I know why hollowpoints don't expand. Won't stop me from watching the entire episode.

@cam3032

Жыл бұрын

Same here! I am calmed by Paul’s commentary, it’s like a warm hug from a heavy shooting jacket on a cold winters predawn hunting trip before the sun rises and the campfires coals are just barley smoking still from the previous night! So peaceful

@Zjwex

Жыл бұрын

Twice, even.

@notmrpronot3179

Жыл бұрын

Facts

@jdogg5763

9 ай бұрын

I don’t know why hollowpoints don’t expand. Won’t stop me from watching the entire episode.

@Adirondack_Accountability

3 ай бұрын

I will learn a thing or two.

As an OR RN at a level 1 trauma center, I've seen a lot of gunshot victims, and in cases where handgun hollowpoints were used, none of them expanded like shown in tests. In one case, a .45 hydrashock was recovered from a patients leg. It entered posterior mid thigh and ended up medially to the knee with just a hint of expansion. Not all bullets are removed, some are left based on location and risk of removal. But from the ones I've seen removed, or on XRAY, none performed as advertised. Maybe when hollowpoints work as intended, patients don't make it to surgery? Not sure.

@joshuagibson2520

Жыл бұрын

Most handguns don't operate at a high enough velocity to induce any expansion. Have you seen many rifle round wounds in your experience? Genuine question. Interested in your feedback.

@jstefa2

Жыл бұрын

survivers bias is a thing tbh. and you have a fair point there.

@noturfather1106

Жыл бұрын

I think you nailed it with that last part. Like when helmets were implemented in combat in ww1, injuries went up. But injuries only went up cause they otherwise would've been casualties without the helmets.

@edgarburlyman738

Жыл бұрын

So "they all fall to hard ball" geezers are right?

@jackhall290

Жыл бұрын

Off topic sort of, but on the notion of "survivor results vary" also from WW2, an engineering group took a look at the planes coming back riddled with bullet holes and they armored the sections that got all shot up and saw no improvement in returning plane numbers. A new head was added to the department who stopped armoring those sections and instead armored where the returning planes WERE NOT shot up.. and saw a massive improvement on surviving plane numbers.

Paul, PhD biochem and mol bio here. You absolutely used the terms "aqueous" and "gelatinous" correctly. Aqueous just means containing a majority of H2O, whereas gelatinous refers to an aqueous protein matrix like the ballistic gels used on other (lower quality) channels. 🙂

@mrchiefbs

Жыл бұрын

Science

@tombrown4683

Жыл бұрын

@molecularalchemy7798 in complete agreement especially concerning lower quality channels !

@Gottaculat

Жыл бұрын

"Try the gelatin; it's made from hooves, you know!"

@the_inquisitive_inquisitor

Жыл бұрын

I'm almost positive that a substance can be "gelatinous" without having any water.... Bet you $5 you could make a silicone based goo with some kind of protein-like structure

@markfergerson2145

Жыл бұрын

Considering the fact that the FBI established the gelatin standard, calling channels that feature gelatin block tests "lower quality" is *not* a slap at those channels...

Paul always goes into detail and explains things so the average Joe can understand. Thank you for your efforts and honesty Paul

@patriciaeich1098

Жыл бұрын

Even an average Jane can understand

@Arthurian.

Жыл бұрын

​@@patriciaeich1098 I think he's a good channel for women who want to really learn, without endless guy jokes.

@PhilBender612

Жыл бұрын

true, but Not for Joe Biden.🤣😆

Did anyone else see the deer jump out on Paul's right side about 40 yards behind him and walk through the forest @ 14:30? great explanation with a little wildlife to boot! Cheers!

@panzerdeal8727

4 ай бұрын

LOL..right on cue for the Marlin .444 Nice.

@danwhite2035

4 ай бұрын

Wow! Good eye! I dd not and was barely able to make it out when I went back to check it out.

@TimRoden

4 ай бұрын

I was wondering the same thing and looked in the comments to see if anyone mentioned it. 😅

@markcosby2448

3 ай бұрын

Came to find this comment

Excellent class today Professor Harrell. I've watched a lot of Guntubers over the years, you are the one I've stuck with. I'm sure there are many others who feel this way.

@tombrown4683

Жыл бұрын

100% Agree !!

@crazycoonass666

Жыл бұрын

Well, he's an instructor, he instructs. He doesn't shoot stuff just to watch it go blewy.

@markfergerson2145

Жыл бұрын

I watch different guntubers for different reasons. Paul and Gun Jesus for instance put out entirely different content but I watch both intently. I watch InRange for Karl's specific content. I watch taofledermaus strictly for fun.

I've been a gun owner since I was given a Ruger 10/22 at the age of 11. I've only ever owned guns for the purposes of hunting and plinking, never for anti-personnel/self defense purposes. I've recently moved to a fairly large city, and for the first time the thought of concealed carry seems like a good idea. This channel has been instrumental in my sidearm and ammunition choices. Thank you Paul for the practical information you put out. You've helped me tremendously.

@johngriffiths118

Жыл бұрын

“ on todays Forgotten Weapons , if Elbonia was to adopt a CCW what would they choose ? “

@Turd_Burglar804

Жыл бұрын

@@johngriffiths118 Probably the Mossberg Shockwave loaded with Aguila mini shells

@packletackle9047

Жыл бұрын

Strange time to move to a big city, most people are moving out of them

@co2gonzo

Жыл бұрын

Paul is one of the few Guntubers I watch religiously. I've learned far more in the last 5 years of watching his videos than in the preceding 23 years of being a gun owner. His "Dawn of Time" explanations and "Tedious Chronograph" sessions are some of my favorite aspects to his technique.

@robertgantry2118

Жыл бұрын

Guns have no business being around kids! Just kidding.

For a relatively young man, you give the impression you know whereof you speak. I'm impressed.

@Salieri47

Жыл бұрын

Mid to late fifties is relatively young?

Whenever Paul says “you’re going to have to listen to me talk and talk and ramble on for the dawn of time explanation”, or something like that, who else besides me goes and pops a bag of popcorn to excitedly sit down and really listen to what he has to say?

I always enjoy how Paul refers to these collegiate level courses as presentations. Keep up the great work.

Thanks for making the Why Hollow Points Fail to Expand video.

How is Paul Harrell so low on subscribers? He's not for everyone, because he's not Tacticool, but he should be at a couple million at least for the quality of his content! SMASH THAT LIKE BUTTON PEOPLE & help Paul out!!!

@SushiArmageddon

Жыл бұрын

I enjoy his videos but he does indirectly shame people that would most benefit from the information. Some of his impressions etc. seem passive aggressive to me. Tolerable and better than tacticool yokels? In my opinion yes but I could see some people getting turned off by his communication style.

@riflemanm16a2

Жыл бұрын

I’ve been watching him for a few years and just realized I wasn’t subscribed. I’m not sure if I forgot to subscribe or if YT unsubscribed me. It really makes no difference to me though because I still get recommended his videos, and I have so many subscriptions after 17 years that I don’t even look at my subscription feed.

@Eagle-eye-pie

Жыл бұрын

@@SushiArmageddon Paul does moan a bit too much about his detractors, but he is the gun tuber I watch the most, guess I’m getting grumpy as I get older too lol.

@SushiArmageddon

Жыл бұрын

@@Eagle-eye-pie I like him in general so Im not complaining just offering my perspective. Im only 32 and Im already a grumpy old man myself.

@karimmoop9560

Жыл бұрын

He doesn't do any promos or sponsorships that's why

Wow. It's so weird. I normally comment something, if I have anything of remote value to offer, but in this case, I just felt an almost odd need to just say "thank you". Thank you for the video. Thank you for your time. Thank you for giving us something that's equal parts entertaining, informative, thought provoking, and so on. There's much to be appreciative of in these presentations. However I wasn't expecting to see the amount of other people also saying thank you for various other reasons. This is easily one of the more polite and pleasant little communities to interact with, so seeing a bunch of you people being nice to each other isn't odd, but the specific amount of commenters who's purpose is to say thank you seems markedly higher in this one. Weird how that happens. I know that there is some kind of element of shared consciousness. Almost like a radio signal that we're all tuned in to. Even though I've been aware of that for many years, it still surprises me in a way when I see it reveal itself in such a manner.

@StillMansa

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@JL-mj5hk

Жыл бұрын

Once people find something they like, they likely have a similar mindset to what they are viewing. Sadly, it took me a while to find Paul; I've only been watching for the last 2-3 years. I wish I had found him earlier!

I love how when he says we have to listen to him talk, even after all that gunfire, the deer come into the background to listen. I don't know, maybe they're taking notes to better survive hunting season? I really love Paul's videos, even though so many of them tend to be outside of what shooting I may do with my 9mm 4.07" barrel or my 20 gauge with #8 birdshot, I still feel that I'm always going to learn something from them, and that something may save my life one day. Thank you, Paul. Your videos are great, informative, and presented such that we, the audience can really understand what you are saying and doing, as well as understand not only the result, but the *why* of the result. You rock, sir!

@mrelectron6220

Жыл бұрын

Sontar I was wondering if anyone else saw the deer I counted 3 one way off in the back ground one about mid and one close just looking like what's Paul talking about again.

@MikhaelAhava

Жыл бұрын

I honestly can’t quite see with my phone and low resolution. My phone can go HD but I stick to 360p as it’s much more reasonable on a smaller screen, unless I need to read smaller details. I’ve seen some in other videos, but this one, I didn’t see.

@T4nkcommander

Жыл бұрын

Hello fellow 20 gauge user!

@mattstephens962

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it was cool seeing the deer in the background 👍

@thisismagacountry1318

Жыл бұрын

It's a Disney film

CCI Speer used to have an excellent website for law enforcement listing all the ammo they make with expansion and penetration data, including penetration through windshields, car bodies, plywood and drywall. Example: Their 9mm Gold Dot didn't expand through a car trunk but did go on to penetrate a ballistic dummy in the back seat and the person in the front seat before lodging in the dashboard. The same style bullet would expand to 0.6" in jell and stop in 14" .

@johnshields9110

Жыл бұрын

I remember that Speer site! One of my older brothers started seriously testing bullet performance 55 years ago when Speer came out with a 90 grain hot load for the 38 Special. He did a lot of testing on junked cars, but finding bounce back could be a problem on projectiles on such targets. Those 90 grs would not reliably penertrat car doors.

@chuckhaggard1584

Жыл бұрын

Also no JHP expands after sheet metal, because the initial impact closes the hollow point.

@redtra236

Жыл бұрын

@@johnshields9110 I'm guessing thats especially true on what was presumably 1940s-50s era cars(55 years ago was 1968). It might do a little better on some newer cars with thinner sheet metal.

@johnshields9110

Жыл бұрын

@@redtra236 Very likely true! The car doors in those days all had band of metal horizontally to support the doors mechanism. In the mid '70's, I know first hand a Sheriff off duty only had a J Frame so loaded, and rolled to the ground under a car door and empitied it up through the door bottom and luckily a bullet fragment hit a bad man somewhere that made him bleed a bit. I totally abandoned lighter 38 loads after that. Thanks for the reply. I carry that 130 Winchester HP that is supposed to be a top defensive load now.

@JD-tn5lz

4 ай бұрын

​@@chuckhaggard1584after a career in LE, much of it as a use-of-force investigator, you are absolutely, positively, dead- on... WRONG. Hard barriers May crush the petals, usually doesn't many factors involved. However, your blanket statement is about as wrong as can be as blanket statements. Now drywall and wood? Much more likely to prevent soft tissue expansion, not because it damages the petals, because it fills the cavity and turns the HP bullet into an FMJ, practically speaking.

Woot storytime with Paul Harrell

"And it requires a Dawn of Time explanatoin." Ok, Mr. Harrell, you hold on a sec and let me get a mug of tea, I'll be right back to listen intently.

I have been reloading close to 20 years and have a lot of knowledge in this subject by my own testing of different calibers and different types and brands projectiles. In a reloading manual it will show how much FPS you must obtain for that bullet to perform and it is specific to pistol and rifle barrel lengths written right in the book for that cartridge, but Paul hit this right on the head👌

@the_inquisitive_inquisitor

Жыл бұрын

Even with sufficient velocity, you need a good impact to get "perfect expansion" A lot of the time you don't get "good shots" in self-defense situations; you shoot until the problem goes away.

@rsluggy6485

Жыл бұрын

I beat you to the handloading game by a factor of 2, but what made me go to handloading in the first place was a particularly poor example of projectile performance. A buddy and I were out shooting and I tried my new 45 ACP pistol against a variety of plastic bottles filled with water. One was a comparitively thick walled bottle, some kind of carpet shampoo I think. It was red. My Blazer 45 ACP load not only did not blow the bottle up as expected, but failed to penetrate the bottle at all, simply knocking it down really hard. The bullet shed its jacket and a bit of that jacket bounced back and hit me in the leg, feeling for all the world like a bug strike at street speeds; I could tell I got hit, but it was completely nonconsequential. I found the copper jacket fragment on the ground at my feet. My first handloads, on the other hand (185g jacketed hollow point propelled by 6.5 or so grains of Unique), provided the expected bottle rupture and "explosion". I kept the red bottle specifically to test again with my handloaded ammo. In the years since, I still load for performance, but now mostly for minimum recoil while meeting power factor for IDPA and USPSA competition. I *did* load some pretty hot Power Pistol 40S&W loads that made IDPA power factor out of a 3.1" barrel. They were gloriously loud and flashy.

@richsadventure9736

Жыл бұрын

@@the_inquisitive_inquisitor that is a very true statement because someone can come at you in all different sizes and many ways, so it's not like it's going to be a set distance and stationary target, same goes for hunting.

@rexlr695

Жыл бұрын

Love the car. TransAms and LSx motors are a world I love. lol Sorry, totally off topic, but recognized the car immediately in the picture.

As much as I feel I know the answer to this question, I have no question that I'm going to learn a lot from this video

@Dogglegg

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. It is like Paul is reading my mind. Wondering how 115, 124, 147 grain 9mm will perform from my 3” pistols.

@joshuagibson2520

Жыл бұрын

@@Dogglegg don't take anyone's word. Test it out.

@Dogglegg

Жыл бұрын

@@joshuagibson2520 Ok, mak'n meat targets... So, now wondering if they will let me shoot 'em at the indoor range.🤔

When I was in college I had a professor who said "Statistics don't lie, but statisticians do"

You can really show hollow-point clogging if you shoot thru paper or books. Now, I know people are not going to walk around with metro phone books taped to themselves, and I know I'm dating myself when I mention the words "phone books".

Your testing protocol discussion reminded me of government employee training. The tests are designed so that you are going to pass no matter what you know.

Thanks Paul. Awesome, just the right amount of Sarcasm ... and to the point. Cheers 🙏

Excellent presentation, Paul. Another reason a hollow point might not expand properly, is that sometimes they can tumble around backwards when entering tissue. This can be due to unstable flight or glancing off of a bone just under the skin.

PH is absolutely the best at explaining and providing useful information in an engaging manner. I bet he could talk about almost any topic and still be a star.

8:40 with a full lesson, plus 20 minutes to look forward to!

Keeping my eyes out for deer . Paul we are here to hear u ramble 🫡

If the camera SNAFUs were battery-related, it's probably cool weather interfering with the battery performance. Keeping the spare batteries in a pocket or under your jacket can keep them warm enough to get more performance out of them.

@wayupnort6271

Жыл бұрын

His pockets are full of GUNS! 😁👍

Paul, can you please do a video on rifle slings? Different types, how to mount them, how to use them properly, etc? I love your work and I’m happy to support you on Patreon. It’s well worth the knowledge I’ve learned from watching your videos the last few years. Thank you!

Hey Paul, thanks for reaching out to us regarding this matter., great video 😊

This is one thing I appreciate about the The Buffalo Bore ammunition. They test their ammunition in "real world" firearms. My chronographs over the years have demonstrated that Buffalo Bore ammo lives up to or slightly exceeds their advertised velocities. I don't agree with some of the viewpoints of Buffalo Bore's owner on other topics but who cares? Their ammunition is high quality and extremely reliable. I have absolutely no reason to promote Buffalo Bore ammunition other than it lives up to what it's clamed to be! I use it in Ruger Redhawk, GP100'S , and Super Blackhawks because they can handle this full potential 357 and 44 Magnum loads all day. Is their ammo more effective for a given purpose? I have no clue. I'm confident that their heavy hardcast gas-checked stutff is about as good as one can do for bear protection in magnum revolvers. Yes there are bears where I camp and hike.

26:55. Love seeing the deer in the background. Thanks for another excellent video.

Very valuable content as always. Also, I'm really digging the "spot the deer in the background" game in all the recent videos.

I am in firm belief that not only do the manufacturers know exactly what they're doing with misleading ammo claims they in fact pay a lot of money to people to specifically do it.

@Ovokor

Жыл бұрын

I also hold that belief.

@eloiseharbeson2483

Жыл бұрын

I haven't been very impressed with Remington ammunition. It seems that none I have used actually lived up to its numbers.

@Miazger

Жыл бұрын

Stating max possible velocity of the cardridge without disclosing barrel length is common practice Only high quality munitions sometimes correct reastic values since margin is so high it's worth sticking to the facts

@raulthepig5821

11 ай бұрын

You cannot believe marketing people. As a development engineer I've worked with Marketing personnel. As an Engineer I needed honest data. You will never get that from a sales person. And all marketing people are is sales people. All you will ever get is hype. They may not lie to you but you will never get the full story. So like Paul has demonstrated you will need to test your ammo yourself in as realistic conditions as you might expect you would encounter.

@sgtbones1837

10 ай бұрын

This makes me want to carry 45 230 gr fmj.

8:48 “We’re out on our *range* today, so please bear with any skinwalker screams you may hear in the background.”

Watching Paul drop knowledge bombs is a Sunday well spent.

The deer at 14:18 - 14:38 ... Oregon is quite beautiful!

This channel is always number 1 in terms of the thoroughness of its analysis and the practicality of its approach. Can't say enough good words about it.

Nice looking deer at 14:19. And the rest of the herd at 26:37.

Miwall is a staple of the Crossroads of the West gun shows here in Phoenix/Arizona (I don't know about other areas). They sell a huge variety of ammo from various manufacturers. I also believe they do (or did) "remanufacture" their own line of ammo. So, if that's the case, then essentially you had reloads using XTP projectiles, not 'factory' ammunition. By reloading with less powder but using "premium" projectiles, they can increase their margin on the sale. Caveat Emptor, to be sure.

Mr. Paul Harrell, Been watching /listening /learning from you for years (nearly decades it seems). ALWAYS enjoyed your work! ALWAYS learned something! ALWAYS impressed by your efforts! BUT, somehow, this episode REALLY stood out, to me, as to the complexity of your preparation, execution! THANK YOU Paul Harrell!! Stay with us as long as possible! God grant you peace knowing that you contributed greatly to your fellow citizens! 😊😊😊

Weirdly I’ve bought Winchester White Box hollow points as blaster ammo for practice and feeding. Turns out it’s also really decent and expands quite reliably.

@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz

Жыл бұрын

I bought a bunch of WWB 147 JHP a while ago. They cycle my guns (meaning my carry guns) perfectly and my expectations on ballistic performance from handguns is low anyway.

Hey Paul, it was good to see you at the gun show yesterday, thanks for signing my improvised holster.

This was an outstanding presentation. Paul Harrell demonstrated that hollow point expansion happens due to a combination of multiple conditions with bullet design (hollow point construction) being only one factor. I've read other experts claim that expanding bullets were three times as effective as non-expanding bullets--and that the difference between an expanding bullet that works as advertised and a non-expanding bullet is only about 10%. That's just expansion. Then there's penetration--the bullet has to penetrate deeply enough to inflict damage to something that the organism can't live without. As with real estate the three most important items are location, location, location! If the bullet doesn't hit, the bullet has no effect--the NOISE may have effect but not the bullet. That bullet has to hit something important, penetrating deeply enough and damaging the vitals.

Thank yoy for your time and effort to inform and entertain us.

Thanks Paul, for taking the time to actually read and respond to all of our (no doubt sometimes inane) questions that get sent to you. These always make fairly informative videos. What's assumed to be common knowledge by some may be completely new information to others.

Thank You Paul and Crew.

Fabulous presentation. Thanks Paul.

Solid content . PH puts a great deal of effort and science into his presentations. I enjoy how he trained that deer to walk around in the background. Excellent range location PH. More please!

Very informative. Thank you, Paul. Your research is very helpful !!!

Great video. Thanks Paul!

I'm so used to seeing deer in the background that I'm actually disappointed at not seeing them.

I have learned so much from this man. His testing and demonstrations are amazing. Thank you Sir for all your hard work and time. You are very appreciated!

Thank you Paul Harrell for all your valuable information you provided for us

sleazy advert: "Are your hollow points not expanding like they used to? It could be caused by _low T_ as you get older."

Another excellent presentation!

Nice one, Paul - I think this is one of your best videos, of late. Ammo comparisons and tests are useful and somewhat interesting, but this one really ties all those others together nicely!

What an excellent (and fair minded) discussion of factors that influence hollow point expansion, or lack thereof. Back in the "old days", meaning before chronographs were within reach of almost everyone, ammo maker "shenanigans" were on full display, including testing carried out using longer than standard laboratory test barrels that were not found in any actual handgun. These were designed to cater to the "faster is always better" crowd. Most of my testing over the years has been done with law enforcement and defense cartridges. I'd like to recognize the people at Federal and Speer, since the early 90's, who have used actual common law enforcement firearms for their testing, and who have always readily disclosed to me what they used as test firearms in common calibers. This may have been a function of me being a law enforcement officer at the time, and I honestly don't know if they are as forthcoming with other customers. One thing I have noted about them is that they take input from LE agencies and tweak loads based on that input, such that for example, a load might be reduced a bit based on the ability of officers to handle recoil or even muzzle flash, and armorer reports of wear on firearms. So, their LE oriented loads may not always be the hottest rounds you can buy. But since the LE rounds are all tested on the FBI protocols, their results are quite easy to replicate, and I have found their representations pf performance to be highly reliable. Another point to consider that is not made often is that most American Eagle and Speer Lawman loads are designed as practice analogs for duty rounds, just without an expanding projectile, lacquer sealing, or flash suppressed powders. So if your HST or Gold Dot loads have been "tamed" a bit for duty use, you will typically find your AE and Lawman loads in the same bullet weight have been as well. In this regard, I can only speak to their loads intended for law enforcement use. Other loads not intended for LE duty guns may behave differently. A good example was the Federal HST 150 grain 9mm load. This load was designed for use in the very popular 9mm micro pistols where reduced recoil was a priority. These behaved nothing like HST LE loads, and to my knowledge were not evaluated with the full FBI battery of FBI tests in mind. I'm also impressed that Federal and Speer sponsor field wound ballistic workshops for LE agencies in which they bring out the proper equipment to demonstrate their products or to test what the agency might be using. In the first one I attended, my agency was using a Winchester Ranger 155 grain .40 S&W load. After testing, the Federal rep told me, "While we'd love to have you switch to our products, I can't honestly tell you that what we offer is better than what you already have. You are using very good ammunition". I truly appreciated this level of honesty. I have no reason to suspect that Winchester is not as honest about their LE products, I just have not had as much experience with their cartridges. My sense is that today, the major makers of LE ammo are not in the business of lying to their customers, while some of the smaller makers might still engage in a few shenanigans. On the other hand there are some boutique makers such as Underwood who are very honest about what they offer as well. Buffalo Bore even specifies on their website the velocities they get from specific firearms. Overall it seems to be a good time to be choosing defense ammo in terms of knowing what you are getting. Here is a link to FBI test results published for common LE cartridges by Federal and Speer. When I was working, I was able to replicate a lot of these tests, and got very similar results with duty length firearms. People might find this interesting, especially the ability to compare cartridges side by side. le.vistaoutdoor.com/wound_ballistics/load_comparison/load_comparison.aspx

Excellent and very informational presentation, Paul. Thanks !

Keep up the research & excellent insights about the results. Thank you.

Excellent video. Hollow point expansion or lack there of, has always been a point of concern for me. You've cleared up and explained away a lot.

Thank you for putting this topic into “layman’s “ terms! Have wondered for years why some HP’s expand and some don’t. Everyone needs to take their fire arm with their chosen ammo and test as Paul does and make appropriate changes if necessary for what each individual is looking to accomplish. Thanks Paul and crew!

Great video Paul. Very informative. Thank you.

Thank you Paul and team. I appreciate your efforts.

Thank you for this video. Never thought I would be so entertained and informed about this subject. It was nice to meet you yesterday at the Rickreall gun show. Very polite and gracious.

@tombrown4683

Жыл бұрын

@patriciaeich1098, wish I could have been there. I met Paul once in passing but due to circumstances it was brief. Not surprised he was gracious.

The obsolete Federal Nyclad hollow point expanded very well. Speer used to make a semi jacketed kieth style hollow point with exposed lead that expanded well. My experience with these projectiles showed that soft nose bullets in 357 and 44 have a problem penetrating hard targets like car bodies. The ideal for me is the hard cast kieth style semi wadcutter with a gas check that can be driven to magnum velocities. If cast correctly correctly it has a sharp shoulder that cuts a good wound canal and gives excellent penetration. These bullets would succeed in penetrating car bodies if hardened properly. See LEAD BULLET TECHNOLOGY, in moyea springs Idaho.

Excellent presentation Paul!

Thanks Paul, another excellent and informative showing as usual. Great job.

Once again, excellent video with a great lesson on the subject, and looking forward to another Easter demonstration.

@Lexicologist1971

Жыл бұрын

Thanksgiving and Christmas are also awesome!

@tombrown4683

Жыл бұрын

Me too !!!

Speed doesn't kill. Stopping quickly does that.

@SavageAirguns

Жыл бұрын

Speed and hardness of round does defeat armor... so in some cases it's the only way to kill an armored target

As a retired LEO with 30 years, I have personal experience with 9mm zipping through a person. Clean in and out with no expansion. Two different bullet makes, mine was a Black Talon and my partners was a Gold Dot. People are not gel blocks or stacks of magazines and so many variables and scenarios. Enjoy all of your videos.

Another great video. Explained so well and thoroughly. Thanks Paul.

Overexpansion is definitely a thing. I remember watching Military Arms Channel doing a gel test with .45 Super and got insufficient penetration with a really widely expanded projectile, likely because the bullet manufacturer loaded it with a .45 ACP hollow point designed to expand normally at much lower velocity.

@nigeltheoutlaw

Жыл бұрын

It's also common in a lot of the solid copper hollow points on the market. Amazing expansion, better than lead cored hollow points, but usually penetrating 7-10 inches as a result.

@matthewdiehl1647

Жыл бұрын

Hey I saw that video too. I think I remember that it was a Hornady 230 grain xtp loaded in a .45 super loading and only penetrated 8 inches. I was really surprised by that. It was insightful. Wish I could remember the velocities.

This is a great presentation. It should be a mandatory watch for all bullet and cartridge manufacturers of self-defense intended ammo. There are some manufactures that now list velocities and barrel length tested, not many and not enough. Some handgun bullets need +P velocities (whatever that is these days) to reach expansion threshold, XTP's being one, others will do so from a 3"-ish barrel without the hyped +P velocities, I've discovered a few. I used to handload my defense cartridges, an attorney advised using what LE uses or some king of commercially produced ammo to avoid the question, " So you were thinking about shooting someone when you were making the ammunition?" Objection sustained but seed planted in the jurors mind. The answer to that would, by design and purpose, be "uhh, yeah" and there you are.

Excellent presentation as always 👍👍👍

Thanks for your time good sir.

Great.👍 That really lays it out. Bullet design (and testing) has come a long way, but it’s still not an exact science. When I started handgunning and loading in the mid 1970’s, we didn’t have many choices. I shot into whatever I had, wood, duct seal (oil based clay), water, wet pack (newspaper & magazines THOROUGHLY soaked for at least a day before being hauled to the range), and I learned as much about test mediums as about bullets. I’m very interested in the new handgun bullet designs that claim to transmit hydrostatic shock without expanding (Lehigh Defense, Underwood Ammo), and wonder how far this concept can be developed. Hats off to you for tackling this subject.

Hey Paul I've been a long time watcher and I always enjoy your content. I also really appreciate your point of view and the fact that you keep it professional and your videos aren't filled with vulgarity! You show people that you can have great content and every other word you say doesn't have to be the F word or GD. Thank you and keep it up!

@Adam-kr8wy

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damn

@dareisnogod5711

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Are you anti-profanity? Slouch.

@dylanjamessparks

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Kinda fucking cool eh?

It's Nice that i can watch Paul's new Video while enjoying my Morning Coffee

Wow.. I loved this presentation, thanks for the effort Paul!

The human body is not ballistic gel. In a real fight, nothing is going to work as planned. With a pistol, you are going to need multiple hits in vital areas to stop someone unless you just get lucky. It does not work the way you see it in the movies. Stay safe everyone.

It's mostly about the velocity. When someone asks me if a certain bullet is good for deer hunting I always say it depends. A 140 grain nosler accubond may not be best choice for a 6.5 creedmore at long distance. Just like a 150 grain nosler ballistic tip might no be the best choice for a 300 win mag at close range.

I do a lot of this kind of thing just for fun and have for years . But I still love watching your tests . Very informative .

I just had this video autoplay and never heard of you Paul, but after watching video I subbed. Love the format and that you provide real information.

Paul such a badass that even the deer want to hang out with him!👍

As always great knowledge Paul. Also as we all know Paul has 8 pockets, and 15 guns on hand at all times!

Another amazing video, Paul. Thank you so much.

As usual, an in depth and quality video from Paul. Thanks!

There's some interesting choices of test guns when you read fine print on ballistics charts, like just about everyone is using a 4" barrel Walther PP for their .25 acp, .32 acp and.380 acp even though the vast majority of those are in sub 3" in typical guns and maybe even sub2" on .25s Paul mentioned the 24" .30-30 .45 colt is typically a 7.5" SAA even though most people's SAA or knockoff thereof are going to be 4.75" or 5.5" and probably the most common.45 colt platforms these days are 3" Taurus Judge. I've seen a 8" artillery Luger used as the test gun for exceptionally optimistic velocity 9x19

You suggest unrealistic or improper testing protocol. I suggest no testing was done at all, that just increases cost and decreases profit margins.

Excellent! Thank You!

Paul your videos are the only ones I watch all the way through , you are a great teacher !

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Well my father experienced this low or no expansion on his .45 dum-dums rounds during Korea. These were FMJ with cuts. Big and slow ,he would be happy with the abundance of silencers.

Looking good Paul! Great video as always

Thanks, Paul, very informative!

Everyone: " Why don't hollow points expand?" Paul Harrell: " This one does quite well. Just like yo mama did back in the day. Welcome home son" Underwood: " We have ammunition for that. Ask yo mama about our penetration. We call them defenders"

@allenlindsey1175

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Hahahaa

@Derna1804

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"We call this jacketed hollow point "Yo Mama" because when she gets her clothes off it ain't pretty and her expansion performance is proven."

No Pop Tarts?????

Lots of good info, as always. Thank you, Paul!

Nicely presented, Paul. Well done!