Sounds like to me, when our hiking days are over, we could possibly persue long-distance swimming, with our newly acquired wider feet.

@JupiterHikes

5 жыл бұрын

This should be top comment. Maybe I should take up triathlons

@anonymouscommenter2278

3 жыл бұрын

My local shoe store just told me that Altra is bringing out a wide version of the Lone Peak in the spring of 2021.

beginning of video...."well i know my feet haven't changed over the years, so it's obviously the shoes"....later in the video "year after year of hiking your feet will begin to widen and adapt"

@JupiterHikes

5 жыл бұрын

my feet are no longer changing* where as within my first 3 years of hiking I went up like 3 sizes from the skateboard shoes I wore as a younger non walking all the time fellow

@FastEddieDee

4 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. After 1000's of miles your feet remodel and widen. Its probably not the shoe.

@crawfordcockers

4 жыл бұрын

@@FastEddieDee I think JupiterHikes is saying that his feet did change in the beginning but after a while they've settled after all of his hiking

@chefegzyle

4 жыл бұрын

Feet: Am I a joke to you?

@Kcignatius

3 жыл бұрын

Also, the old Altras are still comfortable to him.

If you want to compare the sizing of the shoe internally the best way I've found is to compare their insoles. Just pop it out, put them back to back and you can see the fit. You can also place your bare foot on the insole to see exactly where any width issues are.

I had a very similar experience with the Lone Peak 3.5. However, for me, the Superior 4 work very well.

Hi Jupiter, It’s funny, I’ve had the same experience with Altras. I miss my Lone Peak 1.0’s! I too tried the Superior’s and then went back to Lone Peaks for my AZT thru-hike. When I was just about to give up I tried the Altra Timp’s. They are awesome in my opinion. Just the right amount of cushion for thru-hiking and they feel like the early version of Altras with a generous toe box. Now I train in my Luna Mono’s and thru-hike in Timps. Maybe give them a try.

I surprisingly enjoyed the Superior 4’s. Did a whole tough mudder in them and they did really well. Still running in the same pair and all is well. Only flaw in my opinion is the ridiculously long laces.

My first pair were the red ones you showed. 2.5's? That version was slightly loose fitting but, then the Lone Peak 3.0 came out and it fit perfect. Another shoe that's really good is the Xero TerraFlex. They have a really nice fit system. I also change all my trail shoes to speed lacing. Its easier to get that all around snug fit. Injinji merino wool toe socks too.

I've been through 12 pairs of Altras, 10 of them the Lone Peaks. You're absolutely right, they changed a lot (women's versions even worse, very narrow, so I use men's), 4.0s are actually wider, the fabric is thinner too, like in the Superiors. I'd like to try something else too if I could find it...

@jakubdobrosielski5709

3 ай бұрын

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@AgnieszkaZebraDziadek

3 ай бұрын

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I'm so glad I found this channel.

Im training for my first long distance hike and I hike essentially barefoot in minimalist sandals. I couldn’t even do 10 mile hikes at first because my feet hurt so bad but after a few months a 10 mile hike feels normal again. That minimalist footwear is definitely strengthening my footwork and muscles. When i put on my altras its like walking on a cloud now lol

I wear New Balance Trail 690v2. I've gone through 4 pairs. They're an almost perfect balance between minimal and padded. Never had blister problems, always comfortable walking and running long distances, but I still get a natural gait. They're typically sold on the big main websites around $90, but I've always managed to find them for $60.

Try taking the insoles out. That made my Superior 3.5's fit perfectly.

I really agree with the use of minimal shoes when not thru hiking. I wear Vivo barefoot shoes and they are amazing. They have trail shoes and after about 3 years of wearing only these everyday and on my hikes my feet are significantly stronger. Gearing up for a CDT thru in 2021 and went for a training hike yesterday. My pack on the cdt will have a base weight of 10 lbs but I packed a bag full of weights and went for a 4 mile hike. The pack was about 60 pounds and the day after the only parts of my body that were sore were my legs and shoulders, feet perfectly fine. I'm excited to see how tough my feet are when I throw on a mid sized pair of hiking shoes.

I got the xero terraflex and I'm very happy with them so far, I've not been able to take it on a long hike yet but wearing it around at home and for work they are extremely comfortable. but I'm not sure they're what you're looking for being pretty minimalist. but if you left the insole in they might work pretty well for you, it's something to look at anyway.

Altra 3.0 is the golden shoe in my opinion. I just went through my last pair... I recently purchased the superior 4.0 and ran into the same problem! I have returned that shoe and purchased the Lone Peak 4.0. What I have done is take out the insole on the Lone Peak 4.0 and that has been my solution for the time being. Flying out to Colorado on June 22nd and starting my thru of the CT on June 24th. and using my Lone Peak 4.0's with no insoles!

@daniellee7108

2 жыл бұрын

Agree. The 3 was the perfect trail shoe.

Nice thorough discussion. Thanks Jupiter. I have found the Ultra Lone peak 3.5 and Superior 3.0 shoes I have worn for the last 18 months have shortened in length and curved up somehow giving me big toe pain - very strange. I got a size that was half to one full size larger than my normal size and when new I had half an inch of extra toe length - but not anymore. My Toe is now hard up against the end. Its not a swelling foot phenomenon either as when I put them on when not on a hike - in daily life - my toe is right at end already . Very disappointing. I found the superior 3.0 was not quite cushioned enough for my liking and my feet were extra sore at the end of a days hiking and I did have to be more aware of my fee placement in the superior 3.0 towards the end of the day. So yeah it forced me to be more aware of what my feet were doing and how I was choosing me steps - so yeah maybe thats a good thing like you say and forcing you to take more careful shorter less careless steps. I have another pair of older Barefoot style hiking shoes that I walked in recently - some Merrell barefoot style Gortex somethings (I can not remember of find the model name) with a vibram sole that is super grippy - and they were great.

Thanks for the video Jupiter. I found the same problem with Altra in change of width. It would be nice to have a link for the NB Minimus too. Happy trails!

I used to love The North Face Unlta Trail shoe. Then there was the 2.0, which was also good. It was my perfect trail runnig shoe.

Hey Jupiter. Have you ever tried the Altra Timp? I've used the Lone Peak 2.5, 3.0, and I did not like the 3.5, so went back to the 3.0 on my PCT Thru Hike, then made the switch to the Timp 1.0 when it came out. And now I'm currently rocking the Timp 1.5. Love it! It is reminiscent of the original Lone Peaks with the wide toe box. I don't see myself going back to the Lone Peaks.

@paviii92

4 жыл бұрын

the 1.5 is amazing!!!!

@Mandala1985

4 жыл бұрын

Timp ?? 1.5 Gotta try now , I think Darwin On The Trail has a recent review of it as well !! Going to that YT vid now ...

@barondavis5692

4 жыл бұрын

4mm more cushion.

@braflynn

3 жыл бұрын

I also switched to Timps from Lone Peaks. My Lone Peaks were amazzzing but the newer version didn't feel good to me so I switched to the Timp 1.5 and now 2.0 from Lone Peak 3.0. I am curious about the new brand Topo, too.

@Just_Mark

3 жыл бұрын

Same boat. I’ve kept a warn-out pair of Loe Peak 3.0s around as my ‘whatever’ shoes just because they’re so darn comfortable. But I switched to Timp 1.5s last year to hike. They’re not perfect tho. While the fit is nearly as good as the old Lone Peaks and the sole has lasted much longer (even the toe cap), Timps can get slippery on wet rock-type stuff. They don’t have the same grip. So there is a trade-off. Still holding out hope of stumbling upon another set of Lone Peak 3.0s at a mom&pop shop one day tho.

So here we are 2022.. What shoe have u been wearing??? I'm about to switch my Salomon to Innov8 Trailtalon 290 V2. Curious what you found..

That's a really relatable problem, from a runner's point of view. I run marathons myself, and have experienced the same thing.. you had a go-to shoe for years, but suddenly, the next version is different. I was like: 'keep your dirty restyling hands off of my shoe!' But unfortunately, shoes are like fashion, now, for some reason, and companies try to reinvent something every year. Which wouldn't be a problem if they actually improved shoes (as far as that is possible anyway), but... the way I heard it is that because they now need annual updates (because that is what the competititon does, adding an extra layer here or new stability thingy there), there is no longer enough time to wait for all the reviews coming in to hear what works and what doesn't. So they re-invent the shoe without knowing exactly what to keep and what to get rid of, making it a hit or miss kind of thing.... That would be okay if they renamed the shoe and kept making the old one as well, but that's now how it works, apparently. Annoying as hell. Anyway - regarding switching shoe types for races - for me that depends on the race. I run in three different types of shoes. The minimal kind are lighter and faster, so for short races, like a 5K, the average kind I can use for anything up to a half marathon, but I use my heavy shoes with lots of cushioning for my marathons. The impact of walking is different of course, but I can imagine the cushioning feels good. Just follow your own advice and don't start your long hikes without letting your feet get used to the different shoe. There is another bonus of training on different types of shoes as well: since they are all slightly different, there is a difference in which muscles are trained most, so your muscles develop more evenly, and that helps when you get tired: tired muscles get support from muscles you normally don't use that much, so if you manage to train those by using different shoes (go for different brands as well!), it could help. Or so I am told, anyway. Hope that info is useful for someone.

Great overview of a most critical piece of hiking gear/Do you usually use inserts...?

I have 6 pairs of Altra, mostly Lone Peaks. All that are 3.0 and older are wonderful. Every pair of 3.5 I ordered from Amazon I had to return. The shoes really did change. When all these wear out I hope Altra has all this worked out.

@JupiterHikes

5 жыл бұрын

Some people are saying here the 4.0 are more like the 3.0 while the 3.5 was the worst. All these changes and reverts making my head spin. I'll have to try on the 4.0 locally if I can to see what I think

I indeed had to get used to my Altra Timps, they force a different gait plus more use of calf muscles and more stretch of Achilles tendons. I feel I am using more energy for a given distance than with 'normal' shoes. But they are very wide in the toe box indeed. As my 'normal' shoes which are fairly wide I use shoes from the Meindl comfort fit series. Not zero drop, made of leather, heavier, generally a longer-lasting sole. Anyone familiar with wide Keen shoes, Hoka and Merrell also seem to have wide models?

I'm new to the Alrra brand, but had done my research and had heard many people say the lone peak 3.5 were not as wide. When I went to try on shoes, I tried on a number of brands, and both the lone peak 4.0 and the Timp 1.5. Since I never wore the lone peaks, I don't know how they fit before the newest models, but I can say the Timp 1.5s are amazing! Unless they decide to change the Timps, I'll be loyal to that model and brand. But, companies do weird things, so we will see.

I’m enjoying the Timp 1.0 right now.

Have you considered Topos? I've tried them once, on the TRT, and were OK. The traction is not the best and the insole is pretty flimsy but they are super wide at the toe box. They're also cheaper than altra and do offer a slight drop (3 mm).

@JupiterHikes

5 жыл бұрын

A lot of folks recommending topo! I'm checking them out now, the runventure 2 looks really nice at first glance. I don't normally like buying different insoles (just use what my shoes come with) but maybe that would be the jam for these if it's flimsy Thank you for the suggestion and info

@CoteziHikes

5 жыл бұрын

I actually hiked w the MT2’s but just tried the runventure at rei today and felt a lot better insole-wise. 👍

@woozei

5 жыл бұрын

I am currently wearing ultraventures. I had to size up to get the wideness I wanted. Why won't manufacturers make wide sizes?

@matthewmanzi9504

4 жыл бұрын

All my topo shows broke down in half the time of a normal shoe. Loved them but no durability

I had the same experience with the lone peak. I now use the Altra Timp 1.5 which have the perfect amount of stack or rubber between your feet and the ground. I have a wide foot and the Superior 4 is great. You must have a very wide foot maybe EEE. The Lone Peak are still too narrow compared to the Timp 1.5. Hoka now has several models in wide versions.

Wow! I have had the exact same issue, and gave up on the exact same model. I think it’s the change in material. I just discovered the new Altra TMP, they feel very similar to the old Altra Lone Peak, and I’m back on Altra now, with the TMP 1.5. Give it a go!

Big fan of the Altra superior 3.0. Been using with heel that pain heel seats for 2-3 years. The heel cups take about 2 weeks of everyday walking to get use to them but then they feel good and add just s bit of heel cushion to the minimalist shoe. 🤘

I started using elastic shoelace. Costed 0,5 dollar and helped me with my altra olimpus 3,5 mid foot nail like pain trouble. It did get them to be less stable on side slopes one other hand.

I would be interested to see/hear your update on this now, 3 years later. I have some LPs that I've loved since I got them about 4 yrs ago. I was using them around town and for occasional trail walks & hikes, until January this year when I took up a more purposeful walking habit. As my feet developed and the shoes started to feel small, I started using them without the insoles. Do you know of Vivobarefoot? I wanted something for hikes & work in muddy conditions or crossing snow and got a pair of the Forest tread ones that I'm very happy with so far.

Altra Superior are my absolute favorite. I have a very narrow foot, center back thru heal, but these are the only hikers that will make up comfortably and still have a wide toe box for the toes to spread out. Lone Peak and Merrill Trail Glove my next favorites.

Do you have measurements of your feet, length and max width across toes? I am looking for some wide shoes and I hear Timp is currently the widest model from Altra, have you tried them?

Quite a nice video on shoes for the trail. I usually wear boots and have had great success with them . After watching this I may give trail running shoes a try. Thx for the info. Happy hiking

Have you looked at the Topo Athletic Terraventure 2? Wide like the old Lone-Peaks with the same cushioning on a vibram sole. They feel a little more "structured" than a Lone-Peak so not quite as minimal but still very light.

Have you found a replacement for the Lone Peaks yet?

I had some Altra Superior 3.5s. I really liked the fit initially, but they were more minimal than I wanted and they fell apart after about 150 miles of trail running. I won't be getting Altras again because I think they failed basic durability tests. I bought some Topo Ultraventures and I love them so far. Try Topos out!

I love the superior 4s. I have a pair of those for trail and a pair of topos for street. The Altras are definitely wider than the topos.

Very interesting Jupiter....I've been using Atlra Lone Peaks for about 3 years starting with the 3's then the 4's and wasn't happy with how my heal would get sore after high mileage so I went to the Timp 1.5's, which seem to be slightly thicker, and have really enjoyed them over the past few months. Would also like to try the Olympus 3's eventually....wondering why you haven't tried them? Curious to see what Altra does next as I am still in search of the perfect shoe.

@JupiterHikes

5 жыл бұрын

I haven't gone for the olympus because the stack height is just too large. It certainly works for some people(thats why it's hard to talk about shoes!! Very personal) but I find that too much cushion or too large of a stack height and the shoe becomes unstable, that rolling your ankle becomes a very real issue since you're so high up off the ground. So just looking for something with a middle of the road stack, like the lone peaks, but wider

Hey Jupiter, You should try the Brooks Caldera 3s if you haven’t already. They aren’t the $50 option you had mentioned, but they have a similar feel to Altras, medium weight, 4mm heal to toe drop and very durable. Iv had all 3 versions, #1 I think was the best, wasn’t a fan of the 2s and after resisting the #3s and trying other shoes, Iv come back to it and still love the cushion and fit.

I'm curious, did you ever solve this problem? I'm in the same boat-I've been using Altra Timp 1.5s and they're the most comfortable pair of shoes I've ever worn. It's time to replace them, and after doing some reading, I'm pretty sure the Timp 2.0s aren't going to work for me. I'm leaning toward trying out a pair of Topo Athletic Ultraventures, which have a similar amount of cushion to the Timp and also a wide toe box (though not quite as wide as Altra's. It sounds like the Terraventure 2 might be a good choice for you, since their rock plate and cushioning is comparable to the Lone Peak. They do have a bit of a drop, but reviewers seem to say they can barely tell the difference from Altra's zero drop.

Have you tried any of the five toe shoes? I think they have a trail shoe? what are your thoughts?

Altra superior is my favorite BIKEpacking shoe. I had the 3.5s. Lone peak is my favorite for backpacking. My LP4's work well for my feet, which are wider than some but not crazy wide.

Have you tried the new XeroShoes Xcusions? I just ordered a pair and think they will be perfect because I love the XeroShoes TerraFlex. As minimalist as they go. Nice and flat. Perfect for forefoot style.

Do you think your feet may have "changed" after breaking your foot? I broke a few toes flyfishing, and I had to move to different shoes for hiking a year later.

I've had my Superior 4 for about a month now, have hiked around 60 miles on them and find the pad of my foot is super sore ☹️, don't have blisters anymore (that other brands give) BUT now have a new issue. Blah still looking for the perfect shoe.

I just thru hiked the long trail in Lone Peak 4s. They blew out on the sides 100 miles in and cut my foot where the shoe has torn at about 75 miles to go. It was my 2nd pair of Lone Peak 4s. Hadn’t had issues before. Not sure what the deal is. Maybe the 300 miles of mid through VT was too much for them

Have you tried Topo? The Topo's have very similar wide foot design, but they are not zero drop..

Great review. My orthotics fit the 3.5 perfectly. They did not fit in the 4.0 version. Additionally, I believe they got cheap with the material so they could make the shoe lighter and it bit them in the ass. I’m sad. The 3.5 was nirvana

I felt the difference as well in the LP4 and Superior 3.5. Crazy tight in the mid foot and more sloppy in the box. Switched to Hoka Challenger ATR. So far the Hokas fit great and I love the cushion. Great video

Maybe try Topo Athletics. About the same price as Altra, but different brand might be just right. They do have a drop, but might be worth a look.

Lone Peak 2.5 and 3.0, I wore size 10.5. Lone Peak 3.5, I wore size 11. Now with the Lone Peak 4.0, I'm back to size 10.5 and they have more room than the size 11 3.5s. They work well for me, but I have a fairly narrow and low arched foot so width is rarely an issue unless it's too wide. I've also worn a couple pairs of the Superior 2.0s. They're not as wide as the Lone Peaks.

@OldPackMule

5 жыл бұрын

Russell in the Bush agreed. 4.0’s have been good for me in my standard size.

Did you purchase the New Balance shoes in a standard width D or the wide option 2E? Thanks

Try Olympus. I am still were 2.5, co the newer version may have the same issues as the lone Peak

Thanks for the run down. I just picked up the New Balance All terrain. They are a bit more shoe than I was looking for but I ended up really liking them

Great video! thanks for sharing! love your editing. I hope to raise my channel quality to this level one day. Thanks again

@JupiterHikes

5 жыл бұрын

It will happen faster than you think! I still have a long way to go in terms of quality and editing, probably mostly filming is my issue, but if you look back just 4-6 months ago how much has changed... Thanks for the kind words!

@paddle_hike

5 жыл бұрын

@@JupiterHikes awesome! Thanks . It gives me hope :)

Bruce. I used the lone pine 3.0 on the Primitivo in 2017 and loved them. In 2019 I bought 3 pairs of the lp 3.5,in several sizes,on sale as the 4.0 was coming out. I trained in my old pair and walked in France and Spain in the fall of 2019. I had no blisters and no problems in 25 days of walking. I have a wide foot but have no problems with the 3.o or the 3.5,as they fit exactly the same. Maybe your foot just got wider. I know that I wear a much longer shoe that I did years ago.

Hi friend. I will buy my first trail running .And ı know my foot type. What about new lone peak 4.5? What changed? Or do you have any suggestion to me? İmportant things for me : wide,arch support,cushion,strong heel and toe materials.

As someone with feet issues I advocate taking more than one pair. Something like the lone-peak, for more difficult terrain. A more minimum shoes for general use. And a very light minimal shoe for multiple uses. As a camp shoe. A water crossing shoe. As a dry pair when the others are wet. As an emergency pair if the others are wet and frostbite is a risk. Or in case one of the others fail, fall apart. The extra weight of the two lighter pairs is very minimal and worth it for me. Typically I start the day in the most minimal pair possible for the conditions. My feet will fatigue after a few hours at which point I swap out for a heavier pair. Again, this is what works best for my feet, and whole body for that matter. Give it a try boys and girls 😉

@JupiterHikes

5 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a plan!!! I'll give this a go on my next hike

@popopo1976

4 жыл бұрын

Good idea

The truth is this: the size is actually the same, but there is a rubbery support added on the sides, which was not there in earlier Lone Peaks. When I ordered the Lone Peak 3.5, I immediately sent it back and bought 3 pairs of earlier Lone Peaks. They are pure heaven. Best shoes ever made. Other than that, Altra is dead to me.

@chaosegg

4 жыл бұрын

If you guys are sure that that is the case (the side support thing), could you not... i dunno, cut it off or something?

Summer 2018 I bought closeout Lone Peak 3.0's - great shoe! Wide and comfortable, and helped me heal plantar problems. Late 2018 I bought a pair of 3.5's. Still great but noticeably tighter. This spring I bought the 4.0's in prep for thru-hiking the CT. Good shoe for everyday use but too tight for a long trail - planned to use the 3.0's. Due to some ankle pain from old injuries I thought I'd try the 4.0 kids. These shoes are substantially bigger than the low cut version and fit more like the 3.5's. I've seen others on KZread complain about the width issues and we are all disappointed with Altra. I wear a large size and it is impossible to find the older versions on line. Hoping your video and others complaints make Altra wake the fuck up and address these design changes. Trail folks are sharing their complaints with me weekly!

Had a pair of Lone Peak 2.5. I liked the zero drop, but I always rolled my ankles in them. They had zero grip on wet surfaces creating insecure foot placements when scrambling over rocks, crossing streams, etc. Additonally, I got blisters on my toes every time my feet got wet. The shoes didn't even drain water that well compared to other trail running shoes. I don't use gaiters, and the shoes took in so much dirt and debris. My go to shoes are currently La Sportiva's Bushido 2's and I've had none of these issues. My lone peaks are now used for yard work.

New to your channel and love it, definitely a new subscriber!! Now I'm just getting into distance hiking and was wondering were a beginner should start for shoes. I am currently using an old pair of boots from my service days. They work but anymore than 7 miles in a day and my feet start to get really sore. Any help here would be much appreciated!!

@JupiterHikes

5 жыл бұрын

Everyone is super different, in time you will want trail running shoes instead of boots since they are lighter and tax your body less but for now I would focus on going to hiking stores, running stores, anything with a ton of shoes and try them all on. A shoe should instantly feel comfortable in store. If it isn't immediately comfortable it's not the one. Some shoes may break in over time but I would never buy something uncomfortable on the idea that it will get more comfortable, its just unlikely!

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the subject. Getting the correct pair of shoes is such a matter of personal preference, and personal requirement. There are a few who hike barefoot, or with sandals, and complete the long trails. They don't have issues with their feet. On the other end of the spectrum there are hikers who hike in traditional hiking boots, and do long distances with heavy packs, have done so for years, and are happy. Like everything in backpacking it's important to hike your own hike. One comment noted that large companies change factories often. They do it to save a dollar a pair, or even twenty five cents a pair. You would think that they want to keep the quality up, but they want to balance quality with profit, with profit being the most important factor. Higher end makers of shoes don't change factories, they own their factories. Those manufacturers will often use a third party sole manufacturer's sole with their shoe such as Vibram, or Michelin soles. These soles will cost the shoe manufacturer more to buy than the total cost of producing a pair or shoes by the bigger companies who are buying cheaper sole components, and, I would suspect that Altra is making their own sole components to supply to the factory they use at the time to construct the shoe. Altra would be doing this to increase profit, not quality, and certainly not durability. I think most folks have the notion that a shoe company has a factory where shoes are made by magic. In addition to the soles, all components of the shoe are sourced. The shoe factory doesn't make laces, eyelets, leather, nylon, mesh, thread, or insoles. The shoe factory puts the components together. Better shoes are built with better components. The marketing budget for the mass marketing large shoe companies is tremendous, much larger than R&D. Which is why, when new ownership comes, and they have to cut costs, they find a factory that will make the shoes cheaper. The new factory has different lasts which they try to adapt to the shoe, and in the case you mentioned, the new version of the shoe fits differently. In this case tighter. It is much easier to tell their representatives that nothing has changed with the way the shoes fit, and the representative is paid to represent, not technically a lie because the rep doesn't know any better, but not true. And, they take our money. I have hiked in Zamberlin, and La Sportiva for years. There are many other good manufacturers such as Saucony, Salomon, and Brooks which I have used. Five years ago Brooks Cascadia were the overwhelming favorite, but they changed last for the following year, the their popularity dwindled. I don't like all offerings from any company. Sorry for the long comment. Thanks for sharing your video. I view you as one of the backpacking community's elite hikers, and I appreciate, and look forward to your point of view on all things hiking.

@JupiterHikes

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the well thought out and informative comment! I appreciate the information. I tried to explain my issue through the experience I've had and the shoes I've worn over a long time. I know I can't explain it perfectly but felt I did a well enough job. Shoes are such a personal thing, and as you say as well they change over the years. Whether it's the manufacturing process, the design, the making of them more mainstream, whatever it may be. It's difficult finding that perfect shoe and come 2017 when my favorite one no longer fit me I was pretty gutted! I actually stopped the hiking I was doing at the moment with foot problems because of it. Anyhow the search continues!

@chriskennedy7321

5 жыл бұрын

@@JupiterHikes Your information was perfectly presented, well researched, and informative. In my comment I was trying to address another comment which I felt was aggressive, and completely missed your point of view. I don't like trolls, or high conflict behavior. I won't respond to their comment by replying directly in that that is what they want. Keep us updated on what you find.

@JupiterHikes

5 жыл бұрын

@@chriskennedy7321 Hahaha I think we are in the same boat. I got a few comments saying some weird things, and possibly that bled into this. So far what I've learned reading through all of the comments here I would probably like Topo shoes, or maybe just a thicker New Balance since they offer very wide options. Happy I posted this video as the comments themselves have been full of good stuff!

@chriskennedy7321

5 жыл бұрын

@@JupiterHikes I have worn New Balance, I like them, and the experience including durability has always been outstanding. With that said, please try a pair of the Topo brand.

@peterlkelley

4 жыл бұрын

I happily backpack with Lone Peak 4s and trail-run with Superior 4s, and do both with the same replacement insole (in my case, a Powerstep Pinnacle Plus Met, which has a bump that gives the bottom of my foot a nice massage while I walk, and has cured a bit of Morton's neuroma on one side). IMHO the insole makes a big difference and that can be customized

I loved my Adidas Caprock Terrex shoes... too bad they're on the 2.0 version I dont like as well. I should've bought 2 or 3 pair when I found I loved them. There are a few old stock left online, but none in my size

I've also always been in minimal shoes ( NB minimus, Vivobarefoot, vibram toe shoes etc.) and I just tried out the Temps on the OHT and other than some rubbing on my heel they were pretty solid. I've also tried, and really liked, Topo Athletic shoes.

something a little different there is a company that has made hiking boots for awhile that has entered the trailrunner market called hi-tec.i just recently saw them at a store that sells discounted name brand shoes.store was called shoe deptment encore.great prices and they have stores all over.hi-tec roundtoe and hi-tec badwater seem be the most popular hope this helps

I think that Brooks running and trail shoes do a great job of providing a comfortable fit with plenty of room for the toe box. Most of their shoes have regular and wide size as well.

Thanks for the info

I just did a section from Springer to Fontana Dam and used the Altra Timp 1.5, about 30 miles into the hike I took the insoles out and was much happier. The insoles are the problem for me as well.

I have just bought some alone peak 4.5 and found my hip problems have got better but now find carve and hamstring problems. How did you transition to zero drop shoes?

It's been a while now. What are you using now for long trails? Thanks.

Just got the Merrel Bare Flex. More cushionned than the Vapor Glove, wide toe box (wider than Altra). And cheaper. Haven't tried it on a thru-hike tho. And the grip better than Altra too (I didn't feel confortable/stable with their grip…)

I love the Lone Peaks but had to size up by a half size when going from the 3.0 to 3.5. The 3.5 is definitely sized different (smaller) than the rest. The 4.0 is back to the same sizing as the 3.0. That said 3.0 was my favorite shoe of all time. Lone Peaks still the best I’ve found for my feet. Good video. Never hurts to re-evaluate and find what works for you.

@JupiterHikes

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe I'll have to give the 4.0 a shot! Thanks for the info!

There have been variations in Altra Lone Peak sizing through different years, liking having to size up or down to get same fit in a new year

Watching this in early 2023, I see lone peaks now also come in a wide variation, have you tried these? And if so did they solve your problem?

I have been hiking in New Balance running shoes for awhile. If you find a wide hiking shoe, I would love to hear about it. I have a 3E foot that is difficult to fit.

Did you only try one model? I have a few different Altra shoes and they fit very differently.

I had the same problem. I've seen them be more narrow across all of Altra's lines. I'm primarily a road runner and fell in love with Altra's shoes on the One v2.0. the 2.5 was perfect, and the 3.0 was horrible. I can't run in escelantes or nearly any of their shoes aside from the solstice, which is narrow but doesn't hurt. I buy the one v2.5 by the dozen off of Amazon. You might be able to find old versions still available online.

Are you sure your feet haven't got stronger, more muscular and as a result ... larger/wider or something? I saw someone say they added some side support thing which might be the case... have you figured it out for sure? What about breaking in the width? Is there an amount of time that it takes to break that part in? Perhaps more now than it used to take?

Did you try the lone peak wide sizing?

Well thought out comments. I’ve been hunting for the right shoe for years. I hike a lot, and have always had problem feet. I’ve tried orthotics, no orthotics, heavy, light, minimal, blah blah blah. The last three years I’ve been trying Altras. They’re good, but certainly not perfect. I’ve had two pairs of Lone Peaks and three Timps. In there was also a pair of Oboz (total fail). I’d say for me, the Timps were better. They’re definitely wider than the Lone Peaks, and provide more cushion. Ultimately, I too am looking elsewhere. Altras don’t last, and aren’t meant to; however, I don’t fancy constant purchases at $120 a shot. Perhaps the new Adidas? I’ll be very interested in what you try,and what you settle on. One last thought: I like high gaiters. I’d love to have a zero drop shoe, that had some kind of provision for a strap underneath. Flat bottom shoes wear through gaiter straps! Shoe companies take note! Please?

Perfect shoes are a myth! Its all about compromises. Seems to me your closest bet would be wide Hokas, but I'm sticking with my Altras, both for ultra road and trail races. Awesome video btw.

@Brioso222

4 жыл бұрын

Amir Abdul Latip Hokas are the last shoe that he needs

Brother Please tell me what shoe to try. 13 eeee width I wear a 6e in new balance but they currently dont make a hike worthy shoe in that size. The altras were a joke. So narrow. All the solomons are too narrow. The merrel moab 2 fit great in 13 wide but they suck and are heavy and if they get wet they take 4 days to dry and then they fall apart.

I end up training for hikes hundreds of more miles than I hike. So I have been going to big5 and buy new balance running shoes wide width. They last much longer than my altras. Not quite as comfortable but they hold up well and don't hurt my feet.

Thanks for the shoe talk.

Have u seen the Merrell choprocks, (sp) thinking about giving them a try.

I recently bought a pair of Hoka One One for my thru-hike of the Colorado trail. My pair is definitely not a minimal shoe because I bought the Evo Mafate model, but Hoka does make what you're looking for. Go try on a pair.

Have you tried the Altra Escalante?

The LP 3.5 definitely fit tight/shorter than earlier miles. I don't care what any rep says. You are correct. I skipped that pair because of it. However, the LP 4.0 is my second favorite pair of LP's ever (following v1). The Superior is not a comparable model. It is not the same shoe. Thinner midsole, more fitted last, meant to go fast. You need to check out the new LP or the new Timp.

Yo I'm jealous u got a ton of pairs of the minimus V4. I got one pair left. I love those shoe, right amounf of cushion, no insoles, the upper doesn't blow out like altras

New Balance MT410v5, 2 sizes up with a Superfeet Green insole.

Have you tried lems or xero brand.i have both and love both

@NatureSouldierSC

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks I cant buy anymore Altras I have spinal cord injury and Indestructible or Zero I'll force my cells to wear. I'll even spend rest of my life trying to walk barefoot.

Give the Altra Timp 1.5 a try. Just hiked 500+ miles of the Florida Trail and I am loving these shoes

Good video! Wide shoes are also my problem! Will be interesting to see what you find. Thanks for the update!

@JupiterHikes

5 жыл бұрын

I'll keep you updated! I hope this long thread of comments can be a good resource into potential new shoes!!

@JupiterHikes

5 жыл бұрын

A lot of people are recommending Topo shoes, and from first glance they look really nice, specifically looking at the Runventure 2 right now.

Love my Altra Superior 3.0. Tried 3.5, 4.0 and decided that Altra's acquisition to VF resulted in material and some design modifications to rid itself of inefficiencies, aka make more money to show shareholders it was a good ROI. I see this happen a lot.

The comments led me to order the Topo Athletics Terraventure 2, they seem durable with the vibram sole and big toe box. If it weren't for this video I'd be doing a 250 mile hike in the AL 3.5 :) Thank you!

Hi Jupiter! Quick question I've been wondering for a while, how tall are you? Just be interesting to see in terms of walking stride compared to myself (since I'm 6 foot 3 :-) )

@JupiterHikes

5 жыл бұрын

I'm 6'2" I get comments here saying I look short every so often which is kinda funny, maybe my camera does that to me!

New balance provides all the lengths and widths , my trail runners are a 9.5 EE. Have they stopped this ?