not everyone's a pro, so i think having something a little op (but not WAY op) is actually good for the game's health gives the casuals something to enjoy too (plus they still gotta git gud and tk less with it so it still has a learning curve)

@yopg2936

3 жыл бұрын

There are plenty of good weapons. Rumbler beats them all and is on another power level. There is a 10-minute learning curve (getting the basic range feel) and that's it. I don't consider teamkills because that's just careless player's fault - I rate its effectiveness against enemies. I know there are tons of casuals, but my loadout shown on the video is just one player WITHOUT stratagems support. Just imagine 3 or 4 Rumblers with full offensive stratagem support. I also believe Rumbler decreases variety - many players will always pick mortal over the rest of the equipment which unconsciously ruins their experience long-term. Also, equipment is not supposed to beat the levels for you, It's the skill. If you can't handle high difficulty you should drop it and attempt them once you are ready.

@user-uj9oi2cp1m

3 жыл бұрын

@@yopg2936 you're thinking of players like machines- 10 minutes is not NEARLY enough time for anyone to fully understand how to use the rumbler especially in practical situations. and let me reiterate it for you, NOT EVERYONE'S A PRO. you're able to do so much with a single rumbler because you have 1000+hrs in the game and know exactly how each enemy will react, and how your rumbler will perform. your positioning is flawless, and that's something that every new player struggles with and has to learn: when to fall back and when to push. i used to be like how you described- playing rumbler with lift-850 in every single dive. but i turned to other weapons eventually for variety, and that combined with the experience i got playing rumbler, helped me learn positioning much better. as for your point "If you can't handle high difficulty you should drop it and attempt them once you are ready." , i think it balances it out. a player with insufficient skill is able to enjoy high difficulty with a stronger weapon. once he gets used to using the rumbler in high difficulty dives, it means he has improved, and he is able to switch to other 'less powerful' weapons for variety and pull his own weight in the process

@yopg2936

3 жыл бұрын

I agree using Rumbler to its full potential should take more time, but that's not required. The basic feel is about 10 to 20 minutes of a learning curve then players combine it with Static Fields, SH-20, and such to completely bypass the positioning, AI attack patterns, and such + on top of that it's not a single Rumbler but 3-4 (average Cyborg lobby). In my humble opinion, Rumbler is anti-skill which means your skill actually gets worse by using it. You don't have to avoid enemy attacks (so you never get to memorize them). Additionally, people usually get stuck with meta because they are afraid of their low performance so they continue on using Rumbler and this applies to 90% of the community. Your case is actually super rare so congrats! No, you are not supposed to beat high difficulties without skill. That's a good example of why Rumbler needs a nerf and anyway, you can enjoy low-mid difficulties too.

@niels6090

3 жыл бұрын

The thing about rumbler is that you delete enemies before you have to interact with them, so getting good or knowing your enemy gets reduced to "How long does it take them to move towards me and where can I reload in safety?" It's very similar to the people using the AT emplacement with REP guns to just clear the entire field without having to move or do anything other than press the fire button. The question of whether something "should" be nerfed is an interesting one, but the Rumbler is definitely in a league of it's own and completely skews the game's balance when you deploy with one, especially when combined with other powerful stratagems like static fields.

@ilovehelldivers5317

2 жыл бұрын

Now this is some old style debate, a good one

Rumbler is actively toxic to vehicle usage too. Effective bastion driving is often tricky enough when fatass butchers somehow weigh more than you do, and even walkers still have to be wary of getting smooshed by IFVs, Bug tanks, flayed by Impalers or skewered by Obelisks. Wtf can a vehicle guy do when HAHA RUMBLER GO BRRR tries to save the day for the billionth time only to delete the best meatshield the squad has in one shot? At least recrifles, EATS and such are controllable with small and predictable blast radius, so you can work with your tanker friends and shoot a warlord off their back if need be.

So what I'm seeing is, that you want a Bajonett for the Rumbler? /j

Does the c4 even compare with this thing

Hey man, it’s been a while, but I’ve always loved your content. You think you’ll be uploading a couple of runs of Helldivers 2 and give us your thoughts on it?

_>me enjoying RS with Rando loadout with my friend_ _>a wild lvl 50 admiral joins the party_ _>he calls rumbler, buble shield and spams static everywhere_ *Sorry lil' admiral, go back to your lobby*

@dreaddead4023

11 ай бұрын

Back in the day, old lv 50 were guaranteed carry material when they joined game, they used airstrikes ammo and beacon a lot, no additional weapons, accesories etc.... nowadays lv 50 are onsly cripples with rumbler

I'm not a fan of the breaker for the same reason. No reason you should 1-clip an entire horde of enemies.

What do you think C4 detonator ?

@yopg2936

3 жыл бұрын

It's good and satisfying to use. :)

@taranmangat6688

Жыл бұрын

@@yopg2936 how abt the avenger against bugs, I thought that was a little op imo

How do you feel about the Trident and Sickle out of curiosity?

@hellopersonreadingthis2523

14 күн бұрын

Tridents and sickles can’t deal with waves of butchers or warlords.

I'd rather have someone use rumbler than turn on god mode

RAMBUUUUURUUUUUU :D

@b0nes95

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha

What do you think should be done to nerf it?

@yopg2936

2 жыл бұрын

Nerfed ammunition. Players can only use it twice before having to reload.

@Dynamiez

10 ай бұрын

I am very VERY late to the party, but the rumbler needs to be nerfed that it only has 1 shot before reload like the RL112 and you should have to carry a ammo backpack like other AT weapons have. then it would be on par with the other ATs

@mikless6936

6 ай бұрын

​@@Dynamiezthen its just a worse recoiless

Nah, the one definitely OP is distractor beacon. I could clear the mission cyborg on inner circle of hell difficulty within 15 minutes.

Why he doesnt take dmg at 1.59? A bug or just lucky?

@SlongestKongest

6 ай бұрын

Luck jus missed him

@crov43

3 ай бұрын

also how is he not getting downed by the flames. Was the game buffed these last couple of years?

@SlongestKongest

3 ай бұрын

@@crov43 if u prone u don't take dmg

@knuthansen8524

3 ай бұрын

@@crov43 Or maybe he will be the star in the next Karl Jobst video? :)

RUMBLER GAMING RUMBLER GAMING

@yopg2936

3 жыл бұрын

Attention, Rumbler user has entered the facility.

@westernlizard353

3 жыл бұрын

@@yopg2936 nah, i believe in commando supremacy

@marcelocarneiro8410

3 жыл бұрын

@@westernlizard353 forget explosives, lets return to MG

@niels6090

3 жыл бұрын

@@westernlizard353 Commando is possibly even more OP in a duo setting XD If I drop in on some randoms and they already got a mando out I won't even bother dropping mine because I know it'd just degrade into a boring rocket barrage spam till the end of the game or I'd be kicked for not reloading him.

@ilovehelldivers5317

2 жыл бұрын

Heh, London based as always

It is obvious that you have not played it on difficulties 13 to 15, that is where it is most noticeable that just having the Rumbler is not enough. Besides that, why the hell are you asking for it to be nerfed? If you don't like the weapon DO NOT USE IT and that simple! don't try to ruin the experience and enjoyment of other players just because of your own personal displeasure

so, was the video unrelated or? given how you were struggling, this really isn't a great argument for the loadout being OP

@jnb_110

3 ай бұрын

Did you even watched the video, or even played the game with randos running the Rumbler? If you did, then you’d really understand why this weapon is OP.

@mrosskne

3 ай бұрын

@@jnb_110 it's really bad

@jnb_110

2 ай бұрын

@@mrosskne I dont know man, think youre kinda bad at the game 😬 No offense

@mrosskne

2 ай бұрын

@@jnb_110 better than you, certainly.

Not sure what has changed since back then but the Rumbler is not very good. I've emptied over an entire 4 shell magazine from the rumbler onto one of the Cyborg tanks and it didn't even immobilize it. These were well placed shots too where all 3 shells hit the tank and yet it does nothing. That's a common occurrence. Other times, a single volley might one shot it. It doesn't make any sense why it would be so inconsistent but the recoiless is much better purely for the fact that it's more consistent. The rumbler is only consistently good against the other heavier armor units like the cyborg mechs. And even judging by this video where it doesn't suffer from the inconsistency it does now. It doesn't look broken powerful. You can tell you're severely handicapped by only using your rumbler and bayonet. The vast majority of the player base would not be able to do this.

@yopg2936

Жыл бұрын

Tip: shell must hit the hatch (IFV's back).

@Alex_Vir

Жыл бұрын

The Rumbler isn't officially anti tank but has in most cases the ability to perform as such, this is one instance where it doesn't do it and where you have to use the weakpoint to damage the enemy.

I always thought it was funny that people cried so much about OP things in this game but spamming melee dodge all the way to lvl 50 was completely fine.