IMO The lore of Evangelion is a honey trap for fans to get lost in, until we realize the true meaning of self actualization that Anno has clearly laid out for us. Both EoE and the Rebuild series are his extra effort to give the fans what they think they love, while further weaving “the message” in.

@tonyfunk

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I agree with your assessment, but Anno didn't make nonsensical plot elements for the sake of it. If you look closely, everything has a reason symbolic or otherwise despite it seeming like everything was random at first glance.

@AJBelieve

Жыл бұрын

@@tonyfunk Agreed, although there are some events in 3.0+1.0 that made me wonder if it is nonsense for nonsenses sake. The 3.0 world is, in my opinion, the world we create for ourselves when we can’t let go. All alone on a dead planet with our waifus. 😆 But there are two facts every Eva fan will mature into knowing: 1) Ritsuko is not only best girl, but the only ethical choice 2) “Congratulations” was the best ending, but we wouldn’t let it die, and so we were dragged through Hell with Anno in hopes we could get it on the 2nd or 3rd try.

@tentativelonginus1036

11 ай бұрын

The plot is very nonsensical and sometimes very poorly executed until you delve into other eva related media like the games or the wiki. I watched the series recently with my girlfriend and she legit did not understand a single thing about the plot, and she’s right because because most of what I know came from reading about it lmfao. Eva is still and forever will be my favorite series or franchise even, I’ve seen it way too many times and it’s my comfort show when I’m feeling down or lost, because aside from the thick as fuck plot there’s an underlying message of hope, finding our place in the world, carving our own path and never running away from the hardest obstacle in life.

About Wille, you forgot this term has a strong relationship with 19th century german philosophy. Arthur Schopenhauer (the one who coined the hedgehogs dilemma) wrote all humans are guided by a Wille zu Leben (Will to live/survive), and we do not see objective reality, but our will to live determines how we see reality. For example, when we see a beautiful flower and an approaching tiger, we focus on the tiger and ignore the flower, because the actions of the tiger might be more important for our survival. But basically, our will to live causes all our suffering according to Schopenhauer. So, to free ourselves, we need to get rid of our will to live.This does not mean suicide. Schopenhauer thought Suicide paradoxically is caused by our will to live. A suicidal person does not accept his given life but wants a better life for him. This causes him to despair and to try killing himself. The true solution is basically to overcome our desires and to become indifferent. Not by seeking death, but basically becoming indifferent. Not to fear death but not to want death either. (Basically, he proposed a buddhist monk like living. Schopenhauer was one of the first people who brought eastern thought to germany. Then came Nietzsche who took Schopenhauer but basically reverse it. Nietzsche thought human culture and especially western culture became life denying. Basically, life means to suffer and to get hurt sometimes, but the bad sides of life are also part of life. You cannot embrace life if you do not want to get hurt ever. You should embrace life despite it being sometimes terrible. He thought humans seeked calmness, serenity and absence of danger etc. And this made humans dull, nihilist etc. And he rejected calling the force "will to live", because he thought people often for great goals were willing to risk their life. So , survival is just a part of this. You want to live because you want to do great things with your life. So, he thought people did not desire primary life, but primary power. The will to stay alive is just a part of the will to get power. (You basically see the Eva connection here.) Then, Freud came. He put two main instincts next to each other. He thought there is the will to love (which includes Nietzsches embrace of life. People are willing to suffer for love.) and procreation, and in contrast a will to death (Thanatos, like the song which plays when Rei blows up her eva.) Thanatos strives for Thanatos, lack of struggle and conflict and ultimately can destroy you. (So, basically, what Nietzsche described as the sickness of european civilisation and the rejection of life is in Freudian thinking, the embrace of Thanatos.) In britain. there is also aleister crowley who combined Nietzsche with some aspects of Kant and occultism and talked about the True Will. Basically your true will is some accomplishment you dream of and are willing to spend your life on. Basically you sacrifice your life to your true will.

@barronasi_4737

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this comment! Was curious where you learned about all this philosophy bc I’ve come to these conclusions before naturally

@reptilianreptile4506

11 ай бұрын

Holy shit, what a stellar and underrated comment

@Laevateinn-

7 ай бұрын

slowclap

@inyrui

6 ай бұрын

A lot of Evangelion also relates to G.W.F Hegels philosophies as well, in relationion to self awareness and consciousness. The entire 26th episode of the original series is peppered with ideas that Hegel talks about in his works, especially the part about how you can only define the "shape" of yourself by seeing where others "shapes" begin and yours end, and how human consciousness requires other people and objects to "prove" its own existence. It really explains a lot of what's happening in human instrumentality and why Shinji rejects it

This movie was so confusing, that despite your amazing explanation, it still made no fricking sense. I shall now rewatch every 10 second interval about 5 times to drill this Anno-penned-lunacy into my brain, translated by you. Thank you for the video.

@tonyfunk

Жыл бұрын

Thanks again man! I'm excited for you to watch the last film because things get even worse. But thankfully I have a video that might be able to help. Once again I appreciate your comments!!!

@lockskelington314

Жыл бұрын

I think It being Confusing is the Point of the Series. So people keep going back to re-watching it.

@JesBdoinItAgain

11 ай бұрын

all the lore i got from watching the og and the rebuild is, imagine fnaf 3 but it's the bad ending, leaving you with trauma and an odd feeling in your heart meanwhile the rebuild is like that, but you played all the mini games and got the good ending, eventually all that lore thinking was lift up from your shoulders

@capthawkeye8010

11 ай бұрын

If one watches 3.0 as the first half of 3.0 + 1.0 it's easier. I always loved 3.0 even before we get Final, it's way more adventurous than just a remake of the last third of the series. (Which in many ways, it still is.)

Sheesh, and i thought Twin Peaks was complicated. Amazing work piecing all this together!!

@tonyfunk

Жыл бұрын

Thanks bro!!! I really appreciate it! And yea Hideaki Anno must be a Twin Peaks fan eh? lol

Dude I’ve seen So Many Evangelion Analysis videos and yours is BY FAR the best and I actually understand the story now thanks to you. Amazing

All of Evangelion happened because a god failed his one job

@Thewingsoffreedom.

Ай бұрын

Who are you dictating the job of God and his ways and deeming He failed? Is it really impossible for you to imagine at least a little bit why He doesn't revolve morals and reality that He made around human ego especially YOU? I know you feel a lot of suffering and pain, but one thing atheists and anti-christs always fail to understand, your suffering is actually caused by your own rejection that always results in the lack to no blessing which actually God always gives freely. Evil always happens because of disconnection from Jesus and real fulfillment can only be achieved by accepting Him and His laws. Please remember that. God bless you.

@JordanKeuring

Ай бұрын

He is not taking about the God of real life. Notice he said "a god." He's talking about the ancestral race from Evangelion. Please calm down.​@@Thewingsoffreedom.

@randallbesch2424

Ай бұрын

@@Thewingsoffreedom. belief systems are as strong as you see them and it permeates your vision of the world. It doesn't need to be real to be accepted as such. I see it all the time in the billions of humans that find such theosophies useful for survival and population genetics shows the trait is necessary for Humanity's general survival for the nonce should the environment change radically enough such beliefs will lose their use and the species will need literally adapt or die out. Such is how Evolution works.

@goobergob

29 күн бұрын

@@Thewingsoffreedom. you doin to much

Great work trying to make sense of this installment! This one is kinda my least favorite in the rebuilds but your analysis definitely made me appreciate it more

Best breakdown and hypothesis to make sense of the events from the second to the third movie, It would really be nice if they will release a final movie explaining the events before movie 3

i love watching listening to other people's takes on eva... its fun to have nice discussions with other eva fans. great vid :)

I didn't feel the closure until i finished this video lol its been 19 years T.T of "what?" , lol ty

Yo this is freaking awesome

This reminds me how I theorized about the rebuilds playing AFTER "Neon Genesis Evangelion". (around the second rebuild movie I was convinced about this) I imagined DNA was an importnat link. Like as if the time and genes were a repetetive mathematical equation repeating until the cycle is broken by "the next step" which was something that apparently Yui tried by flying through the universe in the body of an Eva. It wouldn't even have been weird in regards to Hideaki Anno. Around that time flying away from the planet in the womb of his mother might've totally been a thing he thought about as a story.

@tonyfunk

Жыл бұрын

That's an interesting theory man! I agree it wouldn't have been out of character for Hideaki Anno to incorporate a concept like that into the rebuilds. It would've made for a cool addition to the lore in terms of expanding human instrumentality as some kind of universal version of this conscious travelling.

...the explanation is thorough, and leaves me even more confused. I enjoyed it

Commenting for the algorithm. This should have 400k views

Thanks for watching the rebuild movies so that I don't have to (!).

@tonyfunk

Жыл бұрын

Any time dood, I gotchu. 😎

So, basically, one moon is held The Purity of Essence, while the other, held The Purity of Form. Combined they'll ascend to become the ancient race craeting them, basically a Xel'naga. 🙄 Someone been playing Starcraft, or reading its lore, before writing Eva again. 😬

@user-zg3gh8xg9v

Жыл бұрын

That is how I simplify this. Haven't played the game but searched for its lore.

@user-ez2yn7bb8g

2 ай бұрын

😅

Your explanation clears some things up for me. It makes me think that Shinji will end up transcending Humanity and might become of the Original Race that created Adam and Lilith. And maybe that was the whole point as how could The Divine Race make the mistake of have 2 Seeds of Creation land in the same place? My thought is they're not a dying race but rather have a complex manner of which they can reproduce and Need to Have to Create a Lilin with an Adam Soul transcend like he almost did.

@tonyfunk

Жыл бұрын

That's a very interesting and unique take! It's definitely thought provoking and would have some pretty cool implications about the purpose of Instrumentality.

@lockskelington314

Жыл бұрын

@@tonyfunk He is the only Human we ever see Transcend.

@rovgor

3 ай бұрын

You could see it in a way, that the ancient race is us, the real world humans, the real world animators of the anime, that created the whole thing. The anime is about fleeing from reality into the comforting world of anime and wants to show all weebs out there to not run away from their real lifes. In the end of 3.0+1.0 shinji transcends into the real world, the world without evas, after he managed to understand the beauty and pain of life. And I strongly think that Anno wanted the viewer to do exactly this too.

@randallbesch2424

Ай бұрын

@@rovgor if humans were this then they fell ages ago and aren't what they use to be. So different they are aliens to these entities.

this man anno deserves to be under observation for the rest of his life and not be made to write another story ever again. Because i have realised his plan, he wants us to think and recearch so hard that our brain becomes LCL(tang) and this his version of human instrumentality.

"[...] and require extra Fourth Impact ingredients." It's like baking a cake!

@tonyfunk

Жыл бұрын

lmaoooo Albeit a very dangerous cake...

How tf is this channel so small?! Dude your content is great and I’m very thankful for this video, cuz I found rebuilds very interesting but confusing! Wish you luck with your channel🍀

@tonyfunk

Жыл бұрын

Thanks man, means a lot!!!

Man I really wanna tell you... you're fucking brilliant. Ofc i see (duh) that many pieces are still missing or are unclear, but your analysis are so sharp that I cant help but appreciate your work. As a philosophy student myself, i'll probably rewatch and analyze everything on my own just to try to see if i can catch something alone but surely all of your work will help me out immensely You really dont have the visibility that you deserve imho

@tonyfunk

Жыл бұрын

Thanks man I really appreciate it, this comment means a lot! And a tip for your own viewing, always watch it with subtitles, (doesn't matter if its dub or sub) you pick up more information if you read it! That's the key! Good luck!

I don't think I will ever get over what a masterpiece 3.3 and whole NGE iss. I was depressed I was angry I was hopeful and then crying again it's beautiful and yet bittersweet..off I still have to watch videos like yours to get a grasp at all lore cos it can be so confusing af

love the video:)

@tonyfunk

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! That means a lot!!!!

@JuhusOnY

Жыл бұрын

@@tonyfunk keep up the great work! im looking forward new stuff:))

@tonyfunk

Жыл бұрын

Thanks again! More cool stuff to come!

Misato literally told Shinji to do it and cause the impact to save Rei, and then in the movies, she suddenly hates him and wants him locked up 😂 That shit doesn't make sense.

@konstantink07

6 ай бұрын

she doesn't hate him at all. Watch 4.0. She has a similar relationship to him as she has to her own son

@Aya_nami

Ай бұрын

Suddenly? 14 years passed but still she doesn’t hate him, I think it could be other things like the anger of him being gone for so long or not being able to protect him in the past, but definitely is not hate

That thumbnail has so much meme potential.

Man makes Gods, man becomes Gods, Man replaces one God with another. The circle of Celstrial Existence.

imagine calling Shinji and Kaworu friends lmao

@chuckfinley1894

9 ай бұрын

He nailed everything else but then said this

@wednesdaygeckok.7899

9 ай бұрын

Imagine not knowing from Shinjis' perspective they're friends lmao

@kyrem-hunter7821

9 ай бұрын

from Shinjis perspective they're having gay sex

@williamcopeland4110

4 ай бұрын

He literally says their friends.

no mames que le atinó a todo lo que sí se reveló en la última, qué GOD

@tonyfunk

Жыл бұрын

Jaja gracias we!

I personally dont think the Seele members are embedded in the monoliths in the Original. You can see the Head of them in End of Evangelion turning to LCL under the Influence of Lilith. There has to be something gone wrong after end of evangelion that caused the mebers to transfer into pure "Floatbrains" there is something anno didn't tell us about them that forced them to this step.

glad you put An Evangelion 3.33 Analysis after "why God must DIE" now we all know ur not mentally insane but metaly unstable

@tonyfunk

Жыл бұрын

Lmao true tho. XD

@spade8094

Жыл бұрын

​@@tonyfunkwhy blame him, what did he do?

@tonyfunk

Жыл бұрын

@@spade8094 What, who? God? He did nothing, but in the context of this film both Seele and Gendo plotted to kill the deities in order to prevent reversals of their scenarios; hence the title.

I remember the theory that the rebuilds are somehow a sequel to end of eva even certain moments paralling eachother

@jaydenlopez3636

6 ай бұрын

Well that technically was true unfortunately

I’m glad I’m not the only one who sees the resemblance between Grand Moff Tarkin and Grand Cuck Tarkin.

28:25 If you are looking for evidence for a Yui - Mari connection, look no further than the final bonus chapter from the manga.

Some how it feel even more confused after I looked at this clip than before.

Wait. Are you telling me there is a non-zero chance this whole "rebuild" thing will boil down to "we are all Gendou Ikair's abandoned soulless children" Battlestar Galactica style????

Do the number of adams being 4 coincide with the number of loops? Even though we see numerous coffins on the moon... maybe 4 are the amount of loops that have passed certain thresholds/number of steps of the deadsea scrolls, lining up with the og series, eoe, manga, and rebuild?

dawg, adam arrived on earth, and was ready to colonize the planet, untill some other mf also goes into your planet, disables you to making any colonizations and then has the audacity to say that they were the victim

TO SKIP 35 MINUTES kawuro is the messiah in evangelions universe who sacrifices himself

@randallbesch2424

Ай бұрын

Messiahs whether light or dark sacrifice at the end of their use. Seems to be their pattern of function.

At the end of Eva movie, there's an Adam and Lilith technically in the unit 1. Along with chunks of Gendo. Evangelion is story that repeats. 🤷

bro guessed the plot bruh

what do you mean by suspended animation in 15:34?? does it mean shinji didnt grow old??? btw I did not watch 3.33 yet I'me here in yt for clarifications first

I'm watching this after only really having watched analysis of the first series, and it's bugging me out quite a bit lmao

@Sesshyru

11 ай бұрын

Which analysis did you watch?

@WhenLifeGiveYouLimes

11 ай бұрын

@@Sesshyru I think it was one of the "NGE Explained" videos, but I don't remember exactly which one

Why do the depictions of Adam as an EVA have Pylons? I thought those were addons if present at all to the armor of the EVAs and not an actual part of them?

Is Funk your real last name? I only ask because I live in Missouri and I know there are several families with that name around here.

@tonyfunk

Жыл бұрын

Haha, no it's just a silly pseudonym I came up with!

I don’t think you can really use things from the rebuilds to justify things in NGE or EOE, like how Seele is indeed just using some cool discord pfp’s in NGE, but are the monoliths in the rebuilds.

HOLI SHET, cause of too much technical information from you, i needed to slow down the pace to 0.75 in order to understand you better

@randallbesch2424

Ай бұрын

What ever works use it!

"This is Mary's mom"... Buahahahahaha.....

i love evangelion lore and the explanations in this video series, but trying to understand everything is like being in AP calculus as a freshman in high school. you though you were the shit ad knew everything but you have no idea what you're getting yourself into

Lilith isn’t holder of the seed of wisdom and knowledge ? The last film answers lots of theories presented here

@randallbesch2424

Ай бұрын

Lilith is looked upon as a renegade against God's plan and will so she gets cursed to become a Monster Mother like Echidna and Kali-Ma.

I think there is 4-5 Adam's. There is picture of 4 Babylonian kings and one more with wings. And that isn't Mary's mom. I think it is Mary herself. Maybe this from another youtuber.

Grand Moff Fuyutsuki 😂

The “Adam” on the moon isn’t adam it’s Lillith. It’s mask matches lillith’s mask while the “lillith” nerv has is actually adam. It’s a divergence in the timeline. In the original show they thought nerv was holding adam and it was a surprise when it turned out they were really holding lillith. The rebuild timeline has the same scene of the reveal to misato and instead of misato being surprised and thinking it’s adam she’s surprised thinking it’s lillith. The being nerv is holding also has a mask which matches the look of the angels. So in the rebuild selle is control of lillith on the moon and nerv is in control of adam. I don’t know the implications of this but I think this is the source of the differences in gendo’s and selle’s plans from the plans in the original series.

@wednesdaygeckok.7899

9 ай бұрын

Okay so bit of an issue with your claim. They refer to unit 6 as a vessel of the Adams therefore its not lilith. And Eva Imaginary in 3.0+1.0 is also proof perfect of this being that Shinji refers to it as "black lilith" and Gendoh doesnt say nuh uh its adam he says it certainly looks that way doesnt it.

why must God die hes a good guy

what is the third impact

#Tony Funk the multi copys make sense if you know about the time loop there kzread.info/dash/bejne/p5mJx69_kqrXadI.html

@tonyfunk

Жыл бұрын

Whoa, thanks! I'll give it a watch!!!

It was obvious that she was a clone of his mother i at least to me

@randallbesch2424

Ай бұрын

Clones are individuals after all.

say lay

which god are you talking about? arent the FAR supposed to be the gods?

That's not Mary mom that's Mary.... I thought i finally understand Evangelion until the 3.0+1.0 Also. What happened to Asuka and all the soul after Shinji changed the world

@tonyfunk

Жыл бұрын

I address Mari's actual situation in my 3.0+1.01 analysis! Also, they get reinstated back into the new reality via Evangelion imaginary.

I am still confused 😕

girl WHAT

@JuhusOnY

Жыл бұрын

same

haters gonna hate.

@tonyfunk

Жыл бұрын

That they will. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Didn't you have a video explaining your theory behind the rebuilds third impact?

@tonyfunk

Жыл бұрын

I explain it briefly at the end of my 2.2 rebuild video but I've never made a video that focused entirely on the third impact.

@finecastleie

Жыл бұрын

@@tonyfunk Ah, now I remember! I thought it was somewhere there, thank you. Love these reviews.

@tonyfunk

Жыл бұрын

@@finecastleie Anytime! And thanks!!

Man, this was difficult to follow, you could've avoided using words like "biomass" for body and it would've made a lot more sense lol, other than that good work

Nobody knows whats happening. even the people that made it

Someone please remind me. What is the correct order to watch All three universes?

@tonyfunk

Жыл бұрын

Neon Genesis Evangelion, then End of Evangelion, then Rebuild. The manga could be read before that order or after although it'd be best if it was read before as it covers a lot of lore.

i just give up on understanding evangelion

"why God must die" *oh slow down there buddy*

bro why gendo touched rei breast with his adam hand 💀💀🤡🤡

Wtf is going on?

The way he pronounces the names causes me pain.

@tonyfunk

Жыл бұрын

I tend to pronounce things phonetically when I have no idea how dubs or the English fandom arbitrarily decide to pronounce things. Tomato Tomahtoh

26:41 .. You SAID there were 'Four' ancestors, Right? .. So they each probably had their own divine weapons, Or at least some of them did. Why wouldnt they. AND they probably were trying to conceive of ways to preserve their lineage innumerable more than just the lilith and adam-things, To the LAST pitaful-breath of theirs. Wouldnt you or anyone after all. Since they were 'Dying out..' That also doesnt sound like they were entirely ''Divine'' if such was the case. There was and remains things far beyond their abilities and longevity in this franchise.

what

In the manga, Mari is shown hanging out with Yui, which is both a cute story and pretty interesting.

this is so confusing

Dear friend from the US: When trying to pronounce foreign words, use the text to speech features that come with many dictionaries nowadays, including google translate. The German word "Seele" for example isn't pronounced "Silo". I know it's hard for you because you don't know any foreign language, but please give it a try.

@tonyfunk

Жыл бұрын

I corrected my pronunciations in the 3.0+1.0 video to match more closely to the original pronunciations of the words. Not that it matters but English isn't even my first language so before you decide to say passive aggressive remarks you should probably know something about the person you're referring to.

@Sebastian-hg3xc

11 ай бұрын

@@tonyfunk Good to hear that you finally went ahead and fixed your pronounciation, but with all due respect, I'll formulate my criticism the way I like. The harshness here is very much necessary because you are one of a large amount of people on KZread that simply don't care and keep butchering my native tongue.

Comm8ng from reading the Bible and adding to this anine it makes so so much sense in a creepy I see both side way but at the end God only wants to end the suffering of mortals by being one with God pyre souls joining God's kingdom to finally be at peace, free will got us humans in this wicked mess we must gladly give God our hearts and purify our souls from sin to be one and no longer have freewill

All this feels needlessly complicated. That's not how you write a story. At least not a good one.

@randallbesch2424

Ай бұрын

It is if it really is complicated as it builds on itself. But please make it needfully simple.

nothing you say makes sense this show and movie reproduction makes no sense

bwahaha "When Kaoru got catsup'd" genius