Growing up I wanted to be a animator so bad, but after seeing so many stories of bad experiences and unemployment from people in the industry ..I decided to stay in my stable job, start a social media acc and just make my art without the pressure of having to paying the bills,

@wudly9195

15 күн бұрын

That makes a lot of sense . For some it’s a lot more freeing to have stable income so you can do art for fun without the pressure of paying bills

@JourneytoSustainableLiving

14 күн бұрын

I hope you see success in your journey! I'm also in the middle of a social media journey and I'm now trying to get myself out there by trying to communicate little things about sustainability and ways we can become more climate change resilient, so I'll be showing you support from this end!

@user-td2lg1fl6h

13 күн бұрын

Watch the miyazaki documentary and how bitter and jaded he comes across. It’s a life not meant for everyone and not everyone who try can be successful and the ones that do end up like miyazaki. It’s not all sunshine and roses.

@noel_curray

7 күн бұрын

i'm currently a digital character animator and you'v made the right decision.

@MrRossT1

21 сағат бұрын

Best way to go! "ORder of the Stick" the author worked at WalMart while drawing when he got home! :) Made over 1 million on KickStarter. :)

It’s ok! I too gave up on a creative career and work in a stable, safe finance job and draw and paint for myself after hours. The thing is - you don’t need to monetise your hobby. The whole thing ‘find something you love and you will never work a day in your life’ is a lie. You will always work unless you’re independently wealthy. So I work in something less exasperating. Something that gives me an ample income, and the joy I have when I can draw and paint with absolutely zero thought on how to monetise it is, well, priceless.

@Magsupyourmind

22 күн бұрын

I agry! I think the biggest lie is that you have to choose. I think there is place to do more things or change focus every few years (or months, or weeks, or hours).

@ainekearney2878

12 күн бұрын

Same.. I do art as a hobby while working my safe job

I quit my freelance job as illustrator/designer for the same reason. And now clients use AI for their images and copywriting. I work for a financial company, not that funny, but I don’t have to worry anymore about income and chasing clients. I miss my creative work, but I still can do it in the weekends. Feeling liberated.

@vocartagmailcom

16 күн бұрын

I don't want to worry you, but finances are where AI will dominate the same or more like it was in graphic design.

@reuterss306

Күн бұрын

Try to be happy that you recognized this in time. I went on too long and completely lost the fun...almost my whole life I drew like a maniac and now it's like a part of me has died. Sounds very theatrical, but that's how it really feels sometimes. :D If you draw out of passion and then it turns into a career...that would be the ideal case. But when you start taking on jobs that you don't feel like doing, when it becomes a daily routine and nothing about the work inspires you anymore...that's the beginning of the end.

61 yrs old. Studied commercial art in trade school, several years later went to community college to study fine art with the intention of teaching, ive commercially made paid art before the computer age and after. Eventually i arrived at the point you did, ive made hand lettered, and vinal signs, airbrushed, practiced calligraphy, oil painted, charcoal, pencil , ink...every avenue of mediums thinking the next would unlock the door. Still, same results. Its my general opinion, its a bad time to be an artist. The trade has been devalued bc of the availability of affordable materials and the number of people practicing, vrs the demand. Keep your head up. Best wishes

It’s scary to be honest with yourself, and to change your mind. Thank you for sharing your experience!

THIS was so relatable, I started hating what I was creating when all I was doing was commissions and prints and everything I draw has to be somewhat marketable. I got a "normal" job so that the financial stuff would be taken care of and anything else I got from art was just extras and it's such a relief, like I actually want to draw again, I got back into doing art shows too. This quote is so not for everyone "if you do what you love you'll never work a day in your life" I didin't love it anymore, I want to do art to express myself not to focus on selling it.

@Magsupyourmind

16 күн бұрын

Thank you for your story. I'm amazed by how many artist feel the same about this subject. How can we still think having a (side) job is a sign of failure. I'm happy to see so many artist feeling the same way.

@reginaldforthright805

14 күн бұрын

Why not do art that you love and sell that?

@glassofb33r

13 күн бұрын

@@reginaldforthright805 I am, but in my case people ask for commissions way more than getting the originals that are already there. I can't really force someone to just go buy enough stuff that's already made for me to live of:D so a side job gives that comfort of having some income coming in while having the freedom to create whatever without the stress of it not selling

Thank you for this video! I'm in the exact same boat (and also from The Netherlands by the way 😉), and it took me such a long time to accept the fact that my dream job on doing art full-time wasn't a dream job after all. I worked so hard for that dream though.. Eight years of studies, two art degrees, my own creative business with 5 star review, and yet, I was constantly stressed out. Now I've got a job in finance and I feel calmer than ever. I also finally picked up a pencil again, after being unable to for 4+ years. For some reason, it hurts to realize that I'm happier when I'm not working at "my dream job". It just doesn't make any sense to me. But your video really did help. Somehow, seeing others struggle with the same thing, makes the struggle less weird or "wrong", if you know what I mean. 😊 So thanks a bunch for sharing, and let's keep on creating because it can be a joyful thing to do. ❤

@Magsupyourmind

22 күн бұрын

A few months ago, I watched a video where @Slew interviewed Shannon Vaugh. During the conversation, she mentioned something profound: working a job alongside her art to create more space for her artistic pursuits. This statement resonated deeply with me. Given Shannon’s incredible talent and the high demand for her work, it struck me that she chose not to paint full-time by choice. Her decision made me realize that I, too, don't want to paint the whole day (for others). It's a watch tip ;)

Honestly, it's refreshing hearing about how art as a business to sustain yourself wasn't a lifestyle that worked out for your because at the end of the day, running your own business is a 24/7 gig with it's own risks. So not having a day job to sustain the business during it's low periods is definitely rough and takes all the joy out of creativity because it becomes a job that doesn't even makes ends meet, especially when compared to other forms of work. It's 100% okay to try out different paths for yourself and I love how you package your wisdom gained from reflecting on your business ventures. I hope your back pain eases up with time and that art continues to be a source of joy for you in the long run. :)

@Magsupyourmind

22 күн бұрын

That's really cool to hear! Thank you!

Thank you for sharing this! I never made it very far in my attempts to build an "art career" and I realize now that a lot of it was my fear of having to do the things you mentioned, such as with commissions or markets, as well as the fact that I've struggled with art block off and on (mostly on) ever since I started trying to sell it. So it's actually very motivating and inspiring to see how you've "given up" on an art career in order to find joy in art again. It gives me hope that I will find it again, too.

@Magsupyourmind

21 күн бұрын

Thank you! I wish you and everyone the joy of making art! With or without the career ;)

I relate to this so much. Working with people is so stressful.

I love your honesty and admire your bravery to pursue your happiness over money as a creative being!

@Magsupyourmind

23 күн бұрын

Thank you!

I’m not an artist, but you explained yourself so well. I like your analytical mind…you have a gift for explaining things.

@Magsupyourmind

22 күн бұрын

Thank you so much!

I am so glad more and more artists are discovering that it is almost NEVER worth it to sacrifice your passion and creativity for money. I have struggled for some time with the false and very stupid notion of "If you don't make money off your art you're not a *rEaL* artist". The stress and press of making money off my art is *murder* to my creativity. I just can't do it, and I've realized I actually simply don't want to. I am much much better off having a stable job I like, with a stable income. With that, my mind can relax and my creativity flow. My art is amazing anyway, and maybe it gets even better without that financial pressure looming over me.

Your description of how markets and shows are hit pretty hard. It is why I began to interact with those sitting next to me at events that also had downtime. This, and seeing people I never for over 5 years getting out of the home and having fun for the day, became why I went to these things (even though I too was losing money). I enjoy the process of the shows but I know that I cannot support myself with them just yet. Perhaps someday, but for now they are my fun and social outing a few times a year. I'm glad you have learned what does, and doesn't, work for you and I wish you the best.

@Magsupyourmind

3 күн бұрын

I did make nice contacts on markets also! But the gamble of not knowing who is next to you (and if they are willing to be social to) made me prefer having a friend with me. But yes, it can be a very social activity! Thank you! I wish you much succes in the future also!

I can relate to the constant requests from clients for alterations. Ge's really, really tired after a while.

So sorry to hear you didn't like your art career. I think the difficult thing about trying to make art work as a career and where I see a lot of artists go wrong is that we have to pay attention to the business side of it and researching what do customers actually want (specifically with products) and pay attention to trends instead of creating art and hoping it will sell. It's really hard because we don't always want that to dominate what we want to create, but if we want to sell then we have to cater to it to some extent. Or grow a following that is super into our work, which is also challenging. I also really dislike commission work because I don't love how the creative control can be taken away from you and there's pressure for everything to be good. I totally feel you on that. I personally love making illustration my career but I have had to adapt to the parts I don't like as best as I can (bookkeeping, revisions, negotiating), and yes, the financial instability is tough. Good on you for putting this out there, I think it's good for a lot of us to face these realities and also hear that we are not alone going through the tough parts! ❤

@Magsupyourmind

21 күн бұрын

Thank you!

I 100% agree. I'm not the biggest fan of my day-job, but it sets me free to create the art that I want to, rather than the art I'm hoping someone would be willing to buy. Great video. P.S. Please clean your keyboard. Those suckers get really dirty really quick, and need regular cleaning.

@Magsupyourmind

22 күн бұрын

Hahaha, I know! I just noticed how dirty it was when I started editing. But thanks ;)

I went through a phase where I really wanted to pursue an art career, but I eventually decided against it. I still think I made a very good decision. I love being able to create what I want to create without feeling pressured to get more online followers or getting money from it.

This is why I never pursued a career in music for similar reasons ... You can play all the music you don't like for people who don't care. Soul destroying isn't it? when you put your heart and soul into something to find your just throwing pearls before the swine.

Not enough people understand this. In my late twenties I started selling paintings, and a lot of them, in a real gallery and all that. But after a few years I grew tired of just making the same kind of painting. But only these would sell, anytime I tried something different the director of the gallery would give me that stern look: ‘what are you doing, this is a good thing we have here, why change it?’ Art CAN be a job, like any other, unfortunately. And I never wanted my Art to feel like a job. So I, too, quit. I still do personal work but not for money, ever again. And am much happier.

@Magsupyourmind

21 күн бұрын

I can relate! I think a big part of my freedom in art is the change in art. Every time when I think, oeh I really do have my own style, I'm bored with it. That's why I think the whole 'you should find your own style' is b s.

@carlkligerman1981

20 күн бұрын

@@Magsupyourmind yeah, totally understand. I mean even a great painter like Jeremy Mann, for example, churns out variations on the same paintings, over and over again. It turns the work into a commodity, and the artist becomes the supplier of it, nothing more. And so many people aspire to that level of success without understanding how boring and like ANY other job it can become. Few artists get the freedom to explore their creativity boundlessly and get paid to do so. For most of us, if we really want to maintain the joy of making art, doing it part time around an actual job it is a much more realistic lifestyle. I found actually that having LESS time to paint made me use my free time much more effectively and with far greater satisfaction than when I enjoyed the apparent ‘freedom’ to ‘create’ (as though repeating yourself over and over again was creating!) all day long. Best of luck to you, hope your health improves.

Can't say how incredibly valuable this posting of yours is. It should be played to many students while still in high school (when they really are at that fork in the road), much less people who are in it as well as wanting to question being in it for so long. I was in the same boat as you were, and in the end I left it and 'settled' with production art. I take whatever has been signed off by the client and make sure it's good to go (for press/web, in different sizes that meet provided standards). There is no um-ing and aw-ing by the client, wondering if they could see it in three different reds, or would switching the background for something else maybe be better? No. No stress on my part wondering what the client wants. I can't tell you how zen it all is, lol. I'm glad you've found your peace as well (for now).

@Magsupyourmind

14 күн бұрын

That's really kind of you to say. Thank you so much!

Your video was suggested to me by KZread, and I get why :D I know exactly what you mean and why you made this decision. I've been working as a creative since I was 12 years old, went to art school, and have been freelancing full time since 2008. If you're not one of the lucky few (or are teaching online which actually makes artists millions sometimes), it's very hard to make a living with it. Constantly worrying about keeping your head above water is stressful. It has made me sick, actually. So yes, I totally get you. Well done for prioritising your health and sanity :)

Thank you for sharing your struggle and path forward. From reading the comments, I can tell your perspective and insight has helped a lot of people here. Myself included.

@Magsupyourmind

13 күн бұрын

☺️

Thanks for your honesty! I have experienced many of these things as well and it is truly heartbreaking. Everything you said is so true, I felt every word. I'm glad that you were able to retain your love for art.

@Magsupyourmind

2 күн бұрын

I wish you the love for creating too!

I went through my own version of the stuff you've described here with music as a career, which I eventually gave up for another field. All the while, I also had this "art thing" going, but I fiercely protected it from classes, critiques and external pressure by just doing it for FUN. How pursuing it professionally might have turned out had I tried is a great unknown, but it remains a great outlet. btw, hella amazing work on your drawing of Dorothea Lange's "Migrant Mother" photo!!

@Magsupyourmind

22 күн бұрын

Yeah, it's so important to keep it fun! And thank you so much! Glad you recognize it.

I can relate. I couldnt find a steady art job where I live. My main job is working at a printer and after the same frustration with arty side gigs, its just so much better not taking commissions. Commissions tended to really sucked the joy out of art. Not worth it.

This was like a freindly hug. For the last couple of years i felt pressured and unhappy. I worked in medical field. But i was always dreaming to be someone in art field. i chicken out to go to art uni, made my 10 years in medical field and....quit. i feel so good! now i have a job as a one-man band in a startup, i feel challenged while not pressured! :) i have time to make commisions for caricatures and its so fullfiling! :)

@Magsupyourmind

11 күн бұрын

That sounds amazing! Good job!!👏

Well said and presented, been there done that, still working on the last part. Thank you!

i can relate so much , i had lots of problems with feedback from clients, i ended up being dissatisfied with the client wishes, so much so that it would ruin my excitement for the project. You would think i would be happy if the client was happy. I ended up being frustrated.

This sounds like a great success to me, the lessons learned about life and yourself is the true value.

Never quit your job unless you can leave fully from your art career. Money is essential to pay your rent and your bills. Thank you for your honesty and I hope you will find your way thanks to your new job.

Thanks for sharing your journey! I found this video really helpful because I'm figuring out my journey with art. I just started doing vendor markets last year, and I like hearing what other artists experience. I can relate to the feelings.

I found that to be a very freeing conversation you just had. Thank you for that video.

I actually clicked, bc that's literally the haircolor I want

@Magsupyourmind

21 күн бұрын

Thanks! For the haircolor: I use the brand 'Lunar Tides' and then mix the colors 'Juniper Green' with 'Cerulean Sea'. ;)

thank you so much for sharing your experience! it was inspiring and supporting somehow. i’m struggling with very similar issues in art career, anxiety, pressure, boundaries, low income and feedback, no time to make art for myself. i wish you strength and luck on your new path!

@Magsupyourmind

16 күн бұрын

Thank you!

Thanks for sharing this.

Zo herkenbaar. Goed uitgelegd!

Never give up!!

Thanks for sharing your experience, it's very valuable information.

“The arts are not a way to make a living. They are a very human way of making life more bearable. Practicing an art, no matter how well or badly, is a way to make your soul grow, for heaven’s sake. Sing in the shower. Dance to the radio. Tell stories. Write a poem to a friend, even a lousy poem. Do it as well as you possibly can. You will get an enormous reward. You will have created something.” - Kurt Vonnegut

Oh wow. I have experienced LITERALLY all of the same challenges you have and I feel the exact same way about all of them. One by one I have been checking off my list things I dislike... designing/making art for corporate companies (nope), art commissions (nope), art fairs/markets (nope). I like art shows and selling art online. That's about it. So I am sticking to that and I have a part time job (20 hours per week) that pays my monthly expenses and whatever I make off of my art I put into savings. It's good enough for me but not what I imagined. I imagined I would love it all--the designing for corporations, the art markets/fairs (ok actually I knew I would dislike standing around all day), commissions... turns out there are only a few things I like in an art career... making art, having official art shows (where I get to leave my art in the same location for a month), giving artist talks, having artist residencies, and selling art online. It's enough to make a career out of it EVENTUALLY but it's slow growth compared to doing ALL the things

Thank you for sharing your experience. 🎉❤🎉

Fantasic video and presentation, I relate to this so much. Thank you for sharing.

A lot of this resonates with me, but I am someone who tried to shut art out of his life for a decade. Then I had a really bad and chronic illness, which had slowly destroyed me for ten years. I had always worked, until I broke down after a late shift like an old car. Emergency OP and after recovery I tried working in my old job, but quit after two more years and now I am drawing every day. But I still need a dayjob, just not as my sole purpose in life. I don't get angy about work anymore. Because it is just a job now. The one thing you don't want to do is to commodify yourself. We are not made to sell ourselves and it makes us feel cheap about the great things we can create.

@Magsupyourmind

22 күн бұрын

Wow, that sounds like a huge journey. Thanks for sharing and good to hear that you're drawing again.

As a fan of your videos I'm glad to know you are finding your own path to happiness no matter where that will take you... and I have learned that while it might not be the right time now, never say never! I'm also happy to have a couple of your prints. They have now increased in value! ;-)

@Magsupyourmind

22 күн бұрын

Yes! It's deffinitly not a 'no' to art itself. Thanks for your message!

Selling something to make money to pay bills its a business mindset.. some people are great at selling, some are great at are and some are great at both.. but some people are loners and love being alone not much of a people person so they can make great art but won’t be noticed.. I think its best to have a stable career for those who are not business minded..and keep painting as a hobby and if its sells great if not not a big deal..

Such a good video! I'm on the quest to start having a living out of art so that really sounds like a dream to me right now, but I totally see how I could get to a place like where you were. Thanks for sharing!

@FilipaValentim

7 күн бұрын

So you just got a new subscriber! 😄 So happy to have found your channel!

@Magsupyourmind

7 күн бұрын

Thank you! Glad to have you around ;)

This was a great video. I like how you're honest about not succeeding with your art. Many times we why away from telling people are failures. I like hearing stories like this.

@Magsupyourmind

22 күн бұрын

Thanks!

Thank you for sharing this! ❤ I myself realized lately that I don't want to work as an Illustrator (like I always thought) because I really hate doing revisions 😂 And I enjoy having complete creative freedom.

It’s very scary to give up what you e built from scratch and i think you are very brave to let go of it❤ To be honest, in my opinion, maybe revising business plan could’ve lifted some of your hardness. Currently I am going slower to take commissions and I am not afraid to say No when I can’t produce the quality work. I never do outdoor and I don’t do pay-to-play unless I’m really sure about it. My promise is to keep my expense under profit and work within my financial means. I don’t enjoy commission that much but I still like to take ones because it’s usually in memory of someone passed and that gives my work so much meaning. I hope you are still creating and enjoying to be able to create for joy after letting go of all the burden of art biz❤

@Magsupyourmind

21 күн бұрын

I think I will be back into art soon. But I wish it to be with a lot of ideas, energy, fun, playfulness, freedom etc. That's why I need to stop everything, indeed revising the business plan and come back. I do however find my other jobs also very interesting. I'm not unhappy being there. It helps the creativity flow.

Brilliant and sensible, it sounds a lot like my life too... I think Artists should keep reinventing themselves like this woman does.

brutally honest video and I can relate to many aspects of it, as I am also constantly thriving to monetize my art. You can somewhat generate "steady" income by giving workshops, but for sure there are many artists around, doing the same.

always been creative, never saw a path of making money from it, never tried hard or long enough. But, I love my work and I still do art and probably wont ever stop :) maybe a creative side hustle is better sometimes^^

great insight into the world and the challenges of an artist. I know the problems very well 👨🏼‍🎨🤟🏼🔥

Thank you for this video. I got my degree in art but never used it and it's weighed on me all these years, but hearing your story helps me to realize that maybe it wasn't the path for me anyway. My load feels a bit lighter now. Thanks again.

@Magsupyourmind

11 күн бұрын

I relate. I studied Communication and Multimediadesign. But I also dont want to do anything with it. I also learned to play a music instrument for 8 years and then never again. I think there are many people feeling the same way. Sometimes it's just time to move on.

@pabulumm

11 күн бұрын

@@Magsupyourmind I agree. I never envisioned myself becoming a career artist, I just went to college because that's what I was told to do and I had to pick something to study so I picked what I loved. But doing so killed my love for it. I think a lot of people think that you have to stick with something for life otherwise it was a "waste" but I'm slowly learning that's not the case. At least you can say you tried.

@Magsupyourmind

11 күн бұрын

@pabulumm yes! And there are so many skills overlapping other skills. Or usefull for other things in life. I think it's never a waste of time. Just a shift of focus.

I feel you !❤

Your cards look like so much fun

Héél herkenbaar 😊 goed gezegd op het einde

@Magsupyourmind

17 күн бұрын

Dankjewel 😄

I was an illustrator for almost 20 years and it killed all my passion and creativity for the hobby which I always wanted to make my career. Of course it can work and be very fulfilling, but I was at a point where I needed to make make and take commissions I really disliked. Even hated. In the end I pretty much drew the same stuff for over 8 years because some of my work had gone "viral" in my area...and that was the final nail in the coffin. I started drawing in kindergarten and to preschool my mom collected several boxes full of drawings and painting. Half of my youth I spent in my room drawing and listening to audiobooks...just because I loved it so much. And I managed to completely destroy the passion. I tried reconnecting to the hobby again and again, but I had to accept I can not force it. Something in me has simply broken that can no longer be repaired. So yes, think carefully if you want to turn your hobby into a profession. My case is certainly not the norm, but nevertheless, the pressure of work and the compromises you have to make can take the fun out of it immensely.

Great vid, I found it and gave a lot of good advice and tips. sometimes its not always for everyone to have a freelance career. I have other alternatives to pursue other than art like writing stories and also to get a part-time job or ways to earn money... which is harder to get in the UK due to cost of living. But its good you still not give up on art, at least think of having a career to keep a roof over you is important.

Wonderful video! I've been thinking about doing art as a career since I always love to create, but your video convinced me not to do it. If I want to sell anything it has to be on my own terms and create what I long to create. Thank you!

Thanks❤

I feel the same way too.. and my family want me to selling food or snack..😅

Sounds awful to have to sit there alone watching people walk by D: I’m glad you don’t have to go through that anymore, thank you for this video

It was like watching a diary, we all know back pain and dry eyes.

I have my art day job that nothing to brag about and it's kinda boring and uninspiring, but it pays bills. not all art related jobs is about making something wonderful and creative, and working with team can help a lot. a lot of inspirational artist don't talk about boring, but providing with stable income jobs - because i know that my personal art, style and thing i enjoy can't provide me with enough money to live.

@Magsupyourmind

2 күн бұрын

Yes, I'm now working in a team (not art related) and it makes me so happy. Even when the job itself isn't that interesting. I guess a big part of me not enjoying my work is that I was mostly by myself. Maybe it's not only about what you do but also where you do it.

This is why I didn't pursue the musician career that I had, and just go on work as a factory style artist in a company. Because doing a freelance career working for companies is quite a pain to handle, instead I'll just post my work do a portfolio and let them discover me and decide if they want the style that I have instead of me forcing my way in to them.

Well I guess that‘s part of the job… dealing with clients. I know the feelings you describe, being a manufacturing jeweller. But there is no way around dealing with customers if you want to sell something. The alternative is earning money in a different job and keep doing the crative stuff as a hobby.

The fable of the Fox and the Grapes.

I totally completely relate :)

If you are a real artist, being one is forever, you cant quit. You have it or not. So, keep working on whatever you do, and makes you happy!

@Magsupyourmind

13 күн бұрын

Thank you!

Oh yeah, I’m sure being an illustrator is EXTREMELY tedious and difficult. I’m an artist, too (painting, sculpture, installation, sound art, etc.) and I LOVE my career & being a part of the crazy Contemporary Art world, but I don’t answer to anyone or have clients the way illustrators in particular do. Sometimes I’ll do a large-scale public art commission if the price is right (preferably 7 figures!), and hiring the right fabricators & reporting to the city or corporation on expenses, etc., can be tedious, but (since I don’t employ a full-time studio manager), I try to build the cost of a full-time temp project manager into my fee to make it worth doing. My advice to artists is to remember that art fairs, Etsy, etc. are extremely hard ways to even break even, let alone get rich. If you want to live as a working artist, the best way to get there is to study how famous artists you admire broke into the art world. How did they get their first solo museum show? Where did they get their MFA and who did they meet there? At which universities do they teach? Which grants did they get early on that exposed them to major players with deep pockets? Use their success as a roadmap, because the way to do it is definitely not advertised or taught. And yes, if at any point, money is ruining your passion, do NOT proceed. You only have one soul, and your art is the pathway between you and your soul.

Unfortunately, this is so common not just for artists, but predominantly to any kind of person identifying as a creative, to doubt their choices after not getting the feedback they expected AND stressing themselves out from the pressure when things go as or better than expected. You can see how it is a lose-lose scenario, right? :))))) And it all boils down to low self-esteem and lack of confidence in the value of you and your artwork. So, the art career is not the problem, but your approach to it is. You have not found the method in which to artistically express yourself WHILE enjoying the fuck out of it. It is quite difficult for people to navigate "monetizing their passion", and because of not knowing how to actually do it, they end up kinda hating the initial passion unfortunately.

@Magsupyourmind

3 күн бұрын

Yes, the biggest mistake is that I did not make money with what I love. I thought how can I use this skill to make money. Resulting to jobs I didnt like. Making a step back and creating a save and stable life will help me make a new plan. Thanks for your reaction. I think its helpful for lots of people here.

Cheers for the honesty. (subscribed). PS, at the end of this video, is that the theme music from the YT channel, The Why Files? (I'm guessing you are a fan as well ;-)

@Magsupyourmind

21 күн бұрын

He! No, I'm getting my music from epidemic sound. But this channel looks amazing! Thanks for the tip!

@theworldaccordingto4555

18 күн бұрын

@@Magsupyourmind You are welcome!

I'm sorry that you had to go through it the hard way, the important thing is that you learned a lesson and weren't afraid to give up on what no longer fulfills you. I love your art and I believe others feel the same, who knows what we all have to go through in life, I think it's brave of you to openly show your path without embellishment and thank you for that. ✨🤍🤍🤗

@Magsupyourmind

23 күн бұрын

That's really kind! Thank you!

I'm sorry to hear that and wanted to share a thought after watching your video. I hope you don't mind, and perhaps it might add some food for thought. I could be wrong, but it seemed to me that throughout your journey, you've been an "everything artist." There were elements of graphic design, portrait painting, cute cartoony animals, children's books-each with a completely different style. While exploring different mediums and styles is valuable, when you decide to showcase your work, it can be beneficial to establish a niche, usually what you love most, and master it. This not only boosts your confidence as an artist but also allows you to become a specialist and, with hard work, potentially one of a kind. I hope my comment doesn't hurt you, as that's not my intention. I wish you all the best on whichever path you choose.

@Magsupyourmind

21 күн бұрын

Thank you! Yes, I think that's also a reason why I had to quit. Just to revision my thought on how that would look like. I'm a person who is easily bored by the work I'm doing. So after making an illustration book, the last thing on my mind was making another one, or going more into that field. So sticking with a niche would also be a reason to -not like my art career. That's also why I love making videos. Because there is lots and lots of different elements in this proces. So who knows, maybe this will be my niche ;)

What is your new job? I have an art career currently and I get so much neck and back pain from sitting and hunching over screens all day :(

@Magsupyourmind

3 күн бұрын

I'm helping teenagers find a fitting education and job. That's so annoying! There are some really great health tips in the comments of the video 'why I stopped pursuing my art career'. If you're looking for some new input.

Your art is beautiful. It's a strange world that makes it difficult for an Artist like you to thrive.

Your art is fantastic but what I love just as much is your ability to craft a narrative with the great storytelling and editing of this video. Think about that for a bit.

@Magsupyourmind

3 күн бұрын

Thank you! Maybe youtube will be one of my income streams also🤷‍♀️

I had a similar experience working with someone on a comic....so many changes and critiques ( mostly stupid) the whole project ground to a halt.

Thank you for sharing your experience. Just today I was thinking about selling my arts physically... But that would require a lot of money to start. I guess I will stop thinking about it. I want to get a job that pays every month like normal. And then making arts will just become a hobby.

@Magsupyourmind

22 күн бұрын

I'm not here to discourage you! If you want to experiment with selling your art, please go ahead! I did, and I'm still doing it. However, I prefer to keep it low-key. After all, I don't have a passion for running a post office (I could have written a chapter about that too).

@nicolasb.henry294

22 күн бұрын

It is possible but it requires communication skills. I come from the corporate world and start an art career my former experience teach me a lot and selling art is nothing more than selling a product to a certain audience of customers. I know some artists find this approach too commercial but those are facts art is market and the final aim is to sell in order to make money. Maybe try to find some information about art marketing and communication skills it would definitely help you.

Im sorry to hear you quit. I wish you could make a lot of money with your art. I try that too. Can I just say that I really admire the way you did your art, and you brought me a lot of inspiration. Me doing the 100 heads challenge for the 2nd time atm. because a video of yours. LOL Gonna see the other video now.

@Magsupyourmind

22 күн бұрын

That's a really hard challenge! Wauw! That's amazing. Maybe I should give it a second try also..

@cookiemonster3147

22 күн бұрын

@@Magsupyourmind That would be awesome. The first 100 I did on a5 paper size with graphite, this time Im working on a2 with compressed charcoal. After that Im gonna do another 100 with another medium and work my way up until I can do it in oil paint for a living.

@Magsupyourmind

22 күн бұрын

@@cookiemonster3147 that's ambitious! Really cool! Good job!

@cookiemonster3147

22 күн бұрын

​@@Magsupyourmind Thanks. Can I sent you a link to my website somewhere? I'm not sure if KZread allows that.

@Magsupyourmind

22 күн бұрын

Do you have Instagram? Mine is magsupyourmind

Taking commissions means, of course, working to someone elses requirements. That means compromising and being subject to their needs and being subject to their criticism. That is why, if I become a professional artist, I will not take commissions.

i am a artist i draw and have been into 3d artwork from the 1980s and got into video editing and photos and film making and horror and gory make up and mask making and the list goes on an when i was 16 i started dj music and stopped at 30 but geting back into it again yea dont stop take a break you have some good artwork !!! with what i do i go back and forth and am just getting into drawing on screen for 3d with the pc , hmmm i have my screen for over a year and still have not open the box it may not fit on my gaming desktop ........oh i forgot i game too LOL just sub to you

@Magsupyourmind

20 күн бұрын

Hahaha love this chaos! Thanks for sharing!

Goede keuze gemaakt lijkt me, je kan altijd nog van niet commercieel werk, commercieel werk maken in de vorm van kaartjes of magazines o.i.d. Maar inderdaad geen financiële druk om te presteren of dat je moet gaan maken wat mensen willen dat je maakt... ipv dat je puur op je eigen enthousiasme vaart.

well at least you're very good in making video's 😁 and I really like your art! Maybe starting an online shop? groetjes uit Nederland 😉

@Magsupyourmind

22 күн бұрын

Thanks! Ja die heb ik ook nog 😂 Gelukkig zijn er ook nog inkomsten die ik wel leuk vind 😁

9:30 the Why Files gang, anyone interested in arts? 👽🎨

It seems to hat 90 % of people hate their job

So what is the non-art job that you have now? I am very curious to know

@Magsupyourmind

14 күн бұрын

I work at a place where they help young students (mostly 16/17 year old) into a new education. So I do coaching but I also teach and help new employees.

@mickrozycki451

12 күн бұрын

@@Magsupyourmind That sound nice. :)

Well the market will always self correct. Making money is a type of success, we need to put food on the table after all, but the other type of success you can have is mastering the craft. Everything else is just self indulgence.

They can take my pencil from my cold dead hands.

"Clarity is the path to inner peace" - Homer Simpson's Spirit Guide

@Magsupyourmind

15 күн бұрын

😂

It's okay if you hate your art and/or your career, beautiful. Just remember to honor your Biological Imperative. #FirstPrinciples #EmbraceYourGodGivenBeauty #MakeLoveNotMoney #YouAreAlreadyEnough #MarriageIsMoreMeaningful

stop following your dreams as your day job, unless your dream is to be a banker. stop listening to those pseudo romantic taglines.

oof

Why not call it "Why I gave up my illustration career"? Selling art at craft shows makes your work craft instead of art. I remember the day I gave up graphic design and illustration to pursue a career as a pro artist. I was never suited for business, sales and the ad industry. It was like being locked in a cage. Gallery art feels almost the same, same style over and over. "This is what we need" Uhm kindly GFY! Now I only paint whatever I'm inspired to paint and have a personalized showing every couple of years. I don't have a job, I have a life! Sometimes I get paid handsomely other times I don't. So be it. I can eat, got me some roof and a bit left over for supplies. Yeah, think of it as stuck in a matrix. I got to make X amount of money, I got to be popular, look like I made it. No one really cares. it's all in your head, driven by this ignorant social matrix. The feelings you can get from plain-air or figurative creation from your own inspiration, you could literally throw it in the trash and walk away happy!

@Magsupyourmind

22 күн бұрын

I understand where you're coming from. I would prefer to focus on creating art first and thinking about money second. So I removed myself from this art=money mindset. Now I'm getting the art=playing mindset back.

@ltwig476

22 күн бұрын

@@Magsupyourmind Good for you. It's kind of like going back to school. Making enough income to support yourself but not a dime more effort or time on that side. More effort focused on the lifelong art career you really want. Except that effort is really extreme in order to learn in a timely manner. Once you decide what you want, all free time is out the window. Your "free" time is enjoying building your skill. You either want the art life or you're only wishing. Your failures are better lessons than your accomplishments and they will far accede (as well they should) more often than accomplishments. You just keep the constant momentum, next ,next ,next. A kind warrior. Be kind to yourself and others while still being a warrior!

@mickrozycki451

12 күн бұрын

@@ltwig476 That's a good reply.

So you quit art because you try hard for 3 years? well, welcome to reality, I had to spend 10 years working on my art to see results. And yet today again I have a lot of financial problems, but I have no regrets.

That’s stupid… but hey… there’s always someone… 🤔

@Magsupyourmind

6 күн бұрын

What do you mean?

Why b artsy phartsy in the 1st place.

@Magsupyourmind

9 күн бұрын

See the last two chapters of this video.

lol, working as a gtaphic designer for a company is not an "art career" in the first place. I thought this video was going to be about something completely different.

@Magsupyourmind

14 күн бұрын

Maybe you should watch the whole video ;)

@lLenn2

14 күн бұрын

@@Magsupyourmind Maybe I will >:(