Why Don't Men Leave Abusive Women?

by: Dr. Tara Palmatier, PsyD - www.shrink4men.com
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The reasons men and women don’t leave abusive relationships have some similarities and some differences. Abused men, like abused women, often stay due to family of origin issues, codependency, trauma bonds, FOG (fear, obligation, guilt), children, money and religion. There are also significant differences why abused men don’t leave their abusive partners. In my clinical experience, the seven most common reasons abused men don’t leave are . . .
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  • @pavanatanaya
    @pavanatanaya5 жыл бұрын

    I stayed, humiliated, degraded, gaslighted , cheated on. When the discard came, I didn't know who I was anymore. It's been four years now and I am still unable to trust

  • @erikjohansson6579

    @erikjohansson6579

    5 жыл бұрын

    You can still make it!

  • @simonbuschhorn6721

    @simonbuschhorn6721

    5 жыл бұрын

    Shit, I had an BPD with 28 and another one with 34. It's hard.

  • @deweys

    @deweys

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sorry dude :(

  • @Jacquesio

    @Jacquesio

    4 жыл бұрын

    You are a good person and deserve to be loved. I hope the best for you!

  • @donaldghiata4021

    @donaldghiata4021

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't trust anyone. Society and people taught me to be that way by neglecting and abusing me. I'm 70 years old and have been abused by people all my life..... There are many abused people in this world....it's disgusting !!!!

  • @NuclearNoMore
    @NuclearNoMore5 жыл бұрын

    "Abuse isn't a gender issue."

  • @tooclxchrichiiie1236

    @tooclxchrichiiie1236

    3 жыл бұрын

    Finally..Someone had to say it

  • @broGabiza
    @broGabiza5 жыл бұрын

    When my ex-wife was leaving the marital home to file divorce, she called me every derogatory word under the sun hoping that I would get upset and beat her up or something. I just laughed it off because it sounded pathetic. If I had reacted, I would have never seen my kids again after the court proceedings. Be careful guys if you are married to a pathological narc or borderline

  • @BoltUpright190

    @BoltUpright190

    5 жыл бұрын

    Oh I get it man. I salute your strength and restraint. When I evicted my psychotic ex-GF from my house, I had to endure 30 days of vandalism, theft, and endless attempts to provoke conflict, knowing that if I lost my cool just once, the consequences would be horrific. I ended up putting cameras throughout my house and staying within their view at all times until she was gone.

  • @intipampa

    @intipampa

    5 жыл бұрын

    Both of you are very smart men

  • @Flyboi2G

    @Flyboi2G

    5 жыл бұрын

    broGabiza you are on it boss. Thank God that i escaped also. I was getting hit on and was being blamed for the way things were going. No man deserves that type of treatment.?

  • @THANE_MITHRA

    @THANE_MITHRA

    4 жыл бұрын

    well played hands off laugh it off and live on .

  • @user-ul2ss1ve2h

    @user-ul2ss1ve2h

    4 жыл бұрын

    broGabiza thats exactly what im dealing with and it sucks men. She wants to get something out of me like an anger reaction. I also noticed she is reading what makes me angry hurts me she would attack that in every argument.

  • @andrewdavies7523
    @andrewdavies75235 жыл бұрын

    Why is it that women can not fathom that men do not want to leave their children and women use their kids against them

  • @eottoe2001

    @eottoe2001

    5 жыл бұрын

    Because there is a pervasive myth that men do not have feelings or are not in touch with their feeling so they do not have feelings. The truth is that we don't show our feelings like women show their feelings. We are very empathic with the people we care about.

  • @intipampa

    @intipampa

    5 жыл бұрын

    I stayed with my borderline/narcissistic ex wife for nearly 20 years for fear of getting divorce raped and put on child support and not being able to see my kids. The icing on the cake was she alienated the kids against me and put them up to filing a restraining order against me on her behalf naming her as the person to be protected under bogus charges. When I went to the hearing I got lucky and had a judge who had the presence of mind to see that it was all bullshit and dismissed the case and the judge in question was one of those black mama judges that don't fuck around. She was honestly shocked to see such a case and had to consult a family law attorney before proceeding.

  • @_agapedaily

    @_agapedaily

    4 жыл бұрын

    intipampa I’m in this situation and I’m terrified of her alienating my son from me which she constantly assures me she will do if we end the relationship. I have alienated myself from my own family and I feel trapped by my bond to my son but I don’t even know who I am anymore as a result of staying. It’s a constant cycle of abuse and I’m constantly questioning my own existence because I feel dead inside but I have no one to talk to about this and she does a great job of portraying herself as a flaw less human being to the world.

  • @EW-uw7dg

    @EW-uw7dg

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@_agapedaily You should record her as much as you can. Build your case, she is already telling you what she is gonna do so be ready. Record every chance you get. You dont have to live like that and its not healthy for your son. Would she be willing to go to counseling with you? She needs some intervention.

  • @wayne6317

    @wayne6317

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm going through that i don't know what to do, the law is a little bias to men which is understandable but she basically says if we divorce she takes my boy.

  • @Chosen1one1
    @Chosen1one13 жыл бұрын

    My wife physically abused me in the parking lot of our new apartment we just moved in 4 days ago. I didn’t fight back, I left.

  • @shrink4men

    @shrink4men

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad you got out of there.

  • @Chosen1one1

    @Chosen1one1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Shrink4Men - Dr. Tara J. Palmatier, PsyD thank you for your video, it’s been a really difficult time for me but you’re video really made me like someone cared. Thank you so much

  • @mariajmc6557

    @mariajmc6557

    3 жыл бұрын

    Praise God

  • @artmeacademywiththesaltyse9537
    @artmeacademywiththesaltyse95373 жыл бұрын

    This is awesome. As a man abused by a narc wife for over 25 yrs I needed to hear this. 30 days out no contact, life looks sweet ahead.

  • @officialtmpwavesmedia8753

    @officialtmpwavesmedia8753

    2 жыл бұрын

    25 years mate? God bless you.

  • @TaiopS

    @TaiopS

    2 жыл бұрын

    man how did u handle, I dont survive two weeks i fight emotionally back.

  • @jimp9151

    @jimp9151

    2 жыл бұрын

    Me too. 24 years. I stayed because of the following reasons: 1. I loved the image of who she portrayed herself as (the mask), which turned out to be a complete fabrication as I slowly discovered. 2. We have a daughter, and I wanted her to have two parents in the house till she went away to college. 3. My religious obligations/guilt. 4. My personality is to resolve and fix problems, not run away from them. 5. She guilt tripped, gaslighted, and manipulated me into thinking the majority of the issues were my fault. I did NOT stay because I feared being alone, or that no one would want me, nor for financial reasons.

  • @nopcshere6097

    @nopcshere6097

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh wow dude, I hear you. I am glad you are away from that awfulness. I was also married to a narcissistic wife for only 9 years, and the abuse she and her narcissistic elderly mother directed at me (emotional, verbal and financial) left me wanting to kill myself. Like you I got away after 9 years of that HELL, and have never been happier. About a year and a half later I met a woman who is the love of my life and we now have a wonderful life together. It IS possible to have a life after an abusive marriage.

  • @WeStripe

    @WeStripe

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jimp9151 wow just read this and felt like I could of wrote this but I'm still in it my daughter is 4... I really commend you for sticking around and I imagine you did what I'm doing and committing to knowing I'm here for my daughter. I have been seeing a councillor and it's unbelievable when you realize you have been gaslighted, manipulated and it becomes circles once you start to step back and realize

  • @ShaWA1
    @ShaWA15 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this. When I left my abusive ex I lost everything, because I'm a man, and I'm labeled that I abandoned the family.

  • @shrink4men

    @shrink4men

    5 жыл бұрын

    Adults aren't abandoned; they're left. You didn't abandon your kids either. Unless the court screwed you, kids have two homes after divorce. One with dad and one with mom.

  • @Thetimeisntcomingback

    @Thetimeisntcomingback

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ah yes. I left once. Came back because I thought I could make it work, and I missed my son. Her behavior has gotten worse, and she will not let go that I abandoned her when I left the first time. She literally doesn’t see what she does. She’s perfectly fine and laughing twenty minutes after going off on me for me no reason. I’m going to leave again, but do not know how. I have no family willing to help me because they are just like my wife.

  • @Lothnar5070

    @Lothnar5070

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Thetimeisntcomingback Fuck me dude, you're describing my situation to a T. I've now left for the second time after doing exactly what you're trying, she was too much and like that women you're with, can't see her own faults. Narcissistic behaviour on steroids'

  • @Grinningpicker00
    @Grinningpicker005 жыл бұрын

    Wow really someone is speaking up for men that’s not a man.. thank you.

  • @ryanlo1164
    @ryanlo11644 жыл бұрын

    Wow. It's so refreshing to see that a woman is capable of acknowledging that men are often quiet victims. An abusive spouse can really destroy her husband in so many ways. I appreciate your video.

  • @FirstLast-dd5bx
    @FirstLast-dd5bx3 жыл бұрын

    I believe that "suck it up" is basically what all men are taught from a young age.

  • @gerardorivera4127
    @gerardorivera41273 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for speaking about abusive women. Not all women are abusive. Men need to learn how to spot abusive relationships and how to leave. This phenomenon needs to spoken about openly so men can be supported. This abuse needs to end.

  • @nopcshere6097

    @nopcshere6097

    2 жыл бұрын

    You are SO RIGHT. I was abused by a narcissistic wife and her equally narcissistic mother for most of my 9 year marriage. But after escaping that hell I always believed that not all women are abusive - there ARE good ones out there. I know this is true because I met one who is now the love of my life.

  • @natekendall1976
    @natekendall1976 Жыл бұрын

    Because she has my children and constantly threatens me with police and stop me seeing my kids. I'm broken, lost and I don't want to be here anymore but I can't do that to my kids. I don't know what to do 😭 im so tired. I work 12 hours a day 6 days a week, come in and cook and clean or look after the kids so she gets a break. When I bring up how she is being she slates me, calls me all sorts and calls me a little victim but if I do stand up for myself she threatens me with arrest. I am so exhausted. I wish I had someone who appreciated me.

  • @jeandaugherty830
    @jeandaugherty8305 жыл бұрын

    After 20 years of suffering i finally discovered you and others who described the horrific abuse and parental alientation i was suffering from 99% of therapists are worthless There is NO SOCIAL acknowledgement of the trauma im trying to enjoy whats left of my life

  • @reck0n3r

    @reck0n3r

    5 жыл бұрын

    Jean Daugherty At the end of the day, it's up to us to take responsibility for our own lives - this is the lesson we learn by constantly giving away our power to "professionals" whose primary aim is NOT to heal you, but to make money. You're right, most therapists are probably trash, and there are many reasons as to why, but there ARE some amazing ones out there who help serve as guides, like Dr. T, and we should celebrate and support them (financially and otherwise) when we get the chance. Men also need to start reclaiming responsibility in their lives. The more we awaken to the fact that we, ourselves, are putting ourselves in relationships with undeserving women, the happier and more in control of your life you will feel, rather than always pulling the victim card. When we know we're in control of our lives, our psyche's become more robust and dynamic, being able to incorporate new or conflicting information from our experiences in ways that facilitate growth. These times serve as your awakening, boys. Don't squander the lessons, lest you remain in hells of your own creation. Take some responsibilty for your actions and ask yourself what you learned. Because if you don't learn, you'll keep making the same dumb mistakes and blaming everyone else, instead of adjusting and enjoying life. Seek truth. Know thyself. Question everything.

  • @normanp.chesterton7397

    @normanp.chesterton7397

    5 жыл бұрын

    People act like it's normal for women to be psycho.

  • @jk3letsgo

    @jk3letsgo

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@normanp.chesterton7397 it's true, I know 2 young men whose girlfriends physically abused them & called the cops..guess who went to jail? Both of these men had black eyes or some kind of mark and didn't hit the woman. People need to be educated on this desperately, what's really disturbing is they have children and will be medicated when their 7 for ADD, I believe they can't handle the stress & abuse themselves. How do you think these kids will develope over time?

  • @centraln.westend6414

    @centraln.westend6414

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@jk3letsgo ,its a continuation, I believe if u grow up with two parents an one is abusing the another an these kids grow up seeing dat its possible dat they will grow up being abusive aswell or worse,sorry dats how it goes down,if the daddy beating on the mother most likely da son will turn out like dat ,or if the mother is physically or mentally abusive the daughter's may turn out the same way ,its sad but it's not love.

  • @centraln.westend6414

    @centraln.westend6414

    5 жыл бұрын

    True dat James true dat,I'm a 53 year older an it's sad wen u get wheeled in an get abused by a female an it happened to me just recently, everything was fine till I helped her wit rent an filled up her refrigerator an a week later dis bitch started trippn before I beat her ass I just packed my shit an moved on I was homeless 4 a day an moved back in my old house ,she talked me into moving with her an I'm thinkn ok an da grass was not green lol cause it snowed after dat ,but God is so good an everything's go b alright ,dat was da last time I fall 4 dat cause NOW MY HEART HAS TURNED VERY COLD!!!!

  • @BenGlasser79
    @BenGlasser794 жыл бұрын

    It is soooooo good to hear this. I've had all of these same thoughts, especially the fear of loosing my kids. I've felt so alone with this.

  • @Thetimeisntcomingback

    @Thetimeisntcomingback

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ben Glasser me too. I feel you. I’m afraid to leave. My son is now displaying signs from this bpd mom. It’s awful. I fear that if I leave, he will be in danger in the long run. Never physically, but more psychological and emotional abuse. At this point, I want to die. I’m sorry to hear you’re going through this.

  • @ilseihs4336

    @ilseihs4336

    4 жыл бұрын

    I know this was posted months ago, but as the child in this situation I completely understand why fathers would be afraid to leave toxic relationships. I can't imagine living without my father, he's the only real emotional support i have. Its incredibly hard to live with an abusive mother, but it would be worse if I didn't have my dad as a buffer.

  • @mr.blulights1165

    @mr.blulights1165

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not alone bro.

  • @mr.blulights1165

    @mr.blulights1165

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ilseihs4336 I plan to do the same with my daughter god bless yall

  • @santoparfano1910

    @santoparfano1910

    3 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely 💯. Im in the same boat with you all...still married. Im staying for my kids and bc im the only emotional support they have. Plus I've stayed too bc of trauma bonding lovebombing/devalue games. I believed her lies but no more...I see through the fog. Its crushed my self esteem. Im started setting healthy boundaries but its making things worse. Everything you say dr. Tara has been life for 25 years... Our therapist actually recommemded that I radically accept her behavior!!! God bless fellas...

  • @davidstevens4392
    @davidstevens43924 жыл бұрын

    Everything you said in this video describes my marriage 100% I literally broke down and cried the whole time. I'm so lost in all this but your words really helped. Me knowing there are others like this and I'm not just some crazy. Thank you I'll be watching more

  • @dannyboy8257

    @dannyboy8257

    3 жыл бұрын

    Stay strong bro there are good woman out there you will find 1

  • @user-nx1vh4ej9q

    @user-nx1vh4ej9q

    3 жыл бұрын

    hope you're doing better

  • @sknight3946
    @sknight39465 жыл бұрын

    I am a female survivor of an abusive marriage, and I agree with the content of this video 100%!! My second husband of 17 years suffered through nearly all the all abusive behaviors sited in this video during his first marriage and also following the end of it at the hands of his ex. His ex ended up discarding him and then turning his children against him as he attempted to advocate for their educational disabilities through the courts--which triggered her narcissistic wounds. All hell broke loose and every narcissistic trick was pulled out to punish and destroy him and me as the step-mom. My care-taking and loving husband ended up suffering nearly EVERY humiliation Dr. Palmatier speaks of here. Destructive, morally bereft and seemingly chaotic narcissistic behavior is actually quite predictable for the most part and navigational if you EDUCATE yourself (and get therapy for your own codependence)! Thank you for advocating for good men--It is so needed!!!

  • @andrisstanga5938

    @andrisstanga5938

    5 жыл бұрын

    And thank you for sharing this. Honestly, it has gotten to the point where a lot of men have the same kind of knee-jerk reaction as women do and that the good Dr explained at the beginning of this video. Men are really tired to the core of their beings of constantly being portrayed as monsters who are only a moment away from raping or beating up the nearest female, no matter how young or how old. Now that we are living under a matriarchal tyranny, even trying to call out for help only brings more derision and danger to a man. It really is that bad. When did the heart of nations (I am in UK, and it can be just as bad here) and of women turn to stone, and only icy stares are offered to men who may be in desperate need. Oh, that's right. They're men. That means God made them capable of taking all the abuse and torture and violence, and if they do not act grateful for it, then that is because they reveal that they are toxic patriarchal monsters and should be castrated, or euthenised... No, I am not exaggerating. Wish that I was. But I am not going to kick out in anger. I am going to thank you - because the more like you there are - and the more vocal you become - the more there will be a chance to end this insanity and bring back a world that is actually worth living in.

  • @Hurdler2001
    @Hurdler20015 жыл бұрын

    A close relative of mine is currently in an abusive relationship with a women I suspect is either Narcissistic or Borderline. It is heartbreaking to watch from the sidelines.

  • @dsmith9103
    @dsmith91034 жыл бұрын

    You have just summed up every reason why I can't leave my abusive wife.....worried about the kids, how she will treat them, kids will blame me for everything

  • @user-nx1vh4ej9q

    @user-nx1vh4ej9q

    3 жыл бұрын

    how is it now?

  • @tilakhr

    @tilakhr

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi bro, hope you are doing better. I am going through same problems, and am feeling the same like you. I have successfully left her, but not yet divorced. I fear for my child. My son is everything to me, but she is holding him hostage.

  • @npkrn6764

    @npkrn6764

    7 ай бұрын

    If your kids are very young, they'll mature...and when they do, they should be intelligent enough to realize the truth.

  • @spankybravo9403
    @spankybravo94033 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Doc, I have been in a toxic, abusive relationship for going on 9 years (on and off) I am 29 years old sleeping on my moms couch once again because I was kicked out of our home once again for suggesting that my daughters mother should be a nicer to daddy. Every time I walk in the door she completely dismantles my self esteem. My daughters mother is a serial cheater....she cheated on me more times than I would like to remember, more times than she can even remember. She got pregnant one of these times and she had me believing the child was mine for the first year of her life until her true biological father(the dude she was cheating on me with) got full custody. All of which was done entirely behind my back...so one day my daughter was just taken away from me and her sister randomly only to find out the child was not even mine...somehow I stuck around. Mainly because my daughter (5yrs)traumatically lost her sister randomly one day, and she has only seen her once since. I wanted to try to make her life as “normal” as possible by any means necessary. When I’ve spoken with on my daughter about mommy and daddy living separately she thinks that she’s never going to see us again like her baby sister. With all that said, and that’s just the tip of the iceberg believe me, I am determined to never go back to my toxic ex ever again. This is not the first time, but god willing it will be the last. I wasted my entire 20s living in an abusive relationship I refuse to waste my 30s living in that same hell. Thank you doctor for making me feel understood and not so alone.

  • @krisgravender8451
    @krisgravender84512 жыл бұрын

    I know I'm late to this, but thank you. I am still in the middle of a now over 3 year divorce from my abusive ex. All of the fears you mentioned were part of my decision and many are coming true. I fought for my relationship for a number of years enduring emotional, sexual, and even physical abuse, all while trying to defend my kids from it as well. I am now a felon because when I finally kicked her out she attacked me and I restrained her. She even admitted to the attack, but because I admitted that I restrained her I'm the bad guy and had to be arrested and punished. I lost my teaching career and stand to lose much more because she said I hurt her. I've often argued why there is so much to help abused women, but only anger management classes for abused men.

  • @thiccredgyal3404

    @thiccredgyal3404

    10 ай бұрын

    Society seems to assume that women are innocent victims

  • @jeanmm6823

    @jeanmm6823

    6 ай бұрын

    I feel for you that you lost your career 😔 Perhaps you can build something from your pain and turn it into your success.

  • @u3962521
    @u39625212 жыл бұрын

    huge thankyou. when googling abusive women online dating all that came up was stories about abusive men to women. and all the comments switched off... its a real targeted approach to label just men as abusive.

  • @AlbertoZambrano
    @AlbertoZambrano3 жыл бұрын

    I so identify with this I’m a victim of abuse: I’ve been arrested, lost my job and career because of character assassination campaigns; and i c an’t see my child, went to court, and lost everything, tried to kill myself and managed to keep alive. There’s no support where I live. This kept me up thank u I am struggling

  • @BadBuddhaPhotography
    @BadBuddhaPhotography3 жыл бұрын

    Just hearing this I broke down crying, thank you for this acknowledgement

  • @midnightrunner0478
    @midnightrunner04785 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Dr T. You nailed it. I was packing my bags and planning to leave before I realized she has been gone for three years. I felt most of the things you described. I don’t know if this is common but I had the belief that men are tough enough to endure whatever a woman could do to me. Bites, scratches, bruises, your a man, you can take it, suck it up, it didn’t even hurt. It would be a sign of weakness to admit that she was able to hurt me. My thinking was so screwed up. One more thing. I heard a group of men talking one day about a man that had committed suicide. They all bragged about how they would never do something like that because of a woman. Men and women need to wake you to this abuse and stop guilting people into staying quiet about it. It’s not a gender thing. Thanks again!

  • @ronaldmartino2610
    @ronaldmartino26105 жыл бұрын

    I wish I had seen one of your videos years ago. You appear to have been living in my house for all 28 years of my marriage. I commented on one of your other videos. This is going to be quite a journey. Thank God all the children age 28 to 36, 3 from a previous marriage are grown up and it's just the two of us left. They all show signs of my wife's abuse due to alcoholism and narcissism. My liberation has only just begun. Thank you for this enlightenment.

  • @johannesvonsaaz3987
    @johannesvonsaaz39876 ай бұрын

    Wow, I'm so glad to have come across this. I never felt so worthless, alone, angry and disappointed in my life. Thank you so much for this. You're saving lives

  • @badirks5549
    @badirks55495 жыл бұрын

    Yes! Recognizing men does not take away from women. The woman's movement seems a little narcissistic, borderline and hysterical....sometimes.🤔

  • @mgu1N1n1
    @mgu1N1n13 жыл бұрын

    best thing I did in my adult lifetime was put a restraining order on her. Men, protect yourselves.

  • @gatheringleaves
    @gatheringleaves4 жыл бұрын

    This is so true. My former sister in law is currently getting divorced from my older brother and despite she being the one who had alcohol and drug abuse problems, she's the one who's been awarded custody of their daughter and I can't believe how messed up that is!

  • @hailla97
    @hailla972 жыл бұрын

    I am a female and a dv survivor myself. When i saw how a male friend was treatec after he was abuseed that lead to a hospital stay. It made me sick!! I've been wanting to open a shelter for men for years now but I have no money to start one or even know where to start.

  • @really5453

    @really5453

    9 ай бұрын

    Look into grants

  • @polaire801
    @polaire8015 жыл бұрын

    Hey Tara, the one thing that killed me was my level of denial. The clues of deception were there once I looked. I think we all take the power of denial for granted. Thanks again for the info. It’s helped me understand a lot of what I experienced in my previous relationship.

  • @codycoffman4080
    @codycoffman40804 жыл бұрын

    This is the first time I’ve felt understood in a long time. Thank you.

  • @russell4824
    @russell48243 жыл бұрын

    My BPD wife of 27 years left in a year ago July. This is what it was like for me. Her love was the Promised Land and I was eager to prove my devotion. Together we wandering in the desert for many years, looking for the lush green forest at the edge of a lake, where surrounded by snow-capped mountains she could find peace and purpose. I brought plenty of food and water which never seemed to quench her thirst or satisfy a hunger she could not describe. Occasionally we came upon an oasis where I was content and happy. In time, once again the spring would go dry and we would resume the search, each time in a new direction. I am now very weary, our water supply a burden I no longer wish to carry. I tap into the last reserves of inner strength to stumble onward in this barren landscape, gripped by a fear of what is beyond the ever shifting dunes ahead. The blazing sun is high over-head, so I no longer have my bearings, but once again, there on the horizon a patch of green. Her enchanting song once again draws me to Bristol Cove on the lake in the mountains. We lay down together in the cool green grass, but I soon realize, once again it's an illusion. Like a mirage, in a blink of an eye, it all vanishes and this time she too is gone. I realize I've lost the faith, I must give up the quest and turn back, no longer sure of the way home. The sun has set and in the darkness I cannot resist the urge to look over my shoulder with each uncertain step. It has become second nature to worry about her, I will always feel her pain and hunger, her loneliness in the void. I am overwhelmed with an unfamiliar sensation and try to accept I no longer have the power to rescue her from the discontent she has felt her whole life, even worse, I realize the arrogance to think I ever could. At the same time I try to erase the image that she may have found the forest without me and is swimming in the cool clear water. I think "how weak of me to have given up" and in the knowledge that I will never see her again, what am I to do with the love I still have for her. It pours out onto the dry sand and evaporates without purpose. The witness of my existence now gone, my heart is tormented by waves of sorrow, like the breakers of some ancient sea crashing on a rocky shore. The primeval granite reduced to particles of sand, now long forgotten, so too will our story be relegated to a footnote, then fade on the parchment of time with each passing generation. I pry upon the wind, hoping to hear her sweet voice one last time, the words of the promised land as she whispers, "I now know he truly love me". I imagine her weeping with the thought "how could I have been blind for all those years, we should have found paradise together". It was a leap of faith she was unable to take, inflected with an invisible wound, suffered alone in her cradle so many years ago, long before her happiness become the purpose of my life. Our special place by the lake will forever remain lost beyond the horizon and when she or I, the last of what was once “us” departs this terrestrial existence, no one will say “they were in love and are together again”.

  • @jingmok

    @jingmok

    6 ай бұрын

    Hi Russell, your beautiful prose moved me so deeply. You can use this same creative mind and depth of soul to imagine a spirit so expansive that you rewrite the narrative. I believe in your inner power, it starts with a seed you plant in your psyche. As a fellow romantic, I discovered that true love needs to be in a certain dose - redefine it based on a heaven on Earth and not an otherworldly ideal. Let your mind’s constructs be a worthy reflection of reality and you will find understanding.

  • @Strider9655
    @Strider96559 ай бұрын

    In these situations EVERYONE blames the man, and this collective gaslighting makes it difficult to get out of the situation.

  • @gerrieklijzing3198
    @gerrieklijzing31985 жыл бұрын

    One therapist told me "where two fight two are guilty", after being alienated. I felt abused by her as well.

  • @jloren4647

    @jloren4647

    4 жыл бұрын

    Therapy needs a serious overhaul. They know which side their bread is buttered on. Honest critique and anything other than blaming the man results in losing the client.

  • @coachkris2200
    @coachkris22004 жыл бұрын

    THIS!!!! We need a bigger spotlight on this topic please! -A Mom

  • @jefftube58
    @jefftube589 ай бұрын

    It is worked into the fabric of our culture to support women who claim to have been abused by a man, but virtually nothing exists to help men who have been abused by a woman. Even pastors of churches won't touch that one.

  • @daleouellette2653
    @daleouellette26534 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. I have already had my kids blocked from me with a false protection order and my x was the one that hit me.

  • @vegeta8169
    @vegeta81695 жыл бұрын

    For me it was because I didn't understand that I needed to leave instead of trying to make it better. Thanks for the training mum🤤

  • @kevinthomas2906

    @kevinthomas2906

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's most of us men

  • @taketime0626

    @taketime0626

    4 жыл бұрын

    Vegeta this sounds like my son at the moment. I’m here trying to find help in supporting him now that he has finally left. It’s so sad to see how “torn down” he is 😢.

  • @mr.blulights1165
    @mr.blulights11653 жыл бұрын

    The mother of my child hits me. Like in tha face punch. It was like 4 times but thats not ok. I didn't cheat or anything. Paid all the rent and bills work as much as I can. Take care of most things so she doesn't have to. Yet she said i was worthless and that I was pathetic and lazy. Im a monster in her eyes and apparently pretty stupid too. I can't take it anymore day in and day out so I just left her. I'll take care of my child but I can't be around someone who is dehumanizing me or threatening me by taking my soon to be child away. I took care of almost everything. And spent so much money. And now I'm broke and she has my wallet because she locked me out of our apt when I was getting some clothes together for work and whatever thr next few days. I paid 800 for and apt I got kicked out of and treated like trash.

  • @RunDCM
    @RunDCM4 жыл бұрын

    Why don't I leave? Because she'll get everything and I will get stuck paying. Just last week she wacked me with my daughter's shoe while I was on my knees picking up the mess she deliberately left on the floor. Today she yelled at me to cut the shrubs as soon as I walked in the house. When I said "I just walked in" she replied in an insane way yelling and cursing. She even came at me when I told her to get away. I left the house because I don't want my daughter seeing this. When I told her to stop swearing she said, "fuck fuck fuck fuck".

  • @cooket12

    @cooket12

    4 жыл бұрын

    I can so relate to that.

  • @MusicBobAllan
    @MusicBobAllan5 жыл бұрын

    I can’t express enough how much of a legend you are DR T!!!! Thank you so much again for helping close the alienation window most of us men feel who have been alienated from our kids!

  • @MusicBobAllan
    @MusicBobAllan5 жыл бұрын

    I have seriously wanted to die!!! I absolutely love women and would be the 1st in their corner! But being a dad absolutely kills me in family court!

  • @ericwolf9482
    @ericwolf94824 жыл бұрын

    I asked her to leave. I got the children. My children begged me to Divorce there Mother.. It was.a matter of timing.. She is very much accurate. It was a step up for me.

  • @staciday8921
    @staciday89214 жыл бұрын

    Nice! Thank you! My ex just left me 3 weeks ago to go back his kids mom. His ex kept the kids away from him for 2 years which was the time we were together! His kids mom stabbed him and hit him in the head with a iron and also called the police and told them he molested their daughter! And I wasnt hurt he went back to her. I was more upset of how he did it!! We were together on a friday he was gone on a Saturday!! After 2 years. He left we NO CONTACT !! So If i didnt see them together in the store i would have never known!! But i do understand he wanted to be in his kids life

  • @peterweber4094
    @peterweber40942 жыл бұрын

    Yes, this needed to be said. Thank you!

  • @juicymomentum
    @juicymomentum5 жыл бұрын

    Dr. Palmatier, Well done. Thanks for this valuable explanation. I appreciate your work and stewardship.

  • @7Earthsky
    @7Earthsky3 жыл бұрын

    The video should have 10 million views but it goes to show how ignorant the world is on such matters.

  • @LaunceBugbee
    @LaunceBugbee5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you! I left and moved far away, leaving my daughter behind with her mother... her mother was physically and verbally abusive. I moved to Seattle, only to find there's zero help for Male DV victims.

  • @OrlandoOntiveros
    @OrlandoOntiveros5 жыл бұрын

    Exactly, violence and abuse is wrong wether it's inflicted on Women or Men. In my country there's a department for something like "abused women and family orientation", No other option. I might be the only guy that has filed a case against an abusive obsesive borderline girl who made life hell ! Thanks Dr. T. It's been a few years now. I keep attracting crazy, but at least now I can see the code of "the matrix" thanks to you...

  • @jaconova

    @jaconova

    5 жыл бұрын

    I salute your boldness. Is time to start speaking up against abuse by women!!!

  • @lucatcb
    @lucatcb5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Dr. T.! Much esteem from Italy 🙂

  • @danarchambault8723
    @danarchambault87235 жыл бұрын

    Your videos just keep getting better and better

  • @MaxxxStageLife
    @MaxxxStageLife3 жыл бұрын

    This was my newly ex wife to a T. I really needed this to understand that Im not crazy that my ex did this to me as well as turning the step children on me when their own bio dad lives 3 miles away and has never been involved

  • @MaxxxStageLife

    @MaxxxStageLife

    3 жыл бұрын

    I just wish i had someone to help me through all this but sadly im the first in my family to divorce in 30 years.. Now im the #BlackSheep

  • @vamosajugarpelota
    @vamosajugarpelota3 жыл бұрын

    This is scaringly accurate thanks!

  • @joshantor
    @joshantor5 жыл бұрын

    Happy to see you put out video content all of a sudden (I don't have much time for reading nowadays). You're a really good presenter!

  • @Kalessin12
    @Kalessin124 жыл бұрын

    Thanks god is a woman who is saying this, men and women have to support each other against abuse.

  • @rprnorg
    @rprnorg5 жыл бұрын

    I'm happy to see you making videos. Your advice has been so useful to me over the years.

  • @shrink4men

    @shrink4men

    5 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome, Richard. Glad to have been of help.

  • @checazzovolete
    @checazzovolete2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for bringing this up Dr. Tara. I was in an abusive marriage for over 12 years, she was the one leaving as I was too weak to react. On a daily basis: Derogatory words, gas-lighting, lies, infidelity, humiliation in front of friends / family, police arrests, you name it. She ticks every box as a narcissist. Now in my late 40's, the damage is immense. My self image and feeling of self worth are so destroyed I hardly believe I will ever regain them back. Depression and anxiety set in. I feel like I have been raped, emotionally. Imagine a woman that has been raped, what it did to her. It's C-PTSD alla grande. Alone for 3 years now, I cannot even imagine ever getting close to a woman again, dating for me seems far like trying to reach the andromeda galaxy on foot. even female friends are hard for me to handle. Also like you mention Dr., the system doesn't take too seriously abused men, you are looked down upon and judged, not to mention the legal system that IS biased towards women, and men almost always find them selves on the short end of the deal. As with any abusive relationship, Whomever you may be: man/woman/lgbt/alien. If it is that, LEAVE. Don't end up like me, you might be broken beyond repair.

  • @mikelazzara7773
    @mikelazzara77733 жыл бұрын

    To answer the title of the video. BECAUSE I HAVE NO WHERE TO GO.

  • @lesthanrocketscience1828
    @lesthanrocketscience18284 жыл бұрын

    This hits so many nails right on the head! There are all of 2 mens shelters in the country, last i heard

  • @Marcelube
    @Marcelube5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much, Dr. Tara!!! You are a beautiful person and a beautiful woman. s2

  • @dereks3kds
    @dereks3kds5 жыл бұрын

    this video is painful but needed .. hits home in a major way .. Thank you Dr. T

  • @shrink4men

    @shrink4men

    5 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome.

  • @pngproductions8529
    @pngproductions852910 ай бұрын

    My mother, was extremely abusive to herself, me, anyone close to her and the men in her life. Anyone who says women , cant be abusive, need to think again.

  • @David-ot9tr
    @David-ot9tr3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for acknowledging these truths.

  • @oscar01mac59
    @oscar01mac595 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your channel feel I have a path to freedom now I have found your channel you make it so clear whats going on 9 years wasted on this person and they could not care less of the pain they brought to my door ! Many thanks for your work

  • @jefftube58
    @jefftube589 ай бұрын

    Thank you, Dr. Tara !

  • @stuartpeskett1514
    @stuartpeskett15145 жыл бұрын

    Many thanks for the input Tara. It was very helpful.

  • @shawngarcia9000
    @shawngarcia90005 жыл бұрын

    OMG thank you so much for addressing this. I am literally going through this right now. I am a step father and she uses the kids to manipulate me in a never ending cycle of arguing and blame. I will definitely be emailing you to have a session. Your videos have opened my eyes over the past few days. I have genuinely been questioning my own sanity. Im starting to understand. Thank you so much. You are a godsend.

  • @makaylahollywood3677
    @makaylahollywood36773 жыл бұрын

    Excellent and important information. Thank you!!

  • @kilpel2
    @kilpel25 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for these videos, so straight on.👍

  • @tonyagnew5739
    @tonyagnew57395 жыл бұрын

    This is spot on.

  • @josephrumpolo7328
    @josephrumpolo73285 жыл бұрын

    GREAT VIDEO DOC.....YOUR THE BEST!!!!!!

  • @scottc177
    @scottc1775 жыл бұрын

    It’s been my experience that women have their own police force to use at any whim as well

  • @1o1carolina53
    @1o1carolina53 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for being balanced fair and honest. I truly respect your content and delivery

  • @candyman5912
    @candyman59124 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video. And very true!

  • @hollywoodhawkins9730
    @hollywoodhawkins97304 жыл бұрын

    This channel is pure gold

  • @catwilk8213
    @catwilk82135 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so so much for this video!!

  • @priestsandkings5392
    @priestsandkings53923 жыл бұрын

    This is very insightful! We need to hear this from somewhere because society makes all those bias comments and make it so much harder to leave the toxic relationship Along with religion

  • @richardsullivan5987
    @richardsullivan59875 жыл бұрын

    Great Video, thanks Dr T. By the way, I'm now out the other side of an horifically abusive relationship with a BPD woman and your book 'Say Goodbye to Crazy' was excellent, saved my sanity on a number of occasions, has ultimately helped me to recover from the nightmare and maintain a regular and great relationship with my son. Anyone else out there being emotionally and mentally tortured by a BPD woman, buy the book, read the book, keep the faith, hang tough and watch Dr T's videos. It is survivable, I'm still here and have said goodbye to my Crazy (or at least have so reduced her impact on me to the point I can get on with my own life again).

  • @gogobandid
    @gogobandid5 жыл бұрын

    WOW. just so true. thank you for speaking the truth Tara. You have helped me through the years and i appreciate it, and your work. thank you :-)

  • @shrink4men

    @shrink4men

    5 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome. That's very kind of you.

  • @TRUEGAMING1989
    @TRUEGAMING19895 жыл бұрын

    She is so understanding 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

  • @jonboy19823
    @jonboy198232 жыл бұрын

    This is brilliant, you have really hit the nail on the head here..

  • @user-uq9rs8mr4w
    @user-uq9rs8mr4w5 ай бұрын

    Omg. I’m amazed how you actually describe it perfectly. I’ve lived it for 40 years. Thankyou.

  • @drowsykevent.7102
    @drowsykevent.71023 жыл бұрын

    I can’t leave her she’s my mother

  • @piotr_jurkiewicz
    @piotr_jurkiewicz2 жыл бұрын

    Very professional :) I's not so often to watch such material on this site. Thanks!

  • @thechaostrials1964
    @thechaostrials19649 ай бұрын

    Thank you. It high time that people started accepting the uncomfortable truth that a large percentage, if not the greater percentage, of Narcs are women. It's a survival tactic and encouraged by the larger culture and whatever-wave-of-feminism we are in now. I stayed in a abusive (in every sense of the word) "relationship" (more of a hostage situation) well past the expiration date. Sadly, almost two years out the pain lingers and I'm not the same person anymore. I'm terrified of women and people in general. And doubt I will ever let another person get anywhere near me.

  • @tomgillotti

    @tomgillotti

    8 ай бұрын

    I’m sorry you’ve gone through that. I hope there are better days ahead for you. Therapy helps. Consider giving it a try. Make sure you find someone who understands the type of things you’ve been through.

  • @ferrousdogma
    @ferrousdogma3 жыл бұрын

    We dont leave her because we care about her , even though shes impossible.

  • @stuzz3511
    @stuzz35115 жыл бұрын

    Your tree looks beautiful and your house seems HUGE! 😀 Love from Scotland 🙋✌

  • @rationalmale6265
    @rationalmale62652 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Dr. You are so saving men. Thank you. 🙏

  • @jezbezzer4277
    @jezbezzer42773 жыл бұрын

    Thank you I can relate so much to this ❤️💕💖

  • @darrenasphalt9133
    @darrenasphalt91334 жыл бұрын

    Tara, as a man, your about the only person who has given me the strength to finally end the Hell I have endured. I have been married to a borderline for 28 years. It would break my heart to think of her alone and uncared for, so i stayed. We also had 6 children together. We tried counseling, she charmed her way through it. She was finally diagnosed by 2 therapists with BPD. Yet there was no help or support for abused men. I would say, Im a man, I cant be abused, I will not be a victim. I still hold on to that belief, but I recognize the daily abuse happened and the affects it had on me, and the destruction of my self esteem. Our last child just flew the coop. Last week, i set boundries and told her she would need to have therapy to end the abuse or leave. Yesterday, she packed up the van and left. Its like a weight has been lifted. After 28 years, I have hope in the future and realize Im FREE!!!! Its like being released from prison. Im still angry that the abuse continued during that time because theres no support for men and the therapists are more apt to help men to stay and deal, and in my case, medicate me to be able to withstand the abuse. No support groups, yet support through the roof to end the abuse for women. Over 70 percent of suicides are men. Its a CRISIS. I almost joined them by buying rope to hang myself, and other plans just to end the pain. 28 years of hell on earth. I still love her. We built a family together, but Its not happening any more. Im filing divorce next week and excited for the future. Thank you Tara. Thank you, thank you.

  • @melbygosling890
    @melbygosling8903 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for saying "can we stop the whataboutisms! "Thank you for educating us all, men and women!

  • @hassanchop3622
    @hassanchop36223 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Dr. I appreciate all your content especially this on. It was on point and resonated with me.

  • @SaxonBlue
    @SaxonBlue3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for being real

  • @barbaramus
    @barbaramus Жыл бұрын

    I have a male friend in an abusive relationship. I have been trying to help and support him for a couple of years now, hoping he would leave her. Telling him he doesn't have to live this way...She manipulate and gaslight him, lies to him, blames him for everything in her life, stonewall's him ect.. She blew up at him recently and hit him .. He has how cut all ties to me and we don't speak anymore, because he is "Fighting for the relationship" :( What the hell can I do to help him?

  • @richardmetzger2574
    @richardmetzger25745 жыл бұрын

    I have been watching Cluster B related videos for a bit, and they were fine, but left something to be desired. ...but now I found you, and you bring the red pills the others lack. Congrats, you might be the best on KZread in this area.

  • @cynicallyyours61
    @cynicallyyours612 жыл бұрын

    Great video.

  • @void6752
    @void67523 жыл бұрын

    Simply if a woman hits me id hit back I’d make it clear that no woman shall abuse me I’d never put my hands on a woman unless she starts on me and I would sue her for domestic abuse and divorce her

  • @truthfactreality6814
    @truthfactreality68145 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video

  • @johnoreilly7115
    @johnoreilly71154 жыл бұрын

    I'm so thankful for finding your videos. I am going through all these things at the same time. I feel ashamed I'm begging my abuser to treat me like a person. To recognize me as a human being. Even though I keep winning in court, the narcissistic rage that comes with winning just a 50/50 custody split is almost amazing to witness. Want to have a really bad day? Bring up her non stop cheating during the marriage. You won't hear I'm sorry. Not ever. You will find out all the reasons you deserve to be cheated.