“As if anyone has the patience to do 329 genocides” Undertale speed runners:

@emirturkmen4524

Ай бұрын

Shayy was secretly fanon Chara all along

@brainfreezzzze6900

Ай бұрын

​@@emirturkmen4524 were so jover

@qtcquestionbloc4440

Ай бұрын

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

@user-cq2tq4mi4r

Ай бұрын

true -but they have been doing less

@user-cq2tq4mi4r

Ай бұрын

found it 2:09

Dusttale is just those "Human, I remember you're genocides" memes but taken seriously

@Not-Kirbo2

Ай бұрын

Human, I remember you're *dating my brother*

@averageyoutubehandle497

Ай бұрын

It would be good if it was thought out.

@averageyoutubehandle497

Ай бұрын

Wtf my phone be traveling through time and space i just replied and it showed me a reply from 2 minutes ago

@Royalbloxer

Ай бұрын

Im pretty sure its the first tho

@Lunar931

Ай бұрын

​@@Not-Kirbo2human... I remember you're google history search

the only reason i like Dusttale is because of the endless potential it gives for interpretation. The concept of being stuck in an endless loop and remembering and experiencing everything, turning all of your memories of your friends and family suddenly not feel real making it so you may do anything extreme to escape the suffering is quite the interesting concept. But dusttale focuses on one thing, and one thing only: - "we like this character and we want to see him kill people."

@spineratack8470

Ай бұрын

That concept could work on flowey ngl

@notnintendo

Ай бұрын

@@spineratack8470 i really doubt flowey would even be surprised that the player would do such a thing, after all, he's done the same thing before

@DarkLordsServant

Ай бұрын

​@@notnintendoPerhaps having a little genocide contest against you?

@goommooster7572

Ай бұрын

@@DarkLordsServantthis is such a funny mental image welcome to the genocide race!!!! whoever can kill the most monsters gets like bragging rights next run i guess

@notnintendo

Ай бұрын

@@DarkLordsServant that actually would be a really fun fangame idea, how has no one thought of that?

4:37 I beg to differ. When one resets, they reset to back when they first got the power, as shown with both Flowey and Frisk. So if Sans (hypothetically) got enough DT and resetted, he'd be stuck in a state AFTER he killed everyone. Which is even worse than just the human coming back.

@PinanoTheGuy

Ай бұрын

True

@jackwilliams8399

Ай бұрын

So did frisk not have determination before entering the underground or is the barrier insulated from the determination of the humans outside?

@KrisCrossssss

Ай бұрын

@@jackwilliams8399 all humans have determination, the barrier completely separates the human world and the underground

@You-are-definitely-right-but

Ай бұрын

@@KrisCrossssssChara’s spirit was also with them (based on the narrator’s familiarity with New Home, The Locket, and them saying “it’s me, [name chosen at the start].” when interracting with a mirror on a Genocide note), which might’ve increased their determination in a ‘two heads are better than one’ kind of way

@KrisCrossssss

Ай бұрын

@@You-are-definitely-right-but trueee… Not only that but the Waterfall flashback too after undyne chases you

Listen to be fair this was like one of the first Dusttale games

2:17 That dusttale fangame is probably Shayy’s copy of UnderTale with how many genocide routes it has

If sans was smart he would just camp right outside the entrance to hotland and just throw the human into the lava with telekinisis everytime they show up.

@demiraykodal468

Ай бұрын

Or just fill the box with a bonezone.

@fedethegreat88

Ай бұрын

​@@demiraykodal468He can only do that with a betrayal kill, which can only be used when the opponent's guard is down

@spring6641

Ай бұрын

​@@fedethegreat88he doesnt really betray you sans clearly umply in ut that if you spare he will kill you so you can reset

@antunderexist692

Ай бұрын

Have you guys read CANON? for Example in canon insanity sans's lore, insanity literally blasts frisk's balls at snowdin. Those fangames actually nerfs the characters.

@spring6641

Ай бұрын

@@antunderexist692 maybe cause half the au are sans goes muder bruh now im invicible and one shit gors bruh

Why doesn’t sans just eat the human? Is he stupid?

@brad377

Ай бұрын

He doesn't think like horror sans

@romeokukita277

Ай бұрын

I mean, he's stupid, just not into vore

@notnintendo

Ай бұрын

this guy gets it

@gnlpsmff0808

Ай бұрын

​@@brad377and horror doesnt wanna eat humans

@Oleja2008

Ай бұрын

OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 🦇👱

Sans actually know what resets are, but he don't remember them, he is just aware of them

@firechargeogname

Ай бұрын

Really? It's been awhile since I've seen gameplay of undertale so I don't remember a whole lot

@AscendedEmperor

Ай бұрын

​@@firechargeogname he makes mention of your resets he doesn't nearly the amount of knowledge that Frisk, Chara, and Flowey have on resets but he has a good enough understanding of what they are what they do.

@firechargeogname

Ай бұрын

@@AscendedEmperor oh

@Zora-jr2lk

Ай бұрын

Just a question ¿Chara is not evil? I'm asking because the last thing I understand about the character was that a long time ago

@AscendedEmperor

Ай бұрын

​@@Zora-jr2lk No. Chara isn't evil ur the one who's evil (in game anyways) its basically like what we see in Deltarune you control Frisk and have them do all these horrible deeds and Chara is simply there along for the ride. Helping you out each step of the way unless you decide to turn against them.

Yeah. I honestly kinda hate Dusttale because a big part of me feels like it’s a MASSIVE spreader (not the only one or the biggest one, but still a big one) of fandom misconceptions. Such as Sans remembering resets, Evil Chara and Good Frisk, and the idea that Sand could do anymore than 1 damage to Toriel, since she wouldn’t have any LV.

@aol9936

Ай бұрын

I think the reason sans is able to kill toriel is because it was kind of a betrayal kill

@ERROR404_BEHIND_THE_SLAUGHTER

Ай бұрын

@@aol9936 he use the toy knife with 3 ATK, it still possible sans can dodge her fire attack, but I still don’t get it how he can kill the Fish

@UNDERFELL-Enthusiast

Ай бұрын

tbf he's gonna be dealing a lot more than just 1 damage, but i genuinely refuse to believe that toriel just rolled over and let sans kill her. (dusttale is so mid)

@kianlmcf1208

Ай бұрын

It seems that he was using the toy knife to kill her, it also could have had the same affect as when the player does a betrayal kill in undertale.

@nadezhdagalanova2386

Ай бұрын

It is i racist dustdust

You're a real one for this video Always thought Dusttale's entire premise was off-putting and very out of character, but I've seen nobody talk about it. I've always seen Sans more as the type to not provide the player with any new content (If they did remember the past events of routes) as you continue on and on. After all, the game's initial purpose in the Genocide route is to bore you and steer you out of it, is it not?

@levisiqueira745

Ай бұрын

Hello kat

@LightCats658

Ай бұрын

@@levisiqueira745 Hi

@levisiqueira745

Ай бұрын

@@LightCats658 ka's revertswap is peak

@GoodOuterdust69

Ай бұрын

The actual canon dusttale is better than this but yeah i kinda agree

I hate how Flowey is completely shafted in dusttale because I feel like he could be a really interesting addition to the story if done right. And considering sans doesn't seem to know flowey exists in regular undertale it doesn't make sense that flowey would get killed off that fast (he thinks that someone is playing tricks on papyrus with an echo flower rather than the actual truth.)

@Oleja2008

Ай бұрын

In canon dusttale Flowey is still alive despite anything. He's like uh hiding all the time lol, but I guess it could be what you want

@GoodOuterdust69

Ай бұрын

​@@basedguy.4229 sir you're talking about fanon dusttale (this horrible fangame), canon dust/murder sans can't even get into the ruins (although he can still get to lv 20 and can kill the human over and over)

@kevinjones432

Ай бұрын

Fanon canon is bullshit anyways dusttale hasnt had a good take until dustale the murderous comedy

@MinorLife10

Күн бұрын

If Flowey was careful and would do it properly, then yes, but Flowey admits Sans killed him a lot of times.

the flaws do make it bad, but this was many years ago and this sparked a whole bloodline of dust sanses i'm glad it got reworked although the concept is nice

i tried telling someone who only knows dusttale for this fangame (clearly) that murder sans can’t use other monsters’ attacks, as stated by *literally dusttale’s creator* and i got a long equivalent of “nuh uh”. anyway this game sucks raaargh

@NightmareArbuser

Ай бұрын

I did some research and found a question on Tumblr: "Canonically Murder! Sans can't use the magic of other monsters, but here comes my first question he could copy the bosses' magic more clearly, example: Asgore's trident serious made of bones, Undyne's spears would be bones only sharper, Mettaton's bombs would be bone blasts, etc. " And the creator's answer was: "Well, he could do that. But he doesn't have a reason for that."

@antunderexist692

Ай бұрын

​​@@NightmareArbuserTrue, as he could try copy other monsters magic with his own but its also makes sense as "why would he even try?" When he can already summon bones, blasters, blue soul manipulation and etc But papyrus does that (that orange sword made out of bones)

@funkymonkey7252

Ай бұрын

@@NightmareArbuser yes, that’s the exact post i was referring to lol

@Glitxh_Voiz

Ай бұрын

That's your opinion dude let people like the character how would you feel if someone shitted on your favorite au

@antunderexist692

Ай бұрын

@@Glitxh_Voiz becasue hes right? Canon Murder cant even use other monster attacks which stated by dusttale's own author.

Honestly, I think if someone made an actual canon Dusttale game it would be awesome, I think having the mechanic of sans changing his attack patterns every death is pretty cool, though it would be unfair as heck if it were canon, but would still make a cool game at least

@TWrongLeen

Ай бұрын

stretch's dusttale:

@tomvanhungnguoiban2423

Ай бұрын

uh...if there is an canon dusttale fan game,you cant even pass snowdin,canon dust sans (murder sans) strong enought to oneshot player,combined with changeing attack patterns every death,it will get same similar situation as lostbread renewed 👆🤓

@imdying69420

Ай бұрын

@@tomvanhungnguoiban2423 true In canon Dusttale, the human kinda tries to avoid encountering Murder Sans as much as possible, bc they knows they cant kill Sans unless they are strong enough, i think I might be wrong

@Sans_the_skeleton_real

Ай бұрын

* it ain’t gonna be unfair, he quite literally just murdered the hell out of everyone, he doesn’t care about fair game

@imdying69420

Ай бұрын

@@Sans_the_skeleton_real yes exactly The only thing matters to Murder Sans is the win against the human. He doesn’t care about how he wins Thats why he would change attack patterns everytime the human dies, set traps everywhere in the underground, or hide the equipment and food so the human cant find them, or ambush them anywhere if he can make a quick kill

I do agree that Dusttale was not that good and might be the reason that people think sans remembers resets but it was a blank slate that people could mold to how they want and believe it or not I think Dusttales being bad actually gave the people more of a reason to make it better and make their their own Dusttale games and aus and Dusttale being so barebones gave us the general idea to work off of and revamp so in essence Dusttale was a double edged sword it being bad made the game fall off but the idea of sans doing this was kinda unique even though yes it is stupid, was what made it popular and birthed so many games since it had so much potential sorry for the long rant just want to give my opinion on it since I kinda have a soft spot for Dusttale since it was actually the first au I found out about

@hananaltair3563

Ай бұрын

same!

The reason dusttale is like that bc the whole fangame is fanon.

@Magma-Idiot-2001

Ай бұрын

Exactly, the game doesn't even follow the comic that introduced Murder!Sans.

@firechargeogname

Ай бұрын

​@@Magma-Idiot-2001there's a comic?

@Magma-Idiot-2001

Ай бұрын

@@firechargeogname Yeah, 'Ask-Dusttale', or something along those lines, I haven't looked at it myself, but I know it's the origin of Murder!Sans.

@firechargeogname

Ай бұрын

@@Magma-Idiot-2001 oh

@Glitxh_Voiz

Ай бұрын

Bruh Dusttale wasn't even finished when it first came out people just randomly started saying stuff and making stuff so it's not the au fault

and in conclusion that is why stretch's dusttale is good

@Jesz56

Ай бұрын

ellens dusttale in question

@AnDeviGG

Ай бұрын

@@Jesz56Team Delusional’s basically

@TheFactualizer

Ай бұрын

TD!Dusttale on top

@egeparlak8004

Ай бұрын

Dustbelief Papyrus Rebirth is far better

@Jesz56

Ай бұрын

@@AnDeviGG ok nerd…

My own version of dusttale is flowery kills everyone to kill you because it’s kinda in character if he remembered all the times you killed him he wouldn’t support you anymore and want revenge

@XxAflredoxX

Ай бұрын

why would you swap sans for flowey when the AU is more focused on sans? Besides, flowey has already done genocide routes in UT and the idea is that the murder is a random monster, who has never done or had an idea to kill his own kind

@ClumsyRowlet-np8ii

Ай бұрын

​@@XxAflredoxXthat's the point, sans has never done something like this. It I'd really out of character Plus, no monster is capable of remembering you're genocides. Wanna know a character who is fine with genocide and can remember resets? Flowey.

@XxAflredoxX

Ай бұрын

@@ClumsyRowlet-np8ii It's a bit stupid the idea that flowey kills everyone , when it's shown from the beginning of the game that he can easily kill the player if Toriel hadn't saved him (although the same goes for sans)

@metal42

Ай бұрын

Flowey wouldn't remember genocide routes because it's a true reset

@thro0

Ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure there's a dusttale fangame in the works that is just like this, and even has an ost. Can't remember what it's called though.

heres some fun facts about this game from when i first played it: if you go up to the room with the fishing line in snowdin, theres a chance gaster somehow calls you without a phone and talks to you. if you keep doing genocide routes over and over: chara will talk to you in the throne room about how theyre starting to not remember everything either. theres also a secret quote unquote pacifist route where things change if you resist chara: attempting to spare whimsum, grabbing a golden flower in the ruins and placing it where muffet died not moving when sans kills papyrus, refusing to kill undyne. it all leads up to something special in the final corridor if ya wanna check it out and also: if you go upstairs in alphys lab, theres a key behind the poster that gives you true lab access, maybe you can check that out?

Canon chara: 🗿 Fanon chara: 🗿 People who use an overexaggerated version of chara: 🤓

@estrelaplatinada6506

Ай бұрын

uh you heavy wrong, fanon chara actually is: 🍑. ok jokes aside fanon chara its in this game

@estrelaplatinada6506

Ай бұрын

why? people already do that inside and outside

@Tmitric

Ай бұрын

Canon chara can be used to decipher the lore, understand the game, and make theories. Fanon chara is used to make comics, animations like Glitchtale, and AUs in general. They both have they're ups and downs, but when you say "OOHHH CHARA HAS I FINITE DAMAGE AND IS THE STRONGEST AND CAN ONE SHOT ANYTHING!!!!" those people are the bad ones.

The dusttale game is just a shabby recreation of the original murder sans

@GoodOuterdust69

Ай бұрын

Fr

fun fact: evan dusttale isn't canon! canon dusttale is made by a korean ask blog called "Ask-DustTale", with some semi-official novels by Calvateyla (one of Dusttale's creators). Canon Dusttale/Novels are actually really good and arguably one of the best written AUs I've seen! (tho obv sans killing doesn't make a TON of sense, but oh well) tl;dr: evan dusttale sucks, canon murder solos all dusttale takes

@freezeo1758

Ай бұрын

sans who kills people vs sans who kills people

@NamelessDragon21

Ай бұрын

I actually have a copy of the story translated in a Google doc it’s a bit confusing tho but pretty good

@justhorrorlol

Ай бұрын

@@NamelessDragon21 I mean yeah translation usually creates errors, however i love it so much

@lugycorn2933

Ай бұрын

​@@NamelessDragon21can you send me the google doc? Much appericared if you can!

@NamelessDragon21

Ай бұрын

@@lugycorn2933 I mean I can send the files from discord what’s your discord username

i must agree with every point you made in this video however evans dusttale was my first introduction to dusttale and murder sans wich is now one of my favorite AUs ik that it was bad but its kinda nostalgic ya know?

"That's not how that works, at all!" the AU

@GoodOuterdust69

Ай бұрын

That's true. Dusttale does not work like this

It’s kindof sad that undertale collapsed went on a hiatus the creator is currently developing a storyshift au

Heres a take on dusttale, you stop doing ERASES and do normal resets when you beat sans. Flowey is not happy. He pretty much goes back to his roots and kills evryone by controlling the most vulnerable monster, ruins is toriel, snowdin is sans, waterfall is monster kid(in this part Flowey has enough lv to heavy weight the monsters he controls) hotland/core is alphys(manipulating to use traps on monsters, killing them) and finally he uses six souls aswell as his lv to pretty much just win

@thisisausername9356

27 күн бұрын

THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN THINKING. FLOWEY IS RIGHT THERE, CAN REMEMBER RESETS AND UNLIKE SANS, IT'S PERFECTLY IN CHARACTER FOR HIM TO PULL THIS KIND OF THING

@ashatheweirdo

26 күн бұрын

@@thisisausername9356 and dust belief for this is simple, sans and Flowey get killed by papyrus, but Flowey is able to get one good hit to implement the idea, but not the control, and papyrus only kills the necessary kills

dude really people thinks first fan game is canon for many things but they doesnt even know murder exist before that fangame in askdusttale forum

It was one of the first Dusttale fan games ever to exist which made it good back in the day. Making any decent attack was a big achievement. The storytelling was definitely off, even though it was back in the day. The only thing I can predict for the argument of Chara getting stronger, is the fact Sans was unaware of this factor as he only remembered a chunk of his memories

@GoodOuterdust69

Ай бұрын

And yet the dusttale novel (which came out in 2016) is better than this

@Glitxh_Voiz

Ай бұрын

​@@GoodOuterdust69Dude first of all dusttale wasn't even finished when it first came out so there wasn't a canon fangame so how can you say stuff is canon and not canon

@Glitxh_Voiz

Ай бұрын

​ Plus the creator of Dusttale changed his name to Dust sans he used to be murders sans only meaning they are the same character idk why people keep being like they are separated characters

@GoodOuterdust69

Ай бұрын

@@Glitxh_Voiz people use dust for fanon while they use murder for canon

@Glitxh_Voiz

Ай бұрын

@@GoodOuterdust69 But still they are the same character why would the Creator make their names the same then if they wanted sans to be different

I mean it’s got good music, the game aged for sure but what can you expect from a really really old fangame

@basedguy.4229

Ай бұрын

The only dusttale original song is Red megalovania which at the time was fine but it aged very badly

@drysoup3017

Ай бұрын

​@@basedguy.4229Well despite that, it gave us something to play with am i right?

Can i just say that sans somehow losing after all that is the single stupidest thing. Like sans is lvl.19 or 20 and killed almost everyone and THATS WHAT WE GET?

and the pacifist dusttale ending?

@basedguy.4229

Ай бұрын

I though about mentioning it but I dont like the Chara bossfight and didnt think the pacifist ending was THAT emotional

* gotta say, I love that you’re ONLY criticizing specific fangames, and not just the entire concept, especially the part about sans not being able to remember resets. it would make much more sense if something triggered it, and he doesn’t just wake up and go “oh hey I died over 300 times.”

It’s such a shame too. Murder Sans is my favourite and dusttale is such a unique concept! The fan game doesn’t do it enough justice I’d love to see another one go so much more in depth

Just noticed how many ppl think Chara is completely innocent in the comments, like come on people, she did kill everyone in after genocide pacifist 😭🙏

I always thought when you reset you can only go back to when you got the power, so even if dust sans succeeded he’s stuck in an empty cave until seven more humans fall (assuming he can even live that long) because it’s implied the six other souls were destroyed/released

this dusttale fangames brings alot of nostalgia fr and now you know there's alot of dusttale takes

Tbh, even if dust sans ain't well written, to me he would be a fun character to play as in a roblox game and nothing else, also play dust sans simulator the remake it got a update please play it.

Undertale To Dust is a take by ItsDoku on Evan's Dusttale and Its basically trying to improve Evan's story. Thoughts on it?

Something i like aboug this fangame is the papyrus death, which is a fairly good recreation of a very old dusttald comic.

Buddy this fangame was made back when the "Chara is evil" theory was popular

@GoodOuterdust69

Ай бұрын

Canon dusttale is made from people that already knew that chara wasn't evil which is why the player is the villain (i warn you, if you tell me about this fangame then i'll have to bombard you with links of the ask dusttale blog which are canon to dusttale)

@sptflcrw8583

Ай бұрын

It's not a theory

@nightmoro6905

Ай бұрын

@@GoodOuterdust69 i like how this fangame have original songs

@GoodOuterdust69

Ай бұрын

@@nightmoro6905 actually, this game basically stole songs plus the one used for the last dust sans encounter isn't even made for dusttale

@nightmoro6905

Ай бұрын

@@GoodOuterdust69 that's wasn't what i was expecting

I hate how so many ppl think chara is evil and everything is charas fault. It‘s absurd

@GoodOuterdust69

Ай бұрын

I hate how the dusttale fangame misinformed all people and foreshadowed the actual dusttale canon. It's absurd

@borisod7220

Ай бұрын

I Do not think so. Let us hope that When Deltarune releases kris will change how ppl look at Chara.

@unluckybean2800

Ай бұрын

chara can be used as a reference for the player actions, representing the player to separate the meta-narrative with normal narrative, meaning that chara usually represents YOU, thats why we name them and we see that each "stat" in the game was chara, because it represents us and the only time we see chara face to face, is when there is nothing left worth playing in the game, there is nothing but us, the player, represented by chara

I agree with almost everything you said Another thing i don't really like of this game (and most dust aus) is that it feels way too empty as most of the game is just Undertale stuff but in a low quality engine

I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS, I totally agree with the opinion of this old fangame, what surprised me most is that you have good points, refreshing to see commentators on undertale fangames

I agree. tbh, I think dusttale would work alot better if sans didn't just remember everything randomly, it throws people off. I'd make it so that flowey (who CAN remember resets) manipulates sans, telling him about the timelines, thus making sans snap completely. Flowey has manipulated other monsters before, so why would he not do it now. I also think it would work better as a horror-style game that breaks the fourth wall, since sans is aware now. It would be creepy af to see this unhinged sans try to talk to us directly, rather than just spew out bs like 'uhhhh its human fault!! you kill brother!!!' I could yap more about my imaginary dusttale take but this comment is getting too long. Keep up the good work

@Bowser6495

Ай бұрын

Problem Flowey doesn't remember true resets and probably the world getting erashed

@thro0

Ай бұрын

@@Bowser6495It doesn't have to be genocide runs. It can be neutral runs and stuff like that, which have ended badly

@Bowser6495

Ай бұрын

@@thro0 I don't think he would care in the slightest

@thro0

Ай бұрын

@@Bowser6495 He would find it boring. That's why I say that he would manipulate sans, for his own wicked sense of 'fun'.

@Bowser6495

Ай бұрын

@@thro0 eh to each their own I guess

Canon sans kind of knows about resets. If you do genocide and kill papyrus and then go on a pacifist route and talk to sans before the town, he'll say this: "Here's a tip about fighting my brother. Do not."

@angryhal09

Ай бұрын

No i think its just if you kill papyrus, doesnt have to be the genocide route.

@user-en9dm8xc5y

Ай бұрын

@@angryhal09 oh mb I just accidentally got it on genocide

@funkymonkey7252

Ай бұрын

most monsters get some form of deja vu like sans does (e.g. toriel “having a feeling” you like cinnamon or butterscotch, papyrus feeling like you’re an old friend) i suppose sans just understands it more, since he’s one of the few monsters aware that you are even capable of saving, loading and resetting in the first place. doesn’t immediately mean he remembers resets ofc, he just understands what these hunches mean

and the sad part it's that i tought that this was one of the best undertale fangames a time, thankfully things changed

Whats the name of the song used in the part where you explain why it doesn’t make sense

Also I wish that dusttale explained why sans got the fire ability instead going 'YEET'

@GoodOuterdust69

Ай бұрын

I also wish that this fangame was more revolved around actual canon murder sans and not this wannabe called dust sans

if this game were to be made today and not 7 years ago i think the story and stuff would be way better

@GoodOuterdust69

Ай бұрын

And maybe it would be following canon dusttale

While I do agree with a lot of these points in the video, I do believe that Dusttale doesn't deserve half the harsh critisism it gets Its mainly down to it being a product of its time, being created in the VERY early days of the Undertale fandom where Chara was still known as just the "genocidal murder child" (which is another plotpoint in Killer!Sans/Something New but I don't see people dogging on that) and that Sans was just perfectly aware of any Reset. But that doesn't mean it doesn't deserve its critiques and I respect anyone who does or doesn't love this AU Great video all around!

the fangame is a relic of its time, and its *not* canon to Murder!sans to begin with, which is something ive noticed that the comments don't really address. *Canonically* most of murder!sans'es well, murders are based on him abusing a stat advantage or catching people off guard, hell in the novel his largest kills come from a betrayal kill.

dude why do your opinions become so inconsistent? bashing on the emotional sans games, shitting on the deserved lb renewed, then this? you're absolutely crazy...

@Xenodrad5301

Ай бұрын

He striking the fanon games down

@GoodOuterdust69

Ай бұрын

​@@Xenodrad5301 this particular one deserved it since it ruined many's perspectives on murder sans

@realPurpleOrb

Ай бұрын

@@Xenodrad5301 new megalo dropped

Ey man sorry to leave this to ya but people only make fangames for fun, and you can't just give bad hope to the developers, wouldn't you think of the goods and the bads if it gets cancelled? Not trying to change your opinion tho.

@GoodOuterdust69

Ай бұрын

The game was already finished 7 years ago lol

Ngl i never heard some criticize or review about an undertale before until i saw this in my recommendations and I’m actually glad cause my brain can finally start thinking again and rewind what i usually play thats undertale au related.

What's the song at the start of the video?

You should have mentioned Halo Dustbelief! Instead of gaster, Flowey kinda explains it to papyrus instead, which i feel is not the best but better than a character we know nothing about.

@basedguy.4229

Ай бұрын

I think thats probably the best way,Flowey is very good at manipoulating people and is already papyrus's "friend" so it would actually make somewhat sense

@TranAvia_Tranex

Ай бұрын

@@basedguy.4229 Exactly

@kaloz429mobile9

Ай бұрын

BeliefDust (deviant) aswell Basically papyrus saw human killed sans and flowey "teaching" him

Pretty proud of this ngl

@UJDpacifistsans

Ай бұрын

I disagree opinion handled without this character we wouldn't have murder time trio dustdust or some goofy memes

@6.9LITRE-W16FAN.IsveryKool

Ай бұрын

"stfu im on my kill streak"

@ERROR404_BEHIND_THE_SLAUGHTER

Ай бұрын

@@UJDpacifistsans nah we can replace dust with insanity at the start and just replace Powers with Psychopath on phase 2 And about DustDust, we’ll just find some artist to design InsanityInsanity, KillerKiller and HorrorHorror then

@gnlpsmff0808

Ай бұрын

Ask dusttale (canon) so much better than this game

@Murderer_Sans

Ай бұрын

This fangame totally fanon and that why it suck, and novel dusttale is literally the better one and its canon

By the way, do you know what is the name of the song at the start of the video? I remember that it was something of Killer Sans, but I can't remember the name.

Hey, I started working on a Dusttale take recently and I appreciate you saying that not ALL Dusttale takes are bad, just this one that you talk about

considering what dusttale has done to this community i wish it never happened

@GoodOuterdust69

Ай бұрын

You mean what this game has done? Because this fangame was never canon to dusttale (murder sans can't even gain others abilities)

@Looona_fan

Ай бұрын

But we would have never got racist dust-dust.

@PlacekGamePlay

Ай бұрын

@@Looona_fan fair

@Lancqster

16 күн бұрын

canon dusttale is actually good

@GoodOuterdust69

16 күн бұрын

@@Lancqster true

5:18 basically killing drives him insane and he suddenly lost enough braincells to not understand how2get free kills (also he goes insane so much that he literally just decides he wants to do a normal fight lol)

@GoodOuterdust69

Ай бұрын

And murder loses almost no braincells even after he kills everyone 20 times, W

And PLEASE everyone has to remember something: Evans Dusttale in NO WAY reflects Canon-Dusttale.

Hey what's the song you used in the beginning of the video?

@basedguy.4229

Ай бұрын

I really wish I wasnt here right now from Undertale nihilism

After learning about the story of the comic, I divided Dusttale's Sans into two version. The Fanon's Dust!Sans and the canon Murder!Sans. By the time Murder!Sans started killing Monsters (Starting from New Home to Snowdin), he had exhausted all possible ways to stop the human. This ultimately led him to begin by killing Asgore and figuring out how much LV he needed to kill the human. Eventually, when he reached Undyne, through unknown means, he acquired Determination (the red in his eyelights), which allowed him to kill the fish woman. The final Monster he actually killed before he was strong enough to break the human was Papyrus (which broke him). It's left a little ambiguous if Sans broke their will or if they come back (and since Murder can remember Resets, he can outright kill the player in hundreds or different ways. Dust!Sans is portrayed as an edgy psychopath most of the time, who can also steal the magic attacks of other Monsters because of [reason not given].

what was that drawing of toriel bro

what do u think of the pacifist/neutral ending of the game if you've seen it

Very good video, now what do you think is the best undertale au concept and why I would love to know.

I will say, at least Evan moved on to better and greater things after this fangame. He made an original title called Color Soul Memories that’s honestly pretty heartwarming and sweet and a nice beginning into independent game development. Since it is not perfect and of course as it is an actual paid game, expectations are generally higher, but he clearly had passion for that game and a vision. He’s come pretty far from his Dusttale roots and I’m glad he improved from it. And he even had long lasting support for Dusttale despite its age.

I don’t think many people appreciate that he states to papyrus that it’s almost over, and that one just hits me in the feels. He’s so desperate for another ending that he must exclaim, but ultimately fails.

we all needed this video, and also.. if my game releases i hope that you'll do a opinion video about it, it would be fun to see what people think about it. Gl with other vids based

You remember that old cursed woody meme? This is basically that but with undertale characters

We must remember this was one of the major catalyst for many others

Whats the bg song for the intro

Uhh there's the whole rebellion ending? Where you fight Chara and Sans with enough DT manages to delete Chara with Frisk sacrificing themself?

to be a bit fair there was no team involved in this game and evan probably didnt put much thought into undertale lore so it was just the absolute last of his priority that aside i would KILL for a dusttale fan game where you are sans seriously this is such a fun concept that like 2 people are actually considering i would also like to sacrifice a bit of logic in the game ending after chara dies (not happening logically) to make it much larger since i feel it would just leave everyone wanting more

What's that first song because it's SO GOOD

im just saying i think you fail to realize that its a Undertale AU meaning its not going to be the exact same as undertale for example sans cant remember resets in undertale but in DUSTTALE he did Edit: im stupid its an alternate timeline LOL my bad

Sans if he just fixed Papyrus' gate so that the bars weren't too wide anymore

Still don't understand how this person say Dust would melt from determination but literally characters from other au's use it like Last breath sans and Dusttrust this video is just to bully this au for no reason its an au for a reason not to be accurately to original undertale

@Glitxh_Voiz

Ай бұрын

Sorry if I sound mean about this it's just I don't understand why people hate this au it has such good potential

I get the vibe the premise was ‘hey I wanna make a cool sans fan game’ and then they worked backwards on the why and how

Whats the song at the being? It sounds good

Nice video, what's though the song that begins at 0:00 then vanishes (or rather, ends) around 1:50? I do not know how much attempts I made to find it. It would be very thankful from thy part if you told me the name! Also, great video.

0:24 с этого момента все слова слова которые он напишет можно пересказать под музыку! Прямо до момента где появляется 1 глава

The thing that annoys me so much is how that's not even Sans anymore, I can get how _if_ he managed to actually be able to remember resets it would shake him to his core, since even just knowing that everything he does could be reset made him stop caring about anything, but this is NOT how he would ever go about it I mean, you give a clever and observant guy like Sans the ability to know 100% for sure what you're going to do (Since you follow a set route), and the will to stop you no matter what, he'd come up with a better idea than "Kill everyone and if the Determination doesn't melt me overtake the human" Imagine if for example, he used this to speedrun the evacuation process (Going "Hey Paps, that kid has a concerning amount of dust on their clothes, and I know you want to trust them, but just to be safe, I think you should tell Undyne to evacuate everyone she can") or overall trying to sabotage your run to even further take the enjoyment out of the whole thing. And obviously taking the human souls into account you can go even further with this, assuming someone could successfully convince Asgore to use their power to stop it all It just feels out of character and like wasted potential

I saw a deviant post that has better dusttale take isnt focusing on sans

Is there any advice you have for making a good dust sans fangame? Since I’m making one and I wanna be able to make it good

@basedguy.4229

Ай бұрын

Mostly try to keep everyone in character and maintain sans's personality the same but always more distorted

5:02 I was about to agree that he could've use that determination extractor until I forgot to point out that it was shown in the original game that it doesn't work

i remember seeing something in underswap: thanatos that gave me the idea of dusttale sans just being regular sans but under charas influence, and that is an idea would be way better than the plot of dusttale pretty sure that’s the plot of killer sans, but i think his execution was straight ass

It's potential created many new AUs Especially my favorite: Dustbelief There is a fangame called Dustbelief Papyrus Rebirth where you play as Papyrus, killing everyone on your way in an unique fighting style rather than classic RPG based battle system of Undertale It even has some minigames like Papyrus sliding down a mountain or surfing at Waterfall (all are canon events btw) It is kinda short, but will be longer as other chapters release It has an epic Undyne The Undying boss as well, which is kinda difficult but still beatable Free on Gamejolt, recommend you to check out

@egeparlak8004

Ай бұрын

It also has fire soundtrack, for example fighting theme: Grim Reaper

@basedguy.4229

Ай бұрын

I mentioned it here and in my top 5 fangames I even put it at third place,its a really good fangame

i feel like it would make more sense for instead of sans killing everyone, flowey kills everyone and then fights you in the end. i think that would have been a better idea.

The Dusttale fangame made by Evan is not the actual Dusttale In the credits, it says it was inspired by a concept made by another person, and he just made the fangame in the way he thinks the story would go The Fangame being made in 2016 also clarifies some of the stereotypical stuff in the game I guess Edit: Nevermind, watched the entire video and now realised he knows about this 💀

@GoodOuterdust69

Ай бұрын

Dusttale is now a real person and you can't change my mind

Will you do a review on these to show a good dustale? Also ngl if sans could remember i think hed just teleport to where you fall and throw you out of the underground and baracade the entrances Which would be pretty funny

@GoodOuterdust69

Ай бұрын

The good dusttale: canon dusttale

yea tbh it makes sense. but at like 2:45 what song is that cus i have been trying to find it for like ever 3:03 oh yea sans does know what a reset is can only remeber normal resets not true resets

@gnlpsmff0808

Ай бұрын

Sans cant remember any reset canonically. Though every monster gets deja vuu from resets Edit: also the song is in the undertale nihilism ost and its called "i really dont want to be here right now" or something

what do you think about dusttale: last genocide? (this isn't another take of dusttale, it's more like dusttale's last breath)

@basedguy.4229

Ай бұрын

Its a great battle and very good sans fangame but sadly it suffers from the same terrible story as dusttale's

Halo's Dustbelief is one I think is actually good. I suggest you look into it! As for this, yeah. I'm a "Chara is unironically evil, lawful evil most likely" believer but would Chara even do it this many times? He's only summoned by your power and gives you the ability to true reset after the end of the world. If anything, Chara would very quickly get bored of something like 346 runs given he only gives you the option to reset if you wait ten minutes. He seems to just want the world dead and to let it stay dead.

Bro dusttale is one of my favorite aus. Took me a second to understand you were talking about a fan game, not the au itself 😭

I remember I was so proud that I've beaten dusttale after quitting for years kinda hurts my ego when I see people beating the game in first try lol

tbh, Dust Sans is like Sonic.exe but with an attempt to explain why he is suddenly bad

Sans does know the existence of resets, he just doesn’t know if you reset or not he can only go off your facial expressions I mean his whole fight was him basically trying to make you feel bad for resetting and all that stuff I’m pretty sure