10:17, dude that weight class is so deep, he could do all the right things and still not win a match. I might not be correct about everyone but he has: Nick Suriano, Daton Fix, Ethan Lizak, Nashon Garret, Vitali Arujua, Seth Gross, Joe Colon, Cory Clark, Spencer Lee, Darian Cruz, Jesse Delgado, Nico Megeludas, Tony Ramos, Nathan Tomasello, Maybe Desanto and RBY. He has shown he can definitely beat all of them but a handful of these guys could beat him. Guys the list goes on!!! The round of 16 is going to look like the NCAA finals. His bracket and the weight above is going to be stacked from top to bottom, especially since it's an olympic year. My gosh, the only thing I can predict is some scrappy, entertaining, high flying wrestling matches early on

@MoistMayonnaise

4 жыл бұрын

Tony Ramos left his shoes on the mat didnt he?

@kenonoke1395

4 жыл бұрын

So true but he’ll compete

@kenonoke1395

4 жыл бұрын

He made a good move for him it’s hard to focus when the guy u hear & talk abt is there , he needs to train a different way & seeing Spencer lee yes it’s good but it would be hard the focus Would be on them 2 all day

Anyone remember when Gilman called Ramos a traitor because he left Iowa?!

@nailbenderMatt

4 жыл бұрын

flip11C I think Gilman is seeing what Ramos, Metcalf, and others have.

@michaelbradley7621

Жыл бұрын

Yea Iowas style is outdated. Their wrestlers always seem to be worn out and beaten up, more so than other wrestlers, at the middle go end of the season. After centuries of development, some people are starting to understand that in general More/harder work != higher quality,

@antisocialmedia2507

Жыл бұрын

That is when he was still brainwashed. Spencer came along and he found out who mattered. I am sure he realizes now why psu is so successful, everybody matters.

@duby5465

10 ай бұрын

Lol

Gilman has made a career out of not pulling punches, not bs'ing, and being straight forward and blunt. I don't think we have any reason to believe he's not guarded and hiding things.

@vernonfrance2974

3 жыл бұрын

I agree he's guarded and hiding things which is what you said when you said "I don't think we have any reason to believe he's not guarded and hiding things."

Makes sense to me. Can't wait to see Spencer Lee run up the score on him too!

The way Gillman looked I dont think Spencer Lee would have beat him. Thomas Gillman looked different at the olympic tournament. He looked like he was on the matt processing that crazy Old Man strength. Like it or not Old Man Strength is for real

@apollo105

Жыл бұрын

I think your vastly underestimating spencers technical abilities. Granted in hs he had much more of a hard nosed style but in college hes truly developed even further as a technician. Truthfully spencer is the future of team usa and gilman will man the spot til hes healthy. I think everyone knows that including him.

If he wanted different or better training partners, he’s got Spencer Lee, the best possible one he could have

@FancoWrestling

4 жыл бұрын

I agree - there's not argument that Spencer Lee is one of the best in the country right now. However, there are different styles that could improve Gilman's technique. May as well try something new to gain an edge.

@christopherroth7239

4 жыл бұрын

In one of the interviews I saw with him he mentioned some of the differences he saw in the approach to practice when he was training in Russia. He also talked alot about getting out of his comfort zone. It sounds like was ready to try some new approaches to training. Broadening ones wrestling knowledge should never be discouraged.

@fredbouwman7218

4 жыл бұрын

But Lee is his main rival for the Olympic team. I wouldn't want to train with him either.

@parkerstrawn4883

4 жыл бұрын

So he wants to train with someone worse?

@antaidavis8839

4 жыл бұрын

@@parkerstrawn4883 Its really not about training with someone better or worse. These wrestlers are at the point where the only thing that can win them gold is themselves. A great or good training partner really isn't a big factor at this point. Their was clearly some form of turbulence in Iowa with spencer lee and the brands brothers to the point where gilman felt like he had no one really in his corner.

Good video as always bro

@FancoWrestling

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Gilman is a very cerebral person. He sees that he is on his way out of favor with the Brand’s & there is a new “ Flavor of the month”. Cejudo,, Zadick, Metcalf, McDonough, and Ramos all experienced this. There is no doubt that at some point so will Lee in coming years. The Brands’ do not have loyalty as a strong trait. There is no doubt about their wrestling ability. But, their long term (much past college) commitment to people is fickle. Let’s face it. The Univ of Iowa cares about NCAA titles. If a wrestler goes on to International success great. But the Bo$$ cares about college wrestling, not World & Olympic glory. The Brands’ like to keep the Boss happy.

@dylanb2086

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. It is sad to see as all those guys were so dedicated at the program at some point. I really don’t like the way they treat their wrestlers - they ruined Spencer Lee’s body.

I believe probably all of those factors had an impact to some degree, but the most significant has to be training in State College offers him something new and the ability to improve in ways that he wouldn’t get in Iowa, mixed with the Spencer Lee issue, which I don’t care what he says, that had to have some kind of impact and probably a pretty big one. But one thing you can’t argue with, the move to State College was the right choice and Gilman not only improved significantly, but he appears to have matured. I don’t believe that kind of growth would have occurred in Iowa, either on the mat or personally.

Fresh approach to challenge who maybe his toughest challenge in Lee. Not that lee is his only challenge. Couple that with his wife ‘s family and it all makes sense to me.

His dad wrestled for my rival school in council bluffs Iowa

Where can I watch this wrestling? I watch ncaa on tv but I can't ever find world wrestling

@normanhuntley5747

2 жыл бұрын

Flo wrestling is probably the best imo,but 125.00 a year! Sometimes the quality isn't there,but I get it,because there not a permanent location,so they are not centrally located.

Chael Sonnen told him to

@Rambo17401

4 жыл бұрын

Jair Suchite Chael knows best

People, People, perhaps 35 years ago, some asked coach Gable, why do you have such a tough schedule? His reply: ''To be the best you have to wrestle the best'', Gilman knows that, pretty simple logic.

Plain and simple, why would he train with or very close to most likely his toughest competition. Isnt this pretty much what Ramos did for the same reason

Sanderson is someone he can learn another aspect of his wrestling growth.

Different training partners i can see that in a way but Gilman has always been a loyal Iowa guy so i dont see him leaving for that. Only way he leaves and joins State is he wasnt getn enough love from Iowa. He watches Spencer get all the love and then he feels like retaliating some with a jab of his own. What is the biggest jab he could throw? Id say joining PS's Wrestling Club is a very good jab. It wasnt easy on his ego rolling with Spencer so i get it. One thing is the Iowa support he once had will go and in the end Spencer will get the spot anyway. Sports from college to pro's used to have unbelievable loyalty between the athletes the team and community . It doesnt mean much these days.

@FancoWrestling

4 жыл бұрын

Gilman is definitely "Mister Iowa" with his walk, his talk, his style - everything. In my opinion this is bigger than Snyder leaving Ohio State just because of how loyal Gilman was/is to Iowa. I agree this couldn't have been an easy decision, but he may as well try something different if he wants to beat Spencer, Fix, and the other guys at 57kg next year.

I'm sure Spencer had something to do with it, but I honestly believe that he feels that if he wants to get better as an international wrestler, he needs to change the area and the instructors up, and WHERE better to go, than State College with Cael??

Could you do your top ten singlet designs based on coolness and not on history

@adamrice5267

4 жыл бұрын

If it's based on coolness then IOWA will win EVERYTIME! GO HAWKS

@FancoWrestling

4 жыл бұрын

Cool idea - are there any that stand out to you?

@adamrice5267

4 жыл бұрын

@Kevin Torres dont be a hater, if it says IOWA it's a winner

@barton2851

4 жыл бұрын

Fanco Wrestling no not really

It was Mark Perry that moved to ASU not Mark Branch.

He left because Penn state offered him a good paying job. Iowa didn't have a job to offer him. Tons of Iowa wrestlers coach in the Big 10. In fact, many Big 10 coaches are Iowa wrestlers.

Awesome

Seems to have had a pretty good return on investment.

Lee is not wrestling right now due to his knee injuries. I realize this came out first.

I think the PSU 125 issues are solved now..who's not going to want to be in a room where you have Gilman as a training partner.

@adenmcmahan4365

4 жыл бұрын

D B No matter what, I think Iowa will always be the best for lightweights, they are coached closely by Tom and terry brands, inside of Dan gables program, and throughout the years have produced so many elite it’s hard to list. Spencer lee, tony Ramos, Dan Dennis, Thomas Gilman, Tom and terry, and just countless others. I think for a 125 Tom and terry have way more coaching ability than Cael. All love to both teams tho

@christopherroth7239

4 жыл бұрын

@@adenmcmahan4365 I agree with you but I do believe Gilman and RBY have the potential to get some top tier lightweights to Penn which will only add fireworks to the Iowa Penn State rivalry

my gues is that Gilman knew that his only chance to beat Lee out and get an olympic spot was to leave Iowa and try to get different training style in a different location. Its a waiting game now, I know Lee is tough but can he come back fully from double ACL surgery, will it hold or will it give out again. Dreams are dreams but you have to wonder how its all going to play out from here. I was never a big fan of Gilman even as an Iowa fan. His last couple years at iowa his attitude sucked almost like roid rage.

In an earlier flowrestling film he said he would never leave and they were his family😂

Remember the Ramos situation and that says it all he wanted to stay away from that. Good move Brands always has favorites Nuff said. Good move for Gillman.

How much do these rtc athletes make a year?

@FancoWrestling

4 жыл бұрын

Very good question. Most of it is hush, hush. A guy like Gilman who is a 3X AA and NCAA finalist likely makes 6 figures, but that's not confirmed. Guys are paid differently depending on how much funds a program has. Iowa and Penn State have lots of $$, but other small programs aren't so lucky and have to pay guys less.

@heathrobertson7987

4 жыл бұрын

Great question and even more shocking answer! Cool to hear even an educated guess, I had no idea

@adenmcmahan4365

4 жыл бұрын

Fanco Wrestling when you bring up credentials do you think their pay is affected off incoming credentials or results while in the club? How would someone like Kyle Dake be paid coming in a 4 time champ and a hide trophy winner compared to someone like Gilman?

Bottom line.... Spencer Freakin Lee Rules

@chokondese8184

4 жыл бұрын

You are everywhere

Mark Perry

Mark Perry, you said mark brands.

Mark Branch!?!?!? Mark Perry!!!!!! I wonder if Isaiah Martinez would follow Perry

If you are serious about wrestling WHY would you wrestle for any school other than Penn State, Oklahoma or Iowa?!?!?! Typically the guys wrestling for Cornell, Nebraska, VA Tech, Lehigh... they know they can't get a start position at a wrestling school so they settle or they need the scholarship and take what is offered. Look at the wrestlers at Cornell for instance - several won an NCAA championship as an underclassman just to get beat in a following year... SAD!

1) Spencer Lee 2) being near fiancés hometown 3) penn state being penn state

He leaving cuz Mark Parry that's why. Mark Parry left as well and that's his main coach.

Mark Perry, not Mark Branch.....

do you mean Mark Perry?

I thought Gilman didn’t make the lineup his freshman year

@caelanoakes890

4 жыл бұрын

He didn't, beat out by Clark

Fix is the front runner. Then Lee, then Gilman.

How much do wrestlers make on that world level?

@youarerightboss

4 жыл бұрын

A world of money.

Well you heard Gilman talk about spencer freaking lee it’s just up and comers nothing personal man you can’t have two guys competing for the same thing on the same team!

Spencer Lee is DIFFFFFFFENT. Next Henry Cejudo

Looks like he made the right choice though, it’s a shame Spencer Lee didn’t do the same thing.

No question the brands are loyal to their boss. If they want to make money and have a good life you work for you r boss and do what you r told that is win NCAA titles. I feel for all the guys that think they are there forever thats not how it works there.

Calling it right now. Spencer lee will go into the UFC at some point.

@qhimicoasesino2989

4 жыл бұрын

Nic_Ger no he won’t. Spencer Lee wants a Gold Medal from the Olympics. Now, Austin Desanto I would think would definitely go into the UFC. However any body remember Aaoron Pico who beat Zain Rutherford on numerous occasions and fights for Bellator. I don’t think Spencer wants to be an MMA fighter or better yet I haven’t heard that he wants to be in the UFC.

@mjg29x

3 жыл бұрын

@@qhimicoasesino2989 I really hope Desanto transitions to mma.

Probably the same situation with Ramos

@strykerlettington9699

4 жыл бұрын

No it’s completely different

@leor716

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah same as ramos

@Suave121

4 жыл бұрын

If anything he is smarter than Ramos

He wins an Olympic medal so plus for Penn State

Gilman is super paranoid and crazy according to his own words. in an interview with him he said he refused to turn his back to the cowboys because he feared they might intentionally take out his legs since they're the enemy. I believe he left because Spencer lee is his competitor, he didn't want to train with his competitor. I don't think it's any bad blood, just Gilman's paranoia

It's OBVIOUS he left because Lee was kicking his tail and it is just not an ideal set-up. He even said once that SL will "humble" you. Imagine how SL feels watching a dude he kicked in the room gaining an Olympic spot...got to be gut-wrenching I would imagine

Wow I clicked on this vid so fast

@guyharris889

4 жыл бұрын

Correction needed: Mark Perry not Branch

Well we know you want him in penn but he is going to Iwoa

I don’t care what anyone says. One of the big reasons he left is because of Lee.

@MrMagneticSponsoring

3 жыл бұрын

The ONLY reason in my opinion. He loved the Brands brothers. He loved Iowa. Spencer comes and conquers, and now he wants to leave? Come on. It's obvious...

Segue, Bo nickel is about to take over the mma world

Love Iowa and their program, but Iowa is hard face, head, nose in your face aggressive style, always attacking, really hard working going that extra mile, using their extra conditioning and hard work schedule as confidence to win tough matches. Russian wrestling is the opposite, one thing is they only train Olympic style wrestling, their conditioning typically isn't as good as the American's and they're the exact opposite style compared to someone like Desanto or Gilman who will be relentlessly attacking you and moving forward controlling the mat. A lot of the European wrestlers like a Chamizo or Tsabolov are a higher in their stance, not always attacking, but when they attack their dangerous, a little bit more throws and they don't scramble as much as the American's do, they rather just give up the two or push instead of looking to score. Their opposites. Obviously Russia has had a lot more success and dominance in on olympic scene in wrestling than America. However we don't which style is truly better, which is the whole reason why Americans always want to beat the Russians and Russia always wanting to beat America. All I know is Thomas Gilman's eyes were opened after seeing how the Russian and Europeans and Asians train in contrast to America

Gilman left because he knows PA wrestling is the best wrestling and that’s all there is to it.

Josiah's biases are in full display. Penn State all the way.

Spencer Lee ISN'T part of the reason he left?? BullSHIT!! Spencer IS Iowa wrestling right now, and that's the bottom line!! He knows Lee's going to get preference over him...HAS to know that!!!

"Hawkwash" I like that. #PAWrestling

@FancoWrestling

4 жыл бұрын

Haha glad I got someone to laugh!

If it was about the training; THEN HE WOULD HAVE GONE TO PENN STATE TO WRESTLE COLLEGIALITY. It was about money I guarantee it that or it was the situation of Thomas being jealous that at Iowa Spencer is going to be treated or given more and he didn’t want to be in his shadow. Screw new training partners cuz 1. You can bring guys into Iowa and 2. Having arguably, or probably legitimately the best 125 pounder in the country in Spencer Lee is as good as it gets. Cael Sanderson is the one piece that speaks for himself and what he offers and brings.

So Gilman and Snyder think Nittany Lion Wrestling Club is the best for Olympics ... hmm

@Rick-zl3zp

3 жыл бұрын

5 Olympic team members out of the NLWC.

Yooo why don't they show college wrestling on tv they show everything else but wrestling why I think they would show tittilywinks before they would show wrestling

It always comes down to a girl

You sound like gilman lol

Another story about how inferior Iowas wrestling program is to Penn State, go figure.

Mark Perry not brands

@FancoWrestling

4 жыл бұрын

Mark Perry was coaching Gilman, but Spencer was still training with Brands.

@jnickal21

4 жыл бұрын

You mean Mark Perry not Mark Branch

First :)

@att3578

4 жыл бұрын

First reply :)

you're a biased PA fan this is hogwash.