Ask a soldier whose been under a Grad barrage if it’s outdated…

@jarrodwilson2382

5 ай бұрын

Can't find any😮

@user-ee7bz3ip2b

4 ай бұрын

If he's still alive, probably not that great

@antoniotucci2614

2 ай бұрын

They are d'ingresso veri well

@liansimte2371

2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@QuenzaDuvalier509

28 күн бұрын

😅😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😂😂

Because it's reliable, effective and hardy. It gets the job done and isn't complicated.

@shinji1264

6 ай бұрын

Seriously if that thing had a guidance system it would be the best piece of equipment on the field

@enhancedutility266

6 ай бұрын

​@@shinji1264I've heard the newer version of this weapon system is supposed to have a guidance system I believe it's called the tornado s

@Flo-gb1fk

6 ай бұрын

Maybe it's Hardy but that doesn't make up for technological disadvantages compared to newer tech

@franciscoberber563

6 ай бұрын

Just like everything that Russia makes ,sofisticared,simple and easy to used😅😅

@D-E-S_8559

6 ай бұрын

@@Flo-gb1fk You people think finicky to experimental technology is everything in war, until when you come across the REAL environs of a battlefield; trenches, foxholes and tunnels and then your tech can't save you... Grads are battlefield tactical implements---they are NOT meant to be strategic, even they may tactically support a cohesive strategy....

If it works, it ain’t stupid. People act like everything needs to be 5 million dollars per salvo to be ‘good’. This does the job it intends to do and at a fraction of the price the west would spend on a system like this. This is meant for war, not for showing off and business

@brianmurray1395

2 ай бұрын

That’s why they are winning over all this hight tech failure of the west.

@user-uy8wx4pk4h

Ай бұрын

"People act like everything needs to be 5 million dollars per salvo to be ‘good’." Well the purpose of the American military-industrial complex is to spend as much money as possible so in that context yes the more expensive the warhead the better

It's very simple, Grad has an extremely low build cost, it's reliable and Russia has thousands of them. It also do its job without any problems, the reload time doesn't matter since most of them drives away when empty or replaced with a other Grad. Russia isn't low on anything, everyone who can read Russian know Russia wants to use up their old equipment before using modern equipments.

@pietskiet42-_

6 ай бұрын

They must have millions of these rockets in storage...including the air to grounds..?

@epoxy1710

6 ай бұрын

@@pietskiet42-_ As I know Russia has built more than 150.000 BM-21 Grad, I see no reason that Russia has not produced enough artillery shells to support the amount of Grads build. If I'm not mistaken, I believe the millions of artillery shells North Korea has are designed to be used in Grads.

@iam_joshua_bcxvii

6 ай бұрын

Exactly my thought too. This things doesn't seem to need computers too at best. So it must be cheap to fire each missile and hard to intercept too due to the volume at which they could be fired at.

@matovicmmilan

6 ай бұрын

@@iam_joshua_bcxvii If you find out that your enemy has some units 10-20km in front, especially if these happen to be large units, the Grad is an ideal weapon.

@adambussert3383

5 ай бұрын

Seems like they want to use up their older citizens as well? Old weapons are one thing, a quarter million people is a totally different thing. Machines can be replaced, individual lives can’t be replaced

You've analysed the BM-21 from very basic and meaningless points, that it's almost childish----Firstly, the Grads primary objectives as a weapon system is wide groundfire SATURATION aka flame thrower. The grads best defense is it's mobility to shoot and scoot like a typical technical. It's advantage is it's tactical efficiency and utility cost effectiveness...

@maksimsmelchak7433

6 ай бұрын

That's seems like a fair evaluation.

@terefefeyssa877

6 ай бұрын

His analysis is based on political objectives being told by His masters. That is why He is repeating things.

@14k46

5 ай бұрын

lol@@terefefeyssa877

@antoniotucci2614

2 ай бұрын

Corrects

To think that Russia is lacking of Ammos is a real stupid idea !

In a specific combat scenario even a stone is not something outdatted when it comes to hand-to-hand combat. A stone can be the most modern thing in those circumstances.

@shinji1264

6 ай бұрын

Alot of ppl dont know a rock can br classified as technology, if you find yourself stranded in the wild you'll soon figure that out

@alejmonzon

6 ай бұрын

@@shinji1264 If a person doesn't know that a rock is technology in the right hands, well, maybe his super-tech world turned him into a digital zombie. One rock was enough for me to push back a group of thugs in an urban environment. Any technology is only useful because of the tactics to use it and the strategy that designed its way of using it. You just have to see The Down of Men in the 2001 movie A Space Odyssey. A stone or a bone made the difference in creating civilization. The Russians use what they have strategically and cost-effectively while the West bled financially in Ukraine. They have large arsenals of Soviet weapons that do not cost them a kopec to use and my stone by the way cost 0

@genem895

6 ай бұрын

You mean "Russian shovel" Sometimes, shovels have hypersonic speed.

@milanradovanovic3693

6 ай бұрын

​@@genem895Just keep laughing at someone's tech capabilities... US wont have its own hypersonic before 2028 and reports of failed test just keep coming

Would you get rid of the best weapons at the beginning of a war? No one does that and everyone saves the best for later…

I don’t know if reloading is that much of a weakness. The grad like its high tech counter parts is unlikely to sit still after firing it’s payload. That’s what the wheels on the vehicle is for.

@agnescane4058

Ай бұрын

It's not your problem anymore it's russia's. Russia used all the weapons that canbe of used. but they have all the high tech weapons that they will use if they wsnt to. So don't worry and its not your obligation to worry..understood?

Russia has been producing at 24/7 tanks rockets rifles kit everything you can think of.they will never run out!

@philchristmas4071

6 ай бұрын

That's why they had to beg Iran and North Korea for more weapons.😅

@sergey3482

5 ай бұрын

​@@philchristmas4071 Beg? Lol, we bought these weapons or exchanged them for something that we have (weapons/technologies/ natural resources) Only Zelensky is running around Western countries begging for supplies

@brianmurray1395

2 ай бұрын

That’s a strategic move to take the war at the rate it does to Ukraine while their production goes up. It’s a leapfrog

BM21 Grad is old but works great.

I seen pOv footage of soldiers on the receiving end of grad rockets in both Ukraine & Ngorno Karabakh wars. Still effective for saturation of enemy positions.

Its not outdated if it does the job... "Era dominated by modern weapons" - which everyone lacks off.

@jarednovel

6 ай бұрын

As long as it does the Job..Many US planes including the U2 Spy plane and B52 bombers have existed since the 1950s ..America uses many weapons that have been around since second war as well

It's still a great weapon system, cheap to produce and cheap ammo. Very versatile and agile, can reload fast and rain rockets down anywhere and then move quickly to new area and fire again

Quantity is quality on its own.

There is no need to discard some equipment because it's old. If it gets the job done, it's not outdated. Simple, cheap and if it work it works, no further question needed.

A country with a budget constrains... Just wait until the USD crashes...

I think they used it from the very beginning because it's effective. If it ain't broke, you don't fix it! The effectiveness shows in the extraordinary numbers of Ukrainian's KIA and casualties. Russia said in the beginning, this is a meat grinder. Unfortunately it's been extraordinarily deadly.

The answer is that it just works well.

unit price is simply negligible (probably less than 1/10th) to himars and 2-3 full salvos makes up one single himars rocket's price... so a fully loaded himars will give you more than 10 grads with two full salvos each... it does not have to be accurate...

@homegbafe8558

6 ай бұрын

A salvo of 10-20 GRAD rockets will cover about 3-5 football fields, one HiMARS missile CANNOT do that. In the open STEPPES, where trench warfare is the most logical and best choice, the GRAD Rocket System is the best and most efficient; the HiMARS is useless against well spread-out trench networks.

@nosku11

6 ай бұрын

Grad platform, minus the ammo is roughly $12.5k. Price of a Land Cruiser

Simple, because good enough to get the job done!!! Not 3 minutes, 30 seconds! I know that, my unit used them to back in the days.

A simple guidance system will make this grad a formidable battlefield weapon

The key for any artillery is moving to a new position immediately after launching. This vehicle surpasses the slow moving but armored Toss 1 and 1a.

They use it because it's simple and effective for that type of battlefield and it works and they use it for the same reason the West gave Ukraine all their OLD weapons platform to make room for all the new 5th generation weapons they're producing🤷🏾‍♂️

The population of Russia is 146 million people. And the population of Ukraine is less than 25 million people. The difference in population is 6 times. And even if we assume that one-to-one losses occur in the war, then for Ukraine these losses are six times more catastrophic than for Russia. This is pure mathematics without any impurities

"Why does America still deploy this 100 year old M2 machine gun?" "Why does America still deploy this 75 year old B-52 bomber?

Because it's cool, effective, scary and cheap

Because it can rain hell on enemy combatants and is cheap

This weapon system is pretty old now but all of this was news to me. Very interesting

@user-cm1uu6zq3k

6 ай бұрын

Ака74, тоже старый. Как сказал терминатор, старый не значит бесполезный 😁🤷

Huge stockpile, relatively very cheap, saturation , psychological effect … why not?

those Weapons may be a bit slower a few more manual jobs - but all Soldiers know how to handle it. The Teams with more modern tools work at different region. First the Grad Rockets fly up to 37:km. The most Types 13 to 23 km. there are at least 2 Mio Rockets available. Its wrong there is at least one Rockets with Glonass und GPS support. Calculation is trained and easy for most of the Guys. Some may have Watches calculation based on Sound.

@kameraldbahrul3432

6 ай бұрын

Tornado G have maximum range 40 km

This outdated product is causing more damage than himars lol

The suitability of weapons systems to carry out specific tasks determines the decision to deploy them in battle. I do not see why Russia should not use something just because it has been around for too many decades...U2spy planes are still in operation as well as B52 bomber..B52 has been around since the 50s

@mikezyto3063

6 ай бұрын

is the Browning 50 cal outdated?NO, new pricy overengineered weapons does not deem old armament to be less effective than previous

@adambussert3383

5 ай бұрын

Use what you got . It’s that simple

@user-uy8wx4pk4h

Ай бұрын

America bought the stryker which cost $4.9M each lmao. A lightly armored truck that can't go off-road and can't fight in the line for 5 million bucks

Grads is for leveling cities. It was used to defeat nazis in Berlin and its not going anywhere. Also any war with weak nato will be all out nukes so Russian isn't concerned.

They are randomly shooting anywhere. No precision strike.

It’s an artillery piece. That’s why. Funny how heavy machine guns can smash through any military truck no matter what country.

It ain't stupid if it works, period

Old but Gold Easy maintenance, low cost and is still working ? Yes, so no problem.

Bonne question.... le TornadoG serait tellement plus efficace! En plus la portee passe de 20 a 40kms et on sait que les serbes ont des grad 122mm qui vont a 57 ou 58kms. Une portee doublée place l equipage en securité puisque 20kms c est souvent a 10-15kms du front donc a la fois a portee de mortier, d aetillerie et maintenant les drones FPV russes vont jusqu a 10kms. La roquette est pas chere 2000€ mais a 20kms la precision n est pas la meme qu a 10kms et contre une armee equipée les artilleurs sont des kamikazes surtout qu il n a pas glonass pr se situer il faut faire ensuite les calculs... pire alors qu un grand nombre de tornadoG commencaient a remplacer le grd on pouvait esperer que la perte de centaines de modeles finissent de les remplacer par le tornadoG mais non alors qu en plus on pourrait questionner sur le changement de camion pour avoir un vehicule plus performant franchissement en vitesse avec uune mitrailleuse teleoperee de toit vue la distance de travail il est plus que possible de tomber sur des DRG ennemis... Enfin il y a la doctrine. Il est pas prevu dans l armee russe un deploiement important de rockettes de 300mm alors que le tornadoS est vraiment une arme a deployer on voit que c est le meme camion qui est utilisé pour le nouveau TOS2. Mais deja une remise a niveau de tous les MLRS au standard TornadoS&G ca serait super.

@sahachas9062

6 ай бұрын

Всё есть у нас

Have you ever seen an m113? Its a rocket system guy. They blow up when they land and enemy dies

Running low ….Russia ? Are you kidding? Their MIC is running 24/7 and just pumping out the gear.

The news ones are still not used, they are using 75% of soviet era weapons stock in Ukraine war. And they only used 12-15% of It till now.

Its a mrls. It's not supposed to be too accurate and it doesn't need protection against smallarms fires I mean its basically an artillery piece if enemy troops are anywhere near it, then somebody should be fired. Ofc protection from drones and fragments would be nice

It's simple and still gets the job done, it's cheap and easy to produce, maintain and operate.

Cheap and abundant is the key in the war of attrition

Numerous and simple, more than 2000 systems, expendable in comparaison to heavier- longer range Uragan and new Tornado, numerous, cheap and easy to produce ammo, and ammo can be imported from allies such as Iran and north korea (the case now). An upgraded version called Tornado-G is in production/old BM-21 modernization.

For the same reason RPG-7 is still alive and kicking - extreme mobility and reliability. Ural-4320 is a fast truck that just can't quit and 40 122mm rockets are nothing to sneeze at either. Minimal logistical overhead as all it needs is good recon, dirt cheap ammo and some diesel.

Range 328 ft? Maybe the minimum range

After firing salvoes, the Grad 21's transport truck drives away to another location thus avoiding being targetted by the enemy.

Cost effective for large scale conflicts works great

Russia just got 10 million shells including grads from North Korea, plus it is quadrupling or more domestic military production, NATO is doomed.

190,000 Ukrainian casualties (NYT) 8-18-2023 From American inteligence report. Most with a brain will agree that it's 200,000 + by now. Some would say it's 250,000 +

Five batteries can blanket an area the size of Madison Park, destroying anything in its path.

A weapons is never an outdated weapon when it is stil in used

China, Iran and even India provide an important number of key components to the Russian armaments design and production industry.

it cheap and effective. the vehicle use mobility over armor and every artillery crew know that once they fire their load, they have to get out of the area fast before return to sender happen.

@malonga2098

6 ай бұрын

This one killed me return to sender

In the business world cost saving is an strategy. Still works

Russian observation and targetting drones increase the accuracy of the Grad missile launching system.

It’s cheap and quantity has a quality all of its own.

range of 350ft? thats absurd........

What matters is reliability and effectiveness, not age.

IT IS VERY USEFUL 😊

If it still kicks n does work it's not outdated. USA shud look at their own arsenal. B2 bomber, Ma Deuce r outdated as well but it's still being use.

No, Grad doesn't mean hail in russian🤦😂

@andreyvolynkin1507

6 ай бұрын

Yes, it does

@Kadzuki

6 ай бұрын

@@jasminekica, "Grad" in Russian is literally "hailstorm" as a natural phenomenon ("shower/volley" is also a distant variant, though not literally, but characterising the essence of the weapon). That is, the "hailstorm" missiles shower the earth with hailstones.

@andreivaughn1468

5 ай бұрын

lol why so boldly try to talk about something you don't know about. That is literally what it translates to...

Russia has a lot of rockets in their stockpile. They don't have to import any parts for the rocket. Any rocket without a GPS or enertial navigation is aimed manually. The West use them too in their MLRS. The technology hasn't changed much. Just saying.

The grad nade to be upgrade also the rocket system to guided system

this grad may more cheaper than 1 gmlrs missile

I would sure love to own the truck obviously without the rockets and launcher. Great on the farm or in the woods logging

Because it shoots 2-3 dozen missiles still?....

Give me the grad over the hmrs any day of the week week

It's an efficient way of conducting war.

I think it's in here for the long run, since it's an area weapon and not a point weapon, there is no point in having an ultra modern and ulta expensive solution to it. It's not meant to hit targets of opportunity that have been identified and pin-pointed, it's purpose is to engage large formations and wipe clean areas in a very timely manner and a low cost.

We have heard these stories before..what is wrong with these neocons and their acolytes???

If it works!

Yea but its all algebra and maps,there not precise but each one has 40 rockets say you have four trucks aim at fob,one fire volleys of three to see where rockets land,boom puts in his dkoing book gives coorditnate now your fob is under 160 rockets thats scary asf

Fast, cheap, easy to produce and also kills

Is this channel run by the same guy who has defense TV channel?

Do a little bit of research before posting a video on something, Grad has a range of 20km it can fire all 40 missiles in 30 seconds, after that he can reposition and it takes just 3 minutes to reload. It covers a large land mass and they have a large number of them so it's logical to use them in conflict like this one. Russia has a number of more modern and more precise systems but in a front line over 1200km long and fighting is this fierce it is impossible to use only the latest weapons. They fire sometimes in a day as the US did in the entire Desert storm.

Only accurate up to 325 ft but can fly 12-25 miles ????

Russian has thousands of old Soviet weapons and millions of ammunition . Russia is smart using old weapons in huge numbers that way they get very effective. While not using and hoarding new advance weapons for future larger war with west

Whe have to help Russia rebuild weapons stockpile with a donation to counterfeit sanctions

It takes ground

Brag 21 2000 dollar for missiles hmrs 100.00 dollars for one so you take your pick

The US/UK/EU are traditionally known to produce very high- tech & super expensive weaponry. Strangely, the USA/UK/EU haven't won a single significant engagement since WW II. Russian equipment, though portrayed as cheap & low end operates on the principle of..."It rattles & it bangs but it gets you there"! 😅

It's still can kill even it's outdated

Are they outdated?

Soviet stockpiles

Dont old weapons kill

0:57 Because... As Tod Howard and Elon Musk said: "It just works."

Russia has vast natural resources and raw materials available to its weapon-making industry.

They have it lot and it kills.

cheap battle-proven can launch cluster too

It maybe outdated to you but not for the users

Hi tech weapons are being saved for US war

When you conduct a war everything and anything that works applies. Not weather is upto date or so much superior. It does the job.

Grad is city in russian is it not ? Like StalinGrad

@enhancedutility266

6 ай бұрын

No grad stands for hail in Russian It's not named after a city

@matovicmmilan

6 ай бұрын

​@@enhancedutility266 Well the term Grad does have dual meaning, the difference is in accent: for city it's Graad with long "a" while for hail it's GRaD with extremely short "a". Right?

@mgtowstanleyzoltanov9808

6 ай бұрын

In Bulgarian, Macedonian Serbian and many other languages Grad means city so I assume at least 50 percent of what ou say is right. @@matovicmmilan

Grad with drone is very devistating. Problem is grads outdated targeting system, and fucking reload time.

cheap and they probably have a large stock of amo

BM21 is no joke. It can destroy or kill ma's troops in a single or multiple strikes. 😂😂😂😂

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