Why Genjutsu is USELESS now...
In this video I go over how Genjutsu sort of feels useless in Boruto now especially to how it was percieved in Naruto part one and then Naruto Shippuden.
Intro: 0:00
Our Introduction to Genjutsu: 2:08
Boruto's Lack of Genjutsu: 9:24
Ways Genjutsu could have been used: 10:41
Ninjutsu is Useless...: • Ninjutsu have lost ALL...
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Thank you for watching :)
@safehavendot
Жыл бұрын
No thank you
@udayhd
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@samdunn8596
Жыл бұрын
hey six I was wondering how madara was revived back in his prime when hiruzen was revived as an old man, isnt edo tensei used to bring back someone at their time of death
@aaveey
Жыл бұрын
My pleasure sir
@safehavendot
Жыл бұрын
@@samdunn8596 Kabuto preserved Madaras body to bring him back in his prime. Kabuto mentiones this as well when talking to Madara. Everyone else got revived at their point of death.
Do you think Sasuke lives in constant fear that maybe one day he will go to sleep and wake up in the Uchiha hideout and see Itachi still sitting on his throne?
@xavmanisdabestest
Жыл бұрын
That's amazing
@ultramusiq5507
Жыл бұрын
Lol, now that will be a hell of a twist. Lol
@kimanireid6111
Жыл бұрын
In that scenario if he's still aware of what lead to the Uchicha massacre then I doubt he'd care about not being able to kill Itachi
@daniellewandowski6945
Жыл бұрын
@@kimanireid6111 he isnt, all those events would be made by itachi so it wouldn't be a given they were true
@kimanireid6111
Жыл бұрын
@@daniellewandowski6945 fair point
Honestly kinda sad to see. The power system in Naruto was so cool and so integral to the series and it sucks a lot of it seems like it’s being done away with
@gameuniverse5973
Жыл бұрын
Genjustu was always on the decline i can count on my hand the amount of genjustu used in Shippuden not even counting the fact two out of the five uchihas in the show no longer used it in fights
@christiansmith1895
Жыл бұрын
Genjustu was on the decline as soon as he said that it could manipulate tailed beast. Before that is was at least passable that you could fight someone with genjustu. Not to mention they made the Uchiha Genjustu way to powerful. If you aren’t an uchiha Kureani proved you might as well just learn Ninjustu.
@bobjohnson1633
Жыл бұрын
They wrecked it immediately after Sasuke got EMS and Naruto got sage. They cranked everything to 11 and made all secondary characters completely irrelevant
@bobjohnson1633
Жыл бұрын
When obito was showed controlling 9 tails, he had a bunch of shit set up with a big ceremony with seals and shit.
@bourne8636
Жыл бұрын
Just saying that’s the whole plot of boruto…
Itachi made everyone fall in love with genjutsu and its sad to see they don't have as many mental gymnastics as they did in the main series.
@gameuniverse5973
Жыл бұрын
Itachi was the only dude who used genjustu in a fight regularly also dojustsu genjustu is just better than normal genjustu when was the last time a genjutsu not sage or dojustsu based was used
@meburritoloco7475
Жыл бұрын
Power creep. You can't see any visual prowess affecting the battlefield, there is no physical feedback, there's no eye-candy on a massive scale, unless you want to count the Infinite Tsukuyomi . Trees aren't being destroyed, land isn't being exploded, no one is shooting lasers. It is however a lot more interesting in 1v1's to see who can outwit each other. My favorite instance is still how Sasuke 'genjutsued' Danzo into thinking one of his 'arm-eyes'? was still open. My one complaint about Genjutsu is how it was mostly ocular. We really only got variations with Tayuya and Ma and Pa who used sound. It would've been interesting to see Genjutsu activate with other senses, but I get why Kishmoto used it the way he did. Good writing is hard. I'm not mad, just disappointed.
@reddboytv1332
Жыл бұрын
@@meburritoloco7475I mean you just proved why it was never used like that from the jump it’s always been boring lol I’ve always hated it and never seen the point of it…the only one that’s remotely cool is Itachis and that’s it. Y’all like to throw all of Naruto’s original flaws onto Boruto. Also notice how dude in the video kept mentioning uchihas? Literally nobody else really uses it atp if y’all want more uchiha villains just say that but I’m tired of them🙄
@jirrellj
Жыл бұрын
Itachi made genjustu pointless in actuality.
@ixnexus
Жыл бұрын
@@meburritoloco7475 Pretty sure Kishimoto isn't even the main one writing Boruto.
2:38 small correction (unless it is anime only, in which case my bad): Kakashi introduced us to genjutsu during the bell test when he used it on Sakura, not when he used it on Zabuza.
@footballstats9127
Жыл бұрын
It s in the manga too
@zuralani1
Жыл бұрын
@@footballstats9127 i figured it probably was, but figured I'd put that there just in case
@aliciogarcia1430
Жыл бұрын
Was expecting this scene when he said it 😅
I feel like the major issue with genjutsu is that one single clan was carrying it as a concept in Naruto. Now that the uchiha are dead, there’s just no one capable of using it anymore, I guess. Honestly, I’m surprised it’s never even mentioned in the fight between sasuke and itachi. Everyone talks about how itachi was sick or holding back, but no one mentions the fact that itachi’s back was also broken from carrying genjutsu in Naruto.
@jus_ice_4433
Жыл бұрын
There’s that one clan that actually specialized in genjutsu. They just weren’t shit compared to the uchiha; itachi flipped her own genjutsu on her
@IWriteTooMuchForBleachIGuess
Жыл бұрын
That last sentence was pretty funny. Props.
@smitefulaxe1344
Жыл бұрын
@@jus_ice_4433 Ah, the Kurama Clan? In that on filler arc.
@5stargrim
Жыл бұрын
@@jus_ice_4433 What the guy above me said, that was filler, and sadly if the first thing you think when you hear them is “that one clan” it probably wasn’t doing much for genjutsu either way
@jr1648
Жыл бұрын
@@5stargrim haha its the chinoike clan and their dojutsu is the ketsuryugan XD
Genjutsu was monopolized by the Uchihas, if you wasn't an Uchiha then your genjutsu just wasn't up to par. The Hyuga clan had taijutsu but they never monopolized it they were just better than most clans at taijutsu. But when it comes to the Uchiha if you're not an Uchiha yourself then you're not touching an Uchiha with genjutsu. Which is why we never saw much genjutsu from non Uchiha ninjas.
@jackgonahieu4999
Жыл бұрын
Then the novels introduced the weird clan that controlled iron who were stated to be better at genjutsu.
The thing about genjutsu is that it's really hard to write into a fight compared to cool taijutsu moves or shooting fireballs. If it works it's insanely overpowered and if it doesn't nothing happens. There's a few awesome moments like in the Sasuke/Danzo fight where it's used as misdirection but the whole fight had to be written to lead up to that moment...
@shathaan1763
Жыл бұрын
Tell that to every itachi fight
@gabrielhoelzle8476
Жыл бұрын
@@shathaan1763 you mean the ones where he instawins because someone looked at his eyes or fingers?
@shathaan1763
Жыл бұрын
@@gabrielhoelzle8476 yes, pretty easy to write imo
@gabrielhoelzle8476
Жыл бұрын
@@shathaan1763 if your idea of a good fight is one of the fighters not having any agency I suppose it's pretty easy
@gameuniverse5973
Жыл бұрын
@@shathaan1763 that just boring as heck Sasuke only successful genjustu in a fight was against Deidara and Danzo and Obito with Madara dint even use genjustu in fights unless you count Madara genjustu on the raikage which he just did it for fun
Genjutsu was introduced like it had wide-ranging applications, but it seems like most genjutsu are OP. My favorite genjutsu was Sasuke fooling Danzo with the izanagi eyes because it was simple and effective. Variety with genjutsu is the key. Not everything needs to be paralysis or mind control. Take Sarada versus Boro for instance, she could have used genjutsu on Boro to make him think he shifted his core, then Boruto could have blown off the top of his body and killed him. Perfectly simple, but super effective.
@quentinjones6877
Жыл бұрын
Right
@FriendlyDarkwraith
Жыл бұрын
Or she could have pretended to be affected by the virus to get in close and land a hit, then let Boruto and Kawaki deliver the "finishing" blow, which is what they did. And let's be honest, people would clown on Boro 10x harder than they already do if a measly 2-tomoe (3 in the manga, but whatever) Sharingan managed to put a Kara Inner in genjutsu.
@christiansmith1895
Жыл бұрын
Than the People who Like Naruto but not Boruto would have just called it a copycat of Sasuke or Itachi.
@Black_Guy
Жыл бұрын
@@christiansmith1895 She used chidori. I can't see anything being more copycat than that.
@christiansmith1895
Жыл бұрын
@@Black_Guy I just hate when anime’s try to take some inspiration from others and people call them copycats. Like Boruto tried to make Boruto a troubled kid with a parent that isn’t home but he lives in a sing parent household with his little sister. But people say he is just a fake Sasuke.
I just hate how they ignore auditory genjutsu entirely as well. Auditory genjutsu bypass sharingan/rinnegan genjutsu resistance to some extent
Realistically I think it’s just because Ikemoto can’t really draw illusions or doesn’t have the confidence that they’ll be on par with what Kishimoto did art wise since in the anime Sarada lowkey spams Genjutsu
@homomagii
Жыл бұрын
That’s a good point!!!
@bobjohnson1633
Жыл бұрын
He was writing it, wasn't he? And he's a shit writer with shit ideas.
@jus_ice_4433
Жыл бұрын
I feel like it’s more of a narrative choice. The anime shows more of team 7 facing off against every day ninja while the manga focuses much more heavily on them fighting an opponent that’s totally impervious to the ability
@shuyuka5651
Жыл бұрын
@@jus_ice_4433 I don’t think that makes any sense. People tend to throw around the word narrative randomly and think it makes more sense when “narratively” speaking the story is about Shinobi remaining Shinobi in the face of literal gods. If anything the people who literally are meant to fight deceptively should be leaning on Genjutsu now more than ever if narrative is to be considered. Six even pointed out moments where characters using Genjutsu would be useful and narratively sound. They’ve only fought 2 Otsutsuki (neither actually are stated to be immune to Genjutsu it’s just headcanon from fans) in the 78 chapters out currently. Even then there’s nothing actually stopping Genjutsu from being a factor against the likes of Code, Kawaki or even Daemon. I think Ikemoto’s lack of confidence in those more vague scenes is a bit more realistic from a manga creation side of things. You can’t write things you can’t draw/lack confidence drawing
@unclephillymya
Жыл бұрын
Nah. If he can draw Momoshiki vs Naruto & Sasuke, he can draw illusions I think/hope that Genjutsu will make a comeback
Also isn't Genjutsu proficiency suppose to be in an Uchiha's blood like fire style? Sarada using it on Boro would've made perfect sense.
@SuperPianogirl123
Жыл бұрын
She tried to in the anime I believe
@davidspearim5552
Жыл бұрын
@SuperPianogirl123 But boros is supposed to be in insanity powerful And hes a cyborg that makes his half machine so I don't think it would work
@brolo4784
Жыл бұрын
That’s makes me think of a good question, are all uchiha disposed to having yin or yang chakra whatever one is for genjutsu
W Six, I completely agree, especially coming off a series that used Genjutsu so well and thoroughly as well.
@jirrellj
Жыл бұрын
It was used more often because uchiha was extremely prevalent in shippuden. In boruto there is only 2 uchiha. Genjustu was never used that much outside of sharingan users
@SaberEBW
Жыл бұрын
@@jirrellj Doesnt mean it cant be or the creators cant come up with interesting ways to use it. Its pure laziness and Boruto as a whole suffers for it. Half the amount of Uchiha and no Genjutsu makes no smense.
Genjutu should’ve been used like debuffs in RPGs. And make them last until the affected figures out how it’s being transmitted (sight, smell, etc) and covering it up or overcoming it (sarutobi using smell to deal with his loss of sight).
@brolo4784
Жыл бұрын
Dude yes , I’d even take it a step further and say they should’ve introduced a buff style genjutsu to empower one’s Allies. Like her bro go berserk
This is the problem I find with most magic systems in media. As threats grow in power, so does the scale of abilities. But then you reach a point, like in Naruto, where it gets so damn ludicrous, you gotta find a way to tone it down which leads to retcons and complete reworks of what used to be foundational to series. As soon as Naruto went the DBZ route of making Otsusuki clan some damn aliens, I lost interest. The series hasn't been about ninja since then imo. Naruto went from being a nobody to learning his DNA is LITERALLY PART ALIEN and it's dumb to me. Hyuga, Uchiha, Senju, and by extension, the Uzumaki are all part alien and that killed the "shinobi" vibe for me.
Genjutsu is hard to write into a fight properly. Especially since nowadays a lot of people just care about big explosions and cool colors during a fight. While there’s nothing wrong with liking that, it’s just that it makes it so genjutsu doesn’t fit into that aesthetic. One of my favorite genjutsu scenes was Sasuke vs Itachi, the mind trickery was so cool but it doesn’t fit in with all the big fight scenes we’ve seen in Boruto.
@armedweiss5531
Жыл бұрын
Part of the problem is that so much Genjutsu in the series, especially in Shippuden, tends to be an instant win button and it's insanely lame if they end up working. Like Ma and Pa's frog song or anything Itachi ever does. It's hard to write a fight with Genjutsu in mind when so many genjutsus introduced in the series are just "I win" buttons
@JKMlive
Жыл бұрын
A really good example is how Sasuke used it against Danzo's izanagi/izanami (can't remember which)
I wish genjutsu wasn’t so underrated
@davidspearim5552
Жыл бұрын
But it's not so underrated it is the most overrated ability in naruto You know how easy they could win a fight By using that ability
So much crazy things you can do with Genjutsu it's sad we don't see it more
@appleboss9742
Жыл бұрын
How would you want to see it used
@SupaChinido
Жыл бұрын
@@appleboss9742 put anyone including ostsutsuki in genjutsu like how all tail beasts got bodied in one second
I appreciate how your review is simple and stayed on point. Good work, keep it up ❤
Yep. Genjutsu is absolutly non existing anymore. It's sad to see the three pillars of Naruto combat being reduced to taijutsu and crazy powers that can be used like Quirks from My Hero Academia.
@cheeseburgerfreddy6350
Жыл бұрын
Crazy power's and taijutsu were always a thing though even in Shippuden, like hidan and kakazu or deidara and orochimaru. All of them had strange power's, and taijutsu is good because towards the end of Shippuden in turned into DBZ and the power and abilities being displayed got a little whacky.
@gameuniverse5973
Жыл бұрын
@@cheeseburgerfreddy6350you forgot Ms abilities
@aran.m977
Жыл бұрын
@@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 yea that's true and nothing bad since there was still a balance between all of them during the most part of the series but in Boruto it's just reduced to these two things.
@cheeseburgerfreddy6350
Жыл бұрын
@@gameuniverse5973 I mean there's not that many people in Boruto with the MS only Sasuke and shin have an MS, while in Shippuden there were plenty of Uchiha with the MS who were still alive.
@cheeseburgerfreddy6350
Жыл бұрын
@@chy.0190 Not all the enemies only some, Eida and daemon cannot absorb chakra and neither can code, only Boruto and kawaki can and even then there karma seals can only absorb pure chakra not natural elements so there's already a weakness for the absorption.
I love your content, Six!
The problem with genjutsu is that the only people we see use it with regularity are Uchiha or have a sharingan. Because of that, I never cared for it. It's just more Uchiha favoritism.
@FriendlyDarkwraith
Жыл бұрын
Remember Kurenai? Exactly.
@Black_Guy
Жыл бұрын
@@FriendlyDarkwraith I said with regularity. Kurenai showed up once for a fight. Lol Sadly, she was the only genjutsu specialist in Konoha. Sakura could have been a genjutsu specialist, instead she mainly used taijutsu.
@gameuniverse5973
Жыл бұрын
@@FriendlyDarkwraith and she got dogged on by itachi who has a Sharigan which genjustu only good with dojustsu you just prove his point
@gameuniverse5973
Жыл бұрын
@@Black_Guy genjustu is useless unless your a sound based which only three chars have one of them stole it from said user and dojustsu even then two of the five guys in the story who have sharigans don't even use it in fights Madara only did it for s h i t s and giggles on the raikage and Obito last genjustu was on yagura
@Black_Guy
Жыл бұрын
@@gameuniverse5973 Genjutsu could have been written better. It could have been more effective. Kishimoto just never decided to use it for some reason. He just resorted to it when someone had a doujutsu for convenience.
7:15 I’d even take this point as far as 3 Genjutsu when you consider the use of Koto to break Itachi himself out of Kabuto’s control in the first place. The other 2 never happen without it
Spitting facts as always my brother
(I haven't watched the full vid yet so idk if you said this) I think kishimoto could easily add some insane shinjutsu that works like a genjutsu and then it would make a lot of sense for that shinjutsu to be used on extreme high tiers in the verse. It would add that interesting element of "genjutsu" back to some of the fights and it would make sense for the Boruto power system and scaling
@gabrielhoelzle8476
Жыл бұрын
If you think about it Eida's ability is a lot like genjutsu
@Getsugum
Жыл бұрын
@@gabrielhoelzle8476 Yeah I thought about that as well. We're not even sure what her love charm ability actually is though because Momoshiki said it's not a shinjutsu
pog new video, also a haku video would be very cool
In the anime the 8th inner Ouga who was created to be Amado's research assistant used extremely advanced genjutsu.
I don't mind God ki in dragon ball but don't see the point in learning it if half the cast can just catch up to the God forms of goku and vegeta with just regular ki like it just seems like an unnecessary strain on their body and stamina just to fight people who can get that strong the normal way
@jus_ice_4433
Жыл бұрын
the problem is series like these are never planned out. not even toriyama knew gohan beast was going to exist when he made Ultra instinct and Kishimoto didn't know he'd be making Ninjas in space eventually
@armedweiss5531
Жыл бұрын
While other characters being able to catch up to Goku and Vegeta doesn't make sense and is bad writing, leaving everyone else in the dust and unable to do anything is also bad writing by effectively deleting the supporting cast from the series. Once they introduced that new tier of power in God Goku it was a pick your poison situation, cause either way it was bad writing. At the very least by giving everyone a sudden power increase for the ToP it makes it feasible for the other supporting cast members to actually do things.
@djantouahmed7319
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention that the god ki doesn't seem different from normal ki.
They could have made an ultimate surreal genre to Naruto using genjutsu and the interaction kurama has with him to snap out of the illusions while fighting, it is literally limitless what you could make people go through to mentally fatigue them, drive them insane, coerce them to think of enemies as allies, from images of hell to attacking their greatest fears. It could have shown how morally gray genjutsu was to use and even if only villains used it i would have been for it
Becoming my fav naruto creator fr
Next: Downfall of Senjustu
@FriendlyDarkwraith
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, probably.
I agree with all of your points, I just wanna elaborate and say that genjutsu has never been the end all be all to every fight. Though it did play a part in many fights, characters used it to distract or confuse opponents before taking them down. It was only really used to put down opponents after they were beaten ... even izanami had some fighting requirements.
Characters don't even at least try to use Genjutsu, like it doesn't even always have to be successful in achieving the desired outcome in a battle and it wouldn't be so disappointing since the main characters are still basically kids, they haven't achieved their prime yet so it would show that they have still room to grow, but the more experienced characters also don't attempt Genjutsu at any time at all Edit: I'm mainly talking about Boruto series
@PrimalIncentive
Жыл бұрын
No one tried against Kaguya
@gameuniverse5973
Жыл бұрын
Obito and Madara dint bother using genjustu even tho there feats imply they easily can
Genjustu makes naruto naruto so a creative concept they rlly should make away of the genjustu work arounds in boruto
perfect video for me to watch while im tabbed out doing other work
I think the use of subtle Genjutsu in particular is something we should be seen more of. Like, most of Sasuke's fights in Shippuden are sick, and a big part of that is him using Genjutsu to mislead instead of just using it to auto-win.
@conradlorgar5508
Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure he only did that with danzo almost any other time it was an instant win or completely nulled like with bee
@researchinbreeder
Жыл бұрын
@@conradlorgar5508 he also used Genjutsu multiple times in the Deidara fight
@brolo4784
Жыл бұрын
Would’ve been amazing to see someone start a fire and lead their opponent into the fire without noticing until it was too late via genjutsu
@islemsissou7707
9 ай бұрын
@@researchinbreeder"multiples times" how many ? The only one i remmeber is when he attacked him with chidori in curse mark 2
Damn. Genjutsu really could just be scaled up. I never thought about that somehow I guess because it felt weird for Genjutsu to go like Infinite Tsukuyomi tier or past for certain characters or even close to that. The Otsu's maybe not encountering it also could be interesting. ~ I do like how the anime does make Sarada use them GEnjutsu's. ~~ Honestly kinda shocking I forgot how much Genjutsu was used and what it did in Part 2 but I feel it still kinda fell off a bit there mainly because it didn't really do too much in the parts and Kurenai kinda didn't get to do anything. The series def could have benefitted from being longer.
Personally tried a few episodes of the anime and only a couple chapters of the manga for Boruto so I don't know a lot about the series. But, I liked the fact that genjutsu wasn't extremely common in the main series. It made it seem like it was something harder to learn, and use effectively in combat. Which then made it all the more awesome when Itachi would show up and basically only use genjutsu and win.
@yvesradiancemendoza5524
Жыл бұрын
By the latter half of shippuden he didnt use it as much The dragon ball powrr creep made it hard to right genjutsu to still be useful
Ninja in the Boruto era have been implied on several instances to be able to resist genjutsu. A good example was the Houki Vs Inojin fight in the chunin exam.
You should make a video covering how terrible 90% of ninjutsu was through out the series as well. I think one of the many faults of Naruto as a series is that many jutsu didn't end up being threatening at all. Save for hacks abilities like rinnegan, various MS abilities, flying raijin, wood release etc. It would have been cool to see the more ordinary jutsu be more threatening then it was. And I think it turned out this way because Naruto characters started getting a little too powerful. So I think they could have fixed this by straight up nerfing Naruto characters, and not necessarily just writing jutsu to be more powerful. Personally, I think the highest level should have just been Kage level. Of course not all kage level characters would be equal, but roughly in the same tier. I think this would have made for a more grounded experience. Instead of in order to be considered powerful in Boruto, you need to be God-like.
I think genjustu would be very interesting if we see it in other animes and games 🙂
I really do think Genjutsu would work well on Kawaki. Especially the subtle kinda (like Sasuke making Danzo believe he had more Sharingan left than he actual did). Kawaki just isn't experienced enough in deception, let alone Genjutsu. He wouldn't even recognize what was going on to fight against it.
Kishimoto in nutshel: Now I have Shinjutsu. Genjutsu? I don't want to play with you anymore 😡
@PrimalIncentive
Жыл бұрын
We barely even know much about shinjutsu tho
@gameuniverse5973
Жыл бұрын
@@PrimalIncentiveshinjutsu seems to be Jutsu which uses no hand signs so maybe like Kaguya dimension teleporting
@chalbramwell5353
Жыл бұрын
@@gameuniverse5973 so minato has shinjutsu
@josephrogers3666
Жыл бұрын
@@chalbramwell5353that is a ninjutsu and funjutsu mix
@chalbramwell5353
Жыл бұрын
@@josephrogers3666 Funjutsu?
One of the coolest applications of Genjustu in Boruto would've been in the fight against Jigen. I've always thought we'd get to see more of Jigen outside of Isshiki's control, since his body cracked and he started crying. But we got nothing. What if, in the fight against Jigen, Sasuke puts Jigen (the body) under a Genjustu, which supresses Isshiki's control for a moment and we get an insight into Jigen (the character's) actual personality? He could either drop his staff and ask Sasuke to kill him. Or he could be suffering from extreme stockholm syndrome and get pissed off they put away his god. This wouldn't really change the fight, but it would be a really cool moment.
@homomagii
Жыл бұрын
Nah facts
@trey1215
Жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t have worked at all. Y’all have these expectations but don’t work lol
@jirrellj
Жыл бұрын
Nah
@highlightermarca-texto3281
Жыл бұрын
@@trey1215 How do you know it wouldn't work? Is there any precedence for it? They've literally only used Genjutsu once in all of Boruto.
@Codyslx
Жыл бұрын
@@highlightermarca-texto3281 Isshiki is a god damn outsutsuki who is capable of absorbing chakra. He controls jigen from inside his head rather than through the karma, so it wouldn't have worked.
Itachi and the Uchihas just invalidated all genjutsu. Same way how Blaze release invalidated fire jutsus
@gameuniverse5973
Жыл бұрын
Nah kashin Koji actually made fire attacks actually mean something after so long
@Celediev
Жыл бұрын
could've made sakura so talented at genjutsu she's able to even trap Uchihas within hers ... would have solved 3 problems at once: how to make sakura actually keep up with Naruto and Sasuke, how to make genjutsu matter and how to defeat juubidara.
Genjutsu is just so open and without limits that it makes it hard to actually use it in the story. Theoretically any high level fights can use genjutsu to just fuck with the opponents: which will get confusing when actually seeing it or watching it. Especially when there's supposed like 4000+ genjutsu, that Hiruzen knows ALONE. It could also be used very lazily to escape situations like how substitution jutsu is practically teleportation jutsu at a small distance and used just to subvert a mistake most of the time.
As a general rule of thumb I do agree with you if you get rid of an established power system or way of doing things in order to introduce something new it is usually bad. But then again when I think of jojo a lot of people like hamon (myself included). I wasnt a big fan of it in part 1 but in part 2 I really enjoyed how creative they got with it. However in part 3 they entirely got rid of hamon for something else which is stands which was a bizarre decision. I hated stands initially, but the concept was very cool to me and later on when better stands came out I enjoyed it. However I've always said in the back of my head I wish Hamon and stands tied together hand in hand. I think it would've been better imo.
Dat yotsuba group theme, love it
Let’s go!
7:49 There's some emotion there.
the danzo sauske fight is a prime example of what you discuss here its funny haha, its even stated sauskes genjustu isnt the greatest but he crafty with it so he wins battles with it. nice explanation of it to those thinking otherwise.
When the Swag collabs dropping again👀
Genjutsu should be used in most fights, in lots of small ways. They could use it to have the enemy land a finishing blown on them, and then they fade out of existence and its revealed it was a set up for a big attack, illusions have so much freedom but they just forgot about them.
Isnt the ost running in the backfround of deathnote? Can someone tell me the name of this ost plzz
Genjutsu became like this the moment perfect jinchurikii, uchiha and dojutsus became the focal point of the series in naruto
As some have mentioned, the "age of things like ninjutsu/shinobi is over, like genjutsu" the main reason is, it involves the writer *not being lazy* Intelligent writing has been lacking in Boruto from the start
The og naruto powers were interesting, but poorly handled I believe. Like had Kishi focused on the different powers and how they work together and on strategy then I doubt we’d have as many impactful moments with character development because their personalities would be tied into how they fight more than their struggles. Personally I love naruto because of moments like Gaaras inflection upon his death, but the fights are super cool still. Naruto is a diverse series that handles emotion and symbolism well. It’s power scaling and consistency is solid, but not great- it isn’t a perfect series, but has a lot of draw for a lot of different interest. Sadly people seem to hate on the things they don’t like that aren’t done well, but all series have their weaknesses. Awesome analysis and super fun listening to you Six, just wanted to share my thoughts!
2:23 ain’t no way Six put this Aizen image in the video 😂😂
So I have a question. Can Genjutsu (including Infinite Tsukuyomi) affect blind people? I'm asking this because Kaname Tosen, a character from Bleach is blind and he's supposedly immune to Kyoka Suigetsu so I wonder if the same applies in Naruto regarding blindness can save you from Genjutsu, visual Genjutsu at least. And I'm talking about normal visual Genjutsu, so no Izanagi or Izanami.
@Kidkinsey
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1. Yes if you are blind then visual genjutsu wont work 2. Ks isn’t a super buffed koto they are barely similar. Koto gives you a command and rewrites your mind to the point where you believe your actions are coming from your heart. KS controls your 5 senses to create illusions
@Legalize_Nuclear_Bombs_
Жыл бұрын
Wonder if this is the reason we never had any blind characters in the series lol
@cypherbrittainnethegodofsl4988
Жыл бұрын
@@Kidkinsey Yeah you're kinda correct about KS
@basedcommentor
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It's stated everything the Infinite Tsukuyomi touches is put under genjutstu Itachi novels confirmed Mangekyo level genjutstu works by the user injecting their chakra into you, IT is the highest tier of MS genjutstu using the Rinne Sharingan. All evidence suggests the blind can fall under MS+ level genjutstu
@cypherbrittainnethegodofsl4988
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@@basedcommentor But why didn't Itachi used Tsukuyomi on Kabuto when his eyes are still closed and only used it after he opened his eyes?
If Tsusnade is a master of Chakra control then she should be good at genjutsu, which she need to get critical hits with her fists or stall for regeneration. Doesn't Eida have a passive genjutsu on at all times?
@quentinjones6877
Жыл бұрын
Sakura should've had genjutsu to differentiate herself from Tsunade
The problem with genjutsu is that it's just illusions. I think in terms of writing, it's just a no-win situation as it's too easy to be used as a crutch for twists or padding a fight, or could easily become too broken in universe, I think kishimoto made the right call abandoning it and using it sparingly
@gavinma4831
Жыл бұрын
wasnt sasuke immune to infinite tsukuyomi due to his rinnegan? Imagine how resistant a guy with 2 rinnegan and one on his forehead would be. But yeah if they wanted to waste a pannel to silence haters they shouldve
Kakashi vs Zabuza is still to this day probably one of my favorite fights on the whole series
Genjutsu would’ve been a good ONE time plot device to have a whole fight happen with heavy stakes, real loss, a good victory and have it all swept away under the rug just have whole new fight with new stakes
The issue with genjutsu is that it’s way too vague how to resist it.
@bobjohnson1633
Жыл бұрын
Recognize that you are in genjutsu and just alter the flow of chakra a tiny bit. That breaks you out. Itachi's personal skill made it difficult for orochimaru to break out without focusing for a few seconds, but it was significant because NOBODY could cast genjutsu that strong. Itachi flipped kurenai's genjutsu on her by noticing it, altering his chakra and casting the same genjutsu on her at a higher level that requires more concentration to break. Genjutsu has strength that makes it harder to break, and subtle genjutsu make it so you never even try, such as in Sasuke's fight against danzo. Danzo would have won if he noticed he was in a genjutsu.
Vaguely related, but I wonder what a natural predator species to the Otsutsuki would look like. Amado said something about them being parasites, so what beats a parasite? A bit fan fictiony I know, but still a thought I’ve had.
@gameuniverse5973
Жыл бұрын
Another parasite
Sage mode Kabuto vs Tobirama a battle of jutsus and smarts
Yeah I’ll admit it’s weird that genjutsu isn’t even thought of being used by sasuke in his fights. Like u said I’m not asking him to Genjutsu gg isshiki or momoshiki but a small scale illusion would have been valid Even the applications that aren’t illusion based but that ones that can erase memories/view memories could have been used by Sarada or sasuke when it comes to interrogating Amado
@gameuniverse5973
Жыл бұрын
If Sasuke dint try it against Kaguya why would he try it against Momoshiki or Isshiki
@Kidkinsey
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@game universe yea that was weird too. Once they became God tiers they stopped using genjutsu in fights
@jirrellj
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@@Kidkinsey it’s hard to write in the story. Most times genjustu is used it’s a insta win victory
@christiansmith1895
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@@jirrellj after Izangi and Izanami. I think the authors got afraid to use Genjustu to much Kishimoto kinds of uses as a cope out sometimes. Couldn’t kill Kabuto Genjustu Need Itachi to be good during war Genjustu How did Madara live Genjustu It’s why some Naruto fans dislike the Sharingan it became to powerful and Kishimoto used it to fill plot holes.
@Kidkinsey
Жыл бұрын
@@jirrellj just have the Otsutsuki have resistance but not downright immune to it. Have an illusion battle like sasuke vs itachi or Kakashi vs obito
So genjustu general thing is to affect the 5 senses so would somone with a 6th sense of more have a advantage to break it. Like in naruto isn’t chakra tired to the 5 senses so u can’t really consider senses chakra a 6th sense thing?
The strength in Genjutsu isn't the big things, it's the little things, like the Danzo part you described. Like what itachi did to the anbu pursuing him in the anime and they killed each other. Of course it's practically worthless to extremely high tier like Otsutski or (some members of Kara) but for general use it's a great tool and I suspect that part of showing off the subtle benefits of these things will be creating more 'Danzo' scenarios where it changes the outcome of the fight through deception. Genjutsu might seem a bit simple now but think about it, even simple attacks can change the course of a fight - after all a simple shadow clone defeated isshiki.
I wonder if there is a shinjutsu specifically for casting very strong genjutsu like infinite tsukiyomi 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Pretty sure shinjutsu can have genjutsu like techniques. I know its the purest form of ninjutsu but you can argue its the purest form of jutsu as a whole encompassing all jutsu considering how its described
It’s like new bosses in Dokkan being immune to everything
The thing about genjutsu is that it is best used in a way that people don't know they are under genjutsu. Yet, most of the genjutsu we see is super blatant to the victim that they are under genjutsu.
Bruh genjutsu was literally my favorite naruto "mechanic" like damn it's so sick thinking about how to use it and use it well. Now it barely even exists cause everyone got sharinnegans or whatever lmao
Ill be honest I gave up on taking genjutsu seriously the moment Danzo first used Izanagi. It went from illusions and creative deception to rewriting reality and once that bar is met its pretty hard to go back to basics. Izanami was pretty dope though ngl
@gameuniverse5973
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Izanagi was fair in my option you sacrifice a eye for a life
@nathantryon1146
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@@gameuniverse5973 I agree, however I do think it was unwise to have the audiences first encounter with it be a dude who bypasses the extreme cost by having a bunch of eyes which in my opinion somewhat negates the feeling of how heavy a price you pay.
@thatdoppioguy1825
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@@nathantryon1146 seeing Obito or another Uchiha use it first would’ve been more impactful to see and would’ve layed the ground work for the power alot better
The thing that makes me sad is just how genjutsu just isn't as impactful if not casted from a Sharingan. Like we have the Frog Song but like all the examples you listed of casting genjutsu mid-combat, those are all Uchiha I do absolutely agree though, that people ignore the fact that it can be used for misdirection, like Obito's (failed) attempt to make Kakashi think he killed him, or Sasuke in his fight against Deidera and Danzo
Not sure if it was in the Manga, but in the Boruto anime Naruto used genjutsu on one of those little shin clones if I'm not mistaken.
If you think about it the otsutsuki are probably familiar with Genjutsu already as they have to cast the infinite tsukuyomi in order to absorb the chakra of a planet. That was what Boro was preaching about. It's why sasuke and naruto fought jigen and isshiki. If Isshiki had succeded, he probably would have used the infinite tsukuyomi. So yeah, genjutsu still plays a critical part that can end the world itself if used. Sure, the use of genjutsu has gone down a lot, but what is the point of using the jutsu on the enemies like otsutsuki that probably have counters against it. The Otsutsuki are originators of chakra so to them countering genjutsu is probably easy. I agree that it's usage has declined, but it still plays a pivotal role even in boruto. And to be honest, as much as some genjutsu fight were cool in naruto, illusion battle is just boring as hell.
I guess the next video will be “The Over-Saturation of Taijutsu”
Can you create a video of what if edo itachi joins the war instead of dealing kabuto
For sarada vs boro she could pull a Sasuke and make him think he moved it like Sasuke made danzo think he had one more eye than he had
They have the perfect opportunity to reintroduce genjustsu with the pure eye in order battle enemies like Daemon, Eida, and non-shinobis like Kawaki, Otsutsuki, etc.
Just leaving this here since I want more discussion on the topic, what's everyone's take on whether or not Genjutsu would work on Bleach characters? The main two arguments in Bleach's favor are 1. most Naruto characters wouldn't be able to see them (this is especially damning in the case of ocular genjutsu), and 2. Bleach characters (minus the humans) are souls, and Genjutsu hasn't been shown to work against souls. There's more, but I'm just wondering what everyone thinks.
I think the big problem is that if genjutsu did work it would make these unimaginable threats the androids and otosutski seem beatable which the series can't do yet
@victorn2555
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i wouldn't say beatable, more like there's a chance
Honestly genjustu always been on decline since Shippuden Sasuke only used it after ems against the tailed beasts,Madara only did it too raikage for fun,and Obito who has some of the best genjustu feats does not uses it after yagura so if the Uchiha who are known for it genjustu are barely using them it not a surprised genjustu is just never shown
@chalbramwell5353
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"Decline in shippuden" they've used genjutsu the most in shippuden
I kinda wonder if momoshiki or any of the otsutski learned how genjutsu works that they would just use it to completely control anyone that has chakra …
Genjutsu should be sneaky, subtle. Sasuke's way with Danzo is the best demonstration. Inducing your opponent a minimum error that costs their life later on the fight. But they pushed it too far, paralysis and mind control in a blink of an eye are hard concepts to surpass in terms of power balance. Who can win against it? The easy way out was giving the relevant characters and villains straight out immunity against it, just like they can absorb all ninjutsu. Now, 2/3 of the established power system is irrelevant. Talk about good writing...
0:58 Based for this take
Hear me out, what if they introduce shinjutsu illusions, which would be way better than genjutsu
@fearz792
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How would that work though?
Question that future flashback for Boruto could be the fight after code came to the leaf
I think one issue with Genjutsu is that they made the Sharingan too op against it originally it was stated that one way to get out of a Genjutsu was by seeing the imperfections and weaknesses in the Illusion and that the Sharingan made this could notice these more easily than normal eyes, however Kishimoto made it in the series that everyone except Itachi who used Genjutsu was useless against the Sharingan. In fact in the original Naruto run when Kurenei goes up against Itachi the reason she loses so badly is not just because of the Sharingan but also because of Itachi's skill at Genjutsu. I think it's in the datebooks but there was a female Senju during Hashirama's time who was stated to effectively use Genjutsu against the Uchiha due to her high skill at it. So I think Genjustsu became more or less useless due to Kishimoto making the Sharingan too OP against it.
@allworksnew
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I guess sound genjutsu is the best kind.
@islemsissou7707
9 ай бұрын
I mean there is another way to break genjutsu and that by hurting yourself just a little bit (like what kurenai did or what shikamari did against tayuya)
What if Sasuke kept his cm when he fought bee and then the five Kage could he have won in those instances or what if Sasuke actually killed Naruto back in part one and got Ms would he beat sick itachi in a fair fight
i find it stange that naruto is my favorite series ever and now matter how many times i try to watch boruto it always discust me to the point of me having to stop
Even in og Naruto, Ninjutsu was already overflowing compared to Genjutsu and Taijustsu. Really wish we got more quick, tactical battles instead of big and flashy.
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I wouldn’t go with the writing of the otusuki haven’t encountered many genjutsu because kaguya was not special in her clan there is nothing to indicate she was so it would have better to say kaguya’s genjutsu is just very impressive to the clan that’s really but it would’ve been cool if sasuke casted genjutsu against say kinshiki and he said something like “his mind is far superior to even the strongest Shinobi” and have with just a little bit of effort kinishiki break it. So against otusuki they can cast SUPER strong ones but they can throw off their perception kinda like how Aizen did to Yhwach
War arc guy(only seven gate)and war arc Kakashi vs Edo Nagato and Itachi if kabuto send those two instead of the seven ninja swordsmen
1:10 like how the new Star Wars had no cool lightsaber fights
14:49 why didn't Sasuke uses genjutsu on Kawaki in this panel?
*Genjutsu sharingan, Sasuke having the cloud ninja tell him stuff and Itachi have Kabuto tell him stuff is acquired after gaining the Mangekyo sharingan. So doubt Sarada could do it yet.* 😊