He is the perfect example of when disney got the "From underdog to hero" story right. And they actually did it well in this movie, unlike how it's nowadays oversaturated.

@DraconXCreations

Жыл бұрын

They did it extremely well in my opinion too, it's gold compared to what Disney does now

@tobsonasanya4765

Жыл бұрын

Eh

Hercules has a great arc. He has to learn what being a hero is really about. He thinks it’s about receiving praise for good deeds, but learns that it’s about valuing others over yourself. He also learns the lesson without having it spelled out to him. He takes action to save Meg from dying in the Underworld, regardless of whether or not he might die. He’s an active protagonist that we can root for.

Love that meg could've been a flat character but they didn't & gave her layers & that's more reason why i love her💜💜💜

@austincarlson9270

8 ай бұрын

My pfp speaks for itself on how much i agree

One aspect I always appreciated about Hercules in this film is how he starts off as being shunned for his gift of strength and how being clumsy makes people fear him and mark him as an outcast. Growing up, although I did not have the strength of gods, I was still unusually strong for my age, so I would at times get into situations where I ended up hurting people because of it. I wasn't doing it on purpose, but my strength combined with my clumsiness made me not very popular among other children and even older kids picked fights with me just because of my reputation of being strong. It was honestly a very lonely experience. Of all the Disney movies from the 90s, I related the most with Hercules because of his struggles of dealing with this very thing. It was nice seeing him take those aspects of himself that gave him such grief growing up by becoming someone that could use those gifts for good. Not my favourite Disney movie, but it holds a special place in my heart because of this.

Idk about the part with Simba or Quasimodo. His problem with trauma is that he doesn’t want to address it or deal with it, same for his responsibilities. Speaking of which, him being lazy because it’s been fostered by others is still a character flaw. Him being arrogant as a child because he’s spoiled is still a flaw that he grows out of making him more watchable. These are all gone when he decides to go back home, it’s an arc. He’s not unstoppable, he’s weak as a child and struggles against the less physically dominant and older scar. For Quasimodo, him being way too forgiving is a character flaw because he’s basically brainwashed by Frollo, in fact I’d argue he refused to harm Frollo because he’s one of the very few people he loved. But Hunkules is better no question

I would argue that Belle has an arc that isn’t always noted. She learns that the Beast is more than a monster and that there’s a chance for him to redeem himself.

Meg was my first Disney crush lol 😂 loved her song the most.

@herrikudo

Жыл бұрын

Crazy that they almost didnt have it in the movie. It was almost a completely different song.

@multifandom5942

Жыл бұрын

Same me too. Still have a crush on her every time I watch the movie tbh. They didn't have to give her lahers and a background. They could've made her a flat character but they didn't & that's more reason i love meg

@questworldiangreenknight7455

Жыл бұрын

@@herrikudo what?! I never knew that!!! 😮

@questworldiangreenknight7455

Жыл бұрын

@@multifandom5942 agreed. She’s a lot more complicated than a lot of other Disney females and is probably the only one I can ever recall working directly with the villain.

@multifandom5942

Жыл бұрын

@@questworldiangreenknight7455 yep me too.

"This character [Judy Hopps] gives you the message that it's okay for the police to be in bed with criminals, and to break the law..." Wrong. The rodent mob boss and Judy aren't building a rapport with one another. The mob boss doesn't even have anything to do with the antagonist of the film. The only reason he helps Judy is because she did a good deed for his daughter. The message of selective policing and reckless abuse of power is an underlying one that we can rewatch and reinterpret as adults, but the message that is intentionally portrayed in this scene is this: good deeds pay off in the long run.

@thelionalex1697

Ай бұрын

Although...it would have been interesting if the "help" the mob offered to Juddy Hopps was accepted only that one time. They are then arrested and questioned for their crimes. Because after giving a clue to our protagonist couple, the rodent mafia disappears from the footage. They return at the end of the movie to help again... only to disappear again. We didn't see the end of it. We do not have anything. NOTHING.

Hercules is such an amazing character. It's refreshing to have a pure male protagonist and a pessimistic female lead. It's too bad that the changes made to the OG stoty made Greece prevent it from being released there--but I get it.

Hercules is the ROMAN name for Heracles, which is the original Greek version. And his name was originally Alcydies. He changed his name to Heracles after he killed his wife and children when Hera drove him insane. The name ''Heracles'' means ''Glory through Hera.''

@ravengrey6874

6 ай бұрын

TBF, there is a lot in the movie that isn't represented accurately

@cerene11

3 күн бұрын

@@ravengrey6874 Yeah like the fact Hera wasn't Hercules' mom. Or the fact Hades didn't have beef with Hercules. Or that Zeus was a huge asshole in the original mythology. But this is a Disney movie and they made a different story that works on its own.

I snorted when you called him dumb as a rock. Lol he totally is. But his heart is big and pure as gold, so I gotta love him

I have no idea why this movie was recieved as poorly as it was. Perhaps it was the timing, suffering the same as Atlantis and Treasure Planet when being viewed through the lens of the musical hits from the years previous, it was too different from what people were expecting from Disney though I enjoyed it when it came out on VHS ("What. Are. Those?!?!"). The songs were catchy, the story decent, the jokes quotable, the characters were relatable enough to be engaging and most of the voice cast was spot on. James Woods is perfect for this take on Hades ("Lord of the dead. Hi how're you doing?") and this is a hill I will die on.

@Zacman1123

Жыл бұрын

It might be because it came after Pocahontas and that movie was badly received (deserving so), and that soured a lot of people to Disney after that point. Hence why DreamWorks was able to pop up when they did.

@roguebarbarian9133

Жыл бұрын

@@Zacman1123 I had never heard that Pocahontas was poorly received, but a quick google search showed that it did receive mixed reviews from critics. It's so weird, because I always thought it was considered a Disney classic.

@Zed-ti9uj

27 күн бұрын

​@@roguebarbarian9133 Many people did. But Pocahontas and Hunchback are considered the low points of the Renaissance.

Love this movie so much. My favorite animated Disney movie. So underrated but so freaking good.💜💜💜

I think I can agree even before it premieres- I geniunely think the same when I saw the movie ngl here.

Bless my soul, herc was on a roll

This is why Hercules is such a perfect role model for Sora in KH as well. Sora also similarly doesn't think much and lets his strength do most of the talking. Could even say they have a similar character arc as well Also thank god someone else agrees about Zootopia, hate that movie's "protagonists" with a passion

One of my favorite animation details is Hercs body language on his date with Meg. Look how careful and gentle he is around her.

I don't agree with Quasimodo being flawless, he was very tempted to harm Phoebus but he didn't because he saw how much Esmeralda was happy. I letted Sly Cinderella, Belle and Simba because: -with Cinderella I actually think that she has less personality than Snow White. -Belle is like Paddington and Sonic the Hedgehog a static character that doesn't change much throu out the runtime but that is compelling nonetheless because of how she changes those around her. -Simba is the one I am most iffy about calling flawless but I let it sly because most of his most notable flaws were in his childhood so only the first half of the movie and I can also see your point of view. That being said I do think that one major flaw of Simba is it's stubborness and that doesn't get resolved until the Rafiki scene. With all that said, in regards to your video I think that the best Disney protagonist is Kuzco from the Emperor New Groove, but I agree on Hercules being the best Disney hero.

One, I love the video! But two, I one hundred percent agree with the criticism of Zootopia! I literally have had so many complaints about this movie since it came out and i’m glad SOMEBODY is finally going to talk about it in a way that isn’t just overly praising it! 😭

I love Hercules! He’s so pure and lovable and strong. And it’s super epic when he comes out of the River Styx with Meg’s ghost.

I wouldn't call Hercules stupid. Clusmy, naive, dorky and clueless maybe but not stupid.

@tijanamilenkovic3425

2 ай бұрын

Hercules is Goku of Disney ❤

I wanted to see Hercules compared to Aladdin

I'd love to hear what you think of Aladdin as a protagonist.

This channel is massively underrated

A very great take, honestly. But also.... I DIDN'T KNOW ELLA WAS CINDERELLA'S REAL NAME!!!-_>!$>_$]%!_>$

It's been so long since I've seen Hercules... It's not one of my top favorites, but it is one i look back on fondly

When an evil threat meets the embodiment optimistic stupidity

You said Simba was "arrogant, lazy and petty" in the "Be Prepared" analysis video, but now you say two of those three traits aren't flaws. Which is it, then?

It breaks my heart seeing nostaligia critic and (used to be called) nostalgia chick dissing on this movie. The different elements clash? What are they talking about? It's an amazing combination of so many elements, and it is phenomenal that they all work together.

I am just gonna say this, being without a massive or visual character flaw is not by default bad. It is bad when such a character doesn't work in the story. Also Belle is petty, views her provincial life as something to leave (which points to being massively disatified over having the things that matter and only that, and a lack of gratitude for what she has), she's also passive-aggressive especially when treating Beast's (I think his actual name is Adam) wounds after the fight with the wolves, and she is overly curious (going into the West wing when told not too) it might not be as narratively shaking like say making a deal with the devil to save your crush who you only dated once, but it is a flaw

@jeffreygao3956

Жыл бұрын

Nah, Belle is awesome. It’s GASTON who’s petty.

Musker and Clements: Thanks bro

When are you going to review Death from Puss in Boots The Last Wish? He'd be a great villain or antagonist to review. He's what Dreamworks needed after so long.

@speedracer2008

Жыл бұрын

I’d say Big Jack Horner is another villain we’d been waiting a long time to see. A villain who’s evil purely for the sake of it.

My favorite Disney Heroes are: 1# Simba 2# Aladdin 3# Quasimodo 4# Hercules 5# Tarzan 6# Milo Thatch 7# Jim Hawkins 8# Kenai 9# Robin Hood 10# Jack Skellington 11# Wart 12# Peter Pan 13# Dumbo 14# Bambi 15# Pinocchio 16# Mowgli 17# Chicken Little 18# Lewis Robinson 19# Bolt 20# Wreck-it Ralph 21# Hiro Hamada 22# Winnie the Pooh 23# Mickey Mouse 24# Roger Rabbit 25# Kermit Frog 26# Dusty Crophopper 27# Woody 28# Flik 29# Sulley 30# Nemo 31# Mr. incredible 32# Lightning Mcqueen 33# Remy 34# Carl Fredricksen 35# Miguel Rivera 36# Phineas Flynn 37# Dipper Pines 38# Buzz Lightyear 39# Milo Murphy 40# Cornelius Fillmore 41# TJ Detweiler 42# Wander 43# Randy Cunningham 44# Fix-it Felix 45# Tod 46# Basil 47# Oswald 48# ichabod Crane 49# Johnny Appleseed 50# Mr. Toad 51# Cyril Proudbottom 52# Water Rat 53# Mole 54# Casey 55# Gauchito 56# Pecos Bill 57# Ben Ali Gator 58# Paul Bunyan 59# Tin Toy 60# Snowman 61# Lou 62# Volcano 63# Presto 64# Geri 65# Fry 66# Peter Griffin 67# Stan Smith 68# Manny 69# Blu 70# Ferdinand 71# Horton 72# Rodney 73# Diego 74# Rafael 75# Fender 76# Mcdodd 77# Yen Sid 78# Aracuan Bird 79# Panchito Pistoles 80# Practical 81# Fiddler 82# Fifer 83# Elmer Elephant 84# Willie Whale 85# Woodlore 86# Jose Carioca 87# Scrooge Mcduck 88# Darkwing Duck 89# Goliath 90# Zummi Gummi 91# Monterey Jack 92# Bonkers D. Bobcat 93# Chip 94# Dale 95# Zipper 96# Kit Cloudkicker 97# Jack Sparrow 98# Tron 99# Aslan 100# Edmund

Did the Disney Quasimodo even know Frollo tried to murder him as a baby? I don't remember him knowing that part, at least not during the beginning of the movie.

haha didn't even think about the fallout of Judy Hopps actions in Zootopia. Can't wait to see you tear it apart.

this movie is hilarious it's so underrated

Hercules isn't that dumb he knows math he Young teen in movie, he knows emotions making deal with hadles.

I love this video, and honestly hercules is one of my favourite characters, but i have to say I disagreed with you when you used Cinderella as an example of her being a boring character. She has been abused since she was a child, so there wasn't much that could be done for her to have flaws. She had to survive day in and out , And her kindness was her escape route. You can't really make room for flaws or even strengths when you're literally being abused ... Also in Simbas case ,i get that he has no flaws , but again for him to grow out of that trauma and take his place as king is character development. Even if we take Belle who is considered so perfect, she literally loses her dad in the same night and is imprisoned with this beast. However she is able to slowly see past that and see him for who he truly is. My point is its not necessary for protagonists to have flaws to get over to be well rounded characters or to be relatable. They are still very much real and it is a joy to see them overcome these situations.. Overall great video❤

I know that we're talking about heroes, but this has to be said: Hades is by far among the cream of the crop of the top Disney villains.

Hopps would have just been murdered if she attempted to bring the mobster to justice. Also, she witnessed and help cause Nick's change.

I do think you miss that Hercules beats Polythemus is that while he stays in the fight via determination, he wins by thought. He is no longer trying to brute force the problem but instead ties up his adversaries' legs to use their size against them. He doesn't suddenly become brilliant (its a pretty basic trick) but he is learning.

you're confusing antagonists and protagonists with villains and heroes the protagonist isn't always the hero and the antagonist isn't always the villain it's just most of the time

Now I wonder if you're still planning on reviewing your Hades video, since it was chosen on one of your polls.

@4shame

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately we didn’t meet our merch sales goal for that video special. But I’ll run it again next month to see if we can get it this time

I know you get this a lot (having to make a video and all) but would you ever review Wattership Down?

i am guess my sister can't watch Zootopia after becoming a cop herself.

Good video. THANK you for bringing up how her name is Ella and not CINDERELLA. Idk why Disney went with that name.

12:30 oh. So Judy is almost as bad as actual cops

eh i still think think that simba is the best protagonist

Really just shit on zootopia like that 😢

The way you explained how Judy is actually a terrible protagonist in universe right at the end totally changed the way I view Zootopia probably forever.. also love the vid, u bring up points I’ve never thought abt regarding Disney’s protagonists and u are absolutely CRIMINALLY underrated for it

@4shame

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

I LOVE Hercules - the movie and the character. But to say this is the best one shows that u, no offense, have no idea about storytelling. :-) Bc Hercules has SUCH giant problems with its whole story construction that it almost hurts, bc that movie could’ve been EASILY a slam dunk and a really true, big classic for Disney

I agree but i counter with Milo Thatch from Atlantis and Jim Hawkins from Treasure Planet Either way i RUINED my vhs copy of this movie watching it on repeat

This guy sounds like the goth kids from South Park

Freaken shweet

Awesome vid! I love Hercules as a protagonist. But one thing… CINDERELLA’S REAL NAME IS ELLA?! WHAT?! DUDE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IVE HER THIS!

@Zacman1123

Жыл бұрын

Same

@roguebarbarian9133

Жыл бұрын

I mean, that's not even a Disney thing. That's just pulled straight from the actual fairy tale. She's called Cinderella because she spent all her time in front of the fire (hence cinder + ella).

@flamingknight1356

Жыл бұрын

@@roguebarbarian9133 yea but no one really knows anything about the fairytales or the actual novel of these films.

3:99 most of the time disney protagonists are perfect goody two shoes with literally zero flaws to them either making them kind of boring that or they just have one very minor flaw like basil's arrogance Judy's bigotry towards foxes simbas unwillingness to move past his childhood trauma and other's that they just kind of drop by the end making them more interesting then the overly nice characters but still unrealistic and even hercules has that to him in fact i don't even feel like stupidity is a real flaw the only notable exception is kuzco and that's about it i have no idea i commented that I'm just gonna post it anyways

Least favorites: 1# Beast 2# John Smith 3# Li Shang 4# Stitch 5# Br'er Rabbit 6# Fisherman Bear 7# Thomas O'Malley 8# Taran 9# Oliver 10# Aladar 11# Buck 12# Samson 13# Naveen 14# Fergus 15# Kristoff 16# Bing Bong 17# Maui

Judy is also the god mother to the mafia's grandson! THIS IS WHAT THE SEQUEL NEEDS TO BE ABOUT!

Loved everything until that ending.

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5:00 well technically, Belle is naive since she showed the towns people the beast and didnt think twice about what they might think

@speedracer2008

Жыл бұрын

True, but she didn’t really have much of a choice there. If she hadn’t shown them the Beast, Maurice would have been unjustly sent to an asylum.

@ashlegend4128

Жыл бұрын

@@speedracer2008 yeah good point but she still kind of is because she took no hesitation so we both have valid arguments

I was onboard with you about Zootopia until you mentioned the 6th amendment. Not everyone is american. We don't all follow your laws. In fact, most countries have laws that make much more sense

@4shame

Жыл бұрын

The right to an attorney is derived from the writ of Habeas Corpus which was adapted into most of the criminal protections under the US constitution. Do you throw a fit every time someone mentions left side driving cars because you don’t have those too?

@Frozen_Death_Knight

Жыл бұрын

Well, it is an American made movie at the end of the day. Plus, 4shame has a point about Judy doing some really ethically questionable stuff in this film. She establishes familial relations with the mafia, misuses her position as a cop to blackmail (has just joined the police department no less), and does illegal searches of private property with a felon that has a criminal record, just to name a few. By all accounts she is a terribly corrupt cop under any normal jurisdiction. Only reason people overlook this is because of it being just a film and people using their suspension of disbelief to excuse it.

13:13 But it's not america, there's no sixth amendment.

But what about Milo Thatch?

Thank you for pointing out that ACAB also applies to Judy Hopps. I don't see nearly enough people point out just how terrible of a cop she was, and I had even forgotten her complicity and dealings with organized crime.

Nope, I disagree, the #1 Disney hero is, Kurt Russell,hands down.

So Hercules created the stupid, powerful hero archetype like Goku for example.

@colindowden2182

7 ай бұрын

Dbz came way before this film.

As a Greek, i hate this movie. Herakles is a great example of hero. But Disney didn't show that at all. It's disrespectful to Greece and actual Greek mythology.

Except not because hades as a God! Was fooled by his serves about Hercules being a mortal to be easy to kill, if Hercules didn’t die so hades would noTice a soul going to the underworld or not. That’s a plothole.

@leebulger7112

4 ай бұрын

You could argue that there are so many souls in the Underworld that he would not notice Hercules soul specifically.

Yes best written hero that is culturay offensive to its natives ☹️ you all forget that our myths was part of our religion and its something sacred

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who dislikes the implications in Zootopia. It always rubbed me the wrong way when Judy let Nick and the other guys go because they helped her with the case, yeah they technically redeem themselves but they still committed crimes that they need to pay for. Honestly I feel like since its release the public opinion of the movie has soured because I see more and more internet reviewers noting its problems and not praising it like it's a masterpiece like they were back in 2016.

Disagree. Hercules was an awful protagonist