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Why Every Punk Band Loves Octave Riffs

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  • @SugarpillProd
    @SugarpillProd Жыл бұрын

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  • @Thirteen31Music
    @Thirteen31Music Жыл бұрын

    Nofx are the masters of this. Linoleum is a perfect case study

  • @bigbirdmusic8199

    @bigbirdmusic8199

    Жыл бұрын

    Old offspring as well

  • @thewaywelive2775

    @thewaywelive2775

    Жыл бұрын

    Millencolin, Lagwagon, no fun at all I think most of the 90's skatepunk bands flirtet with this really

  • @guilherme-guedes

    @guilherme-guedes

    Жыл бұрын

    Blink as well... Not now, i miss you, feeling this, every time i look for you, and many bridges... Like in First date...

  • @inappropriatecontent2589
    @inappropriatecontent2589 Жыл бұрын

    I love how you show us WHY we love a certain style of music!

  • @MahoroAndou
    @MahoroAndou Жыл бұрын

    The Japanese band Asian Kung Fu Generation uses these a lot too. Absolutely love it.

  • @sound-sakura

    @sound-sakura

    Жыл бұрын

    Their song Rewrite used in Fullmetal Alchemist 2003 (which I think is awesome, frankly) comes to mind for me.

  • @phewiss3066

    @phewiss3066

    Жыл бұрын

    thats one hell of a band name lol

  • @PunkMarioBros
    @PunkMarioBros11 ай бұрын

    I love when bands use octave riffs, my favourite is probably the chorus to Welcome to the Black Parade as it is almost the same notes as the vocal melody

  • @Marknumskull
    @Marknumskull Жыл бұрын

    I love a good octave chord, I use them everywhere!

  • @creamyanddreamy4017
    @creamyanddreamy4017 Жыл бұрын

    My favorite use of octave chords is in "Demon of the Fall" by Opeth.

  • @Washu1337
    @Washu1337 Жыл бұрын

    I still remember the first time me and my friend played ‘Duckpond’ on two guitars, usually I would only play on my own with just the rhythm. It blew our fucking minds.

  • @ashsimpson8700
    @ashsimpson87003 ай бұрын

    Neck deep uses these for leads often. Can make some cool counter melodies

  • @justinx590
    @justinx590 Жыл бұрын

    So many of the songs I write have these chords in them and I never knew that they were called octave chords. Neat.

  • @johnmarston4315
    @johnmarston4315 Жыл бұрын

    On the more metal slide slipknot likes to use a lot of octave riffs especially in their earlier years

  • @mdkotler
    @mdkotler10 ай бұрын

    Love that you used Choking Victim for an example.

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    10 ай бұрын

    They're one of my favourites for sure!

  • @jonathangodbout9778
    @jonathangodbout9778 Жыл бұрын

    Ah, I somehow did not know they had a name. An octave with a bass progression is my definition of pop punk rock vibe.

  • @harrisontownsend910
    @harrisontownsend910 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you on the tips. I already knew how to play octaves but I didn't know how to use them, so thank you.

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    Жыл бұрын

    Sure man, I'm glad it helped!

  • @macblink
    @macblink8 ай бұрын

    Been using that dual-cord sound for many years.. never knew how was it called 😅

  • @skaldlouiscyphre2453
    @skaldlouiscyphre2453 Жыл бұрын

    A trick I figured out ages ago, split your chords between two guitars.

  • @allyemeraart

    @allyemeraart

    Жыл бұрын

    one guitarist plays 5ths, one guitar plays 3rds and 4ths and BOOM you literally sound so much cooler than power chords.

  • @Pointblankmos
    @Pointblankmos Жыл бұрын

    underrated channel

  • @rafaelericson
    @rafaelericson Жыл бұрын

    bruv! thanks for this vid, so simple yet so powerful !!

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it helped!

  • @kilercrab3213
    @kilercrab3213 Жыл бұрын

    I'm a simple man, I hear no use for a name, I like it

  • @fleetingchaos
    @fleetingchaos Жыл бұрын

    I love octave riffs!

  • @denioktora
    @denioktora Жыл бұрын

    Tom Delonge applied this Alien Exist and Please Take Me Home on blink record.

  • @SNCKPCK
    @SNCKPCK Жыл бұрын

    actually really cool: ) thank you for teaching!

  • @pauldebbarma5920
    @pauldebbarma5920 Жыл бұрын

    Octaves are a must-be in pop punks. I'm not okayyyyyyyyyyyyyy

  • @AnotherAzh

    @AnotherAzh

    Жыл бұрын

    you wear me oooouuuuuuut

  • @Breadrc
    @Breadrc Жыл бұрын

    I fkn love octave riffs!

  • @beanlegume9965
    @beanlegume9965 Жыл бұрын

    My favorite example would be Falling Apart by Lagwagon

  • @captain_efurd4502
    @captain_efurd4502 Жыл бұрын

    The Smashing Pumpkins also use these quite a bit

  • @aidanwilliams1374
    @aidanwilliams1374 Жыл бұрын

    Does anyone know the name of that no use for a name song from the live video PLEASE lol.

  • @MusclesHockeymask
    @MusclesHockeymask Жыл бұрын

    I love the tune for that one song by that one vegan punk band but I actually think it's too fast. It could be slowed down to be heavier and personally I'd take the octave chords out entirely. I re-wrote it to have the first three chords, the last one with augmented suspensions, then for the descending final chords I have probably the first chord and then end with a bunch of notes until it resolves on F. You can probably guess the notes I play but I have to figure out the right speed to play it so that it's heavy enough.

  • @nothingtoseehere9515
    @nothingtoseehere9515 Жыл бұрын

    What's the name of the song at 0:50?

  • @actuallynotsteve
    @actuallynotsteve Жыл бұрын

    Shhh you're giving away all the secrets

  • @incelthirdworld9858
    @incelthirdworld9858 Жыл бұрын

    the best octave playing i head was by WES MONTGOMERY

  • @mattfritz8806
    @mattfritz8806 Жыл бұрын

    Do you have any videos about tracking acoustic guitars?

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    Жыл бұрын

    I've made one that will be uploaded soon. What exactly did you want to know about tracking them?

  • @mattfritz8806

    @mattfritz8806

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SugarpillProd I guess everything! How to get a fatter sound from them. Vocals too:D

  • @mastod0n1
    @mastod0n1 Жыл бұрын

    Stop giving away all these secrets! Lol. I literally just wrote a song last night that has a prominent octave chord lead. My music would be slightly less impressive to people if they knew how easy it is to get the sound I do. At the same time I'd love to hear the results of people taking your tips and writing original music.

  • @kutsumiru

    @kutsumiru

    Жыл бұрын

    I hate to tell you friend octave chords are no secret

  • @mastod0n1

    @mastod0n1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kutsumiru I know but a lot of people that I know don't know. Most of the songs I write are good but not anything special. But the mixing and layering tricks that Sugarpill shows off are the things that make people think my songs sound "professional."

  • @David_Downs

    @David_Downs

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mastod0n1 fascinating.

  • @grantsch1861

    @grantsch1861

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mastod0n1 riiight

  • @dudebro7698
    @dudebro7698 Жыл бұрын

    Sounds like some kid got into my cd collection again

  • @theinterpersonalskillscoac6032
    @theinterpersonalskillscoac6032 Жыл бұрын

    Let’s not forget ‘Smile’ by Bigwig

  • @theinterpersonalskillscoac6032

    @theinterpersonalskillscoac6032

    Жыл бұрын

    And if you haven’t heard it, look it up, you won’t be disappointed.

  • @Typical.Anomaly
    @Typical.Anomaly Жыл бұрын

    Guitar World magazine... 1996 maybe? The guitar solo on "My Friends" by RHCP was the first time I met "octave chords" and have been a huge fan since. The omission of the fifth makes it so when you get to the diminished chord (the bVII* in major or the II* in minor) it still fits in a diatonic progression. Love to use split chords too- ex.: C#m7 = X4X45X -because they still have the third and the seventh while being easier to move around the fretboard. ✌💗🤘

  • @simonmarcoux5879
    @simonmarcoux5879 Жыл бұрын

    someone know what is the song from NUFAN?

  • @Hellofreak
    @Hellofreak Жыл бұрын

    love the Shai Hulud intro!!!!!

  • @fernandoy.narciso
    @fernandoy.narciso Жыл бұрын

    you should make a chords variation bible for us

  • @steves1588
    @steves1588 Жыл бұрын

    clique riff...find your own sound....unless you like sounding like top 40..ooops I meant hardcore punk.

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah because top 40 is full of this type of sound 😂

  • @kintaro_f
    @kintaro_f Жыл бұрын

    possessions never meant anything to me, I'm not crazy. :) it's the muted string in the middle that leaves room for the pain. ;)

  • @diegods9897
    @diegods9897 Жыл бұрын

    I can't understand clearly, for example in Chasing rainbows, the chords are played on the same frets. Could you explain me? Thanks for your channel and what you do!!

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    Жыл бұрын

    In Chasing Rainbows, they're playing two different octaves parts at the start. The left guitar is just playing octaves of each root note, and the right guitar alternates between octaves for the 3rd & 5th of those same root notes. For instance, when the left guitar plays a C octave, the right guitar plays an E octave, which is the 3rd of the C. Hope that helps!

  • @DannyDeVitois79
    @DannyDeVitois79 Жыл бұрын

    Fermented and Flailing

  • @Kyrelel
    @Kyrelel Жыл бұрын

    Jazz slowly opens one eye ... and closes it again

  • @Walrus286
    @Walrus286 Жыл бұрын

    Built to Spill - end of the song Else

  • @melrandall2286
    @melrandall2286 Жыл бұрын

    But where did it all start ? In rock music it was Hendrix with ‘Third Rock from the Sun’ . Then Brian Baker brought it to hardcore punk with Dag Nasty in the late 80s… listen to ‘Values Here’ and most songs off ‘can I say’ . This is where pop punk got their sound.

  • @HD_Heresy
    @HD_Heresy Жыл бұрын

    I saw NUFAN 6 months before Tony died 🥺

  • @IceBreakBottle
    @IceBreakBottle Жыл бұрын

    You should put a seymour duncan invader humbucker in that tele for the neck pickup ;)

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    Жыл бұрын

    I think that might be a bit overkill, haha.

  • @IceBreakBottle

    @IceBreakBottle

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SugarpillProd Not at all.. you would get a better "pop-punk" tone. Or at least mod it to a four switch so you can use your pickups in series mode.

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    Жыл бұрын

    @@IceBreakBottle Yeah, maybe. I don't really like the sound of invaders, regardless.

  • @cygnustsp
    @cygnustsp Жыл бұрын

    Billy Corgan / Jimi Hendrix

  • @ANDYWOUNDSABRXS
    @ANDYWOUNDSABRXS Жыл бұрын

    Swedish death metal, D-Beat, pretty much anything with melody uses them.

  • @mtveltri
    @mtveltri Жыл бұрын

    What's the first song you play in the video? I'm drawing a blank on the name right now

  • @mtveltri

    @mtveltri

    Жыл бұрын

    It's Rise Against - Savior, just remembered

  • @flibbidyx2
    @flibbidyx2 Жыл бұрын

    RIP Tony Sly

  • @Ottophil
    @Ottophil Жыл бұрын

    I like how you hide the guitar brand in shame

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    Жыл бұрын

    As if I'd even care about guitar brands 😂

  • @David_Downs
    @David_Downs Жыл бұрын

    I would call this a Dyad, and not a chord :P

  • @CsRj2854
    @CsRj2854 Жыл бұрын

    what's the song playing at 0:50

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    Жыл бұрын

    Life Size Mirror by NUFAN.

  • @peterpants9783
    @peterpants9783 Жыл бұрын

    Stevie Ray Vaughn loves this trick he’s blues

  • @atvena
    @atvena Жыл бұрын

    Lit - my own worst enemy

  • @LordHaliax
    @LordHaliax Жыл бұрын

    because

  • @SoilentGr33n
    @SoilentGr33n Жыл бұрын

    Oh yeah that's what those are called. I use those all the time with stupidly ridiculous fuzz when I doom too.

  • @anandarazzaqy
    @anandarazzaqy Жыл бұрын

    How to make song like better luck next time, or maybe a synth pop punk video

  • @JohnSmith-kt3yy
    @JohnSmith-kt3yy Жыл бұрын

    What are the songs at the beginning? They sound so familiar.

  • @kcChicken123
    @kcChicken123 Жыл бұрын

    How good is Millencolin

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    Жыл бұрын

    One of my favourites for sure!

  • @kcChicken123
    @kcChicken123 Жыл бұрын

    Dave Navarro uses this in the solo in My Friends by RHCP

  • @yurigoncalves9861

    @yurigoncalves9861

    Жыл бұрын

    And Warped, i think

  • @andyj8814
    @andyj8814 Жыл бұрын

    Can you help with don't call me white riff?

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    Жыл бұрын

    What bit are you struggling with?

  • @andyj8814

    @andyj8814

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SugarpillProd the other guitar part if that makes sense, can't find the chords just doesn't sound right

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    Жыл бұрын

    @@andyj8814 I haven't played it in awhile, but I believe it's mostly power chords, and then the little riffy bit is just using a mix of 5ths, accidentals and 6ths. I think that riffy bit is an B/D#, E5, B/D#, to a F#6. As long as you've got those down, and the strumming pattern - which is the usual skate punk pattern, just with a bunch of stops & starts - then it shouldn't be too tricky to learn.

  • @andyj8814

    @andyj8814

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SugarpillProd thanks mate

  • @emeraldcelestial1058
    @emeraldcelestial1058 Жыл бұрын

    because its easy to do

  • @DutchChattahoochee
    @DutchChattahoochee Жыл бұрын

    was that a choking victim riff you threw in there? sounded like 500 channels. haha

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    Жыл бұрын

    Good ear 👍

  • @DutchChattahoochee

    @DutchChattahoochee

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SugarpillProd thanks! yes, a fan of that band and that song in particular. like many people, I've listened to it a million times. lol like, IT SOUNDS FAMILIAR! lol great video!

  • @betosxe138
    @betosxe138 Жыл бұрын

    Chocking victim riff

  • @yurigoncalves9861
    @yurigoncalves9861 Жыл бұрын

    Dead Fish

  • @gregmartin1757
    @gregmartin1757 Жыл бұрын

    Punk guitar is kinda a misnomer since hardly anyone in punk bands can actually play guitar. it's all ridiculously inept amatuer beginning lever playing. And i don't think these are actually chords since they are simply 1 note + octave. You need more than 1 note to form a chord. These are simply octaves.

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    Жыл бұрын

    You obviously haven't heard many punk bands, if you think everything is simple. Try learning some Strung Out or Propagandhi, and you'll see this isn't the case.

  • @cbtrippin
    @cbtrippin Жыл бұрын

    blink-182 was good with this

  • @BrickUnit
    @BrickUnit Жыл бұрын

    First song that came to mind was sum 41s walking disaster

  • @urpaps
    @urpaps Жыл бұрын

    I need a fuxkin electric I am bored of acoustic now

  • @brycesipes
    @brycesipes Жыл бұрын

    500 channels 👻

  • @whome77
    @whome77 Жыл бұрын

    500 Channels

  • @thomasj.9686
    @thomasj.9686 Жыл бұрын

    I miss the times when Tom actually wrote riffs and didn't rely heavily on octave riffs for guitar "parts". Dude can't even be bothered to move the chord around in some songs.

  • @gabriellevesque-lessard5052

    @gabriellevesque-lessard5052

    Жыл бұрын

    We are far far far away from the Buddha/Cheshire cat era ☹️☹️

  • @thomasj.9686

    @thomasj.9686

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gabriellevesque-lessard5052 he doesn't even have to go back to that. I'd be happy enough if he didn't sit on A5 for a whole verse while Mark's bass and the synth pads dictated the chord changes.

  • @gabriellevesque-lessard5052

    @gabriellevesque-lessard5052

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thomasj.9686 Yup he over use the A5 lol... mark too

  • @gabriellevesque-lessard5052

    @gabriellevesque-lessard5052

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thomasj.9686 The Buddha era was great for outstanding guitar riffs!!!

  • @danoliver3053

    @danoliver3053

    Жыл бұрын

    These comments are so cringe. I used to love earlier Blink albums and can still appreciate them, but the first couple of albums are in no way their peak (as with most bands), and there's plenty of skilled and creative guitar playing in later albums all the way up TOYPAJ album. Also, Tom has used octaves in his playing throughout the whole of Blink's discography, so I don't know what you're all complaining about.

  • @thomasdupont7186
    @thomasdupont7186 Жыл бұрын

    that's not punk, this is like more subgenera like emo, melodic hardcore etc...

  • @cabeloDoPardal2
    @cabeloDoPardal2 Жыл бұрын

    Tom Petty - American girl (that at its best)

  • @wafflemanofficial3130
    @wafflemanofficial3130 Жыл бұрын

    Nu metal in a nutshell

  • @k.d2430
    @k.d2430 Жыл бұрын

    This primary school knowledge.

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    Жыл бұрын

    Meeeeean ;(

  • @frick584

    @frick584

    Жыл бұрын

    That's a primary school reply...

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    Жыл бұрын

    @@frick584 r/whoosh

  • @marcopelaezfernandez4573
    @marcopelaezfernandez4573 Жыл бұрын

    And the most important fact , its easy and they cant play that much...

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    Жыл бұрын

    More like a misconception, rather than a fact.

  • @neptvnebeatschannel

    @neptvnebeatschannel

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SugarpillProd it feels like all your videos are the same, and you release them with different clickbaity names/thumbnails. Same topics, over and over. It’s a shame considering the quality of your gear, skills and knowledge. I unsubscribed.

  • @SugarpillProd

    @SugarpillProd

    Жыл бұрын

    @@neptvnebeatschannel You'll be sorely missed.

  • @neptvnebeatschannel

    @neptvnebeatschannel

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SugarpillProd and you’ll be sorry when your views drop. I love your sarcastic reply. An immature defense mechanism that confirms your feelings got hurt. 😂 Come on man, how old are you

  • @robomalo
    @robomalo Жыл бұрын

    Technically, octaves aren’t chords :) Just octaves.

  • @chaosclg
    @chaosclg Жыл бұрын

    the real reason is because 99% of punk band members don't practise and they don't know any theory lol so octaving is an easy harmony

  • @kenopsia9013
    @kenopsia9013 Жыл бұрын

    it’s such a generic sound, how to make a punk song sound like pop

  • @itsdoomedjack9774
    @itsdoomedjack9774 Жыл бұрын

    Boring

  • @hadrosaurus
    @hadrosaurus Жыл бұрын

    i just hear awful pop punk

  • @allyemeraart
    @allyemeraart Жыл бұрын

    a 5th is a perfect interval and can be used freely, an octave is even FREE-ER as it is basically a single note, an extremely transparent interval. it just makes sense that it'd be used because it so seemlessly goes over any chord because it's literally the least dense chord ever.

  • @VVVY777
    @VVVY777 Жыл бұрын

    Super easy, sounds thick. The problem is it's super cliche' and boring now. Time to move on and learn new things.

  • @mr.smithgnrsmith7808
    @mr.smithgnrsmith7808 Жыл бұрын

    Well when you can’t play guitar for shit….

  • @rocker4life318
    @rocker4life318 Жыл бұрын

    Nofx sucks