Suddenly, the UP is now also for rent! 80€ per lap inc fuel OR 60€ if you book before February! Shoot me an email: misha@apex-nuerburg.com

@TheMilenkata

6 жыл бұрын

supreme

@cougaraus500

6 жыл бұрын

Love this video. You really know your UP's! Great to hear all the differences and improvements with the 7UP

@dro167de

6 жыл бұрын

Misha Charoudin ö

@kevv010

6 жыл бұрын

Misha Charoudin TC off in UP! : 1. Car off but key switched on 2. Put hazards on 3. Push the gaspedal 5x (tc off light must go on now) 4. Start car and have fun 🚗💨🔥

@top-gangsta8327

6 жыл бұрын

Commie moron, aren't renting a car capitalist thing???

If you think of the difference in price not as 5000 euros more, but as 40 - 45% more, then it becomes even more ridiculous.

@mgcharoudin

6 жыл бұрын

javoresku yep

@TheMilenkata

6 жыл бұрын

Rule number one for creating m.strategy for firm that makes money from selling cars or financial services. Never tell the price difference in %. Подобно на бързите кредити, не казват лихвата на година, а на месечна база.

I like the 6-speed gearboxes... But i get the point... not even a TC off on the GTi!? Why is it a GTI then? 1.4 TSI with that 6-speed, better brakes and a more sport-focus suspension (and the TC button) would be perfect!

@psewgobind

6 жыл бұрын

Here in Canada, you can get a base Civic Sedan LX for $12k GBP (with K20C2 engine, heated seat/mirror, climate control, android auto/apple etc). Cool thing is, when you turn off the Civic's traction control, you can completely fry the front tires while standing still and TC stays off. Perhaps VW should check out Honda's TC tuning for everyday use.

@borisbommen

6 жыл бұрын

edcunhaph its an UP! It is marketing and not an track car. If you want those specs get an Polo GTI.

@weizenobstmusli8232

4 жыл бұрын

Its cheap. Maybe they build a 30k Up in the future.

@hgrezi7249

3 жыл бұрын

TC is part of the ESP, and that got mandatory in the EU after 2014. You can't really turn it off in new cars, hence "Sport Modes". I Gues VW simply did not wanted to program a specific ESP software for a cars that was sold only in homeopathic numbers in it's very short production time.

@mickyryan8474

11 ай бұрын

@@borisbommenif you’re goner spend the extra money better off with the Fiesta ST slaps the Polo GTI

Totally agree mate! When I bought my original 70bhp UP in 2013 there was talk of the UP GTi coming out, fast forward 5 years and its finally here, yet it has nothing to shout about at all, how can VW badge something "GTi" and have the cheek to slap drum brakes on it and not allow ESP to be diss engaged. The 6th gear would be welcome on the highway though, proving its actually longer than the current 5th. Cheers buddy

@yf-zp5zf

6 жыл бұрын

For a big part of customers, marketing > product value. Look at McDonalds, Apple...

@carlosandleon

6 жыл бұрын

has the same performance as the orignal golf gti, which they were aiming for, considering they have the nearly the same dimensions and weight.

@JayNL

6 жыл бұрын

They should have put the 1.5 EVO in it!

@kanervatie

6 жыл бұрын

It should be named UP-R! and have a 2 liter 300hp engine.

@oldcargeezer

6 жыл бұрын

Have you actually driven one? The brakes are fine for one thing, and most people would never trouble the ESP let alone want it disengaged

TC off in UP! : 1. Car off but key switched on 2. Put hazards on 3. Push the gaspedal 5x (tc off light must go on now) 4. Start car and have fun 🚗💨🔥

@jonathan2fast4u

4 жыл бұрын

It work only at low km

@kevv010

4 жыл бұрын

@@jonathan2fast4u I know

@tadassmolskas3014

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevv010 so its useless

Hi Misha, Although I agree with you normally, I do think that your missing the point slightly on the GTI, not everyone would want to modify a 90ps TSI as it would void the warranty and the GTI is about creating some theatre everyday for normal journeys which it does very well, it also looks cool and handles quite well given its size. I wish it had LED lights as standard and better bolsters on the seats but it doesn't take away from how much fun the car is it also sounds great when you are driving it. I work in sales at a VW dealership in England and have been driving the Up! GTI for a few days and it never fails to put a smile on my face, that's what makes this car special :)

9:35 i payed for the whole speedometer so i will use the whole speedometer

@katzii9430

2 жыл бұрын

My Seat Arosa did 170kmh The top speed is 151kmh The speedo goes to 200kmh I am kind of disappointed...

Love the video, thanks for posting. I have a stock standard Up, and I absolutely love the car. Incidentally, it's the 2 door version with leather seats (or probably pleather) as opposed to the usual cloth seats. I'd love to do some mods to the car, but that'll have to come later when finances allow. I'm from South Africa.

I totally agree with you, i'm looking for a Up! as my first car and was also looking into the Gti but wasn't impressed, and this makes my choice much easier. Now i just need to find some good seats for in the front. Btw Thank you for going into so much detail to explain your stance on this topic

Nice Vlog as always - well done for keeping content coming during the winter. I agree with you on the UP! GTI - you've done so much to your own UP! that a GTI would be a disappointment at this stage.

Here in Brazil the TSI came with 105 HP and 16.8 kgfm, so a bit more then in Europe. That makes the difference even smaller. People are remapping and getting something around 150 HP without any related engine damages. But the biggest gain I see is that they found a way to attenuate the TC in the process and forcing it to be less intrusive. A huge nice collateral. I'm driving one abanero TSI CrossUp!

lol misha don't forget to breathe :D

You forgot about the part where the GTI weighs almost 100KG more then the TSI which is just plain stupid.

Nice video, very informative. Good points! Keep up the good work.

A GTI still won't allow you to disable the traction control = EPIC FAIL!

@Snake2303

6 жыл бұрын

yes you can. but you need i man who can do it for you :)

@rafinharoxx

6 жыл бұрын

you just have to remove the first fuse (nº30) to turn off the TC, we have some OBD2 TC controller too....

@neovenom9833

6 жыл бұрын

I just have to push a button in my car which is ...not a GTI.

@martinallenuk

6 жыл бұрын

Easily done.

I have the naturally aspirated 60 hp one... I wanted to configure my own with 75 hp because 60 sounded ridiculous... VW told me we'd had to wait over 3 months and I just couldn't, so I got it from a dealership that had the 60 hp automatic ones in stock. The single clutch automatic is kinda bad, but once you learn how to drive it, it's... okay. The 60 hp engine is what surprised me though: I was able to pull off a 0-100 in about 8 seconds and the engine doesn't sound too bad when accelerating! It has a deep beefy roar to it, compared to a four cylinder. It kinda sounds like a V6 tbh... love the sound of the n.a. engine! Even on the highway, people are so surprised how quick it gets up to speed... The transmission happily downshifts to a (very) low gear (which is necessary to have at least some torque) and will overtake pretty much everyone. It has done 180 km/h at a little over 4K rpm (it's limited to 4K but sometimes will exceed 4K just a little bit) and is so much faster and snappier than my friend's 70+ hp Smart ForFour that does 130 at like 5000 rpm... I never thought about the TSI engine because I haven't had very good experiences with VAG's 4 cylinder TSI engines (very high fuel consumption, unreliability, misfires, uneven idle, ...). I see why a turbo makes so much more sense in this car, but honestly, even the 60 hp got my wheels spinning more than I want it too when it gets just a little wet outside because it's so lightweight and because it sends almost all of its torque to its wheels so quickly... Only when turning into a street that goes uphill (car goes to second), you notice it's a small three cylinder: even while flooring it, it picks up speed rather slowly... It's not my dream car, it's *very* basic and it's kind of too small for me, but it's a fun little car though!

The first time I saw it was last year in Worthersee.. First reaction : no rear brake discs , no decent support on the seats and a lot of hard plastic on the dash , doorpanels ,.. It is most certainly not worth the amount of cash you have to pay for it.. So Misha , I'm with you on this one. If you want a performance UP! , buy the TSI and use the extra money to do upgrades.

I love how he pans to the empty space where the GTI would have been :D

Still think the G40 Polo is the best small sports car VW have ever made, that had vented discs up front and again drums on the rear, brake fade was pretty alarming on it. It put out about 115-120 BHP as standard, which doesn't seem much but as it was supercharged the power was available pretty low down, and it had close ratio box too, which gave it pretty good acceleration for the late 80's, and pretty nasty torque steer, still a nice wee car to drive, I loved mine.

When I was watching the grand tour and they mentioned the traction control, the first thing that came to my mind was you Misha xD

The reason i bought my Up Gti, is because its as close to the original Golf Gti as its possibly to be. Almost identical horsepower figures, 0-60 times almost the same, as is the top speed. The original 1977 Gti ALSO HAD REAR DRUM BRAKES, as does the UP., so there's no complaints there. The Up is a back to basics fun warm hatch, just brilliant fun to own and drive. The biggest reason for my purchase, was because i already own a Move Up!, which is a great town car, and i simply love the looks of the Up Gti. That's all that matters.

Great video!

Good argument mate ..But 90% of Gti buyers will be driving it around the city and parking outside gyms and coffee shops and love the brand name i personally love the Up Gti its a great little package and the 5K premium u pay will hold more on resale than a ur lower model in stock form ..Great vid

@HermanWillems

4 жыл бұрын

Why does everything these days have to be brand, but not actualy do the things the brand stand for. Its for all consumer stuff. After they have "the name" they lose quality.

If the up reaches more than 200 kp/h in 4th gear, wouldn't it be smart to chance the gears in the dif (if possible) to shorten the gear ratio? Tell me if i'm wrong.

U know.. still waiting for the rg video hahahahaha..

Well thought out explanation Misha, you brought up a lot of good points that VW should be able to address if they care to do so. Perhaps they will do so in some sort of "UP! R" version?

Agree 100 % regarding the standard seats. I got an up as a work car but had to swap it out for a fiesta, just because the seat hurts my back!

Had the same thoughts about the Up GTI a couple weeks ago while planed to buy one. At the end it was to expensive for what it is and what it overs so I ended up with a used Twingo RS for a third of the price. Sure it has a totally different Engine but still they very comparable. And most important difference, you can turn off the TC to 100% just by pressing the button.

Agreed. "We" have the same problem with the Renault Twingo/smart forfour : traction control can't be desactivated. Such a pity for a rear engine/propulsion car.

Well JP wants to give his up a quattro system and tune the 1.8T to 500hp, but I still wonder what could the max. power output of the stock 1.0l can be... Maybe around 200hp while still getting good economy and being reliable?

The thumbnail is confusing. I thought there will be a foodshot but there wasn't any. So what was in that bowl? I really wonder how the up gti will be sold and how those cars will be used

@mgcharoudin

6 жыл бұрын

Chips.

You said you went on a trip with 5 people in the Up. There are only 4 seatbelts, correct? This is what holds me back on buying an Up, there is room for 3 man in the back but no third seatbelt. If they stop you with a fifth person in a 4-seater, that's a pretty big ticket.

@mgcharoudin

6 жыл бұрын

Ottohub I was wrong lol

hi misha.nice videos.what mods have you done on the 7up enginewise?

Thank you for this video! I was thinking about getting a GTI but this actually gave me good doubts about it. Will probably start looking for a normal up! if the numbers add up. 👍🏻

@mgcharoudin

6 жыл бұрын

Go for TSI!

2 years late BuT i got a Question,Can they be Shipped to the USA? Or would that fall into the 25yr thing like the skylines and stuff like that?

I'm still waiting for the UP! R420 4Motion

Actualy I love the up with your smaller wheels than the ones on the gti

Is your price comparison between a High Up TSI and a Up GTI? I don't have yet the retail price for a GTI but I guess that it wont be 5K, nor near, as you indicate.

Here in Brazil, people do not have much issues with traction control. Here we have one thing called "Tork One". It turns the traction control off and increases power.

How can you compare a track ready, and set up car, to a road going car, with no race car credentials. Just hate these foreigners who talk utter rubbish.

@mgcharoudin

4 жыл бұрын

Foreigners. Where are you based exactly?

I am buying one to stance out. Air ride with some nice simmons rims. Might get a large roof rack carrier case too. Love the aesthetics of the Up!

I was looking for a used TSI after having had 2 regular 75 hp ones that I absolutely loved as daily drivers. TSI's are rare as hens teeth (Sweden in my case) I've seen 3 for sale in a year, about the same for the GTI's. Got a GTI Yesterday, 23000 km's, one owner, mint condition from a private seller and they are the same price here as a used TSI, so in that case it's a no-brainer to get the GTI if not for the looks of it alone and again, for the rarity if anything with just 46 sold, dunno the sale numbers of the TSI ut it's more, I've yet to spot ONE GTI on the road.

I'm very interested but also a bit confused about the Up. Which models have the TSI engine? In the UK I go on Auto Trader and there is no sub varient called the TSI. So what model has it? Or have I missed something?

I'm thinking of getting a 90 PS 2018 Up! and tunning the software to 130hp. My biggest concerns are the transmission/clutch and warranty. Also I haven't found one to drive, I don't know if I'l like the handling coming from a 260PS Alfa 147 Q2 with a LSD and Koni suspension.

Let talk for real here, the Up needs an Aero Pack next. Maybe wider, lower, harder?

I know this is an old upload but @3.07 you're saying that with decent fuel 98 octane or higher this engine produces 90hp on the wheels or even higher. Now I have the same engine on the polo and always have had this fuel dilema. 95 or 100 octane. Vw suggests 95 octane for the engine and the general consesus is that higher octane fuel is wasted since the engine can not take advantage of the extra octanes. I have been using both 95 and 100 but havent yet fully understood. Is higher octane fuel better for this engine ?? Ive also tuned it with APR stage 1 95 RON still tuner suggests I only use 100RON !! My question is, should I use 95 or 100 Octane ?

The best content for day off!

I have a Up! TSI here in Brazil and our model comes with 125-130hp proved on many dynos, our Up model is flex-fuel too but we don't have many accessories and the TSI model only come in 4 doors --'.....some people are using the Golf TSI 1.4 turbo and reaching the 200hp in that little 3 cylinder engine...........and if you want so much to turn-off the TC, just remove the first fuse (nº30)

Watched further in now - do a few UK track days a year mostly leave my traction control on, never had disc cracking issues maybe I should switch it off more!

can't you turn off traction controll on the up using vagcom?

What tires are you using?

Misha ihr habt ja die recoursen könnt ihr vielleicht nen Up! Mit nem Polo GTI motor bauen? Einfach aus nem Totalschaden polo den Motor raus und rein in den UP! (Ich weiß es ist nicht so simpel) Aber ich glaube das wäre nicht so teuer wenn man nen alten up nimmt. Ich denke mal wenn man es vernünftig macht krigt man sogar TÜV

What tires on Your car??

I found out that my mk2 fabia 1.6tdi Monte Carlo came factory with 103bhp and 184ftlb of torque and took it to a dyno and it made 119.4bhp and 225ftlb of torque which is surprising and yet also came with drums on the rear in the uk for some reason.

Hi Misha have you installed a Sub in your UP?

Why Haven't you put disc brakes on the sub-7 Up? That would be a great UpGrade.

Question: would you have suggestion how to tune the 60HP version to an enjoyable level? Like maybe around 120-140 HP? Those are really cheap now used while the TSI is like double priced, so I was thinking if it would be possible to just get a 60 HP, then remap, add turbo, intercooler and all those step by step (meaning I could periodize my expenditures). What do you think?

@really_swaggles

11 ай бұрын

Bit late to the party but the gearbox would be your issue. They can only handle like 140nm or something before you'll wreck em

Did you try to remove a fuse for the traction control? It worked on the older model, so maybe it works in yours.

@mgcharoudin

6 жыл бұрын

It kills ABS too

@vassek15

6 жыл бұрын

Misha Charoudin another thing you don't need as proper racing driver :D

Did you upload this from Hospital?... Hope Diana is Okay

@mgcharoudin

6 жыл бұрын

She is laughing again!

Have you tried to remove the ABS fuse?

@mgcharoudin

6 жыл бұрын

And then no ABS? Nah

How much you spent in total upgrading your sub7 up? And have you used vbox, racelogic.. to measure its current 0-100? Thanks

@mgcharoudin

6 жыл бұрын

yf0013 suspension alone was 5.5k, but that was custom one off full race suspension. All the other UPgrades are roughly 5k combined as well. I did not measure the 0-100, because I don't care much. We measure it on the track and the time has dropped almost by 2 minutes.

@yf-zp5zf

6 жыл бұрын

Misha Charoudin Just was wondering if with the weight reduction you did, ecu remap and slicks it could reach 7'5 sec, which I think would be crazy for this car

Just clarify, you get a lot more standard features on the GTI. You will get more options included: Heated door mirrors Heated seats Brakes are larger. Proper GTI steering wheel. Beats sound 7 speakers And a few more... well worth it.

Fun stuff, there's no TC button, but it can easily be disabled through VCDS or OBDEleven. It even shows a neat "Anti-Slip Regulation (ASR) Has been disabled" on the dashboard's LCD Panel. I honestly wonder why they didn't add a TC OFF button, when they have everything necessary to logically single out the Traction Control. Marketing reasons maybe?

@mgcharoudin

6 жыл бұрын

GTMoraes VCDS said there was no permission. OBDElevel only does ESP, no TC

@GTMoraes

6 жыл бұрын

Oh, modules might be different between our cars, then I own a brazilian Up TSi, the ASR toggle is located in the Brakes module here. Maybe TC is regulated by your ESP module (which we stupidly don't have. Thanks volks brazil), so it might be different than what I'm thinking i.imgur.com/GgEMOJf.jpg

You forgot another disadvantage of the GTI compared to the TSI: Due to the newer regulation it has a particle filter (similar to DPF for Diesel cars) which makes it harder to tune legally. BTW: Did you easily get TÜV on your TSI with the Racechip? I'm thinking about getting one, too.

Your UP! is the best because is was sculpted by craftsmen (e.g. Guerilla for the exhaust and Tom for the cage). Sculpted it is, not welded together by robots that only make money for VW.

@MrCarGuy

6 жыл бұрын

RumbleBelly I read the last sentence as Yoda....

Welche Bremsscheibe beim VW up vorne ist gut für die Nordschleife ? EBC? BREMBO? Welche fährst du? Liebe Grüße aus der Eifel 🥳

CARMRADES Sticker in the right lower corner, i like this :-)

I have a up TSI in Brazil, and here it comes stock with 105whp using etanol and 101whp using gasoline, measured in the dynamometer(our cars are flexfuel). Some piggybacks, already can turn TC off, without turning ABS off. One of them is the TORK ONE, and their remap, reach 156hp, with intake and exhaust. For me the only thing i want of the GTI is the 6-speed gearbox.

@LopesVEVO

6 жыл бұрын

Pedro Cesar Matos aeeeee ó o BR aqui huehuehuehue

@driveslow48

6 жыл бұрын

ta curtindo o carro? so no remap pega quanto? to considerando pegar um

@LopesVEVO

6 жыл бұрын

Nelito G. Vieira Junior de velocidade vc fala?? Up remap pega 230 de gps, se for uma puta descida e muito longa deve chegar nos 240. O meu tá original, consigo relativamente fácil 201~202 de gps e numa puuuuuta de uma descida muiiiiito longa consegui pegar 206(de gps, pq de painel tava marcando quase 215). Mas o remap o carro chega nisso muito rápido, em reta normal pega 220 fácil, outro nível..

@driveslow48

6 жыл бұрын

E o carro fica estavel? Tenho um gol g6 e a uns ~150 ja nao passa confiança

@LopesVEVO

6 жыл бұрын

Nelito G. Vieira Junior ahhh, 200 por hora no aro 14 com duraplus, qual a chance?? Acho de boa andar até uns 160 dependendo da estrada, acima disso começa a encher o saco..

Hi there what clutch kit have you installed which can handle abuse

Brazilian up tsi with turbo upgrade do 9.0s in 1/8milha (201m)

Which Recaro seats have you fitted? I agree with you. The standard seats are shit on longer journeys.

@mgcharoudin

6 жыл бұрын

Pole Position

I have a vw up beats edition, 60 bhp. Any easy upgrades I can do?

the 5th gear is already a huge leap from 4th, on the highway i'm getting 500-600k's on a single tank the economy is amazing. I just don't see the point in a 6th gear when i'm already getting 2.5-3k rpm on 5th

Hi Misha, reallynice and informative video. I really like your UP. I have a quick suggestion on the Traction Control issue. JP is building an 1.8t up and in one of the videos he disabled the TC by pulling a fuse. I check a fuse diagram and there are 4 or 5 fuses for the ABS. If you try removing them one by one, you could find a scenario where you have ABS but no TC. Other people unplug an ABS wheel sensor and so disable ABS. The 3rd option is to wire in a button. Some Skoda's use the same ABS module and have a TC off button wired in, where the UP doesn't. I hear if you wire in the button you get the TC-off funktion even without coding. I hope I have been helpful :) Ceers!

@mgcharoudin

6 жыл бұрын

Yavor Tsanev where to would you wire the button?

@yavortsanev3403

6 жыл бұрын

Hi Misha, the button should wire in to the ABS control module. Here is the thread i read it in. Reply 2 or 3. forums.ross-tech.com/showthread.php?3911-ABS-Module-on-VW-UP-help-disabling-Traction-Control You can look into details on the skoda rapid and compare with what you have in the up. Normally such circuits work by adding +12v or a ground to the pin to activate or deactivate a certain feature. I hope i helped :)

@mgcharoudin

6 жыл бұрын

Yavor Tsanev THANKS!!!

good video

Watching this makes me want to swap the TSI engine into my Skoda Citigo... shouldn't be that hard and would make a nice project!

i want this as my first car. its a dream car for me! its soo cool!!

Can you have power, transmission, interior, and wheels/tires upgrade for 5000 Euro or less?

@mgcharoudin

6 жыл бұрын

RDS Alphard yes

why gt86 still not running? like subaru engine i took out of my car in about 1.5hr. engine swap can be done in less than a day.

@mgcharoudin

6 жыл бұрын

Jānis Polis priorities. It is not one.

Buy a Clio like mine (1.6l 107PS), give it the full "Apex Treatment" and you have a better car for 11k. If maintained well, I'm sure the engine will do around 200.000km, even if bought with 100kkm and run on the track from then :D

Cant you turn off the traction control like may in the grand tour by pulling the fuse out?

@mgcharoudin

6 жыл бұрын

It is linked to the ABS, so no,

@jkoorts

6 жыл бұрын

So switch off ABS. Again fine for the track

Most interesting thing for me now when up isnt that much on the channel is that when I go back and watch videos of UP UPsetting supercars and think about that, it is like "holy sh*t", but back in the days it was normal thing to see everyday on vlogs.

@mgcharoudin

6 жыл бұрын

5rdjo Graphics yeah, waiting for the track to re-open again

maybe you can program the TC out, from the ecu?

Misha can you please tell me how should I mod my car ,it is a Audi a4. 1.9 tdi B5 I would like to know what's my best option to get more horsepower and it does not harm the engine because I heard that ecu mod is harmful for old cars .

@mgcharoudin

6 жыл бұрын

Capatina Alexandru there are multiple levels of ECU upgradez, ask your local professional.

Well standard 60HP Up the Sub7Up has UPped the game a lot 😎 😉

The funny thing is that the E-UP have the option for shut down the TC :D ...

Wow never been this early. Good 17mins ahead.

Can you fit the new Vw up high up steering wheel with commands on the older model Vw Up High Up?

Misha, you do know that you can turn off the TC by removing the red wire in the right corner in the engine compartment under the plastic cover, with a 10mm socket? I myself own a TSI with 129 HP :-) have a nice day

@samkwant4050

6 жыл бұрын

Casper Grønbo if this is true I think you've just made someone very happy (or angry for not telling it earlier)

@casper2117

6 жыл бұрын

Sam Kwant it absolutely true, i have done it my self :-) it turns TC off and the “start stop” feature

@samkwant4050

6 жыл бұрын

Casper Grønbo didn't it disable the abs?

@casper2117

6 жыл бұрын

Sam Kwant Sorry yes ABS is off the wheel will lock up if you floor the brake

@samkwant4050

6 жыл бұрын

Casper Grønbo oh well abs is for pussies anyway, I have no abs and never had the wheels lock up, but that's probably because my 80's brakes are shit

We don't even get the TSI in my country, guess I'll have to stick to my 1ltr ecoBoost Fiesta. Whats happening with the e90 in the corner, when we getting an update on that?

If you forget for a moment that you have previously driven a stock UP and have the Sub 7 UP , would you you buy an UP GTI ?

@mgcharoudin

6 жыл бұрын

If money would be no object, then yes.

@neovenom9833

6 жыл бұрын

And if you could get more car for about the same money? like I don't know... a Fiesta ST?

Yes, the seats are the UP's worst feature for spirited cornering. Fly round a corner on the grip threshold and you end up almost sitting on the passenger seat...

How can you have 3 views and 271 likes? BTW, a very useful video. Thanks.

okay misha i see what u are saying , where i live there are laws regarding how much u can tune your engine(max20percent extra)so the gti model can be tuned harder(more max power) then the lower powered models , but that's here in rule denmark :( .when i grow up i'm going to the ring 4 a drive !!!

Well said Misha! Lots of knowledge in that brain of yours...

You seam UPset. I’m not understanding the wheel issue you’re referring too. 17 inch wheels should have the same final diameter due to a smaller side wall which should not effect acceleration but should give better cornering. Smaller diameter wheels work good for comfort as the larger side wall acts as part of the suspension, like in F1 cars. I think 17 inch wheels in the case of the GTI are simply for looks.

@mgcharoudin

6 жыл бұрын

Doc Da Boss more metal of the rim = heavier. Look up the comparison tests online.

@Sophie-and-Ken

6 жыл бұрын

Misha Charoudin OK, I did not know this. I switched to 17s on my car from stock 18 inch for ride comfort. I know 19 are impractical in Canada due to bad roads. The additional weight counteracted the benefit of a wider tire and stiffer side wall. The article did say there was a sweat spot for every car so going to small doesn’t work either. I like what you did, smaller diameter and wider tire. The GTI rims look great but you are right, you don’t gain anything. Thanks, you learn something new everyday.

@StephenButlerOne

6 жыл бұрын

Doc Da Boss yes, I'm about to order an Octavia vRS wagon, and i love the option black diamond iirc wheels, but sticking with stock as it's stiff enough without pitting 19s on it. Tbh i prefer how the Leon FR wagon drives, but prefer the looks of the vRS.

Completely understandable. A modified and built TSI or even up cup (lol) would still be a better route to take. Why can't they put a different and bigger, better engine, i am sure they have the resources.

I'd have the new swift sport over the up gti if I had to choose (more power + jdm points + lightweight)

Here in Greece it would cost you a little more than 15k do you think though it's worth it?(interested)

Why don't you take off the fuse ??? No abs no esp ... i die like a man !