I see great potential in your channel, keep doing the good job!

Even though I love my Pocket 6K, I think that you made a mistake. The Sony A7SIII is the perfect wedding video camera. It has amazing autofocus, great low light ability, electronic viewfinder, mounts easily on a super light Weebill-S gimbal, dual card record for back up (a savior for weddings) and on and on. I don't shoot weddings anymore, and only do commercial work, so the pocket is better suited for when you have time to set-up. One other great feature is that you can pair the Sony A7Siii with the Sony UWP-D26 and you have super high quality audio recording.

@candymultanifilms872

2 жыл бұрын

exactly

Subbed :) I appreciate videography channels that grounds their reasoning in practical experiences rather than just focusing on specs. Practicality trumps pure horsepower after all Keep at it!

@alexlester2834

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude!

yea, I am still debating in my head. Portability of A7s is just unbeatable and ISO 12000 is sick. No rigging needed as it is stabilied, and 4K 120p at fullframe sensor I think still worth the price. No need for so many batteries to power follow focus systems and cables... throwing it on a gimbal for few shots also way easier. But again, I opted for pocket4k :D as it is fraction of the price and god image is stunning.

@MrVh78

3 жыл бұрын

Best AutoFocus in the world. Biggest pro of Sony.

Great video!

I think its good to point out that the difference between a proper cinema camera and hybrid like the a7siii. If image quality is king as well as resolution & raw format , go with the blackmagic but knowing you have to work around the camera not the other way round. If you need a balance between features, convenience and image quality then a7siii is the better choice no doubt. The choice is simple imo, just gage your priorities and choose accordingly.

Great job buddy!

Good Job my friend. You made me think once more...

subscribed to your channel love your content. Thinking of buying a 6 k pro. Keep up your good work

Awesome Video Alex,thank you!

@alexlester2834

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome :)

love your content. best wishes from another bmpcc 6k user.

@alexlester2834

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Great Video. I own 02 BMPCC 4Ks and a Sony A7siii. I do prefer the BM colours and UI and use them for my weddings. The only reason I am gravitating towards the sony (or my Lumix S5) is the option to record to Dual SD cards...the fear of losing data while using BM cams is a bit concerning for me..I use SD cards for the BM cams too. Your thoughts?

Also the BRAW codec is a huge deal, my old i7 desktop cuts it like a hot knife through butter.

@alexlester2834

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely right. Are you cutting in DaVinci or PP?

@I5H78

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexlester2834 I use Davinci because I like it's coloring tools

@raysmith5487

3 жыл бұрын

which generation of i7 are you using? pls tell the name

@I5H78

3 жыл бұрын

@@raysmith5487 i7 8700(nonK version)

@ekphotography

3 жыл бұрын

I have a feeling you are lying. I have a 2019 mid tier iMac with bells and whistles and it is very laggy... Cannot wait to get an M1 Mac soon.

Great video :). I still have the A7SII. I will not upgrade yet, but I am thinking about it. I am struggling to decide which way to go. Sony, or BMPCC. I am really used to the full frame now + the IBIS + low light is why I'm hesitant. I shoot weddings, YT vids, but I would like to step into the filmmaking world and shoot narrative short films in the future.

@laurenthenry

2 жыл бұрын

No need to switch then

What about the quality of the file? Can you get the Sony file to look as good as the file from the BMPCC? I'd love to move away from the BMPCC, but I haven't been able to match the quality with any other camera.

Hey bro, really informative vid! Can I ask what you do in the event of rain on the wedding / elopement day? Thanks again!

@alexlester2834

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! If it rains - like, really rains - I'll ask a groomsman to follow me around with an umbrella while I capture whatever's needed. Then I'm straight back inside for a cup of tea!

Hey, dude thnx for the video. Myself alai has the choice to make, the 6k or the a7siii. Have two ef lenses 24-70 and 70-200 both 2.8 tamron g2. But i still went with the Sony because of the autofocus. I know its more expensive, being a 1 man band with interviews i don't have the time to check if both cameras are in focus. Together with the amazing low light preformance and future investments i thought sony have me the most headroom. Anyway love the picture of the 6k and so need to learn a lot so keep on shooting guys! 🙂

I am actually in the debate between bmpcc 6k pro and a second-hand sony FS5m2. Since I do corporate and narrative style video most but sometimes the product shots require high framerates. BRAW is a huge huge win compared to prores raw, but the ergonomic of the cine cam body and being able to shot 4k120p really attract me.

I definitely was expecting to see something in this review about the autofocus features. I thought that would be a really important consideration for weddings, and also that low light might get a mention. How do you find the Blackmagic performs for autofocus, do you manage to get every shot?

@alexlester2834

3 жыл бұрын

I always use manual focus - so the BMPCC's poor AF system doesn't really factor into my thinking. No denying the Sony is superior in low light, but a dual native ISO isn't too shabby on the BMPCC (plus there's always LED panels to be relied upon in extreme situations)

Really enjoyed this Alex! About to fire the bullet on a bmpcc 6k for wedding use and you only solidified that its the right choice for me. I think a really cool video would be explaining how much you charge for weddings & how you gain clients. Many people (including myself) find that info valuable as they upstart their careers!

@alexlester2834

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Kyle ☺️ Thank you for the positive feedback and congratulations on buying a BMPCC 6K! Great idea on the pricing/onboarding clients vlog, I'll be sure to give that a go

@alexlester2834

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Kyle. I've pieced together a video detailing three ways to gain new clients. This also touches on pricing too. Hope this helps: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nquD0s-Rk7iZedI.html

@KyleJay

3 жыл бұрын

Alex Lester sweet i’ll check it out thanks so much!

@stevenfries7032

3 жыл бұрын

I hope you didnt fire that bullet too soon.....because the PRO version is out.....

I also choosed Pocket 6k over Sony, I was using Sony a6000 for years but BM was better upgrade for me than A7sIII or other options.

Great video! How do you find the weight of that set up then for weddings? And manual focusing for the entire day for weddings? I’m an aspiring film maker, but short films are far and few between and I do the occasional wedding as well. So for me I’m thinking I rig up the Sony a7siii so I can have start to practice manual focus but still have the auto focus when I need it etc - I would love to buy the Bmpcc 6K pro but I think for me, it would be buying a camera and not being able to use it straight away - maybe a future investment when I’ve developed the skill set of manual focus.

@alexlester2834

2 жыл бұрын

Hey man. Thank you! Manual focus isn't really an issue so long as you use peking - which my external monitor offers. I think if you want an easy life, the Sony is the way to go, but in all seriousness I think the Bmpcc will make you a much better videographer in the long run!

Very good video - have you priced in the cost of an external monitor for the BMPCC ? Maybe for wedding work - which is largely indoor shooting - one can get away with just using the built-in monitor but - outdoors - just relying on the BMPCC's monitor - is - at least in my experience - a hit and miss affair.

@alexlester2834

3 жыл бұрын

Great question. I opted for a Feelworld option which only came in at around £100. Even with something more advanced though - something like an Shinobi or Ninja - you'd still come in wayyyy under the price of an A7Siii

Have used a7si A7s ii A7s iii and fs7, now using the 6k pro, the internal ND Filters are extremely useful though not so accurate with color, the ef mount is brilliant finaly not needing an adapter saves on weight. And the color from the blackmagic grades much nicer in my opinion and kind of looks like the arri color science eventhough the Sony is very good I find I looks more like video than film. Shooting an entire wedding in 6k raw isn’t really feasible in my opinion data storage and converting for long term storage is going to be expensive ,maybe not as much as shooting red raw shooting in 4K proress is more than adequate for the job shooting in 6k has its benefits but I’d say it’s minimal for the end result

hey brother, not sure if you notice the math there - if you add the RS2 you showed there into the BM6kPro for stabilization you end up spending more than the A7siii/FX3.

Hands down BMPCC6K is not an easy to use documentary run and gun camera. The images are great no doubt the shooting experience not so much. I find myself constantly finding ways to improve my rig (costing more money) so that I can pull focus and shoot on the go at the same time.

@laurenthenry

2 жыл бұрын

So true ! I sold my bmpcc4K because of that. Impossible to balance on a gimbal, shitty battery life and no IBIS.

Personally , I think the A7SIII is much better in terms of the 'look', it is much closer to an Arri . Also having a 4K 120p feature is a major plus. I however purchased the 6K Pro due to the price difference, and as you rightly mentioned 2020 was very difficult so i couldnt afford to spend £3,000+ on a camera body. I do at the moment rent the A7SIII from time to time. Straight out the box the A7S III give you a beautiful compression with its full frame sensor, to achieve a similar look on the 6K/Pro , you would need 24-70mm range in lens (for compression) and shoot at around f1.8-f2.8 with a pro mist to really exaggerate the depth of field.

@alexlester2834

2 жыл бұрын

It's definitely a close contest, but for me shooting 48fps at 6K BRAW trumps 120fps at 4K

Pretty much similar to my rig , I mainly use prime vintage lenses which are lighter... I can totally see how zoom lens is way more practical for weddings, How do you deal with the weight though ? Doesn't it get tiresome after 5-6 hours of shooting?

@alexlester2834

Жыл бұрын

Hey dude. Nah I'm used to it to be honest. Plus, it's not like the camera is on the entire time - as with any job, there are plenty of moments for me to camera down throughout a typical wedding day. On the subject of lenses, I've actually made the move to primes myself and I'm really loving Samyang's range of cine lenses. What are you using on your rig?

@FivosVas

Жыл бұрын

@@alexlester2834 I am a very weak guy, haha If I use 18-35 I get tired after about two hours of shooting. I switched to vintage Minolta lenses 24 28, 50. I use them with a speed booster

Had the 6k and 6k Pro since both came out, LOVED them. But ultimately switched the the S3/A1 (need a main photo camera since wedding photography is still a main source for me). Got tired of the micro jitters, always slightly missing focus, in and out, in and out, I prefer to shoot wide open, 1.2 if possible, and it's very very hard maintaining focus when someone is walking down the aisle, etc. Sony's eye/face detection is out of this world and exactly what I was wanting. And not to even mention the IBIS, my handheld shots are smoother than the Blackmagic was on a gimbal lol. Price to me is irrelevant, this is a business and especially if you're doing Weddings, one wedding pays for your camera or a very large portion of it. Plus it's a business expense. Still have my 6k Pro that I'll set up as a stationary for a second angle though. Love the image that comes out of those things!

@laurenthenry

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly ! At the end of the day it's a tool and the a7s3 caters for filmmakers needs making their life easier. The amazing AF, excellent battery and low light. On the contrary I feel like apart from the unbeatable image at this price point, the bmpcc4K/6K is a real pain to operate ahahah

@ScarmackProductions

2 жыл бұрын

@@laurenthenry LOL I agree. I've done a handheld rig, shoulder rig, Glidecam Rig, Gimbal Rig, Monopod rig. No matter what I did I just never got "comfortable" with it and was always fighting the little quirks. When I switched to the S3 is seemed all those quirks got ironed out and it allowed me to focus more on my content and being in the moment, which in my opinion, made my films better. Now I strictly do weddings so It's not like I'm creating a golden globe or anything, but as long as they're happy at the end of the day then it's a win to me. And that's what they Sony gave to me.

Near the end I don't think you included the price of the lens with the Blackmagic camera. I think for you the Blackmagic might be the right choice but for other people the A7 III might be the right choice. I bought an A7 III last year instead of the the A7 SIII because it works better for my needs and it was in my price range. I got the lens and camera together for $2K. I need to take photos as well as record video.

why is this video in log?

You mention how bmpcc is a steal of a deal but you do have to buy the whole set up to operate which can be costly. Compare that to the run and gun Sony a7siii, you don’t really need the whole setup since it has in body image stabilization, longer battery life, auto focus, etc. So it comes down to what you need it for pretty much…

@alexlester2834

3 жыл бұрын

Not sure I agree. To get up and running with the BMPCC you need a cage, lens and a few extra batteries - not necessarily all the bits I mention in the video. All in this comes in way under £2.5k, which is wayyy cheaper than a similar A7Siii setup.

So you don’t use any Sony Cams anymore??? What about your postproduction? Did you need to change your workflow completely?

@alexlester2834

3 жыл бұрын

I still use Sony cams but use the BMPCC6K as my 'A' cam. My workflow hasn't altered really - still using Premier Pro, no dramas

@impulsiveartsmedia

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexlester2834 Ok. Great! That’s pretty cool. I guess, for me it would be much harder... I am also a wedding photographer/videographer and a Videojournalist. I am using 2x Sony A7 III, a Sony A7RIII and still a Nikon D850 (20 years ago I started with Nikon D800 - 4 years ago I switched to Sony and sold almost everything of Nikon except my Nikon D850) - I Take only the Nikon when I work with my wife on bigger weddings. Right now, I am thinking about buying a BMPCC 6K pro, I just love the colors, BRAW and the extra space working with 6K, but I am pretty afraid of the post with BRAW. And for fast weddings I would still use my Sony A7III & A7RIII I am working for 10 years with final cut and I guess there is no other option than to learn davinci resolve. AND that’s a huge deal for me 😅

@lukebriz6253

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexlester2834 do you ever use the bmpcc and the sony together? If so how do you go about matching colours? Cheers

@alexlester2834

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukebriz6253 Hi Luke. I do yes - but rarely. When it comes to grading I apply my go-to LUT then tinker with the curves, temp and shadows to match them up

If you shoot film bmpcc 6k pro. but for fast pace one man band shooting a7sIII.

Why would a wedding videographer use a camera without continuous autofocus? Never understood that.

@alexlester2834

2 жыл бұрын

I'd always back my focus skills over an auto system, specifically my ability to pull focus at specific, key moments such as the confetti throw (when auto focus locks onto the confetti) and the first dance (when low light conditions can negatively affect AF). Maybe the question should be: why would any self respecting wedding videographer choose a cheaper, lower quality camera over the BMPCC because of its AF system alone. Hope that helps

@PatrickMC

2 жыл бұрын

​@@alexlester2834 I mean I was referring more to the a7siii like ya know, the one you're comparing this against in the video...not a cheap alternative, but yeah I suppose everyone has their preference.

@PatrickMC

2 жыл бұрын

​ @Alex Lester I mean I was referring more to the a7siii like ya know, the one you're comparing this against in the video...not a cheap alternative, but yeah I suppose everyone has their preference.

Go to 6:01 if you came here for the title of the video. Good analysis!

Wheww, it's a tough choice. I've been a Canon guy for a few decades but am weary of Canon's feature choices (or lack of them) in very expensive "new" systems. For crying out loud, my 70D has touch screen dual pixel focus and face tracking, I couldn't get that in the C100, then the C100 MKII, then the C300, then the C300 MKII but, I can, years later, drop $11k to finally have it in the C300 MKiii...really Canon? No camera is perfect for it all so you have to weigh the pluses and minuses. The modern menu system, 6K, BRAW are big pluses in the BMPCC...real big but, You settle that adrenaline rush down and get a little more analytical and you take a look at those minus'. Autofocus, a big deal for me with interview and following people while they talking needs that tracking, a must but, BMPCC 6K's autofocus is almost useless for me. Image stabilization, not in the BMPCC 6K but the A7S iii has it plus gyroscopic information in camera that is planted in the metadata, very good for post stabilizing without a lot of cropping. In fact, that full frame gives you plenty of output options that don't crop/window. Low light is just not good on the BMPCC 6K but amazing on the Sony. The BMPCC would certainly protect my EF mount Canon lens investment. Full frame sensor on the Sony a big plus. So, you look at both out of the box, The Sony has an articulating screen, a must so, you'll need a monitor for the BMPCC and starting with Portkey you start at $500 and go up to nearly seven with Blackmagic's monitors, more with Atomos. Battery life is good with the Sony but with the BMPCC you'd be in a race to see whether it gives out before a Canon R5 overheats...a very short race, so add a battery pack system. BM battery grip a bit high at $245 but you can find less expensive options still, one more thing to add to the cost and one more to hang on a rig. Now we're closing in on the Sony A7s iii price, or at least within consideration range and on the Canon C300/200 bulk size and weight. I certainly don't see anything in the Canon camp, the R5 is an oven masquerading as a camera, the C70, as Canon usual, WAY expensive for that class/size of camera and not even a full frame camera. As much as the BMPCC 6K appeals to me, it is that autofocus, both face tracking and eye tracking that I have to have. If only Blackmagic could get on that. It boils down to your own workflow and clientele needs. I'm ready to dump my C300 and pull the trigger on a BMPCC IF they would just get that autofocus better.

@alexlester2834

3 жыл бұрын

You're bang on about the lack of tilting screen + auto focus being issues with the BMPCC 6K, but to me it's still an absolute steal at under £2k. As I mention in the video, even with the cage, mic, focus wheel, monitor (mine was a steal at £150!) and matte box, it still came in at under the cost of the A7Siii's body alone!

@wayneb5516

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexlester2834 All those goodies coupled with the price certainly makes one drool. The picture is great and the BM ecosystem is something that I am very interested in...a camera matched to an editing system. It all boils down to work flow and I admit that a lot of mine dealing with interviews and tracking people may be a bit of an outlier. After a couple decades I have really grown weary of Canon's marketing ways, not the technology or color science, they are great but how they dole it out to the customer. I wanted to drop the bulk of the C300 but the C70, at $5500 does not have face tracking, my eight year old 70D has it but Canon won't let you have it. A bit of a frustrating tease, one company has amazing technology but won't let you have it for less than ten grand, the other has amazing system at an unbelievable price but missing that one key ingredient. Certainly can't go with the R5, a recent interview by the head of Canon and even he said the 8K was just a marketing move to beat the competition to it with no thought to the engineering flaws. Interesting to see what Blackmagic does with the next iteration of the BMPCC, surely autofocus can be improved. Even on the G2 and 12k it would probably be no more than a firmware upgrade. We'll see, I'm rooting for Blackmagic.

@WillinovaTV

3 жыл бұрын

Great analysis I feel the exact way as you do as a BMPCC6K owner. It’s not fun to shoot with the tonne of things to add on and not to mention I’m no perfect focus puller and miss out on a lot of shots for run and gun.

@jasonnowwhat5041

3 жыл бұрын

@@wayneb5516 the C70 absolutely has face tracking.

@wayneb5516

3 жыл бұрын

@@jasonnowwhat5041 - yes it does, how many years after they released the feature? 2013. Each year either no feature in the cinema line or a crippled version. I'm just not biting their promises any longer. The R5C is going to fix the heat problem? Does anyone believe that they won't cripple that camera in one way or another to "protect" others in their line? Sony is throwing everything downline to get people in their system.

6K PRO is much better because of internal NDs and battery life is fixed. Original NP-F570 can keep the camera alive for 1,5 hour and my 80€ powerbank can keep the camera alive for 6 hours (6K Braw 5:1 50FPS, 2TB T7 SSD)

Except Netflix will not accept anything below the Ursa for film making. Sony FX 6 for the win.

So wrong, the a7s3 is by far a way better option, no rig needed, the bmpcc6k is a nightmare to balance on a gimbal (you need counterweigt etc.), the screen has a blue tint, the body is enormous, no IBIS, the battery is crap, you need to swap all the time. The lowlight on the the a7s3 is amazing and god knows you need a good low light camera on weddings. One point to mention with the bmpcc4k/6k is when you start filling up your ssd, the boot up time starts to be going higher and higher because it has to calculate the amount of space left calculating all those files, it can be a pain (it has been for me) Then you need to think file format, with the bm you can't record h265 or even h264 files and that my friend fills up you media storage pretty quickly. Of course the Sony a7s3 is almost double in price and of course the image quality of the bmpcc6k is higher but at the end of the day when you grade your footage I bet the majority of people won't see a difference. Then a lightweight camera, with amazing AF, great battery life, amazing low light, excellent viewfinder, versatile mount system (E mount is cross compatible with virtually any mount) etc...plus the 4K120fps, low footprint files it's worth the price difference imho

@alexlester2834

2 жыл бұрын

Agree to disagree I guess Laurent! While I appreciate a lot of what you're saying, the BMPCC works for me on the basis that: I don't use gimbals (glidecam all the way), I have the battery grip which reduces the battery issue and an external monitor to help monitor the composition/exposure etc (I haven't experienced the blue tint issue you refer to on the screen also). No denying the A7SIII is a killer cam, but when you consider the BMPCC comes in at roughly half the price, and boasts superior picture quality, it's easy to see why so many people have gone the way of Black Magic over Sony.

Still choose a7s3 af, IS, codec is just fine, color is good enough for my work.

@wmosleycr7

3 жыл бұрын

The BMPCC 6k pro has mini dual xlr, 5in bright hdr monitor, built in NDs, SSD via usb-c, 12v power and NP-F 570 batteries, better UI, black magic raw and prores raw, Davinci Resolve studio, 6k, good lowlight. Sony IBIS is trash but AF, lowlight, flippy touch screen, and slowmo are more of the highlights

@chenming8908

3 жыл бұрын

@@wmosleycr7 sold my p4k and got s3, happy everyday...

A very personal view. Not considering that the sony has an unbeatable autofocus system. When you work mainly as a wedding filmer the sony will give you much better shots. :-)

@alexlester2834

3 жыл бұрын

Disagree. The BMPCC 6K trumps the A7Siii in terms of image quality, although you're bob on about the latter having the better AF system

The A7s III is way cheaper in the US, isn't it? Like $3,700 with tax.

@streetsmart3466

3 жыл бұрын

Mine was $3500 plus 8% sales tax.

6k ,12bit end of story

I like the video and info, but whatever camera you used to film this video sucks to be honest. It looks like a 25-year-old analog Canon XL1 tape video! It has no color, no contrast, is dark and distracting. If you are going to produce these videos please, invest into a proper camera to shoot them with. It looks like an old iPhone to be honest, and that is not a compliment.

Sony feels and looks like a goddamn toy.

Blah…. Sony kicks bmpcc ass