Critically, we know from season 6 of the Clone Wars that Artoo had been to Dagobah with Yoda, so when Obi Wan appears to Luke in ESB to tell him "you must go to the Dagobah system", R2D2 is able to get him there because his memory wasn't wiped after the fall of the republic. It's unlikely that any other nav computer would have been able to locate it.

@ninjanoodle2674

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for saying this. After learning about Count Dooku deleting Dagobah from navigation records, I was wondering how they knew where Dagobah even was located in Empire Strike Back.

@OrionPak

Жыл бұрын

Was wondering that also, forgot r2 been there before

@stephenkyburz6529

Жыл бұрын

This is where Dave Filoni's genius shines.

@randomrazr

Жыл бұрын

could jedi survivors have been saved iif they headed to dagaboh?

@J1995M

Жыл бұрын

@@randomrazr only if they were strong enough to not go crazy living next to the dark side cave, which most people probly wouldnt have been

I can’t imagine Dooku being able to live a hermits life. He was too accustomed to the finer things.

@bhgraf08

Жыл бұрын

I agree. He wouldn’t be able to pull it off

@TJDious

Жыл бұрын

He might have used it as a less permanent hiding place though.

@theperfectbotsteve4916

Жыл бұрын

to be fair with the avaliable technology he could probably bring some buildings with him and live there that way

@kingmasterlord

Жыл бұрын

you don't think he could furnish a cave with the finest luxury goods in the galaxy? all it takes is wall hangings and you could be indoors anywhere, nice stone floors, vaulted ceilings. that's pretty doable. remember the cave steeped in the Dark Side is why Yoda could hide there. if I was Dooku that's exactly where I'd go.

@richardlee5084

Жыл бұрын

He could have the finest arrangements created by servant droids.

I love the idea of Starkiller, a guy so powerful in the force he can literally just disintegrate you, seeing Yoda on Dagobahand just being like, "NOPE!" jumps back in his ship and goes. 😂

@thetruebatman4632

Жыл бұрын

To be fair Yoda is creepy as hell lol, especially if you first saw Warwick Davis’s Leprechaun before being introduced to Star Wars.

@Creator_Veeto_PAEACP

Жыл бұрын

Why i love legends canon. Yoda is a monster to sith and jedi alike

@129das

Жыл бұрын

Starkiller was powerful but unstable he did not have well control of it on ether side.

@Force-Multiplier

5 ай бұрын

its just a fear effect not that Yoda is actually capable of matching Starkiller Yoda struggled with a little ship in Clone Wars and then even died after doing it again to help Luke Starkiller took down a star destroyer Yoda has nothing even close to being close to that

@MetaSynForYourSoul

5 ай бұрын

@Force-Multiplier Wut is this cap?! Yoda made 2 Star Destroyers crash into each other AFTER battling Sidious. And he didn't die because he lifted the x wing, he died cuz he was 900, also he had been practicing the force ghost thing for a long time.

I think the deletion of Dagobah was coincidental for Dooku. I have a tough time believing Dooku would have exiled himself in a swamp area to eat frogs and live in a cave. Sounds like paradise for someone of Yoda’s species but not a human/vampire from Serrano.

@JesusFriedChrist

Жыл бұрын

People do whatever it takes to survive. Even Dooku

@isaacsantana6560

Жыл бұрын

Only thing that matters is king plagues coming Luke Skywalker grandfather coming kylo ren grandfather coming

@theyreoutthere.huntinggear

Жыл бұрын

I always thought the planet he was from sounded spicy. Like the pepper 😂

@bizmasterTheSlav

Жыл бұрын

Vampire? There are no vampires in Star Wars and Dooku is not a vampire. He's just an elderly human who's pale because his status doesn't force him to walk under the sun a lot, rather, dwell in his grand palace. Also, yeah, imagine how bad would that feel. Being exiled from your own palace to some swamp to eat frogs. But I guess it's okay for Yoda, his species seems to enjoy eating frogs.

@joshdeaktor5827

Жыл бұрын

@@bizmasterTheSlav look up “Tales from Vaders Castle” graphic novels. It is strongly suggested that Dooku becomes “vampire like” in that storyline. It was also partly an homage to Christopher Lee playing Dracula in a previous role.

I think he wanted to hide the Dark side planets so he and Sidious could learn from these places and use the dark side powers that followed from them for their own goals and powers.

@Wally-pu2hh

Жыл бұрын

Ffuhh Sidious. All hail Doookoo

@InternetOpinion

Жыл бұрын

I like this theory a lot.

@TheAussief1

Жыл бұрын

Or just to hide them from Sidious.

@isaacsantana6560

Жыл бұрын

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@tHEHEAd1138

Жыл бұрын

​@@isaacsantana6560 Dude, did you just have a stroke?

Dooku could forsee the fall of the republic, so i think it's safe to assume that he wanted to protect his old master. Maybe somewhere deep inside younger Dooku, he wanted Yoda to live and not completely eradicate the Jedi. So he knew that only Yoda would know where Degobah was, and guessed that only Yoda would know to hide there. And by deleting it in the archive, he was pre-emptively protecting Yoda and keeping the Jedi order alive. On purpose.

@Londubh

Жыл бұрын

It's also arguablethat Dooku didn't intend to betray the Jedi so much as the republic

@marnixbark66

Жыл бұрын

Dooku never said to wanting to kill jedi or the order what the siths objective has been since dark bane 1000 years bedore. But he wanted all corruption in de republic to be gone. Senate and jedi order. In the scene where obi one is captured on geonosis Dooku shows sad and strong feellings to qui gon which shows his empathy and emotion. Hes visably sad, which no sith has without being conflicted. Which dooku was not at all.

@marnixbark66

Жыл бұрын

I think its a stretch to say he wanted to protect yoda when deleting the archive files as it was done long before the fall of the republic. But Dooku never wanted to kill jedi or the order

@missourimongoose8858

Жыл бұрын

He definitely owed Yoda one for making him his apprentice against the Jedi orders rules

I honestly think it's a combination of all the suggested theories. Some of the worlds other than Kamino were likely also by the order of Sideous, but Dooku was a very intelligent man in his own right and likely had his own agendas, some of which were to help his master, some to escape him, and some to cover his tracks

Dooku is a WAY more complex character than whats given on screen. This is wild. Thank you for all the information its honestly mind blowing and helps me to gain unnoticed respect for the character.

@voltrono4166

Жыл бұрын

well, all of the characters are more complex than what we see on screen... especially the 3 major prequels. And especially Anakin... they didn't really show much of Anakin's hourney to the dark side in the first two sequels nor in Clone Wars.

Maybe there's a more scientific reason he deleted so many planets. Recall that the method Obi-Wan used to pinpoint the spot Camino OUGHT to be was by using the gravitational influence of other celestial bodies in the system. Deleting planets that might complete the puzzle would help conceal the real targets.

@bizmasterTheSlav

Жыл бұрын

Good point.

@bryanleblanc5648

Жыл бұрын

tbh it's ridiculous on so many levels that a person could delete the knowledge of many planet systems without evidence, so it doesn't matter what headcannon you want to believe. What, the Jedi archives are the galaxy's Wikipedia on all planetary maps? No one who had been to those systems noticed this in the 20+ years before the fall of the Republic? No permissions required to delete them, no archive history, no system admins noticing? No one mapping new star systems to notice? No massive casualties resulting from hyperdrives blasting through these places in space that are supposed to be empty? No hungry corporations taking advantage of these unutilized planets not on the official maps? No one in who had been to these 37 systems in living memory going to the library and being confused? No books or posters or other non-electronic evidence of these missing planets and systems? Kenobi figured it out in a day after hearing a strange name and talking to a friend, but no one else ever did? The list goes on.

@DKNguyen3.1415

Ай бұрын

"Just look for the house next to the house with no numbers."

If the majority of the worlds deleted by Dooku were ancient Sith strongholds or had a strong Dark Side connection, then maybe in addition to hiding his main target (Kamino), Dooku was also trying to hide Dark Side knowledge from Sidious that he planned to acquire and possibly use against Sidious at some point.

@TheCrunchbite

7 ай бұрын

But he deleted them when he was still a Jedi…

@jernaugurgeh8110

4 ай бұрын

​@@TheCrunchbite But was he really. He had perhaps already turned dark......,,,l

Dooku wasn't fully evil. He just wanted dark side power to further his own cause. He has a Jedi back up plan

For those saying Dooku couldn't live on Dagobah due to his refinement, recall he was a Jedi Master. Privation and hardship are old hat for him. Besides, it only takes a small ship full of nice things to make things cozy.

@nicholashodges201

Жыл бұрын

That and he was literally abandoned on a mountain to die when he first manifested force ability as an infant. He didn't get a taste for affluence until after he left the order

@nicholashodges201

Жыл бұрын

Also the very real risk of a lightsaber suppository is a *very* strong incentive

@jt5765

Жыл бұрын

Jedi don't suffer any Privation from what we are shown on screen. Ok they certainly aren't wasteful or gluttonous but it's not like they have to go without the things they need.

@voltrono4166

Жыл бұрын

it would be tough to live on Dagobah. No Starbucks. ha ha

@crownprincesebastianjohano7069

Жыл бұрын

@@nicholashodges201 Very good point. He was always stylish, but that doesn't require that much money. Moreover, in "Dooku: Jedi Lost," Ventress muses on Dooku's palace and his yacht and notes that despite both being stuffed to the gills with luxury and priceless antiques, that Dooku cared for none of it, but, rather, he had them because it was expected of him as Count of Serenno. She notes Dooku actually lived very simply in his private chambers, which were rather spartan, and his only vice was good wine.

I think they had a multitude of reasons for erasure. To hide palpatine's plot, to have various locations to use for exile, and possibly locations that might contain ancient dark side secrets like sith holocrons that he could use to gain an upper hand against palpatine.

@michaelmurphy2112

Жыл бұрын

This is the theory I lean toward as well. I'm sure he realized at some point he'd have to defeat Palpatine to increase his own power, so he hid the various systems so he could gain more power in secret. The added bonus was a place to hide, just in case the inevitable happened before he was ready for it. As far as not being able to live on Degobah, his plan may have been a relatively short stay there before moving somewhere else a little more comfortable

@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis

10 ай бұрын

@@michaelmurphy2112yes. Also, it is an entire planet, only Yoda chose to live near the dark side cave. For a dark side user, hiding exactly opposite it on the planet might be a better option, as the cave would attract attention from a Force Wielder, while someone like Dooku could make his presence shrink and become easily overlooked.

Perhaps Dooku erased many to cause confusion, but some were specific. Maybe he hid ir for himself, or maybe he hid it in the hopes that if his former master were to survive the clone wars, it would give him a hiding place. We know Dooku did things (at least prior to the clone wars animated series) out of love for the greater good. It's not crazy to think he'd give Yoda a hiding place.

I sort of like the idea that Dooku was cooking up some grand plan in the background that even Sidious wasn't full aware of and using his job following Sidious' orders to cover his own scheming (The best deceptions being hidden behind truths - I have done your bidding master - and maybe just a little bit more you did not bid.) Only he never got a chance to carry it out because Sidious betrayed him earlier than he'd anticipated. I also like the idea that Dooku selected Degobah as a sort of emergency "My plans have gone to hell" hiding place from either the Jedi or Sidious; only for that same hiding place to be chosen by Yoda much later. I do think he has the self-discipline needed to, just barely, withstand the dark side nexus' mindfukkery,

Given that Degoba is a nexus point in the Force and is particularly attuned to the Dark Side, perhaps Dooku wanted to deny Sideous another world that could serve to boost his power. Dooku was possibly even saving it so he could use it to grow his own power to eventually overthrow Sideous, either to take his place as the leader of the Sith or to overthrow him to "Balance the Force", as Dooku was a strong believer in the old Jedi prophecies.

OUTRAGEOUS THIS IS

Watching this video makes me think of Dooku like a Severus Snape situation. Dooku was very intelligent, he knew very well that he could not underestimate either forces. For the same reason why he never had his yellow and red eyes like we saw in the other Sith, he chose not to fully commit to certain things. At the end of the day his motivations were mostly politically driven. He was disappointed with how the republic had failed as a government. If anything I think he might have had the mindset that Kylo Ren exposed to Rey: "Let the old die with the old, and let's make something new ". Basically let the old system burn and start from scratch. I'd like to believe that he looked to have contingency plans left and right.

There’s another possibility: Dooku’s slide to the Darkside was long and gradual. In the beginning he was well-meaning, and could have believed he would be able to control or defeat Sidious at some point. If he deleted the systems at the beginning of his journey, when he still had some good in him, so to speak, then perhaps he deleted Dagohbah specifically so that his old master would have a place to hide when things go down - either for the purpose of having a back up if his alliance didn’t go well, or just out of respect for his old master.

Considering the affluence that Dooku comes from, I don't know if he'd have it in him to live in hiding on a system like Dagobah. Even if his plan was to hide from Sidious or The Jedi Order. I think there was more to it than him having an escape plan. But I can believe that he erased those three dozen plus systems from the archives to throw anyone trying to investigate his plans off of the trail. Even more so with systems strong in The Dark Side, as he might use their reserves to become more powerful than his master.

@TheEpicSpire

Жыл бұрын

seems like he may have wanted to use that wealth to help fund a construction of a dark side temple on the planet, perhaps to harness that energy for himself. "Hiding out" in lavish style with a horde of subjects to rule like a king

@ericblue5436

Жыл бұрын

@@TheEpicSpire I can accept that answer.

@jimbowlan5804

Жыл бұрын

Eric Blue supposedly is built on a former darkside temple so that’s why palps was able to hide himself from the jedi

@ericblue5436

Жыл бұрын

@@jimbowlan5804 I don't believe I mentioned Palpatine in that respect.

I think Dooku was very much aware going into his apprenticeship with Sidious of the Sith Rule of Two and that at some point his usefulness to him would end (especially if he took on his own apprentice) and consequently, he would need an escape plan before that happened. I think on the whole, he erased as many planets as he could that he knew were a nexus in the Force, both light and dark side, not necessarily because he could go to a light side nexus planet and hide, but because he wanted to prevent Sidious in his dark side avarice from altering the nexus in a planet from light to dark and thus allow Sidious to only enhance his powers because allowing that to happen would mean it would only be a matter of time before Sidious (or his new apprentice) would find him. Alternatively, as was suggested by another post here, it could be that he was planning to use every planetary nexus he knew of for himself later on to overthrow Sidious, as he knew that would probably be an inevitability as well.

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Жыл бұрын

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@andydaniels3029

Жыл бұрын

@@isaacsantana6560 Actually, Plagueis was killed by Palpatine prior to Palpatine revealing himself as Sidious. By the timeline, this occurred in 32 BBY, during the events of the Phantom Menace. Intriguingly though...there's a remarkable precedent for Sith apprentices killing their masters just as the new apprentice reveals himself/herself.

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Жыл бұрын

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Жыл бұрын

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Жыл бұрын

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Maybe Count Dooku knew about the Cave of Dagoba and it's ability to bring out a person's worst fears with the force.

It was likely that it was a method of covering his tracks. If one, or even a few planets were deleted from the archives then it may have been obvious or suspicious and it could have been tracked to why it was deleted and by who. But if many were deleted, it would look like a statistical anomaly and be harder to track.

Hear me out on this, what if dooku reasonably figured dagobah was suited for yoda and if he knew the Jedi would be destroyed he wanted yoda to hide. We know he was sith but not a monster, he cared for some of his Horner jedi friends, we see that when he is saddened about quigon’s passing when he and obiwan are talking in episode 2. So it stands to reason that he respected and cared about yoda enough to set him up a hidning place in hopes he would go there

Given the presumed sincere speech he gave Obi-Wan in Ep.II when he wishes Qui-Gon was around, it's possible he wanted to preserve pockets of Jedi operations by deleting these systems. He knew Sidious' plan to rule the galaxy. It's possible he compared what planets the Sith did not have in their registrar.

By the way, Dark Yoda would have been terrifying even to Palpatine. Good thing Yoda didn't fall.

I figured he deleted a bunch of random systems alongside Kamino to obscure which system he actually wanted to hide.

Dooku likely new that he may be betrayed by Palpatine one day or that Dooku himself was planning on betraying Palpatine and that if something went wrong he may need a place to hide much like Yoda did. He chose Dagobah due to its ability to hide force signatures.

Mitch was one of the names for Yoda in a draft of 1 of star wars movies. Forget which one

Palpatine was gifted in the idea that he had to tell Dooku everything so at the last moment he would never turn on him. This led Dooku to go on a crusading event of deleting sith worlds strong in the dark side. However it seems unlikely for Sidious to not be aware of all the sith dark side caves if the entire galaxy is already discovered

I think palpatine had dooko erase planets that were strong with the force/dark side because he didn’t want it to fall under the area of imperial rule and therefore make them known planets. If they were known planets, then there would risk a possible force user discovering these planets, breaking the rule of 2, and disrupting Palpetines plans. He also wants to prevent Vader from ever finding these, tapping deeper into the dark side, and possibly becoming powerful enough to overthrow him, as palpatine knew that he had the potential to do so

I suppose when you look back and think about it Dooku's eyes never turned yellow. So he never really fully turned to the Darkside. He was somewhat of a mentally unstable and disillusioned Double Agent who was at a crossroads in his life and was never fully committed to either side. But also kept to his own internal compass of right and wrong. He was possibly walking the path of what some call a Grey Jedi. Listening to the Force to guide him, but with so many corrupted people around him both good and evil, his every attempt to get something done was interfered with and stopped. The Force was possibly what guided him to delete all of those planets, early moves on a chessboard to set up more advanced moves much later down the track. The Force had its own agenda, wipe the slate clean of the corrupt and try to reestablish a new Jedi Order with new uncorrupted people. Down the track the only real successful Jedi Order belonged to the future Empire. And that was the Royal Guards Jedi Order. Fel led them and kept them on the straight and narrow. The other Jedi Orders were easy prey to falling from grace and imploding from corruption.

Great timing for this guy.... Just gave Tales Of The Jedi a rewatch last evening. ... FANTASTIC little series of shows 💯. - Thanks much for the breakdown of this. ... Very well done per usual

He planned it as a last ditch contingency if he had to hide from either Palpatine or the Jedi. He planned to escape there, regroup and hopefully return... But I don't think he would have withstood the Nexus.

Have you considered it a hint of the path that led dooku to become a sith? One ending in a cave only his master knew of, causing madness and the dark side to well up in him and turning him to evil? I think you've all forgotten he wasn't always evil.

Way off topic, but has anyone ever realized or able to explain why the Clones in young adulthood look EXACTLY like Padme’s head of security rather than Jango!? 🤯 just look at 2:51 and see for yourself…

If he only deleted one planet, it would have been easier to figure out which one and investigate, discover the clone army earlier, and put an end to their plans. I mean, it's not that difficult to figure out.

I believe new Canon shows that the emperor knew where yoda was. And has specifically told Vader to leave him alone, since he didn't want to lose Vader.

Doesn’t Qui-Gon know about Dagobah? Since in the clone wars, he guided Yoda there beyond his death.

Doku seemed to regret killing his direct connection Jedi but saw it as a necessary evil, so what if he took the stories he heard of certain members of his close Jedi connections on how triumphs there were on certain dark systems, With them having a win despite the darkness and only them having direct knowledge of the system and coordinates, Duko saw it as a solace , a check and balance of the necessary evil he saw giving the Jedi dark necksases to hide near off of updated star maps like today on degabar

Following the rule of 2. I personally believe that Dooku actually deleted those systems more so for himself than for him and Sidious. If he were to follow such a rule. He probably would've eventually had an advantage against Sidious when it would come to finally overthrowing his master. But also since Dooku wasn't necessarily the kind of evil that Sidious was. I think he was more so trying to lead Sidious away from such potential power in the event he would fail. Which of course had happened. So in that sense. Whether he realized it or not. He was more so helping the force take away any potential power boosts Sidious could've gained within that time he would reign as the emporer. That's more so my personal theory.

Don’t forget Dagobah’s connection to Jinn. It is where Jinn told Yoda to go in the Clone Wars towards the end. 😉

I like to think he hid dagobah for his old master Yoda. He knew if he was successful with Palpatine, the jedi would all die and he still held some love for his former masters and padawans (qui gon gin)

Well by hiding dagobah he had that knowledge of were he could find Yoda if after they defeated the Jedi he was betrayed by Sidious as well. If Yoda survived, he could find him there and together they could face Sidious.

I think Sidious knew Yoda was hidden on one of these planets, if not the actual planet. I also believe if Vader found Yoda Yoda could have attempted to turn him back to the light. Especially if he informed him his children lived. Maybe Sidious foresaw this? Or feared it?

I only knew Kamino was erased and just guessed it might be Dooku since the movie suggests that but I didn’t know about the rest of this

If Dooku deleted Korriban from the archives he would have gotten caught. You can't delete the knowledge that quite literally trillions of beings had over the contetious and galaxy shaping wars of the past that all centered around the Sith and Korriban. It would have triggered alarm bells almost immediatly.

Impossible. Perhaps the archives are incomplete.

Do we know if Dagobah is Yoda’s home world? He seems well suited to live in the environment.

Starkiller never wanting to even ask questions about what Yoda is or where Yoda came from is one of the funniest things in those games. He's got a lot of "...no f*ck this" in that scene lol

When I saw the new Pistol form in Star wars Jedi survivor, it instantly reminded me of dookus dueling style. Lovely stuff

initial thought: if you're destroying data in your enemy's systems, it is possible they have offline backups somewhere you don't know about. If they do a backup restoration, they might notice the deletion, and that draws attention to the deleted item. A basic principle of cyber warfare is that you should avoid excessively-surgical deletions, because it will tell your enemy what you are interested in hiding from them. At the very least, by deleting 36 additional systems, Dooku ensures that if the tampering is noticed and investigated, the Order now has 36 false targets, and won't KNOW that those are false targets. it also makes it easier to cover up the deletion as a system malfunction. One system being deleted is suspicious. two is even more so. forty systems? obviously a malfunction.

I think you touched on a topic that deserves its own movie. To be brief... -Attack of the Clones, in the elevator Anikan told Obi Won "It's been 10 years since I've seen her (Padimae). -Later when Obi Won meets with the Caminos he says Sifo-Dyas was killed almost 10 years ago. -That 10 years would mean Sidous and Dooku placed this order when Qui Gon discovered Anikan in The Phantom Menace. - That said, clearly there is a story or two that needs to be told between The Phantom Menace and The Attack of the Clones. This should have Dooku deleting the archives, the why he did it. His relationship with Sidous. How important Sifo was to the Jedi counsel and his death.

@JVCK_UK

Жыл бұрын

They have, tales of the Jedi on Disney

A Dooku series needs to be made about his past and his eventual abandonment of the jedi

@beedabop5797

Жыл бұрын

Have you seen tales of the Jedi?

@marnixbark66

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha it is for sure about that. But i would love to see another series on dooku

Sidious and dooku had a plan to build a sith empire, I think that dooku erased these worlds so they could build there empire on there in case the republic and the Jedi did not fall. I think this makes perfect sense.

I think For all of Dookus' Faults and short comings he did have one Redeeming quality. And that was his loyalty towards his old master. But he was using it, as a tactic. Against his New Master in Sidious. An insurance plan if you will. Where he would have an Ace up his sleeve. Basically hedging his bets. Against both sides. If you remember Dooku Had no love of the Sith. But he also knew the Jedi. Always would fall short. Because of their ideology. Thus always being doomed too failure.

@isaacsantana6560

Жыл бұрын

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The notion that Dooku erased more than just Kamino to hide what was going on DOES make sense, but I doubt he would have focused on a lot of known Sith worlds. If discovered, it would have perhaps not revealed the clone army but certainly would have suggested the party behind it. It would make more sense to have a seemingly random set of little known worlds erased so that even if more than one got noticed, it would seem like a random glitch rather than an act of subterfuge.

@jamescole4258

Жыл бұрын

How do you erase/delete a planet that has a rep in the senate?

@shawnkarg3794

Жыл бұрын

@@jamescole4258 Again, I think it would lend credence to the idea that the memory had suffered a technical glitch rather than actually being removed deliberately.

I'd love to see a Yoda DISNEY+ 90min special going into details on his life post Clone Wars era.

Perhaps Dooku deleted Dagobah ... to use as a place of hiding for himself... or, on some level... sensing that Yoda might need a hiding space.

I theorise, that Dooku kept the knowledge of the erased systems to himself. He might have actually visited all the worlds to learn their ancient secrets, if he had the time. I think he might have been looking for a way to get rid of Palpatine, and become the Dark Lord of the Sith himself.

Love the content. Great video.

I think he was whipping out sith places. Since an eventual order was made that droids weren't allowed to read the sith language. It's like Palpatine wanted to erase the siths presence completely.

Having known someone with dementia, I think it's safe to say that Yoda DID in fact go insane from the dark side nexus on Dagobah. He was still coherent enough to give Luke basic training, but anything beyond that, he was pretty much nuts. Like the bit where he was trying to get a ration bar from R2-D2, it was pretty clear Yoda was off his rocker.

@user-yq9im9dk9z

Жыл бұрын

No way, that was Yoda testing Luke. He completely drops it when he's in his hut.

@slinkerdeer

Жыл бұрын

Lol.. the suggestion some passive dark side on a planet can turn Yoda insane.

Okay, so how did Luke know where Dagobah was located? In Episode V Ben Kenobi only told him to go there, adding no extra information on the location or specifics about the planet (or Yoda himself)

@ronshine7902

Жыл бұрын

I believe he allowed the Force to guide him there.

@Hello-bi1pm

Жыл бұрын

R2-D2

@janwojciechowski8446

Жыл бұрын

Well, maybe Ben's ghost guided him there. Artoo probably had galactic maps for only those systems that were officially available

@wyoboy01

Жыл бұрын

@@Hello-bi1pm That's true. Artoo knew where it was and he never had a memory wipe.

yeah, given the introduction of Mt. Tantiss, the most likely explanation is either dark side nexus worlds or list given by sidious, including wayland, degobah, exegol and others

In the clone wars cartoon, Dagobah was one of the planets that Yoda was led too by the force. I also seem to recall some of the literature about that episode stating that Dagobah was a sort of primal world where the force grew from. In this case, it was dark side orientated but it also hinted that there were worlds that were equally blessed with the light side of the force.

ORDER 66

It's possible. I think Dooku could use Dagobah to hide. It's unknown by many,far,swampy,dark. And tainted by dark side. And also it was removed because it's in dark side. As other 37. It's very plausible.Yoda was extremely powerful in the light and he defeated the dark. I think Dooku would go insane from dark side nexus. May the Force be with you :)

Looking at all the ideas in the video and comments, a lot mentioned just sounds mysterious or has insufficient reasoning. This best idea below is that he wanted to obscure gravity readings to prevent deducing the existence of Camino. The problem with that is that it didn't work, Yoda was still able to deduce a missing planet and where it was. But if no one had a particular planet in mind, wiping out several was probably a good idea just to make the mystery more expansive and harder to guess at. I like the simpler notion that Dooku took the opportunity to hide Sith planets, except doing this too brazenly would have tipped his hand, as Jedi would presumably be taught the major ones. But if he only picked obscure ones to begin with, he might expect the risk worthwhile, to do something for the Sith cause in general. As a sort of fringe benefit, he might have selected some planets useful as future hiding places for himself. But as many have said, Dooku is too urban a villain to live in a rain forest planet. So maybe he just didn't know that, or picked some planets at random, or based on the cave story Yoda told him as the videographer posits. All of which suggests he just didn't give the matter that much thought, he was just giving his trick extra mayhem to make it harder to guess about.

Very interesting addition to the archive, master!

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Imagine finding a “holocron” in a thousand years from now and it says “please like and subscribe”.

I wonder if Galen marek could have sit with yoda and discussed the force, just for yoda to discover starkiller being a dark side user but not having the same bloodlust others have had, this would be an interesting route to follow because yoda would then learn that there is strength in balance between the light and the dark. He could have even trained Luke with a few dark side teachings to help combat his father, he may have even been able to save Vader and being back anakin without him dying

When Starkiller casually bumps into Yoda was one of my favorite moments in the game

He knew that both Jedi and Sith must survive in the long run. He was creating 'secret worlds' of Dark and Light when he deleted the Records. Despite serving Sidious, Dooku saw that extermination of either side wasn't the answer. By creating secret havens for Dark and Light practitioners, Dooku insured that both orders remained in balance.

@bizmasterTheSlav

Жыл бұрын

I do believe his goals were complete opposite: he rather wanted that both Jedi and Sith perish, and a new, more balanced single order would be born.

@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis

10 ай бұрын

@@bizmasterTheSlavhe probably did want to revive the Je’daii of old.

Wasn't it confirmed in Legends that it WAS Yoda that took down the dark jedi on Degobah? Talon Karrde found his old boss that was kidnapped by the dark jedi and he had witnessed the fight between the 2, and Yoda saved his life. Part of the Legends series of Thrawns supposed return. I may not remember it correctly though.

Dooku was so under rated, extremely sharp, cunning, ruthless, and he knew all the ways of the jedi. He could have taken over the galaxy if he was younger and with his own army.

@dallasm9890

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! He’s one of my favorite Characters! God bless you all 🙏❤️

@theforcedragon3781

Жыл бұрын

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@dallasm9890

Жыл бұрын

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I'm sure more than a few systems were creating arms, vehicles, ships, ect. Others likely due to them having or even being a dark side nexus. There's even some that are likely could've been lesser known ancient Jedi training grounds that may have fallen out of use for one reason or another.

Basically this thing Galen said means Yoda/Sideous are Bout the only Force Users left by his time that are about MORE powerful then him as he would only need to get a little bit MORE powerful an then he'd probably be able to tolerate it. An being able to theorize that Yoda IS indeed staggeringly powerful like THAT also confirms just how POWERFUL both Headmasters TRULY are at their Orders.

I would hate to have been the accountant that had to audit the Jedi Temple's expenditures after Order 66. "Where were they spending these billions and billions of credits!?"

It was probably a good thing for Yoda that Dooku eliminated these planets form the archives or Sidious or maybe even Vader could've found Yoda.

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I believe it was his ploy to obtain enough power to kill sidious if the need arose. By bathing in the dark side nexus he could obtain power that possibly surpassed sidious, or at least this was the logic he used. That's what I thinj

I don't think Dooku was thinking of running from Palpatine. He was completely shocked when Palpatine told Anakin to kill him.

How cool would it have been to have a Dooku game that fully detailed his fall to the dark side and then what happened between that and Attack of the Clones

Great video as usual but what is your source for this information?

Awesome theory. I think it’s also possible that Dooku still had good in him and wanted to leverage himself should he one day face Sidious. I always wonder what would of happened if Obi Wan and Dooku would’ve teamed up against The Emperor when Dooku offered to during the beginning of the Clone Wars.

When you want to hide one thing, you disguise it by hiding many things.

I don't think he would have deleted that many worlds just to cover Kamino. The more systems you delete, the greater the chance your deletion is discovered prematurely. One world in a tiny satellite galaxy well outside the explored space, let alone Republic space, is easy enough to avoid detection on its own. I also don't think he had the system in mind as an exile. He liked finer things too much, I don't see him voluntarily hiding out in a hut in the swamp. Instead, I think he deleted Dagobah and the other worlds for his Master. Those worlds steeped in the Dark Side probably were worlds that could potentially be useful to the Sith; maybe for research, maybe to siphon power, maybe simply because they were important to Sith history (Sidious more than once showed he had an affinity for Sith history and culture for its own sake). Maybe eventually Sidious realized he couldn't really use them like he wanted and so chose to ignore them afterward, but by that point they were deleted and he figured no one else would be able to use them either.

I believe it is a combination of them all. He needed to hide his tracks, he most likely deleted a few for Sidious, maybe one or two or three extras for himself. Some were simply ways for Sidious to hoard knowledge, others were possibly fallback plans, I am guessing one or two were where resources for the final order came from. I am sure Dooku needed a place to hide too. Great video.

Maybe trying to hide knowledge of places that surviving Jedi could hide, as Yoda did. But since he was the only other person that knew about the nexus there, his plan backfired when he died and Yoda survived.

Secret Dark Side force skill called "Plot Point!" Allows for ANY future McGuffin portal for Sith WTF Bomb!

I really was curious about this. I only thought that he deleted only Kamino

Dooku also appears to have deleted the food from the Clone Trooper plates during the mess hall scene at 02:53.

how many have heard the theory that Dooku was a double agent and only one other master knew of his decision to do so and that was qui gon and the secret died with him. you can take that scene with obi wan when he is imprisoned as Dooku reaching out to him in a round about way telling him what he has discovered hoping qui gon had told his apprentice their plan.

But…on Hoth when Luke was about to pass out Obi Wan instructed him to go to the Dagobah system. Then later in his x-wing Luke seems to punch in the coordinates for Dagobah. How could he do that if the system wasn’t known? 🤔

@Hello-bi1pm

Жыл бұрын

R2-D2 knows way more than he lets on

I believe he was not fully on the dark side and he protected dagobah so Yoda would have somewhere to go...

In a universe so advanced you would think they would have backup systems and hard copies of important data.

@memphispiper2823

Жыл бұрын

That's what holocrons and holovids were for...... your brain must be _"wermo e'nachu"_

@naughtypalaceofballas

Жыл бұрын

@@memphispiper2823 nah, his reasoning is as deep as a _whuffa_ in heat

@naughtypalaceofballas

Жыл бұрын

have you heard of "droids" ? those exist too and some are able to withstand the test of time

@decepticonxhunter4850

Жыл бұрын

Just because Dooku erased them from the Jedi temple records, it doesn't mean that there weren't droids or other ppl that possessed star charts of that system lol

@naughtypalaceofballas

Жыл бұрын

@@decepticonxhunter4850 He's high on the spice, my friend. He needs to go back to Dagobah and rethink his life.

As I recall he always planned to kill his master and he'd be a fool not to have a back up plan, he'd likely not be as close as Yoda so he would set up far away enough that it's affects aren't driving him made but close enough to be masked. And he likely used the masking their trail excuse for Dagoba because even if sideous knew about the nexus it wouldn't serve him any purpose when so many world have been tainted by much more darkness

having a escape is always a good idea