It’s funny, I’m in the process of moving to Obsidian after using Notion for about two years. Notion is great and all, but once you upload anything to it, it’s not more yours. Obsidian + Syncthing will give me back that control Data Sovereignty above stupid comfort! ✊

@Nulley0

20 күн бұрын

Yup, Obsidian with Synthing here, using it for a long time plugins take some time to load in Obsidian, otherwise a solid option.

@vargonian

20 күн бұрын

I get frustrated every time I try to name an Obsidian note with characters like slashes in the name.

@dastiffmeister1

20 күн бұрын

Any of you ever had issues syncing between different device types? I moved away from Obsidian & Syncthing to Joplin because it keeped on having more and more issues syncing certain files. Maybe due to the filename not being allowed on certain platforms. Really enjoying using a combination of code-server (for code & scripts) and joplin for general notes and tables (luv me some tables that aren't in markdown). All my data is mine and can be accessed and seamlessly synced across all devices.

@Nulley0

20 күн бұрын

@@dastiffmeister1 I have three devices synced with folder vault, I do sometimes use them simultaneously, no issues for me. I do keep daily backups, just in case.

@BastiDevil80

20 күн бұрын

I use the same combination of Obsidian + Syncthing and it works like a charm on all devices I use (Windows, Linux and Android)

I use both of them together. Obsidian is perfect for my own private notes and my own personal projects, planning, and Zettlkasten connected permanent notes. Notion is perfect for project management, transient notes, its databases, things to “explore” as opposed to concrete stuff like book notes for example.

Obsidian + obsidian-livesync (self hosted sync server run in docker) is the way to go 😊

ai, online, own format, no plugins I'm out

I always want to use Notion but it is so slow feeling…

I've switched to AnyType and I'm pretty happy with it for how I use a second brain.

@xKipura

15 күн бұрын

My brain literally explodes because i dont know what to use. Obsidian, Appflowy, Anytype or Notion. I watched Obsidian linking your thinking and it was really complicated. Appflowy seems Like being in a pretty early stage (someone told me that), so i guess not that many Features as Notion. And Notion has no local files and people say its slow, which would bother me... Now you said Anytype, may ask what you cant do that Notion has and what it can do that Notion doesnt have?

@tyler785

14 күн бұрын

@@xKipura I haven't used Notion in awhile so I'm probably not the best source of info. Honestly Notion probably has more features and I'm a victim of "the new shiny". The main reason that Anytype hooked me was the ability for local syncing. Not needing an external service to make it work. The idea that only I controlled my data was cool. Unlimited notes, because as long as you have HD space, you can store it. Their FAQ covers all this pretty well. Oh, and it's open source!

@jaf8728

11 күн бұрын

@@xKipura it has local mode with local sync, can link local files and has a slightly different approach than notion. but talking about cons, it lacks many features such as formulas, recurring objects, nice calendar view and grid view hierarchies

I'm looking at "Anytype" that has the local first approach as a Notion replacement. But it lacks a good approach to self-hosting the sync server. Currently you have to build out everything on your own. They do have plans to make self-hosting the sync server much easier soon.

@EastexCruiser

20 күн бұрын

As far as I know, the syncing is built into the program. I have four devices connected and never had to set up a sync server. You have the option of backing up to the cloud with Anytype's server,or you can keep the data all to yourself.

@GhostOpsAirsoft

19 күн бұрын

@@EastexCruiser I might try something like "Syncthing" to sync the folder across devices. I just want to avoid using anyone else's cloud, if I can.

@jaf8728

11 күн бұрын

@@GhostOpsAirsoft there's a local sync functionality, i sync it for example with my phone and it works perfectly fine

Notion takes ages to start, feels heavy and clumpy.

@hemantaphurailatpam3956

16 күн бұрын

That's why I use notion only in the browser.

@jaf8728

11 күн бұрын

if notion takes ages, then obsidian takes centuries just to achieve +- similar experience

One good point of obsidian is you have the files local, so you can share the files you want with your editor (not with obsidian but other methods) and not the whole vault with your private notes

Detailed view would be useful , I’ve just done a video on Vikunja and now I’m thinking that I use that and obsidian could I not combine the two. Yeah it’s not self hosted notion but that has some benefits as well

How do you get all your data from Obsidian into Notion? Worse still, how do you get data out of Notion?

I bet you change back in less than 12 months. :D

Any experience with backups? For example, if you lose access to your account tomorrow, will you have your files available in a reasonable format to continue where you left off?

@itsamemarkus

18 күн бұрын

it's pretty decent, you can get a markdown export where also the media is linked correctly. But obvisouly all the functionality that makes notion so good is lost at that moment

@usmcboyd

18 күн бұрын

If you are using Obsidian, use the Obsidian Git plugin. By default saves files every 3 minutes.

Hi thanks. Yes thanks, I'm like you I look and run obsidian and have many times glanced at notion. please make a video where you show how you do it in Notion.

Brother i'd love to know your suggestion about building a small data center for a cloud computing service company running with Proxmox as a core system. Is it a good idea to run with proxmox as the core system? Thank you!

I installed Obsidian 15 minutes ago just to try and now im confused 😂

@nosurname9652

20 күн бұрын

It's much easier to look for a quick tour into is main possibilities while trying to understand it. It's really powerful tool and asks a lot of time, but result can be quite impressive. Public plugins can take it to even next level as well.

@cossack4930

20 күн бұрын

you'll still say that in a year

@stefaniejudex6303

10 күн бұрын

😂 me too, I love notion but I needed some offline app

Interested in deeper Notion discovery !

Hi Christian, just found your channel and it's awesome. 2 suggestion requests, rancher and hashicorp vault with eso🙂

Sweet! Was looking for a new not taking ap

Yes I’d love to see how it’s used in your projects.

Two things. 1) Your discord link is expired. 2) How did you go about moving your obsidian notes to Notion while maintaining properties?

I use both for technical notes and KZread Notes as well for syncing.

Nice video, I'm also in the process of evaluating Notion for my personal notes. At the moment it's a mess with notes in Apple Notes, OneNote, Notion, Obsidian and Bear. I would like to consolidate them all in Notion. What is a bit worrisome for me is the fact that the content is somewhere "in the cloud" and in a proprietary format (remember Evernote?). However, for the features it has, it might be worth the risk. I am definitely interested in a deep-dive on how exactly you're using Notion. I'm always looking for tips and tricks ;-).

@juha-mattisantala1103

Күн бұрын

For me, the lack of offline functionality was the reason I switched away from Notion. I really liked the tool (and still use it as my headless CMS for my website) but the fact that I can't access my notes nor write new ones if I don't have access to internet or the service is down was just too much.

I can understand your thinking. In my 20's, I would have been all over Obsidian....but now in my 40's - I just want it to get out of the way and let me do what I need to do, and Notion is better at that. My free time is limited and I'd rather spend it on things that interest me, instead of fighting with a writing / note taking tool, making it work the way I need it to. And....I'm rarely without internet these days so it's nice that my stuff is just there. Same thing goes with Linux distros. There's quite a few people who don't like Ubuntu because it's a bit heavier and pre-put together - to me, that's great - and cheaper than a Mac. Also loving WSL2 on Windows for desktop use where I'm not running Linux as the primary desktop.

Would like to see your way of notion usage. To be honest commercial license for obsidian is not a "must have" at all since all information is stored in place you decide 🤫 and only problem for group of ppl using it is to make proper synchronisation if they don't want to use payed version.

just use filesystem, sync thing and if you really want to visualize your notes process them files with awk and grep and visualize them with R. by the way the command find exists and also fuzzy finders

Could you make a video describing how Notion can replace the “back link” feature of Obsidian? I am gravitating to Obsidian because of the visual relationship between files. Especially with the Canvas feature. I love mindmaps. Unless Notion has a similar feature.

@xKipura

15 күн бұрын

Well at the end of the day the visualisation is only a Gimmick and has no real value you can profit from.

@TheThirdWorldCitizen

9 күн бұрын

Notion has backlinks in children pages, it can be toggled on or off. But the only way to get a relationship is if you manually create it linking the pages inside a list or similar.

I'm currently half way between the two. I started switching back to Obsidian recently because I hate scattering my data across different platforms. I want my NAS to be a single source of truth where everything is, but I just can't get Obsidian to be convenient on my Android Phone and iPad due to needing to use Icloud or Obsidian sync. Notion's app is far more convenient and I love the features, but I just wish I could store it locally and the lack of Linux app is so frustrating.

Since I invested in learning Emacs and using org-mode for all my notes, tasks, and much more, I stopped having this need for hopping between apps. 🙂 As long as you stick with one product, you can be productive in any. Worst thing for productivity is being on the constant productivity hunt. Spending more time managing tasks than doing them. 🙂

And I'm switching from Obsidian to Neovim 😂 If anyone's interested I'll soon upload a video on how to view and paste images in neovim

Thanks Christian.

but Obsidian suits your colour scheme 😂

I've tried everything, spent more time looking up apps rather than do the things I want to do. I'm the end I've settled on OneNote. I feel like I'm trying to be a person I'm not with obsidian.

So as far as I'm concerned: Obsidian should bake-in the functionality of the top 10 or so extensions to make it a safer bet that there'll always be support and a ton of effort to fix bugs there. Notion should allow users to use their own cloud. I trust my Google Drive way more than any other cloud... Bottom line: will continue on my (so far very short) journey with Obsidian and hopefully in the future will give support/assistance in boosting stability of extensions I really care about...

I really like Notion, but it felt like moving to Obsidian was a better decision for me to keep my IT-related notes in a Zettlkasten-like repo. I also like owning my notes, so sharing them with Notion didn't feel right.

I use self hosted trrillium

@apolloeosphoros4345

17 күн бұрын

same

How about 'anytype'? More Notion like, perhaps?

@jaf8728

11 күн бұрын

it still lacks a lot of crucial features, although progressing very rapidly

i was always interested how much companies pay for sponsored videos. now i know :D

Inb4 hes getting into emacs + org mode + org-roam

Soooo you telling that you never heard about Appflowy?

@xKipura

15 күн бұрын

Arent there many thinks you cant do with Appflowy that you can with Notion?

You did it the wrong way around mate 🙂 Went from proprietary to open source, from cloud to local … My data!

Great video. It may have further solidified my new journey into Obsidian but that's ok. Its great to know about the alternatives and why they may or may not fit your needs.

Thanks for the video. I really like Notion, but I stopped using it a long time ago because I'm too afraid Microsoft will buy it one day

Good video but honestly Joplin is much much better... and it's opensource !

No thanks, I don't need another lock in platform

Emacs org-roam is the place to be.

Self-host Joplin

@runningman4504

20 күн бұрын

Using Joplin privately and at work, self-hosted and local data, works great. But good to hear there are other solutions..

Oh man Notion is just not great for a solo homelab user experience. I think for sure if you have a company of younger users, sure notion makes great sense. I care not about the beauty of what I make myself, its all about getting accurate notes down and done.

I see, I click

The lack of Notion native app (there are some 3rd party tools) for Linux is the reason I don't like it! Shame on them.

Give your privacy away , i use Obsidian to keep alot of personal notes and info as well , but it all doesnt matter if i have to be online for that, i am out

Hi Cristian! I believe that making separate videos for Notion would be great, and even twice as great if you describe there if there are any tools for data migration from Obsidian to Notion.

Moin Christian, beides tolle Tools aber zwischen deiner sehr suggestiven Rhetorik in diesem Video und den diversen jump-cuts, hast du mich gänzlich verloren.

6:00 idk if I should finish the video. This is a no no for me

@christianlempa

19 күн бұрын

That’s fine, but you should still finish the video 😄☝️

logseq and git

That Kolekti ad was quite a worrying one, it seems to me like they're in a way just trying to buy reviews... 💀

logseq anyone 😢 ?

Org-mode. Simple text files. Don’t use Notion, at all Obsidian is also not open-source…

Hmm...Christian never Pins a comment... Also love your videos

Notion doesn't know what it wants to be. For a note taking app, its average.

Just came to twll you that you are absolutely wrong. But you have to make your own mistskes to learn.

Notion is slow as fuck. Cant stand it.

@jaf8728

11 күн бұрын

anytype?