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@jacobpapaly378

4 жыл бұрын

Ok

@aquamarine1213

4 жыл бұрын

OuT oF 10?!

@nexas3018

4 жыл бұрын

It’s okay if you really thought it was a 3.5/10 but it almost sounds like you snuck it in there to be slick 😂

@malaez88

4 жыл бұрын

I came down here to bombard you. You beat me to it.

@carsonclay2965

4 жыл бұрын

I think, for the most part, the stilted and unnatural dialogue was intentional. For instance, Arthur's therapist barely talks at all and doesn't respond to him, similarly with Murray. I think it reflects how Arthur views that no one listens to him and acts as if what he says doesn't matter. It could have been unintentional, but I think because it is told from Arthurs POV itt kinda works. I dunno.

We still don’t know if joker is damaged though. He should have a tattoo on his head that says “damaged” so I know he’s damaged.

@neilbreen371

4 жыл бұрын

This here, is very important. Otherwise ,the audience might not get that he's damaged

@gluteusmaximus8881

4 жыл бұрын

Suicide Squad won an Oscar! How many Oscar's has Joker won? Not a single one!!! Suicide Squad is the best movie ever made!

@ZadnoleyaEdits

4 жыл бұрын

MineTurtle Animations Is this a direct quote from Screen Rant’s Pitch Meetings?

@j.k.1239

4 жыл бұрын

@@gluteusmaximus8881 It won an oscar for Academy Award for Best Makeup and Hairstyling and that is the only Oscar it was nominated for, Lol.

@gluteusmaximus8881

4 жыл бұрын

@@j.k.1239 My comment was obviously a joke. cause Suicide Squad fucking SUUUUUCCKED!!

Media: “Joker will inspire shootings” Me after seeing the movie: “We should all be nicer to others and as a society show more concern towards those struggling”

@diegotobaski9801

4 жыл бұрын

And who can forget "make sure you dance on stairs"

@shahadatali74

4 жыл бұрын

yes

@schwarzwald6672

4 жыл бұрын

Mhm those who aren't considered normal. Homeless people and not just during thanksgiving or christmas. People talking about mental health not just when tragedies happen(notice all that talk/discussion went away).

@quietspark2368

4 жыл бұрын

The sad fact is to the media shootings equal profit.

@authorbhattacharjee4957

4 жыл бұрын

This is why I can't hate the joker If this joker fights batman then I would want batman to help him instead (not like freaking bootleg punisher from chuck snyder) Because just like Bruce he has been through a lot too I would want Bruce to help joker and so that joker can redeem himself. This is why I fucking love Batman's no killing rule everyone deserve to be loved and so that they can be better people! Well that's just my opinion though

"It is not a movie's responsibility to cater to what is safe or sanitary." Put it on a t-shirt I will wear that until the day I die.

@pkliskiki1800

4 жыл бұрын

just change movies to media/art!!

@jaydenwilson9522

4 жыл бұрын

or as Phoenix said "It's not the film makers job to teach the audience morality."

@coffeequoh5487

4 жыл бұрын

exactly

@TheDesecrator

4 жыл бұрын

I'll take ten.

@theflashgordon193

4 жыл бұрын

You are way to much melodramatic but I love that

You’ll get movies like Joker when you FIX THIS DAMN DOOR

@adriel.510

4 жыл бұрын

@@jordanvenning Ikr Tom Holland is the worst.

@MrNobleSix

4 жыл бұрын

@@jordanvenning im gonna put some dirt in your eye

@liamgannon2345

4 жыл бұрын

I Want me rent

@faizfadillah2587

4 жыл бұрын

Hahahahahaha hahahahahaha brilliant

@arvi132

4 жыл бұрын

Jordan Venning gonna cry?

This movie really does show us that we do live in a society

@iwannamcdie1524

4 жыл бұрын

@Harley Quinn where did that come from?

@spech6522

4 жыл бұрын

Is this the weekly planet reference?

@dcmarvelcomicfans9458

4 жыл бұрын

@Harley Quinn ignorant tribalist we're not talking about Marvel stop bringing it up

@aaaaanditsgone

4 жыл бұрын

@@dcmarvelcomicfans9458 but wait it is still unclear to me.... Do we, in fact, live in a society?

@dcmarvelcomicfans9458

4 жыл бұрын

@@aaaaanditsgone yes we do the problem is society is cruel selfish greedy and morally corruptible

The film is ultimately about empathy and how a society that lack empathy breeds people like Joker.

@andriusrios4846

4 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY!!! thank you for putting my thoughts into words you beautiful human person.

@diverdown1673

4 жыл бұрын

Arthur, a mentally abuse and abandoned young boy, trapped in mans body.

@kf8113

4 жыл бұрын

compassion, not empathy. paul bloom explains the difference well.

@cendolzx3861

3 жыл бұрын

And how media react is aproof

It's sad how a movie that shows how indifference for, and the mocking and demonization of the mentally ill could lead to someone performing horrendous acts of violence, triggers a controversy that makes people fearful for their lives. Shouldn't a movie that shows how the lack of understanding of people with mental conditions instead, trigger actions to prevent cases like "Joker" from happening? I just can't wrap my head around the supposed controversy. You can empathize with a murderer's tragic past without condoning their crime.

@revuesdeminuit4071

4 жыл бұрын

Chas O.T.E you’re assuming most people have empathy, which I would argue most do not. This controversy is absurd, but unsurprising, in my opinion.

@Torgo1969

4 жыл бұрын

Good comment. Hurt people hurt people, and maybe we should consider that before we act gratuitously cruel to a stranger. And this is coming from someone who was lied to for 7 years before being betrayed by a mentally ill ex-GF, so I tend to be extremely wary of those people and I wish they would identify themselves like Arthur does with his card.

@kyzersoze8408

4 жыл бұрын

John Jackson They are idiots. A white is not inferior to a non white just like how a non white is not superior or superior to white. We are human it’s time to act like it. So much for the modern western culture. For a country that claims to be very modern U.S is the most backward country in terms of morality.

@sMASHsound

4 жыл бұрын

u wanna kno whats funny? my life, but u wouldnt get it, there's no punchline

@yomilalgro

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, well said There were so many lesson's in this movie. Unity and understanding is the message I got. As well as exposing the truth about the inequalities, injustices, and downright oblivion the rich have towards the poor. Its an awakening of sorts, and I for one advocate it. It's time for an uprising for change in this quite cynical society we live in. Its NOT okay to continue the status quo!!!!!!

More movies like joker? AKA more good DC movies

@Browntable

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, fingers crossed for Birds of Prey

@rainmaker2338

4 жыл бұрын

@@Browntable Birds of Prey looks fucking awful, least we got the Batman movies, Shazam, Wonder Woman sequels, and hopefully a Joker sequel

@jacobpapaly378

4 жыл бұрын

@@rainmaker2338 Birds of Prey just feels like a sequel to the first Suicide Squad except it focuses solely on Harley Quinn

@thekidfromcanada

4 жыл бұрын

@@Browntable I don't understand why it's Birds of Prey and not Gotham City Sirens. Catwoman, Poison Ivy and Harley Quinn are already established and "villains", making it easier to make them team up, band together and stay true to character. Huntress, Black Canary and Oracle are great, but DC isn't good at introducing multiple people in a film, and Harley was never a Bird of Prey.

@vassilyvodka2638

4 жыл бұрын

@@rainmaker2338 no Joker sequel. It should stay as standalone. I hate it when films get franchised. Let it be.

The Avengers: We'll save the society. Joker: Save me from the society.

@obredaanps3

4 жыл бұрын

I'm so happy we live in a world where I got to watch both Avengers Endgame and Joker all in the same year.

@HarshKumar-jv5np

4 жыл бұрын

@@obredaanps3 yeah man

@adamwestcoast5723

4 жыл бұрын

Harsh Kumar that part💯

@NovaKnight_

4 жыл бұрын

Suicide Squad: What are we? Some kind of society?

@HarshKumar-jv5np

4 жыл бұрын

@@adamwestcoast5723 thanks man 😊

Everybody pushed away and mistreated Arthur. In many ways, society brought out the monster

@FinnedOcean9389

4 жыл бұрын

True, society creates its own monsters

@FinnedOcean9389

4 жыл бұрын

Chetan K V S true true

@Aidan_Infinity

4 жыл бұрын

Except for Gary. He was always good to him.

@Anonymous02498

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah that was the fuckn point genius

@FinnedOcean9389

4 жыл бұрын

@@Anonymous02498 o_o you gud bro?

I was so happy when the people carried joker and placed him on top of the police car. It was like a nod to Batman Arkham City 😭

@adnvdn

4 жыл бұрын

Oh fuck you made me realize it's also like Spider-Man 2

@gavinlittlejohn5976

4 жыл бұрын

Andrian Vidano “careful he’s a villain”

@negan9810

4 жыл бұрын

Daniel Hernandez dude I literally thought the same thing, I thought he died like he did in Arkham city, I almost cried

@kailashsingha4073

4 жыл бұрын

@@gavinlittlejohn5976 😂😂😂u killed me

@througheverything

4 жыл бұрын

Black ops hacks Surely you want him to die?

It’s amazing that a director can walk into a studio, tell the execs his vision, and they just let him make what he wants to make. It’s something you don’t get much anymore.

@stephen8176

4 жыл бұрын

It also didn't hurt that the vision only cost 58 million. Warner spent 300 million on Justice League and look how crappy that movie was.

@Throwaway-kg7ft

4 жыл бұрын

I read somewhere Todd Phillips tried to convince the execs for years before they finally caved in. They just couldnt sell Joker toys if the movie was too dark.

@shikenkanade

4 жыл бұрын

i read that philips had to convince wb for a year to make this movie. he deserves all these success he's getting tbqh

@voldemortthenoselessfreak2126

4 жыл бұрын

It's because DC and WB didn't put too much pressure on him to direct and make the movie more understanding unlike the previous people who directed Suicide Squad. they finished writing the script and dialogue in just 7 days. no wonder the directing and script is shit. the lack of dept and complexity in the story and some of the characters is just shame. but now seems like DC is back on their track again.

Disney: We have the best movies Warner Brothers: Send in the clown

@LadyOfTheEdits

4 жыл бұрын

Lol XD

@milowmilo

4 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, I'd say this is a one hit wonder. There is one movie noticeably better than most marvel movies, but only slightly better than the best of the MCU.

@mullaoslo

4 жыл бұрын

@@milowmilo get the fuck out of here... I'd say the only mcu movie that comes close to joker would be avengers (2012) but the everything after phase one is Mcdonalds bland fast food movies (yes even winter soldier) this is a proper meal

@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881

4 жыл бұрын

"Don't bother they're here"

@bored9365

4 жыл бұрын

milowmilo ok, marvel fan.

I dont think that ''I felt like my life is a tragedy but actually is a comedy'' is a bad line. It's mostly the type of line I would expect to be badly delivered in a teen movie but it's not bad on its own considering what the joker stands for.

@StoneBrosFilms

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. Given the context of the line, I think it's both chilling, and more so, quite heartbreaking. It's sad to see a man become so broken that he can no longer hold on to reality. This is clearly the best film of the year.

@Torgo1969

4 жыл бұрын

@@StoneBrosFilms Arthur completely breaks when he is exposed to reality, meaning his history of abuse and brain trauma.

@fatima_hussein

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly, it could've been a bad line in so many other contexts, but here, in its own terms, is a good line.

@Jose-se9pu

4 жыл бұрын

It is a bit cringy (plus he says "a fucking comedy", the line is full edgelord) but Phoenix delivery actually makes it work.

@Jebu911

4 жыл бұрын

I also love how he got his new nickname Joker from murray insulting him on his show and he comes there and tells the dude to introduce him with his own insult name to screw with him then shoots the dude and lets out his first genuine laugh. 5/5 scene

Joker's the film of 2019

@sayedelsherif6354

4 жыл бұрын

@A H i like how open you're and really i don't have a problem with endgame ,im just love a slow burn movie and deep dive into a character type add cinematography ,directing ,soundtrack and acting of mr.joaquin phoenix , i know it's all a perspective and i respect that but to me joker's the movie of 2019 ^^

@sayedelsherif6354

4 жыл бұрын

@lilmil no,im a joker ^_^

@ADITHYADAYAL

4 жыл бұрын

@lilmil joker is my fav movie and Endgame is like my top 500

@mateszucs8975

4 жыл бұрын

Lighthouse lol

@martyvenkman860

4 жыл бұрын

@lilmil for me Joker is my fav and i don't even consider Endgame to be even 1/10 because in my opnion i thought it was the worst movie to ever exist.

Me too man. Joker was phenomenal and my movie of the year. The way the break his character is phenomenal and the storytelling, acting, soundtrack, cinematography, and of course the acting is amazing top notch stuff. It gets a bit predictable near the end but overall it’s a true step up for comic book movies

@andrewjennings7306

4 жыл бұрын

Predictable isn't always bad.

@jameshanley8465

4 жыл бұрын

I didn't feel it was super predictable

@ollytherev2957

4 жыл бұрын

Andrew Jennings I agree for the most part. Maybe if they had a few more surprises it would be 10/10 for me but for now it’s a 9/10

@DravicPL

4 жыл бұрын

@@ollytherev2957 The surprises are there, you just haven't seen the movie enough times to appreciate those surprises. This movie IS as smart as it thinks it is. But people watch it in a shallow way, and watch it only once, and then go out of the theater thinking they've seen everything there was to see. Which is impossible on a single viewing, not with a movie like this one.

@anthonylewis7168

4 жыл бұрын

Ali Baba agree u need like 2-3 viewings to analyze & contemplate quite well from the beautiful cinematography to its message & plot. Just brilliant!!👏

My favorite scene is the bathroom dance scene. Idk y but the score the dance and everything that happened just makes that scene my favorite. I also love the jokers dance right before the curtain opens

@DanielHernandez-pq5cs

4 жыл бұрын

I love his dance on the stairs 😁

@nothajzl

4 жыл бұрын

agree. Same for me. For some reason that bathroom dance stuck with me.

@harryfullen5117

4 жыл бұрын

Whats interesting is that him dancing was completely improvised

@ethanhansen1479

4 жыл бұрын

Harry Fullen ikr I watch Todd philips talk about how Phoenix just started dancing and they kept it.

@joshuaellery6167

4 жыл бұрын

Also that scene wasn't scripted. It was suppose to have him dump the gun and stare into the mirror to calm him down. But they didn't like that so phoenix and todd went into the bathroom and started dancing and thought " this is it".

*If any other character gets the Joker treatment* it shouldn’t be another Batman Villain - have it be Lex Luther or an obscure character to delve into..

@KeyIssues

4 жыл бұрын

Constantine would be my pick

@jono_owa

4 жыл бұрын

But I really want a Riddler movie tho.

@SharpDesign

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, let's get a new Lex Luthor.

@Kinsey_

4 жыл бұрын

DC Black Presents: Luthor

@Chas-OTE

4 жыл бұрын

Luthor would be great. If Joker is about the demonization, indifference and lack of understanding people have about mental illness, Luthor would be about xenophobia, and the extreme distrust some people have of "aliens."

God the Joker movie was too good for society. I loved it.. I'd give it a 15/5

@FinnedOcean9389

4 жыл бұрын

@@rockdesu lol

@monetizedyay6827

4 жыл бұрын

Get a load of this society

@Johnnysmithy24

3 жыл бұрын

Too good for society, yet half the world loves it and it made over a billion dollars, won a ton of awards, and it has a million videos on KZread calling it a masterpiece. I swear you people talk like this is some obscure arthouse film, stop thinking you’re edgy, this is mainstream af

@FinnedOcean9389

3 жыл бұрын

@@Johnnysmithy24 lol

@Johnnysmithy24

3 жыл бұрын

@@FinnedOcean9389 lol…

7/10? Nah man.. this masterpiece deserves at least a 9/10.. honestly the cinematography, score, acting is top notch. The story relies too much in other films like Taxi driver and King of comedy. And the dialogue is pretty good. So I’d say it’s my movie of the year and best comic book film I’ve seen since the Dark Knight. 9.5/10 for me

@Beraksekebon21

4 жыл бұрын

7 is disgrace towards movie with cinematography ,acting and scoring this good,minimum score would be 8/10

@dantdt4693

4 жыл бұрын

9.5 is too high in my opinion I just think that Phoenix carries the film a lot which means the film as a whole is like an 8/10 but 10/10 performance from Joaquin

@Johnnysmithy24

3 жыл бұрын

To me it’s a 7 or 7.5 or 8 at most. Of course if I was comparing it to other comic book movies then it’s definitely a 9 or 10, but I put this movie at the standards of real cinema. That’s good enough I think

“Oh I almost forgot to punch out.” Best line in the entire movie. Followed by the punches lol

@trevorrogers95

4 жыл бұрын

Lauti S I laughed out loud in the theater at that point.

It is a masterpiece. A case study even. Just for the fact that it LOOKS and feels so deep. It stands out as a great piece of cinema itself rather than aligned to great piece of comicbook cinema.

They did such a good troll job tho like Spoilers Arthur is Thomas Wayne's son Me: oh whut Arthur ISN'T hahaha his mom's just delusional you idiots Me: oh

@DravicPL

4 жыл бұрын

Spoilers Me: Joker is so creepy, the girl will be scared for her life when she finds out he's stalking her. Girl: You're so funny, Arthur! Me: Oh. So I guess she's going to die a terrible death and that will be a factor in pushing Arthur over the edge of sanity when he loses her to someone's violence. Girl: Never even met Arthur and her relationship with Arthur only existed in his head. Also, Arthur probably killed her (but not necessarily, it's unclear). Me: OH.

@afifmajid8754

4 жыл бұрын

But the letter proves he is actually his son

@24stills

4 жыл бұрын

@Jonnathan Crane Have you actually watched the film properly? They've shown Penny's side of the story too, it's left to the viewers to interpret if he's Thomas's son or not. Go watch Todd Philips' TIFF QnA. He talks about the ambiguity of the film.

@harsh-oc3vk

4 жыл бұрын

@@24stills Yes yes the photograph at the end also had me confusing a bit. I hope the director dosen't confirm anything and let everything be mysterious. The way it should be

@tweeks9896

4 жыл бұрын

Ali Baba I doubt Arthur killed Sophie, he probably spared her because she had a daughter

When he got into that fridge I turned to my friend and said why he do that? And she said he's just giving a chilling performance hahahah also great movie. We need more artsy movies like this from DC

@ROGUESPIRIT_

4 жыл бұрын

dont talk in the cinema you fucking rat

@WickedKnightAlbel

4 жыл бұрын

He was trying to kill himself

@Johnnysmithy24

3 жыл бұрын

This isn’t an artsy movie dude lol. It’s a character driven thriller

"Oh, wait. I forgot to punch out!" *smashes timeclock* "HAHAHA!" That's so how I'm going to quit one day. That's as far as the radicalization gets to me.

Tbh it’s a really great film but for me it’s too early to say it’s my favorite of the year I have to wait to see the lighthouse and parasite etc but rn it’s a runner up also “ my mom died ..... I’m celebrating “

@Browntable

4 жыл бұрын

It's great imo but there's definitely way better films that are going to come out, and have already come out this year. In my opinion of course.

@jono_owa

4 жыл бұрын

Joker is my fav of the year but I'm biased since he's my favorite villain in any form of media.

@tentsio6903

4 жыл бұрын

Parasite is amazing. Hard to compare movies so different, I am starting to hate rankings and lists.

@Browntable

4 жыл бұрын

@@tentsio6903 I can't wait to see Parasite, and yeah rankings and lists are kinda frustrating

@anandjitrajbhar3910

4 жыл бұрын

I have seen parasite and in my opinion joker is slightly better and that's because after a very long time a movie has made me to think about it long after seeing it.

Regarding the "controversy": Honestly the idea that people are afraid this film might "incite violence" in the real world says far more about how broken our real world society is than it does about the film itself.

@haruhisuzumiya2400

4 жыл бұрын

I think controversy was a distraction made to avoid the moment people start to cautiously think and use their head I'm from LATAM And Gotham it's pretty much, New York with another name, seeing from afar I think some groups are afraid of common people figuring it out and going to protest to the streets

@user-gm4kv2my4u

4 жыл бұрын

I think it shows a media, that at this point is salivating for something to happen. They want trageties to happen. They want people scared. When people are scared, they tend to stay inside, glued to their TV or phones for the latest news. Its interesting they bring up night crawler. That movie was a comdenatiin of the very thing the media is trying to do right now.

@Franco98k

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@jaradrichardsC137

4 жыл бұрын

People are just paranoid and delusional

@ebecerra85

4 жыл бұрын

Yes people rather live in a bubble wrapped world is delusional. Hold a mirror and people freak out.

Joker is a really refreshing comic book movie, in this case, it's actually has a genre, a drama / psychological thriller rather than the usual MCU drill. It's ok to like / hate the clown. Don't be a clown.

@simonegreco1958

4 жыл бұрын

Are you implying MCU movies don't have a genre?

@adnvdn

4 жыл бұрын

simonegreco most of them feels like a studio cookie cuter movie. Ant-Mant & The Wasp, Captain Marvel were the worst offender.

@jaxon3333

4 жыл бұрын

Andrian Vidano they still have a genre, it’s called action comedies.

@antoniobrooks474

4 жыл бұрын

Guardians - space epics Captain America trilogy - political drama Iron Man trilogy - social commentary, action comedy Black Panther - racial commentary, political drama Doctor Strange - supernatural thriller Captain Marvel - buddy cop Ant-Man series - heist comedies Thor - adventure comedies But yeah, they don’t have genres lol

@dcmarvelcomicfans9458

4 жыл бұрын

@@antoniobrooks474 thank you

"3.5 out of 10...maybe a 4/5" clear what you meant but made me laugh

@Browntable

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I messed up lol

Joker isn’t the man Gotham needs, but the one it deserves.

@kailashsingha4073

4 жыл бұрын

Wtf😂😂

@duckhorse5914

4 жыл бұрын

I- I t-thought it was Batman..

@PedroPinto-tf9bg

4 жыл бұрын

*Batman leaves the chat

@authorbhattacharjee4957

4 жыл бұрын

Tbh joker is the one who needs batman in his life so that batman can help him and show kindness to him and show compassion to him and make him a better person again so that he can redeem him! If you have read the killing joke then you know what I'm talking about Unlike ( bootleg punisher from chuck snyder)

@Johnnysmithy24

3 жыл бұрын

@@authorbhattacharjee4957 Yeah man I agree. The ending of The Killing Joke is so beautiful

It’s not about the money It’s about sending a message

*"I feel the story should've been more morally clear...Should've showed you the right way to do things, & how protagonist is oblivious to it."* I dont agree with this statement for 2 reasons: 1) Any work of art that feels the need to preach, isn't good art. It's just someone trying to manipulate their ideology on to you. 2) Actually....yeah, My first reason is the only reason. That's the most important reason.

@daemonspade8316

4 жыл бұрын

3)Your first reason is accurate.

@kherossilverlight8400

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah. I don't think there'd have been a way to show another way while keeping its 1st person narrative organic.

@syonmazer4133

4 жыл бұрын

Mega0003000 I support this reasoning. It’s the one thing he said that I didn’t quite agree with. Joker is great as is. No tweaking needed

@noumenondrift2522

4 жыл бұрын

@Sateki Taulanga most people really can't think for themselves tho lol

@antoniomikic8832

4 жыл бұрын

@@noumenondrift2522 that's the sad part, reminds me of the movie inception and how lots of people said it sucked because it was "tOo hArD tO uNdErStaNd" soo many stupid people it actually hurts my brain damnit

No. I want more Catwoman movies... sike who am I kidding.

@nootnewt9323

4 жыл бұрын

Catwoman was amazing😤

Me before Joker: Disney should buy Warner Brothers. Me after Joker: You know what? No.

@dannystokes8425

4 жыл бұрын

Disney sucks

@kaisteven5907

4 жыл бұрын

Danny Stokes very generic movies with live action remakes( cheap) and so many formulaes and forced agendas from Disney nowadays. WB doing their own beautiful thing now

@dannystokes8425

4 жыл бұрын

@@kaisteven5907 exactly

@AnswerisB

4 жыл бұрын

Why would you ever want that in the first place???

@TiMonsor

4 жыл бұрын

they really shouldnt/. maybe вс will make mostly crap. but this crap will be at least different to marvel conveer belt. and some times it will be georgeous

something something SOCIETY something something RISE UP

@nightshade3100

4 жыл бұрын

the fire rises

@Torgo1969

4 жыл бұрын

"Rise from your grave, little sister"

I can literally smell this movie. Every single scene. The subway, the talk show, Arthur's apartment, The toilet where he met Thomas, even Arthur himself. I've never had that feeling of being that immersed in a movie before. And the strings in the score is really, really unsettling. It's as if something is lurking in Arthur when there's a close-up shot of his face.

I wonder what movie this dude would count as 10/10 if he gives this masterpiece just 7/10

@jasonhebedead1710

4 жыл бұрын

From what I've seen of his video history Jebu911 his 10/10 would undoubtedly be The Dark Knight. Which is why I was initially surprised by his lukewarm feelings towards this. But admittedly they're very different. This film isn't as up front about what message your supposed to take away from it and how the rules of it's reality work like The Dark Knight was. I guess it's different tastes in storytelling approaches. Love Dark Knight, but the ambiguity of this film is something I really appreciate about it.

@wing00hero

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

Joker makes avengers look like a mediocre children’s film

@hanthitsaing8091

4 жыл бұрын

Theres really no basis of comparison cause they both are different in their own ways.

@urmomisurdad5422

4 жыл бұрын

The avengers movies are regardless.

@master-ri5kq

4 жыл бұрын

Theblackknight 70 how if the movies aren’t even in the same category

@bruhd4560

4 жыл бұрын

That’s what it is

@reaganation6000

4 жыл бұрын

MCU is overrated, even Martin Scorsese agrees with this phrase

"This has to be the best thing we've ever done." Indeed it is

Firstly I want to say I really enjoyed your review. I thought you offered something to this many others haven't and for that you should be proud. Considering this is one of the most discussed films this week. That said I do have nitpicks... I know as well as you do how important a good sponsorship is to have to keep yourself afloat. And by no means do I think you did this without thinking... But the trade off for a 2 minute long opening involving ad placement results in a ton of watchtime being lost which negatively impacts your channels future performance. I had to learn that the hard way. I had a small issue with the review itself but it's the same one I have with a lot of reviews I watch. And that issue is... Explain what your issues are specifically and how you arrived at those conclusions before moving on. From a pacing point of view, it serves to make the review feel less of a constant flow from idea to idea and more like a series of thoughts far more disconnected than I'm sure they are. For instance... @4:40 you say "The film to me does feel like it's smarter than it actually is... The story's incredibly simple and some elements are rather predictable. But it's how a movie executes simple ideas that makes a movie good or bad. And for the most part the movie feels very fresh and it executes its ideas rather well. Still thought, it is a bit melodramatic." I think personally this needs specifics if you are going to point out flaws effectively. I'm by no means saying that these criticisms aren't founded. But it makes for a much easier to understand viewing experience if you guide the viewer through your thought process. The reveiw felt like more of a praising of the film than a critique of it and that's perfectly fine and probably was what you were going for. But personally I think if you're going to disect the themes and messages of a film, you need to point to specifc moments or at the very least not brush past it too quickly. Again your observations about the film when expanded upon like the camera work (with examples) and the film being shot from Joker's perspective really works in this video. And I think the criticisms could too if you maybe point to specific examples of where the film falls short for you. Love your stuff!

@Browntable

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Great observations I’ll keep em in mind for future videos. I would’ve gone deeper and explained but the main thing you forgot is that I need the movie with me to fully explain what I thought worked and didn’t. I also wanted to keep this spoiler free. 👍

@elnahobino

4 жыл бұрын

Top 10 anime crossovers

@thelrproject257

4 жыл бұрын

I pray for your safety watching those last dragon ball movies mark

honestly for me the movie is a 10/10

Joker isn't a movie. Joker is a *_film._*

Knew this video was about to be an absolute banger at 0:15

@Browntable

4 жыл бұрын

Ahaha thank you

"Joker feels like a movie" Thank you Brownie, thank you for your insightful commentary.

*sees the news and world in chaos over a movie* Joker: I'm an agent of _chaos-suh_ .

I don't think the movie is pretentious at all.

@sarahs8371

4 жыл бұрын

Infinite Warlock yeah I agree, a lot of other KZreadrs I think are the same in that aspect, in which they say a lot of stuff but don’t give a reason why.

The Joker really centers around one quote that comes from the man himself in the comics. “All it takes is one bad day to turn someone’s life around”

Appreciate your intelligent perspective, but it is clearly a masterpiece. And it's a much better film for not having any more social commentary than it does. Better for art to raise the right questions than to prescribe answers.

For some reason Jake Gyllenhaal and Joaquin Phoenix are like the only good actors keeping Hollywood from being horrid.

I feel like most people love or hate Joker because of the mind set they had before even seeing the movie (yeah, that includes me). I think that if we wait a few years most of us will realize that it's not that big of a deal in any way. There's an opinion that I saw on Twitter and a Twitch livestream saying "If the movie wasn't called Joker, do you think people would still love it as they do now?" And it's amazing because it pretty obvious that we wouldn't, we latched onto this movie before even seeing it because it's a DC movie and that made most of the general comic book movie fanbase's opinions biased toward liking it. Everything this movie's done has been done before and, let's face it, has been done better. Sure, it's never been done in a comic book movie, but I'm not asking for prestige here, I'm asking for originality, and Joker's many things, but original isn't one of those things. Its only merits are given to the fact that it's a comic book movie and not just a regular one, and the funniest thing is that if it doesn't wanna be treated as a comic book movie, then all its merits get thrown away ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ If the Dark Knight movies and Spider-Man movies get so much crap nowadays just because there's a new Batman and Spider-Man, despite those movies being (to a point) pretty solid flicks, imagine how this movie will get treated in a decade, given how criticizable and flimsy it is.

But how are we going to know that the Joker is damaged, if he doesn't have a tattoo saying that he is?

I think in that last scene where joker tells about a Joke that shows Bruce and his dead parents is where the movie tells us that there is another path that one can take because Bruce inspite of the tragedy becomes a savior of the society unlike Joker.

The soundtrack gave me goosebumps everytime it started to play.

*correction New York always looks like shit, ive been here for 25 years

@Browntable

4 жыл бұрын

3 so you know more than me haha

@Eli-dx5zr

4 жыл бұрын

I’m going to NYC over the Christmas on holiday, I’m so excited. It looks good in all the pictures how is it shitty?

I agree with almost everything you said. DC needs to keep making movies like Joker... I'm really happy to see that Warner realized that the way to make money is to be original and make the opposite of what they were trying to do. Great video as always, love you my king!

the movie is a character study, so any character study is similar. Blade runner, blade runner 2049, ad astra, taxi driver, apocalypse now etc. u got a long list

Marvel did it's called Logan That's a dramatic deep character study and it's also R and it has GREAT performances from Jackamn and Stewart

@deepsharma5703

4 жыл бұрын

Yes... it was really cool.. I even saw Logan twice... but my vote goes to Joker...

@ianob14

4 жыл бұрын

except it’s not from Marvel Studios/MCU. I think after the deal of Disney/Fox, we won’t see another “Logan-type” movie.

@cmccorquodale2003

4 жыл бұрын

@@ianob14 sadly

@shawklan27

4 жыл бұрын

@@ianob14 fuck disney

@noumenondrift2522

4 жыл бұрын

Doesn't stand close to this movie lol

I believe this film was a revolution for comic books. Many people were criticizing the joker for not being the opposite of Batman or not having the same origin hinted as in various comics. Comics took inspiration from all mediums including its own so when they knock this film for doing Its own thing it doesn’t make any sense to me. We are at a stage where we can take inspiration from the comics and making “normal” films out of them. It’s a movie about a comic book character but it’s not a comic book movie.

Arthur's unhindered downfall leads to him essentially dooming another kid to his life. It paints a duality between types of coping: sociopathy and radical stoicism A false dichotomy? Yeah, sure - most people just keep trucking along. The thing is that Bruce has always had Alfred to keep him from making boldly inhumane decisions. As a person who was paralyzed with anxiety for years, having a support group is the only thing that kept me alive. I agree that the movie's thematics require a bit of extrapolation from the viewer, but solid nonetheless.

We need more Movies like Joker. Todd Phillips and Joaquin Phoenix and you're team Thank you for this masterpiece. amazing video mate first time watching you're video also sub.

I think we all want more films like the joker

Favorite scene for me is the one where his two old coworkers from Ha-Ha’s came to visit him while he’s celebrating his mother’s death. Great scene in my opinion really

I actually love the way the movie ties batman and joker together, cuz both batman and joker are born on the same day and it shows how the characters react to trauma. batman takes his traumatic experiences and turns it into something good while the joker does the opposite. so I think now a good batman story that follows up (in an ideal world) these events can answer your criticism of showing the audience the better way to do things.

@bxnzo

4 жыл бұрын

perfectly stated

Actually, it is a masterpiece.

This has to be the most professional and honest movie review I've watched in long time.

@Browntable

4 жыл бұрын

I appreciate it ❤️

Saw it opening day. This was one of the best movies I've ever seen in the cinema!

I remember watching this in theater and feeling like I'd been gutted at the end of it. I struggle myself and have some difficulties and DAMN did this hit close to home. What an amazing movie, what a tragedy. What a triumph of cinema.

I honestly think this is my personal favorite movie of all time

@wing00hero

3 жыл бұрын

I agree

I’d call it a masterpiece. But thats an understatement to mr.

The next dc black film I want is either an intense political drama lex film about him becoming president and lois lane being the antagonist. Also i want a the town style heist film with heatwave and captain cold. Oh and a body horror crime movie about clayface

@batmanvsuperman_

4 жыл бұрын

Just picture this. ENIGMA.

@jakeconstantine693

4 жыл бұрын

@@batmanvsuperman_ I've already set aside money for the tickets!

“So is Joker goo-YES.” Resoundingly so.

I was hoping you'd be reviewing this! I'm so happy! 🥺

This movie is honestly perfect to me. I wouldn’t change anything (maybe just a little bit more “joker” at the end but otherwise I love it)

Despite my narrative problems with this film, I love the new direction that this could bring to comic book movies. It really takes a chance on the story that it wants to tell, and that sense of liberation is exciting. The big takeaway from Joker is that more comic book movies shouldn’t be afraid to tell different kinds of stories. More standalone pictures would also be great. I love me some cinematic universe, but it’s also nice to just see a standalone story that is solely concerned with being the best that it can be. The direction, cinematography, score and performances (Phoenix is worth the price of admission alone) are all great. I do have significant problems with the narrative though, however, the general mood and atmosphere combined with the aforementioned great qualities are enough to transcend its flaws.

This film is a miracle of modern theater. Rarely nowadays do you have films that CAN be adapted for live stage. Excellent movie.

if this video gets demonetized: *what do you get when you cross a mentally abused loner with a society that abandons him and treats him like trash*

@batmanvsuperman_

4 жыл бұрын

*mentally ill

👏Since when were filmmakers, artists, writers and creators in general, responsible to teach their audience about morality?👏 Look, the movie is rated for adults, they put warnings, it's a compeltely different case if parents are chill with their kids watching adult rated movies. it's OK if you didn't like it, but I don't sincerely think it's gonna inspire riots or shit. Don't get me wrong; this movie deserves all the awards in the world, and if Phoenix doesn't get an Oscar I'll be rioting.

See, I don't think the movie is about mental illness, it's just a part of it. It's not focused on social issues because it's goal is to leave everything as terrifyingly open ended as all of those issues actually ARE. Because that's how Joker works, that's the terror of Joker. He just nudges you into realizing just how horrifying reality is. He uses the part of you already tempted to delve into the chaos that you know is just on the edge of civilization. He uses the idea of narrative to attack narrative. It is a true anti-narrative film. Every single time you think the movie and Arthur Dent's story is "about" something, that is robbed from you. There is no core story, the world is just mad and this person has seen the depths of that and it's made him become an agent of that chaos.

Dude the right way to do things is Batman’s way. The way he handles the world’s tragic negative push is the opposite of joker. It’s why he is a Batman villain.

Taxi Driver + Gotham(tv show) = Joker

@tumppi723

4 жыл бұрын

Shit, I don’t want to see anything with even a bit of Gotham.

@berstuk

4 жыл бұрын

@@tumppi723 you're about the only one mate.

@BronsonFan111

4 жыл бұрын

And King of Comedy

@tumppi723

4 жыл бұрын

ᚨᚾᛏᛖ ᛃᚢᚱᛁᛚᛃ Gotham is really a shitty show, only good aspect of it is The Penguin.

This film reminded me of nightcrawler as well. The thing with the social rich and poor thing and people complain about it but its there to make people believe its what the film is about only for u to feel like the joker doesnt care about it.

I hope that one day Marvel will make a movie like this about Thanos. Show us his backstory and how he came to the point where he believed that the only way to save the universe is to kill half of it.

It's hard for me to put into words how good I found Joker (2019) made by the director Todd Phillips. This movie is great and so far one of my favorite movies from this year and in my opinion the best movie of 2019. The cinematography of the film was gorgeous, the soundtrack was mostly perfect, the acting was good too but probably the main reason why I love this movie so much is Joaquin Phoenix. What a fantastic actor! I love the Dark Knight trilogy from Christopher Nolan and Heath Ledger's Joker. Ledger gave us a realistic Joker for the first time and Phoenix continued his legacy with respect. Phoenix gave us the same in his own way with a deeper background. In addition with an excellent Joker performance e.g. the Dancing and his Joker laugh. Just fantastic! The Joker's Mystery is still contained in this movie and although it's an Origin Story, I still have the feeling that the Joker has remained a complete Mystery and will probably always remain. The movie gets a 9/10 from me. The best DC movie since The Dark Knight (2008)

In a nutshell: its the comparison between terms Graphic Novel Vs. Comic Book When you say Comic book you capsule it into a certain style that already has it's own boundaries and style but when you say graphic novel it can be any graphic novel regardless of it's content Joker is a Graphic Novel Film

@ghost_pl9259

4 жыл бұрын

I wouldnt say that's how it works. Comic Book Movie means that it is in some way based off the comics, and Graphic Novel means it is based off a Graphic Novel. There arent really any boundaries.

Joker was honestly amazing. After Marvel's reign with family-friendly movies for the past decade, a mature movie felt nice. 9.5/10 from me.

There was actually plans to make another movie like Joker, a villain origin. It was a movie about Bane's origin, comic book origin. I would want to see either Bane or Killer Croc origin movies but as soon as they pitched the idea of the Bane movie, it was immediately denied due to the backlash Joker showed.

I’m addition to the more obvious parts of his performance, his physicality is great. The way he runs, scrambles, and rolls around after he’s thrown is awesome, and especially when he yanks the file with manic strength. He can overpower characters much stronger than him through pure crazy. I also totally agree with the Nightcrawler comparison. We do need more movies that can take chances like this, because they’re so much more “real.” This is the edge DC could use to compete with Marvel’s crazy epic blockbusters. They built a universe around Tony Stark and his legacy and toys. DC could build a universe from the ground up with its villains and darkness. It feels so much truer in essence to their history.

Chads and chairs, picture this: a house of cards style lex Luthor movie. Let's. Go.

@tamarack1pines

4 жыл бұрын

Lone Wanderer Ironic....

@brohiddlesby7010

4 жыл бұрын

@@tamarack1pines ironic?

@tamarack1pines

4 жыл бұрын

Lone Wanderer Kevin Spacey has been Lex Luthor and Frank Underwood....that’s why it was ironic on what you said in your original comment. 🙃

@brohiddlesby7010

4 жыл бұрын

@@tamarack1pines oh yeahhhhhhh, I havent seen that superman movie since I was a kid.

@daemonspade8316

4 жыл бұрын

@@tamarack1pines 😂Oh shit

I love how the Dark Knight is pretty much the antithesis to this film. The fourth act of the Dark Knight proves exactly why the Joker was wrong. And I think that's really cool. Btw could you make the Patron scrolling end screen background a little lighter? It kinda hurts my eyes a bit. GREAT VIDEO BY AVERAGE HEIGHT KING!

@jono_owa

4 жыл бұрын

Dark Knight Rises kinda proved that Joker was right tho.

@shanghandi-notrelatedtomah8534

4 жыл бұрын

@@jono_owa How exactly? (I haven't seen that movie, or Joker for that matter)

@jono_owa

4 жыл бұрын

@@shanghandi-notrelatedtomah8534 Bane reveals the truth about Dent and Gotham goes mad because of a bomb in the city as well. Their spirits were broken, just Joker wasn't the one to do it.

The same people who are screeching about Joker are the same people who think video games cause violence.

You are very wrong about this movie. This is a masterpiece!

Honestly I disagree, this film is a masterpiece, Best this year by FAR

Great video. I agree with most of it except that it's a simple story. I don't think most people understood the multiple ways the movie can be interpreted. We don't know which scenes are real and which are just delusions. And that ending left it very ambiguous and open to interpretation.

@Rode123

4 жыл бұрын

I agree 100%. Hell, there is a great Joker quote where he states “Sometimes I remember it one way. Sometimes I remember another. If I were to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice”. This movie portrays that element perfectly.

@athenajaxon2397

4 жыл бұрын

I disagree they let you know 100% which scenes are real and which aren't. I wish it was more ambiguous

@tad_tao

4 жыл бұрын

@@athenajaxon2397 a lot of people theorize on the movie. Reddit has posts that stack up with hundreds of comments discussing it back and forth without having a clear defining answer. The fact that you are arrogant enough to state that you know clear well (100%) which are real and which aren't doesn't give you much credibility on the matter. But that's just my perspective. You are free to have and stand by yours hehe

@athenajaxon2397

4 жыл бұрын

@@tad_tao its not arrogance the film clearly makes it known whats real and what isnt

The joker is amazing bruh it better get movie of the year give Joaquin already and “I thought my life was a tragedy now I realize my life is a comedy” is a amazing line

Ayyy I’ve been waitin for ur video. Great job!

Joker really makes you FEEL like you're living in a society

Last time I was this early Tony Stark was still in a cave

>Joker: * provides a commentary on how we, as a society, can inadvertently create psychological and emotional pain in others * >Media: * literally attempts to ostracize people who see and enjoy Joker as a film thus proving the point Joker was making about society *

I really don’t think Joker was intended as a deep or philosophical movie, nor was Joker intended as a sympathetic/relatable/likable character. The movie simply asks a question about what made Joker, Joker, and answered it in a few layers. Joker is very obviously flawed but the fact that it was made and inspired people to talk about it, is wonderful.