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Why I left Overwatch - A top 500's perspective

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  • @Bebsiman
    @Bebsiman7 ай бұрын

    I was addicted to playing this game , but ever since the finals dropped I realized I was just wasting my time by grinding comp instead of actually having fun

  • @OMG-si3wn

    @OMG-si3wn

    7 ай бұрын

    U have friends to play with? Cuz ain't no way u find that game fun playing solo

  • @meat.

    @meat.

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Veroxus still a hundred times less mind numbing than ow

  • @okidj683

    @okidj683

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Veroxus And yet the Overwatch League died. Ironic.

  • @ludareinoso381

    @ludareinoso381

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Veroxustried both mnk is still better

  • @TheACTIONZ

    @TheACTIONZ

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@Veroxusthe aim assist is not like aimbot cod aim assist

  • @dontgotovideos5560
    @dontgotovideos55607 ай бұрын

    Kiriko headshot being equal to a dragonblade slice still makes me extremely upset. Genjj legit just isnt allowed to have ANYTHING.

  • @jamesbland5207
    @jamesbland52077 ай бұрын

    The first 30 seconds made me relieved. I thought I was the only one having trouble killing things.

  • @sparquisdesade
    @sparquisdesade7 ай бұрын

    Don't forget, Lifeweaver is one of the only non tanks heroes who is immune to headshots from an entire 90 degree angle. Like if you are behind him, you can not get a crit shot which means you have to be staring at him head on to have a chance to kill him, which is suicide against most people. EDIT: I also gotta add on the topic of streamers with their rank inflation. FLats even said in a recent video his MMR is so high that he;s hard stuck top 500 an couldn't lose enough games to fall out of it even if he tried.

  • @Ontarianmm

    @Ontarianmm

    7 ай бұрын

    "Lifeweaver is one of the only non tanks heroes who is immune to headshots from an entire 90 degree angle." *Cough* Turret form Bastion *Cough*

  • @cl9wz

    @cl9wz

    7 ай бұрын

    "one of"@@Ontarianmm

  • @Ontarianmm

    @Ontarianmm

    7 ай бұрын

    I know, but I always found that one to be the most egregious examples of it. He gets more dps, infinite ammo, damage reduction, AND he can't be headshot from the front. @@cl9wz

  • @cl9wz

    @cl9wz

    7 ай бұрын

    his hitbox is big doe and hes not too mobile@@Ontarianmm

  • @sparquisdesade

    @sparquisdesade

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Ontarianmm That's just during a cooldown though. LW always has his stupid head shield

  • @Ontarianmm
    @Ontarianmm7 ай бұрын

    I am not sure if anyone else noticed this either, but I swear the optimization of this game has gotten worse as well. In season one I could run the game with no issues, now I can't play the game at all due to the frame rate. Especially with all the visual clutter going on in the game, the game will just flat out freeze up at times. Annihilation might as well be a description of what that ult does to my computer now.

  • @okidj683

    @okidj683

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Veroxus This is either premium sarcasm or someone got let out of the mental institution. And judging from your other comments I'm going with the latter.

  • @theultimatedoom1627

    @theultimatedoom1627

    7 ай бұрын

    Real comment here I notice that on my ps5, series x, and my op pc it should not be running like playing on the switch☠️☠️☠️

  • @dcerty1852

    @dcerty1852

    7 ай бұрын

    sometimes it does happen but its generally really good compared to other games

  • @pepekovallin

    @pepekovallin

    2 ай бұрын

    Illari's ult doesn't just explode my character, it explodes my entire Pc too

  • @chlve
    @chlve7 ай бұрын

    I stopped taking the game seriously a few months ago as well. Just play w my friend now and laugh at my teammates/enemy players who are being toxic over a dead ip that's being milked

  • @heiko2255
    @heiko22557 ай бұрын

    If only there was an Off-Tank in the game, which means the Solo Tank doesnt need to be made OP as fuck to function. Which would also mean, because the Solo Tank isnt OP as fuck, the Supports wouldnt need the best surviviability and mobility tools in the game. Which in turn would also mean, that DPS (which arent 1 Shots or Burst damage Heros) could function efficiently. Im still mind-boggled on how anyone at Blizzard, or even anyone with decent understanding of the game still defends 5v5. How many broken Supports or broken Tanks with boring 1-Dimensional Gameplay loops do we have to go through, before we reconsider 6v6, tune tanks down, tune supports down stop reworking every fucking Hero and we are good. And for all you "b-b-but 2x Shield" people, 1. Orisa is reworked 2. If it would still exist, its as simple as reducing all Shield HP by 30% if your team has 2 Shield Tanks There are so many fixes for 2x Shield, Blizzard just never gave a fuck. Dont know if you truly quit, if so good for you, im still a bit delusional and only sticking around because im still hopeful they will return to 6v6 in 1 - 2 years and make the game fun again, make it feel like Overwatch again, and not this messy Deathmatch where everyone is just all over the place. Anyways, 6v6 is real Overwatch and 5v5 is just a cheap dumbed down Version of it. Ty for reading

  • @zsd6344

    @zsd6344

    7 ай бұрын

    They will NEVER fix Overwatch. Give up on the game bro its not worth ur time or energy

  • @powalowski6614

    @powalowski6614

    7 ай бұрын

    Frankly, I understand ALL the changes that were made in OW2 (most of these changes were made to scam their players for the most amount of money) but the change to 5v5 is so baffling I still don't understand why it was made, it basically forced blizzard to restructure the entire game (because removing whole one player is more than removing 3 lines of code), and ATTEMPT (incredibly fucking poorly) to rebalance the game into 5v5, but wouldn't all the workforce that was used to make this transition be used better in different ways, like skins or cough cough PvE cough cough, they had something that worked, and could just roll out with it, but decided to take the long way for some reason. I can see 2 possible answers, 1 it was done to reduce DPS queue times, because almost nobody wanted to play tank in OW1 so they simply made teams require one less tank, but it's still stupid because I assume the decision to go free to play was made around the same time as 5v5 (I have no clear source for this besides "noticing the patterns"), which would give (and gave) OW2 a huge boost in player numbers, some of which would start maining tank, thus increasing the number of tank players 2 Blizzard execs saw that some of the most popular games on the market (LOL, CS, R6) are 5v5, so they thought that surely making OW 5v5 will make it a guaranteed success. I admit this one sounds absurd, but when you take into consideration that the devs at Blizzard basically don't have a voice and all the important decisions are made by executives and a pie chart, it starts sounding less impossible I started playing overwatch like 4 months after it's release, and for all this time, it was basically my go-to online game, and even now, through this horrible monetization, I could still stick with it, but 5v5 and the balance problems that came out of it just murdered any enjoyment I had, everytime I force myself too boot up overwatch I just feel miserable, knowing that this game was once so great, and that the product i paid 40$ for was brutally ripped away from my hands

  • @heiko2255

    @heiko2255

    7 ай бұрын

    @@powalowski6614 So true, the Dev resources wasted for 5v5 (Reworking like 8 Heroes) could have been used to fix the most probelmatic Hero, which was Brig and they could have given her a rework. Or Orisa or Baptiste, reworking any of these 3 Heroes so that 2x Shield would be less prevalent would have helped the competitive scene drastically. Another thing youre correct about are the Qtimes, people want to act like 5v5 fixed Qtimes, but they disregard that OW2 got a lot of stuff that OW1 just didnt have for like 4 years It got: - New Content every Month - New Balances Patches every month - Collaborations - New Events (altough they might be not that great) - And most importantly, it became F2P Also, the devs bascially told every player that the game is dead until OW2 releases, so obviously many people left after Blizzcon 2019 aswell. Its insane to me everyone always acts like 5v5 is needed for fast Qs, like OW1 in 2022 wouldnt have had amazing Qs suddenly just because we swap to 5v5, you need a living breathing game to keep players interested, which OW1 hasnt been since like 2019 My best guess is, they noticed PvE would be a flop because they dont have the necessary resources and Developers for it, they shut the doors on PvE and announce 5v5 (coincidentally thats around the time Jeff Kaplan left the OW Team and we know he was pretty passionate about the game and he probably didnt like the change of plans) and then because the main promise of OW2, the PvE, is not there anymore, they make the Game 5v5 to justify the 2 Best case scenario imo, Microsoft gives them Dev Resources, they create a PvE experience and announce it Blizzcon 2024 or 2025, also since the name "Overwatch 2" is generally connected to a big failure, id reboot it as just "Overwatch" again and go back to 6v6 with the necessary balance adjustments Id also like to see Account Levels come back, because after completing the BP you basically have nothing to do, or the old ranked icons which looked 100x better. Is any of this realistic? Probably not, but one can only hope, i just want to love the game again because OW1 was the best gaming experience i ever had and OW2 is not even in my top 20 This comment got way to long, ty for anyone who read it though

  • @heiko2255

    @heiko2255

    7 ай бұрын

    @@zsd6344 I will stick around because of the many good memories OW1 brought me, but the game itself is a joke now Everyone just lost their passion and the game is just so dull, but if 6v6 ever comes back im grinding the hell out of OW again Never knew id miss it that much, was truly a special game tbh

  • @veretxnerd983

    @veretxnerd983

    7 ай бұрын

    ​​​@@heiko2255 *never accept the world as it appears to be. always dare to see it for what it could be.* Jeff Kapplan

  • @marveler8994
    @marveler89947 ай бұрын

    Despite the big ego rant in the middle, you make a really good point about how not just the monetization has gotten worse but also the design decisions have

  • @AwakeVSCR
    @AwakeVSCR7 ай бұрын

    its never been a shooter, its a moba all along.

  • @SpiritedFalcon
    @SpiritedFalcon7 ай бұрын

    Ive completely dropped ranked, and barely play tank anymore. I lost like 4 games yesterday, off of my tank not having the battlepass unlike their's, smh. I legit have to go Bastion/Hanzo just to deal with Mauga, and im someone who plays Genji like 90% of the time. Also, Kiriko, Bap and Ana are still extremely broken, have been broken for years, and knowing the incompetent balance team, will remain broken.

  • @voltaire3539
    @voltaire35397 ай бұрын

    I really like your takes in general when it comes to more complex topics, I also enjoy your videos because of the way you articulate and elaborate your arguments, it reminds a lot of the way that I articulate on spanish so it makes me feel focused on what you're saying, good content

  • @3boodq8
    @3boodq87 ай бұрын

    Cant wait for the nerds to type “kill the healers” 🤓🤓🤓

  • @Oreoezi
    @Oreoezi7 ай бұрын

    I never considered Overwatch to have much competitive integrity considering how often it kept adding heroes. You don't see Valve adding another weapon to Counter-Strike every few months. You don't see new pieces getting added to chess. Overwatch has always been artificially inflating its complexity by adding new mechanics or reworking existing ones. Any true competitive game finds a recipe that works and builds upon that.

  • @hin200

    @hin200

    7 ай бұрын

    Nah, firstly cs:go isn't a game where it needs complexity(cause every change is makes people very angry), and more for it's formula, chess.. it's like how many centuries game?.. OW2 rn makes really unnecessary complexity which isn't fun, but IT's fun cause of IT'S Complexity which is not really popular in other games excluding mobas(Paladins is dying rn, so I don't think we need to consider it)

  • @silbersoule7579

    @silbersoule7579

    7 ай бұрын

    League of Legends: *sweats nervously*

  • @Oreoezi

    @Oreoezi

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Veroxus who is this "they" you are referring to?

  • @notturok7841

    @notturok7841

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Veroxusyou should make a response video. Would love to hear what you have as a defense.

  • @Sigma1

    @Sigma1

    7 ай бұрын

    Have you heard of en passant?

  • @devilstriangle1104
    @devilstriangle11047 ай бұрын

    You should do more videos like this, i laughed my ass off the entire video. But in seriousness, its all facts you spit and mostly the same reasons i quitted this game as well.

  • @Goku-lf7op
    @Goku-lf7op7 ай бұрын

    id recommend playing trepang2 if you're bored of the disaster that is multiplayer fps right now. It's really fun and has one of the best soundtracks I've ever heard.

  • @Kryptic245
    @Kryptic2457 ай бұрын

    Why is support still busted? Let's see. What role were the last three new, locked behind a battle pass heroes? Support. Blizzard now says they will look into buffing tanks and DPS soon. Right before releasing a new tank and DPS hero. Interesting. 🤔

  • @Mbabbb399
    @Mbabbb3997 ай бұрын

    I’ve taken a break as well I really don’t want to deal with this crap anymore. The balance is horrible they don’t listen to players keep buffing supports. The characters I want to play for the most part are basically useless. The only thing I enjoy playing anymore is Hanzo literally the opposite play style that I’m used to with Zar mauga is not engaging to me.

  • @Steve_5000
    @Steve_50007 ай бұрын

    Hi, I found your channel not that long ago and I have one question to you - What's your opinion about changing sensitivity in a sense that is it better to stick to one to master it or change it once for a while to make it more comfortable in that specific moment? I'm asking this because I came across both of these statements and I don't really know what to think about that. Anyways if you could anwser to this I would be grateful. Thanks

  • @GREED_EU

    @GREED_EU

    7 ай бұрын

    Changing sens is good

  • @Steve_5000

    @Steve_5000

    7 ай бұрын

    @@GREED_EU Oh ok, thx for anwser. I was on same sens for like 3 years now

  • @TankMAIN877
    @TankMAIN8776 ай бұрын

    Dude its the worst i have ever seen. have said for years that the match maker is forcing wins and loses. i can predict what games i win and what games i lose before the game starts.

  • @alfiegwilliam577
    @alfiegwilliam5777 ай бұрын

    Love ur content

  • @okidj683
    @okidj6837 ай бұрын

    Hey Greed, I'm just here to say that this perfectly sums up my frustrations with the game. Right now I'm low to mid diamond and it feels like a second job to climb. It doesn't make sense why every game I have to push to my 110% and break my limit, but my 5/8 Genji can just run into the enemy team over and over. And if I win, HE GETS CARRIED TOO. The "get good and carry" mentality can only get you so far, at some point, it takes a toll on the mind. And whats worse is that people can play 5-8 games per season, and stay in diamond/plat. Or even just be unranked and be put into low diamond games. Overwatch is created to collect the most human suffering as fast as possible. I love your Overwatch videos, but I would never ask you to put yourself through this hell. Time to play other games.

  • @skorpers
    @skorpers7 ай бұрын

    Why would top 500 players be arsed about whether or not their players should have good tracking skills or be upset that superior tracking was the diff?

  • @GREED_EU

    @GREED_EU

    7 ай бұрын

    Because every other aspect of the game was moot at that point

  • @ETJakaEli
    @ETJakaEli6 ай бұрын

    4:19 that was the best line in the history of lines

  • @its_lucky252
    @its_lucky2527 ай бұрын

    this is a juicy one. although pretty short. also you're reading from a script. i prefer when you don't though but that's my opinion

  • @recon1506
    @recon15067 ай бұрын

    I stopped playing for maybe over 2 weeks and have tried other games since the competive scene is just gone

  • @iPhenomenal27
    @iPhenomenal277 ай бұрын

    Day 1 - of asking for Suzu buffs. It should cleanse, boop, stun and deal small damage.

  • @finjji
    @finjji6 ай бұрын

    bro can u do this for season 9 becasue i love your point of view. also great video

  • @hoarsebard
    @hoarsebard7 ай бұрын

    All the way back when Overwatch 1 launched, when they removed the ability to stack heroes, I said to my friend "watch this every patch will now make the game objectively worse" and I was right.

  • @rogue4340
    @rogue43406 ай бұрын

    Waiting to see if they get thier shit together in season 9, as of now it's either no one dying or even tanks getting bursted out in few seconds.

  • @plato1637
    @plato16377 ай бұрын

    Greed what are the best scenarios in kovaaks to track mercy when she's on her ult?

  • @GREED_EU

    @GREED_EU

    7 ай бұрын

    Join my discord and use the playlists in the playlists section

  • @Karthig1987
    @Karthig19877 ай бұрын

    As someone who only played OW1 till comp season 4 and then dropped off because life boy am i glad i never came back. As a dummbass who greatly enjoyed OW1 from the beta and got it for 20usd cheaper it sucks that the game(yes according to Mr Greed) has come to this. Also as someone who used to enjoy Mercy, Mei and rein must mercy and mei be removed from the game like you suggest? At least mercy anyway i don't think you mentioned mei in the same breath. What would you do for rein? Why remove bastion as opposed to making him and zenyetta actual glass cannons? Sorry if my questions seem simple or stupid as i think i max was silver in OW1 and early OW1 lol. So i am guessing now i am like Bronze 7 level lol if they should ever create such a level.

  • @GREED_EU

    @GREED_EU

    7 ай бұрын

    Because they can never balance them. They have always been terrible or amazing

  • @Karthig1987

    @Karthig1987

    7 ай бұрын

    O boy that hurts my feelings but your explanation is valid.

  • @juanirdag
    @juanirdag7 ай бұрын

    How do I get Samito to react to this video.

  • @iPhenomenal27
    @iPhenomenal277 ай бұрын

    Other than kovacs, what fps do you recommend right now?

  • @GREED_EU

    @GREED_EU

    7 ай бұрын

    They're all kinda bad. But for raw aim I would say Apex

  • @ABSENT_EU
    @ABSENT_EU7 ай бұрын

    this is the funniest video i've seen in a while

  • @Reager
    @Reager7 ай бұрын

    Genji is pretty decent rn because of the current meta, i do think he deserve buffs but it is not that deep, you tried to spam shurikens without hitting your dash in a Bastion(the dps with most hp in the game) while there is a Mercy and a Moira that threw her orb, and then you use your dragonblade on a Bastion again after a Moira uses COALESCENCE and a Mercy uses VALKYRYE

  • @lilbongchainz2870

    @lilbongchainz2870

    7 ай бұрын

    I think this comment sums up why the game isn't fun at the moment though.Back at the start of OW1 a kill would just be a kill. Now the gameplay is to wait until everyone else has used cooldowns before you can kill anything. Which, in m opinion, is inherently un-fun. You can argue it adds a strategic layer, but to me its just boring - the strategy should come from team comps and positioning, not just from buttons presses which negate other buttons presses.

  • @Reager

    @Reager

    7 ай бұрын

    yeah i agree, but it is what it is, i still think you can have fun but definitely way less than ow1

  • @bwkingsnake9405
    @bwkingsnake94057 ай бұрын

    are you by chance above six feet tall? do you also have above 140iq? i also are you by cahcne top 500 in ow? have you got a high rank in r6 through pure mechanichal skill?

  • @Okina-Kev
    @Okina-Kev5 ай бұрын

    Its the garbage matchmaking for me like i really cant stand it. 75% of players just play rank for the sake of playing rank and dont care about ranking up. Players who have no business being in rank period cuz of the devs incompetence to fix the matchmaking. It also doesnt help that most of matches were filled with ppl who cant use basic ping systems and or communication or nobody wants to be on coms. Rank is filled with people who just dont give a damn so its better to play with a full consistent group.

  • @MrTrue-ge5ce
    @MrTrue-ge5ce7 ай бұрын

    Cries in frog tears. RIP lucio

  • @GokuBlackRose978
    @GokuBlackRose9787 ай бұрын

    I just got back from a 4 month hiatus and went for 2 matches, I wanted to play reaper cause I like reaper(this was quick play) got immediately stomped upon and yeahhhh this game ain’t fun, thought comp was terrible but now quick play is littered with sweaty people and it’s annoying, the match dosent even last 5 mins before we lose.

  • @ethanstroup7394
    @ethanstroup73947 ай бұрын

    As someone who has never played or touched this game in his life, this game is dogshit and I wholeheartedly agree with the premise of this thumbnail. And yes I also did not watch the video.

  • @psycoskunk9145
    @psycoskunk91457 ай бұрын

    They need to go the Paladins route and add a bit of Anti-Healing to everyone’s shots, with a higher percentage for DPS players because they’ve been struggling so much (except Bastion of course). Something like 15% for Tanks and Supports and up to 40% for DPS depending on who you’re playing as with certain heroes who’re struggling more having a lot more Anti-Heal in their attacks (Genji would get the full 40% because, well, the first 50 seconds of the video says it all). Maybe the Anti-Healing could be a strictly DPS Passive or something.

  • @bichitomax

    @bichitomax

    7 ай бұрын

    I think this game ttk is too short for an antil-heal system. And the one un paladins is flawed.

  • @Ash-tm2sv

    @Ash-tm2sv

    7 ай бұрын

    The Paladins system is truly not without flaw. With every patch and new support hero/rework theyre having to introduce mechanics that ignore anti heal. I believe by now there are 2 ultimates, a talent and 2 shop items to boost it. Keep in mind PAladins also has a lot more healing amp effects than Overwatch. Anas nade being the only example which boosts healing it would push it to be EVEN stronger. And now do we really want that...

  • @Dj_531
    @Dj_5316 ай бұрын

    Why the fuck is bastion still in the game im dyinggggg

  • @SomeSuperGiant
    @SomeSuperGiant7 ай бұрын

    I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks maunga is broken. There isn’t a worse feeling then seeing as you are about to with the other team picks maunga and some broken support.

  • @billy_cross5580

    @billy_cross5580

    6 ай бұрын

    I know Maga is basically paid to win. I mean he’s behind a pay wall. You gotta buy the season pass to get him, but that aside new shit and almost every game is always OP for a while it even if it’s not a cost an item that cost you it still draws a lot interest brings people back to play when when there’s an OP item everybody wants to acquire it play with that COP it is the shit out of other players that don’t have it. It’s just so happens though that this one’s also behind the pay wall, so it’s kind of really but the OP status of these things never last that long it’ll get nerve eventually I’m not sure it will do much damage to it given that it’s you know he’s head scan, and he pretty much can stand all by himself

  • @frosty4894
    @frosty48947 ай бұрын

    tbh I think now overwatch has 4 big problems: Mauga meta, immortality abilities, heal numbers being too high and burst damage being too high. Flats had the opinion that antinade may feel oppressive because of the high damage numbers and a big change to the numbers to lower the ttk might balance out the antinade and if it doesn't it can be tweaked. If they can fix these the game is good in the balance department + new ranked will be a big improvement and the new added rank with the rank resets will make a good experience.

  • @Grux_ASG
    @Grux_ASG7 ай бұрын

    bro wants to try the new tarky wipe, useable recoil? bet

  • @markhumphreys4496
    @markhumphreys44967 ай бұрын

    Lifeweaver was weak when he came out to competitive lobbies and this contributed to less battle passes being bought. Ik once time passes and most people who will get the battle pass have gotten him and then they’ll nerf Maiga

  • @zsd6344
    @zsd63447 ай бұрын

    Didn't disagree with a single point in the vid. W as always

  • @aspottedfriend4289
    @aspottedfriend42897 ай бұрын

    Why didn’t you go for the hero that is pocketing the bastion…

  • @GREED_EU

    @GREED_EU

    7 ай бұрын

    It's last fight. She has Valk. She has a genji she can fly too. They have a CD and ult advantage in last fight and a bastion with turret config. The turret will delete my rein once they apply any pressure to him at all. So I have to kill the bastion, or I lose. There are a million reasons as to why I go for bastion here.

  • @beleagueredbeluga5228
    @beleagueredbeluga52287 ай бұрын

    How does Kiriko keep filtering so many t500 players? She cant keep getting away with it lmao!

  • @val26874
    @val268747 ай бұрын

    Since you play a whole bunch of shooters, which other ones would you recommend trying first? Also to who? I'm emigrating to The Finals, with maybe some Deep Rock Galactic.

  • @GREED_EU

    @GREED_EU

    7 ай бұрын

    The finals has SBMM worse than Apex Legends. So I'm already done with it

  • @doctoroppa7991

    @doctoroppa7991

    7 ай бұрын

    Whats SBMM

  • @iPhenomenal27

    @iPhenomenal27

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@doctoroppa7991In Apex Legends, skill-based matchmaking (SBMM) aims to create fair and challenging matches by assessing players' skill levels. The game considers factors like kill/death ratio, damage dealt, and other performance metrics to gauge a player's skill. As you play more matches, the system adjusts and tries to pair you with opponents of similar skill, promoting a more competitive and enjoyable gameplay experience. Keep in mind that game developers may periodically update or tweak SBMM algorithms to improve the matchmaking process.

  • @val26874

    @val26874

    7 ай бұрын

    @@doctoroppa7991 Skill based matchmaking. The idea is the game gives you a "rating" (usually hidden) and tries to put you against players with a similar rating. Results may vary, side effects may include degraded ping, acute meta devotion, extended queue times, elevated toxicity, increased prevalence of smurfs and/or cheaters, decreased play style diversity, and chronic sweatiness.

  • @doctoroppa7991

    @doctoroppa7991

    7 ай бұрын

    @@val26874 thanks! I think the only thing that ever gets to me is queue times, as long as the game feel in the hands is good, i tend to tolerate a lot of the rest.

  • @PooPooPawChew
    @PooPooPawChew7 ай бұрын

    I left after season 3 and truly don't know how anyone still plays this game.

  • @de3invoker965
    @de3invoker9657 ай бұрын

    this video is a piece of art xDD

  • @ZarelidT
    @ZarelidT7 ай бұрын

    4:45 dude this is EVERYONE IN THE COMMENTS. I’ve been playing for a year and I’ve literally never met anyone that doesn’t believe this is the main cause for leaving. TO PLAY OW YOU JUST SUCK AT EVERY GAME YOU HAVR ALL EVER PLAYED.

  • @desgroid
    @desgroid7 ай бұрын

    Played since 2018 and my desire to play it is gone. Haven’t played in months. 5v5 is trash, no more second tank to pickup the slack from the other trash one. Nobody fears the dps anymore, all support players know they can comfortably approach dps heroes an win because they’re op af. Can’t get skins because you gotta get battlepass and treat it as a second job to get them instead of free lootboxes and coins. Unranked mode is sweaty af that it makes ranked look tame. Win-loss ratio in this game doesn’t matter if you the most braindead team or not because I’ve gone 5-0 and either stayed same rank or deranked by 1 or 2 levels then go 2-5 and rank up, how am I to take that seriously.

  • @gamist8166
    @gamist81667 ай бұрын

    I wish this game got more tracking heroes. Soldier is super fun, but anybody should prefer bap. Symm used to be pretty tracking heavy, but takes a specific brawl v brawl matchup to not be a right click bot with her 2 shot buffs. She was kinda bad in ranked but I just don't see her as a primarily tracking hero anymore. Zarya is cool, it's the only other tank I like playing besides ball, so pretty much the only tank I enjoy right now. Who do you track on support with? The closest I can think of is baps.. burst rifle. Moira doesn't count. That's not tracking, that's just a poorly designed character. I got really excited when a tracking beam was leaked for illari, but then.. that's just her healing method... And there's so much anti-tracking for headshots it's CRAZY. Symm and zarya have no need for headshots, and honestly with these two heroes, it's understandable. Their focuses are a little split over raw mechanics like a hitscan hero. But then illari heal isn't allowed headshots. Echo beam. Mauga makes them on fire and headshots are worthless... I do just need to pick up Sombra and tracer, but fuck. It's either track for point blank assassinations, or troll on soldier, or playing fucking pilltrack on zarya the whole time. I hope a good mid/long range headshot tracking hero gets released some day.

  • @RandomAusFan
    @RandomAusFan7 ай бұрын

    Real i dont even think the s9 changes will do anything I just get fucked over cuz i decided to play the tracer hero or the lucio hero and the doom hero instead of the battlepass tank hero or counterpicking with easier heroes to play Man ow2 season 1 was really the best season Shame we cant go back to 2016 again

  • @garikek

    @garikek

    7 ай бұрын

    Season 9 will only change the ranked mode, potentially making it better. Everything else will only get worse because it always gets worse and has been getting worse for the last year. Just gotta wait for overwatch classic to be released, that's the only way to play good old overwatch once again.

  • @RandomAusFan

    @RandomAusFan

    7 ай бұрын

    @@garikek unfortunately that wont happen So we stuck with a painful mess of suffering on the genji hero despite elite and sufficient mastery and knowledge to play him along with the other heroes i mentioned getting fucked over cuz easier to play option that requires none of the skill or knowledge just are vastly better for value And i who knew the battlepass implementation would actually far worse for the game than lootboxes lol

  • @ryanschuch1832
    @ryanschuch18327 ай бұрын

    Haven’t watched the video yet but based off of some peoples’ comments, I wanna input my own thoughts. I have been top 500 consistently in ow1 and ow2, have played against every owl player or big streamer you can think of, and have a lot of experience in those high rated lobbies (rank 50+). Not that people should agree with me because of this, but I think it offers a good perspective from a support player that mains Ana/zen, and plays at the highest level. With the new additions to the support roster, role passive, and tweaking of support abilities, I have personally come to the conclusion that every support character should not be able to self-heal. That is, a bap should not be able to shift heal himself, an Ana should not be able to nade herself, illari should not be able to self-heal off of pylon, etc etc. I truly believe that support should be a high risk/high reward role, because you really have the most impact out of any other role in the game. You can quite literally do everything. You can pick people off, heal your brain dead teammates to keep them alive, and create/take space through offensive abilities like Ana nade. Every other role is limited in their impact when it comes to dealing with enemies or supporting your teammates, which makes support an overpowered role when you really think about it. Why should a Baptiste be able to deal more dmg/min than a soldier, while having an instant heal, a heal over time role passive that can be activated INSTANTLY off of a self heal ability, and if all else fails, a 5 second immortality. That’s also assuming his team doesn’t help him whatsoever and the other support doesn’t heal him. Supports really should all be like a zenyatta, super high risk but high reward gameplay. I’m not saying to get rid of all these abilities, but rather make it so pylon can’t heal yourself, shift can heal everyone but baptiste, and Ana nade can heal teammates, purple enemies, but can’t heal yourself. It might be a hot take, but that’s my opinion anyway. It’ll piss a lot of people off, but let’s face it, support is also the most boosted role in the game. This will really make positioning and awareness the upmost of importance, and the whole player base will need to adapt and become better if they don’t wanna get shit on every single game by flankers. It will also have indirect nerfs as well, because without self heal, supports will have to hold onto cool-downs and stop chucking them OFF CD at tanks. I don’t think it’s a perfect fix, and it would obv need testing, but I think it’s a good idea at the very least. TLDR; tweak the support self-heal abilities so they cannot heal themselves with anything, only their teammates.

  • @RAntonio93

    @RAntonio93

    7 ай бұрын

    Self heal sucks, I agree. But supports need to be able to peel for themselves through abilities. Yes, Suzu/teleport in one character is overkill. And yes Lamp and Regen burst in one character is overkill. But tank is by far the highest impact role. If there is a tank diff you have literally no chance of winning. Mauga can kill, make space, seperate the entire team with his alt, and promote self healing for his own team.

  • @nathancasey7712
    @nathancasey77127 ай бұрын

    This is why I only play overwatch 1 emulator.

  • @bichitomax
    @bichitomax7 ай бұрын

    1:46 oof clean!

  • @everythingkenx
    @everythingkenx7 ай бұрын

    Play The Finals, haven't had this much fun with a game in years

  • @GREED_EU

    @GREED_EU

    7 ай бұрын

    The finals was good until they added SBMM. I had a 4kd or something high like that and was put in what I can only assume is the top bracket and it was awful

  • @billy_cross5580
    @billy_cross55806 ай бұрын

    Well, you know I hadn’t really noticed it because I almost only ever place support but it’s getting stupid. Here’s one thing the more you indoors and and don’t get me wrong. Endorsing makes sense you get points towards battle pass right but sometimes you just don’t wanna endorse because everybody sucked, but the most you and the more you endorse, the better teams you get don’t believe me try it although your mileage may vary because I think there’s a lot of other things going on here I think if you’re not spending money if you don’t have the battle pass if you haven’t bought you know you know what the name of the currency is I don’t know how many times recently I’ve ended up with a team that got through an entire fucking match where none of us were able to get any kills 00000 healing from me, but no kills even from me on Moira and and I’m a guy who used to you know get 10 K and healing and 2530 kills in additionbut I haven’t bought the last two battle passes. I refused to buy the current one just to get the Magua. I won’t be bullied into spending money. I personally think that they’re destroying their own game.

  • @emmeboi
    @emmeboi6 ай бұрын

    agree with everything u said.

  • @toku5397
    @toku53977 ай бұрын

    see u next week for some more overwatch

  • @ratsmasher2583
    @ratsmasher25837 ай бұрын

    bro just wait another season im sure they will figure it out i promise

  • @a_blue_chicken1093
    @a_blue_chicken10936 ай бұрын

    single player games > multi player games

  • @literallysweden
    @literallysweden7 ай бұрын

    I also came back to the game after about a half year break and to be honest, the game feels much more fun to me. My matches feel much more fair and other than mauga violating the backline, the game feels more balanced (from my perspective). I don't feel most of the things u mentioned but that may be cause I am not high ranked.

  • @asnd..8349
    @asnd..83497 ай бұрын

    Ok, the supports aren’t “OP.” Hero’s like Ana, mercy, BAP, and Moria received little to no buffs at all. It’s just that without a second tank to punish supports, they are way more influential. Seriously, Ana and mercy are still the same characters. I like supports having this much impact on the game rather than just being heal bots that the dps and tanks need to protect. It adds fun to a role which most prefer not to play. Anyone who played ow1 knows what I’m talking about, without role Q no one wanted to play support. But at least 2 people had to incase you wanted to win. Even with role Q support was the least played or slightly played more than tank but that’s only because of double shield making tank just not fun at all. All in all, Overwatch will never find balance unless 6v6 comes back. Having 5 players, and 2 of those players being supports, just makes the game feel awkward.

  • @Barrnickle
    @Barrnickle7 ай бұрын

    Haven’t played ina bit but I’m a support main, and supports are for sure overtuned rn but it sucks to hear all the hate on support cause it’s really not the support roles fault. People will say stop complaining about 6v6 it’s never coming back blah blah but the facts are removing one tank is the cause of this whole mess. 1 tank means it needs to be gigabuffed to function and since there is only one tank it’s easier for the supports to focus their resources on them and keep them alive longer which leads to undying tanks. And since there is only one tank and the game is less of a team game and more of a death match because of the 5v5 shift, supports MUST be overtuned because if they aren’t it’s gonna be a shitshow, supports are vital to a team which makes them a target so with the subtraction of 1 of their meat shields they are now vulnerable and this was the only way to “compensate” for that. Long story short Blizzard needs to stop being stubborn and go back to true OW 6v6, and actually attempt to balance out the issues like double shield instead of just running away from the problem.

  • @Barrnickle

    @Barrnickle

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Veroxus I don’t even know how to respond to this.

  • @doctoroppa7991
    @doctoroppa79917 ай бұрын

    Ow1 aim engine wtv it was felt way better and more responsive. It made rhe game somewhat fun no matter the state the game was in. Idk what they changed, maybe the voices got to me and im delulu. Genji is forced to play a rather passive or patient for the more polite way of putting it. Akin to thinning out a crashing wave as an Ezreal. There is no amount of mechanical skill that can overcome the “design” of support gameplay loop of not being punished in neutrals cuz of multi-lives design. It probably feels the worst for genji, its alright for tracer. Being challenger and t10 in league and ow respectively, as a moba ow sucks because its just abilities and ult charge no other ressources so lack of skill expression, and as a shooter ow sucks cuz the aim feels off (at least i got to learn high sens, turning on low sens feels like aiming with a glorious model wtv with the old sensor) and also the lack of skill expression cuz there really isnt a skill match up like it used to. Ball used to be able to outplay so much and still have impact, now it doesnt matter cuz the raw numbers are so high and everything is so stable, same with genji. The dopamine is still there in the roots of the game, but it just gutted every aspect of it, the viscreal, the smoothness, the sounds, the UI, the t500 icon, the old headshot sound, the game play loop, and the responsiveness. Hot take: i’d rather play double shield than hit unending health bars cuz at the very least they can die inside their shields. (Positioning mattered more too in double shield) If this is the loop, give dps back the ult charge taken sway from the ult charge nerfs, shits unkilleable while the cds are up and u get less ult charge. Its not like dps have the most game changing ults on their own, outside of a few exceptions in specific contexts and they general have margin of errors cuz they take skill to use) Objectively worse feel and less enjoyable when comparing the 2.

  • @wicked04
    @wicked047 ай бұрын

    yes bastion, but don't let mei get away for free

  • @TheOhm122
    @TheOhm1227 ай бұрын

    The problem as far as I can see with Overwatch currently is that it's not a competitive game in the slightest. The balance is just too unbalanced to make it fun in a competitive setting with easy to use characters outweighing the potential of more risk vs reward chars in the game, not helped by the actual paywall they had setup with the battlepass. It's literally better to play the game by hopping into QP for a half hour or so and fuck around and call it for the day once that stops being fun. As a result of the lacking competitive spirit, it permeates throughout the game and causes people to give less of a shit in rank, it wasn't too long ago I remember pro players complaining that folks didn 't bother joining the vc anymore in the higher elos, which I've noticed myself in my mid-elo games when me and my friends tried comp to get points for gold guns. I say this as someone in the EU where comp has kind of always been a 50/50 in the sense of whether your teammates could speak english or not, but at least they joined the vc. Nowadays people don't do that. Overall, it's just easier not to give a shit anymore, and it sucks to feel that way about this game.

  • @billy_cross5580
    @billy_cross55806 ай бұрын

    Yes, exactly you know you’ll go from one team where everybody knows. What the fuck they’re doing. The tank is a beast the healers you know I shouldn’t say this cause I always play it almost always play a healer, but the other healers actually doing something the DPS can actually kill things you know what I’m saying you’ll get a team that’s really fucking good, and then the next match you’ll get a team that can’t do shit they just spend their entire match running back from the spawn point one at a time mind you you know you’re back off from the fight when you see the last guy go down from you know getting over his head and you can’t keep them alive with five people focusing himfactor the other healer so you back off and wait for your team to catch up and they just run past you at a time to die over and over again I am trying not to quit matches anymore but Jesus Christ gets frustrating

  • @rossruss6901
    @rossruss69017 ай бұрын

    "Why the fuck is Bastion" I as a guy who played Tank all the time (got my passion rank to level 50/51 on it and was gold 3 on it for like 5 plus seasons before giving up for many reasons) keep wondering this myself as all he does is make playing this game more annoying then it needs to be, even more so if you play Tank. The same goes for things like Torb, Pharamercy, Widow, Hanzo, half the broken support abilities in the game and that Tank mostly is just Rock, paper, scissors at this point (thanks 5v5 and bad balancing). This is basically why I stopped playing the game right before Christmas and decided to play something else instead and just sit out for the rest of the season and honestly maybe for good since I was less angry during my time not playing OW than playing it.

  • @jcast1749

    @jcast1749

    7 ай бұрын

    What tank do you play

  • @rossruss6901

    @rossruss6901

    7 ай бұрын

    @@jcast1749 D.va, Sigma, and JQ with Rein and Ram as backup. I know this probably makes my Bastion agreement sound like a skill issue (which I admit to some degree it is), but I 100% do not enjoy playing against Bastion (stand behind a wall or play DM/Shield/Suck bot) or The snipers (if you don't focus Hanzo or Widow the whole game you lose and low-rank players don't know what a wall is). The Pharamercy hate also comes from me begging my DPS to hit their shots or I need to help them with it the whole game (which gets worse if the other enemy DPS is Widow or something which I also have to focus on)

  • @Cptngulag
    @Cptngulag7 ай бұрын

    Sorry I was late this time

  • @Fuzzle3049
    @Fuzzle30497 ай бұрын

    It's too ez

  • @rokkalombardi2196
    @rokkalombardi21967 ай бұрын

    Started reminiscing about old OW and I booted up the game. Awful experience. Even when I want to play the game the balance and greed reminds me of what this game has become. Sad how everything you said was true.

  • @Bleu_Sky
    @Bleu_Sky7 ай бұрын

    I deleted and it felt right

  • @quickscoperr
    @quickscoperr7 ай бұрын

    I would left too if i was aim nerd and playing only zarya XD

  • @Pophero234
    @Pophero2347 ай бұрын

    Agreed

  • @lorddogeleni
    @lorddogeleni7 ай бұрын

    When I heard "brain-damaged," I literally cringed on so many levels. Regardless of the context that is still a poor misuse of words. When season 9 comes around, you will be back. They always come back.

  • @GREED_EU

    @GREED_EU

    7 ай бұрын

    Yes I will. But I likely won't stay. I have played 6 games on Overwatch since November, and coaching the game is my job.

  • @lorddogeleni

    @lorddogeleni

    7 ай бұрын

    @@GREED_EU So you are doing a job on something you don't like? That's assuming you are getting paid for your coaching lessons. In that same regard, I should get paid for letting someone burn cigerettes out on me.

  • @dboyedoe
    @dboyedoe7 ай бұрын

    Top500BTW 😈😂

  • @miagui1808
    @miagui18087 ай бұрын

    Mauga release alongside other braindead characters still not being touched, and the design philosophy of making the game the easiest as possible is almost making me want to stop playing Right now the game is unironically pay2win due to Mauga, imagine trying to play tank around GM and not having Mauga, you're at severe disadvantage lmao. It's actually funny to think that Rein exists in the same game as Mauga That and Blizzard constantly making mistakes on patch notes ever since the game released, the only good thing they did recently was the Zen mini-rework, but even that wasn't very good because for some reason a glass cannon character now has 225 HP Unfortunately the future of the game is indeed walking into a state of just being casual and broken, with low skill high reward characters being released as a way for Blizzard to cash the highest amount of money through skins sold and battle passes

  • @neonoir__
    @neonoir__7 ай бұрын

    calling yznsa boosted, W video

  • @ShinimagisFTW
    @ShinimagisFTW7 ай бұрын

    I have a solution. Turn all supports to DPS and keep tanks as tanks. Overwatch saved.

  • @CROSSFADE69
    @CROSSFADE697 ай бұрын

    Overwatch is probably the only game where adding new stuff made the game worse over time.

  • @powerups5796
    @powerups57967 ай бұрын

    Dude

  • @snakevenoum6395
    @snakevenoum63957 ай бұрын

    never liked yznsa.

  • @GoibniuNihiliste
    @GoibniuNihiliste7 ай бұрын

    They should Make Discord a projectile. Make it so it has a decay so the damage starts at 15% and falls to 0 over 5 seconds. Mark Zen for death by highlighting him in the map when using Discord. Take away his health increase. Make harmony orb take Ammunition. and give him 2 orbs. Push Discord Cooldown to 8 seconds. OW2 saved.

  • @wm8401
    @wm84017 ай бұрын

    I'm happy for you that you've moved on but I miss the unhinged rants about zero IQ balance. Can you spare an off the cuff one for the lads like, just a wee taste ... you could patreon it.

  • @Queenof09Nicole
    @Queenof09Nicole7 ай бұрын

    You know its bad when Fortnites Battle Pass is leagues better. Even if somehow nothing in the pass was your taste, The BP still gives like 1500 Vbucks which is more than the Bp costs. In other words, as long as you play the game enough, you can get away with buying the battlepass once and never again.

  • @bundallicious
    @bundallicious7 ай бұрын

    thought you said you werent gonna play it again ages ago, yikes

  • @gopniktime9826

    @gopniktime9826

    7 ай бұрын

    He has a video that’s very similar I think

  • @6torthor
    @6torthor7 ай бұрын

    Tbh though, a lot of your points are being fixed/have been fixed. Biggest worry is ranked system. Not protecting OW’s many issues (it’s far from good from where it used to be), but it’s being addressed and the community is optimistic I’d check out season 9 for a fair review to give Microsoft Blizzard a chance since Blizzard’s no longer controlled like a puppet by Satanic Bobby from Activision Blizzard This is coming from a GM1 Genji main that scrims 4.1k+ in collegiate

  • @zsd6344

    @zsd6344

    7 ай бұрын

    bro thinks microsoft is going to save ow ☠

  • @6torthor

    @6torthor

    7 ай бұрын

    @@zsd6344 Given your comment, you're probably a casual that's got no clue about how important this is. Look at any OW related Discord or subreddit right now, tons of people are celebrating Bobby Kotick's departure yesterday due to the Microsoft deal Spilo, Flalts, SVB, and Stylosa recently had a co-livestream where they discussed this and all agreed, like the general consensus of the community is, that this is nothing but positive for Blizzard hopefully operating independently again and not having to tailor content that suites executives that just want to print cash. This is one of many reasons beloved Jeff Kaplan left a few years ago

  • @zsd6344

    @zsd6344

    7 ай бұрын

    @@6torthor not reading allat but im just going to assume ur saying that microsoft is a good thing for overwatch. and ur not wrong i agree. it depends whether blizzard can actually act on their own or not.

  • @zsd6344

    @zsd6344

    7 ай бұрын

    @@6torthor im also not a casual. but it depends on whatever you consider to be "casual"

  • @zsd6344

    @zsd6344

    6 ай бұрын

    @@6torthor i thought bobby leaving would be huge what happened

  • @nickL2302
    @nickL23027 ай бұрын

    LOL I dont even know why am i watching this video, tbh who the F play Overwatch after they deleted everything .

  • @Strife1425
    @Strife14257 ай бұрын

    This is coming off as hypocritical and clickbait for views, you did this video already like 6 months ago then subsequently you still uploaded gameplay videos like that never happened… i am not going to engage in this channel anymore

  • @GREED_EU

    @GREED_EU

    7 ай бұрын

    Watch the overwatch videos I uploaded after that initial one. They all came from the same 2-3 day playing session and I did actually quit. This video was made because I can back and requit again

  • @RAntonio93
    @RAntonio937 ай бұрын

    Nobody plays this game anymore. 7-10 minute que times in masters2 on support, where they are pulling diamond players up 3-4 tiers in order to fill a lobby. My friend’s list is completely empty. My patience is gone to play this game. I probably play like 8-10 hours per season these days and then stop playing. Nothing ever changes. Same shit 5v5 formula. Same shit matchmaking. Same shit balancing. You can change the meta tank and meta comps but the fundamentals of the game has been the same since season 1. It’s just garbage plain and simple. Overwatch hasn’t been fun for years.

  • @prosac_war
    @prosac_war7 ай бұрын

    Play paladins

  • @owbobby
    @owbobby7 ай бұрын

    why are you wasting ur energy holy shit

  • @ZAND4TSU
    @ZAND4TSU7 ай бұрын

    This game really sucks for now, could use some improvements.

  • @immortaldev1489
    @immortaldev14897 ай бұрын

    bro you're trying to kill a double pocketed bastion (with armor) and an ability that makes him take reduced damage, and because of that, your team wins via distractions, if you wanna go and make solo plays where teams don't matter, play COD