What applications would you like to see graphene used for? Let us know. 👇

@veloriderkm

5 жыл бұрын

I'm holding out for an aero road disc bike that's made out of robot-woven graphene and 3D printed super magnesium, CeramicSpeed's Driven drivetrain, nanite wheelset that changes depth, width, and strength based on road and weather conditions.

@charlesmansplaining

5 жыл бұрын

As long as bike R&D mostly gets developed by retired Pro Cyclists like M. Cipollini, Merckx, Etc. ( who aren't engineers or rocket scientists ) or by the hippy type bros and dudes that don't smoke pot anymore, I don't think Graphene will ever mix with the manufacture of bicycles or producing super bikes. Vittoria may have used some in their tires but their tires still flat more than a lot of other brands so I believe it was just total bullshit. Graphene is not going to be the next miracle material for bikes. We really only need to look at the aerospace industry to figure out what comes next.

@bigring6424

5 жыл бұрын

It might have an application in Garmin displays or e-bike capacitors, not in anything structural. Dust just isn't that useful for making things.

@cyklatillbahamas

5 жыл бұрын

If it's that thin, bendy, and strong, why not woven into what essentially becomes protective bike clothing - no more road rash 👍

@HolmsOnBikes

5 жыл бұрын

Graphene could be used to display brake lights mounted on the riders lower back on their bibs.

I dont think theres a video with Ollie that havent made me laugh , everyone in GCN is very knowledgeable but Ollie gives the videos a fun twist ! Great stuff GCN !

I've worked in bike shops for years and never thought of the "viagra stem" 🤣👌 pure gold! Well done Ollie👍 -the cannondale gets my vote, $40k is ludicrous and reminds me of the old true story of the pet rock...

The two of you really are a dream team! Hilariously funny and super informative!

@gcntech

5 жыл бұрын

Haha thanks B 👊

Well, I guess my five years of studying chemistry brought me a general understanding of the GCN Tech show. That was worth it...

that nagasawa is one of the best looking bikes thats ever been sent in!! and olly never stop the acsents!!!

Ooh, buckminsterfullerine! One of my favourites since remembering it in a GCSE test and feeling extra smug.

I use the Rubino pro control with graphene 28mm as a rear tire... Fantastic tire, amazing ride and puncture protection

The downtube on that gold helix ....... 😳 very clever!

@tabl10s

5 жыл бұрын

That's the opposite of the Litespeed T1sl which has the top tube twisted.

I've always been a fan of the show but on this one you've exceeded my expectations from the show. I like the bike news but the banter is the salt and pepper for this. Well done guys! 👍

Come on lads! Get the gold Zelinski a super nice. The photo was stunning and so pro. No big cassette can prove that wrong!!

Graphene uses: 1) replace the wiring for shifting by embedding in the frames 2) connecting power to motors, lights, power meters, shifters, dropper posts from a central battery or power source 3) To connect the electromagnets that will pull Ollies hair down 4) paint on bikes that will change color with the charge applied 5) ion drive bikes to reduce drag amp.economist.com/science-and-technology/2018/11/21/the-first-journey-of-an-aircraft-with-an-ion-drive

@gcntech

5 жыл бұрын

Mainly 3.

Graphene MAY eventually trickle down to the cycling industry, but well behind the industrial applications that would merit the extensive R&D required to fabricate and implement the material in favor of existing technologies. Carbon fiber took a similar hype-to-pedestrian once upon a time. It's fun to dream about it in the meantime - would love to see what designers would concoct for a graphene based triathlon hyper aero bike with a material lighter and stronger that carbon fiber alone.

3:30 Ah, some good old first year organic chemistry that I never understood and almost failed.

Love the twisted down tube on the gold Linsky.

How can you not give that Helix Ti a super nice?? Stunning

@Vass122

5 жыл бұрын

tell me about it!!!

One of the highlights of the show for me is the bike vault but you guys are killing it, your radar is way off. Example; the Trek that looks like the owner has taken a half assed pic on the way to the dairy gets a super nice! But the guy who has grovelled his way up the hills and taken a pretty scenic pic in Brisbane gets a nice! You really need to go back to when the vault made it's first few appearances, there are rules you know .... It's not always about the bike ....

Top show..barrels of fun and top bike tech. Things just don't get any better !!

Great content!, I never get tired of seeing Jon going wild every time he rings that bell LOL!

Great Tech show today...great team you two!

Kudos for your explanation on graphene!!

@gcntech

5 жыл бұрын

Cheers bud!

As an American, I love Ollie’s American accent. Lol!

Absolutely cracks me up when Ollie goes Chemistry professor! Gotta love a good atomic bond section! I king of think that probably Graphene won't end up being this wonder material that it was hyped up to be. I think that as Ollie says then it will have limited uses and probably will end up being in a composite material but I will wait and see. In all honesty Carbon fibre probably has a long way to progress in the bike industry to get to the same levels as it is used in other areas so I look to see how high the quality can get with carbon before we end up with graphene added into the mix! Absolutely love the bike vault and Ollie you really have to work on your accents! Being from not far away from Dunbar in Scotland I am confident to say that if you talked like that then you wouldn't be invited back on any local rides! That Cannondale, just every time that I was looking at it made me think that it was a Bianchi, just from the colour! I think that I know what Jon means with one colour just becoming very iconic to a brand, would be very interesting to see a Bianchi in other colours, think that is why the Pantani yellow and celeste stood out so much. Love the show and keep it up chaps!

The lightweight Cannondale is a stunner, but its stem needs desperate intervention, maybe some of what the original stem on Todd's bike was taking. Some....not the full dose. Also, Ollie needs to voice the commentary that's going on in his head. The smirks and sly grins make it clear that he's censoring himself now and again.

That gold anodized titanium bike should have been a super nice.

Thank you for this informative entertainment. I look forward to your next...

Excellent hard science chaps, more please because this is awesome.

@gcntech

5 жыл бұрын

Cheers Jayneflakes!

Jon is pumped super enthusiastic love it 😁

John and his constant positive energy !

In the Remote Control car world, we use Li-Po batteries that have "graphene" in them (probably marketing, if not, then I am already using it) and they have a higher discharge rate (more power), and we also charge them in about 20-30 minutes

Jon and Ollie you are great together (without the hugs and kisses), so funny....however Jon you are way scarey when are "RINGING THE BELL" and even Ollie looks petrified...there should be a 18 certificate on that !!!

I've had that Schwalbe tread cutter for over a year and only every used it once .

Ollie and Jon, you guys are awesome, keep on with the crappy jokes (that viagra stem was hilarious) 😆

Hooray Jon! A black Bianchi! Deserves a louder bell..

I think you guys can forget about a trip downunder now :D

@baulksupply

5 жыл бұрын

Waaay too harsh on that Helix

FINALLY! I've always wondered why basically people got so excited about graphite bikes (as you pointed out nicely, graphene becomes graphite if you layer it). Shows the stupidity of a hype that could happen if media don't check their sources and understanding (of a scientific topic, mostly) properly.

Carbon fibre rocks GREAT video guys

Marginal gains = little betters

@teuast

5 жыл бұрын

Incremental Improvements Detail Doping Tiny Tweaks And, for a non-alliterative one, Price Raisers

@SgtMacska

5 жыл бұрын

Little betters, I love this

What happend with the brake/shift cables of the Cannondale ???

I shared the video with Si with this message Thought this was interesting and worth sharing, as Trek is an industry leader of bicycle manufacturing is something that is/ will be looked at in the future? It would be great for both frames and Bicycle components, especially for mountain biking though the video focuses on road bikes. This was the response from Trek: Hi James, that is a really interesting topic, whilst it is not something being used right now, it is definitely going to be an option in the future as the industry pushes the development of bikes on where different materials/techniques are used to create industry leading bikes. Thanks for sharing with us - Trek Team

Tirillium composite frames are all the rage where i live.

Ollie’s hair appears to have been tamed. Bring back the pointy look.

Use graphene circuits for power meter shoes! (I'm just real lazy switching my garmin vectors between different bikes)

that 4.3kg bike looks soo good except of that curved stem, the curved steam i really can't stand looking at it

My local bike shop in Texas sells graphene cyclocross tires.

I personally have a townbike with a 3speed internal geared hub which of course has a singlespeed chain. When waxed and using a chaincase, I really rarely have to clean my chain, like simply swap out for a fresh one every 500km and clean + rewax the old chain. Belt drive might be the future, but it's still so expensive for a townbike that could be stolen. The rear cogs are like 100 quid vs 3-5 quid for a shimano nexus cog. Also, the belts are about 80€ or more, so the first investment is quite expensive. But my main concern would be efficiency. Belts rob like 10% of the energy plus internal geared hub which have between 93-97% efficiency makes a total loss of 12,7%-16,3%. that's nothing to be sniffed at

Kudos to Fuji for the graphene sheet achievement, but I wonder how many flaws are in that sheet. That's the other big issue with graphene: flaws in the sheets can significantly alter physical properties.

nice names for german bikes, hope to see adolf and reinhard next year!

Gotta be the sub-5kg bike for me. Something about the zeal and bodginess of drilling out your top-tier carbon components feels much more authentic and true to the love of the sport than the conspicuous consumption gold-leaf bike.

I live in Boston and I've never seen that bike going around. I'll have to be on the lookout. Boston is not the place to be riding something that nice out and about, damn

@abou136

5 жыл бұрын

Not my every day bike, but when I do ride it I'd love to show you in person!

Guys, can you please do a graphene segment covering ALE cycling gear, use to regulate heating by being cool (temperature wise). Italians are quite well head in graphene applications right now...

Graphine? We are going back to titanium!

I think we're starting to see more Graphene products. It used to be about ceramic coatings for automobiles which advertised 2+ years of protection. However, Adams Graphene UV auto coating is advertised with 5+ years of protection? I'm not sure if the results are conclusive, but my point is we're starting to see more products that appear to show benefits. Graphene in Vittoria tires seems cool. My Djokovic Head tennis racquet has a graphene composite and it is, by far, the best racquet I've ever used (and I've used all of the top end racquets from major brands over the past decade). I just bought Anker wireless earbuds that have graphene drivers - amazing performance at not much more cost. Not saying graphene is going to revolutionize the cycling industry, but I believe it may add to strength, durability and lightness, which in turn, should lead to some performance gains..

Vittoria makes their Qurrano wheelset that is a graphene composite. Any thoughts from you tech show techies on those?

I love my Graphene fishing rods! G Rod International, the only graphene fishing rods out there!

@greatorangesky

5 жыл бұрын

And it's not simply the powder mixed in prepreg, it's physical layers

2 years ago: Graphene is THE THING of the near future. Today: Well, there are some drawbacks, but still can be big potential. GCN Tech Show late fall 2020: do you remember that thing we talked about a couple of years ago? Gr... Gra.... Graphi.. How that was called??? Jokes apart, I hope it will make its way to mass market. As always, Thanks GCN!!!

I don't know what part graphene plays in my Vittoria Saguaro's, but I like the grip.

I noticed Jon didn't quite get Cricket right. I see as a game that 5 days and take 3 days before anyone even thinks about hitting the ball. Then maybe 1 more day before anyone actually hits the ball. Plus 5 days of rubbing the ball against the crotch. Just waiting for the puzzled American comments now.

@gcntech

5 жыл бұрын

cheeky. I know my cricket alright!

@LaughingSaint66

5 жыл бұрын

Lisa Rogers noooooo stop with the damn cricket😂😂🤪

@LaughingSaint66

5 жыл бұрын

Lisa Rogers noooooo stop with the damn cricket😂😂🤪

It puts celeste in the basket or it gets the bell again

You two definitely had a bag of skittles each before doing this video! It was funny

Can't believe another ubiquitous Trek Madone got a "Super Nice" but the gold Lynsky Helix that is obviously one of a kind didn't.

@Vass122

5 жыл бұрын

agree!!!! considering its my bike :)

@newttella1043

5 жыл бұрын

@@Vass122 I have to ask, is the down tube twisted around a few times?? Or is that just an illusion from that amazing paint job? Either way, I give it a Super Nice!

@Vass122

5 жыл бұрын

@@newttella1043 Its one full twist only - the paintjob alone was $1k but a real head turner on the streets. The cockpit is full Ti with handlebars that bond into carbon dropouts

@newttella1043

5 жыл бұрын

@@Vass122 One twist "only"?!?! Haha, still an amazing build. Too bad Jon and Ollie missed it.

It's got to be tod - fixing that stem has stopped my hyperventilating.

Come on people - the Merckx replica comes from THE HOME OF BICYCLES - Coventry!!!! (J.K. Starley's Rover "safety" bicycle was made in Coventry) Okay, as a Coventrian living in Brussels I may be biased....

@frazergoodwin4945

5 жыл бұрын

@@jackvssharks Not seen that - I'd want the wheel seated properly too!

What *on earth* was going on with the cranks on the Cinelli?

GCN I'm realy confused right now and need some help. I just found out that you can mount a 30mm crank (bb30/pf30 crank) to a bsa frame. Why does the gxp standart from sram exist? And if I can mount the lighter and stiffer 30mm spindle to any frame then why bring out the dub system as the one crank fits every frame solution? I was realy liking the T47 concept because it's a threaded solution that can fit every crank but now bsa already does exactly this. pls explain this in the next show I realy don't get it.

Ollie you need to restart the cycling café visits you we’re doing before GCN!

Has one of these graphene carbon fiber composite bike frames cracked yet? All I need to know, the danger in carbon fiber frames is the potential to unexpectedly crack/shatter during a ride. Thank you.

can anyone tell what kind of wheels are one the merckx replica?

I love the wheels on that Helix and particularly the decal details, anyone know what they might be?? Maybe the owner, assuming s/he is looking at the comments?

@Vass122

5 жыл бұрын

The wheels are Zeal Camerig 44 disc - super wide and run 28mm tubeless

@FrenchyKimbo

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you, absolutely gorgeous!

I don't think Ollie was a GCN presenter when the siren was in use. Bring it back, I say.

Touch n stroke fnar fnar. But Ollie looked a little worried at that quip....

Did someone leave the radio on ?

"marginal gains" new term is "discretionary cash flow"

Don’t forget when the ruby lasers came along . Scholars said it was unique but they didn’t really know what applications would be . Now lasers are in every business, so will be graphene .

@rodparker4514

4 жыл бұрын

Graphene injusted bike shirts

You need a new word for "marginal gains"? (per 10:56). How about: "minuscule accretions"? ;-D

@gcntech

5 жыл бұрын

Try saying that one after a few mineral waters

15:37 what happened with the left crank on this Cinelli ?!

@billinhouston3291

5 жыл бұрын

A square taper crank that is 90 deg off? That is pretty weird.

Vittoria has been incorporating Graphene in their tyres for a few years now. You should have included that in your vlog or better yet do a head to head comparison test: Vittoria Corsa G+ v. Conti GP 5000's. Vittoria is claiming that are the fastest tyres with the lowest rolling resitstance. I've been riding on them with two different bikes and they are amazing.

@Bad_Science_Channel

5 жыл бұрын

sittingbackrelaxed we mentioned Vitoria tyres. Also... independent testing puts the corsa g+ very close to the gp4000 in rolling resistance. The corsa speed is regarded as being rapid, however it is a much thinner tyre very little puncture protection.

I demand Graphene Toothbrushes!

This week's #bestupgrade is the best head to head competition ever! The Cannondale is sure to win!

As with all new technologies, it will always take time to hit the shops as innovators, manufacturers and companies must make their money on their current items first.

Before marginal gains, Japanese manufacturers adopted “kaizen” - the practice or small, continuous improvements.

The trimmer was for tiers to wide on cyclocross bikes .. They trim the tire down so it don't rub on the frame...

@TheBrainActivation

5 жыл бұрын

great comment, hilarious nickname :-)

@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed

5 жыл бұрын

TheBrainActivation 😁 find me on strava try one of my workouts. Every time I went to ride with a group I get really antsy. I'm the first one to always attack and take off. And they would always say there he goes. I asked, does there he goes stand for The God Of Speed? So it stuck, being that i am Greek.. It was that or nuclear boss or Tuna.

@TheBrainActivation

5 жыл бұрын

@@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed 👍 makes sense

As a Brisbanite I'll forgive Jon for pronouncing Mt Gravatt wrong. Just this once.

Would Refinements be fitting?

I love cricket too, and cycling. Love from india.

How many times did Ollie “almost” loose it, whilst listening to Jon’s ad libbing.. i’m still cracking up...

11 at the BEER????? it must be getting close to christmas :D :P

If circuits can be integrated into clothing with graphene, how about wearable power meters? Less weight on the bike.

@robtaylor1444

5 жыл бұрын

Something like this? www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0008622317301872

"Strides are being made in clothing". Strewth mate!

Fun fact: Buckminster Fuller (who Buckminster fullerene was named after) taught at my university. (Southern Illinois university Edwardsville)

Early release today, Jon.

@JonCannings

5 жыл бұрын

🤭

Graphene performs well if you look at the small amounts within composites whilst these composites have far better specs.

Graphine warming circuits in clothing that keep you warm when cycling outdoors in winter.

@davidbooth806

5 жыл бұрын

And come nightfall, the graphine circuits in your lycra turn on and light you up like Tron.

incremental ameliorations

Metier actually sells a graphene base layer

Well since graphene batteries do exist and are lighter than lithium-ion, they could be useful in electronic group sets to drop weight even further. I do think though graphene will never quite gain the widespread use like carbon fiber. Currently we still have four main frame materials (steel, aluminum, titanium, and carbon fiber), so unless it’s fiscally viable to produce graphene frames, we might only see composite frames and parts.

16:38 this needs to become a meme

I'm colour blind too Ollie. Got told the other week. Was a right bolt out of the Orange, was that!!!!

@oliverbridgewood3929

5 жыл бұрын

hahaha, i'm gonna steal this!

@gcntech

5 жыл бұрын

@@oliverbridgewood3929 please don't. Jon.

LOLOL. Classic dry humor while discussing graphene chemical make up. Well done.

Incremental upgrades