Why don’t self defense instructors teach defense?
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Self defense instructors don’t teach defense. Why not?
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There is another issue that rarely gets discussed - There are good self-defence instructors who can teach, and would like to teach, soft skills (examples: risk assessment planning; communications skills; basic personal first aid; etc etc etc..) BUT the vast majority of people who want to learn self defence don't want to learn that - they want the magic 'Five-Point-Palm Exploding-Heart-Technique' and what's worse, they want it in a couple of easy lessons where they won't even have to break a sweat.
@dusk6159
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And making people fly with wrist grips.
@kingartifex
Жыл бұрын
this comment! totally agree. The reason these charlatans exist is because of supply and demand, demand dictactes the supply. If you teach women "real" self defense they will just leave and get bored. They don't really come to learn how to defend themselves, they come for entertainment value. Its easier to teach them what they want to hear, they get to throw a few punches on man wearing padding and feel good about themselves, and instructor doesn't go broke for not having any customers.
@RobertAgarHutton
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@@dusk6159 except when it happens - I have been sent reeling by people using little force but with them getting the angle exactly right and having both my balance disrupted and my ability to restore my balance hindered by the force and direction of the force applied... But, I'd also say, that's not 'self-defence' that's high level 'martial arts' skills. Also in those cases, add in some luck and often some degree of compliance... Person 'A' does the attack and then person 'A' allows person 'B' the time to do the defence :)
@TheLuconic
Жыл бұрын
You are not wrong. I am trying to convince my friend to at least workout for health reasons and their response is always that their are lazy or have no time. I ask what they do and they tell me they do nothing each day…..😮
@RobertAgarHutton
Жыл бұрын
@@TheLuconic We were talking about that both yesterday and today at in-person tai chi sessions that I run - the problem seems to be that post pandemic, people are either lazy, still worried (about catching covid), or simply unaware of how important exercise is. Now, in fairness, being fit is not a defence against covid, but it is a defence against a lot of things that reduce either or both of the length or the quality of life that we have.
The problem is most self defence instructors have never been in a fight
It's extreamly more difficult to beat someone who is defensive that someone that is agressive. The main reason many sports penalize pasivity is because if people played it safe, many combats will be incrediblely boring, but thats the idea of self defense, avoid harm.
@binarioochentaycinco4791
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yes, in sports when a counter-fighter fights a counter-fighter, is boring AF. because both of them are wating for the other to make and action to counter.
As a medic I see a lot of people who have been choked by their spouse. It happens all the time but injuries are generally superficial. It does however make the victim feel powerless. This explains why power fantasy is an easy sell
“Whatever skillset you intend to use in real life, you have to get good at.” That pretty much sums it up💯
As a ex- self-defense instructor I can answer this question... It's because self-defense as is commonly thought of and taught is a marketing strategy designed to facilitate making people easily overwhelmed by fear feel invincible (and invincible people don't need to defend). The really sad thing is that we have become such a fear based society that there are actually a lot of people out there that want these classes in order to help them feel less afraid... but a lot of the times it just promotes reckless behavior (which we are also into, so... win, win, win?). :( And yeah, we are insanely outnumbered by the "self-defense" industry "instructors". :(
@lsmmoore1
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And that would be why autistic people show up in these classes only to find an utter refusal to respect boundaries greeting them. Because that's what happens when you get a bunch of extroverts in a room and get them to feel like they can do no wrong. They get up in autistic people's face all day and won't leave them alone. And autistic people, already having difficulty with neurotypical social patterns, get overwhelmed and don't come back.
@DragonBee
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If people want to feel less afraid they need to develop their self esteem and self reliance.The more sure you feel of yourself, the less fear you feel from everything else. Not that one can be fearless, but you can minimize the fear you feel or learn to overcome it temporarily if you're in a bind.
@Nuetral768
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@@DragonBee It's not usually that easy, people are complex machines and when we break it's usually a major pain in the butt to get that machine working again... especially without breaking anything else in the process.
@jdrmanmusiqking
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@Nuetral768 Excuses. It needs to be done BECAUSE its hard. Everything starts with the self so people like you are the problem. Youre enabling weak people to find strength outside of themselves via GARBAGE self defense courses because its "easy" Its EAZY to look to something else for strength. We need to teach people how to look within no matter how hard it may be
The trinity of self-defense: combat (warrior), running away (thief), and diplomacy (mage).
I practice self-defense 2-3 times a week. They call it a 5k run
@datoolz0
Жыл бұрын
Who, precisely, will chase you 5km? You planning to take me on? 100m is more than enough, No one will chase you further than that.
@hpa4355
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same here. I practice (as many of us) many martial arts/combat sports and run on a weekly basis. When I speak about martial arts to people and they mention how good it must be for self-defense and which techniques I would use to overpower any random attackers out in the street, I usually answer that I don't do that for fighting in the street and that in such situation, negotiation and/or run is always the preferable option. Only if I'm cornered I'd answer with fighting, but I don't think I would feel comfortable in a street fight even with years of sparring in different sports, other guy might also know some techniques, have a weapon, and so on and so on... RUN :)
The first grading I did at a RBSD school was Pre-Fight tactics. We analysed CCTV footage of a dozen genuine self-defence scenarios and looked at the behaviour of the attackers in the lead up to the attack, and then the method of attack. We focused on avoidance drills and distance management. We learned: Threat Identification, Threat Assessment, Avoidance, Distance Management, De-escalation techniques, Pre-Fight Interview, Pre-Attack Indicators (verbal and body language cues), Understanding a violent situation, Disengagement and Escape, Understanding adrenal stress response, State laws of self-defence and assault. In 2 years of Jiu Jitsu, 18 months of Boxing none of the classes I’ve attended have mentioned any of those things at all.
@Steve-ul8qb
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You should mention it. They may be open to your insights? Good luck.
@wattlebough
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@@Steve-ul8qb When I was a 2 stripe Jiu Jitsu white belt the instructor invited me to teach the breakfalls I’d learned in the evil bullshido style they call Krav Maga 😉. My BJJ Black Belt instructor had seen me doing them in Jiu Jitsu takedown training. It was a humbling but also thrilling experience being a low ranked Jiu Jitsu white belt teaching a class of BJJ Black, Brown, Purple and Blue belts for about 45 minutes. They were very open and attentive, and the student that picked them up best was a purple belt who was a police swat team member. When the class was over I had a guy who was a Judoka come over to me and tell me that the breakfalls I taught them were better and more detailed than the ones he’d learned in his Judo classes. It was a great experience.
@celluskh6009
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I'm not sure how far you're going to get in BJJ/boxing if you need threat ID training (just for some free help - it's not the ref), or you're already thinking of escape...
@wattlebough
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@@celluskh6009 What are the cues that the victim of this attack missed and what was the victims biggest mistake? Enjoy: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lImNptieo6S7lJc.html
@mrbouncelol
Жыл бұрын
@@wattlebough And then everyone clapped
Really liking your last videos Better audio, faster videos, answering a lot of questions Thanks for the effort, Ramsey
Yep, when you watch most of self defense videos and then you watch real fight(cctv footage), the one doesn't look like the other
@davidjadeaeckhard9625
Жыл бұрын
Exactly!🌎
In my expirience, wrist grab escape can be very helpful. A copule of times my hand was grabed by a random guys who was drunk or just angry. They wanted to mess with me and i was able to get away without raising level of violence. Obviosly, no grab escape would help if they were not just angry and agressive but determined from the start to punch or choke me.
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed
Жыл бұрын
Are you a woman?
Because that's hard work and actually painful. Also, reality would destroy most people's businesses in the industry.
Well summed up Ramsey 😁👍 there are no miracle solutions, only hard work 💪
Thank god I am not alone. I appreciate this.
I think a lot of self defence courses are often just adverts for joining whatever Martial Arts club is running them. Wrist grabs and throat grabs are the easiest to teach since there's no blocking punches or evasive movements required. The attacker is standing still and their hands are in a static position just waiting for you to apply whatever technique they decide to show you. For someone that has no idea about striking or grappling they can seem impressive and easy to pull off. The martial arts equivalent of a gateway drug.
@daxbradley4346
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The scene that came to mind when I read your post is the Rex Kwon Do guy from "Napolean Dynamite"..."Grab my wrist. Other hand....MY other hand" lol Serisously though, you're right, simplistic lessons like that run the danger of giving a false sense of security where the practitioner's confidence exceeds their ability. That said, I used to be one of them, and I get what instructors are trying to do there, hoping to rope in students without going "too deep" right away. Give them a taste, hope they'll come back and sign an agreement, where the real instruction will begin and they'll be provided with a better TMA education, assuming this is not a McDojo.
@dorkangel1076
Жыл бұрын
@@daxbradley4346 Yeah, same with displays and demo's. The idea is to show something flashy and eye catching, not necessarily realistic or practical. It's just marketing.
Ramsey should voice movies and books, I think. This voice is gold
Funny in military hand to hand instructor tried to put myself in none escape holds after the third throw of the instructor and getting him to breath again ; he said meet your news sensei and pointed to me the trainee !...
The Danger! Thank you for being a Champion for "The Truth." The ultimate standard of Martial Arts is "The Truth." Thank you for the Lesson(s). Pure Love & Respect. Two Tigers
People who try to seize your wrists or any part of your arm are transitory in procedural motion. Their ultimate aim in seizing your wrist is to subsequently pull your body closer to them in order to stabilize your body to enhance the effectiveness of their intended strikes and/or grappling movements they're planning to execute against you. No one just walks up to someone and just grabs their wrist. Seizing is a preliminary intermediary action necessary to effect their intended primary objectives!!!
He who lives by the sword better be able to kick some serious ass.
Ramsey teach us every step.. Thank you...!!! 🙏🙂
Power fantasy enabler: genius description of every modern dojo I've entered. When I ask the operators they all say the samething: "insurance and liability".
The Danger! Thank you for your unrelenting Work Ethic (and commitment to being Complete). I am reminded of a quote: "If you want to get any good at fighting, it is a slow, tedious, painful process. And, a lot of it is joyless sacrifice ... Blood, sweat, & tears. Those are real things that go into it." - Ramsey Dewey 16 February 2020. The Nature of Fighting is the Nature of Life. Thank you for the Lesson(s). Pure Love & Respect. Two Tigers
The only time that the two handed choke was apllied to me in real life, was when I was a teenager by a much bigger and agressive older guy. I remember being taught the drills in Karate class about breaking the two handed choke holds and counter attacking, however, I really didn't want to fight this guy, being a skinny teenager. So I instinctively kept walking back and he was unable to keep his grip. The choke wasn't hurting me at all despite his anger and larger size. Just stepping back seemed to stop it. Everytime he went fro my neck after this I just stepped back. This continued until the situaltion was resolved. (He thought that a group of us were part of a gang that had been behaving bad in that neighborhood, but I had nothing to so with them, once he was informed of this by my friends who were present, he talked friendly to us for a time, explaing all the bad tings that this gang had been doing).
@katokianimation
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One time i challenged someone to submission wresstling. It was playtime for me. He was obviously going for the rape choke. And I was like okay let it be, seems fun. And it was basically free hand given to me. A static arm is your best friend. Took the hand that was was the top of the other with no effort. And controlled his armb by three fingers. The other hand just slipped while i was moving my head. And i gain controll over his whole upper body in no time. I think it is an insult to call it a choke. I would barely call it a frame. It is an insult to grappling.
@mikhailvasiliev6275
Жыл бұрын
Mission failed successfully LMAO
Thanks for uploading this Great video and vlog
Kudos, again!
Avoid, deny, defend is the montra my employer uses for work place violence. I guess in a non work place perspective it would be avoided dangerous areas. Avoid becoming too intoxicated to protect yourself. If it's an high crime area or punch palace bar don't go there. Deny get good locks on your doors and or a security system. Park in high traffic areas of an establishment. Defend yourself. You don't need to win. You need to break the contact and survive. As far as techniques, there are no magic techniques. There are techniques that simply don't work and some that do but not if you don't train those techniques.
@williambarton5681
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For a moment I thought that was their mantra for dealing with HR claims. Avoid dealing with the claim, if that fails deny the claim, if that fails defend against it...
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed
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You sound terrified
Thank you for answering my comment!
I really liked your thumbnail 😂
Finally! An honest human. ❤
I’ve tried to be as honest as I can when I have been given the honor to ”instruct” in self defense. But it is hard to get people to pay attention to instructions like ”tie your shoes”, ”don’t drink to much alcohol or preferably none at all” and my favorite ”work out regularly and eat healthy”. All of these things will keep a lot of people safer than the alternative. Most people want a sense of empowerment and confidence, and they want you to provide it in one or maybe five lessons. So I dont instruct anymore, unless I can explain all those concepts first. Then I hope that they do take martial arts classes, work out and generally try to be healthy.
For me what comes first is communication then fight. I’m a 240 pound muscular 5’4 wrestler, I can’t out run many people being short and massive. But I certainly will talk my way out and defend before even thinking of getting physical cause what if they have a weapon.
@gersonencarnacion3744
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Jesus Christ! 240 pounds at 5'4 man thats crazy Im 5'9 and I weigh 189lbs.
@Fella_friend
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@@gersonencarnacion3744 I’m a little lighter now at 228 pounds
@Fella_friend
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@@gersonencarnacion3744 but yeah I’ve always had a bulky frame for my height. My calves are 17 inches in diameter. Which should give context for exactly how bulky I am
The thumbnail has me ROLLING! 😂😂😂😂😂
I was in the serbian military we where always told never put yourself in a situation u don't want to be in and always walk away from trouble just get up and leave and go to the next bar as an example
@robertsmith6068
Жыл бұрын
pretty much the don't go to stupid places and do stupid things with stupid people defense. Sometimes it doesn't work though.
Judo is probably one of the most effective in street fights . Being that everyone's wearing clothing you can choke them and toss them around with their own clothing. Just grabbing somebody from their collar. You can choke the crap out of them.
@markusmaier2277
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Problem is no weight classes on the street
@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812
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I won't say it is not effective, it very much can be. But oddly judo is actually the only martial art that was originally intended for practice/sport. Not actual combat
@markusmaier2277
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@@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812 I like Krav Maga even though its bashed everywhere these days
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed
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@@markusmaier2277 you don't need one . This is a fighting style that uses leverage and angles . And it's the powerhouse of the martial arts. You have to be extremely strong with tremendous hand grip to compete in this
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed
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@@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812 Yes, very true. Like wrestling. Wrestling was the way they would train for submission matches.. Because if you train submissions, you might get hurt. So by training wrestling you can train to position yourself in these submissions but not really do them
"When in doubt, aim for the groin" - TMA founders
I agree 100% I always got away from textbook moves.
You GOT A POINT THERE!!!
I feel that even good fighting dosent fully adress self defense. One also has to learn how to use these skills and calculate risk assestments in diferent situations.
@RamseyDewey
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Well, you’re 100% correct. It doesn’t!
OMG that Thumbnail 🤣!!
Very good question for real fights are not defensive; but attacking being taught !...
Hey coach, I’ve been training in boxing for a bit in my highschool boxing club, and there are some chances that I’ll be able to get into a tournament sometime if the other schools are wanting agree to a tournament. When that happens, I want to get some advice for what I should expect, seeing as you have a lot of experience. Thanks, coach.
The secret formula off realistic SD :D : 95% of SD can be learned under a minute - don't be stupid with stupid people in stupid places 2% can be learned in a day - how to use a pepper spray 2% can't be changed or learned - size and other genetic predispositions. 1% of actual hand to hand fighting skill, fitness and experience takes years to lifetime. Of course all that from the perspective of an average civilian adult in a pacified society. A child that is bullied, some adult environments and some jobs would make training worth it, but even than it is debatable wether that is self-defense or if that specific social environment requires fighting skills to socially advance, earn etc. Because, IMHO, for most people in most developed countries hand-to-hand combat is not necessarily that useful for self defense while at the same time requiring a lot of time and effort, SD businesses are bound to operate in a fantasy world of non-functional responses to non realistic threats. I know many people that train. I know many more that do not train. I have not noticed a significant difference in SD needs between them. Those that train and do use their skills out of the gym do that intentionally - either working the doors or working their egos- not because they get randomly attacked on the streets.
@williampaulcoaching
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Incredible comment lol
Have you ever done a review of the end fight in the movie ENOUGH? Thought it would be relevant in a discussion about self defense and power fantasy
@RamseyDewey
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I was just thinking about that movie. Last week, a new female student mentioned it during training. The movie inspired her to learn martial arts- of course, like all movies, the violence is very stylized, follows a set of tropes, and always works out in favor of the protagonist- but it got her to get out there and train for real, so that’s something.
Juxtaposition of violence is an interesting thing, based on the questions I see you address on here man
believe it or not i watched ur whole 3 hours tier list lmao xd
Geoff Thompson writes a lot about self defence and also about a lot of other things - worth checking out: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoff_Thompson_(writer)
Somewhere out there, criminals are watching youtube "other offense" compilations, teaching them to grab wrists and laugh maniacally. They're getting stronger every day. Why don't you want people to be safe from them?
Whenever, I'm attacked, I have the attacker roll a D20. I say to bad guy, the roll isn't high enough to get past my AC.
You are defenetly right I'm training muyai thai because i want to learn self defense technics and i want to enjoy sparing it's highly effective in real life for my experience, but the problem in the streets is the fear, even if you have effective skills you will lose if you are afraid this is why i also read self defense books that teach how to manage your emotions in a bad situation then i can say that a combat sport with some knowledge of psychology in a street fight are the best self defense system!
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed
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When you're in the street fight situation, you need to start thinking what you're going to do Need to look for openings Maybe you can kick a knee or you can punch at the liver. Fear will make you stop thinking. Don't stop thinking.
@jasonsanders8091
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The big fear to overcome is fear of really fighting because if you hit hard then they will really mess you up. Sparring hard might help.
@ultraghost3870
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@@jasonsanders8091 i agree
In general, you’re correct but have you checked out Idan Abolnik and his Kalah System? I would give it a look if I were you and check out his videos.
Self defense ala Cobra Kai. Just strike first, strike fast, (MY MODIFICATION) then run for your life.
I've started to think- if you want to learn real self-defence, you should study bodyguards. Self-defence isn't a profession- nobody is going to pay you to walk through a bad neighbourhood to test out your Krav Maga on the first guy to mug you. Teaching it is a profession, and some jobs like policing have it as an aspect of their profession. Bodyguards, though, are the closest thing to self-defence as a profession, since they are at least defending others if not themselves. What professional bodyguards learn is- deescalation, observation, communication, teamwork, risk assessment, driving, cyber-security etc Yes, they learn how to fight and use weapons "as well", but those are only small (and usually avoidable) part of their occupation. They also make you think about things like your routine, your lifestyle, your job, your home, your neighbourhood, the company you keep- in other words, what kind of threats you are actually likely to actually encounter, what you can do to prevent that encounter from happening in the first place, and how to mitigate it if it does. Makes me wonder- imagine if you were hired to be your own bodyguard: what advice or rules would one say to oneself? 🤔
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed
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Most bodyguards already know how to fight. They come from a fighting background. Krav maga? Lmfaooo00! First you have to tuck your curls in
This guy should be in advertising with that kinda voice. Or narrating audio books or something
Well, if you are attacked by a streetfighter: If he is: Stronger than you and a better fighter --> run (most of the times, otherwise there would most likely be no attack in the first place...) If he is: weaker than you and a worse fighter --> no problem at all If he is slightly Stronger than you and a worse fighter --> some techniques may have a benefit. I agree with Ramsey, if you really want to be prepared for a street fight, you need to either perform kind of UFC cage fighting for practice or go street fighting... I did some martial arts when I was younger. As a warm-up for Kung Fu, we often did "free" grappling. When I did the grappling with the trainer, he had no chance against me. His skill was way above mine, but the gap between my 120 kg vs his 70 kg could not be cover by skill (at least at a non professional fighter level). When I did Kickboxing with a 80 kg former Russian professional Kickboxer, he wiped the floor with me without sweating, despite my strength and reach advantage - but then again the ring rules don't apply on the street....
In Living Color handled this perfectly with Jim Carrey in the 1990s.
Very good points. When I used to teach karate I would teach some verbal and physical avoidance strategies. Also I would train people to react with open palms to treating situations. I learned this from a cop/martial artist. It keeps you ready to protect and/or fight. It looks non violent. And good forbid you are attacked and can't defend it shows defensive wounds.
Hi coach Ramsey, love the vids, I’ve got a question for Q&A with the coach, do you think you can tell me what exercises I should be doing to strengthen my hips for combat sports?
@RamseyDewey
Жыл бұрын
Squats and deadlifts
Bullshido is my favorite form of martial arts
I've had people grab my wrist before, and I was thankful for having learned how to break wrist grabs.
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed
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Are you a woman?
@Agustin-zg5wk
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No he's blockmasterscott it says right there
In your Opinion what is the best martial art for bending back cat ears?
Funny enough, de-escalation was something that was taught to me as a white belt in Judo, which isn’t even considered a self-defense style.
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed
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Judah would be probably one of the best styles to learn
@ricksterdrummer2170
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@@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed I got nothing bad to say about it. haha
Sup couch, off topic question. I a have a bunch of bumps in both of my shins after a year of kickboxing, are these bumps normal? It doesn't hurt or anything and they'rent visible but I can feel it when I touch my shins.
You forgot the skillset which requires that don't provoke a weary individual in the first place.
HEY COACH, SKIDATTLE AND GO TRAIN!
Hey Ramsey I was thinking about trying out a kempo karate school and I was going to do there real world self defense class what do you think
@RamseyDewey
Жыл бұрын
Every class, every instructor, and every gym is a different experience. Go try it out and let me know what you think.
Hello Ramsey i am planning to switching from boxing to sanda kickboxing what should i expect when on the first day
@RamseyDewey
Жыл бұрын
That’s going to depend on who the coach is. Go take a look at the class first if you want to know. You’ll never get the same experience at two different gyms.
Hey coach, how are you today? I’m doing well alright, I’ve started an mma club at my uni in Southern California. I got a couple of quick questions first. why would I opt for a half Nelson when I could get my hooks in and take back? I feel like it puts me in a better situation to end the match. What would I even do after I get a half Nelson? Can you make a detailed video about all Nelson’s, how to get them in a grapling and mma match, and what to do with them? I understand quarter Nelson alright, and full Nelson is fairly simple, but half is new to me, and according to farmer burns’ “lessons in wrestling and physical culture”, the half Nelson is the most common Wresling hold…
@RamseyDewey
Жыл бұрын
Ooooo… that’s a great question. If you truly want to be a good grappler, you need to understand the half nelson.
Footwork, blocking, escapes, etc. is for combat sport. Self-defense is about disabling attackers in 1-3 moves then run.
Hello there dewey! Have you heard about trav’s knife defense course, from fightsmart? If so, would you mind checking it out? What’s your stance on knife defense in general? Trav is one of those few people in the martial arts scene who keep it real just like you, so i thought maybe you could give it a try since you’re deeply involved in the martial arts scene as a whole. Thanks.
@RamseyDewey
Жыл бұрын
I’m not familiar with Trav. But if you get into a knife fight, you will get cut no matter what.
"Everything these weirdos do is weird" ha ha :)
I've actually been in several situations where people tried using the stupid self-defense attacks on me: using both hands to grab the throat, the creepy massage grab from behind the back, overarm bearhug, grabbing the upper arm with one hand and neck with the other from behind. In all those cases, in the back of my mind I had an idle amusement that this actually happened in real life. I think it has to do with aggressive people trying to assert dominance when they don't consider you a threat, so it's not a real fight in their mind. I've always adopted very nonthreatening body language in confrontations: palms forward, avoid eye-contact, etc. I doubt anyone would use them once you raise your dukes. Granted, I don't see why you need a specific "defense" for each of those low level techniques, it's enough to have mentally pictured the general scenario and previously decided what level of response and how not to squander the opportunity to catch them off guard. Not everyone can spend their life becoming an elite fighter, and even an elite fighter can make low-level street smart mistakes.
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed
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Judo is probably one of the best self-defense you can use Being that we're all wearing clothing you just grab them and toss them around.
@kevingray4980
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@@nuclearchef-san8304 😁point taken
Hi Ramsey, I have seen a lots of your videos and I like what I see here because you are one of the most realistic people who understand professional fightings and if you don't mind if you have time if is it possible from you to analyse one specific martial art that I train the most of the time and I really want to see your opinion. Its about Wing Chun, but not that Wing Chun that you and most of other people you hear all the time, but is specific kind of Wing Chun made by William Cheung as he specifically say that his type of wing chun is actual the real wing chun which I doubt and I know its just a business, but please, can you make some effort to see the tactic of that martial art and is that style legit for self defence and combat or is it the same as all other fake martial arts? For example in the other wing chun styles the tactic is to use the central line, while here is also about the central line, but you have to hunt the opponent elbow so you can trap him in the blind site so he can't fight you with both hands, I mean its easier if you see William Cheung videos🤣
Martial arts and self defence are seen as the same thing. It couldn’t be further from the truth. Martial arts teach you how to fight. It doesn’t teach you self defence. It is assumed that if you can fight you can defend yourself. True until you factor in size, strength and aggression. Martial arts tournaments proved that martial arts do not work for self defence by their need to have different weight divisions. More telling is that they don’t allow women to compete against men. A fight requires 2 willing parties. In self defence, you are not a willing party. You are not there by choice. This necessitates a different approach to be effective. Because the fundamental differences between fighting and self defence are not recognised, you ended up with the blind teaching the blind. Fighting is hard but paradoxically, self defence is easy if you can get away from the mentality of fighting.
In a nutshell, the best self defense is GET OUT THERE AND TRAIN 👊
Run away? I can barely walk due to back problems. I get my cardio swimming, love swimming. So, I guess if I am by a canal (used to live in Holland), ocean (lived and worked for years in San Diego) or here in Riverside CA (I have never actually seen the river we are supposedly beside) then I guess I could swim away...
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed
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Ha ha ha 🤣 just carry pepper spray
I think the wrist grab is to pull you to their windowless van. Hard to tell though because they don't really show that part in the self defense videos. That or it comes from aikido or something which comes from trying to control a limb that has a weapon which was a bigger problem in feudal japan than modern day first world.
Here's a thought: Think like an ambush apex predator. The attack would be sudden and unexpected, with intent to do as much initial damage as possible to leave the prey in a severely weakened condition. I have yet to see a self-defense video that addresses such an attack. Ramsey's tests of various self-defense strategies should be required viewing before every class or session that advertises such strategies. Even a trained fighter can admit that a vicious and unexpected attack can leave them at a disadvantage. Btw, the most realistic "self-defense" video I've seen was by Bas Rutten, he had some advice for dealing with the specific situation of an unavoidable confrontation in a bar, and he was explicit about the use of almost anything as an available weapon. Good advice, but again, he was addressing a very specific situation in which getting dry-gulched from behind was not a part of the scenario.
@adolfhipsteryolocaust3443
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That rarely happends because fighting and hunting are 2 very different things, usually when people fight it's clear they are gonna fight for a long time before they actualy do, or is somebody wants to ro you he usually doesn't want to kill you or hurt you, even criminals have a conciense, and in a situation were you are abushed there is nothing you can do, a guy can hit you from behind in the head with a rock or somwthing and it doesn't matter who you are, you are dead
I like that you acknowledge that combat sports is the opposite of the traditional self-defense mindset. I agree with Don "The Dragon" Wilson also, who said in a recent interview (and I'm paraphrasing) that the modern proliferation of MMA / UFC style coaching that is currently the most popular form of martial arts instruction can be trouble if you aren't teaching traditional values- honor, discipline, respect. I realize that there are instructors who are maybe a "best of both worlds" leader, representing the sport and aggressive competition side, but also enforcing the respect and discipline philosophies. Maybe The Dragon is right, and teaching only the physical aggressive side leads to combatants like Conor McGregor or Tito Ortiz, all about themselves and not respecting the sport, the art, or anyone else. My opinion by the way is not a cruitique on Ramsey, who seems like a straightforward, no-nonsense guy who just tells it as he see it.
The irony is that having a good cardio with shoes that you can run in on is probably more effective than 95% of the advice given online. That is of course if your local drug dealer isn't in the same running club/cross fit gym as you in the night.
@BigJuice69
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lol it's not the drug dealers that'll get you it's the drunks.
It's where the money is
Clickbait thumbnail reply: That's a very noncommittal knee.
Hi Ramsey hope you're well. I was wondering with the UFC signing Raul Rosas jr what are your thoughts. Do you think it's a non issue or would you be concerned with the effects an MMA career might have on someone still developing long term?
@RamseyDewey
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Is he that 17 year old they just signed? I don’t know how it’s legal for an American company to sign children to consent to compete in cage fighting, where the fighters have to sign multiple legally binding agreements including a non-compete agreement, and more importantly waiving their rights to sue in case of injury of death. Somebody needs to explain the legal gymnastics of that to me.
@systemdegenerate
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@@RamseyDewey I thought it was strange. Especially how most fighters retire because of long lasting injuries. That could seriously affect him when he's older even if he is good enough to win fights
The first law of self defense, is always treat a stranger with respect.
@mikhailvasiliev6275
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What if they're unfathomably stupid?
@bendavies8881
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@@mikhailvasiliev6275 then it will be very difficult, but the advice I gave is probably still sound!
Thank you for the always interesting, thought provoking and yes entertaining commentary on self defense. The general dialog on this subject seems to run the gamut of opinions. While I recognize and value your expertise in this area (or I wouldn’t be writing) , I would like to offer some, let’s say nuance to what you say. In another video, you said that self defense is a legal term rather than a thing, then went on to say you teach the opposite; but the opposite of what, a legal concept or a thing? The opposite of a legal concept is another legal concept. Perhaps we can, for the moment, define them as more than legal terms. Self defense to me is learning how to prevent, evade or escape an unprovoked attack with the minimum damage possible. An example would be a real life scenario I read about from a smash and grab thief. He’d watch people, pick one that was not particularly paying attention, attack suddenly from behind, usually a strike to the back of the head or neck, (perhaps with a weapon, can’t remember) then as the person went down, kick them in the head several times until unmoving, rifle their pockets or take their packages and leave never checking or caring about how hurt his target was. This to me is a good example of a self defense scenario and it is indeed the opposite of fighting in boxing, MMA, or even street fighting (however you define that). Training for this would be very different. Obviously, maintaining an awareness of what and who is around you is key, as is choosing carefully where you are and when you go, but what physical training should be pursued? I can’t say as I have never been in such a situation, but I suspect that overall conditioning is a good start and also (don’t laugh) kata practice; not to learn blocking and fighting techniques per se, but to learn how to move in a balance manner without having to think about it. I understand that one would need more, such as the fighting skills you teach, but don’t think that is more relevant that the kata practice. How one develops the necessary instantaneous ability to deliver a potentially crippling blow without even thinking is not clear to me. Heavy bag work would be good, but actual sparring, I’m less clear about. When sparring, the mindset is probably different. I am not trying to imply you are wrong, and again I watch your videos with an appreciation of what you offer, I’m just offering the opinion that self defense training can be a goal different from MMA fighting and not all instructors offer bogus advice. Mine doesn’t, it is always one on one and he has never charged me a dime. Any thoughts you have are always welcome. Thanks for listening.
There's nothing called self defense . u either can fight or u can. Learn to strike and to grapple. It takes time but it is what need to defend yourself.
"How do you fix it? You get out there and train!" Did you just say, "stick stick stick stick"?
@RamseyDewey
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Yes!
I've got to know, what kind of accent is this? Your voice really sounds cool to me.
Exactly! And my major point is if the person assaulting you is faster, you will generally lose. The best defense is a good, painful offense. If I get there first you lose.
What if you develop a real self defense course, an “Avoidance Defense” system, if you will, that has a foundation in all those things mentioned in this video that are actually useful for avoiding being harmed: footwork, evasion, covering up, distance management, escape and run away. Maybe throw in some parkour and track and field training so that people can practice running away and putting obstacles between themselves and their pursuers.
Today I started to teach my wife self defence. I have zero martial arts experience and been in zero fights. I have however seen black belt martial artists pinned on the floor and beaten to hell. I explained to her that martial arts was a sport, not self defense. I explained that the most likely floor surface would be concrete, and she does not want to be trying to wrestle around on concrete with the weight of a man on top of her. So I taught her to take a punch. To block a punch. The signs that a punch was coming. How to stand. How to move her feet. How to stay out of range. How to backhand someone. How to describe an attacker to police. How to use situational awareness. How to be a hard target. How to spot a peacock fighter. I made a padded floor then let her try and escape holds using whatever she could think of as a move. After just a few hours I'm quite confident that she could now ruin the plans of any would be rapist or Karen
"play it again sam", woody allen movie where he goes on a date, ends up at a biker bar, a guy grabs gets him from behind, and woody allen keeps trying and trying to elbow him in the solar plexus. People are laughing at him. His date takes off with a biker. Back to you vid, the attacker grabs your wrist, and just stands there. Attacked throws a punch, and just leaves it out there waiting for lightening to strike.
I’d like to box competitively but I’m pretty concerned about how corrupt it’s become, what’s your thoughts on the current state of boxing?
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed
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You need to have a tremendously big mouth. You need to win a few fights Then you need to start calling people out. It seems that KZreadrs have taken over boxing.
@BWater-yq3jx
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I'd be guessing there's less corruption in entry-level boxing competition, as there's not much money in it.
@dsiii98
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Yeah if I wanted to cut promos I’d join the WWE, I’ll check out entry level boxing
What about this for a self defense move, you catch them by surprise when they're not expecting it and do a straight palm strike to the nose, keeping your elbow in and putting your weight into it, then a straight left or something..
Full contact fight for your life is a very draining scenario. I've done 3 minute upstairs sprints that's less exhausting than 1 minute hard contact on a heavy bag. Maybe my technique and breath rhythm needs improvement. But I'm a very athletic person and I've been humbled. To hear all these mcdojos promising a 1 touch 0 touch knockout or a skinny person talking big it's literally concerning. Just a personal note for the "too big to strike" is a complete myth. And then there is strength. A person's can have such ridiculous grip strength their fingers and hands are literally an extra set of teeth and jaws.
@nagyzoli
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Naaah.. you just overcommit (agree on all the train and get in shape part of course, I am referring to why you tire out). 10 moderate swings are better than 2 "I will take you head off" swings. I bet you start slow pow, pow, pow and then "explode" into "pow-pow-pow-step-lowkick-pow-pow-endless combo" as adrenalin kicks in. Keep your rythm and cool. You need to strike faster than your opponent, not faster than the speed of light. Also as with guns "shot placement" aka accuracy matters A LOT. You gain a big pain in the knuckles if you swing for the jaw and actually strike the forehead.
The only self defense class that is worth ones time is Krav Maga, and its gota be by someone whos been military trained. The classes i took in Orlando was run by 2 ex military and a Jiu Jistu instructor. There was alot of knowing the law, how to use a gun, how to respond to intense circumstances like when getting jumped by multiple people and how to get out, how to strike, how not to get stabbed or cut if someone has a bladed weapon knowing when to run or defend, fluid movements, and how to defend yourself against someone who knows JiuJitsu since that is the most popular form of combat out there right now. Shaan Saar has been the best classes ive taken and ive taken some for about a year; twae kwon do, aikido, muai thai, mma and western boxing before them and felt like they combined the best of all those worlds in one class, and the practical mentality you need to survive. We did lots of sparring too which helps put this stuff into practice. But yea, most self defense classes are trash unfortunately.
I should think that anyone who has grappled (especially in a gi) realizes the importance of defending wrist, sleeve and collar grabs. Even if you want to run away, you need to break any holds the opponent has on you first. Also, I think there is a tendency to criticize self-defense instructors for not demonstrating the techniques with a resisting opponent, but how many of the bjj or wrestling technique videos are done with active resistance? The vast majority are obviously done with cooperative assistants to enable the instructor to explain while he is doing the technique. I don't dispute that many of them (self-defense videos) are painfully inadequate in conveying how much power and explosiveness you require, but I do think that most videos ridiculing self-defense or aikido or whatever other tma are strangely doing the exact same mistake (ie. thinking that inexpertly copying the movement and tempo of the instructor prooves anything). If you try doing that with a Gordon Ryan instructional it will fail just as miserably as when you take some tma technique out of context and expect it to work without having trained it more than a few times, and without applying it with power and intent.
There's two of this video!
@RamseyDewey
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There are two of these comments. What are you talking about?
Because they themselves don't know how to fight, or maybe they're lazy, or maybe they don't care and just want to make a quick buck