Why F1 Wheel Nuts Cost £50'000

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We know F1 is expensive - but did you know a simple wheel nut costs nearly £1000?
And that one F1 team can spend upwards of £50 thousand pounds a weekend on WHEEL NUTS?
Let me explain
Now, F1 wheel nuts haven’t always been that expensive, there has been a long history of steady development to get them where they are now. And actually, in the early days of F1, they used to hammer the wheel nuts on!
Yep, this was because impact guns weren’t a thing. And the other option was using several studs - which take a long time to change.
So F1 cars used these single centrelock nuts - with these wings on the side. Some had 2 and some had three - and the pit crews would carry a mallet to the pitlane to hammer off the nut, change the wheel and hammer on a new one.
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  • @jacobbarton6689
    @jacobbarton668911 ай бұрын

    “after all the effort, it was banned next season” sums up f1 so well

  • @andrewahern3730

    @andrewahern3730

    11 ай бұрын

    “Peak innovation” yeah, that’s why endurance racing teams are literally “prototyping” engine tech. F1 is a little confusing when you start thinking about what the intent of certain rules are

  • @MCOGroupNews

    @MCOGroupNews

    11 ай бұрын

    I really wish they'd stop doing that tbh. Force teams to adapt, stop catering to the whiners!

  • @procatprocat9647

    @procatprocat9647

    11 ай бұрын

    Deepen your level of understanding to begin to comprehend the reasons why such features are banned.

  • @andrewahern3730

    @andrewahern3730

    11 ай бұрын

    @@procatprocat9647 why is multi-spray direct injection banned?

  • @Dr.Mcstaby

    @Dr.Mcstaby

    11 ай бұрын

    just like the rotary engine and the turban engine race cars of the past as soon as they won a race they got banned not because they where wasteful on fuel or dangerous that was just an excuse to tell the public, But because they worked better and lasted longer than the bigger companies that funded the events and angered them. You can those companies for not allowing us to have cars that run on other kinds of engines, sadly the only recent fuel powered engine in History to be mass produced and sold to the public was the wanker rotary and it is the ONLY none reciprocating piston engine to win at le mans.

  • @adamvargo7830
    @adamvargo783011 ай бұрын

    6:02 ah yes, the mythical 8 sided hex nut

  • @Lessenjr

    @Lessenjr

    11 ай бұрын

    Scrolling with no other purpose than to find this comment. 😂

  • @cakilas8966

    @cakilas8966

    11 ай бұрын

    I was confused, skimming around looking for an 8 sided hex nut equivalent, then I finally heard it. Missed that the first time i watched the video.

  • @leebatt7964

    @leebatt7964

    11 ай бұрын

    Yes, the octonut is rare but the uninut is, fortunately, even less common but was used to great success by lance armstrong.

  • @simonwadd4038

    @simonwadd4038

    8 ай бұрын

    for some reason I always think 8 for hex at first. Something to do with the X maybe. It cost me points on university challenge when i thought hexapods must mean spiders :(

  • @johnsmith-sp6yl

    @johnsmith-sp6yl

    Ай бұрын

    youtubers make mistakes like these on purpose to drive up engagement.

  • @xtianeskay5166
    @xtianeskay516611 ай бұрын

    Don't you think the video should have the title "why F1 wheel nuts cost 1000£" instead of 50.000£?

  • @aluisious

    @aluisious

    Ай бұрын

    It's clickbait

  • @SupraSav

    @SupraSav

    Ай бұрын

    I was originally thinking the same thing. The thing is, when you factor in the R&D his number might not be that far off.

  • @christopherdean1326

    @christopherdean1326

    22 күн бұрын

    What is it with this new habit of putting the £/$ sign AFTER the number?

  • @xtianeskay5166

    @xtianeskay5166

    22 күн бұрын

    @@christopherdean1326 this is very common depending on the country you live in

  • @christopherdean1326

    @christopherdean1326

    22 күн бұрын

    @@xtianeskay5166 Maybe, but not in the UK or the US, both of which I have seen many times...

  • @87TIG
    @87TIG11 ай бұрын

    Not a big Mercedes fan but still felt terrible for Bottas when he had to sit and watch the great drive he put on get nullified by bad luck.

  • @stayoffthemarbles6790

    @stayoffthemarbles6790

    11 ай бұрын

    If bottas didnt have bad luck, he would have no luck at all. Poor guy

  • @rolmops883

    @rolmops883

    11 ай бұрын

    Pretty sure Bottas wouldn't call himself a Mercedes fan either.

  • @stephencurry8552

    @stephencurry8552

    11 ай бұрын

    Was nullified by his error. His personal, no one else error.

  • @bipolarminddroppings

    @bipolarminddroppings

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@stayoffthemarbles6790 he was born under bad sign.

  • @machiavellian7490

    @machiavellian7490

    11 ай бұрын

    Should of gone to KwikFit

  • @akshajjgopal
    @akshajjgopal11 ай бұрын

    I can only imagine how buff 1950's pit crews would be....

  • @DroneStrike1776

    @DroneStrike1776

    11 ай бұрын

    I just watched the Penske cheating history on a small channel, they said the full refill valve had enough force to knock a person down when you switch it shut it off. The refueler was terrified just to refuel the car. Imagine how strong he had to be to handle that.

  • @KitKitChanIsaac

    @KitKitChanIsaac

    11 ай бұрын

    More buff than Gigachad

  • @adamb2619

    @adamb2619

    11 ай бұрын

    And weere likely smoking while smacking a hammer.

  • @Red_Salmond

    @Red_Salmond

    11 ай бұрын

    @@adamb2619 The only way to do it

  • @Veiee

    @Veiee

    5 ай бұрын

    @@DroneStrike1776 The Penske file

  • @WizardOfOss
    @WizardOfOss11 ай бұрын

    That's just....nuts!

  • @SleepyPopups

    @SleepyPopups

    10 ай бұрын

    Rim shot at the ready

  • @camerone397
    @camerone39711 ай бұрын

    this is pretty cool, I was involved in designing the wheel nuts (and hubs) for my school's FSAE car and it's neat to see how the pros do it. We also machine centerlock nuts out of aluminum, but pit stop times aren't particularly important for us so we use a simple clip for retention

  • @Powk-mz1cp

    @Powk-mz1cp

    11 ай бұрын

    Thats pretty awesome!

  • @roryevans4295
    @roryevans429511 ай бұрын

    With the wheel guns being spec I honestly thought the wheel nuts were also a shared part just like the tyres, I had no idea so much innovation went in to wheel nuts, it’s nuts 🥜 😂

  • @ZwilnikSF
    @ZwilnikSF11 ай бұрын

    I've actually got a Caterham one from 2014 when they were auctioning off old bits to get to the last race of the season. (cost me a lot less than £1000 though! ). Now I know why it has a green plastic ring on it :)

  • @sandydennylives1392

    @sandydennylives1392

    11 ай бұрын

    And to think a whole pro bike in the Tour de France, wheels 'n all, costs just shy of £ 20K.

  • @alaska2026
    @alaska202611 ай бұрын

    I am so happy that i discovered this YT channel, i learn a LOT and it is so much fun to understand how things work behind the scenes. Thank you or all your hard work and for explaining random things that are sooo interesting ❤

  • @Comment-sw5rz

    @Comment-sw5rz

    10 ай бұрын

    I wouldn't trust this grabage, £50,000 is somehow equal to $16,1950

  • @mojoanniebert
    @mojoanniebert11 ай бұрын

    The spline drive wheel nut / socket was developed in 1994 by a small company named “Metalore” (who are still involved in F1, Prototype and Sports Car Racing) Newman / Haas was their test team in 1995 and Metalore was also the 1st distributor of Paoli Pit Guns in North America. By 1996 every team in the CART paddock ran that design and it became the norm world wide.

  • @GPRaceSimulation

    @GPRaceSimulation

    10 ай бұрын

    Kenny at Metalore had long been friends with John Barnard and we used them to make all our axles and CV joints etc (anything out of 330M) at Ferrari and later at TWR and Prost. Those splined features were on the JB Ferraris around that time and so I wouldn't be surprised if they were a result of collaboration between Kenny and JB.

  • @mojoanniebert

    @mojoanniebert

    9 ай бұрын

    @@GPRaceSimulation Yes - Kenny and JB were good friends. And still best mates up until Kenny's passing in 2022. It was actually Gordon Kimball who came up with the spline drive socket / nut solution for us to complement our drive line components we developed for Newman Haas (I work for Metalore as their track side support rep in North America). Kenny would also smile saying the only time F1 learned something from CART. We still use 300m + various other materials for today's modern driveline systems.

  • @AvB.83
    @AvB.8311 ай бұрын

    I never thought THAT much efford went into designing and making the weel nuts. It's easy enough to see why the engine or the bodywork is so expensive (only to constantly see cars that lost bits of the later doing the exact same times as before), but the attention to detail that goes into the small parts gets overlooked so easily.

  • @washellwash1802

    @washellwash1802

    10 ай бұрын

    It's a spinning object, so every gram it has gets magnified when the car gets up to speed. Excess weight in the wheels affects acceleration, braking, and cornering at all speeds whereas a lot of the bodywork only starts to work at higher speeds.

  • @bennylloyd-willner9667

    @bennylloyd-willner9667

    11 күн бұрын

    ​@@washellwash1802and also it's a part that comes off and goes on the car every Grand Prix. With the minuscule time spent on doing that it makes it pretty easy to see that effort is needed in designing it.

  • @radamus210
    @radamus21011 ай бұрын

    With NASCAR's introduction last year of the single nut, we saw a lot of evolution, growth. Wheels were flying off everywhere. They still don't have it down perfect getting those drive pins seated. The F1 guys do it so fast you have to watch in slow motion to see them actually do it where it looks like they get em lined up perfectly every time.

  • @Hal9023

    @Hal9023

    11 ай бұрын

    To be fair, f1 has a person who’s only job is to use the wheel gun for one wheel while NASCAR has to get the whole stop done with 5 people and one guy is fueling the car and one is usually operating the jack.

  • @radamus210

    @radamus210

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Hal9023 Very true - Organized chaos for sure. I was with a photographer friend of mine during a nascar race at MIS, down on the pit wall during the race - about shit my pants to see that 5 feet away. On the same note, the precision of an F1 stop is also art in motion. So much pressure

  • @Hal9023

    @Hal9023

    11 ай бұрын

    @@radamus210 it’s true, if a guy messes up in a NASCAR stop, depending on where he messes up it may cost a bit of time but in f1 if one guy messes up it’s a 10 second stop.

  • @bogusphone8000

    @bogusphone8000

    11 ай бұрын

    Really miss seeing the well tuned NASCAR pit crews. Only a few people over the wall doing everything and watching them tighten 5 lug nuts per wheel in seconds. F1 would benefit from this kind of pitting.

  • @Dr.Mcstaby

    @Dr.Mcstaby

    11 ай бұрын

    that was Nascars dumbest Idea ever people barley come to the tracks cause the tickets are so expensive then they remake all the cars with crap. If Nascar want to get a fan base growing again they should follow Cleetus Mcfarland's lead and put real stock cars from the dealerships in the race's like they use to, Id love to see a bunch of pedestrian cars race on a track it would be way more entertaining to see those go around the track that those "stock" cars

  • @videomaniac108
    @videomaniac10811 ай бұрын

    You're making me feel much better about the $12,000 I'm spending on a set of forged magnesium monoblock wheels for my sports car.

  • @ALENGLEDJA

    @ALENGLEDJA

    11 ай бұрын

    Lets go back to reality, my whole car is worth 1500$

  • @everettstormy

    @everettstormy

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@ALENGLEDJAyeah, mines 1700, im trying to come up with 200 to build a new exhuast. Not for performance, it all rusted and fell off

  • @DroneStrike1776

    @DroneStrike1776

    11 ай бұрын

    I'm over here contemplating on spending $1900 on rotary forge Konig wheels with some Conti tires for my 2019 Mazda 3 hatchback.

  • @DroneStrike1776

    @DroneStrike1776

    11 ай бұрын

    @@everettstormy I just spend $700+ doing the all the brakes for my e90. 17 year old car, the rear calipers was rusted AF due to New England snow. Day 4 and still not finished. Just have to bleed it.

  • @rubeneeltink8607

    @rubeneeltink8607

    11 ай бұрын

    I spent 600 euro on a set of BBS CH rims included with Pirelli tires, absolutely amazing deal

  • @radamus210
    @radamus21011 ай бұрын

    Super piece Scott! WOW! I had no idea of this throwaway expense - incredible. On Bottas nut in Monaco the gun man basically made the gun a stump grinder. Do some of the teams use a gun with a safety button on the inside for positive engagement to prevent this? Thought I'd picked that up somewhere.

  • @MikkoRantalainen

    @MikkoRantalainen

    11 ай бұрын

    That's my thinking too, it would make sense to have pressure operated switch inside the wrench socket and the wrench only activates when enough pressure is detected (say, 20N). This would require the wrench operator to just hold the trigger while pressing the gun towards the nut and when pressed hard enough, it takes off the nut. And if the slots do not engage, you couldn't apply the 20N pressure no matter how much you press.

  • @simonwadd4038

    @simonwadd4038

    8 ай бұрын

    I imagine downside would be more parts means more failures. And maybe adds a tiny amount of time too to register and activate. For how rare that happens not worth it. @@MikkoRantalainen

  • @MikkoRantalainen

    @MikkoRantalainen

    8 ай бұрын

    @@simonwadd4038 Yeah, and I've later found out that the wheel guns are standardized / regulated, too, so if the gun doesn't have such feature it cannot be added by the team either.

  • @matthewcornelius5862
    @matthewcornelius586211 ай бұрын

    You also have to think of the machines they use to make these parts. A Yasda or Doosan multi axis multi spindle machining center can cost over 1 million dollars. The cam software to program and design costs tons of money. The tooling for the CNC machines costs tons of money. The inspection tools to measure the parts after machining cost tons of money. All these tools require calibration and certification. The level of knowledge to operate and efficiently use these systems to make these parts require highly skilled, and sometimes highly paid professionals to run. As an application engineer I always look at these parts from a production standpoint and can clearly see why it has the price it does. Believe it or not, if another shop were to set up and try to make the same parts from scratch at $1000 per part, I bet it would be hard to break even.

  • @cristibaluta

    @cristibaluta

    5 ай бұрын

    There's no guy like Musk in F1, this is the only reason it's so expensive, they don't care about the costs because the sponsors pay

  • @PREDATOR07
    @PREDATOR0710 ай бұрын

    I like how Scott compared the USB cable connection with the wheel nut. I hate the USB and never get it right at the first try.

  • 11 ай бұрын

    Impressive and informative content, keep it up, Driver61, I love your videos. ❤

  • @rccdesign
    @rccdesign11 ай бұрын

    50 000 per race? THAT IS NUTS!

  • @drippingwax

    @drippingwax

    11 ай бұрын

    No! 50'000 per race! I don't have any idea what that means!

  • @deltaray3

    @deltaray3

    11 ай бұрын

    Lots of nuts

  • @riptear
    @riptear11 ай бұрын

    If they fail that's when they cost way more...

  • @davidperry4013

    @davidperry4013

    11 ай бұрын

    Replacing an F1 car after it gets totaled in a racing accident is around 16 million dollars.

  • @PorchPotatoMike
    @PorchPotatoMike11 ай бұрын

    The right side nuts are red and the left are green? Apparently none of the engineers are sailors.

  • @deputydd4364

    @deputydd4364

    10 ай бұрын

    Actually the drawing does show red is left and right is green like a boat. He said it the wrong way round. I rewound and checked as it sounded wrong to me as a sailor!!

  • @bennylloyd-willner9667

    @bennylloyd-willner9667

    11 күн бұрын

    Yes, because if they were sailors they would be unable to distinguish from what situation they are in... A sailboat or an F1 pit - they are soooo similar😂 I know he said it wrong in the video, but why the heck should a sailing interested engineer have trouble distinguishing racing cars from sailing, they can't be that daft?😂 Pre så crew are helped by the fact the heating covers are marked with text so if they just can depart front from back and left from right the wheels will be delivered to the correct corner of the car😊

  • @gullreefclub
    @gullreefclub11 ай бұрын

    Hammer on and off wheel nuts were common place on British “sports cars” with wire spoked wheels up until the early 1970’s. Cars that had the optional wire spoked wheels with “spinner” wheel nuts (hammer on and off style as opposed to hex nuts) came with a short handled 2&1/2 pound “hard”:lead hammer in there tool kit along with the cars jack in the boot of the car. Also available with spoked wire wheels was a large hex nut which also came a hand use only socket and a bar to loosed/tightened the wheel nut. Both wheel nuts were stamped with a L if they were left handed thread. Additionally Wire spoked wheels and hammer on and off wheel nuts were an option on some Alpha Romeo’s as well.

  • @mlinderict

    @mlinderict

    10 ай бұрын

    Had a 1962 MGA 1600 MK II Deluxe. Knock offs with pinned steel wheels; it was a Twin Cam 4-disc brakes. REALLY miss that car!

  • @wigs1098

    @wigs1098

    9 ай бұрын

    That's right, this video is a little misleading in only talking about racing after WW2.. Centre lock wire wheels were common on British cars before the war and also were left and right threaded for the reasons stated in this video. For anyone who has had a classic English sportscar this stuff is nothing new.

  • @ronnydawson8594
    @ronnydawson859410 ай бұрын

    I used these on my lowrider I kept a mallet in the trunk and once a week or whenever I was thinking it I would take out the mallet and give each wheel a good couple wacks. Totally makes people nervous when you're talking with them and you just pull out a 4 pound dead blow with a defeated dead pan look.

  • @proto57
    @proto5721 сағат бұрын

    My 1960's Trumphs, MGs and Sunbeams with wire wheels also had a winged, center nut, and all came with a lead mallet with wooden handle to secure and remove them. Even though the lead was soft, it still dented the chrome plated nut wings a bit.

  • @insertname1841
    @insertname184111 ай бұрын

    Those prices are nuts!

  • @thomas316
    @thomas31611 ай бұрын

    Something I've always wondered is how F1 teams manage fuel pre-race. They obviously have a set quantity of fuel to use but they have drive the car to the grid, do a parade lap etc. It doesn't look like any F1 team tries to save fuel pre-race and they all drive to park ferme after the race. How do they know exactly how much fuel was used?

  • @wesselboeijen8709

    @wesselboeijen8709

    10 ай бұрын

    They gather a lot of data on fuel consumption during the practice sessions, sending the cars out with varying fuel loads etc

  • @nbmufc94
    @nbmufc9411 ай бұрын

    Wow. This video was so interesting. Thanks. I know you said the impact guns can go to 4000nm but how much torque is applied to the F1 cars?

  • @brucehamilton6019
    @brucehamilton601911 ай бұрын

    I was so pumped after Monaco quali, that I installed my new long cranks. And I used an orange 2lbs urethane mallet

  • @sharg0
    @sharg011 ай бұрын

    Pure aluminium is soft yes. But that's not what is used. Aluminium alloys can be both hard and strong. And as a machinist that have worked with materials from basic aluminium alloys (it's never used pure) to heat resistant superalloys like Inconel I know that machinable aluminium alloys are among the easiest to work with. However I'm sure the alloys in these are very specific, perhaps custom made. I wouldn't be surprised if several teams use secret alloys, thus the in-house manufacturing (otherwise they would save a lot by buying from one external shop, it ain't a difficult part with unusual requirements)

  • @bertram-raven

    @bertram-raven

    11 ай бұрын

    They are not permitted to use the more exotic alloys. All the teams are mandated to use the same alloy. The entire materials list for braking systems must be published openly. No exceptions. So, no, none of the teams are using secret intergalactic alien space metals.

  • @AaronShenghao

    @AaronShenghao

    11 ай бұрын

    They probably used forged wheel nuts with machining

  • @martinbrandmuller8272

    @martinbrandmuller8272

    11 ай бұрын

    AFAIK in motorsport they usually use EN-AW-7075 alloy for parts like these.

  • @kachler67

    @kachler67

    11 ай бұрын

    @@martinbrandmuller8272 7075 T6 to be precise, it’s a tempered (and thus hardened) version. But as it isn’t really heat resistant due to dispersion of the carbide molecules, alloys of the 2XXX range are used for higher temp applications

  • @chowjohnathan2825

    @chowjohnathan2825

    11 ай бұрын

    Sorry this is probably a stupid question instead of aluminum alloy why don't teams use titanium nuts. Because if I'm not mistaken titanium is light but strong. So there is less chance of stripping the nut.

  • @OMM.F1
    @OMM.F1Ай бұрын

    Sauber seems to have a cheaper version💀

  • @bristolhinson5602

    @bristolhinson5602

    Ай бұрын

    Came here for this.

  • @antoniohagopian213
    @antoniohagopian21311 ай бұрын

    0:09 didn't know there was 4 numbers after the 16 for sixteen thousand

  • @niklaswo
    @niklaswo11 ай бұрын

    Thanks for these interesting and information dense videos. Feel like I can digest years of experience and knowledge in a few KZread minutes. Not for actual use but for trivia 😊

  • @gdoumit
    @gdoumit11 ай бұрын

    I never thought I'd be interested in wheel nuts but as usual this channel always surprises me with this type of educational content.

  • @SelectCircle

    @SelectCircle

    11 ай бұрын

    They're now my obsession. O_O

  • @teebosaurusyou

    @teebosaurusyou

    11 ай бұрын

    @@SelectCircle That's nuts......

  • @lunkydog
    @lunkydog11 ай бұрын

    Hex has 8 ways? Are you counting 2 of the 6 flats twice?

  • @martindindos9009

    @martindindos9009

    11 ай бұрын

    It's a mythical 8-sided hex nut. As rare as unicorn....

  • @jamesfiegel9675
    @jamesfiegel967511 ай бұрын

    Your site is the best for INFO on Formula 1 ...thank you for all the effort :)

  • @lotuselansteve
    @lotuselansteve11 ай бұрын

    Lotus Elans also used the 3 winged nuts and a mallet was part of the tool kit.

  • @allu4145
    @allu414511 ай бұрын

    What a Quali😳

  • @backtothegrid3531
    @backtothegrid353111 ай бұрын

    As a mechanic who services and works on cars every day this has been one of the most interesting parts of motorsports to me, particularly how why try to avoid cross threading of the nuts on the spline whilst not having to hand thread them first

  • @jeffreyroth7517

    @jeffreyroth7517

    11 ай бұрын

    The machining is better, but worst case, the nuts are softer than the stub, so it would only happen that one time then be taken off and changed out for a new nut.

  • @snorman1911

    @snorman1911

    10 ай бұрын

    Yeah every time I see them blast the nuts on all I can think of is a cross threading!

  • @bikingshaun
    @bikingshaun11 ай бұрын

    New title, why several wheel nuts cost 50,000. Interesting video despite the misleading title.

  • @WatchJRGo
    @WatchJRGo11 ай бұрын

    Should probably mention that the hammer on/off nuts are called knock offs 🍻

  • @ericsbuds
    @ericsbuds11 ай бұрын

    WOW! i had no idea the reason old wheel lugs had those wings on them! I thought it was for looks or aerodynamics! They actually hammered the nut on with them :D

  • @pkincy

    @pkincy

    11 ай бұрын

    My 61 Austin Healey 3000 came with a brass hammer to get the wheels off and on.

  • @cooperwrks

    @cooperwrks

    11 ай бұрын

    They are called Knock-off nuts...

  • @wngimageanddesign9546
    @wngimageanddesign954611 ай бұрын

    The tri-winged center wheel nuts weren't just because there were no impact guns powerful enough at the time. It's because the racing regulations required only the driver (and navigator) to work on their own disabled car. No mechanic can help if they blew a tire on track. Thus a single mallet could be used by a driver to replace a wheel, and it was small enough to be stored onboard. A 2 meter long breaker bar and socket was much to big and heavy.

  • @deeplearning7097
    @deeplearning709711 ай бұрын

    Excellent coverage, very detailed and comprehensive, thank you very much.

  • @XBullitt16X
    @XBullitt16X11 ай бұрын

    I've been fascinated with these specialized wheel nuts for a while now, always wondered how they were designed and how they stay locked to the wheel when removed from the car. I'm glad finally have a video talking about them, as they're never mentioned when talking about bigger things about the cars like engines and aero.

  • @Powk-mz1cp

    @Powk-mz1cp

    11 ай бұрын

    Dude, you should google the size of the torque wrench you would use if you owned a brand new porsche gt3 and manually were to tighten your centrenut on each rim 😂.

  • @TaisinViper
    @TaisinViper11 ай бұрын

    That was some "slick" editing on the word "Shrouds" lol. So if the wheels aren't able to be reused can they melt them down and re-cast or send them back to have them re-cast and recycle the wheel nuts bringing down costs?

  • @ATomRileyA

    @ATomRileyA

    11 ай бұрын

    I don't think there would be much saving in the raw materials its probably the machining and manufacturing of the part that puts the cost up so would be the same no matter if they used recycled metal or not.

  • @davidwilhelmsen980

    @davidwilhelmsen980

    11 ай бұрын

    The nuts aren't cast, but machined from a billet of aluminium, hence the massive costs. Casting isn't accurate enough to be used in that setting. Also the possibility of impurities or internal weaknesses makes it unsuitable for high performance parts.

  • @dean4609

    @dean4609

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@David Wilhelmsen They are very much machined from cast aluminium. At least, in mercedes' case they are

  • @jesselingardarmy1254
    @jesselingardarmy125411 ай бұрын

    Who else is here after watching Monaco Qualifying?

  • @alkaragini5003

    @alkaragini5003

    11 ай бұрын

    Is alonso still pole

  • @bambambam1807

    @bambambam1807

    11 ай бұрын

    @@alkaragini5003 verstappen pole alonso p2

  • @alkaragini5003

    @alkaragini5003

    11 ай бұрын

    I am happy and also sad.

  • @shanti138

    @shanti138

    11 ай бұрын

    so close for alonso

  • @ElMoShApPiNeSs

    @ElMoShApPiNeSs

    11 ай бұрын

    Wtf is a monaco? Stop making shit up

  • @ludwigvanel9192
    @ludwigvanel91928 ай бұрын

    Whenever I try to get a bolt into a nut, I must first cautiously line up the threads, before I strip it / destroy the thread for good. That is not the path to 2 second pitstops. How do F1 teams make that work?

  • @fetB
    @fetB11 ай бұрын

    thx for the footage sources

  • @brisbaneinsider7139
    @brisbaneinsider713910 ай бұрын

    So its actually £1000 .🙄

  • @DaniMacYo
    @DaniMacYo11 ай бұрын

    50K? well that's just NUTS hehe.

  • @lewishamilton9251

    @lewishamilton9251

    11 ай бұрын

    man

  • @grogery1570
    @grogery157011 ай бұрын

    I remember the old Australian touring car races. The wheel nuts were the same ones that went on a standard car and a pit stop could take two and a half minutes.

  • @andrewahern3730

    @andrewahern3730

    11 ай бұрын

    NASCAR was that way until recently (still is in lower divisions). Helmets are definitely necessary with cars peeling out spraying lug nuts

  • @halofreak1990

    @halofreak1990

    11 ай бұрын

    @@andrewahern3730 But in NASCAR, those pit stops were FAST. Sure, they weren't required to get all five nuts properly on after a stop, but still. Impressive to see how fast they got those 5 wheel nuts off each wheel and get the new ones on

  • @tenacious1963
    @tenacious1963Ай бұрын

    Dad was an old school panel beater, and used to do lead-loading, instead of plastic putty on a gentlemans Maserati, and it had knock-on hubs with the very damaged hammer in the boot. Hi from Melbourne, Australia.

  • @cheapeatsasia
    @cheapeatsasia11 ай бұрын

    Who knew that the secret to making a million dollars in F1 was as simple as tightening a few nuts? I guess that's what they mean by 'turning a small fortune into a big one'!

  • @katsaras1
    @katsaras111 ай бұрын

    £50'000? Damn, that's nuts

  • @wozmac771
    @wozmac77110 ай бұрын

    thx for clarifying why the wings used to be on the 60s cars.

  • @randal3122
    @randal312210 ай бұрын

    honestly, if you can win your first race in a competitive series, thats pretty good. i dont know how cimpetitive that series is or how many cars there were. but on ovak track in the states, winning a race with 20 cars really is an accomplishment. and ive never seen a driver even be in the top 10 in their first ever real race

  • @tomlane3522
    @tomlane352211 ай бұрын

    Got 2 race used ones from Mercedes at Bahrain 2013, very light for the size

  • @tepreh4676
    @tepreh467610 ай бұрын

    Reads title: ok thats insane... 5 seconds into the video: did you know a simple wheel nut costs nearly 1k pounds... like wtf

  • @adan507
    @adan50711 ай бұрын

    Great video man, where could i find more F1 drawings?

  • @zachwilkens7524
    @zachwilkens752411 ай бұрын

    Watching the history of Le Mans recently and seeing them change the tires by hammering them out was wild haha

  • @joblo341

    @joblo341

    10 ай бұрын

    Very early races they had a ride along mechanic. Had to change spark plugs during race (in pit), manually pump oil during race, spotted following cars for driver (no rear-view mirrors!) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riding_mechanic

  • @zackator4565
    @zackator456510 ай бұрын

    Imagine you are a colorblind mechanic at the pitstop in 2014. "You can see that he right side wheel nuts were anodized red, and the left were green."

  • @aniyn
    @aniyn11 ай бұрын

    I have one of those Honda wheel nuts, didn't know the history behind them. Kinda neat!

  • @Elizabeth-vh6il
    @Elizabeth-vh6ilАй бұрын

    Wow! Love the way that F1 innovates. Just wish we got to see more of these details analysed on TV.

  • @rayanaraujo6898
    @rayanaraujo689811 ай бұрын

    Didn't know these nuts exists

  • @Nightspyz1
    @Nightspyz111 ай бұрын

    i loved learning about these nuts

  • @spencertegtmeyer6525
    @spencertegtmeyer65254 ай бұрын

    "These hex nuts have eight ways they can locate correctly." I think you just started spinning it a second time around counting those

  • @procatprocat9647
    @procatprocat964711 ай бұрын

    6:50 the part drawing is fun to see. Rather basic GD@T but it is from back in 2014

  • @papabits5721
    @papabits572111 ай бұрын

    Great explanation, can you or have done a video on F1 brake systems

  • @philipwatson2407
    @philipwatson240711 ай бұрын

    Until recently, part of the standard Morgan owner's tool kit provided by the factory, included a hammer for undoing the centre wheel hub nut..

  • @stanb1455
    @stanb145511 ай бұрын

    Did you know: Every F1 car part costs about £50000, but teams and the FIA lie about the prices.

  • @av6728
    @av67289 ай бұрын

    I'm adding this to my "videos with thumbnails that immediately ignite my psychotic rage" playlist

  • @Khuros
    @Khuros10 ай бұрын

    "takes a long time to change" nascar pit crews: faster than the rest at lemans

  • @osql8
    @osql810 ай бұрын

    6:55 No, the right side are green and the left side are red (as it should be) and as the drawing details calls for.

  • @jamesbarrick3403
    @jamesbarrick340311 ай бұрын

    F1 tech continues to be awesome. So much does trickle down to what we drive.

  • @dangergamez
    @dangergamez11 ай бұрын

    That was a smooth add transition though!

  • @user-me5eb8pk5v
    @user-me5eb8pk5v9 ай бұрын

    he regenerative system can completely replace the wheen nut, a quarter inch thick of metal has zero resistance to direct current. So the right hand rule expands outward, but through shells, eacj shell is crazy glued to the next shell, so th resistance remains close to zero and moves back and forth by reverse interference winding layers, then you can pay somebody a years salary for free 500HP wheel nuts. I thought about it making a go kart, its just the arcing, or power transmission that took a little tweaking, first idea was to use ball bearings to deliver the power betwean the shells, (inner and outer).

  • @ivan_domangaming9359
    @ivan_domangaming935911 ай бұрын

    That was a smooth sponsor transition

  • @SpeakerMunkey
    @SpeakerMunkey10 ай бұрын

    6:54 "RIGTH HAND", nice to see I'm not the only one who makes spelling mistakes on drawings, hehe.

  • @tom6493
    @tom649311 ай бұрын

    6:00 “these HEX nuts have eight ways they can locate correctly”. Urmmm, you sure about that? 😂🤦‍♂️

  • @DChrls
    @DChrls11 ай бұрын

    I thought the splined wheel nuts were used in Indy Car before F1.

  • @drivejapan6293
    @drivejapan629310 ай бұрын

    They are made in house with a machine they already own by an employees already employed. Cost is very minimal. Especially when the make so many. Volume drives the costs down significantly. Recouping R&D and materials is where the price comes from. I have noticed a lot of F1 price estimates reuse a factor multiple times as well to inflate the numbers. Crude example, X part takes a CNC mill to make. The mill cost x amount, machine price / total x parts made = cost per part. But they don't tell you that machine also makes 10 other parts therefore reducing the total cost per part bast on the machine. I think Mercedes had a virtual F1 factory tour online that kind of indirectly pointed this out.

  • @originalmianos

    @originalmianos

    10 ай бұрын

    I was going to make this comment. Once the CAD and toolpaths are done, aside from the material those costs seem ridiculous. The metallurgy in a piston is a whole different ballgame of course.

  • @Red_Salmond
    @Red_Salmond11 ай бұрын

    What do you at F1 ? "-Me ? I am a Nutter, I remove and put nuts on"

  • @kipsned
    @kipsned11 ай бұрын

    How does £50,000 equal $16,195 in the intro?

  • @mariod3835
    @mariod383510 ай бұрын

    Great info and breakdown into f1 wheel nuts. I started this video just find out why they are so expensive but in the end I was disappointed by your answer because 1 wheel nut doesn't cost over 50k. It's all the wheel nuts they use over a weekend of racing cost over 50k. 😑

  • @Zt3v3
    @Zt3v311 ай бұрын

    Old VW *front* spindle nuts were reverse threaded on the right side too, same reason.

  • @suxix7312
    @suxix731211 ай бұрын

    Not sure if I should say this or not. I want money if it becomes a thing. But what if you can develope a wheel nut that tightens automatically when you drive the car away? You only need the impact gun to take the old nut off. The new auto tightening wheel nut can be held in place with a pin that it ment to brake away once the nut is tight enough. Imagine the time it could save on the pits. You can use weak magnets to hold the tires in place until the car starts to roll away. Then the nut self tightens.

  • @SelectCircle

    @SelectCircle

    11 ай бұрын

    You're the smartest KZreadr I've ever encountered. O_O

  • @bennylloyd-willner9667

    @bennylloyd-willner9667

    11 күн бұрын

    And the extra weight of this design is...?😊

  • @ElectricityTaster
    @ElectricityTaster10 ай бұрын

    In the next decade, F1 teams will have more lawyers trying to find loopholes in F1 rules than engineers coming up with better designs.

  • @sebastiantschatordai
    @sebastiantschatordai11 ай бұрын

    50k for that? That's nuts!

  • @doodskie999
    @doodskie99911 ай бұрын

    Man this episode is nuts

  • @diGritz1
    @diGritz19 ай бұрын

    Up to $50K...... That's just nuts.

  • @deadadam666
    @deadadam66611 ай бұрын

    i appreciate the timer at the bottom of your ad breaks

  • @anthonyw5261
    @anthonyw526111 ай бұрын

    What a great topic and explanation 🏎🏁👏👏

  • @DIZZYDAZZLER2011
    @DIZZYDAZZLER201110 ай бұрын

    I thought the left hand threads would be on the left (nearside) of the car so they would naturally tighten under braking? Or am I missing something here?

  • @VeryIntellijent
    @VeryIntellijent11 ай бұрын

    My whole net worth is less than a god damn wheel nut.

  • @emilienamaury3839
    @emilienamaury383911 ай бұрын

    I love this vidéo, that show more and more the technologies about the f1, and show us how f1 is incredible.

  • @hughfoster9632
    @hughfoster963211 ай бұрын

    The wheel nut guns have 4000 nm and 3000 rpm? I know these would only be peak numbers, but wouldn't that mean that for a split second, they'd be putting out 1600 hp?

  • @GaugeReality
    @GaugeReality10 ай бұрын

    Thanks for all the great video topics.

  • @CapeFox
    @CapeFox10 ай бұрын

    I didn't expect to learn so much about nuts.

  • @SimonTekConley
    @SimonTekConley7 ай бұрын

    I think the last f1 race I paid attention to was in the 90's, apparently the cars have evolved

  • @tomwatkins4730
    @tomwatkins4730Ай бұрын

    Enlightening. Good work.

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