This is why it was important for Luke to be raised by muggles before he was trained as a Jedi. He can see the perspective of non Force sensitives.

@weeklyfascination

5 ай бұрын

Good point. In addition, Luke was raised as a farmer, which didn't really prepare him for a life in politics.

The Jedi got the same treatment as the Samurai in Japan when it modernized. They were no longer needed, relics of the past. Samurai, according to anecdotes, were above the law. They had the Samurai code, but they were also human and fallible. Something to think about, at least, as it might not be a perfect analogy. But the way this plays out in the Star Wars universe also played out in Japan.

@dariusposton5714

28 күн бұрын

Power will always corrupt every soul it comes in contact with.

Imagine if we had an R-rated Star Wars new trilogy about this period (after Return of the Jedi) directed by someone capable and with a quality script and cast.

@forcelightningcable9639

5 ай бұрын

I don’t know, I can imagine quite a bit…

@KING-tz6lo

5 ай бұрын

Underrated comment

@05goode

5 ай бұрын

It wouldn’t be starwars if it was rated r

@corujariousa

5 ай бұрын

@@05goode And we get Jar Jar Binks... Time for something better, in my opinion.

This was a closer look into Luke's thinking. It showed us that he thought things out, he looked at all sides of the situation, though with Abeloth conducting her mind games, it put the Jedi in a tight spot. Though once Luke left, things started to go down hill, especially with the people that were under the command of Daala started to make prizes out of the Jedi they encased. Though in the end, it led to the point where the Jedi gave up their position, and distanced themselves from the Galactic Alliance. Therefore the government couldn't control them anymore or have any say in how they should follow the Force. Though this revelation to Luke probably showed him that there was more that the Jedi needed to do, rather than just cut and run.

@7ElevenTruther

5 ай бұрын

I guess you can say this was another example of luke trying to learn from the mistakes of the previous generations. The jedi order was fucked from the moment they grew confortable effectively being a subsumed taxpayer funded governmental body of the old republic lavishly nesting on coruscant.

@MYJEWISHLAMPSHADES

5 ай бұрын

I nose of a problem...

This is actually one of the moments that made me admire EU Luke even more

@draconianemanations2785

5 ай бұрын

Same. This channel just keeps getting dumber, ragging on the expanded universe like this. Stupendous Wave is Disney Wars shillery.

Fate of Jedi is the literaly the pinaccle of Legends. Best series made.

Her arguments are constructionist, intended to bring about a preferred outcome regardless of truth or justice, so there‘s her fallacy, but it’s cool that Luke saw through that in the end and acted in the best interests of the galaxy’s inhabitants regardless.

She didn’t give AF about her citizens she cared about embarrassing Luke

very cool topic. Yes, the Force is a gift and people have to be taught that. It does not present rosy solutions to bad situations - maiming, etc., but the Force is a gift to the Galaxy and perhaps the only way the people will realize that is by self-imposed exile for a time.

She makes Fair points. Holding them accountable is a good thing. But it can sometimes be a bit more complicated when it comes to the jedi & the force.

@jakealter5504

5 ай бұрын

And ironically she winds up shooting herself in the foot with this later on

@shadowbeast2276

5 ай бұрын

@@jakealter5504 it happens.

@jakealter5504

5 ай бұрын

@@shadowbeast2276 she got so bad that most of the people actually supported the Jedi over daala due to how draconian her policies became

@shadowbeast2276

5 ай бұрын

@@jakealter5504 wow. Well that too isn't too surprising.

@drifter139

5 ай бұрын

by that logic, everyone who voted in Palpatine as the Emperor should be held responsible and charged with his crimes

Exile was far better fate than disney had in store for him

I think the Jedi were blinded because they became political that's why palpatine feared Qui Gon Jin. If the force ordered someone be struck down Qui Gon would he was not blinded like the other Jedi. If Luke acted under the new republic the same thing would happen again. The Jedi need to be outside of the republics command like spectars in mass effect as they are warrior monks and peacekeepers.

Just a point... Caedus literaly said they could clone him new hand and get it back... If he had few weeks. And he didn't care for that

@Kyle-fp5lm

4 ай бұрын

And in a Clone Wars comic Maul cuts the hands off of a Padawan. The padawan later is resting in a Bacta tank with his hands reattached.

Daala actually made some very good and important points and Luke realised this when he took the Force out of the equation. Thing is if you think about it the Jedi violate ordinary people all the time whenever they use a mind trick which, when you think about it is them telepathically manipulating someone to accomplish there own goals.

@dariusposton5714

28 күн бұрын

I agree with you objectively.

What happens if all us fans just say "legends" is canon?

@nyaalilith

5 ай бұрын

Some of us already do, me for one. After all corporations dictating the way is the opposite of how storytelling has worked throughout most of human history to begin with.

@Spock4771

3 ай бұрын

It's still not canon because George Lucas has said it isn't and fans don't get to decide what's caonon or not whoever owns the product ip dose you may disagree with it but it doesn't change that fact

@dariusposton5714

28 күн бұрын

@@Spock4771 Let the true Star Wars fans follow the Legends canon and let the feminists follow the "Disney canon", in the same way that we let saints believe that saving lives is good while letting demons believe that killing off lives is good. People are allowed to accept what they want as canon since there are no laws stating that they have to go along with what the owner wants them to. What you said may be a fact, but no one will ever get me to accept the "Disney canon". In short, you accept what you want, and I will accept what I want.

@MLGProTroller

21 күн бұрын

@@Spock4771Fans get to decide EVERYTHING. That’s how it’s always been, and will always be.

Starwars' Jedi work like real world politics and acts on a cycle. -The Jedi acts alone and grows their power, then it helps a group that asks for it only for that group to absorb it and weaken the Jedi, then that group gets dissatisfied with the Jedi, and finally the Jedi act alone again which starts growing their power. -Just as A Nation rises to fight against corruption, has peaceful days that start corruption, the corruption grows, foreign power intensifies corruption creating hard days, then a Nation rises to fight against corruption.

@KING-tz6lo

5 ай бұрын

Like the real world

in my opinion Luke is the strongest Force Wielder. Stronger in the force as his father and way more stronger like Ray.

@ShadowCthulhu

5 ай бұрын

Not just yours but George Lucas as well since he said Luke in the EU is what a full Anakin would be.

@nadjasunflower1387

5 ай бұрын

and yet he's still slightly weakened due to his own prosthetic forearm / hand...so not as strong as he could have been.

This series brought balance back to the Jedi, under Del Rey we got warrior Jedi but their portrayal strayed from their origins. The earlier books often had Luke and other Jedi purposefully finding a peaceful way to resolve conflicts. Didn't can for it but looking back there needed to be a way to reset the order after the Vong invasion and its effect on the Galaxy. I just didn't like they brought Dalaa back. The best part of this is that it was a very Luke Skywalker moment which I loved.

I do believe that if a Jedi resorts to severing an assailant's limb to stop a fight from escalating, they should be responsible for assisting the assailant getting a prosthesis. It would be well within the Jedi Way to do so, and I think it would improve the view of the Jedi Order somewhat. The Jedi should be held accountable for rheir mistakes because that, in and of itself, is a way to uphold the Light Side and properly protect the galaxy. It helps keep proper order and balance.

@weeklyfascination

5 ай бұрын

The video makes a great point. A Jedi could easily knock the other person down with the force. Why chop off a limb, other than it makes for great visuals for a movie, and shows how deadly a lightsaber can be? No doubt, this long view wasn't really part of the calculus when Ep IV was written and filmed.

@charlesnewman5136

5 ай бұрын

Say what? If you get shot in the arm committing a crime. Do you think the police gives a rat's ass if you get an arm?

@Kyle-fp5lm

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, no I can’t agree with that. If said person is committing a crime then sad to say that is one consequence of their actions.

Battletech universe had somewhat simular situation. A big military force was used to essentually quell sucessful usurpation attempt, but after that there was a massive military force kind of holding the entire galaxy by the throat. So the most peaceful and best solution was the exile of said military force, because power vacuum left by the usurper would have to be filled by either that peacekeeping force or somebody else

Notice though that everyone is okay with hating on the Jedi until they NEED their help, then suddenly all is forgiven and now they expect the Jedi to do exactly what they were bitching about. Hypocrites lol😂🙄

@_Sororita

5 ай бұрын

You can appreciate the good done without tolerating the bad you know. The Jedi are supposed to be peace keepers, of course people will like it when Luke and his order do their self appointed jobs right from time to time, without reaching into peoples minds and choppin off peoples limbs randomly like a psycho all Willy nilly-without any regard for legal or moral repercussions “because da force lol”. They just don’t like it when Jedi abuse their power, that’s not “hypocritical”.🙄

@SkinnyEatWorld95

5 ай бұрын

@@_Sororita The Republic sure were happy for that "willy nilly justice limb chopping" when they were getting clapped by the Mandalorians.

@nadjasunflower1387

5 ай бұрын

@@_Sororita chopping off arms willy nilly ??? LOL really ??? lemme guess, someone pulls a blaster and your going to at that moment...have a conversation ?? 🤡

@MLGProTroller

21 күн бұрын

@@_SororitaIt absolutely is. You should read a dictionary so you have a better understanding of the word ‘hypocritical’.

The issue with this is that the alternative is to do what in this situation? The Jedi intervenes and so the person pulled their blaster? Also, if the Jedi de-escalated the situation by using the force you are now giving leeway for Jedi to take away free will. Finally, in the case of the Jedi going on a rampage, giving short notice thorough reports and leaving, do you want to lock the Jedi up? How long will a Jedi going through the prison system before they decide nope and leave? Or worse, criminals try and assault the Jedi and then the Jedi defends themselves with the force or is assaulted and possibly killed. The only true fix is, the Jedi leave Coruscant and create their own society where they are left alone. The Republic doesn’t want that because that society would be too strong and it would weaken the Republic to the point that they could be overrun and destroyed. You can’t have it both ways which is what the Republic wants.

I think the Jedi needs to stay far from any government agency. How are they supposed to do what they need to do if they're shackled by Alliance laws? Just leads right back to a situation like in the prequels.

Personally, I appreciated this event, not because it was strictly right, though it was, in several ways, but because it also depicted the "burdens" of good, and the treatment of heroes when they aren't actively in the momentbof fighting villainy, when some of these issues would be waived because their efforts, which also weren't being rewarded, were convenient. This kind of thing pops up in comics, too. Superman is often Earth's greatest hero, but he's also of a power level that, when he fights someone who can make him work for it, collateral damage happens. Whole buildings; city blocks might get pulverized. Who pays to repair them? Superman? Bruce Wayne? Lex Luthor? The taxpayers of Metropolis? If someone else got hurt, is there any recourse for them? Do they sue Superman? The villain? The city? Batman savagely pulverized thugs. Because he isn't a law enforcement officer, or part of the system, I don't think people he stops can be regularly arrested; evidence chains are broken, and excessive violence committed. He's going to probably combine physical injuries that will take the longest to heal with psychological terror that this could happen again, to keep them off the streets for as long as possible, and that could be mortifying to authorities. I'm not saying it's right, but there is that gap between what is right, and what people who want to do right do, especially when they have unique abilities.

@thinkintelligently5925

5 ай бұрын

I guess the short of it would really be do you want to punish or hinder the only being that could save earth from such a threat because doing so involves collateral damage? It's calculated risk/loss versus reward. I just don't see why you would put Superman in prison because he alone had the power to stop something that could destroy us all and, in the process, only at least LESS than that was destroyed. lol It doesn't make sense to blame the noun that caused less to be destroyed than the noun that would have destroyed everything in the absence of the previous. Unreasonable justice IMHO.

"Very well. I shall accept your terms and promise to never be involved unless you ask me too." *With that, Luke disappears into the crowd* The second any Sith or dark wielder exerts any sort of influence then the commoners are screwed.

Those who don the uniform and participate in battle don't return home after each battle to fill out paperwork or be questioned on the merits of their kills/maiming. Ideally, we as humans would be accountable and so, here too I believe it was a mistake for Luke, however well meaning and understanding as he may have been to agree to such things. The saviour of the galaxy and one who was forced to kill his own father(technically) should have some pull with regards to idiots requiring burials or prosthetics. She's lucky he didn't just mind trick her.

Just finished this series again but on audible. So good.

The Jedi should honestly make programs dedicated to teaching the galaxy as a whole the nature of the Force. I feel like it could go far in resolving issues like this if everyone understood how it all actually worked.

Yes the Jedi should have been held accountable, the problem with the way the author handled it is that they were held accountable before they'd done anything to be held accountable for. The law was retroactively applied, something that no democratic society would ever do, therefore in doing so the New Republic proved they where in fact the one's operated above the law, and so they are the ones who should have been held accountable, not Luke. Had they laid down the law and said from this date no Jedi is above the law and must conform to the same laws as the common folk, then that would have been the correct application.

Although Daala's arguments make a lot of sense and helped showed Luke that they need to remove themselves from the politics and machinery of the Galactic alliance as a whole to better serve the galaxy. As well as appear accountable to its citizens. Still think Daala had Machiavellian purpose for doing so to get Luke out of the way and a puppet installed at the head of the jedi order; kenth Hamner, who refused to act against the government even as Daala turned it into a dictatorship during fate of the jedi series or tried to..

Luke is a great Jedi Grandmaster. I can’t imagine what he was thinking when he was being asked to go into exile

It actually gets worse than this cause later on the Jedi fight among themselves and kill the acting Grandmaster

@VengeanceN7

5 ай бұрын

Kenth Hammner's death was a mistake, but the Jedi had to act. If they didn't the Sith would have caught them completely off-guard and how the greater advantage going forward.

@jakealter5504

5 ай бұрын

And daala gets far worse in how she handles the Jedi even after the Jedi try to play ball with her. She wouldn’t even let them examine the Jedi that went insane in order to try to figure out what was causing it and grew paranoid that the Jedi would try to take over the government

@lokiragnarok1881

5 ай бұрын

@@VengeanceN7 I do agree it was necessary but it wasn't really a mistake they were fighting each other with the intent to kill at the end and at the end it almost like no one even cared. It was the first time the Jedi made me go wtf

@VengeanceN7

5 ай бұрын

@@lokiragnarok1881 Does feel like they were headed for another schism, kinda means abeloth inadvertently forced to pull their act together.

@VengeanceN7

5 ай бұрын

@@jakealter5504 I cannot for the life of me ever understand Daala as reformed, she always held a grudge for Luke killing Tarkin and the First Deathstar. Just how she survives is by being an imperial hardliner and too stuborn unapologetic. I didnt finish Legacy before i read ftotj , HOW did Daala become CoS and was Luke involved?

I was thinking about this just the other day. What a coincidence.

I can only imagine what would’ve happened if Luke said that he was not going to be exiled?

As usual, better than what Disney thought up. Sigh.

It’s interesting because this is the same argument given in comics for why vigilantism is illegal. Just because someone has the ability to know the truth doesn’t put them above the law. The argument “because the Jedi said it was ok or because the Jedi did it” is no basis for a civilized system

Daala was such a good villian she was flawed and still a genius unlike the mary sue trawn. I read both series back when they were released and the zahn books were so boring since the villian was too perfect. Daala won a lot of battles yet she lost battles as well and it made her more grounded. Any time a fight broke out you knew the outcome until the final battle. The battles in those books went like this, Villian looks at artwork, says the heroes are going to do this and this, villian was right every time. Even in the final battle he was winning until his guard turned on him.

@Canbilly2

5 ай бұрын

Which showed one of Thrawn's flaws. Almost everything you said was utter tripe.

Just thinking, but isn't the reason so many Jedi turned under Luke, those being the more powerful ones at that, due to balance in the force. The fact is that the force will always try to balance itself no matter what. Therefore if the only force wielders at a time are majority light, the natural flow of the force will guide light users to the dark. Luke was the most powerful source of Light in the history of the Star Wars Universe and therefore it stands to reason that the more powerful jedi would be turned to even the scales.

Her argument is that morality isn't part of their legal system. Morality has never been part of our legal system either. She took the easy way out!

I don't call the old EU legends, it's far more faithful to George Lucas star wars than Disney star wars

@Moggzilla76

5 ай бұрын

Exactly! The "Legends" Novel's ARE the STORY and this DISNEY ABOMINATION is a LEGEND!!! More like a Damned NIGHTMARE!!! LONG LIVE Grandmaster Luke Skywalker, Leia Organa Skywalker Solo, Jaina, Jacen, Anakin Solo, Kipp Durran, Kyle Katarn, Korrin Hornn, BEN SKYWALKER AND MARA JADE SKYWALKER!!!

@chiquita683

5 ай бұрын

Disney isnt canon

@dragonmaster0626

5 ай бұрын

Facts

@mentalmandolorian5723

5 ай бұрын

Legends is by far better than whatever Disney has conjured out of its ass. Even its most ludicrous stuff is better by miles. The only time I would disagree is with some of the clonewars lore, but even that isn’t often

@Boneyard250

5 ай бұрын

Keep whining. It’s hilarious

I Want to Make it To Where Luke Force Heals Mara Jade and Leia's Daughter Force Heals Jacon Solo and Both of Their Lives have been saved and Jacon has been redeemed.

@BlackSteelKeyChain

5 ай бұрын

If only but Troy denning and his awful writing ruined that

@chancegarrison7636

5 ай бұрын

@@BlackSteelKeyChain at Least I Know That I'm The Better Writer 😌

Counter point. I have the force.

so which case from the Old Republic did Dala present? Revan would be unlikely, but Malak would make more sense.

@nathanielbables8652

5 ай бұрын

Yes, but from their perspective, modern UN using the crimes of Genghis Khan as legal precedent.

Read this book or trilogy or whatever, can't remember what, a little over a decade ago. I understand both sides, and agree with them. But let me ask you. If you dealt with something like this, then the force was screaming at you to be somewhere else, would you dutifully stay and fill out a complete report, or would you listen to the force, knowing entire planets hinged on your decision?

I think both sides were right the Force DOES change everything but that does not mean Jedi who are turn to the dark side on their own should not be bushed away when they break the law the former head of state may had good arguments againts Luke’s Jedi but she was mostly a former Imperal control freak and she was mostly lying to herself that it was not personal

@forcelightningcable9639

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for pointing out her control freak nature lol I was thinking the same thing (esp considering that people become controlling out of fear, and we all know where that leads)

@freedomdude5420

5 ай бұрын

​@@forcelightningcable9639 good thing she wasn't forced sensitive.👿

7:14 AI Yoda got prosthetic hands XD

This would have been a great story line to follow in the latests Disney sequels (notice I didn't say SW).

THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS

Sucks that all these stories made back then are now Legends, sure Disney (Filoni & Faveuro more so than Kennedy) are bringing them back but IMAGINE what the sequels woul've looked like IF these stories were canon. It would've reworked the entire storyline of what the sequels were and possibly could've been better than what we got. But those are only what ifs.

Just rewatched The Episode Where Kannan Jarrus Dies. It Hurt

Legends Republic is awful at times...a very satisfying moment in Legends is when Corran Horn refuses to become a Jedi in front of Borsk Fey'lya and then makes the entire Rogue Squadron quit on the spot.

@jedisenshi5510

5 ай бұрын

At the end of the novel, The Krytos Trap Borsk attempts to prevent Rogue Squadron from going after Ysanne Isard on Thyferra. He had intended to leave the former director of Imperial Intelligence to her own devices, as he did not wish the New Republic to be seen to involve itself in the internal affairs of non-member worlds. So Corran resigns and the rest of the Rogues follow.

without the exile, Luke and Ben would not have found Abaloth and found out how to defeat her

Consider whom she took as a lover, she has very little wiggle room to question anyone's morality. The entire body count of every Jedi in history would be a drop in the bucket compared to how many Tarkin killed. What a hypocrite!

@oddmanout8692

5 ай бұрын

And she admired him too.

Legends are the true sequels, love them

She honestly had a point but if u ask me the government and jedi relationship is toxic the so called "republic" needing them to solve there problems and then shuning them for basically what they use them for ...a saber is a saber

I never understood Disneys rationale that inorder to make their own material they needed to disparage all that came before. If they wanted their own nonskywalker based story, make it 1000 years into the future, problem solved and fans are happy u didnt destroy our heros....

This is like Star Wars meets Law & Order. It’s interesting 🤔

Her example was taken from the scene in episode 4, and the bar was "littered" with a total of 1 arm...😂🙄

This is what the sequels should have done, a way that makes sense for Blondie to accept exile. They could have said it was meant to end when he brought Kylo back to the light but eventually gave up after too many failed attempts that could have lead to Kylo killing the other students or turning them to the knights of ren, unless that is what he actually did... regardless, this could have made the sequels interesting.

I know super man of DC comics is not of the Star wars universe. Neither is Spiderman of the Marvel universe although Disney owns the rights of the latter now. But both are good examples of how super powered beings should behave. Both serve humanity and the earth and the laws. As Spiderman puts it great power brings great responsibility . Obviously Luke Skywalker of the EU continuity didn't realize this until he went on his exile. However if I remember he was invited by Daala to come back to the Alliance because of the issues with Abeloth in which not only the Jedi faced but a faction of the Sith on the outer territories who helped Luke Skywalker and his son as well. And also his son fell in love with a young Sith lady whose father was the leader of the sith faction.

@krispalermo8133

5 ай бұрын

I love the joke they inserted into the over story plot. A Sith Lord and Jedi master walk into a police station together in a polite social manner, why ? Their son and daughter was out after curfew. Other in each respected galaxy civilization their children are consider young adults in their early twenties. For that planet society, their children were still underage. The writing of the parents roasting their children like they were still teenagers was in my view very funny. Over the years I found people who had raised teenagers find the chapter more amusing.

This is what should have been Luke's story in the sequel trilogy. Although instead of Daala, Thrawn using those arguments to turn the galaxy against the Jedi. Maybe even start an internal civil war within the Jedi order itself over the situation.

I would argue that there is also another side to this argument that a Jedi is also allowed to act in self defense as Obi Wan had did so in EP4, and if we remove the fact that he was a Jedi from the equation that the Galactic Republic ( Or Galactic Alliance at this point in time) wouldn't even have cared. They do have a point, and the problem is that the Jedi have served the Republic and the Government so loyally that it brought the Jedi's destruction and ultimately its destruction and rule under the fists of Palpatine and Vader and had the Jedi not been so intertwined with politics, at the very least would have been much more difficult to wipe the Jedi out and much more difficult for Palpatine to take control. The Jedi serving the Government is what brought the galaxy to this point to begin with. She is ultimately wrong from this view.

Million times better story than "canon".

We should've seen this on the big or small screens. Now it's too late.

Six movies and the legend books are the true cannon

RIP Star Wars.

Granting certain individuals' special permission, they can be seen as above the law, which no one should be seen as even if one is a jedi.

This is why so many super heroes have secret identities. Batman and his kids would have had these problems if they didn't wear masks. If the government had a problem with them, they had to find them first. I think the Jedi should have tried to be less publicly involved. I think this may be why Sith often wore masks and changed their names. This situation is exactly why Spiderman, Batman, Superman and many others lead a double life and wear outfits that hide their true identity.

You are correct, from a certain point of view.

Just think if luke took the dark saber what could have happened

It all sounds good until someone becomes a sith somewhere and no jedi around...oops

I cannot agree with Daala here for multiple reasons. Most come from my own views on accountability and how I see it as more of a problem most of the time. Also, I believe in doing what needs to be done, consequences be damned.

It’s a great story, and it shows what an honorable character Luke is in legends. It’s funny to me though, that Luke or anyone would take that talk from an Imperial. Basically a Nazi telling a Jedi that think they are above the law when the Imperials did a lot worse.

So it kind of goes down to this. The opposition is saying that if the Jedi knew what the person was going to do, they should have just used the force to subdue them. The Jedi are saying well If I know who they are, where their heart is and where they are headed to act etc. Then I did the right thing. So, if the opposition believes they are in tune enough with the force 1 way than why not the other and stop basing it on so many seeming assumptions.

The whole argument stands on stupidity ground. First of all should we exile every teacher whoes students commit a crime??? Second the bar fight... If one side takes out a gun (To shoot another person) is cutting down an arm really that big a deal, compared to idk not doing anything and letting people kill eachother 😅😅

I would have just had all Jedi withdraw and let the galaxy figure out life all on. Their own. Don’t call us for help.

W vid

I'd say it's more about the trust of the people. The Jedi can do a thing and it be right, but look very bad to anyone else, like the severing of limbs. These "good" actions can easily be seen as evil by the public, especially if there is no real responsibility taken. Luke just made the choice that had to be made unfortunately, since the Jedi can't as easily operate without the trust of the people and also their government. Accountability would especially be more important to the people of that time, with the Jedi's name being bismirched for decades at this point.

I think you’re hitting on something that far deeper than what people may think, if the Jedi were acting in such a way to be above the law, because their belief system was saying such thing or teaching such a thing. in my eyes, that would put them on the dark side. they lost their ability to sense the dark side because they were part of the dark side to make themselves, judge jury and executioner, when the force is within everything? and the self denial of these things blinded them. makes sense to me. I don’t believe there is a light or dark side. There is just the force.

Because Kathleen Kennedy decreed it... "Luke must be destroyed" she said, so she may have her self insert rise to take the savior mantle.

Ironic. Luke was also taught by a Jedi who's pupal turned to the Darkseid, had a green lightsaber, was the Grand Master, failed to beat Palpatine, and went into volintary exile.

I think the Jedi should simply never have joined to GA in the first place and the second the GA started medaling in Jedi affairs they should have left with Luke simply telling the Imperial that they of all people had NO Right to tell the Jedi how to operate as it was under there rule that the Old Jedi were wiped out in the first place. So if they wanted to try the Jedi then the Jedi would simply leave the Republic and sever all ties and even suggest that they should never have rejoined in the first place given how badly the previous Republic had screwed them over. The Jedi as of now would retreat from all Republic member worlds and return to their ancestral homes on which no Republic dignitaries were allowed to step foot and the Jedi would never again interfere with Republic affairs or save them until they felt that the Galactic Populus had changed their tune and even then they still may not return. Any attempts to interfere with Jedi affairs would now be met with strict recourse as the Jedi were no longer tied to the Republic or bound by its laws or petty biacracy

He was just like his father who never became #TDBank💳 card holder... 🌎💘💰

Hello there!

@andreytcd

5 ай бұрын

Aah, Generrral Kenobii

It was not New Republic... It was Galactic Federation of Free alliances...

They have to be accountable

Im not gonna lie, but hearing how Luke was getting challenged for everything he was saying reminded me of how gun owners feel trying to defend themselves against people trying to cause harm to them and their own government.

I dont agree with luke having to pay for past mistakes if the jedi its disneys fault this is even a thing plus the jedi order was destroyed by vader and the clones. In tales if the jedi we see dooku seeing corruption of senate and jedi acting like police but judge n jury too i agree there council felt like court. The jedi lost their way in clone wars and became soldiers something that qui gon said were keepers of the peace not soldiers

This is true canon.

Still is less ridiculous than what Disney has made. Aside from Rogue One and Mando season 1, everything else sucks ass. Characters can only be as smart as their writers, seeing what they've done with Thrawn, Disney went full ruhtard!

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8:14 you think they would have done something with that big ass whitehead under his lip. He has a lightsaber, pop that thing!

Rule of law must be independent of your power. be it money or the force. they should face the law as much as any other citizen.

@nadjasunflower1387

5 ай бұрын

yup...rule of law...full of corruption, and malice of self serving beings who guide it's use for their own purposes. lol

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Daala is right in a way. In a way. Jedi should work with police force more. Jedi often act above the law. Sometimes. It's great Luke decided to investigate Jacen's fall. And he brought Ben with him. Jedi shouldn't have special priviliges. They should help the law when needed and go about their business when needed.They should not be held accountable. It's good Luke went to Ossus to their Temple with his apprentices to learn deeper mysteries of the Force. While investigating what happened to Jacen.May the Force be with you too😊

@naosoupatriota9902

5 ай бұрын

that is exatly what old jedi republic did

@Gor85

5 ай бұрын

@@naosoupatriota9902 they should have pull away from Government influence. To return to themselves. Of course they should help the Republic but not at all cost

@naosoupatriota9902

5 ай бұрын

@@Gor85 religion and state doesn't mix well. that's the lesson to learn.

@Gor85

5 ай бұрын

@@naosoupatriota9902 agreed. it's a catastrophe. we saw what happened throughout history. we are just starting to learn. people just need time

If the Jedi are held accountable, the Sith win. There is no longer any reason to become a Jedi and every reason to become Sith.

Why Darth "Kai-dus?" I think it should be pronounced Darth Cee-dus.

The GA not the New Republic

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I hate to say it but…I have to agree with Dala. That bejng said I ALSO agree with LUKE.