiful (idk the name of the style) houses. And yes there were a lot of poor people and in general Central Europe was poorer than western Europe but it wasn't that much of as a difference as you talk about it. During the Habsburg times Central Europe was very prosperous. There is a reason behind that most cities in the area of the former empire look very much alike. because they were built back than because there was enough money to do it. What you are saying is here is simply not true. Maybe for the areas that were under Russian rule idk. But during communism in a lot of countries you couldn't by basic necessities like meat, fuel etc. And yes there were positive stuff as well but there were much more negatives and saying that communism saved us is just not true. It killed our economies and people had to live in fear. And I tell you that I would rather live in hunger and poverty than live under the opression of communists no matter what they do. And btw to think that worker rights were only bad in Eastern Europe is just pathetic. Western Europe was the same but look at the outcome how did western Europe look like after the fall of the iron curtain and how did eastern europe look like. And choose which one was better.

  • @Mangoeplanter

    @Mangoeplanter

    10 күн бұрын

    Akkor tudod hogy annak idején kelet európába szar volt a helyzet amikor Magyarország volt a "legvidámabb barakk"

  • @ile1237

    @ile1237

    9 күн бұрын

    Hungary exploited lands of other ethnic groups, the same way Austria did. It's easy to make Budapest developed when you take resources from other lands.

  • @Mangoeplanter

    @Mangoeplanter

    9 күн бұрын

    @@ile1237 it was the part of hungary so it was ours. Weak argument

  • @danielsz8222

    @danielsz8222

    9 күн бұрын

    @@ile1237 Also Timisoara was the first European city to have electricity and it had romanian majority. And I could go on with examples like this

  • @xxvxxv5588

    @xxvxxv5588

    9 күн бұрын

    ​@@ile1237 Reminder that the richest inhabitants of Hungarian part of Austria-Hungary were overwhelmingly Jews. Ethnic Hungarians had political privileges, but they were not economically the most prosperous.

  • @fidgeysrii4888
    @fidgeysrii488815 күн бұрын

    great video

  • @kosmicheskiprah
    @kosmicheskiprah15 күн бұрын

    VERY very good Balkan bratko. Thank you very much for exposing the real truth, factology and exhaustive energy based on details. P.S. Nice sexy voice :D Greetings from Bulgaria.

  • @BalkanOdyssey_

    @BalkanOdyssey_

    14 күн бұрын

    Lol thank you bratko

  • @NikolayNikoloff

    @NikolayNikoloff

    4 күн бұрын

    Lol, you're both morons batkovtzi 🤣

  • @McHobotheBobo
    @McHobotheBobo15 күн бұрын

    Chemical Mind just did the same title but for Western Europe! Looking forward to watching you both, and both statements are utterly true, communism forced humanity to do be and live better

  • @flameguy3416

    @flameguy3416

    15 күн бұрын

    Live better? It put tens of millions into the ground directly due to its policies. Grow up you idealist.

  • @BalkanOdyssey_

    @BalkanOdyssey_

    14 күн бұрын

    It's actually a two-part collaboration, but nice that you noticed both without knowing that in advance lol

  • @McHobotheBobo

    @McHobotheBobo

    14 күн бұрын

    @@BalkanOdyssey_ Yes I noticed that shortly after as I initially just saw the uploads lol

  • @robertmartin6800

    @robertmartin6800

    6 күн бұрын

    Emphasis on “force.”

  • @McHobotheBobo

    @McHobotheBobo

    6 күн бұрын

    @@robertmartin6800 As opposed to being forced to be worse? Look up the enclosure acts and cry me a river

  • @redElim
    @redElim14 күн бұрын

    Banger vid. Really well made!

  • @NikolayNikoloff

    @NikolayNikoloff

    4 күн бұрын

    What's banging exactly, the mummy of Lenin or? 😂

  • @dkgamers1385
    @dkgamers13854 күн бұрын

    Nice video! Could i ask something? Why did you delete your video titled " the demonization of serbia " Did something change in your prespective , does it not reflect your political beliefs anymore , or maybe you think it isnt as well thought ,or something else ???

  • @poli6ady
    @poli6ady9 күн бұрын

    I trust your video will be good and of high quality as always.. But there are some concerning flags such as using only references produced during soviet times from soviet sources, and frankly, as a person who grew up with the propaganda, you should know better! And you failed to mention that the severe state of the balkans was directly after freeing ourselves from ottoman rule. Followed shortly by the Balkan wars and WW1. I mean, Bulgaria for sure was up and running for the first time independently as much as possible. Good things were happening and BAM communism, dark ages, all the progress smashed into pieces. And as much as our parents and grandparents are claiming the same things over and over again, like a broken record - we worked, BUT WE HAD EDUCATION, WE HAD OUR OWN INDUSTRY, WE WERE SAFE sfwjepof[wfklsflwef Little did they know that while we had 'such a flourishing industry' Bulgaria bankrupted 8 times and took loans from the Union. We were safe because it was a huge police state. We were producing for other soviet economies to take. There are good sides of course but the truth is - this was the dark ages for most of us and the effect is still ongoing til this day. I have to admit, one of the best propaganda campaigns that holds a grip on my grandparents still. And of course the regime was fake, that's why it didn't work. The leaders of all soviet countries had palaces built from the most luxurious imported materials.. anyway. And you should really experience it to understand. Stop romanticising the communist states. It did not work the way it was intended. Did you forget Chernobyl? For fks sake, people ate from that irradiated food because our government did not tell them for 2 weeks and hid in a government building with clean water and safe food.. just so the regime doesn't crack in front of the people's eyes. There you go. Now I will watch the video.

  • @Santa-cv4vu
    @Santa-cv4vu11 күн бұрын

    Hey Oddysey, Balkan neighbour here I have heard many stories from socialist times about: Theft at workplace Lazy workers not doing their job, because payment was guranteed. The lazy,stealing and unprogressive ones benefitted, while smart, honest and hard working were not stimulated😅 I think this can be really demoralizing for someone who wants to work hard and honestly. Truth is most human beings aren't moral at all and you cannot expect from them to care about anything else further from their egoistic needs..

  • @JmKrokY

    @JmKrokY

    11 күн бұрын

    True

  • @franzupet4406

    @franzupet4406

    11 күн бұрын

    I is more fun to steel from job in capitalism :D

  • @franzupet4406

    @franzupet4406

    11 күн бұрын

    You know we have successful companies in Slovenia during Yugoslav times. ISKRA, GORENJE, TAM, TOMOS, ECT. After system change all companies were privatised and sold for cheap to forenes or stopped operating. We had industy and it was strong, inovative and most importantly we were proud of it. Now we have crumbling remains and bulshit jobs. If someone take a bolt or nut and work 1h less is still much better than having nothing or having class of people taking profit and distributing it to shareholders...

  • @JmKrokY

    @JmKrokY

    10 күн бұрын

    @@franzupet4406 You don't hate Capitalism, you hate the bad corrupted transition from Socialism to Capitalism that occured. Not the same thing.

  • @euphoriaggaminghd

    @euphoriaggaminghd

    10 күн бұрын

    Meanwhile bosnians albanians and macedonians all remember yugoslavia in far worse ways. As a guy from Kosovo, yugoslavia and socialism were the worst things to ever happen to us. We are very grateful we are free from that oppressive regime. Slovenes should be grateful they were privileged enough in that 'union'

  • @carolinehindman
    @carolinehindman4 күн бұрын

    Back in around 2014-15, youtube was flooded with videos about nazis, fascists, prosperity and life under those two ideologies. Fast forward to 2024, it is flooded with communism. I mean... that is indeed a great leap forward! 🤣 Btw my grandmother is from the former Czechoslovakia. Do you, like, wanna have a word with her about 1968?

  • @saintman9460

    @saintman9460

    4 күн бұрын

    Leap forward, you serious?

  • @carolinehindman

    @carolinehindman

    4 күн бұрын

    @@saintman9460 I was sarcastic with that statement obv 😐

  • @VON-O5
    @VON-O515 күн бұрын

    I have not watched this yet and I will after this comment is made. I just have a question. Isn’t it socialism that saved Eastern Europe, not communism? There has never been a communist society because that would require all countries to be socialist and then transition to communism. Aight, I'm gonna watch it now.

  • @CripplingDuality

    @CripplingDuality

    15 күн бұрын

    Remember that Marx and Engels did not distinguish between the two.

  • @icantaimpg3d776

    @icantaimpg3d776

    15 күн бұрын

    The word “socialism” has lost it’s revolutionary essence in some countries like the US and most Western and even people living in socialist countries know the word “communism” and hear them more than “socialism”.

  • @icantaimpg3d776

    @icantaimpg3d776

    15 күн бұрын

    @@CripplingDualitybut Lenin did though and what was the full name of Soviet Russia and Soviet Union ? Russian Socialist Federative Soviet Republic and Union of Soviet Socialist Republics respectively.

  • @knowledgeanddefense1054

    @knowledgeanddefense1054

    15 күн бұрын

    It wasn't socialist either, socialism requires social ownership by the working class - not replacing one top 1% with another and pretending like the proletariat controls things now (and then murdering the proletariat every time they criticize and protest you)

  • @piccalillipit9211

    @piccalillipit9211

    15 күн бұрын

    I can tell you as an author if you don't say "communism" 95% of people don't know what you are talking about. They think socialism is Bernie Sanders.

  • @honk813
    @honk81315 күн бұрын

    Well Ive watched it all after some time I have a few thoughts, whilst I can’t necessarily comment on the sources as I don’t have time to double check them besides looking over dates so I am somewhat conflicted over if they are using Soviet numbers…. Which we know were sometimes forged I won’t say always because sometimes they were truthful albeit slightly exaggerated as most economic data often is. On the point of inequality, whilst I will say inequality went sharply down on paper and in reality for the majority of people the problem was that politically it was even worse as Soviet authoritarianism effectively made political opposition completely impossible whilst in tsarist Russia they had a semi autonomous Duma (for a time only really late war did it finally seize back control) whilst economically they were much better off then previously they were also subjected to severe political inequality in some cases far more then in tsarist Russia with protests or strikes being not allowed, with even anti government demonstrations being even more brutally cracked down upon then even under the tsars. I don’t think think the mention of using the model of income of Soviet officials above average workers as a good judge, the Soviet Union was very corrupt, and whilst they didn’t make much more then workers, it’s difficult to track corruption when any criticism or investigation of the government from the outside would end up getting you labeled as a counterrevolutionary during stalins time, even Stalin leader of the Soviet Union didn’t keep money on him as he never needed to pay for he’d simply ask for it and because Stalin he’d get it, though financially not as rich they were far more politically able to do what they wished, capitalists could only dream of the level of state control leaders of the Soviet system could, as evidenced by Stalin and those whom used similar tactics. Also big point I don’t think you should be using modern day China as the example for wealth equality, they use the use very horrible working conditions with a horrifyingly authoritarian and repressive system of controlling workers, they aren’t controlling wealth acquisition for the good of the worker, but as another way of control over the economy and society they aren’t communist, they are autocratic state equivalent to tsarist Russia where any dissent is crushed as they yell about worker liberation they however care as much as bezos does for workers rights. Small mention though a Soviet citizen did have a millionaire (not in American in rubles). I think also think you shouldn’t treat the creation of the eastern block as building socialism, it was entirely and forcibly pushed upon its inhabitants with purges election fraud and suppression of any meaningful political opposition, whilst I did appreciate a condemnation of Stalin as many celebrate him blindly, I do think not making the distinction on it is a very dangerous idea not to mention them in the same section as your going point by point. Now you are right about numbers often being inflated for deaths across communist nations, and this is one of biggest problems with anti communists, a deliberate inflation of them for the magic “100 million” number, however the horror inflicted is undeniable across several regions with downright barbaric actions against ethnic groups, entire classes regardless of age and innocence, suppression of culture and religion, though I do appreciate shedding a light on MK ultra and other horrible crimes against workers, I do disagree with the idea Stalin was benign, communism in my opinion needs to continue to condemn the actions of murder and violent suppression of people like the poles, Jews and Ukrainians, even the United States didn’t resort to the level of widespread violence internally as the Soviets did (they did most of their terror abroad as did the Soviets) do think it’s a bit disengenous to quote a Marxist-Leninist when discussing political discourse instead of whom lived through both pre and post occupation of Eastern Europe in Poland or elsewhere, which would probably cast a more neutral light on what it was really like. I won’t state he’s lying because I can’t comment on that as I don’t know what he experienced but I do think the source is somewhat questionable being Albert Szymanski was according to my rough investigation born in 1941 in Czechoslovakia (I can’t confirm as he doesn’t have any good sources on him besides his bibliography.) think using a source from someone whom was born in the 1920s would have been better to get an idea on what pre and post occupation would be like. Think also the assessment of it not being terrible for political discourse misses a major issue, if you weren’t a communist or loyal to the party you weren’t allowed on the ballot or allowed to rule, or if you were unlucky enough to be the Romanian king despite being very popular forced into exile. Also the quote at 48:34 I’d have to argue against as increasingly anti communist sentiment was growing throughout the Soviet block, with the black ribbon day demonstrations that occurred just 2 years after the quote occuring, signifiying an increasing anti communist movement within the Soviet Union 56:48 I thank you for mentioning Russification as it doesn’t get mentioned enough, but I do wish you mentioned the banning of the Ukrainian national anthem in 1922, though the Soviet state also continued Russification of Ukraine encouraging mass immigration into Ukraine by Russians and in the tartars instance the near extermination of them as a culture. Also for the pole on popularity, I’m not entirely sure where the study come from beside it coming from an article by open democracy, so I don’t know if it’s correct though given how popular the Polish communist party is, I don’t think it’s correct though if there is more poles out there I’d appreciate it. Oh and small note. I’m not a capitalist I’m a syndicalist and simply dislike the acquisition of power on a centralized scale like that under the Soviet system.

  • @DerCent161

    @DerCent161

    15 күн бұрын

    I don't know what I would do without your Input 💀

  • @krasinmarinov

    @krasinmarinov

    15 күн бұрын

    5 hours later and you still didn't informed us of what you think/opinion

  • @honk813

    @honk813

    15 күн бұрын

    @@krasinmarinovapologies I took quite some time listening to it whilst struggling with work.

  • @pavelZhd
    @pavelZhd14 күн бұрын

    Regarding the "forced collectivization". It is actually pretty fascinating topic to study. Start by addressing the elephant in the room - yes, the plan collectivization caused many tragedies and loss of life that with better implementation could have been avoided. But at the same time all those "better implementations" we see now are just a hindsight. And when it was carried out it was new and untreated grounds. Basically it was recognized that a key factor in industrialization is transitioning from small scale farming to large scale farming. Because no matter what machinery you get and how many factories you build - if your population is in the field and not in the factory your economy does not work. You have to merge small farms into large farms. Large farms are more effective so they require less manpower to operate and all this manpower can then be funneled into growing inductry. However at the same time all the historical evidence of this farm aggregation in other countries showed that it follows a rather disturbing path. Some farmers who are better off start giving loans to their less fortunate neighbours. Then more likely than not those loans not being paid back result in larger farmer repossession the land of the smaller farmers and from there the process snowballs to end up with some winners at the top, and a lot of people who lost their land because they got screwed by their neighbours when they fell on hard times. And on one hand such disenfranchised people are about as likely to turn to crime as they are to seeking better life in the city at the factory (and with a lot of small arms still around in the population as a remnant of the civil war, getting a crime surge is not what you want). And the lucky landowners are... Well... Landowners. And USSR was not too keen on having those capitalists around. So a plan was made to expedite this process without relying on the "market forces" to spawn more capitalists. And while it had a lot of setbacks caused by both error made due to having little clue of what hidden problems might arise, and by resistance from the burgeoning wealthy farmers who correctly figured out that their dreams of becoming a superwealthy capitalist are now being ripped from under them (the Kulaks), but overall it did its job and with less death and suffering that the alternative would have caused.

  • @fankymonk8868

    @fankymonk8868

    14 күн бұрын

    You're goddamn right, Comrade.

  • @vadimk3484

    @vadimk3484

    14 күн бұрын

    Bukharin's group advocated for the "natural" approach to collectivization - first, let the kulaks naturally concentrate everything by means of capitalist competition, and then expropriate it from them already "collectivized". That approach was rejected as social-darwinism because it essentially meant that all the regular peasants would get fed to the kulaks and suffer in the process. In hindsight, maybe that way would've been better in the long run, because nobody would be stupid enough nowadays to deny that the kulaks were parasites, exploiters and criminals.

  • @pavelZhd

    @pavelZhd

    14 күн бұрын

    @@vadimk3484 even with all my annoyance at people trying to paint Kulaks as "honest hard working farmers who were punished by the government" I still would not even consider that dispelling such narrative could be worth even a fraction of suffering caused by this pauperisation instead of collectivization approach. Like eve as a joke such notion sounds incredibly poor taste to me.

  • @fankymonk8868

    @fankymonk8868

    14 күн бұрын

    @@vadimk3484 Yes, yes, because the kulaks would have just given away the loot that they had (no). Such an approach would unleash a new civil war. No one needed it. You probably have little or no knowledge of historical materialism, I strongly advise you to study it. And in general, philosophy as such, so as not to draw such conclusions based on idealism.

  • @robertkeaney9905

    @robertkeaney9905

    14 күн бұрын

    @@fankymonk8868 Its laughable that people are acting like the Kulaks were sugar cain plantation owners. They were relatively small farmers. Who didn't have much. But were despised by people who had even less than them. Going after the Kulaks was a cynical political play. To win over large chunks of the Proletariat. Since poor peasants in the country side aren't familiar enough with the ultra rich to hate them or despise them, the same way that a factory worker might despise their rich fat cat boss. But the Kulak, that shit head neighbor who had two cattle while you had none, was familiar. And familiarity breeds contempt In the Targetting of the of the Kulaks we see an example of the Narcism of small differences. You see the same thing in modern leftist communities. Objectively, we might say things like "Eat the rich". But the people we hate the most are leftists like us who differ in some small but significant way.

  • @enriquelescure9202
    @enriquelescure920214 күн бұрын

    The Ottoman Empire de-criminalized homosexuality in 1856.

  • @eges72

    @eges72

    13 күн бұрын

    In fact homosexuality and transsexuality were not at all considered taboo in the Islamic world up until the early 20th century.

  • @thepunishersequence291

    @thepunishersequence291

    13 күн бұрын

    ​@@eges72 source?

  • @xxvxxv5588

    @xxvxxv5588

    11 күн бұрын

    ​​@@eges72 And that's mean that there is nothing inherently new and progressive about being pro-trance or pro- homosexuality.

  • @euphoriaggaminghd

    @euphoriaggaminghd

    10 күн бұрын

    ​@@xxvxxv5588Pro trans and Pro homosexuality? Why would anyone inherently be Pro these things? You mean Pro civil rights right

  • @Mangoeplanter

    @Mangoeplanter

    10 күн бұрын

    ​@@eges72yeah they killed you for that no questions asked

  • @vietnamfnf6162
    @vietnamfnf616215 күн бұрын

    0:30 i litteraly saw this is history exam training i did for no reason at all.

  • @timryan8337
    @timryan833713 күн бұрын

    Can you throw your citations in the video description?

  • @BalkanOdyssey_

    @BalkanOdyssey_

    13 күн бұрын

    They're all in a comment of mine here, should be somewhere towards the top

  • @themaninthehighcastle9906
    @themaninthehighcastle99063 күн бұрын

    i didn't. it ruined eastern Europe.

  • @Ankhor
    @Ankhor10 минут бұрын

    Glad to see the channel doing well bro

  • @davideriksson8479
    @davideriksson84798 күн бұрын

    How do communists view contracts between individuals? Suggest I offer someone to deliver goods that I produce to the local store. If this makes me a 5% profit and the one who delivers the goods a 3% profit, is this seen as unequal since I made a bigger profit, or is it fair since we both made a profit?

  • @nikolaideianov5092
    @nikolaideianov509215 күн бұрын

    46:05 let be fair its not like the NKVD didnt do a LOT of bad things

  • @waltonsmith7210

    @waltonsmith7210

    15 күн бұрын

    I'm always suspicious of exaggeration.

  • @lidyagor

    @lidyagor

    13 күн бұрын

    It didn't do bad things.

  • @danielk934
    @danielk93415 күн бұрын

    Finally, something based. База! Вот она, БАЗА!

  • @BenjaminWalburn
    @BenjaminWalburn10 күн бұрын

    10:48 "yassification of leadership" is all I could hear

  • @alxsblv6164
    @alxsblv61647 күн бұрын

    I cant even imagine shit-storm in the comment section!

  • @11RESERVERED
    @11RESERVERED9 күн бұрын

    The fact is though, situations like the Holodomor and the treatment of Poland by the Soviet Union will just be ignored by so many here by saying how good communism is. You can say that life was better tha expected and comfortable there, it wasn't worth it to kill so much in that time period for the public. Some would say America is the the same way, but not nearly to the extent.

  • @InsertNameHereBoi

    @InsertNameHereBoi

    8 күн бұрын

    Did you watch the video? He clearly mentions existing socialism's many mistakes (and mentions that he will talk about it in more detail in another video)

  • @11RESERVERED

    @11RESERVERED

    6 күн бұрын

    @@InsertNameHereBoi Yes, but he mentions specifically how the Soviet Union supported the other languages and cultures. That is wrong, they tried to erase Ukrainian culture and that mindset of them never even existing is what caused the war right now. Not to mention he said it is western propaganda about the mistreatment of civilians and there are many who happily escaped. And if I recall he said the first person who landed on the moon was from the Soviet Union, that is a lie. It was Neil Armstrong

  • @CptHalifax
    @CptHalifax15 күн бұрын

    Quick note. KZread showed me several advertisements for the German far right party AfD throughout your video. 😅 if it’s possible for you to block that garbage to be shown in your videos I would be very happy 😄

  • @elclaustrocl

    @elclaustrocl

    14 күн бұрын

    uBlock extension ;)

  • @8lec_R

    @8lec_R

    14 күн бұрын

    KZread creators can't do that anymore. Not easily at least. The council of geeks KZread channel had a video on it. If I remember correctly you need to go to your ad sense account and block it from there. Again I'm not sure. But you will have to help BO with URLs and the name of the videos/articles or whatever it was. He won't know

  • @fedupN
    @fedupN15 күн бұрын

    Bravo!

  • @franzupet4406
    @franzupet440611 күн бұрын

    Great work comerade! Can you make video about modern socialist planing and CYBERNETICS? Maby conect with Cibcom it would be nice to make video about that together with other chanels to make left rethink planing and understand its enormous capabilities. Specialy with moderen computers and networks we have now. I am student of electrical engineering and I would be happy to help! Zdravo iz Slovenije :)

  • @andreilogin4681
    @andreilogin46813 күн бұрын

    You are talking about western empires taking our resources but omit the Soviet Union doing the same thing for 50 years. This makes the entire video pointless.

  • @onezero3218
    @onezero32186 күн бұрын

    The quote from Michael Parenti is right to the point. I can provide an example to which I was first hand witness. In 1989 the communist party in Bulgaria decided to let the Turkish population leave for Turkey. The Turks in Bulgaria were victims of the East vs. West confrontation - Turkey's intelligence was using them to sabotage Bulgaria in every possible way, Bulgaria was repressing them in return - in May./June 1989 when they left their language was banned and their names were changed to Bulgarian ones. I lived in a region where the Turks were 90% of the population so I know very well what happened. Upon leaving they were sure they are going to the paradise where they will immediately get huge salaries, Mercedes Benz.... and all the luxuries of Capitalism we used to see on the screen. Two months later they started to return, again en mass.....to the country which changed their names, Bulgaria was still communist. Many were crying when crossing the border back. later I talked to some of the neighbors - they were genuinely shocked by the fact that that they faced unemployment, had to actively look for a job, their labor was underpaid, had to work 12 hour shifts, had to pay for medical and dental care, and so on - they could not grasp this new reality and the alternative to return to the country which changed their names was a lot better option.

  • @hearthstoneencounters1173

    @hearthstoneencounters1173

    Күн бұрын

    the year was 1986

  • @LexStrat
    @LexStrat12 күн бұрын

    Мы в гражданской войне потеряли 10 млн человек, потом в великой отчечественной 27 млн, а потом в 90 еще лямов 10

  • @ohayes86
    @ohayes867 күн бұрын

    Interesting take. One thing I would say is that I liked the old left better than the left we have today

  • @jenniferhuckleby3266
    @jenniferhuckleby32663 күн бұрын

    Okay sure they built strong economy's. But to do it atrocities were committed im not sure if that tradeoff was good

  • @Erty_
    @Erty_4 күн бұрын

    This video is such cope xddd 4 min in and half of his facts are wrong

  • @chaoticcritical9335
    @chaoticcritical933510 күн бұрын

    Out of curiosity, whyd you sponsor surfshark?

  • @blakk6lass
    @blakk6lassКүн бұрын

    it’s almost like being able to actually harness the power of your work force by making them willing to work brings homeless rates down and brings economic growth

  • @0Anomalous0
    @0Anomalous015 күн бұрын

    Agreed ✅️

  • @giorgiocecchini9742
    @giorgiocecchini974214 күн бұрын

    "stalinism" dude why??? 🤦‍♂️

  • @KenstutisVytautas
    @KenstutisVytautas11 күн бұрын

    Honestly question: are you really a Serbian native speaker? Since you have a strong British accent, even if you pronounce Serbian words or in general words from different languages.

  • @BalkanOdyssey_

    @BalkanOdyssey_

    11 күн бұрын

    Yes of course, I grew up in Bosnia. I pronounce words from other languages with an english accent to avoid butchering names and sounding weird. Yugoslav-related names and such I pronounce ad they'd be pronounced in my local accent

  • @martinlisitsata
    @martinlisitsata15 күн бұрын

    That's a lie (or simply a mistake) 55:00 , from the french to the ottoman empire there are many countries that decriminalized it before the Russians . Everything else (depending on your definition of vague wording ) is more or less true .

  • @wojciech-aleksjejdiablewic884
    @wojciech-aleksjejdiablewic88415 күн бұрын

    I think the main problem why it all lead to this was the Autoritarian policies and mainly The Stalin Paranoya that later lead to purges and implementic the same system of repression in all socialist state. Because of that many unesessery actions and spliting Europe in half we now need to deal with all those actions made by one and only... Russia. If Soviet Leadership was more reformist and avoid brezhnev era...Meaby world might be been better place? (Or meaby is just my peak fiction)

  • @victorconway444

    @victorconway444

    15 күн бұрын

    You call Stalin "paranoid" yet the people he suspected of being revisionists...turned out to be revisionists once they took control of the party. Stalin and the hardliners of the party should've conducted another purge in the 40s and 50s. The destabilization caused by the German invasion gave the capitalist-roader bureaucrats too much power. Stalin had plans to dissolve this counter-revolutionary clique in the party/state and restrengthen the proletarian dictatorship, but he prioritized rebuilding eastern europe and weathering the crises and feared rocking the boat too much. His declining health and gradual seclusion from state affairs might have also played a part. But I feel like this was an error that gave Khrushchev and his cronies the opportunity they needed to conduct their Thermidor.

  • @funny3591

    @funny3591

    15 күн бұрын

    The authoritarianism was definitely an issue to an extent but moreso because opportunism in the party wasn't countered effectively and just relied on purges getting rid of these elements which just led to chaos as important figures that served key roles in the party who couldve been debated and convinced of a more correct path were purged. Id argue that the Maoist ideas around constant debate and building up organic bases of support that have the ability to attack the party if they fall into opportunism is the path future revolutions will go down, although there is still a lot of work needed to understand how to go about this considering the failures of the cultural revolution in China to actually do what it was meant to do and the issues Maoist parties are running into with rightism.

  • @knowledgeanddefense1054

    @knowledgeanddefense1054

    15 күн бұрын

    @@victorconway444 Nice propaganda, isn't it convenient that anyone who questioned the holy supremacy of Mr. "commodity production in one state capitalist country is socialism because I say so" turned out to be revisionists?

  • @victorconway444

    @victorconway444

    15 күн бұрын

    @@knowledgeanddefense1054 Lmao tell me you haven't read Lenin without saying you haven't read Lenin. Might be difficult for a western leftoid to understand, but "state capitalism" was actually a good thing for the USSR with its conditions. As was commodity production, a means to facilitate exchange between urban enterprises and the collective farms. But I'm interested to hear how you would do it better.

  • @knowledgeanddefense1054

    @knowledgeanddefense1054

    15 күн бұрын

    @@victorconway444 I'm not from the west a-hole and no it wasn't, if you read MARX instead of his later revisionists you'd see that he advocated for worker councils (like those soviets which lenin supported up until the moment they stopped voting for him, afterwards he started making things up against them and grabbed all power to himself) and one of the last things he ever wrote was his admiration for specifically Russian peasant communes... too bad the bolsheviks hated the peasantry and murdered them and their families in droves, huh? I'm not even a marxist but I agree with Marx, Luxemburg and council communists that this is how you do it.

  • @zubal6121
    @zubal612115 күн бұрын

    Holy shit are you going trotskyite? And I thought you abandoned liberalism.

  • @zubal6121

    @zubal6121

    15 күн бұрын

    @@April-zr4bihe said that sioc is an „ad-hoc“ theory and talked about „stalinism“

  • @April-zr4bi

    @April-zr4bi

    15 күн бұрын

    nevermind about my (now deleted) comment holy shit I was NOT expecting that from him anyone using the term "stalinism" without the slightest hint of irony is genuinely so confusing to me

  • @zubal6121

    @zubal6121

    15 күн бұрын

    @@April-zr4bi it also could be baby leftism as he doesn‘t properly understand sioc, either that or trotskyite misconstruction of the theory

  • @April-zr4bi

    @April-zr4bi

    15 күн бұрын

    @@zubal6121 it genuinely sounds like something i would hear from a disingenuous anti-communist on tiktok or something 😭

  • @BalkanOdyssey_

    @BalkanOdyssey_

    14 күн бұрын

    Let's say I'm a baby leftist. Explain the irony of using the term "Stalinism" in a few sentences. I'll hear you out.

  • @SomeGuyFromBalkan
    @SomeGuyFromBalkan15 күн бұрын

    Was ur anti serbian propaganda exposing video removed or?? Cuz i cant find it?

  • @everythingiseconomics9742
    @everythingiseconomics97424 күн бұрын

    Socialist countries weren't the first to decriminalize homossexuality. I don't know much about this history throughout the world, but once Brazil became independent, in 1822, homosexuality stopped being illegal and never became illegal again. The Ottoman empire de jure decriminalized it in 1858

  • @gustavsberzins5639
    @gustavsberzins563915 күн бұрын

    The Baltics: Say sike right now

  • @economicserfdom4087

    @economicserfdom4087

    15 күн бұрын

    The people that opposed socialism in the baltics are all people that collaborated with the nazis and participate on the holocaust

  • @markmeteor575
    @markmeteor57514 күн бұрын

    I am happy to see your bravery in post this video with the title you gave it. And overall I think you did a great job getting the point of communism across. However, I do believe that when it comes to explaining the unrest near the end of (for example) soviet unions downfall, as nothing more then a spoiled younger generation unfairly makes it seem that there was little to no reasoning behind the backing of capitalist parties during that time. When around that time (to use the Kazakhstani experience as an example) there were multiple grievances that were never explained. Such as the Famines, the little Russification that was happening across the nation (mainly the North) or the fact that near the end of the soviet Unions life they literally had a Russian guy basically assigned to their republic. And you have some more material reasonings beside the unrest and support for capitalist parties that were promising to fix these issue, (Even though they were lying).

  • @BalkanOdyssey_

    @BalkanOdyssey_

    14 күн бұрын

    Thank you for the feedback and the support, I appreciate it. I completely understand what you mean with my explaination of the downfall - it is of course faaar from being the exclusive reason as to why socialism collapsed. I'll be making a proper video outlining all of the various reasons for that in the future - this was supposed to serve as a reference in the context of this video (the achievements of socialism) and people's paradoxically negative attitude towards its end.

  • @8lec_R
    @8lec_R14 күн бұрын

    Great great video. Loved it. Also nice to see Chem 😊

  • @user-lq7nq1dg8u
    @user-lq7nq1dg8u11 күн бұрын

    Yep! Another proletarian classic 🚩🏴