Come to Romania, we haven't built any highways.

@gghd12233

4 жыл бұрын

Because romania doesnt have any money

@roninblax

4 жыл бұрын

@津波うま味 China is too busy colonizing Africa to be in Romania

@psulionz87

4 жыл бұрын

Because Romania is a developing nation at some aspects - I'd still like to visit, thou!

@nojuststfu2942

4 жыл бұрын

Come to highway, We havent built Any romania

@Kodakcompactdisc

4 жыл бұрын

psulionz87 I’d love to visit it, the women are incredible.

Public transport is so convenient in Helsinki, there's always a bus 10 mins away.

@Othurin

4 жыл бұрын

@Gentrit Çitaku It's still A LOT slower and more irregular. And every 10 minutes is only for the absolutely most frequent lines in the biggest three cities.

@evilfish456

4 жыл бұрын

Except when you have a conference in Järvenpää and you need to take a train and a buss to malmi. But its okay cause the buss has malfunctioned and you need to run 3km in a suit to reach the train in time. God I hate working in PKS

@Isorisu

4 жыл бұрын

@@evilfish456 In the end that's not the norm. I think if you want to play it safe go with a taxi.

@evilfish456

4 жыл бұрын

@@Isorisu Its okay. I refuse to do business inside/conferences in the center. Everybody has the main offices in Helsinki center but we can easily meet outside helsinki, and this is the norm nowdays. I'm just waiting the bug companies to see the light and move out from Helsinki. Espoo or Vantaa is better choice for large companies. Well i'm just waiting to see how this project will go. The idiots tough they could limit Länsiväyläs traffic but someone told how Helsinki gets it's food. Then there was that bicycle demonstration where biker blocked the Länsiväylä. Helsingin Energia and its powerplant at Salmisaari ran out of Wood pellets so they burned 100% coal for the heat. Ironic.

@Isorisu

4 жыл бұрын

@@evilfish456 Yeah Salmisaari and kalasatama's power plants should be ripped down they are so ugly

Note that he said INSIDE the city. Which can be sufficiently argued for.

@anttikalpio4577

4 жыл бұрын

There are no freeways in the city. The freeways they’re talking about are within city limits but not in the city. They’re major ways leading to it

@qkls

4 жыл бұрын

​@@anttikalpio4577 Roads like Itäväylä take the same amount of space as a freeway although they aren't a freeway by definition.

@TheAmethyz

4 жыл бұрын

also Finnish city is same as small village in US

@thegamingsnake7198

4 жыл бұрын

SWEDEN for exempel need’s long and big roads for the logistic and the PEPOLE that lives outside the city and that goes for almost every country. We need vehicles. I’m a truck driver btw

@user-ce6iy2nw5o

4 жыл бұрын

@@anttikalpio4577 they are

“Earmarked for New York’s ailing public transportation system.”.... until the NYS government siphons off those funds for pet projects. NYC had one of the best mass transit systems in the world for decades until the state started diverting funds and letting it fall into disrepair and failing to keep up with modern improvements... The NY Times have a great video on it for those curious

@chigasaki06

4 жыл бұрын

You are 100% correct. Now that it's falling apart, they want billions for repairs. They should have incrementally updated, but didn't.

@Ironpancakemoose

4 жыл бұрын

I swear some of the roads in NYC are like a minefield, there are even places that still have cobblestone roads lol.

@mikaveekoo

4 жыл бұрын

US being such a great democracy people must have voted "yes" for letting that great mass transit system fall...

@QueenetBowie

4 жыл бұрын

We elect people to make decisions on our behalf, I’m not aware of any political system in which every financial transaction has to go through a voter referendum.

@TheGuy030770

4 жыл бұрын

@@chigasaki06 I do not live in New York, but you stated "they want billions for repairs", but who is to say that "they" didn't get it? How do you think some politicians are worth millions, but they are paid around $175,000 per year. Actually I visited New York with my family just last year, my wife is from Guangzhou, China, and she could not believe the very poor public transportation in a city that actually is older than hers. Guangzhou was almost completely destroyed during WW2.

"Affordable housing" Not going to happen in Helsinki!

@mikrokupu

4 жыл бұрын

Affordable housing does exist in Helsinki :) I just moved in to a new studio apartment (right-of-occupancy) 20 min from the city. I pay EUR 380/month + 18K deposit.

@Tomson419

4 жыл бұрын

@@mikrokupu whats the m^2?

@mikrokupu

4 жыл бұрын

@@mikkomohonen6150 Yeah a very good price-quality ratio. A massive balcony is a nice bonus. All together, a good reason to move to the suburbs ;)

@mikrokupu

4 жыл бұрын

@@Tomson419 It's 30m2 + 10m2 glassed balcony

@visakianto660

4 жыл бұрын

@Rehman Sattar Doesn't matter since housing is ridiculously expensive in Helsinki relative to income.

I’m 21 years old and from a family that never owned car. Learned to move around Helsinki at very young age. The travel card which is relatively cheap monthly covers buses, trams, commuter trains, the subway line, even the ship to an Island in the archipelago. In my family we only rented a car if we needed it for a longer trips. Otherwise in everyday life no need for a car at all. And my plan is to never buy a car, but maybe if some leasing/shared car services become cheaper I’d be happy to use every now and then...

Here in Finland we have this thing called ”paskanmarjat”.

@MegaMantero

4 жыл бұрын

I guess some of us want to "make Finland great again".

@hisexcellencypresidentofre4118

4 жыл бұрын

What's that? Some of us aren't Finns, u know..

@niceview2112

4 жыл бұрын

@@hisexcellencypresidentofre4118 basically means "bullshit"

@audinos4827

4 жыл бұрын

It means bullshit but translates as "shit's berries."

@hisexcellencypresidentofre4118

4 жыл бұрын

Ah! Thanks

This was filmed in 2017.

Ill move to Helsinki since they want residents.

@MrZampo123

4 жыл бұрын

Dont move its cold

@asm3162

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrZampo123 Im from Canada but visit Finland regularly and it's even cold for me =]

@Zigzag5710

4 жыл бұрын

ASM 613 same XD

@Gala-yp8nx

4 жыл бұрын

MrZampo Not for long at this rate...

@MrZampo123

4 жыл бұрын

Carter Kinoy well then heat age couldnt come soon enough cus im fucking done with these -30 celcius winters

If I could imagine a Vice reporter I would imagine this reporter.

@Alexandros.Mograine

2 жыл бұрын

you mean gay lesbian pan sexual assault helicopter lqtgb+ ?

@pain-gb4uf

2 жыл бұрын

@@sm3675 you said what?💀

@richardv9648

Жыл бұрын

I bet she has two moms.

The point of this video isn't to prove relying on public transportation works in big cities (Tokyo the easy proof of this, don't beat a dead horse) It's to show how a city that focused on private transportation can transition into one that focuses on public transportation.

@hannu08

4 жыл бұрын

But Helsinki doesn't/didn't focus on private transportation.. so where is the transition? Also the roads highlighted can hardly be classified as freeways in Finland and compared to 'murica not at all. Source: me, American and Finnish, living/working in helsinki for the past 10 years..

@eddenoy321

4 жыл бұрын

@@hannu08 There are quite a number of US cities where central areas are served well by public transit. Even some cities where expressway plans have been scrapped. You fail to mention that outside of Helsinki, many people are really dependent on cars. It is a lifeline for some. Not all can afford to live in an area 5 min. from the metro. Stop painting the USA as the great Satan.

@promontorium

4 жыл бұрын

The point of this video is to virtue signal bullshit that won't make a fucking dent in global pollution. Cars aren't even going to be pollutants in 20-30 years anyway.

@trippsmclovin

4 жыл бұрын

In america u less you lice in a city of 50k plus you are SOL on public transport.

@odemata87

4 жыл бұрын

I guess this video failed in its message since your comment were needed

This isn't really a only Helsinki thing, go only 80km over the sea to the south, and you will find Estonia, where the state often chooses not to build freeways, because it's afraid of that it will create more traffic and CO2 gases with it.

Also the public transit infrastructure especially railway, trams, metro, commuter trains, is so much newer and in better condition in Finland. The trains are very clean and new! Public transit is luxury here compared to the old rusty subway trains in U.S

@chigasaki06

4 жыл бұрын

America is car dependent unlike Finland. I lived in Japan and was disgusted by how much better their trains/subways are.

@unconventionalideas5683

4 ай бұрын

NYC is still often in better condition than the trains on Copenhagen's S-Tog, amazingly enough...

I wish I lived somewhere like Manhattan that had a metro entrance at every block and it was so easy to get around via metro at all hours. I'd def use the metro 90% of the time

New York City is literally a big Apple Store, everything costs a lot of money

@sunandan0

4 жыл бұрын

and everyone is pushing you..

@1P0T

4 жыл бұрын

it's apocalypstick nightmare.

@mannyverse6158

4 жыл бұрын

I'm surprised they don't charge people for walking around yet

@Wok_Agenda

4 жыл бұрын

And quality is average

Finland does it the right way, New york, just makes travle a class thing.. Not that smart, since they will just drive longer to get to their location, and have to pay more which they could use for food or something else.

@koekjestrommol

4 жыл бұрын

Ny plan will make public transport better, which is usually seen as a lower class mode of transport. So it is certainly a step in the right direction (a tiny tiny baby step).

@BasedRaven96

4 жыл бұрын

@@koekjestrommol I hope so!

@Yezu666

4 жыл бұрын

You have to start somewhere, especially in cities so focused on cars like NY. In general taxing the richer (car users) to build public services doesn't seem like a bad idea. Once you reach a critical mass, when using pubic transport (or bikes) will be more convenient than a car, it will equalize quickly.

@QueenetBowie

4 жыл бұрын

You can thank NYS for the deteriorating quality of the MTA by diverting funds from NYC to other areas.

@SofaSpy

4 жыл бұрын

@@Yezu666 New York City is not a car dominated city as a matter of fact majority of people who live in New York City don't own a car and they use public transportation. The problem is the majority of cars that are on the road in NYC are people from NJ, CT, Long island and the Hudson. People who don't pay NYC taxes to fix the roads. this is the same problem with a lot of cities across America where people live in the suburbs but work in the city

I live in Helsinki and don’t have a car or a driver’s license because the public transportation infrastructure is so good around here. I didn’t want to pay thousands of € for a driver’s license because I knew I would be moving to Helsinki to study right after upper secondary school. However, we need to keep in mind that out of 5.5 million Finns, roughly 1.2 million live in the Helsinki Urban Area and the experiences of Helsinkians are not universal for all Finns. In my hometown I had to ride my bike everywhere I needed to go since public transportation was not an option.

Europe moving ahead into the future while America is still stuck in the 1950s

@user-ce6iy2nw5o

2 жыл бұрын

more like europe going back to early 1900's

@agihiruda

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-ce6iy2nw5o Screw Ford

@emil3458

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-ce6iy2nw5o Haha no. We are evolving.

@miles5600

Жыл бұрын

america's doing the same thing though, look at detroit.

Great job! Much love

that’s nice, I can’t imagine relying solely on NYC transit - trains don’t even show up half the time, if you’re not in central manhattan at least.

@unconventionalideas5683

4 ай бұрын

That's why they want the congestion charge revenue, to fix the subsway system.

Should push for more bikes lanes and ebikes as well. Plus enclosed electric trikes for cold weather.

@xWood4000

4 жыл бұрын

Helsinki is actually pushing a lot for bikes, but not doing enough/smart decisions. The Baana was a good idea, but Mechelininkatu is pretty dangerous because of narrow bike lanes. I have almost run into random things in the way on that road atleast five times.

@suokkos

4 жыл бұрын

@@xWood4000 , I wonder if underground bike routes would work. It would encourage biking also in bad weather times (autumn, winter and maybe early spring)

@lordx4641

4 жыл бұрын

@@suokkos dude but isn't it 24/7 hot there

@lordx4641

4 жыл бұрын

@@suokkos sorry cold

@seneca983

2 жыл бұрын

@@suokkos Tunneling is expensive. For the most part the benefits are not worth the cost (except maybe in a few specific locations).

I loved this video so much. Thank you vice!

0:20 That Williamsburg?

Me: pays taxes to government to build roads Government: plz pay to use your roads Me: what

@benjamintorres9211

4 жыл бұрын

The point of that is to encourage people using more public transport rather than using your car and well you know everybody driving means terrible fucking traffic

@Bhq870

4 жыл бұрын

Bry-Fi if you’re American which is sounds like you are then you have to realize not everywhere in the world is hell bent on building giant freeways and living in cut off neighborhoods that require using their car to get anywhere

@SurprisinglyDeep

4 жыл бұрын

@@BriFiConnections The people riding the bus and the people bicycling pay the same amount as drivers in taxes. True some of the insurance and gad money might've been diverted to road maintenace. However drivers need insurance and gas anyway regardless of if they are being taxed somewhat for things like road maintenance

@TheFreshSpam

4 жыл бұрын

Uh, your paying to maintain them

@SurprisinglyDeep

4 жыл бұрын

@@BriFiConnections Yes, true. However the people using the public busses and/or bicycling most of the time contribute far less "wear and tear" to the roads than someone who drives on them in their personal car daily

I bet Robert Moses is turning over in his grave.

Well, I live in Helsinki, I’m a mother and I would LOVE to have a car. It would def save me lots of energy and time 😭 However yeah transportation is effective and reliable 👍🏽

Yet another thing i can be proud about in my country. I know i am a bit biased but i honestly feel like i'm living in the best country in the world. The only other country i think might be better is Norway.

If cars and trucks are responsible for one fifth of greenhouse emissions in the US, then why the crackdown ? This sector needs innovation not more inconvenience.

@unconventionalideas5683

4 ай бұрын

Because cars and trucks are unbelievably expensive for governments to provide for, kill people in crashes, contribute heavily to the loneliness crisis, and have a number of other serious effects, and this is a place where it is easy to make some changes.

in my town in norway, with a population of 50.000, the buses go every 12 min! in such a small town thas great

@kagenlim5271

4 жыл бұрын

12 mins? Thats way too long. Should have used a metro instead

@mr.wyrzykowski7522

4 жыл бұрын

@@kagenlim5271 wtf u mean

@kagenlim5271

4 жыл бұрын

@@mr.wyrzykowski7522 Im saying that taking a metro would be a better idea than waiting 12 mins for the bus

@mr.wyrzykowski7522

4 жыл бұрын

@@kagenlim5271 are u mental, the town has 30 000k inhabitants, i was wrong in my comment, not 50k but 30k. and only one town in norway has a metro, thats oslo. and in a town with only 30k people, do u think there is a metro?

@mr.wyrzykowski7522

4 жыл бұрын

@@kagenlim5271 and waiting 12 min is not long? are u really so picky

Go to Dubai, you'll be chainsmoking cigars

Currently renovating restaurants and apartments in downtown Helsinki and it's a headache or very expensive to bring the tools and materials. But yeah better than any US city in public transport.

@SurprisinglyDeep

4 жыл бұрын

How is it a headache or expensive?

That's gonna be so hard to sell to Americans 😪 I live in Utah and the front-runner (public train) across the Wasatch front doesn't even run on Sundays..

@thepinoyrice

4 жыл бұрын

I live in LA. r i p

@ian1064

4 жыл бұрын

Just stay at home on Sundays then lol. Sunday is a resting day anyways

@williamgag

4 жыл бұрын

Mormons!

@unconventionalideas5683

4 ай бұрын

They do apparently run on Sundays, or at least there are plans to do so, but there is a huge reduction in frequency, to the point where it is a bit silly. Still, Salt Lake City does surprisingly well.

Good initiative

We should demolish freeways here in LA

This video was filmed over 2 years before it got published...

I'm inspired. I live in a small industrial city with existing electric rail line infrastructure blanketing most sections. A complete link for domestic service to replace the almost unused (combustion) bus system. Electricity production systems have better regulation of emissions and that's only improving - THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR PROJECTS LIKE IN HELSINKI & any mass consumption model. Once the domestic rail system would start to work, less traffic ensues. The multi-lane roads to areas without rail lines could be split to fit a domestic service for complete coverage. Now to get cleaner power here in Australia is the problem.

we asians : hmm.. we need more tuk tuk / scooters !

Smart move. Driving cars should be taxed even higher in places like NYC. Makes me want to move to Helsinki. If only they spoke an easier language to learn!

@fabbe9842

4 жыл бұрын

S Cin alot of people already live here who dont speak a word finnish, so you would be fine trust me ive met some people like that

@MaelPlaguecrow6942

4 жыл бұрын

So basically make if harder for people to live in these cities.

@fabbe9842

4 жыл бұрын

@Michael VR why are you angry at me lol? i just told you that people can live off english here fine, and everyone here in finland is fine with speaking english with foreigners, you get treated only better if u cant speak the language anyways it seems like

@bloodypine22

4 жыл бұрын

@@fabbe9842 People who have lived here for years, and don't speak the language are looked down upon.

@finnicpatriot6399

4 жыл бұрын

Kvenn As they should

someone videos older than 2018. example metro map: 1/2018 west metro. bus runs on Western Highway. bus retired on january 2018

We need this in Houston traffic is insane I fucking hate driving 🙁

Cars and guns. The ultimate obsession of the US public

You mean it will cost $25 to enter the city, NYC already has a congestion tax in the form of the $15 toll you need to pay to cross the GW, Lincoln Tunnel, Holland Tunnel, and Verzano Narrows Bridge. Unless you are coming from Long Island you HAVE to pay one of these tolls to get into NYC

@Baboonery_

4 жыл бұрын

really? So Path trains or the MTA doesn't exist?

@QueenetBowie

4 жыл бұрын

Baboon this may surprise you but not everyone lives in Hoboken or Jersey City...

@GlenCychosz

4 жыл бұрын

Democrats love to tax.

@scin3759

4 жыл бұрын

It should be more expensive to come to this city. I hate cars with a passion. Had one gave it up years ago. Now bike and love it. Also feel healthier.

@jason200912

4 жыл бұрын

How are you going to balance a budget when democrats equally call for dramatically more spending in social security, welfare, teachers pay and education, renewable energy, environmental conservation, more low income immigrants? I'd say both parties just about even out when you account for the income and expenditures. Don't forget that tax revenue begins to decline on a curve once it gets to a point where it's cheaper just to hire accountants that specialize in legal tax evasion loopholes.

Yeah that's cool. I have never driven. Always cycled, walked, hitched or shared. Good going. Mark

Convenience and quality of public transport and air can massively decrease the urge to own a vehicle.

Big cities polution are honestly disgusting, we should get on electric cars by law, there is really little more tham habits holding us back.

2:55 "voluntarily"

@TomiVuori

4 жыл бұрын

Basicly: lets make driving difficult to get in and out

How do they get their electricity?

@PresidentialWinner

4 жыл бұрын

32% nuclear, 24% biomass 0,2% solar, 9% wind, 19% hydro, 6% natural gas, 9% coal, 0,3% oil BUT we import about HALF of our energy from Russia. You can guess how they make their energy

Meanwhile in Kuala Lumpur we are building 3 highways in the same time. Because Malaysia government heavily depending on vehicle tax and Malaysia's fuel is very cheap.

Please I don't think this was for the earth it's for tax revenue

@user-ce6iy2nw5o

4 жыл бұрын

Environment overall is an exuce for taxation

@marsaeolus9248

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-ce6iy2nw5o C'mon small brain

@user-ce6iy2nw5o

4 жыл бұрын

@@marsaeolus9248 what?

@marsaeolus9248

4 жыл бұрын

​@@user-ce6iy2nw5o "Environment overall is an exuce for taxation" Are you saying that climate change is a hoax? are you one of those?

@user-ce6iy2nw5o

4 жыл бұрын

@@marsaeolus9248 they are using it as an exuce, climate has always changed, these changes that are now happening are minor and we're still warming from the latest ice age, the climate also goes up and down every 500-1500 years, you can't really do anything about it, especially us, finns, The people of 5 million people, so yes it somewhat is a hoax. You must be the small Brain not to figure this out

I’m studying to be an urban planner myself and I think cars can have a place outside the city.

@r3dp1ll

4 жыл бұрын

of course. no one is denying that

@mapgar1479

3 жыл бұрын

I am an urban planning student as well however cars are needed in addition to transit walking and biking in the major cities too.

@richardv9648

Жыл бұрын

Helsinki CBD two years after covid is turning into a ghetoo. No one prefers to go into the city without fear of being attacked.

Hmmmm sounds expensive lol for my pocket

I loved Helsinki - i wish i lived there.

3:16 Bad driver spotted

And yet in 2019 in Varna, Bulgaria we just build a highway inside the city and we are super happy about it. Shame!!!

@SurprisinglyDeep

4 жыл бұрын

Varna Bulgaria is a city of only 400,000 people (tourists don't count.) It is a very small city by internationl standards population size

@earlh

4 жыл бұрын

@@SurprisinglyDeep Helsinki is only roughly double that. The main issue here is that the buildings are built too low and far apart from one another, there is a huge waste of space. This makes the city span in a much larger space than it normally would, creating the need for transportation and increasing commute times.

@SurprisinglyDeep

4 жыл бұрын

@@earlh I see

@lordx4641

4 жыл бұрын

@@earlh how cold it is there

@seneca983

2 жыл бұрын

@@SurprisinglyDeep 400k is big enough that there shouldn't be a highway *inside* the city.

I live in the countryside in Sweden without a car and have managed for many years. By that I don't mean that everyone could live like me, but most people. It's better for your health, your finances and the climate.

Excellent. I love ❤️ it

A good idea is for governments not to make driving difficult, but to make other forms of transportation much better.

20 largest cargo ships create as much pollution is every single car in US

@julian246700a

4 жыл бұрын

only for sulphur emissions

@M-I

4 жыл бұрын

And considering how much cargo the ships can transport versus a car?

@M-I

4 жыл бұрын

@TheVandolizm Well cargo ships not that many, but then you have cruise ships

@M-I

4 жыл бұрын

@TheVandolizm In an earlier comment you didn't specify the type of ship so I decided that I wouldn't need to worry about that either

@M-I

4 жыл бұрын

@TheVandolizm And if you had some common sense you wouldn't have argued that cars can move more people than ships can. Even cargo ships.

Vice news add poped ups . a guy eating japanese food. while watching vice news at the same time. 😵

new york is literally the most walkable city in the US and yet they have so many freakin cars.

They need you ban private vehicles on Manhattan island already it's 12 miles long by 3 miles.

Comment section analysis: US citizens that can't wrap their head around the flawed reality that they're accustomed to. Just screaming at the sky and pointing fingers at other nations that do things better.

@_BELMONT_

4 жыл бұрын

im from the US...can confirm this comment is a big true!

@waraidako

4 жыл бұрын

Haha, nailed it. :D

@daftnord4957

4 жыл бұрын

pointing at the majority of Asian countries is logical

I loowve the Finnish accent! Best wishes from Kenya. We are still building huge ugly brand new freeways here :(

@nataliekhanyola5669

2 жыл бұрын

Yup!! Its a damn shame, made even worse by the HUGE debt it will cause and the fact that only a few Kenyans/ nairobians own cars.

I wouldnt mind using public transport. If the US had any. It is either nonexistant or half-assed

I live 30 miles away from Helsinki here there is barely public transport. I must pay high taxes from car ownership so that the state can repair roads. Roads are in poor shape and because taxing people can't afford new cars. Yet these leftist social benefit lifters push their climatelie agenda on me and want me to pay more taxes while destroying economy and public insfracture.Housing in Helsinki is really expensive and its pushing poor people out. Outside Helsinki city people must have car to get around. It's insane how green parties just forget about 95% of the country just to look good in the eyes of world.

@alozzzy1213

4 жыл бұрын

This comment is really important. You're one of the voices of a "regular" Swedish person; is my only assumption. Everything sounds good through rose colored glasses. Reading this really gave me a better perspective. It's sad that governments don't remember the common person when dealing with these issues. Best of luck.

@juoppo131

4 жыл бұрын

It really offends me when you say regular swedish person. Im finnish speaking finn who is against state forced swedish language. Every citizen has to take mandatory swedish classes to serve the 2% minority of swedish speaking finns. There is no freedom of choice or equality in that its just pure post colonialism. Swedish language is totally useless in this country.

@alozzzy1213

4 жыл бұрын

@@juoppo131 I don't understand your frustration with my comment as I did not mean normal in any type of negative connotation. I merely meant an average citizen versus someone who is extremely wealthy/privileged/elite. I would consider myself a regular American versus say a celebrity or someone who is extremely wealthy and therefore has status.

@idomaghic

4 жыл бұрын

@juoppo131 Pretty sure he's just trolling. But yes, your comment is important as that situation is not mentioned at all in the video (aside from alleged "affordable" housing). Nor is there any mention of calculations or plans for the needed increase in public transport options to at all compete with the practical necessity for many people using cars today (e.g. situations like needing to make several stops in different suburbs (day care, school, groceries, extra curriculars, etc)).

@juoppo131

4 жыл бұрын

Finland is a welfare state. State will fund your living if you're unemployed housing,food etc. Helsinki is full of freeloaders who want to stay in expensive urban area and its funded by tax money. Wealth is transferred from tax payer to state which funds private investors owning the buildings and businesses. Poor people vote for green and leftist parties in a hope of extra 20€ every month which is basically stealing from people who are actually trying to make a living. This is a real problem.

And what does NYC do with the additional tax?

@Fireclaws10

4 жыл бұрын

Within the first 30 seconds: improve public transport

@Weave.seen.this.b4

4 жыл бұрын

No in reality, look at the other tolls they collect and dont maintain infrastructure with

@Higgins8

4 жыл бұрын

738 0309 - they'll put it towards useless social programs

@AdamSmith-gs2dv

4 жыл бұрын

@@Fireclaws10 Nope that's a lie. All the money will end up De Blasio and Cuomo's pockets

@unconventionalideas5683

4 ай бұрын

Spend it on improving the subway, commuter rail, express bus service and a variety of other transport related projects.

Helsinki always doin it right

@seneca983

2 жыл бұрын

There's no congestion charge...

If Manhattan can’t get enough revenue from parking fees, gas taxes, subway fees, and bridge tolls, then they either need to charge more for fares or spend money more efficiently.

We have to look at making cities more easily traversed via ride shares, public transportation and bycicles. We have to make it convenient to ride your bike, instead of own a car with in cities. We can do this by designing better cities!!

@saltymonke3682

4 жыл бұрын

Not all cities are good for bikes. Try that in SF.

@troypropes1182

4 жыл бұрын

@@saltymonke3682 I know, that's the point. We have to design cities to be bike friendly around the cities. If it's more convenient to ride a bike, people will ride bikes. If it's more convenient for a car, people will ride cars.

@saltymonke3682

4 жыл бұрын

@@troypropes1182 you can't ride your bike everywhere, anywhere and anytime. Trust me, I've been living in the Netherlands. The holy grail of bike city planning. Good weather, fine. Stormy season, fall and winter, hell no. Dutch don't just have bike but also cars to commute. Depends on the weather.

@troypropes1182

4 жыл бұрын

@@saltymonke3682 yes I agree with you that we still need to use cars... I'm just saying that we can eliminate the need to use cars most of the time in most situations, by designing cities with biking, walking and green public transportation as a priority.

@saltymonke3682

4 жыл бұрын

@@troypropes1182 yea, unfortunately people nowadays definne "priority" as going to the extreme end of whatever policy it is. Sadly.

Im all about better arhitecture, but >Finland >has any effect to global climate change lol

come to Viet Nam. you'll see how extremely terrible the traffic is, in cities and highways

But highway is still usefull for connect the country

Freeways were devised by the automobile industry to sell vehicles, just look at California in the USA.

@alexbutler9343

4 жыл бұрын

or the entire southeast. There's zero incentive to walk or get around anywhere except by car in the south.

I hope the US incorporates this into its major cities one day. A car should be a luxury, not a necessity. I don’t understand why all major cities can’t have extensive, efficient, affordable public transportation like many European cities (Madrid, Barcelona, Paris, Helsinki, etc.). If I ever become a billionaire, I would invest heavily in public transportation and hire the architects and engineers who built the metros and cercanías of Madrid, and have them come up with a similar design starting in Southern California. Sadly, I don’t see public transportation being sufficiently developed in the US in the near future. Even though I was born and raised in the US, I’m moving back to Madrid, Spain, as soon as possible.

@juanlemod

4 жыл бұрын

John K Than*

@juanlemod

4 жыл бұрын

John K Ok.

Lol, congestion charge started in London in 2003, New York City needs a lot of catching up to do, it hasn’t even embraced contactless or self services

@unconventionalideas5683

4 ай бұрын

Actually, it has full contactless being rolled out all across the Subway system. I am unsure what you mean by self-services. If you mean self-checkout but for other services, the concept exists in the US, but is strongly disfavored. The US actually got there first in some respects starting in the early 2000s, but it has not generally worked out well because the technology has not always been mature.

@c3realK1ll4h

4 ай бұрын

@@unconventionalideas5683 The uk started with video-calling in 2002/2003, self services was first started here and so was chip n’pin in 2004

Those congestion prices are not realized yet. That may not be what ends up happening

So only the rich get to drive where ever they want. At least 10 dollars to drive down town?? Wtf

@ThePyroRussian

4 жыл бұрын

bern so your saying everything in the city needs to be more expensive because that truck needs to pay 25$ tax to get to the store or market. Because it isn’t expensive enough to buy food nyc. This is totally a tax on poor people and middle class.

@seemslegit57

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not already a tax that poor/middle class are paying a lot for insurance and car payments?

@unconventionalideas5683

4 ай бұрын

If congestion and car volumes drop 25% and eliminate 80% of congestion related delay and cut the fuel costs and maintenance and insurance costs of running trucks accordingly and allow each truck and drive to be more productive, then the cost of deliveries will actually drop with congestion charging. That's how it has worked in London, Stockholm, Singapore, Milan, and Gothenburg.@@ThePyroRussian

Helsinki also has a population of roughly 630,000. As flawed as Los Angeles and others may be, there's just no point in comparing huge megacities to small European towns.

@hunting4honeys

4 жыл бұрын

London has a congestion charge, and the same pop as NY

@tclem14

4 жыл бұрын

PAXperMortem Helsinki isn’t a small town.....

@blinder2786

4 жыл бұрын

The population is Actually 1 million

@fkdkdkfkrkska48485

4 жыл бұрын

@@tclem14 Relative to New York City and LA it definitely is. Principles that work in a city of the size of Helsinki, are not directly transferable to larger towns. On a global scale, Helsinki is tiny.

@breakfastcrew

4 жыл бұрын

you should check out hong kong

The world keeps growing and growing!! Should we walk to hell and back to pay a ten dollar toll? Out of control

As amazing as Helsinki idea is it would not work in big cities in North America. I am living in Toronto, so typical North America. public transport system is so bad vs the car, that there is choice, but buy a car (unless you are going to downtown location next to subway). 2 small examples, when I was in high school we would take a walk for thirty minutes vs taking a bus that would get us there in 20. Another example, took a bus at night once, was the only passenger so bus did not stop, changed it to another (waiting only for second one) took me 55 minutes had also to walk half a kilometer to my house, same root by car without hwy is 10-12 minutes. Heard a story of a former colleague who had no car and everyday his travel time to work was three hours each way (he was in love with a girl working at that company). Add financial cost of transport ticket(as different suburbs have other public transit, like viva for Vaughan and Markham, and tTC for city of Toronto and each charge separately) which is not that lower than owing a car (if insurance is cheap and parking not included). In short, cities that were designed for cars can not have nice transit system.

city size, public transportation system etc... not a good comparison

@Soff1859

4 жыл бұрын

Beijing, shanghai, Tokyo, osaka and many other asian cities are much much bigger than any city in europe or the US. And public transport works just fine there.

1:31 what the heck

@Hilimani

4 жыл бұрын

I believe he hasn't been very often outside of maincapital area

@Hazzelnot94

4 жыл бұрын

@@Hilimani i think he was talking about freeways inside cities.

@xWood4000

4 жыл бұрын

He literally said that it's only a thing of the past in cities.

investing??? they’re literally planning to take away my only bus straight to the city centre to save money even though my neighbourhood is growing in population, from students to families 🤨 I’m using public transport now but if they take this bus away from us, they’re forcing us to use a car since this bus route not only goes to the city centre but to our nearest shopping mall lol

Have they not seen how many people ride the subway already smh. That toll booth won’t solve anything for Manhattan

Holy crap... We pay taxes to build and maintain the road then pay taxes to drive on the road.... brilliant

@joecramp2987

4 жыл бұрын

Do you live in New York? If not then you don't, stop moaning

@Kushert

4 жыл бұрын

@@joecramp2987 Delaware... And travel to New York regularly. Appreciate your concern.

@LureThosePixels

4 жыл бұрын

Such is the lack of foresight of people planning for only cars

@gamesman0118

4 жыл бұрын

@@Kushert So you don't pay taxes in NYC? And you want to use the road without paying anything? Typical.

@Kushert

4 жыл бұрын

@@gamesman0118 You're missing the point. Soon it will be all states and all cities this happens too. Why would they just limit this to New York when it's a growing problem everywhere

A Master's thesis? I have a master's degree, and I can tell you that if the master's paper is not refereed and scrutinized by a published scientist in that field then it is just a passing paper, and nothing needs to truly be factual, it just needs to meet the needs of the course. Anyone can write a master's thesis.

@TheGuy030770

4 жыл бұрын

@How Much For A Gram I studied mechanical engineering at Pierce College, WA., earned a associates in science in applied science from Central Texas College, TX., earned a bachelor’s in healthcare administration from Southwestern University, KS., and a master’s in criminal justice with a minor in public administration from Liberty University, VA. A student who writes a paper like the one in this video obviously is not writing from published scientific journals that have been scrutinized and refereed by peer scientists. This video makes about as much sense as the article published by James Cooke with his claims that 97% of climate scientists are in consensus that global warming is an existential threat to human beings. skepticalscience.com/global-warming-scientific-consensus-intermediate.htm www.forbes.com/sites/alexepstein/2015/01/06/97-of-climate-scientists-agree-is-100-wrong/#4094e2743f9f James Cooke is not a scientist, he is a political cartoonist who took published articles, conjoined certain phrases from specific articles, and then wrote an article with a false claim. The worst part of this is, is that politicians are running with it. Real climate scientists come to conclusions that global warming is a hoax. Science is not a consensus. Point is, a master’s thesis in many instances only satisfies course requirements. Policies should never be implemented by referencing a master’s thesis. If Helsinki wants to operate using properly vetted information to adjust their infrastructure, then I suggest that they reference reliable information. Have you ever noticed that only activists are talking about climate change? The boy that wrote his master’s thesis in this video has written it from unreliable information. Keep in mind that this video comes from VICE News. VICE is known for misinformation. Since I answered your question, where did you go to school?

@TheGuy030770

4 жыл бұрын

@How Much For A Gram What personal information? The schools I attended and the degrees I've earned? You can't glean any information from that. That is not personal information.

@TheStigu

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheGuy030770 Why do you start with an assumption that this master thesis was factually incorrect? What's the reasoning for that? Also I'd like to say that having a degree in something only means that the person invested some time getting one....anyone can do that.

@TheGuy030770

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheStigu I never made any such assumption that his master’s thesis was factually incorrect, I made it on the premise that there is no scientific data that corroborates his claim that global warming even exists. Have you ever noticed that climatologists are not making any claims that the Earth’s climate is heading in one direction or another? Activists are making claims that “scientists are claiming that global warming is an existential threat to mankind”, not scientists. So, therefore, this kid’s thesis is not based on scientific data at all, it is based on activist fear-mongering. And to implement policy based on politics to dismantle infrastructure is just plain nuts. I do agree with you that earning a degree is only a matter of investing time and energy into doing the work required. I was very fortunate to serve in the army and let them pay for my education. www.forbes.com/sites/alexepstein/2015/01/06/97-of-climate-scientists-agree-is-100-wrong/#6ba25003f9ff www.forbes.com/sites/alexepstein/2015/01/06/97-of-climate-scientists-agree-is-100-wrong/#6ba25003f9ff climatefeedback.org/evaluation/letter-signed-by-500-scientists-relies-on-inaccurate-claims-about-climate-science/ www.businessinsider.com/nasa-scientists-dispute-climate-change-2012-4

@TheStigu

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheGuy030770 as a resident of helsinki I think this was more to do with where we as a community want our infrastructure be heading....better public transport. If that results in less admissions, hooray...but thats not really the point. We as a society have already decided that fossil fuel will be banned...and it will be banned long before this 2050 that was mentioned in this video. Our public transport system is already good....noone needs to drive a car inside the city. You seem pretty fixed on your climate change denying....to the point perhaps where you will never understand that people want this change. Maybe you need to go bomb some country for their oil....ain't that how you operate?

Sooo ur telling me there’s a chance lol

Everybody knows you never go full Helsinki.

but what about when all cars are electric? Will they still want to tear down the freeways when they don't pollute?

@BeorEviols

4 жыл бұрын

Less cars means less traffic jams, safer roads for cyclists, more efficient public transport, less noise pollution, less accidents, less personal expenses, etc. So they'd probably still go with the plan

@secondaccount142

4 жыл бұрын

@@BeorEviols never gonna happen, especially in spread out cities like LA, Houston, ect..

@Soff1859

4 жыл бұрын

The road itself breaks up the city and makes it unwalkable. Same goes for all the extra parking spaces needed for all those cars. Also more danger of traffic accidents. So it isnt just about the pollution.

@SurprisinglyDeep

4 жыл бұрын

That won't happen for at least 30 years, probably 50

@xWood4000

4 жыл бұрын

We won't either completely get rid of cars. Renting cars is already quite popular here and ride-sharing could be a thing, our legislation is currently being developed with for example that goal in mind.

Although the distances in the US make it a bit trickier to run a public transport system, it's anything but impossible. Even in metropolitan areas. Also good example on how to do it could be the Dutch Randstad which is much more comparable in size. Also, it's hilarious to see (some) people from the US identifying cars with personal freedom.

Here you can check the Helsinki City plan which has changed a bit from the plans shown in the video www.yleiskaava.fi/en/

I don't necessarily think driving on the highway is the same as cigarettes. I see the comparison. Just could find better one. I do believe in public transportation however.

Why would anyone want to live in the US at this point

this sounds like this is happening now. "/is/ tearing up" . no it isn't. sounds more like "somebody had an idea" and you broadcast it like it's something that is actually happening.

@xWood4000

4 жыл бұрын

I'm very unsure, but I think the Jokeri light rail is a part of this plan.

@seneca983

2 жыл бұрын

Now this year (2021) the first one of these (in Laajasalo) is under construction.

Because the professor told him

Money heist triggered my interest in this video

So how are suppose to bring in goods and services into the city without major freeways ?

@alexbutler9343

4 жыл бұрын

railroad freight, less single occupancy vehicles on the road leads to more room for trucks, and they can stipulate deliveries be made during low traffic hours. Many European cities already do this they're just focusing on Helsinki.

@saltymonke3682

4 жыл бұрын

@@alexbutler9343 railroad freight still need trucks to do a door-to-door delivery

@alexbutler9343

4 жыл бұрын

@@saltymonke3682 you do that will small trucks from the freight yard which don't need big freeways. The point of the freeways is to get large freight trucks into the cities which rail can replicate.

@saltymonke3682

4 жыл бұрын

@@alexbutler9343 depends on the freight. Not all freight can be fitted to a small truck. First, what's the definition of a "small truck"? Less than 8 Tons Truck? If so, many standard railroad 20ft cargo freighter can't be delivered. Or you have to pay MORE because they have to deliver it in 3 different trips because of the size limitations. Many supermarket chains use 20ft-40ft cargo sized truck to fill up their store in one trip. Making it very cost efficient.

@alexbutler9343

4 жыл бұрын

@@saltymonke3682 they don't use North American size trucks in Europe, only when absolutely necessary. This had already been done in several cities so obviously it's possible.

It'll be interesting to think of what hyperloop could do to this

@Helsinkisillest

4 жыл бұрын

@Nick dont be so shortsighted. Technology is moving way faster and of course we'll have glitches and problems to begin with but hyperloop could seriously increase mobility in areas where the infrastructure is built. Also, so much of helsinki is built underground so urban planners could leverage a potential hyperloop project in the future.

@seneca983

2 жыл бұрын

@@Helsinkisillest Hyperloop is almost certain to not be viable. Even if it were, it wouldn't for these types of commutes but rather for travelling between major cities like high-speed rail or airplanes are used today.

@epender

Жыл бұрын

@@Helsinkisillest Or they could just build something which is much better and already exists, like high-speed rail.

Finland is the wrong place to talk about less freeways or climate change. That discussion should be rather done in places like: China, India or America to start with. There are only 5.5mil of us, that is like a really small village in India or Pakistan. Understandable subject, wrong place.

@seneca983

2 жыл бұрын

"Finland is the wrong place to talk about less freeways" It's not. Land inside Helsinki is expensive. Highways are not an efficient use of that land. It makes sense to replace it with housing since there's a lot of demand for it.

So a 'freeway' is a mororway, right?