The hair typing system is the biggest scam in the natural hair community

@NaturalAcademia

3 жыл бұрын

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@carii7504

3 жыл бұрын

So true. It only gets people confused and doesn't even helps with anything. The porososity is more important than the hair type.

@nomisinfo5244

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I think it's so people know what their hair could look like in a certain style. You're gonna go to those who have the same hair type as you because you are able to relate.

@maivalentine7823

3 жыл бұрын

Kutouru~Sama yeah, I wouldn’t say it’s a scam...I would say people are gullible, and as ole girl said aswell they are followers. When I big chopped in 2015 I’m NGL I was sooo excited to see my curly hair. (Because I thought all black people had similar curly hair.) Now I know we all have different hair, that’s ok and I’m still struggling 😜 but at least I know.

@rani.andretti

3 жыл бұрын

@@nomisinfo5244 yeah, it helped me when I was starting out, made it easier to find people with similar hair so I could follow their tutorials and stuff. But then, all I used was the number, because when it comes to the letters, I still don't know which one(s) I'm supposed to belong in lmao. And I don't care tbh, the hair typing system has done its job for me and I'm done with it💁🏽

YES!!! I hate how people say that natural hair is too much work when in reality they overmanipulate their hair. you can literally choose to wash, detangle, moisturize, and leave it in an afro and accept your hair in its natural state.

@NaturalAcademia

3 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY!!!!

@maryapatterson

3 жыл бұрын

Oh the horror!

@deannalove9073

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely not. My hair gets tangled and will dry out if I leave it in a natural state

@sashenkadumerve3017

3 жыл бұрын

I just put it in braids and then but it in a scarf

@bro-ss2eu

3 жыл бұрын

tell me why it takes me 2 hours to derange

I'm so glad this whole hair definition trend missed meee

@sabrinastars1284

3 жыл бұрын

Same tbh I was too lazy to try it 😭 and i didn’t want to manipulate my hair to look different

@Anywayyihao

3 жыл бұрын

Right I never cared for it. I could easily get defined curls, but I love the frizz and volume. All these products are kinda ridiculous. Like who came up with soufflés, custards, gel oil, etc like what

@sabrinastars1284

3 жыл бұрын

xxo Angel and they’re expensive.

@sabrinastars1284

3 жыл бұрын

Deonna HensleyTHIS!!! Exactly why I never tried to define my hair. I felt like it was fake; I wanted love my hair as is, not as defined

@learningisuncomfortable2322

3 жыл бұрын

My hair flourished when I unsubscribed from a lot of youtubers and kept it simple: wash and deep condition with heat cap that was $16 online twice a week, followed by a daily leave in and oil, everything from the drug store. If a I want super defined curled I do a crochet style for a week and put a leave in to my scalp daily. I also agree with the hostility. A woman made a video about how rice water damaged her hair. People were so mean to to her. I didn’t understand why they were so pressed. If she didn’t like it she didn’t like it.

The obsession with products in this community is weird. Products dont grow hair. Your hair will grow at the same rate. You just need to maintain the length using gentle routines. This is why lazy naturals tend to have longer hair. They dont constantly try fast growth gimmicks. I have been natural 2 years and my hair is longer than people who have been doing this for 5 years. I moisturize and leave my hair alone.

@petitesboucles3617

3 жыл бұрын

Actually products can really help with hair growth 😁 but there’s a lot other factors (diet, genetics, physical activity, etc.) and low maintenance is still important to retain lenght.

@wanjirumurimi2916

3 жыл бұрын

@@petitesboucles3617 I respect your view but, any help, if at all, that products help with hair growth ( I.e how hair grows from the shaft) is very minimal. They do assist with hair retention ( maintaining the length achieved which is what people tend to call " hair growth" ) though in conjunction with healthy routines. On their own however, they do little to help one achieve long natural hair.

@petitesboucles3617

3 жыл бұрын

Wanjiru Murimi yes, but I only speak about products that you put on the scalp.

@maryapatterson

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, but leaving your hair alone doesn't make any money( sarcasm)!

@wanjirumurimi2916

3 жыл бұрын

@@maryapatterson Right!

Right the hair typing system is just😑. Then there’s people fight over who is 4c and who isn’t 4c.

@NaturalAcademia

3 жыл бұрын

Girl, it’s starting to get a little concerning

@nolor8397

3 жыл бұрын

The great debate 😂

@lolabunny1157

3 жыл бұрын

I feel like people title their videos to get more views I feel like that’s a issue in my opinion 🤷🏽‍♀️

@weirdmyst7963

3 жыл бұрын

Yo. I showed my cousin my hair and she doesn't have a curl pattern. She straight up told me I have 4b hair and her sister (who has the same hair as me) agreed. I was like "it doesn't matter" but she was like "it does, because mine is 4c!" Hers is harder than mine and its LP, mine is HP and a normal texture. She insisted that mine is 4b and easier to handle. I just gave in because I didn't have the time

@flowergirle9250

3 жыл бұрын

@ Weird Myst People fail to realize how much porosity, strand thickness, and density affects how the hair looks and behaves under water and with products. I am type 4abc with high density, coarse strands, and low porosity. My hair has the tendency to shrink a lot, look really tight under running water, and laughs at most products to the point that I don’t even use them anymore. I just rely on my natural sebum and water. It works for me and even helps to stretch my hair a bit and keep it detangled and manageable.

Anybody: **uses flat iron once** The community: "OH MY GOSH, NO! YOU'RE GOING TO GET HEAT DAMAGE!! All that heat!!"

@NaturalAcademia

3 жыл бұрын

Girl right!!! they be all up in people’s business 🙄 as if there aren’t safe ways to flat iron hair

@milesgs

3 жыл бұрын

Also when you blow dry your hair they cursing you in tha comment as if the hair grows on their scalp 🤦🏿‍♀️ smh

@kefilwesebolai1007

3 жыл бұрын

I’m a straight natural and this has been my struggle with fellow naturals. Like it’s hair it’s not that deep just have fun with your hair. I want to actually go blonde one day 😊

@coffeebean4356

3 жыл бұрын

@@kefilwesebolai1007 I'm sure you would look STUNNING with blonde hair!

@user-qg8ff8sb4h

3 жыл бұрын

lol true and even if you do get heat damage: 1. it's your hair 2. it's JUST hair. 3. if anything happens to it it'll grow back. Too many rules out here man

Natural community is doing too much. Period! 😫 I just stick with black soap, aloe vera,oils and water . I'm done

@NaturalAcademia

3 жыл бұрын

Rightfully so!!

@AnubisUnknown

3 жыл бұрын

Simple

@uzo715

3 жыл бұрын

Me too!

@staceyc9343

3 жыл бұрын

I use to just use my Dax grease, moisturize and braids. I bought sooo much product listening to these people. I've gone back to what I use to use when I was young and my hair was great. Shampoo, condition, moisturize and keep it moving

@Anonyme67

3 жыл бұрын

Aloe vera 😍😍😍😍

"Be simplistic with your routine" I hit armpit length having the simplest of regimens. After 2 years 7 months natural, I've figured out a simple routine that works like magic and that's that. Nobody can tell me nothing!

@marialexha

3 жыл бұрын

Same... I was surprised when I realized my hair was armpit length after 2 years and 5 months of neglecting my hair

@JessicaSmith-ie7cm

3 жыл бұрын

I am surprised I have hair after 8 years of neglecting mine🤣🤣🤣

@bro-ss2eu

3 жыл бұрын

i'm at armpit length and i don't even use leave ins or any thing 1 year and 8 months natural

@jelicianorwood24

3 жыл бұрын

@@marialexha Simple routine in the way for me. I like my steamer and my butter and gel (when I use choose to use it some times.) I'm lazy natural

@RuthiesVlogWorld

3 жыл бұрын

Yep simple is the key

And alot of hair care routines are products that these big youtubers do, are sponsored asf. I also feel like texturism is as bad as colorism. It's like the same thing

@valerieneal2747

3 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS. IT DEFINITELY NEEDED TO BE SAID🌱🌺🌱🌻🌱🌹

@quelquun2018

3 жыл бұрын

It makes me cringe when i hear people with 4c talk about curls in their hair. Babyy, as a 4c girl our hair is coily. The image that the word coil brings to mind and the word curls, its very different. 4c hair is not curly its coily. The middle part of my hair has softer coils and the perimeter of my hair has coarser coils. Simple. No curls, COILS

@sassyqueen9739

3 жыл бұрын

@@quelquun2018 coily is curls

And another thing. . . Folks need to stop crying and complaining over big chop videos. Coveting someone’s hair length makes you bald headed. Folks really need to stop crying over other people hair.

@NaturalAcademia

3 жыл бұрын

I agreee

@PortraitofAsha

3 жыл бұрын

Preach! People are too pressed!!!

@neeciiw7840

3 жыл бұрын

CARAT Mom yess this one☝🏾💯

@YummiLolZ

3 жыл бұрын

CARAT Mom idk what it is but I like watching big chop videos 😭 I just like to watch ppl cut their hair

@blackgothgoddess3164

3 жыл бұрын

@@YummiLolZ I especially love when the ends are damaged to the point of being straight, and then they cut it off. It's so satisfying seeing the hair spring up!🖤🖤

I think typing is so important to many bc it helps with styling. Watching 4c twist outs & bantu knot outs, as well as watching videos with people with 4c & type 4 hair helped me to love my hair and find hairstyles that suited me (as well as seeing 4c rep in a lot of top models). On that same token, I don't think that it's the most important thing in the world, and a lot of people take it too far. But it's def needed.

@evangelinemmayie6116

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@soundreign2319

3 жыл бұрын

Agree it’s helpful combined with the other components that make up ones hair.

@user-qg8ff8sb4h

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah same for me. Otherwise from helping with styling, it really is toxic.

@RuthiesVlogWorld

3 жыл бұрын

I understand what you mean I do love the way our hair ends up being so beautiful on the outcome but it’s when people lie about the products they are using or miss lead people just to buy certain products that don’t do nothing for their hair is crazy

@BklynBabe

3 жыл бұрын

Wut? As a person that has every single one of those patterns on my head, I promise you that pattern is the least likely reason for me to pick a product or style...multitexture people know this. I'm also mulitporosity and multidensity. However, I cannot do any -outs because I have very fine stand that break off, and a cottony texture that leads to frizz. I do wings and keep my hair moisturized. My hair did not like acv or coconut oil. My scalp is high sebum producing, so I have to clarify frequently. I also have personal life choices that I choose to never wear wigs, weaves or braids.

What I dislike is the different type of trends and gimmicks popping up on KZread! I won’t name names. It’s ridiculous. People just expect “fast” hair growth and some miracle hair product 😱😱😱

@NaturalAcademia

3 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY!! I be like what in the scam !?!?

@clarissagold1090

3 жыл бұрын

This is so true

@icedtea9615

3 жыл бұрын

rice water im looking at you

@arfbark

3 жыл бұрын

@Jasmine Aurora It worked for me lol don’t be so quick to judge

Too many rules and my hair still hasn't been growing the way these YTers do. I was misguided and missing edges.

@NaturalAcademia

3 жыл бұрын

Growth takes time smh I hate how much some of these naturals makes it seem like hair grows 10 inches overnight 🤦🏾‍♀️

@stashia3647

3 жыл бұрын

@@NaturalAcademia Yes! And use thousands of products which are always expensive, some of these natural KZreadrs are doing too much to their hair....you only need a simple regimen and it can still grow your hair

@NaturalAcademia

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!!

@NuclearBOOGIEEE

3 жыл бұрын

Half the time these people on KZread aren’t even transparent when it comes to their hair except a very few that will say I only wear my hair out like this for pictures and videos. 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️

@jelissafrank5858

3 жыл бұрын

I realized my diet played a big part in my hair growth. I was buying all these products and then I changed my diet for like a month trying to eat more fruits, vegggies and less processed food. My hair was growing and my nails were stronger. Food and water intake changed the game for me and saved a lot of money and accepting that it takes time. I barely touch my hair and protective style.

I agree 100% about looser textured hair people having struggles with their texture. The internet is filled with type 4 people complaining about their hair as if other textures have it so much easier. I know type 1,2,and 3 people who have complained excessively about their hair and have also chopped it off and struggled to find the right products and struggled with growth and health yet type 4’s think hair struggle is exclusively ours. It’s annoying and it perpetuates this justification of type 4 hate. I have “4C” hair and I LOVE my hair.

@NaturalAcademia

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly ‼️‼️

@sashenkadumerve3017

3 жыл бұрын

I know I have 4A- 3C hair, and we all struggle with growing our hair

@ashleyreannaa293

3 жыл бұрын

well girl hair just like tits just cause you have them naturally don’t mean your gonna love them . hence why people get perms or get a boob job ..people can vent about certain things they don’t like about themselves it’s really not that deep 🤷🏽‍♀️

@twrendy9142

3 жыл бұрын

This! 👏🏾

@adesantos5033

3 жыл бұрын

That is soo true. We are all learning how to work our natural hair. We need to stop dividing our selfs and accept that we have all struggle at some point with our natural hair

Disclaimer: I am a (30+ years) licensed Cosmetologist. Ladies, when you document your daughters hair length, use a tape measure, document the date, her height, and age. Keep a log book, so that you have written documentation along with photos in the event that you need it for legal issues. There is No need to trim hair unless there is damage. If you happen to go to a salon, first make sure that you confirm that they have a posted current Cosmetologist License for your state. During your salon visit, do not allow the stylist to turn you away from the mirror while trimming your hair. (Best to have a friend go with you.) From the consult and start of your hair service, it might be best to get a clear understanding with your stylist, and advise her/him NOT to cut or trim your hair, Nor use any trimming tools/scissors/clippers/edgers/or razors during your hair service. Some stylist want to “up sale” salon service prices or practice a hair style on you by insisting that you need your ends trimmed. Usually the trim turns into a hair cut from telling you 1/2” then they actually cut 2”-3” or more off, which is can be significant length. Hair grows an AVERAGE of 1/2” a month, 6” a year. (One half inch per month, six inches per year.) So if the hair stylist cuts 3” of hair off, it will take you 6 months to grow it back. This is why we don’t think our hair is growing, because we keep cutting off the growth progress or using tools and chemical processes that damage and cause hair breakage. And please don’t get a relaxer or color bleaching, because your hair may break off in no time. I know American society is not adapting to the notion that Black Women and Black Girls could have, or grow long hair, but we can change the narrative, take better care of our “Crown”, and grow it as long as we like. For some reason, we always feel the need to prove to strangers that “this is my real hair” by consenting to strangers touching or pulling ours or our daughters hair. I ask that you NOT CONSENT. Do not let strangers touch your hair, or your daughters hair, because you don’t know what type of “Spirits/Bad Energy” or germs they carry (including Covid-19) or other viruses on their hands or under nails. You Don’t need to prove ANYTHING to ANYONE! I pray my fellow natural “Crown” Sisters stay encouraged, and stay the course retaining or achieving long healthy hair. God Bless

@TriggaTreDay

3 жыл бұрын

Finally a cosmetologist that isn’t insane 😩. I’m not sure why so many black people obsess over cutting or trimming our hair every few weeks. I’m always asked how did my hair grow so fast and my answer is always “I don’t cut my hair 😐”. I dust off single strand knots and split ends individually, and during my second natural hair journey I have only cut 6” off over my 5.5yrs of being natural. Lord they all have the nerve to complain about why their hair isn’t growing but they will cut you if you tell them to stop trimming so much 😂.

@sondrac8809

3 жыл бұрын

Lady LaTre'viette Phantumhive Thank you for seeing the light! Did you take my advice and review “YAO Women of China “ KZread video? The YAO women only cut their hair once in a lifetime at age 18, and wear low manipulation protective hairstyles. Let me know what other subjects the natural “Crown” community would like for me to cover. God Bless

@kjkggjklhkkvvj6962

3 жыл бұрын

Lady LaTre'viette Phantumhive Every time I do my hair I look for single strands knots and splits ends and cut them out one by one. It’s extremely time consuming but it makes more sense then cutting off hair that isn’t messed up. I also found when I was trimming my hair the “regular” way I wasn’t getting all the damage so I was cutting for no reason.

@TriggaTreDay

3 жыл бұрын

@@sondrac8809 I have known about the Yao women for a very long time now. Lol I’m always so confused about why the natural hair community makes their rice water the way that they do. They will mention the Yao women and then make the rice water completely different from how they do it. But to each its own I guess 🤷🏾‍♀️

@TriggaTreDay

3 жыл бұрын

@@kjkggjklhkkvvj6962 it can be very time consuming that’s why I only do it while I’m relaxing watching a movie or talking with friends on the phone. I will have my hair in twist and I will do one twist at a time just feeling for any knots. Then I will quickly scan for split ends. It’s much easier that way then having all of your hair loose.

I’m old enough to be your mother 😊 and am very proud of you. I’ve been natural since 2004 and the gurus back then was Kimmie Tube, Nappy fu and BlackOnyx77, etc. these ladies I respected, then out of the blue everyone is natural, the community grew and the division started along with the creation of product junkies and hair dictators. I stopped watching because I couldn’t take it no more. Now close to twenty years later, I return for recipes for natural products I see it has gotten worse. Speak your truths babygirl, love your transparency. I love my nappy, kinky hair and listen to her closely and not what the top rated YTer says😊😊❤️❤️

@NaturalAcademia

3 жыл бұрын

🥺❤️ thank you! I try to set myself apparent from the trends and false information on social media. I really appreciate you for your support !!

@maryapatterson

3 жыл бұрын

I really love to see these ladies and rejoice at their success! I also rejoice because they set out with a good heart. To teach us how to take care of hair and as long as they are making a few coins, I will rejoice again.

@klt3065

3 жыл бұрын

Doreen Patterson I totally agree sis

@carii7504

3 жыл бұрын

I love this comment😊

@colorfulcodes

3 жыл бұрын

Omg and rustic beauty! The ogs.

Give generously to the poor, not grudgingly, for the Lord your God will bless you in everything you do. Deuteronomy 15:10

@janetsdrawstation

3 жыл бұрын

I get that people overemphasize the hair typing system and there's a lot more to taking care of your hair than just the curl pattern but I also get why people use it. it's a simple way for ppl to get an idea of your hair and how it behaves. for example, 4c hair is gonna shrink more than 3b hair so that's gonna change how someone with 4c hair styles their hair, how often they stretch it, etc

@NaturalAcademia

3 жыл бұрын

I see, I see 🤔

@yourleftknee3720

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you, but the problem with the hair typing system is that they put us into categories when it is really more of a scale. I’m 4C, Chizi Duru is 4C, NaturalAcademia is 4C, KandidKinks is 4C, westafricanbaby is 4C, Tshidi Rdebe is 4C but none of their hair looks EXACTLY alike. I’ve seen similarities between my hair and their own, hence why I follow all of them but our hair is completely different. That’s why I think we should use GreenBeauty’s hair typing system, because it acknowledges the fact that we are all different. I mean, even identical twins don’t look the same, how much black people from different countries/families etc.? And, as NaturalAcademia said in the video: the chart doesn’t even include every curl pattern: people with “I” shape curls like VivsHairTherapy.

@annoyingvegan98

3 жыл бұрын

​@@yourleftknee3720 that's why I said the hair typing system is just a simple way to get an idea of someone's hair and not the end all be all. ofc other things like porosity, density, and thickness are important in assessing our hair but that doesn't mean we should now completely ignore the role that curl pattern can play in how we take care and manage our hair. most people who use the hair typing system aren't really saying that because 2 ppl have the same hair type it's gonna look exactly alike. I think for the most part people understand that natural hair has nuances and it's not all black and white.

@puppyprincess2822

3 жыл бұрын

@@annoyingvegan98 I agree!! It honestly helped me on my natural hair journey cause it gave me an idea of what my hair couldn't do. From fraudulent natural youtbers, I thought my 4c hair was 3b-c. After I found my true pattern, then I started on the process of hair density and porosity, shrinkage, etc.

8:24 I agree. That’s why I only tell people I have type 4 hair when they ask. I don’t get into the whole alphabet thing

@Tai-chan.

3 жыл бұрын

I get really disgusting to other people when i saý i have african decent hair😂...like most people on the island.

@sugar_cube_tootsies1136

3 жыл бұрын

Where I'm from ppl dont ask that they just say I love your curls lol which is nice, thank god I dont have that problem bc I ain't explaining shii

@orselenadidi

3 жыл бұрын

@@Tai-chan. It's also my favorite way to call my hair, African hair ❤

@deannalove9073

3 жыл бұрын

When people ask my hair type I say its type 👉🏽hair... Never understood the number thing

@sassyqueen9739

3 жыл бұрын

Same I say type 4😭

4:54 is literally the key 🔑 after quarantine started I stopping touching my hair as much and I noticed so much more growth. Let protective styling be your best friend 🗣🗣🗣

@NaturalAcademia

3 жыл бұрын

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Preach 🙌🏾 I have super coily hair and I love my coils but chiiiile I’m lazy so I rock my undefined hairstyles and I love it. It really doesn’t matter 🤷🏽‍♀️

@NaturalAcademia

3 жыл бұрын

AS YOU SHOUUULLLDDDD ‼️

@ceciliaageofaquarius1225

3 жыл бұрын

You're cute af 😍

@April-dk9ui

3 жыл бұрын

Cecilia Age of Aquarius so sweet, thank you! 😊

To answer your question about why the hair typing system seems so important ....so much that people get heated over it is because of 2 things: Looser textures are still celebrated...especially for people who are over 40 like me. When I was little, people threw the "good hair" and "bad hair" labels around alot and I personally experienced being ignored when my cousins with long wavy hair and type 3 loose curls were around. I was ordinary and they were beautiful according to some. It's crazy and hilarious now because one of my cousins is my twin except for hair texture, yet I was not the cute one. I never knew my coils were beautiful until I was grown and I still struggle. I see "curl definition" as important because of the self loathing I didn't even know I carried . I still struggle with going back and forth between natural hair and texturized/texlaxed hair because of this. I am even guilty of letting people think my texlaxed hair is my natural texture because of self loathing. I am a work in progress girl. Young people like you have taught me in recent years how beautiful natural hair can be. We owe it to ourselves to keep educating ourselves to finally let go of this side effect of white supremacy. The other reason why people get so hyped up over the typing is that those who feel they are 4C feel underrepresented just as you said. So when they see someone saying they are 4C and they spot a "curl" instead of a "zip zag" or whatever, they go in for the kill.

@TriggaTreDay

3 жыл бұрын

You hit the nail right on the head when it comes to pointing out the obsess some black people are not willing to admit to when it comes to loose curls. I personally don’t understand it and find it to be quit disgusting, because of the pain and oppression that lives on the other side of that lust. And it personally pisses me off when people say that I have “good hair” or “you got that good shit”. 😡😤. I have to constantly do a whole lot of correcting in my family, because those mofos are so ignorant 🙄.

@LoveAndSnapple

Жыл бұрын

This is really it right here. There’s a lot of willful ignorance and as I read the comments it’s like…come on…y’all know why….

The hair typing system really doesn’t matter in the health. she’s right. just porosity and density.

I agreed with everything you said other than, "The world won't accept out hair until we do." I don't think we should ever expect to accept our hair. As long as we love it and accept it, then the world can kick rocks

Biggest scams: Protective styles: Are people aware how much the wig and hair market is worth in the US? It is in alot of people's interests, often not black, for you to keep on buying other people's hair, which is nothing like your own.Some people have been convinced that they need to put away their hair because it is so fragile... I have travelled the world. Ive never met anybody who will glue or sew artificial hair, hair that doesn't look anything like their own. In extreme temps, people wear a scarf or a hat. If you are lazy, you like the style, or going on holiday, fine! But protective styles are the biggest cause of hair damage! Natural black hair is more often curly and coily. I understand the history.But wearing straight Eur:opean hair has taught people that was your real hair, now you wondering why there is a backlash? Most people and companies really don't care! Its very important that now we have the information, that we stop relaxing childrens hair at the age of 3!There really is no excuse unless their Guardians are lazy! What is this gushing over a silk press? That is not the consistency of black hair!!! Other black people around the world think you're crazy! Some black Americans like to think that they are the originators and gatekeepers of natural black hair and the natural black community. Most black people around the world have always been natural. Just remember when you want to shout cultural appropiation where the use of rice water,castor oil, fenugreek and other Ayurvedic substances come from. Im just asking you to stop and think. Why do alot of white men prefer black natural hair on women than alot of black men? We need to take some responsibility and take back....including the money made from our hair!!!

@clarissagold1090

3 жыл бұрын

Your point is valid but as someone who used wigs to grow out my hair,I don't think everyone uses it as a scam,but I can only speak for myself because I encourage people who ask me how I protect my hair to wear wigs often...good point though

@maryapatterson

3 жыл бұрын

@@clarissagold1090 zThe scam is not you but it is the industry, telling you that your hair needs protecting. Black people across history across the world have never needed their hair protecting until the last 30 years ago allegedly. What do the aborigines

@maryapatterson

3 жыл бұрын

In Australia do? Nothing. The people in the tropics? Nothing. If its scorcher a light scarf , hat or umbrella. That's the scam. Its a marketing scam because they are beginning to realise that black people are beginning to take care of their own hair, so the use of wigs and sew ins is beginning to shrink.The wig and hair market is worth billions, they are not going to give up without a fight!So they have read somewhere that our hair is a little more fragile and has run with it! These people are not telling you to protect your hair because they care about you and your hair, its because its makes them money and lots of it!!! Most of the time its not black people profiting from it!! At the end of the day, you are free to do what you want and I will never judge you since I dont know you or your background, history etc. But it is wrong that poor people grow their hair so that they can go to school. It is wrong that Chinese Muslim women are in concentration camps right now forcibly having their long hair cut to serve the overseas market. That is sick!!! Where are peoples morals? And no I dont care what white people are doing! We are a beautiful people with beautiful hair. 🤩 But ive noticed with some people this urgency to form a club. Light skin, dark skin,curly hair, wavy hair, Z hair,4c,H8🤣🤣🤣Then we can spend endless hours into the night comparing and contrasting, blaming and complaining. Right now some black women are making living from our hair! And about flipping time to! Not enough mind. But the fact that you can start off from your kitchen into a successful business is brilliant in my humble opinion. 👏👏👏

@setapartaay925

3 жыл бұрын

Doreen Patterson teach sis!! I do understand some people prefer wigs and that’s ok too, it’s just not for me. I’m into protective styling but I use my own hair and it is THRIVING!! Unlike most naturals, I truly don’t care about the length of my hair..... I prefer shorter hair anyway, the ONLY reason why I’m not cutting my hair is because of my spirituality. So, I don’t mind doing PS without any added hair.

@DefineMorena

3 жыл бұрын

This is very much correct

What's weird is women arguing with other women about their hair. I mean🤢

@kaliahrosekisses675

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr I said grease and my homemade Shea butter work for me and a group of women was like no it dosent work for me it’s full of sulfates and heavy on your hair and I’m like chill it’s my hair not yours get up off me

@GlacieraBr1de

2 жыл бұрын

Women love to argue with others. Especially other women.

@tammeracalisha5575

2 жыл бұрын

💯💯💯

Girl I'm old enough to be your mother but you've taught me a lot😘 keep preaching the truth❤❤❤

@NaturalAcademia

3 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate you for your support 🥺❤️

@lavondadebrito1178

3 жыл бұрын

Same here!

"A gift left by yall ancestors" 😂😂😂Fr tho

“Y’all be acting like the hair typing system was a gift left by your ancestors”...😂😂😂 SOOO TRUE!!

“If the bottle looks nice, people are gonna buy it” This used to me😭😭 I’m at the point where aloe Vera juice and sulfur 8 are my holy grails!! I’m just trying to find a good moisturizer for this type 4 hair😩

@setapartaay925

3 жыл бұрын

Kiwi Love sis you should try As I am double butter. LOVE IT!!! I use that, olive oil, and aloe and my hair is thriving👏🏾

@kiwilove

3 жыл бұрын

Ronquavias Banks Thanks, love. I’ll definitely try it out💞

@setapartaay925

3 жыл бұрын

Kiwi Love you’re welcome!! I’m telling you sis, it’s AMAZING 💯

@naturallyawesomefitness1738

3 жыл бұрын

I have type wd40 hair that’s dry, thick, and Bronner Bros grease worked a miracle on it, lol. 💃🏽🎉

@LinzeyLiNO

3 жыл бұрын

Ronquavias Banks I agree that butter is bomb for moisture!

My hair is 4c and my cousin has 3b hair. Every time we see each other she tells me how much she wishes her hair was like mine. If you don’t have “that” texture you don’t know what it’s like to have it. Too many people think they know everything there is to know about other people’s hair. That aspect of the “community” has always annoyed me. This idea that wavy, curly or even straight hair doesn’t count as natural, although it literally grows out of the scalp that way, is ignorant and backwards. The jealousy is unhealthy. I believe once we all accept our own hair the way it grows out of our scalp, many problems within the “community” would be resolved.

@NaturalAcademia

3 жыл бұрын

I AGREEEE

@jessesotheysay

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah and tbh I used to think I had straight hair before I realized I have waves

@DawnofA

3 жыл бұрын

I agree I have 4b/c and my coworker has curly hair and I covet the shine and she covers the way my hair holds styles. I can always find beauty in our natural hair.

@lemoncat9213

3 жыл бұрын

The reason we say "natural hair community" to refer to Black people is because we differentiate between chemically processed hair and natural hair in the Black community. White people and other races do not do that with each other. They don't have to. They generally wear their own hair or hair texture (yes they wear wigs and extensions too we know). A White person saying "my natural hair" would sound weird. They just say "my hair".

@daisiesandpandas1218

2 жыл бұрын

@lemon cat To be honest we should have used a word that wasn't so generic.

I definitely agree that natural hair YT celebrities are false advertising. Most of them follow simple routines for themselves, but continue to pitch all these products for ppl to buy into even starting their own companies and pressuring their audience to buy it

I absolutely LOVEEEE your content!! My mother would shame my natural hair throughout my childhood, and would put relaxers in it til the point she decided to cut it all off when I was 12. I've been struggling on learning about my hair and accepting my texture (very similar to yours) up until this year. Your videos have helped me to be able to understand to just leave my hair alone in twists/braids with minimal product and my hair been flourishing ever since!! Thank you for all of your honesty and please keep making videos!! 😊😊

@NaturalAcademia

3 жыл бұрын

Awe, I’m glad that you enjoy my content. I really appreciate you for your support ❤️

I don't like the way that they make it seem that we need magical hair products and hair treatments to make our hair grow. Just like Chrissie (a KZreadr) said black women rather believe in some fake product that will grow their hair 10 inches over night then in a realistic routine and length retention! Also I don't like when people try to act like know what's best for you, everybody's hair is different just because somethings don't work for you doesn't mean that they don't work for other people.

welcome to marketing 101. this is absolutely a problem in the natural hair community 100% but this is how most industries operate. they sell shitty cheap products and advertise them as the best because that's...how they make money.

@NaturalAcademia

3 жыл бұрын

It’s a shame smh

@sevenlegitshrimp

3 жыл бұрын

chichi :o

I agree with everything you said! I used to buy so many different products and thought I needed all that to grow my hair. Now I just make my own and use Ayurvedic remedies, which I find to be much better for my hair.

I hate it too which is why I stopped being so obsessed with whatever they say do and dont do because alot of things I used to follow, never really worked for me

100%! I had a cabinet full of oils, leave in conditioners, jellys, etc. I had barely any growth and everyone kept making it my fault telling me to go to the doctors 🙄. The day I put a FACE MASK in my hair and was considering putting gross "rice water" in, i gave up. I went back to my "whatever is in the cabinet" shampoo and conditioner, Blue magic (YES BLUE MAGIC) on my scalp, and Sta.Soft.fro spray that I used as a kid. I braid it up and wear a wrap or rock my fro. My hair grew like crazy. That works for me!

@myacct8304

Жыл бұрын

@Trinity M idk sis, when I started using Blue Magic and braiding my hair up three years ago, it started growing too 😅

@4knewt505

Жыл бұрын

I came here for the blue magic comments. There's truth to it! I remember the little girls at my church when I was little that I called the grease and water babies. Nothing else. Hair was thick and healthy until they introduced perms

Receipts!!! I watched Andre on Oprah when he shared that hair typing system. I even bought the book. I literally just gave that book away this year. Folks focus on what they don’t have and hate what is on their head. Almost everyone who is frustrated with their hair growth do too much. Too much manipulation, too much heat, too much gel, to much product. I used to pay someone to conrow my daughter’s hair when she was little. I used to blow dry it so the hair dresser could have an “easier “ time. I had to give my daughter Tylenol so she could sleep after the tight tension. I noticed that her hair was thinning around the edges. My daughter begged me to stop putting her hair in cornrows. I did a simple two strand twist and left her hair alone. Her hair grew all the way back and then some. Leave your hair alone.

I would also add that if people with type 4 hair find their hair unmanageable because they are trying to accomplish looks worn by those with looser textures, it's not just that their hair "can't do" those things; the products and techniques were never designed to work the same on their hair in the first place. Not to mention the multitude of factors that go in to how hair will respond to products and manipulation.

I love your sit down videos, your honesty is so refreshing. You are so young but so wise.

@NaturalAcademia

3 жыл бұрын

Awe thank you lol I really appreciate you for your support ❤️

I felt that hostility part, I have to learn to love my hair💗. I drew the line when they said that grease is terrible, I was like nope🏌🏽‍♀️.

Girl I’m no professional but I love learning about my hair. I don’t buy all of those products cause I’m afraid that it won’t work on my hair. I stick to what works ! Most people that are natural are going back to relaxed cause Th e natural hair community are so demanding and rude! They want you to spend all of your money on brands that come in an 8oz bottle for $20. I rather buy things on a budget and they work! They use gel and hate grease but doesn’t gel cause a lot of buildup? I love my grease it’s what works!

Personally as a 4c hair individual it is important that i see 4c representation, yes i agree with you it shouldn't matter when it comes to taking care of your natural hair. but it does when you want to style your hair. My sister wanted to do this style and expected it to come out like the girl in the video and it didn't she was disappointed (fyi the girl had looser texture)

I love natural hair youtubers like you, very honest and speaking on the bs the natural community does. I've been natural all my life but I started actually taking of it by myself when I was 14, I'll admit it, when I started watching youtube vids about natural hair, I thought whatever I saw is what you're supposed to do and I wasted so much time and money doing things I didn't need to do and just manipulating my hair way too much. I'm 19 now, and my routine is so simple now and I use products that work for my hair and keep using them. My hair use to touch the upper cheek and now its passing my chin and it's the healthiest it's ever been in my life.

Girl!!!!! I am loving this type of content....talk di tings dem,because i'm loving it and as a new natural i'm happy to come across someone who shares how i feel.

@NaturalAcademia

3 жыл бұрын

Awee, 🥺❤️ I’m happy you enjoy my content

No matter how many products I try (I’ve tried a lot) I ALWAYS go back to my OGs. WATER, sheamoisture curl enhancing smoothie, olive oil and eco styling gel. That’s all I use now. If I feel fancy I’ll use Wild growth oil or Jamaican black castor oil on my scalp.

@NaturalAcademia

3 жыл бұрын

Girl keep doing you because all of these products that these naturals are using is simply an advertisement

@obiajulumgbechi

3 жыл бұрын

What’s you’re porosity?

@April-dk9ui

3 жыл бұрын

Bee I have low porosity hair

@vibes8924

3 жыл бұрын

Remember when they said eco causes cancer? 😐

@moonliqx2211

3 жыл бұрын

@@April-dk9ui isnt JBCO bad for low porosity on the scalp?

Honestly I stopped watching a lot of natural hair KZreadrs. It’s always about products and selling something. Plus I never had this many hair and scalp issues UNTIL I started trying to be “natural.” I started going back to what my granny use to do because at least back then my scalp was healthy.

The people that don't like this video are the ones that got scammed or you telling them something they don't want to hear (in occult). This video is straight TRUTH! :)

You speaking the truth💯💯💯💯 Yooh I used to think that I needed a lot of hair products but those things were expensive. I recently switched to just having the most important products and its cheaper💃💃

The young lady who posted the very first natural hair video in 2006 is no where on the natural hair youtube scene anymore because of the hateful comments she received. In some cases her life was even threatend. She shared so much helpful information, from the history of our hair, including the original styles worn by our ancestors, ingredients that were harmful and damaging to our hair and scalp and so much more. Were it not for her we may not have the ability to care for our hair as much as we do now. The hate that comes from our own is sad and shows a real 'crabs in a barrel' mentality. If you don't agree with the content of another person, simply move on, but don't bash others because what works for them may not work for you. Or KINDLY offer your view point without being hostile and hateful about it. Sadly the ingredients for making truly natural products is very expensive. But with patience and research you can make your own.

@Jaleabia

3 жыл бұрын

Do u know her channel name?

9:15 yes...i just started my hair journey and opened up a social media account because of it and the comments I got were awful. Some people ask me how I grew my hair out and how I do it, so ofc I post a video about it and I get comments like “she’s mixed don’t listen to her” “nothing helped her hair grow, she has type 3 hair.” “You have an easier hair texture, the natural hair movement isn’t for you” I was so happy to share my journey and people really didn’t like it lol it made me really take a step back from the community.

@brittneydavis7846

3 жыл бұрын

Dont listen to them and dont stop teaching. There is someone out there similiar or different to/than you that could use your knowledge.

@clarissagold1090

3 жыл бұрын

@ nothingg ,I don't think you should let others dictate your life,continue uploading you could help someone.that's how I started my channel too because I get too many questions every time I wear my hair out which is not so often

@sassyqueen9739

3 жыл бұрын

If u have 3c then it might work for type 4 ppl

@nikkis.9747

Жыл бұрын

The hate for type 3 curlies is out of control. The comments can get really ugly. I went natural back in 2007 before KZread and before we had so many options for natural hair products. It's been 15 years since I cut off my relaxer and now here recently, I'm being told that the natural hair movement wasn't for me because I don't have 4c hair. That's news to me because I really thought I was a part of something really special 😅.

I totally agree. I tell people all the time your hair grows unless you have an underlying medical condition that affects your hair. What the focus should be on is length retention. Trying to keep that length..just my little opinion.

I've been natural for over 40 years and parents left it up to me if I wanted to straighten. I also shave my hair off whenever I feel like. I share her frustration with the "natural hair " community bc ppl are obsessed with making hair look naturally curly rather than celebrating the real natural texture. Preach little sister!

It’s so sad how critical we are of each other smh

@maryapatterson

3 жыл бұрын

It is because nobody has a choice how light their skin is or how curly their is. So bullying people for that is ridiculous! Self acceptance is key.

Maximum hydration method, Rice Water, Chebe powder, Chebe tea. What is next? 🤔Chebe vitamins? 😭😂. All of these will come and go.

@KamoreeLove

3 жыл бұрын

No next is the paint remedy 😊 it’s when you put paint on your ends to hydrate them 😂😂😂😂 I’m jk the shit is ridiculous

@prettyaura4931

3 жыл бұрын

literally 😭

@niquefarrington5940

3 жыл бұрын

Lol I agree what is next black tea, this tea, that tea

@deannalove9073

3 жыл бұрын

Don't forget the 👉🏽 Mayo

@niquefarrington5940

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

I really like this girl.

Natural hair videos made me obsessed with my hair. I wish I could go back to the time I would keep a hairstyle for months and I don't care.

Hello girl facts!!! I cannot stand when anyone and I mean anyone tries to tell me what I need to do or how I should wear hair that grows out of my scalp as if it is their own. I swear it doesn't matter if your relaxed, pressed, or natural. Somebody always gotta make a comment on what doesnt grow out of their scalp. I try to not let it get to me but I be like girl it's my hair on my head. Mind your business and grow yours or don't just leave me alone. Alot of women that choose to just wear their hair don't do it for attention. We just want to wear our hair, keep it healthy, and mind our business.

You have truly given a master class up in here this evenin'!! The hair typing chart is a form of bondage because it has done more harm than good. If you're Type 4, and I am, you know it. This is the key: embrace yourself and your hair with all it's kinks and coils with pride. I get tired of hearing "my curls are poppin" because you just put a pound of gel on your hair and your hair might be dry some time in the next 36 hours. Totally not worth the time and energy. I first went natural in 2009. Since that time I've gone back into a relaxer four times. In March 2019 I said "That's it. No more chemicals. I'm embracing what's coming out of my scalp and I will be natural for life." The reason why I kept going back and forth for a decade is because I wouldn't find out what my hair liked as far as a regimen and stick with it. No. I was too busy mixing up potions with herbs and berries that somebody I was subbed to said would make my hair ankle length in no time, which is a lie, irrational, and a bunch of foolishness. So of course I was miserable and would give up. There is no magic potion except patience, realistic goals, lots of TLC, and remember that low manipulation = length retention. And ladies, wash day should never become wash weekend. People need to get off the bandwagon to product junkieland, build a regimen that is simple but effective, and enjoy their hair journey 💜

I personally like the hair type system. The general "type 1,2,3,4" is too broad for someone to find content on hair similar to theirs. The sub categories "a,b,c" help people like me find people who have hair that look close to exactly like mine. It's great for learning the behavior of your specific pattern and what to and not to expect. Type 4a hair wash and gos come out waaaay different than type 4c hair. Though its in the same category, the extra specifications of the chart help people filter out what content will effectively apply to them as well as recieving realistic results and diluting their high expectations according to where they fall on the hair chart.

My question is why the obsession with laying baby hairs? The obsession is pure racism and the need to emulate the first world dominant characters.

@DM92919

3 жыл бұрын

ElegantPaws01 to be clear, I’m African American and was born with baby hairs and still have them, don’t need to”lay” them. Not everyone Is obsessed with that.there are many beauties out there without it...

@jullianajimenez8981

3 жыл бұрын

i let my edges breathe

@lotaerinne

3 жыл бұрын

it's soooo annoying like why can i not just have ""nappy"" edges? why do i have to smother them in gel or whatever and plaster them down to my skull?

@AP-kf3xs

3 жыл бұрын

I LOVE to lay my baby hairs! Been doing it since the 7th grade and it looks so pretty

@lisaeleanor8559

3 жыл бұрын

Then it's laid all of way down to their dam*face .. why why why

You are so real and blunt. I love it. We need MORE OF THAT❤

I actually have multiple of curl patterns in my head....as so with alot of people. So I never based my hair choices on that system because I refuse to go that length. Yet my hair has still flourished...even without being mindful of my hair's density and not being aware of it's porosity. A big part of me would like to contribute a small percentage to watching women and even men who has obviously different hair textures than my own. I figured I can learn something(negative or/and positive) from anyone and apply it to my own journey.

I think you may be approaching this from just as judgmental a position as the folks you’re critiquing. Specifically, I’m referring to your discussion about “why are y’all touching your hair so much and tryna make your hair do xyz.” You’re so fortunate to have never had chemical in your hair. Most of us don’t share that experience. We go straight from relaxed, in a world that’s still hostile to black hair (and black people) and maybe we want to ease in. Maybe we don’t want to go from Stacey Dash to Angela Davis in one day. Maybe we still want hang time bc that’s how we feel pretty. I really think that’s okay. I agree with you 100% that some of us are chasing a dream. But at the end of the day we’re all just black folks tryna feel comfortable in our skin. Just a thought. (I agree with you on alll the rest!)

@kiamckenz

3 жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure she wasn’t referring to whether it’s relaxed or not just hair manipulation in general (styling too much, too much product, etc)

@Syd0329

3 жыл бұрын

I kind of agree. Everyones journey is different. What works for some may not work for others. Whether that’s stretching your hair or leaving it in it’s natural state. You don’t know peoples hair or state of mind so you just can’t assume ya know. But at the same time I agree with a lot of the other things she said. Especially with the top gurus and products. Or the bullying.

@chloefurze-russell4744

Жыл бұрын

Omg yes...many truths in what she said but the approach seemed just as judgemental to me! Everbody's journey is different. Some people have to go through all of that to learn what's best for their hair.

When I moved to locs, one of the most freeing things was giving away the natural hair products that I had. I wasn’t too deep in the product junkie state, but I definitely had a lil collection going. When you’re just wanting to do the best for your hair, it’s so easy to get confused with all the “advice” until you realize that porosity and density answer SO many of the questions. Even with locs it’s annoying to constantly hear so many “do’s & don’ts”. I just have to do me. The issues in the natural hair community are based in a lot of internalized issues of self-hatred and denial. You are right in how we can’t expect outward acceptance when we can’t even accept that we all don’t have loose curls. You have folks watching tutorials on looser textures getting frustrated cuz that’s not how their hair is...girl...be honest with that mirror.

I’ve watched till the end and girl I almost cried because I felt the pain in your voice. I just love how you’re so real❤️❤️

watching you has also helped with understanding my hair. During the quarantine I've just been washing my hair and putting it into twists so hopefully it will grow overtime

I agree with you. I recently stopped watching videos with 4C in the title because it is a scam. There are so many other factors that contribute to hair. It is a personal journey. People who say natural hair is too difficult are making it difficult.

Bless the passion and courage to call out those who demean others much love from the UK!!

Sis, I hear you👏🏾💯!! I love how honest you are and you are really making sense! Cause it’s true

This video made me realize there is still room for accaptence when it comes to my hair, I'll try to embrace my frizz more. Thank you and keep up the good work 😊

“Simplicity is always best”!!! I literally wash my hair like once a month. I moisturize and then leave it be in a simple style until next time. And my hair has grown immensely and I don’t even know a lot about hair care. Yet it seems folks in the natural hair community always like “no, use this, don’t do that” blah blah blah

Best video ive seen all day 😂❤ personally ive been hooked up in that for a minute or two then i realised it was doing too much. Honestly its made to think for you, to make your life "easier" to let you sit there and be controlled ..when i found that out and literally stopped putting my hands in my hair so often and stopped using all the "right" products to try to get the good and defined braid outs and twist outs and bantu knot outs (which never worked out btw) i actually started seeing results .. and its better for your pocket too guys.. consider it.. awesome video your vyb makes me laugh love it❤

FINALLY THE PURE AND NATURAL TRUTH OF IT ALL💝 I CANT WAIT TONSEE MORE OF YOUR CONTENT AS I AM NEEDING SUPPORT ON LEARNING TO LOVE AND STYLE MY NATURAL HAIR..ITS BEEN HARD BECAUSE OF SUCH CRITICISM AND JUDGMENT SINCE INWAS A LITTLE GIRL,WE NEED YOU SIS,THANKYOU

First, you the most realest on YT rn like for real! Your channel is what the natural hair videos used to be. I think somehow along the way, say circa 2013? The natural hair community on YT completely changed. What it was originally about just went under, especially with the way the platform of YT was changing from the old to the new, what we have now. It wasn’t about just creating anymore, it became all glitz and glamour and don’t get me wrong, get ur coin! Buttt it sucks that the authenticity and rawness kinda faded away. Also, the face of the natural hair movement on YT changed from girls with fros, and kinky hair, to just naturals with either a) long natural hair, b) type 3 hair and above. It’s really exhausting and it’s almost like we moved backward? And then, there’s no unity, so many naturals think it’s only 1 way to be natural and everything else is wrong. Not to mention, we as a people have not embraced type 4, KINKY hair. There is still SO much work to be done, and so much unlearning to do. We damn near need a movement part 2: like to some back to our roots type shit. I’m talking classes, research the whole nine on COILS AND KINKS! Cause I believe a lot of people don’t understand their type 4 hair truly. Then, hairstylist(our own people) still wanna make it seem like type 4 hair is difficult and unmanageable. So much to unpack, it makes me sad and feels defeated at times no matter how many videos I watch. I hope in the future we as a people we can come to a point to fully accept our natural hair for what it is fully.

Dear Natural hair community (CULT), leave me and my water, Aloe Vera juice oil and cream alone. Let me be simplistic and realistic about 4c hair. Laid edges? Who cares? Defined curls? Who cares? My 4c hair is pretty and goregous! Ya’ll hair Nazis will be wondering how my hair is so long and I’ll swaying it in your face because I’m simple and you’re not. Don’t tell me not to be me! 😡

@Gabby-fk9is

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly 💯...Shampoo deep conditioner and grease...the rest out the window. I can't believe I was a product junkie for 2yrs.

@queenme7401

3 жыл бұрын

Damn. I didn't know it was like this in them natural streets. But I don't pay much attention to much anyway. 😏😂😂😂

Bravo!!!! All I have to say is THANK YOU because good lord it’s is ridiculous. I absolutely love your videos and am so glad someone sees what I see!! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

@NaturalAcademia

3 жыл бұрын

Awww 🥺❤️❤️

So true. Thank you for speaking out and sharing. You are fierce!

Well said!! Thank you for your realness and strength. Continue to be strong because I appreciate your content. Speak truth!

I do agree in the grand scheme of things curl pattern doesn't matter when it comes to hair growth and length retention as much as porosity, coarseness, and density. However, I still believe curl patterns play a role when it comes to detangling and styling because obviously if you have 3c hair, your hair isn't going to be as hard to detangle as someone with 4c hair because the diameter of their coils is smaller, leading to a higher chance of single strand knots and matting. Btw this is coming from someone who has a curl pattern range of 3b-4b. And for styling, someone who has a looser curl pattern is going to be able to manipulate their hair less compared to someone with a tighter curl pattern. For example, person A and person B are both doing twist outs with person A having about 8 in of hair and a 4b curl pattern and person B having 8 in as well with a 3b curl pattern. The person with 4b hair is going to have to stretch their hair more and manipulate it more to get the proper volume and elongation.

@queenholland1227

3 жыл бұрын

I also agree with what you said about people with type 4 hair downplaying the experiences of people with type 3 hair because, in reality, your density, length, and coarseness play a large role in the manageability of your hair. For example someone with short low density 4c hair is going to be finished doing their hair much faster than someone who has long high density 3a hair because they have less hair strands on their hair to work with.

Preach siiis, preach🙌 They're just scammers and I hate hate when they advertise fast hair growth products... As always, love ur video❤😘

Yes!! I’m watching this a year later and everything you said here is and still holds true!! Thanks for this honest and heartfelt message. I’ve just recently started my natural hair care journey and you and 2 other YT’ers and my inspiration!! You are honest and definitely helpful 🥰

Great content and delivery 👏 Keep standing up for what you believe!!

I reeeaaallly agree with your comment about the definition thing. I never understood it or never saw the appeal to it personally. Why must I try to constantly change my natural curl pattern with some substances that don't even do my hair good and causes it to be brittle and hard? And some people really do that EVERYDAY or whenever they where their hair out. I think it stems from them not liking their natural hair texture like you said. And preferring the looser, curlier texture. But great video ! Really loved this one.✨

I will admit I fell into the hair type trap. I went back to doing my hair like my grandma did when I was a kid. Wash, leave-in, grease and braid it up. I do my hair about every 2weeks. Scarves and wigs are the move for me right now.

I just want to thank you for your channel. Thank you for introducing me to the palmers olive oil pomade. Thank you for teaching me how to properly grow my hair with out spending my money on unnecessary products. May God continue to bless you!

Thank you so much for shining your light! ☀️💛

I also would love to see long 4C hair represented more! Multiple lengths for all of the different hair textures 🙏🏾 I’ve seen firsthand that this makes people believe that natural hair doesn’t grow smh lol

@DefineMorena

3 жыл бұрын

But when it's represented, people will say "you only like natural hair when it's long."

@sonaturallygwen

3 жыл бұрын

Grace Osas Lol yeah good point!

@djenabou_

3 жыл бұрын

@@DefineMorena That’s so true

@cutestnaturalista9219

3 жыл бұрын

@@DefineMorena Sometimes it's best to not worry about what other people will say. Some of the long 4C hair youtubers I watch include: WestAfricanBaby, NaturallyHigh, NoMoreLyes2012, AllThingsGhoCee, Roothie (although she has cut her hair now) & more.

@DefineMorena

3 жыл бұрын

@@cutestnaturalista9219 Oh don't worry, I don't care about what they say to that extent, but it does get annoying because I think I see that phrase on Twitter every month. Most of the natural hair KZreadrs that I follow have long hair 👍🏾

Honestly, I think these “why I hate the natural hair community” videos are very toxic. I’ve learned a lot from KZreadrs like Naptural85, Green Beauty and others. I like the variety of products and I don’t think they’re expensive. Salon quality products cost so much more yet I never see anyone complaining about the price of Aveda or Kerastase. Also, we don’t all have the same hair type. Some of us have hair that is defined naturally, as long as it’s moisturized and find wash n go’s the be the simplest and best hairstyle for us. We don’t all wash our hair infrequently and keep it in protective styles all the time. The beauty of us as a people and us as individuals is that we are very diverse and have many options. Do what works for you and keep it moving. We, as Black women have come a long way with our hair. Let’s celebrate the positive. All of this complaining and negativity is just counterproductive and ridiculous.

@skyeraklyion281

3 жыл бұрын

Someone had to say

@soniairak80

3 жыл бұрын

Thank u! @honeyfaced1, I ve learned a lot from the natural hair community like @nappyfu who does a lot of dyi’s so its not that expensive. I dont like the negativity at all

@briannaarrington3435

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, Green Beauty helped me so much 💚 had to go through 5 years of trial and error before I found her. I'm so grateful I didn't give up seeking knowledge.

@nala8179

3 жыл бұрын

I agree completely.

@MaiaBrown

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree with you. 🧡

I truly appreciated your content. I agree with you. I'm new to the natural hair community and to be quite honest it was so overwhelming. I watched a lot of content and at the end of the day I did my own research and found simplicity is best. I learned two important things my hair porosity which I had no knowledge of and my texture. The curl pattern I didn't care about at all and I simplified what I use in my hair along with simple washing and basic hairstyles. No frills and infrequent combing works best. You're right about the so called growing your hair fast. I cringed each time I heard that one among other things. I just wanted to let you know that the hair community needs more sisters like you. Many blessings to you ❤️

your youtube name is amazing, im speechless, and thank you for the confidence.

Water, blue magic grease, and blue magic leave in conditioner and I’m good. My hair is finally flourishing 🙌🏾

I get what your saying. All these products and methods introduced is just too much. I remember as a child my mother did none of these things and my sisters and my hair was healthy. I am over with the whole natural community. Back to basic for me.

everything you said is so true. to have someone comment negatively on my natural “4c” hair and compare it to women with “good hair” really made a impact on some of my insecurities til this day. but im slowly learning to love myself in my natural state more & more everyday. we def need more ppl in the hair community like you💜

Thanks for posting this video sis... It's important that "we" need to love and accept not only ourselves but yes, our kinky coily hair. I recently (just in the past couple of months) began to acknowledge that the "natural hair community" is a shame and not genuine. I'll admit, I am a natural hair product junkie, and I was in my local drug store about to purchase the "so called" newest deep conditioner and I had to stop myself. I was literally standing with the product in my hand asking myself "why the hell am I buying this?" when I couldn't answer confidently I put the product back on the shelf and walked away. This is real talk, and its hard but it's talk we need to have... I was watching videos of ladies who's hair texture wasn't like mine and I hate to say it, I was wishing subconsciously for curls like theirs. It took me sometime to accept my curls and love myself and my hair. You video is coming at the right time...

Thank you for addressing the product junkies. I got really confused with all hair custard, hair creams, hair smoothies, hair gels etc.

You spoke nothing but the truth. Loved it 👏🏾

PREACH this video was long coming and I am all for it what u said was pure fact number one thank you for bringing this up cause it needed to be said now all we need is a storytime 🤞thank you for posting and can't wait for next update 😆

First of all, congratulations for being frank, honest, and corrective. I was in this community from the beginning. It was tiny. I supported the best content makers and they are "the leaders." However, you describe a cult 😂. That IS NOT what I want to see. You are correct that no one should be stuck on hair typing, perfect products, miracle and "new" growth techniques for quick results. You need no advocate but trust me I am glad you advocated for women who are abused, mean, hurt, lurking, trolling, and just being assholes. You young people are my favorite. Please remain humble and bright. May your future be filled with success and happiness. Thanks for filling me in. ❤ ya!