Why Every Punk Band Loves Octave Riffs
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Nofx are the masters of this. Linoleum is a perfect case study
@bigbirdmusic8199
Жыл бұрын
Old offspring as well
@thewaywelive2775
Жыл бұрын
Millencolin, Lagwagon, no fun at all I think most of the 90's skatepunk bands flirtet with this really
@guilherme-guedes
Жыл бұрын
Blink as well... Not now, i miss you, feeling this, every time i look for you, and many bridges... Like in First date...
I love how you show us WHY we love a certain style of music!
The Japanese band Asian Kung Fu Generation uses these a lot too. Absolutely love it.
@sound-sakura
Жыл бұрын
Their song Rewrite used in Fullmetal Alchemist 2003 (which I think is awesome, frankly) comes to mind for me.
@phewiss3066
Жыл бұрын
thats one hell of a band name lol
I love when bands use octave riffs, my favourite is probably the chorus to Welcome to the Black Parade as it is almost the same notes as the vocal melody
I love a good octave chord, I use them everywhere!
My favorite use of octave chords is in "Demon of the Fall" by Opeth.
I still remember the first time me and my friend played ‘Duckpond’ on two guitars, usually I would only play on my own with just the rhythm. It blew our fucking minds.
Neck deep uses these for leads often. Can make some cool counter melodies
So many of the songs I write have these chords in them and I never knew that they were called octave chords. Neat.
On the more metal slide slipknot likes to use a lot of octave riffs especially in their earlier years
Love that you used Choking Victim for an example.
@SugarpillProd
10 ай бұрын
They're one of my favourites for sure!
Ah, I somehow did not know they had a name. An octave with a bass progression is my definition of pop punk rock vibe.
Thank you on the tips. I already knew how to play octaves but I didn't know how to use them, so thank you.
@SugarpillProd
Жыл бұрын
Sure man, I'm glad it helped!
Been using that dual-cord sound for many years.. never knew how was it called 😅
A trick I figured out ages ago, split your chords between two guitars.
@allyemeraart
Жыл бұрын
one guitarist plays 5ths, one guitar plays 3rds and 4ths and BOOM you literally sound so much cooler than power chords.
underrated channel
bruv! thanks for this vid, so simple yet so powerful !!
@SugarpillProd
Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
I'm a simple man, I hear no use for a name, I like it
I love octave riffs!
Tom Delonge applied this Alien Exist and Please Take Me Home on blink record.
actually really cool: ) thank you for teaching!
Octaves are a must-be in pop punks. I'm not okayyyyyyyyyyyyyy
@AnotherAzh
Жыл бұрын
you wear me oooouuuuuuut
I fkn love octave riffs!
My favorite example would be Falling Apart by Lagwagon
The Smashing Pumpkins also use these quite a bit
Does anyone know the name of that no use for a name song from the live video PLEASE lol.
I love the tune for that one song by that one vegan punk band but I actually think it's too fast. It could be slowed down to be heavier and personally I'd take the octave chords out entirely. I re-wrote it to have the first three chords, the last one with augmented suspensions, then for the descending final chords I have probably the first chord and then end with a bunch of notes until it resolves on F. You can probably guess the notes I play but I have to figure out the right speed to play it so that it's heavy enough.
What's the name of the song at 0:50?
Shhh you're giving away all the secrets
the best octave playing i head was by WES MONTGOMERY
Do you have any videos about tracking acoustic guitars?
@SugarpillProd
Жыл бұрын
I've made one that will be uploaded soon. What exactly did you want to know about tracking them?
@mattfritz8806
Жыл бұрын
@@SugarpillProd I guess everything! How to get a fatter sound from them. Vocals too:D
Stop giving away all these secrets! Lol. I literally just wrote a song last night that has a prominent octave chord lead. My music would be slightly less impressive to people if they knew how easy it is to get the sound I do. At the same time I'd love to hear the results of people taking your tips and writing original music.
@kutsumiru
Жыл бұрын
I hate to tell you friend octave chords are no secret
@mastod0n1
Жыл бұрын
@@kutsumiru I know but a lot of people that I know don't know. Most of the songs I write are good but not anything special. But the mixing and layering tricks that Sugarpill shows off are the things that make people think my songs sound "professional."
@David_Downs
Жыл бұрын
@@mastod0n1 fascinating.
@grantsch1861
Жыл бұрын
@@mastod0n1 riiight
Sounds like some kid got into my cd collection again
Let’s not forget ‘Smile’ by Bigwig
@theinterpersonalskillscoac6032
Жыл бұрын
And if you haven’t heard it, look it up, you won’t be disappointed.
Guitar World magazine... 1996 maybe? The guitar solo on "My Friends" by RHCP was the first time I met "octave chords" and have been a huge fan since. The omission of the fifth makes it so when you get to the diminished chord (the bVII* in major or the II* in minor) it still fits in a diatonic progression. Love to use split chords too- ex.: C#m7 = X4X45X -because they still have the third and the seventh while being easier to move around the fretboard. ✌💗🤘
someone know what is the song from NUFAN?
love the Shai Hulud intro!!!!!
you should make a chords variation bible for us
clique riff...find your own sound....unless you like sounding like top 40..ooops I meant hardcore punk.
@SugarpillProd
Жыл бұрын
Yeah because top 40 is full of this type of sound 😂
possessions never meant anything to me, I'm not crazy. :) it's the muted string in the middle that leaves room for the pain. ;)
I can't understand clearly, for example in Chasing rainbows, the chords are played on the same frets. Could you explain me? Thanks for your channel and what you do!!
@SugarpillProd
Жыл бұрын
In Chasing Rainbows, they're playing two different octaves parts at the start. The left guitar is just playing octaves of each root note, and the right guitar alternates between octaves for the 3rd & 5th of those same root notes. For instance, when the left guitar plays a C octave, the right guitar plays an E octave, which is the 3rd of the C. Hope that helps!
Fermented and Flailing
Jazz slowly opens one eye ... and closes it again
Built to Spill - end of the song Else
But where did it all start ? In rock music it was Hendrix with ‘Third Rock from the Sun’ . Then Brian Baker brought it to hardcore punk with Dag Nasty in the late 80s… listen to ‘Values Here’ and most songs off ‘can I say’ . This is where pop punk got their sound.
I saw NUFAN 6 months before Tony died 🥺
You should put a seymour duncan invader humbucker in that tele for the neck pickup ;)
@SugarpillProd
Жыл бұрын
I think that might be a bit overkill, haha.
@IceBreakBottle
Жыл бұрын
@@SugarpillProd Not at all.. you would get a better "pop-punk" tone. Or at least mod it to a four switch so you can use your pickups in series mode.
@SugarpillProd
Жыл бұрын
@@IceBreakBottle Yeah, maybe. I don't really like the sound of invaders, regardless.
Billy Corgan / Jimi Hendrix
Swedish death metal, D-Beat, pretty much anything with melody uses them.
What's the first song you play in the video? I'm drawing a blank on the name right now
@mtveltri
Жыл бұрын
It's Rise Against - Savior, just remembered
RIP Tony Sly
I like how you hide the guitar brand in shame
@SugarpillProd
Жыл бұрын
As if I'd even care about guitar brands 😂
I would call this a Dyad, and not a chord :P
what's the song playing at 0:50
@SugarpillProd
Жыл бұрын
Life Size Mirror by NUFAN.
Stevie Ray Vaughn loves this trick he’s blues
Lit - my own worst enemy
because
Oh yeah that's what those are called. I use those all the time with stupidly ridiculous fuzz when I doom too.
How to make song like better luck next time, or maybe a synth pop punk video
What are the songs at the beginning? They sound so familiar.
How good is Millencolin
@SugarpillProd
Жыл бұрын
One of my favourites for sure!
Dave Navarro uses this in the solo in My Friends by RHCP
@yurigoncalves9861
Жыл бұрын
And Warped, i think
Can you help with don't call me white riff?
@SugarpillProd
Жыл бұрын
What bit are you struggling with?
@andyj8814
Жыл бұрын
@@SugarpillProd the other guitar part if that makes sense, can't find the chords just doesn't sound right
@SugarpillProd
Жыл бұрын
@@andyj8814 I haven't played it in awhile, but I believe it's mostly power chords, and then the little riffy bit is just using a mix of 5ths, accidentals and 6ths. I think that riffy bit is an B/D#, E5, B/D#, to a F#6. As long as you've got those down, and the strumming pattern - which is the usual skate punk pattern, just with a bunch of stops & starts - then it shouldn't be too tricky to learn.
@andyj8814
Жыл бұрын
@@SugarpillProd thanks mate
because its easy to do
was that a choking victim riff you threw in there? sounded like 500 channels. haha
@SugarpillProd
Жыл бұрын
Good ear 👍
@DutchChattahoochee
Жыл бұрын
@@SugarpillProd thanks! yes, a fan of that band and that song in particular. like many people, I've listened to it a million times. lol like, IT SOUNDS FAMILIAR! lol great video!
Chocking victim riff
Dead Fish
Punk guitar is kinda a misnomer since hardly anyone in punk bands can actually play guitar. it's all ridiculously inept amatuer beginning lever playing. And i don't think these are actually chords since they are simply 1 note + octave. You need more than 1 note to form a chord. These are simply octaves.
@SugarpillProd
Жыл бұрын
You obviously haven't heard many punk bands, if you think everything is simple. Try learning some Strung Out or Propagandhi, and you'll see this isn't the case.
blink-182 was good with this
First song that came to mind was sum 41s walking disaster
I need a fuxkin electric I am bored of acoustic now
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I miss the times when Tom actually wrote riffs and didn't rely heavily on octave riffs for guitar "parts". Dude can't even be bothered to move the chord around in some songs.
@gabriellevesque-lessard5052
Жыл бұрын
We are far far far away from the Buddha/Cheshire cat era ☹️☹️
@thomasj.9686
Жыл бұрын
@@gabriellevesque-lessard5052 he doesn't even have to go back to that. I'd be happy enough if he didn't sit on A5 for a whole verse while Mark's bass and the synth pads dictated the chord changes.
@gabriellevesque-lessard5052
Жыл бұрын
@@thomasj.9686 Yup he over use the A5 lol... mark too
@gabriellevesque-lessard5052
Жыл бұрын
@@thomasj.9686 The Buddha era was great for outstanding guitar riffs!!!
@danoliver3053
Жыл бұрын
These comments are so cringe. I used to love earlier Blink albums and can still appreciate them, but the first couple of albums are in no way their peak (as with most bands), and there's plenty of skilled and creative guitar playing in later albums all the way up TOYPAJ album. Also, Tom has used octaves in his playing throughout the whole of Blink's discography, so I don't know what you're all complaining about.
that's not punk, this is like more subgenera like emo, melodic hardcore etc...
Tom Petty - American girl (that at its best)
Nu metal in a nutshell
This primary school knowledge.
@SugarpillProd
Жыл бұрын
Meeeeean ;(
@frick584
Жыл бұрын
That's a primary school reply...
@SugarpillProd
Жыл бұрын
@@frick584 r/whoosh
And the most important fact , its easy and they cant play that much...
@SugarpillProd
Жыл бұрын
More like a misconception, rather than a fact.
@neptvnebeatschannel
Жыл бұрын
@@SugarpillProd it feels like all your videos are the same, and you release them with different clickbaity names/thumbnails. Same topics, over and over. It’s a shame considering the quality of your gear, skills and knowledge. I unsubscribed.
@SugarpillProd
Жыл бұрын
@@neptvnebeatschannel You'll be sorely missed.
@neptvnebeatschannel
Жыл бұрын
@@SugarpillProd and you’ll be sorry when your views drop. I love your sarcastic reply. An immature defense mechanism that confirms your feelings got hurt. 😂 Come on man, how old are you
Technically, octaves aren’t chords :) Just octaves.
the real reason is because 99% of punk band members don't practise and they don't know any theory lol so octaving is an easy harmony
it’s such a generic sound, how to make a punk song sound like pop
Boring
i just hear awful pop punk
a 5th is a perfect interval and can be used freely, an octave is even FREE-ER as it is basically a single note, an extremely transparent interval. it just makes sense that it'd be used because it so seemlessly goes over any chord because it's literally the least dense chord ever.
Super easy, sounds thick. The problem is it's super cliche' and boring now. Time to move on and learn new things.
Well when you can’t play guitar for shit….
Nofx sucks