Would love to see Ford bring back the T-bird as a real Corvette competitor. Like a mid engine lower grade GT40.

@TerryTerius

4 жыл бұрын

Really, I'd love to see them introduce something like a "baby" GT that serves as a regular series production rival for the R8, 570s, and similar cars. They could leave it there if they wanted and ignore the space the Corvette occupies, not because I think it's unimportant but because that'd serve as a more aspirational price point. Then you could have something like the Thunderbird competing with the Corvette beneath that. That'd be a shot in the arm for American performance machines, much in the same way that Lincoln is trying to bring back the idea of luxury distinct from Germany's offerings.

@Loulovesspeed

4 жыл бұрын

@derek Graf - The Thunderbird took a decidedly different (and much more profitable) direction in 1958 by becoming a sport/luxury 4 seater, while the Corvette retained its 2 seater sports car layout. Ford tried to reintroduce the T-Bird in 2002, but it never really caught on with the buying public. If Ford decided to make a Corvette competitor, they would be much better off starting with a clean slate and new name.

@smoke-on-thetires7922

4 жыл бұрын

Backgammon I agree with you I think they should at least give it another attempt. If not the T-bird then make something new that could compete with it. With how far the mustang has come there’s no doubt in my mind that they could really give chevy a run for their money. Plus a little competition would help both vehicles become amazing products. I also think that ford should make the GT a little faster to make room for this new car in the lineup.

@al11220

4 жыл бұрын

Shelby GR1

@derkwayne1833

4 жыл бұрын

Something besides a variation of the Mustang platform.

Ford has a Corvette shaped hole in their lineup, and Chevy has a Ford GT shaped hole in their lineup.

@Codmaster4488

4 жыл бұрын

The C8 ZR1 is gonna have 900 horse power my guy

@azizfriha8381

4 жыл бұрын

@@Codmaster4488 the point of the gt is not to just have a fuckton of hp, its a legendary collectors car with great racing heritage thats made to compete in endurance racing

@sonicloud7774

4 жыл бұрын

@@zayuhtoven9295 Look just so you know, I am a Corvette C8 fan, and what you said sounds bonkers and real nice. The question is that will it be affordable to the working man at least.

@fnx333

4 жыл бұрын

Aziz Friha doesn’t the Corvette compete in the same class as the GT in endurance racing...

@DirtShark116

4 жыл бұрын

@@zayuhtoven9295 are you talking about the all electric 1400hp cobra jet? Yeah that isn't a street legal production car my guy.

"The Vipers dead" Hurts me every time I hear it

@kylep3514

2 жыл бұрын

Even as a Ford guy, it hurts me to some degree

“That’s a lot for the 60’s” Me: *thinking about how my 2000 mirage has 90hp*

Chevy doesn't have a ford gt competition either (Jesus christ , how many people took this seriously)

@nickleback3695

5 жыл бұрын

the corvette zr1 gets similar lap times despite being 3x cheaoer.

@thatgoodnutt6764

5 жыл бұрын

@@nickleback3695 kinda like mustangs

@eroy5448

5 жыл бұрын

Isnt the new mid engine corvette a gt competitor?

@kylethompson2431

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s does It’s called the “camaro” It’s fast Faster than Fix it all day Ford So Learn your facts And ford COPIED chevy so stop shitting on Chevy

@thatgoodnutt6764

5 жыл бұрын

@@kylethompson2431 thats a mustang competitor not a gt competitor

Seems like the majority of Corvette owners are 50-something men who buy the fanciest thing they can afford, and then drive it about as fast as a horse and buggy on a Sunday afternoon.

@FranciscoRamirez-up3vj

5 жыл бұрын

Lol agree with/you most vette drivers I've seen on the Rd look older folks

@jorgethiebaud7032

5 жыл бұрын

True.. trying to represent the young generation.. 27 with a C7 stingray.. but the demographic is way older than me usually

@toystoryjohn8457

5 жыл бұрын

19 with a shitty C4, its because they can finally afford one at 50 haha

@Dubz0408

5 жыл бұрын

29 with a C5Z. Cause I couldnt afford the C6Z with student loans. Guess I'll get one when im 50!

@MrHillbilly49

5 жыл бұрын

True! I once helped organize a race at the Palm Beach Fair Grounds. It was an event where you could run your street car if you wanted. We met with the local Corvette club and mentioned that people would be trying to go fast, they all looked at us like we just landed from Mars. Their idea of an event was that they would drive to a restaurant 20 miles away and rub on their cars. Oh and they all wore open shirts, and gold chains.

Ngl I always thought that a GT is the closest thing to a corvette that’s ford has ever had. It resembles it in so many ways

@rieleyslocum870

2 жыл бұрын

@@Loulovesspeed it kinda does resemble it homie

@Loulovesspeed

2 жыл бұрын

@@rieleyslocum870 Yeah, right. Only if you're far sighted and have a six pack and a couple joints under your belt. Really dude, there isn't a similar line between them!

@rieleyslocum870

2 жыл бұрын

@@Loulovesspeed headlight style & similar shape, hood style, short sweeping hoods, they have short, sectioned grills, intakes behind the doors, one piece looking different doesn’t mean they now have zero similarities. Look at both new models, the ‘21 C8 and ‘19 GT.

@Loulovesspeed

2 жыл бұрын

@@rieleyslocum870 So you're saying the C8 copied many of the Ford GT's styling points - figures. Lol

@seventh-hydra

2 жыл бұрын

@@Loulovesspeed Ignoring the actual look of the cars, I see what he's on about. Both are Grand Tourers with "exotic" styling and a similar profile. Though the GT's actually a supercar, and Corvette's more a sportscar. The viper fits there as well. All three are halo cars. Plus, they both compete(d) in the same class in racing. Mostly GT1 and GT3, in things like Super GT, FIA GT World Championship, American Le Mans Series, World Endurance Championship, Blancpain, WeatherTech, so on. Edit: Both are also basically rip-offs of European sportscars, and always have been. Going back to the original Vette and the GT40.

It would be interesting to see an alternate timeline where Ford decided to keep the Thunderbird as a 2-seater sports car and continued to compete against the Corvette from 1958 onwards.

@robertoperez2843

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, true but the mustang would probably not exist

Chevy has corvette Dodge has viper Nissan has GTR Porsche has 911 Honda has lawnmower type R

@adamwade6694

5 жыл бұрын

NSX

@geometrogaming1669

5 жыл бұрын

$1

@fusionsportdaily1650

5 жыл бұрын

I'd rather have a honda than a Shitvy!

@SlowV6Mustang

5 жыл бұрын

Look I get the joke, but they have the new NSX so it just isn’t funny to me tbh.

@tannerlyons4038

5 жыл бұрын

2018 Honda Civic Si so why did u comment and not just scroll on to other comments, idc if u like it or not, just a joke

Ironic that the retroactively styled 2002 Thunderbird ... resembles the classic Corvette.

@derkwayne1833

4 жыл бұрын

It resembles the classic T-bird.

@Trija204

4 жыл бұрын

Oh wow it does!

@cadecoin

4 жыл бұрын

Backgammon definitely not

@11C1P

4 жыл бұрын

Ironic that you don't know what the 55-57 T-birds looked like.

@raspiankiado4658

4 жыл бұрын

"Ha, HAHAHA! Wait, you're serious?!" -Peter Parker's boss.

A part of me died when he said the viper is dead

I dunno if anyone else feels this way, but i appreciate that slick groove playing in the background.

@raccoon2058

3 жыл бұрын

got sum jive to it no kizzie

I LOVE GETTING YELLED AT BY JAMES

@matthewlongtin4148

6 жыл бұрын

Michael Capistran Just like his dad did.

@kimkyle7663

6 жыл бұрын

you naughty thing

@xaviermondragonjr3857

6 жыл бұрын

YESS!

@orlandotovar4318

6 жыл бұрын

Michael Capistran same dude same.. This guy is boring

@lukec1471

6 жыл бұрын

Which one

0:03 carol shelby:Am i joke to you

@luniuni8236

4 жыл бұрын

I’d argue Shelby was more into making sports cars into super cars

@rileyshenton916

3 жыл бұрын

I loved the way that Shelby called it sport car

I thought the GT and the Corvette were in the same class in LeMans

@seamuscullen9868

2 жыл бұрын

It's not really comparable because of the restrictions put on cars and taken off of others, endurance racing is weird because an aston martin corvette and ford gt can all be in the same series but a base ford gt is waaaay different than the racing version. Because a base ford gt with aerodynamic upgrades and weight reductions would be too speedy it gets weight put on it so that stuff like the corvette can compete. The endurance racing board/government or whatever regulates cars for fairer racing if that makes sense.

@StockTurboN20

2 жыл бұрын

Corvette never raced LeMans

@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo

2 жыл бұрын

@@seamuscullen9868 your partially right.... The Ford GT is often referred as a homologation special because most of the car is used in racing.... I heard at least 60% of the race car is the the same as road car. When you look at the Corvette race car almost 0% of the road car is used in racing.... Pratt and miller makes their own Corvette completely ground up..... Only the engine block From the P&M Corvette is GM..........

1:37 we have a '55 Ford Thunderbird convertible. awesome car, sounds awesome.

5:06 damn this makes me wish more people new about the Australian Fords like the Falcon which they made so many different models for.

@irregularrex4004

4 жыл бұрын

The Ford Falcon with the Barra is my Supra. I was just talking to my buddy about them and hopefully if the importers can get their hands on a few I'm dropping money! Everyone here wants a supra, I want a falcon.

@insomniacbritgaming1632

4 жыл бұрын

Or the UK models like the Coswortb Sierra and Escort...

@028TuvaluanHero

4 жыл бұрын

@@irregularrex4004 NZ love their Ford Falcons!

@emiliocarranza6674

4 жыл бұрын

They should of brought them to the U.S market or at least put the Aussie motor in the fusion

@grahamm9094

4 жыл бұрын

Barra 4 life brother

lemme just say R.I.P. Viper :'(

@Healtsome

6 жыл бұрын

Amen

@irvingchaves3329

6 жыл бұрын

What do you mean did they discontinue the viper???

@Mrjoecreeper

6 жыл бұрын

Irving Chaves Yes.

@ForTehNguyen

6 жыл бұрын

they shut down the plant in aug 2017, 2017 is the last year for viper

@toastedbread3287

6 жыл бұрын

They were insane cars, in a good way. They will be missed.

The naming contest list got me cryin😭😭😭

I still find it a shame how all automakers seem to need to compete in all vehicle type markets. I miss the days when car companies were more specialized, and the cars less angry looking.

@KillerDeadXero

Жыл бұрын

Tell that to honda making cars AND motorcycles. But yamaha makes motorcycles, pianos, AND boats

@FrancisSchonarth

Жыл бұрын

@@KillerDeadXero Honda also make planes.

@qsmith4639

Жыл бұрын

Isn't kia making pianos now? Lol

Carroll shelby was asked by Ford to make a mustang faster than a corvette.. He made them faster than Ferrari instead

@joehernandez8650

6 жыл бұрын

uGotSN1p3dB1cH mustang was never faster than a corvette or Ferrari

@sidewayzsrt706

6 жыл бұрын

Joe Hernandez The Shelby GT350 ups a corvette when it comes to laying down horsepower so I'm sure it can put up a fight against a vet

@GrimReaper1675

6 жыл бұрын

Westside Hustle idk dude. the Corvette weighs less and has more low end torque. maybe at highway speed runs it can stand a chance. don't forget about power to weight ratios.

@SilentButDudley

6 жыл бұрын

He made mustangs faster in a straight line better than Ferrari’s... also are you talking about the GT? That isn’t a Mustang.

@abelinc9898

6 жыл бұрын

He might be talking about the gt40...

I like this kinda shit dude Can U do another one next week

@ZXTech

6 жыл бұрын

Engagé Guignol agree

@screw_bird

6 жыл бұрын

The english substitute of my name is private joker

@screw_bird

6 жыл бұрын

On full metal jacket

@johncastillo2194

6 жыл бұрын

Engagé Guignol is that you john wayne? Is this me?

@screw_bird

6 жыл бұрын

It's me

The gt500 is a “Ford corvette” to me

@JoseGonzalez-jx8lu

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you...

@BoleDaPole

3 жыл бұрын

Nah the gt500 competes with the camero

@bradyyoung7848

3 жыл бұрын

@@BoleDaPole that’s what the mustang GT is for

@Gauck69

3 жыл бұрын

@@bradyyoung7848 GT500 competes with the ZL1. The Mustang GT competes with the Camaro SS.

@bradyyoung7848

3 жыл бұрын

@@Gauck69 yup

I’m not a ford fan by any means. But I think you forgot to mention the forgotten Thunderbird SC (89’-95’), and the relevance to this video. Also, wanted to mention how much I really enjoy all “Donut Media” videos, refer them to all my gear heard/petrol head friends and family all over the globe, and looking forward to the next ones. Keep up the awesome work guys.

This was dope! I love the knowledge you guys teach. You compress years and decades into minutes

@estebanszittyay987

6 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY.... That's just what I thought... Regards from Argentina

@JohnDoeDoeJohn69

6 жыл бұрын

Darksaige That’s the goal of teaching history. Fit large amounts of time into smaller increments.

"Do people want less sporty sports cars? YES!" SUVs! SUVs everywhere!

@tammyforbes2101

6 жыл бұрын

Yea I hate those fucking things there rolling daycares nothing more. I’m a profession detailer “shinepros” and I hate seeing them coming cause I know they will have shit slung everywhere from little kids. It’s got so bad I’m seriously thinking of turning down caravan minivans there always the worst of the worst.

@rickharrison1442

6 жыл бұрын

Thomas Ning SUV’s are sporty too just in a different way

@stinkycheese804

6 жыл бұрын

That makes no sense. Merely charge more for minivans and have a food, pet hair, and vomit extra fee. It's only fair, people who have relatively clear cars SHOULD PAY LESS.

@bubblesofthecoast6393

6 жыл бұрын

Though there are two types: ones they use the same engine as the 4 door sedan in a heavier vehicle, or one that is a truck with a roof over the trunk and the seating capacity of a ninivan

@Collasseum

6 жыл бұрын

Same

In my opinion, the 63 Stingray is in a class of its own. Like he said, “the best sports car ever.” My dream car and it isn’t even close, would love to drive one of those.

3:35 AC Cobra: Am I a fucking joke to u?!

@simonfrost7878

3 жыл бұрын

That's a British car

1:57 someone in the company wanted to name it Deez Nuts.

@catblitz5103

5 жыл бұрын

Cashmeoutside Howboutdat is also one xD

@maxidkwuthislastnameis8733

4 жыл бұрын

R.i.p the pumphery 502

@wyattcheramie004

4 жыл бұрын

All of them are pretty funny.

@standupyak

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah

@possibly_ben

3 жыл бұрын

but the shaggin wagon tho

The newer thunderbirds 2002-2005, looks like a 1953 to 1956 corvette. on the front end at least.

I was thinking about this at work today, and now it’s in my recommendations....

2016 GT350R is still my dream car..... been in love ever since I first saw it... that and the documentary "A Faster Horse"

The real question is... why doesn't chevy make a GT competitor?

@TinoInHD

6 жыл бұрын

Maybe that’s why they’re making the mid engine corvette? Not sure

@LeonardoBruno54

6 жыл бұрын

Maybe because the GT is not a production car???

@Me-hn3gk

6 жыл бұрын

Leonardo Bruno The Ford GT is a production car. It’s just a lot harder to get.

@ascarikz1r733

6 жыл бұрын

ZR1 Vette (C7)?

@Pandakiller523

6 жыл бұрын

daddy d they do and it’s a Corvette zr1 with electric motors and it’s like 700k 💀

I’d like to see them bring back the thunderbird

@FAT8893

4 жыл бұрын

T-bird with Mustang GT350 engine. Count me in.

@alexanderbarcenas6224

4 жыл бұрын

@@FAT8893 wow never thought of that ,thats actually a great idea

@whitescreen1274

4 жыл бұрын

T^T No

@spencerthurman

4 жыл бұрын

Me too, but this time do it as a performance vehicle 1st, as it should be. Slotted in between the Mustang and the GT.

@Loulovesspeed

4 жыл бұрын

saxophone general - Yeah, right. Ford already tried to bring it back, and it didn't sell. Why repeat the same mistake?

My pop had a 63 T-Bird lived that car!

Would love to see the Shelby series 1 come back it came out in 99 wasn’t exactly a big hit but I think 2021 might be the perfect time

Why doesn't GM make a Raptor competitor? Why doesn't GM make a Ford GT competitor? Why doesn't GM compete in the WRC? Why doesn't GM compete in a Formula series?

@TechDove

4 жыл бұрын

Colorado ZR2 bison Corvette ZT1 No answer for that No answer for that lol

@killstacy8088

4 жыл бұрын

Gm competes in IndyCar racing wich ford doesnt so

@walterclements6175

4 жыл бұрын

@@killstacy8088 Indy car is just circular f1

@irregularrex4004

4 жыл бұрын

@@TechDove Colorado is the Ford Rangers competitor.

@sheldynblake3030

4 жыл бұрын

The corvette zr1 is faster than any ford gt. It smoked a supercharged v10 r8 and a v12 aventador

Why does Chevy not make a competitor to the Ford Focus RS rally car? Or any AWD rally car at all?

@sigmaprojects

6 жыл бұрын

I'm surprised also since they try to make a mark in Europe. GM's AWD sportish vehicles are through Opel/Vauxhall but they're never to the same level as the Focus RS. I think currently GM's quickest AWD car would be the CT6 3.0T AWD, which is a boat since it's marketed towards 6 or 7 series, but it can go 0-60 in 5.0 seconds. If they used the same type of power train in a ATS sized vehicle it would be a pretty fast car.

@ineedbeanz7555

6 жыл бұрын

There kinda is idk if this counts I forgot the model but tries the one from transformers counts like the twins

@sigmaprojects

6 жыл бұрын

The Chevy Sonic/Spark? They never were fast or AWD methinks.

@darkcrusher-jt1dr

6 жыл бұрын

Ford just makes better hatchbacks I guess. Chevy makes better trucks.

@johnb8440

6 жыл бұрын

The Sonic is awful for its class..... with that said, I give the Spark props for being damn good for its price point. Neither of them are fast though. 85horse for the spark.

I had a 73 T-Bird, first model of Gen 8, dubbed "Big Bird". Had a massive 470ci, 7.4 liter V8 motor. Was a fun car.

1:58 I absolutely LOVE the options!!! I'd pick the 2nd down on the left. Only cuz I'm from the 502(like Mr. Pumphrey over there)!!!

I hate the people that say "uhh I wanted up to speed" dude, this channel is evolving, creating new content so you people can enjoy it and the only thing you viewers do is complaint just because james isn't in a video.

@PACKERMAN2077

6 жыл бұрын

JT Suarez yeah it's like they don't even realize and this channel has more people than just the guy on camera that you see presenting. although it would be super funny to see James in other segments other than up to speed and have a completely different personality like he's a different person, like the Ernest shorts

Why doesn't Chevy make a Ford GT(Not Mustang) competitor?

@keepinitreal5406

6 жыл бұрын

Camaro ss

@ericochoa4271

6 жыл бұрын

keepin itreal he meant a ford gt competitor not a ford mustang gt competitor

@synchole

6 жыл бұрын

I thought there's a mid engine corvette already made...

@coqueabeto1

6 жыл бұрын

Price tag. The new ford GT is just too expensive for a car with a V6, besides you can get a corvette ZR1 (the one that has a engine made by LOTUS) for less than 80k USD. It would be interesting though to see a direct competitor for the GT, but something tells me it would be a corvette with a monster stock engine.

@ThaKenMan

6 жыл бұрын

Just one Lazy Mechanic The last mid/rear engine car they mad was the Chevy Corvair and that was discontinued in 1969.

I got an 03 thunderbird i really like this car!!

Remember when in 2005, GM, Ford and Chrysler all had their own supercars in the same price range. The GT, the Viper SRT10, and the Corvette ZR1

@AxelP666

3 жыл бұрын

Those aren’t super cars. They are more like sports cars.

@DanyaalShaozab

3 жыл бұрын

The ZR1 came out in 2009...

@DanyaalShaozab

3 жыл бұрын

@@AxelP666 The Ford GT is definitely a supercar

@juliansoto2651

3 жыл бұрын

@@DanyaalShaozab corvette and viper are GT cars, right? But the ford GT is not a GT car

@okme539

3 жыл бұрын

@@AxelP666 I'd say the viper is a super car, butbthe Corvette definitely isnt

Your graphic showing the first Thunderbird 4 seater is actually a drawing of the 1959 Ford Galaxie 2 door sedan.

@theshadowswithin9896

5 жыл бұрын

That was my first thought when it popped up as well.

@gojoe2833

4 жыл бұрын

Its a Fairlane 500, actually. The 59 Galaxie had a squared off roof

@matthewbrock636

3 жыл бұрын

Yea it bugged me too lol.

Why is everyone asking for James lol. This guy has his own segment. James does up to speed

I've lamented the non-sporty Thunderbirds my whole life. I test drove the last "renewed" version of the 2000s, and immediately told the sales guy it was gutless. A natural small six, or a turbo four were the two choices.

@mvd4436

2 жыл бұрын

Front wheel drive. It was made for heritage Boomers

Please bring wheelhouse back. And I also really miss when you all dropped an episode pretty much every day. But I’d settle for wheelhouse

I just know Viper will be back but can you imagine Ford, Chevy and Dodge all heating it out with sports cars? I'd frkn love it. Corvette vs Viper vs Thunderbird

@Loulovesspeed

3 жыл бұрын

@kapil busawah - The Viper's gone forever - you and others need to get over that. They're not going to spend money on a newer version of a vehicle that few wanted. They had trouble selling the last ones, they sat on dealer's lots for a long time. Car companies need new sources of design to stay competitive in the market, not by resurrecting a prior car that failed in the long run.

@MylesKillis

3 жыл бұрын

@@Loulovesspeed or they can make it less extreme but still the same concept

@Loulovesspeed

3 жыл бұрын

@@MylesKillis - Possibly, but that would go directly against the very reason the Viper was created, as a future version of the Shelby Cobra. I don't know, but it seems like Chrysler/Fiat is still trying to sort itself out in determining what marketing strategy for the coming years it will follow. Only time will tell!

What needs to happen is Ford needs to aquire the Cobra name from Shelby. That way they could bring back the Cobra as a Corvette competitor.

@ed4787

6 жыл бұрын

Drew Neubuhr you mean Corvette destroyer

@kingcactus3536

6 жыл бұрын

Ed I love your jokes

@ed4787

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I'll be here all week.

@NathanKirby2001

6 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah

1:16 I like how they have power seats for basic stuff. My 2017 mustang doesn’t even have power seats

If my future prediction goes right then I think " the donut media " might become the Marketing/addvertisement company in the future they make one the best hilarious skits especially this one 0:18

See I thought Viper, Corvette, And GT were rivals like the Camero, Challenger, And Mustang

@tucker5198

5 жыл бұрын

The Zig z the prices are incomparable

@tucker5198

5 жыл бұрын

And the GT would smoke both of them

@puddleslime253

5 жыл бұрын

@@tucker5198 and same with the challenger

@wasup9439

5 жыл бұрын

The Gt is in a whole other class

@mannyv.7332

5 жыл бұрын

Dodge Charger, Chevy SS, Ford Focus RS

Doesn’t the mustang outsell the camaro and the Vette?

@Osmani4you

4 жыл бұрын

yeah it does

@xd_gangster693

4 жыл бұрын

yeah but everyone gets the v6 thinking its the v8

@ConairHockey

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah but it’s more about preference now than competition. The Camaro is the RC Cola of Pony cars, debatable better but has more of a cult market than mainstream.

@Osmani4you

4 жыл бұрын

Connor Hall true I prefer the mustang due to visibility but the camaro is a really nice option as well

@MDDeGrande1994

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah but it doesn't compete with/rival the Corvette but the Camaro. The Mustang and Vette are two different types of cars - one is a pony car which competes with the Camaro and Challenger (and similar cars such as the Plymouth Barracuda, Pontiac Firebird, classic Mercury Cougar, classic Dodge Dart, classic Ford Falcon, AMC Javelin, Chevy Nova, etc.) and other one is an exotic car (a GT car, to be exact) which rivals the Ford GT, Dodge Viper, Nissan GT-R (but NOT the Skyline GT-R), Porsche 911, Audi R8, Mercedes-AMG GT/SLS AMG/SLR McLaren, McLaren 12C/570S/570GT/600LT/650S/675LT/720S/GT, Lamborghini Gallardo and Huracán, Maserati 3200GT/3500GT/original Ghibli/GranSport/GranTurismo, Alfa Romeo 8C, Ferrari 308/365 GT4/512BB/Testarossa/348/F355/360/F430/458/488/F8 Tributo, Aston Martin Vantage/DB series/Vanquish/One-77, Ferrari 250 series/275 GTB/Daytona/456/550 Maranello/575M/599/F12/812, TVR Cerbera/Tuscan/Sagaris, Shelby Daytona, Bentley Continental, Ascari KZ1/A10, Marcos Mantis/Mantara, Gillet Vertigo, Arrinera Hussarya, Morgan Aero, etc...

Nolan: "It's got hideaway headlights" Me: *Pop* *pOp* *PoP*

Exactly what I've always said to my car enthusiasts friends.

Why doesn't chevy have a competitor for the GT.

@zachbryan4379

6 жыл бұрын

Brandon Carlson the Chevy comaro zl1

@Macintoshiba

6 жыл бұрын

zach yeeyee Isnt that the Mustang Competitor

@brandoncarlson340

6 жыл бұрын

No it's the chevette

@kl75182

6 жыл бұрын

they will have with the Mid Engine Corvette

@joshu-bass5426

6 жыл бұрын

zach yeeyee HAHAHA

For all the people saying Ford GT....HELLO it's a limited production $450k car that is already sold out....IN ( NO WAY ) is it competition for the $55

@cccboarding

5 жыл бұрын

JerseyMikeP well in performance considering it got shit on by the zr1 it is very comparable

@JerseyMikeP

5 жыл бұрын

Corey...TRUE...which makes all the "why doesn't GM make a GT?" comments DUMB. I can Appreciate/respect that it's a Carbon fiber tube car... But with the V6...Performance is lacking like an OVER-priced FERRARI Street Model. And that's what the Ford fanboys are missing. A Less powerful ACR Viper would easily out run it on the track if it had a DCT transmission...maybe even the 100 more horses 750hp ZR-1.

@JerseyMikeP

5 жыл бұрын

Corey Corey...The c6 ZR-1 with (DOT track tires) barely beat the GTS Viper. The T/A 1.0 Beat the C6 Zr-1....Still with street tires. T/A 2.0 must have been to much for too little $$$ as Motor trend were too much of little B*tches to test one. ACR ( SHIT !!! ) on the same power/sAME hp/ SAME TRACK TIRE competition from corvette. (FACT !!) FYI. Sad it took GM so long to make an ACR competitor.. (OF Course they waited until the ACR was No more! )I still have my Corvette history poster....they just got soft.

@rondyechannel1399

5 жыл бұрын

Chevy probably just breaks even selling 30,000 Corvettes. If Ford built a competitor that sold 10,000 both Companies would lose a lot money. Chevrolet keeps the Corvette around as a halo car for some of their (ahem) less desirable offerings.

@JerseyMikeP

5 жыл бұрын

Ron... Just break even?? That's Not true.. GM North America president Mark Reuss said, "...the Corvette turns a healthy profit by itself....This [The Corvette] makes as much money as any of the top-profit models in our company,” Reuss said. “That is why we do it. Plus it is used to develop new engine/transmissions which is adds value to the company.

I own a t-bird and this was a cool video to watch because it was kind of a outline of t bird origins than corvette inspired.

The T-bird: The coolest car I somehow have never heard of

The real question is... why doesn’t Chevrolet Make a GT competitor

@terminal_veloster986

6 жыл бұрын

H4554N they can’t, it would suck

@cameronsaintgeorge4364

6 жыл бұрын

C8 bruh

@Trussme96

6 жыл бұрын

Their building the mid engine vette as we speak

@NA-ck6cz

6 жыл бұрын

H4554N The next one will be mid engined with at least 700hp

@thegtiguy960

6 жыл бұрын

They do it’s called a ZR1 and it’s 1/5th the price of the GT while offering similar performance.

Don't forget how Ford made a direct competitor to the Corvette with the Shelby Cobra. The only problem with that was its exclusivity.

@dru254msquare3

6 жыл бұрын

Aaron Elsen not true...it was a competitor of the jaguar

@TheRealBleach

6 жыл бұрын

Aaron Elsen They didn't make it. The car is from AC (An english company) and the engine was made by Caroll Shelby in partnership with ford

@Loulovesspeed

3 жыл бұрын

@@dru254msquare3 The E Type Jag never really posed a threat to the Cobra. Shelby sold Ford on the idea of the Cobra to beat the Corvette, Ford's nemesis, which is just what it did, for several years after the Cobra was out of production.

Great video as usual. But wait... are you actually related to John Candy, Noah? Or was that just a joke lol

The cobra svt was a corvette competitor as they were both around 40k when it was out.

Whilst Ford didn't have a Corvette rival, they did swing a few punches their way. Ford gave Caroll Shelby a couple of engines to crowbar into an AC Ace. After a few years, and a little Ford magic rubbed on the chassis we had the Cobra, and it's fair to say that it gave the 'vette a bloody nose. Mission accomplished.

@kingj2951

5 жыл бұрын

They literally didn't but okay why domt they make it still then exactly

@thisguysnameismatt4460

5 жыл бұрын

@@kingj2951 why bother, the old ones still kick ass.

@kingj2951

5 жыл бұрын

@@thisguysnameismatt4460 which are u talking about

@kodyjohnson6294

5 жыл бұрын

_King_E _ the ac cobra dipshit. If you don’t know which cobra they are talking about based off of the original comment then you clearly don’t have the knowledge to win the argument you are trying to start.

@Loulovesspeed

5 жыл бұрын

_King_E_ - Great things never last. Use your head Bro and you'll realize why they don't still make it. Try and imagine what an abortion it would need to be just to meet Federal crash standards! It had its time in the sun and made automotive history. There is nothing left to prove.

I dont mind this guy. Why all the hate?

@nipunjayatunga3929

6 жыл бұрын

Roman Ballesteros Chevy fanboys wanting their Up to Speed on the Corvette

@dapeach06

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I like him, he is the Roman to James's Mr Regular, the May to James' Clarkson

@galil_6863

6 жыл бұрын

Roman Ballesteros It's good that they give credit to all the crew

@monpekokero

6 жыл бұрын

It's just biting a little too close to Up to Speed.

I always think of this now my question finna be answered

I’d love to see a video about Ford Falcons. I never see anything about them anymore.

The shelby gt350r is the closest thing to a corvette competitor imo.

@Kuru20134

6 жыл бұрын

Ali Imran but underpowered

@keegansponholz9260

6 жыл бұрын

Anime Dan not really. 526 is plenty in the gt350, and I'm pretty sure on a track it could hang with a lot of corvettes.

@isaiahmartinez5620

6 жыл бұрын

Ali Imran but we need a two seater coupe with a v8 as the only option

@cameronsaintgeorge4364

6 жыл бұрын

Sure but Chevy has an answer for the 350r: the ZL1, and they already have an answer for the gt500 which is the ZL1 1LE. Corvette is in another league and is about to go beyond with the C8.

@LJ-oc9yd

6 жыл бұрын

Affro Mac fords answer for corvette is the ford gt :) corvette is out of the ford gt’s league

Nolan make James do a "Up to speed" on the Ford Thunder...Thunder... Thunderbird Goooo!!!!!! Lol

@nickkrantz1143

4 жыл бұрын

Yess!

“My ‘53 vette has a leaky roof” “Sir, you bought a convertible”

I just got a ad from autozone with yall in it LMAO

You guys are great human beings and I love almost everything you guys put out.

I always thought the Ford GT was the competitor of the Corvette.

@coolperson1294

5 жыл бұрын

DBoy 37 no vettes are like a dream car that you finally achieve in the middle of your midlife crises.

@Osmani4you

5 жыл бұрын

Nothing GM compares to the Ford GT at the moment. You can buy a faster vette sure but it's not a gt which imo holds more value.

@thoseredneckkids5086

5 жыл бұрын

Because it is ford is the best

@briunnahicks4383

5 жыл бұрын

Corvette can outrun gt

@masonmoyer574

5 жыл бұрын

@@briunnahicks4383 v8 vs a v10 no that's not how that works

I like how you used a 1959 fairlane as the 1958 thunderbird lol. I happen to have a 1959 fairlane cop car. Along with a 1959 thunderbird jcode and a 1966 thunderbird 390. Love the thunderbirds

My great uncle still loves his thunder birds

Just getting into cars. Awesome channel. Subscribed.

I think it would be badass for Ford to start plans and working on a new t bird or hell maybe even a new ford vehicle

@tl5108

6 жыл бұрын

Jackson Mb bring back the torino, thunderbird, and the falcon

@justinpassfield560

6 жыл бұрын

2019 transit connect, 2019 ranger, 2020 bronco... What more do u want

@physicianake9775

6 жыл бұрын

ItsJrock 2018 ecosport

@mikekors2003

6 жыл бұрын

Not a big market for these. Do you like losing money?

@garybrinker4522

6 жыл бұрын

Somthing 2dr and v8 rwd

"Introducing the all new Ford Frigate" just doesn't have the same ring to it, I'm guessing that's why

The Ford Shelby GR-1 concept art would be great inspiration if to look at if the T-Bird was brought back

1:56 Ford Deez Nuts or Ford Houboutdat would be great.

@schon2395

6 жыл бұрын

nah fam I'd like the Ford Cashmeoutside

@galil_6863

6 жыл бұрын

Ford Eatadickpriusdrivers

@slammedsocietys2kp321

6 жыл бұрын

Good people it is 2018.

@mikegiles5038

6 жыл бұрын

The Struggled of the C4 corvette and how it's a great bang for the buck in today's market.

@WayneDavisDA_ILLESTalive14

6 жыл бұрын

Nobody would be able to Ford DeezNuts

How about the legacy of Pontiac and why GM let the brand go.

@jorgehernandez1294

6 жыл бұрын

Bankrupt

@OmegaxPrime

6 жыл бұрын

Normal companies sold 1 shitty car under 1 brand. GM sold 1 shitty card under 5 brands. Badge Engineering = bankruptcy.

@thetrollwhoknows9928

6 жыл бұрын

Because they started making minivans and economy cars that's what happened to Pontiac.

@weiwu1442

6 жыл бұрын

because no one wanted to pay more for an identical car that had a different badge

@coffelt683

6 жыл бұрын

lol there best sellers were the aztec and solstice... take your pick.

Would love to see an actual record lap time competition between the ford gt and the c7 zr1 and the c8 zr1 when it comes out. Or the c8.r vs the le mans gt

4 years to this video

I want a corvette up to speed

@ahmedturki6877

6 жыл бұрын

audey pabalate that's the one I am waiting for 😂

@Loulovesspeed

3 жыл бұрын

@audey pabalate - Find a very steep hill, climb in and hold on! Lol

Tbh, they probably can't. Dodge did and made a car that outperformed the Corvette in many ways, and we all see how that ended up. There's no money in it

@ryanlindner99

6 жыл бұрын

David lasater it just needs an auto trans option and not a reputation for wrapping itself around telephone poles

@romaine1987

6 жыл бұрын

If it had an auto transmission they would have sold a lot more. I know the manual is the way to go but no one is buying them. RIP viper

@Trussme96

6 жыл бұрын

The Viper had no auto option, no convertible option for last generation and it was too expensive compared to the corvette.

@cameronsaintgeorge4364

6 жыл бұрын

Dom_112202 That's where you're wrong, kiddo. www.roadandtrack.com/motorsports/a12159736/dodge-viper-acr-sets-7013-lap-time-in-final-nurburgring-lap/

@coffelt683

6 жыл бұрын

The last viper was actually one of the best handling production cars period. Not just in the US.

The GT is a Ford version of a Corvette. Just because the pricepoint isn't equal doesn't mean it's in a different class. It's just in a different sports car price range. Corvettes can hold their own against any sportscar manufacturer in one way or another. Top speed, acceleration, cornering, braking, and its price point are what make the Vette what it's always been, bad ass. It's not the best car in every single category, but it's the best sports car overall when considering every category including its price point. I love Donut's content. I'm still catching up on the older videos.

1:13 “There’s water leaking through the roof” Hmm, yes. Through my complex analysis, hypothesizing, and the collaborative efforts of various others in the field, accompanied by over 30 years of training and field experiences I can thereby conclude that *you have no roof*

As always awesome video

The Thunderbird returned to its roots with the Turbo Coupe in the 80s and the Supercoupe in the 90s. Both were awarded motor trend's car of the year when they debuted. I guess it wasn't enough to bring back sales. Makes me wonder what could've been if perhaps every Thunderbird was as good as the turbo or Supercoupes. Thanks for this video. I had always wondered more about the history of my 95 Supercoupe.

@Epotheros

6 жыл бұрын

The 90s T-Bird also had a platform with an IRS which allowed the V8 modle to pull a .86 G average on the skid pad which was very impressive for the time. It could take a corner harder than the mid 90s BMW M3 and M5s.

@civiccruiser7025

6 жыл бұрын

My family had a 89 with the 3.8, the very first year of the MN-12. It cut corners like it was on rails even at high speeds. It just wasnt very fast, and the transmission kinda sucked but I dont recall it breaking down and the fuel economy was decent.

@AndresMarroquinDude

6 жыл бұрын

Ben Dover yeah. I guess the Thunderbird would have to go back to being a roadster to truly compete.

@AndresMarroquinDude

6 жыл бұрын

civic cruiser I've got a 95 super coupe and I can agree that it both corners hard and its transmission is slower than the hour hand of a clock. The super coupe is fast enough to break traction on the wheels throughout 1st gear even with slightly improved tires

@civiccruiser7025

6 жыл бұрын

Corvette costed three times as much...

In about 6.5 hours from now, I'll own a 1996 Corvette. The Stingray is my all time favorite muscle car, but I like the look of the C4 model too.

I would like to see Ford bring back the Tbird as a 2 ton 4 door hulk of a land yacht. People might fall in love with the vinyl covered roof again. I think we can all agree that car chases in TV & Movies were way better in the 70s, you need a land yacht with loose hub caps for that.

Well they would if Ford mass produced the Daytona GT.

@Loulovesspeed

3 жыл бұрын

How could Ford mass produce a car they never built? Shelby American built that car in Venice, California. There are already a few companies that make a replica Daytona.

I'd rather see something like a Viper from Ford, perhaps call it a Daytona and style it after the Cobra of the same name

@hyped5530

4 жыл бұрын

Ben Rogue Daytona Cobra?? Ouuuuu

@dr.tragedy1941

4 жыл бұрын

dodge daytona already exists.

@WhoThisGuy515

4 жыл бұрын

I'd rather see something like a Viper from Dodge, really wish they would bring it back with a smaller displacement V10 so it could get through emissions. would give all the people who don't like the Corvette going mid engine something to buy.

@imjashingyou3461

4 жыл бұрын

@@WhoThisGuy515 any sports car with a high redline and more then 8 cylinders would be amazing from America. Worst comes to worse is you make it in the 4 to 5 liter range.

@Loulovesspeed

3 жыл бұрын

@@dr.tragedy1941 That's right, and Dodge copied the Shelby Daytona name!

I feel like this video just entered my soul.

For the love of Car Jesus, bring back the Viper!!!

@Loulovesspeed

3 жыл бұрын

@Silverwing - You'd do well to wish for another car! The Viper will never be back! They couldn't give them away at the end of production. Fiat needs to make money on Chrysler products, not lose money.

@harleymann2830

3 жыл бұрын

@@Loulovesspeed you know how many people would go absolutely crazy if dodge made a mid-engine viper? A roaring V-12 in the back... Corvettes would be crying. Europe would be back on its knees. The viper is a legendary name for dodge and I know that if they hyped it up well enough it would fly off the lot (literally).

@Loulovesspeed

3 жыл бұрын

@@harleymann2830 The current rumor of a new Viper suggests a V8 rather than the V10, or V12 and no talk of mid engine.

@harleymann2830

3 жыл бұрын

@@Loulovesspeed well I wasn't saying the rumors were saying that. I was just saying if they did that I'm 100% positive they would smash corvettes.

Though I would like to see the thunderbird come back as sports car that would interesting

@johnnycake3915

6 жыл бұрын

Wolfghost729 I don't think they would want to cannibalize mustang sales. Chevy has a bit of that between vette and camaro.

@Shadow_Wolf_190

6 жыл бұрын

johnny cake I don’t think it wouldn’t really because the mustang was intended for being sporty yet a small family car and the thunderbird would target couples without children and the high price range would affect sales too

@johnnycake3915

6 жыл бұрын

Wolfghost729 the mustang has a very wide rage from the eco boost to the gt350 and soon gt500. It sells more than the camaro and vette combined. It doesn't seem to make sense to develop a car for a niche market that the vette pretty much having it to its self only sold 32k last year. That's a small market to share with a nameplate like corvette while risking sales of your profitable mustang. It's the reason the miata is by itself. Maybe they could take the mustang, cut off the trunk, remove the back seats, give it a hatch and call the thunderbird or whatever.

@Shadow_Wolf_190

6 жыл бұрын

johnny cake there’s the gt350r no back seats

@johnnycake3915

6 жыл бұрын

Wolfghost729 yes, but I meant to put a shorter body on the mustang without the rear trunk and its over hang. Where the rear seats are in the mustang would be the cargo area and a hatch to access it. They could also lower the roofline and drop weight with aluminium of fiberglass. It would be a lighter 2 seat mustang instead of a whole new car. I still don't think it's justified from a business standpoint. In fact, it seems vette will be leaving the market to the camaro and moving up market and mid engine.

Your points are well taken. We need another serious American competitor to the renown Corvette. Ford had the Thunderbird but ruin the concept by adding 2 more seats and losing it's competitive sports car edge it once shared with the Corvette. The Ford Shelby was too exclusive and not designed for mass production. It seems a shame that a country as great as ours only has 1 true sports car. Ford needs to rethink it's marketing and business model and see if it's feasible to produce either a serious Thunderbird or Ford Shelby 2 seater sports car to go head to head with the Corvette. It could be a win, win for the consumer and auto company as well.

@grantfuller6123

6 жыл бұрын

This country’s only true sports car is a Jeep

@paulocuento9949

5 жыл бұрын

Gregory Trane... lets just hope this happens: www.motor1.com/news/182350/2020-shelby-cobra-concept-rendering/

@mrubuntuking5257

5 жыл бұрын

Do you mean the Shelby Cobra? That was an AC with a Ford engine, and Carroll Shelby's company actually didn't get absorbed into Ford and become their performance division until after 1970. Shelby Cobras, Mustangs, or whatever else weren't technically Fords until then, any more than RUFs are Porsches or Lotuses are Toyotas. Besides, I personally don't think the Cobra/Ace was comparable to the Corvette, it was more like a Miata. It was more about carving corners with a raw, open-air experience. The handling wasn't even that great, the main appeal of British roadsters by brands like AC, MG, and Triumph was the connectedness to the road and the completely raw, comfortless experience. The ride was incredibly rough by the standards of the day (and almost unbearable by modern standards), there was nothing inside except the seats and steering wheel, and it was much smaller and tighter than a Miata let alone a Corvette. The Corvette is the attainable, daily-drivable supercar, which is precisely why most people don't consider it to be a real supercar. The AC Cobra is one of the rawest, least practical British sports car roadsters ever to grace the roads, and I don't think the fundamental character of the car changed much when Shelby put an enormous Ford engine under the hood, if anything it got even more wild and undailyable. 50s-70s British roadsters (except arguably the Triumph Stag) have almost nothing in common with the Corvette. It's a class of cars that doesn't really exist anymore, Lotus is the closest you can get, and they're not even close to the original price range.

@paulocuento9949

5 жыл бұрын

MrUbuntuking... the cobra was a tuner car i agree.. and was never a factory model.. however, the track experience had helped ford with its engineering and tuning department which would then be implemented to the Shelby Mustang.. Shelby helped Ford racing team.. it would have been great if they moonlighted with a corvette competitor much like the dodge viper i think Ford would have had a great rivalry with Corvette had they developed a competitor, and the closest i can think of is the cobra.. because unlike the thunderbird, the cobra was not a car for the family.. however, the greatest strength of the corvette is the fact that a middle class american can save for it, and buy it (even a used c4 is great).. people buy the corvette not for exclusivity, but really for pure joy of being fast.. i think most people who buy corvettes, know they arent as exotic as ferraris or lambos, but they still can competitive on track

@josephg41

5 жыл бұрын

Okay, I agree that Ford needs to make a true competitor to the Corvette, but the 2013 Mustang GT500, for instance, can go nearly 200 MPH which is faster than just about any Corvette except for the ZR1 Corvettes, regardless, my point is that Ford has the Capability to make a Corvette competitor, I believe they proved that with the 2013 GT500, they just need to wake up and get to work on a Corvette competitor similar to the old Ford Thunderbird back in the day. That would be good, not just for Ford, but for Chevy too, as most of you should know, competition between companies is always good as the companies push to make a product that is better than their rival company’s product.

The C8 corvette is a game changer for the age demographics of this car. I have a feeling younger people will be driving this car as the prices come down in the used car market. I own one and is amazing to see the response people have when they see this Ferrari looking vehicle. Ford needs an affordable 2-seater for the masses.

They had a concept back in 04 that wouldve been a competitor the shelby gr-1 a throwback to the daytona coupe with 600 hp out of a 6.4l v10