Why does an Irish football club logo feature the Ottoman flag?
Irish football club Drogheda United features an iteration of the Ottoman flag on its logo. But what is the relationship between a club founded in a small Irish town and the great Turkish empire 3,000 kilometres away? The story behind this starts with tragedy...
#Ireland #PotatoFamine #DroghedaUnited
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The Sultan Abdulmejid actually offered ten times as much as the figure stated but The British 'Famine Queen' victoria refused it as she didn't permit any offer equal or more to her measly £2000. The 'Famine' was a result of a slow and systematic genocide that lasted over 300 years that methodically aimed to destroy Irish culture and devastate the land and people.
@bebinca
14 күн бұрын
@@Theworldsucks-kg5jvcope and seethe ... guess you didn't read any news or history
@Theworldsucks-kg5jv
14 күн бұрын
@@bebinca hahaha, I know history than you guys What he said, is just story nothing else
@Theworldsucks-kg5jv
14 күн бұрын
@@bebinca hahaha, I know history more than you guys What he said is nothing but than a mere story
@edwardbrady5843
14 күн бұрын
No, that is the correct history on the matter, read any book on the Irish famine and you will find it verified, presuming you can read?
@StylinRed
14 күн бұрын
@@Theworldsucks-kg5jvyou realise the ottoman empire was the dominant global empire during its time right?
Irish people are honest,brave,industrious and kind❤
@TheAnonymousKnightOfJustice
14 күн бұрын
The info we didn't needed,but one to cherish. If you actually search irish culture,their culture is actually very beautiful and great. I mean their myths are great. I wish they are rich and can make novels about themselves
@Kamel718
14 күн бұрын
@@TheAnonymousKnightOfJustice yep, i know something about them.There is a channel where i watched a video about irish myths. The channel name is Mysterious middle east.
@Theworldsucks-kg5jv
14 күн бұрын
@@Kamel718 Sanit Patrick was from Ireland
@18Ty
14 күн бұрын
@@Theworldsucks-kg5jv wales.. while the Irish were slavers
@Kamel718
14 күн бұрын
@@Theworldsucks-kg5jv Sorry, i dont know who is sanit patrick!
Native American's, Palestinian's & Irish people have & are having same fate.
@abcxyz3028
14 күн бұрын
All the countries UK colonize, including Australia, NZ and Asia..Not only that, they sent criminals to the west for their crimes. Yikes, it seems almost the whole world. The locals were either keil or programmed that the west is superior.. Sadly, non-western people still think highly of westerners incl their looks. While some also look down on their own people for being backwards..Remember, the grass isn't always greener on the other side.
@lilliankeane5731
13 күн бұрын
Yes the Choctaw the original American tribe and Türkey gave us aid. They heard our story of hunger and had empathy for us as human beings. Then as now we are grateful for the empathy shown to our brothers and sisters and those still in need of sustenance and justice around the world.
@gandalfgreen7230
13 күн бұрын
So true...
@mrunknown1144
13 күн бұрын
@@epona1525And the Azeris who died by the hand of Armenian forces and Mobs and had to leave their home land Karabakh. Don't forget about the killed turks in Cyprus by the hand of Greeks. And the Muslims who were killed by Hindu mobs in India & Those Muslims who had to leave mother land which is todays India. And those Muslims in Medina who were killed because of the Jews broke a war trity with the Muslims and lended their force to the enemy of Muslims.
@africa.austral
13 күн бұрын
@@epona1525 TOTAL CLAPTRAP BUNKUM❕
It’s pronounced dro-huh-duh! It wasn’t famine either it was genocide! There was more than enough food available! The Brit’s done the same thing in India!
@Hasanbas-rv3vm
13 күн бұрын
True
@AC_Milan1899
13 күн бұрын
The depths of British cruelty know no bounds.
@geocritic3577
12 күн бұрын
The British did the same to my people in Southeast Asia as well
@Hasanbas-rv3vm
12 күн бұрын
@@geocritic3577 thats what he meant bengal famine
@geocritic3577
12 күн бұрын
@@Hasanbas-rv3vm I am not from Bengal 😂 but the British did something similar to my people when we revolted against British rule in the 1890s
🇮🇪🇹🇷🇵🇸 Our ancestors did the right thing by helping those in need.
@Silurist
3 күн бұрын
Which is funny because after the Napoleonic war, Arab Muslims came under the protection of the British Empire. The Palistinan flag is based on the Arab Revolt flag, because the Arabs was fighting alongside Britain and France in WW1. Winston Churchill said to the American president not to break peace with the Muslims.
About 20 years ago, when I was a kid, I used to see my father read a book titled, "Potato People" by Angela Wright with the cover of a yellow thin man that look like a dead person. I never read that book and by looking at the cover, I thought it was about people that do not eat potato because of famine. I didn't know it has a deeper meaning about oppression, injustice and colonisation. Now, I got to find and start read the book.
@syafiqsya465
13 күн бұрын
Read same book as part of English literature education.
Wow I’ve learnt something new at 63. My mother was 15 when she immigrated from Italy to London, her best and trusted friends were Irish. A great nation for sure!!
The choctaw (first americans) also helped us. Respect to the Türkish and Choctaw people. 🙏🙌♥️.
@AfroGaz71
3 күн бұрын
The Irish repaid the Choctaw during COVID with the people of the country donating approximately $2.5 million to them. It's great to see such appreciation and respect.
Wow this is a difficult and also a beautiful part of history. I'm so happy that Ireland honoured the help and is helping fight against the horrific Genocide by Israel against the innocent ppl.
@KappaKiller108
12 күн бұрын
When people cheer in the streets, because they saw the naked body of a dead 16 year old girl getting dragged behind a truck it's hard to claim innocence
@ultravioletsus
10 күн бұрын
@@KappaKiller108I am pretty sure the entire Palestinian population was cheering for that single girl rather than having a bit of revenge against what has been done to them for 75 years because those who died in Oct 7th were similar to the Palestinians who were dying for more than 70 years since 1947. Your Western mindset is ridiculous 😂
@williamTobith
9 күн бұрын
Palestinian were a latin term from lands within levant or northern mediterranian sea it was given by hadrian to the region judea and samartia ever since it had been stuck since the palestinian or the arabs people were also a invader coming from the arabian peninsuela overtime they replaced the jews and the christian population palestinian start to intermarried with the native semitic levantine people which palestine gain canaan dna from the local israelite then in turn the israelite invader from mostly ukraine and russia or ashkenazi come to israel as an invader against the palestinian arab invader also both side did bad genocide so nah unlike the irish they dont do nuthin
@user-sd8oi8xw5d
9 күн бұрын
@@williamTobithso you mean to tell that palestine an country that was invaded so many times is an invader
@williamTobith
8 күн бұрын
@@user-sd8oi8xw5d yes ahmad you learnt something new everyday
Nice story.gratitude
Beautiful story
God bless the Turks! Also, let's not forget the Cherokee, Chickasaw, and other Native Nations who gave from their meager resources to aid the Irish, all the while in exile themselves. God bless ALL the Tribes of Turtle Island! ❤
In 2011 there was famine is somalia 🇸🇴 that killed 300,000 people and world 🌎 turned its back to my people's severing. It was turkish president who went there despite security concern and turkey 🇹🇷 extended its helping hand to somalis. We won't forget!
@lionheart3429
9 күн бұрын
Yeah where was the arab world to care for Somalia? Like they do for Palestine
@user-wq8ui4qj8y
8 күн бұрын
@@lionheart3429they are traitors ,i mean the leaders
@ahklakurrahmanthekash1813
8 күн бұрын
@@lionheart3429they even do nothing for Palestine 😢😢
@user-il4cd3kw4n
7 күн бұрын
@@lionheart3429 Arabs they can’t even help themselves let alone help someone else
@LETGAZALIVE2024
6 күн бұрын
@@lionheart3429 not arabs but dictators don't care. Arab people are good
Ottoman empire are still respect n prominent due to its justice system great wish world follow this system
@columlynch4229
4 күн бұрын
The Ottomans were far from perfect. They also carried out genocide to the Armenians.
Never been to Ireland, but because of its history, struggles, and unique culture, there is always a warm spot for them in My heart..Also, because they know what it is to live under colonization and their enduring support for Palestinians.. Long Live Ireland.
@baileygregory9192
9 күн бұрын
They really don't, barely any one alieve to day was alive during colonisation or experienced it.
@user-sd8oi8xw5d
9 күн бұрын
@@baileygregory9192then explain why ireland supported palestine
@baileygregory9192
8 күн бұрын
@@user-sd8oi8xw5dthe same reason spain or Norway do. Because they view what's happening as wrong
@siogbeagbideach
8 күн бұрын
@@baileygregory9192 Balfour is called Bloody Balfour in Ireland due to his ordering police to shoot protestors in Cork. Churchill.....well he sent the Black and Tans to fight us, once they were finished here they went to Palestine. Look for the pic of the Loughnane Brothers from Gort to get an idea of how brutal the Tans could be. A few miles from where I live, there is a mass grave from Gorta Mór ( Great Hunger 1840s) times. They dot the land. Most folk wouldn't notice them. Simple fields. A cross. Don't ever think we will forget them. I grew up in the west, a 70s/ 80s child, I have vivid memories of what the TV beamed into our homes.....political prisoners on hunger strikes in the north stand out plus the daily reports of the latest mayhem. Thatcher. Paisley. A peacekeeper from my community is missing in Lebanon since the 80s, I was tiny then but I remember that too, our young man lies over there connecting us forever to the people in those lands. One of the 48 Irish who have lost their lives working as peacekeepers in Lebanon over the decades. The stories my grandparents told me are alive in memory, directly reported by those who lived it. They were children during our war for Independence, so while true no one here in the Republic now was alive during British rule, you forget that those that were alive then, told us their stories. ...and their grandparents were alive during the Gorta Mór to tell them. We used to have bards in days gone by, oral stories passed down from generation to generation, that's how it's all remembered, by the telling. Free Palestine 🕊
@polocuinn7585
6 күн бұрын
Much love to Palestine, from Ireland.
love ottoman empire from India the decended of mughal empire
@Theworldsucks-kg5jv
14 күн бұрын
Fool
@bebinca
14 күн бұрын
@@Theworldsucks-kg5jvmay the Ottomans return
@Theworldsucks-kg5jv
14 күн бұрын
@@bebinca no need of that beggar empire to return
@bebinca
14 күн бұрын
@@Theworldsucks-kg5jv your saying so won't stop what's destined 👏
@WORLDISMYFAMILY7
14 күн бұрын
@@Theworldsucks-kg5jv bro they can brought your whole generation 😂
In USA , the native americans resistance group leaders like Sitting Bull, Black Hawk , Crazy Horse etc. were called terrorists by the British imigrants colonial gov. In India, Mahatma GANDHI was jailed & called terrorist by the British colonial gov. In Malaya now Malaysia, the local resistance leader like Mat Kilau was called terrorist. In South Africa, Nelson Mandela was jailed & called a Terrorist by the Pretoria Apartheid gov. In Libya, Omar Mukhtar ( LION OF THE DESERT) leader of the local resistance group was called terrorist by the Italian colonial gov. In Ireland, the IRA was called a Terrorist group by the Britain gov. All over the globe, a person or a group of people whom resist the occupation of theirs land by the British, USA, Germany, French, Poturgal, Spanish or Italy colonial gov. were called TERRORISTS by them. In the 911 USA incident, it was named " terrorists attack " by the US gov. Then why this time they called the attackers terrorist, but when the US Army attack or invade other country they call the local resistance group there terrorist?
@beckiejani7782
13 күн бұрын
My son always quotes, "One person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter."
@ww-jl3eq
13 күн бұрын
9 11 is not the same Usa didn't invade until afterwards
@harimauindia5775
13 күн бұрын
Abang, I understand, but 9/11 was very much a terrorist attack. It killed 3,000 civilians who were far from the warzone
@makkahcadey
13 күн бұрын
And Somalia resisted and the leader of the Resistance Sayyid Muhammad Abdullah Hassan was named the “The Mad Mullah”
@marivaldosena452
13 күн бұрын
Calling resistance groups t****** is a way to gain support at home to continue the invasion. At the same time, it dissuades the indigenous people to help their freedom fighters because they don't know what's the truth and what's imperial propaganda.
Just read about the Bengal famine during World War II .. 4 million died... In 1757, the British East India Company, an instrument of British Imperialism got control of Bengal. It was the richest state in the Mughal Empire prior to that, afterwards, it became the poorest and many perished due to successive famines. Australia , Canada, US, India, wherever the British went, they have a legacy of soaked in blood
@WildDisease72
13 күн бұрын
Yes even native Australians Canadians Americans British leaving their native land, turning their backs on it
@johnmcintyre800
11 күн бұрын
They didn't call the British flag the butchers apron for nothing
@mdashrafulalam3469
10 күн бұрын
I read in a history book that in WWII, Japan attacked bengal, but british soldiers didn’t wanted to face them on the frontline. Rather they just burned down villages and all food deposits to deprive japanese from supplies and slow them down. That caused the famine. British are truly remarkable creatures. Now in Bangladesh the word British is used as a slang which means extremely bad and cunning person.
@AhmedMushtaq-ux9wu
9 күн бұрын
Actual figure is near 15 millions the size of the area was larger than Western Europe
@Dokemsy
8 күн бұрын
@@mdashrafulalam3469in my country we sometimes called a greed person as a Dutchmen, yes, we were occupied by the Netherlands for hundreds of years.
And nowadays these people lecture us about humanity, morality and freedom.
The Sultan had actually planed to donate 10,000 pounds but didn't out of diplomacy because Queen Victoria herself was only donating 2000.
@Theworldsucks-kg5jv
13 күн бұрын
Even I have heard this but this only a story This didn't happen
@LisaD-yy4gq
13 күн бұрын
@@Theworldsucks-kg5jv It's not only "a story" but, true correct history and facts.
@Theworldsucks-kg5jv
13 күн бұрын
@@LisaD-yy4gq it's is only a story
@vatsal7640
13 күн бұрын
@@LisaD-yy4gqno it isn't. Queen victoria was the largest donar during the famine.
@LisaD-yy4gq
13 күн бұрын
@@vatsal7640 She gave 2000 and refused the Sultan to embarrassed her and give higher than her, demanding him to give lesser so she could look good.
Man-made famine.
Lots of love and respect to my Irish brothers and sisters love you all ❤️
Lovely story
Turkey showing them the Islamic way
Respect to turkiye from Ireland
Thanks to Irish people who remember their supporter Turkie, when Ireland had hardest time. Love from Pakistan 🇵🇰
That’s a period of the real truth ummah of Mohammed saw
May Allah bless the Sultan of Great Ottoman Empire, Empire which makes whole ummah proud ❤
@admiral20055
10 күн бұрын
amin,.,
That Symbol, Star and Cresent is on the Street Name Signs in Drogheda 😇🇮🇪
@Joseph13163
11 күн бұрын
as it has been since the crusades and the towns beginning nothing whatsoever to do with this non event.Its only a story no basis in fact other than the sultan donating 1000 pounds
@TheLastAngryMan01
3 күн бұрын
It used to be the name of a pub/night club in the town.
@richardbarrow6606
Күн бұрын
@@TheLastAngryMan01 I know 😇 I drank in it, Trinity Street 🇮🇪
@TheLastAngryMan01
Күн бұрын
@@richardbarrow6606 As did I! Had a few too many purple hazes in there back in the day.
The Irish are ok with honouring an empire which slaughtered 1,000,000 Armenians?
@stephenchappell7512
7 күн бұрын
and sponsored Barbary Piracy that enslaved thousands of Europeans including Irish
@TheLastAngryMan01
3 күн бұрын
This was almost a century before the events you make reference to.
This incident makes it clear that there was only one empire truly on earth that time and it was Great Ottoman Empire
@terry6985
6 күн бұрын
Armenians probably would disagree...
Because they're Irish, they're fine with Imperialism and Colonialism as long it isn't the Brits doing it.
@OldSkoolWax
4 күн бұрын
lol WAT
@JobHuntingAbroad
4 күн бұрын
God there's some right doses on the Internet 😂
A two minute video made me cry.
Also the Portsmouth FC badge
The G is silent in Drogheda and the Irish people did not simply just starve over a potato. The British stole the harvests and left the Irish to die.
@seanbarrett2629
6 күн бұрын
There was a fair amount of large lrish farmers who also exported food to Britain at this time, it was only poor and landless lrish who starved or emigrated
I lived in America for a while. Because of my appearance, Americans always assumed I was Irish at first. They were very surprised when I told them I was Turkish. This piqued my interest in Ireland, and I read about this incident. I felt proud of my heritage. The Irish are one of the two or three peoples in Europe that I respect the most.
@siogbeagbideach
5 күн бұрын
Our dna traces back to Anatolia, y chromosome of Irish men analysed, so we mainly come from the expansion of farmers neolithic times
@siogbeagbideach
5 күн бұрын
Looked a bit closer at your pic, you could be from the west of Ireland with that profile of yours. In summers, some of us tan like we're from the Med, then in winter we go back to pale. There a filmmaker, Bob Quinn, who made "Atlantaen " , a Turkish channel had uploaded it last time I checked so it's on KZread. He investigated Irish connection to N Africa and Middle East- music, dance, singing, art etc made in tbe 80s, it's really good.
5 күн бұрын
@@siogbeagbideach I have very fair skin. My beard is red and my hair is chestnut brown.
@siogbeagbideach
5 күн бұрын
Ahh nice. If you ever do visit here, anywhere along the west coast is best, our islands are lovely. I will definitely visit Türkiye one day
5 күн бұрын
@@siogbeagbideach Yes, yes, I will definitely visit Ireland within the next 2-3 years. It's one of the four countries in Europe I want to see. Of course, come to Turkey. Enjoy the wonderful sea and nature.
Another football club, Bohemians in Dublin, played the Palestinian women's national football team in front of a sold out crowd on Thursday last. The Palestinian national anthem was played to great respect and Palestine won the game 2-1. Saoirse don Phalaistín ☘
@Beanbag777
7 күн бұрын
Woke
@AnBreadanFeasa
7 күн бұрын
@@Beanbag777 Lazy
@Beanbag777
7 күн бұрын
@@AnBreadanFeasa have the played Yemen, Syria, Sudan , Congo ??? No only woke agenda countries get highlighted
@JobHuntingAbroad
4 күн бұрын
@@Beanbag777rather be woke than asleep, bring it on...
Don't forget Brother Walfrid from Sligo who founded Celtic football club to help the impoverished Irish emigrants in the east end of Glasgow. 🙏
This is an excellent video. Thank you very much! 🙂 👏👏👏
This is an amazing story!!!
@davidpryle3935
10 күн бұрын
And that’s exactly what it is, a story. It never happened.
@laidback9364
8 күн бұрын
its not true, The Star and Crescent coat of arms of Drogheda in fact dates back to the year 1210 AD. 'In April of the year 1185, the then Prince John made his first visit to Ireland where he granted extensive lands to the trusted Royal Administration with one of these being Bertram de Verdun who was found in Drogheda at this time. 'During his stay in Ireland the young Prince, who was then only 19 years of age, established the foundation of Administration and Law, which he later expanded upon in his second expedition to Ireland in his reign as King in the year 1210.' Prince John returned to England in December of the year 1185 and by this time Hugh de Lacy was establishing the town of Drogheda. Walter de Lacy, son of Hugh was then granted the town's first Charter in 1194 and by the time King John arrived back in Drogheda in 1210, the town was flourishing. John's Coat of Arms was that of the Star and Crescent, taken from earlier expeditions with the Crusades to the Near East and so, by his own Charter to the town of Drogheda, the symbol of the Star and Crescent prevailed, the very same symbols appearing on coinage struck in Ireland at this time. 'Incidentally, the symbol of the Star and Crescent also appears in sculpture over the thrones in St Patrick's Cathedral in Dublin, which was also erected during his Lordship of Ireland. This is from local historians from Drogheda, sourced from an Irish Independent Article. Additionally, the symbol of the Star and Crescent representing the Coat of Arms of Drogheda and having no connection with the Turkish flag, the same symbol appears on the flags of the East Turkistan Republic, Pakistan, Tunisia and Malaysia.'
@davidpryle3935
8 күн бұрын
@@laidback9364 Correct and right. Interesting to note that Portsmouth in England has the same crest of the star and crescent, having also received it’s town charter from King John.
Go Ireland!
Don't let this distract you from the armenia genocide and NATO troops in northern Iraq accused of sexually assulting kurdish women.
@Joseph13163
5 күн бұрын
Yes though ireland is not in NATO so atleast we can not be accused of those reprehensible actions
@dec3142
4 күн бұрын
@@Joseph13163 Turkey is though
What a beautiful story, thank you!
@Joseph13163
5 күн бұрын
Thats all it is a beautiful story never happened
Just a correction, the town is pronounced Dro-heda. I live in the area. I think it's also interesting that the Turkish club, Trabzonspor, share the same colours as Drogheda United, and Drogheda Utd are like a sister club to them. They support each other and Trabzonspor fans even sent donations to the Drogheda team when the club were in financial difficulty, around the late 2000's.
I have never heard of this before. Thank you so much. I was aware of the donation of the Choctaw Nation which was extraordinary considering the tragedy of the Native Americans. The persecution of the Palestinians has always been an important issue for Irish people because our history is so similar and brutal.
Ireland support for Palestine has elevated both Ireland and Palestine on world stage.. more countries are noticing if you support Palestine and reject Israel/US, greater bounties await them
Helping people and not forgetting the given Help are both plausible, only people with honour and diginity can do this ... lets make this world a better place.
🇮🇪🇵🇸🇹🇷✊️
@Beanbag777
7 күн бұрын
Yawn
Helping fellow humans. Unless you're not one....
I've got that Drogheda crest as apin badge. Erin go bragh !! ☘️☘️☘️☘️🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
❤
Drogheda United is also officially sister club with the Turkish club Trabzonspor which has the same colors. Weird that a channel like TRT World doesn't say that.
Alhamdulillah.
No, the donation was 10,000 pounds and not 1000 pounds
@Theworldsucks-kg5jv
13 күн бұрын
That's only a legend Actually Ottoman Empire gave the least
@farukkonuralpeser2906
13 күн бұрын
@@Theworldsucks-kg5jv kıskançlık ve iftira. Osmanlı vicdan sahibi bir toplumdur.
@Theworldsucks-kg5jv
13 күн бұрын
@@farukkonuralpeser2906 İngiltere, Fransa ve Almanya'nın merhametiyle yaşayan dilenci devlet Osmanlı
@fantasticmoments5899
12 күн бұрын
@@Theworldsucks-kg5jv whatever dude.. its weird though that the Irish put up a lot of Turkish symbols markers that survived until today to commemorate such a measly donation. 🤷♂️
@Theworldsucks-kg5jv
12 күн бұрын
@@fantasticmoments5899 I must remind the Irish People and all those Europeans who love Ottoman Empire that barbery pirates were under Ottomans Empire The one who started the Barbary slave trade and black sea slave trade was Ottoman Empire What Ottoman Empire did in Balkans, Caucasus and in Middle East they should see
This take is so out of context and bonkers.
And how the Queen made the funds lower than hers by requesting and British ships blocked the aid ships from giving the food
❤ Love For Ireland ❤
mercy and helping others is the key reason I love my religion.
Thank you to our Turkish brothers and sisters. ❤
The "g" in Drogheda is silent.
The G is silent in Drogheda.
Ottoman was the best for the world, now I see One eye people in the Middle East or they are not Umma of Nabi
@LennyBennny
14 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@IDFDAJJALARMY
14 күн бұрын
Keep away your jealousy, hasad, slander and stupidity, you shouldn't talk badly about your other Muslim brothers
@Theworldsucks-kg5jv
13 күн бұрын
Yeah say that in Balkans and Caucasus and in Middle East
@williamTobith
9 күн бұрын
what a joke😂😂 the christian population or original inhabitant of asia minor ciliclia and All of armenia didnt even recovered yet you want to revive the empire the arabs didnt even want to be apart of it😂😂
Unfortunately I don't believe this is true. The star and Cresent as a representation of Drogheda pre-dates the famine. The Star and Crescent was given to the town by King John of England when he granted the town a charter in 1194.
@emreakkas5546
9 күн бұрын
The story of ottomans help is truth but drogheda crescent symbol isn't related to this aid
🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪❤❤❤
Music pls
May the greatest empire resurrect and reclaim the world.☪️
@trkbytzar
14 күн бұрын
We do not seek to extend our borders
@mirmuhammadahsanali8833
14 күн бұрын
@@trkbytzar I am not talking about the borders. The Zionists already own the powerful Arab leaders without invading their countries. I am talking about the leadership of the Ummah. This Glory is not for nationalists, seculars, communists or any other ideologues. Allah swt gives glory to those who only obey him.
@trkbytzar
14 күн бұрын
@@mirmuhammadahsanali8833 I see, however, we do not seek this either. Our foundation is secular. Besides, the last time the Turks ruled over the Arabs they were backstabbed. The Arabs will have to figure out how to rule themselves.
@DedeMehmet
14 күн бұрын
You are only 1 in 85 million who are you to decide that@@trkbytzar
@mirmuhammadahsanali8833
14 күн бұрын
@@trkbytzar the Ummah doesn't mean only Arabs but all Muslims. The majority of the Ummah appreciate the ottomans. Who doesn't understand the concept of ummah and mix it up with races and national identities, can't recognize himself as from the glorious empire by saying "we". And I have already said that Allah gives the leadership of Ummah to those who obey him i.e. followers of Quran & Sunnah. And I don't see in history that, secularism was in the foundation of the ottoman empire.
Ireland was not a colony
Ireland was in the act of union by that time
@stephenchappell7512
7 күн бұрын
Exactly they were British subjects
We miss you ottoman empire 😢
@freebeerfordworkers
5 күн бұрын
Well in 1922 they completed massacring the Greeks driving them out of the country they'd lived on for 5000 years to create modern Turkey.
Ironic really when you know what the Irish think about the British Empire yet honour another empire who also did lots of bad things
The new Turkish Sultan wished to give £10, 000's but the Englishman in charge of dealing with the Turkish Empire said that it would look bad if he gave more than Queen Victoria. When asked how much she was giving he was told £2,000's He replied that he would match this but was convinced to give only £1,000's in order to make it look as if the British Queen was the most generous donor. The English then wonder why the Irish bite the hand that didn't feed them.
Ottoman Empire still has a lot to say in this defect world. Phoenix will rise again for sure
Ireland has been suferring so much from Christian colonialism
The pronunciation of ‘Drogheda ‘ is a little off in this narration. The ‘g’ is in fact silent.
@davidpryle3935
10 күн бұрын
The whole story is “a little off”. It never happened.
@lilliankeane5731
9 күн бұрын
@@davidpryle3935 “the whole story” , “it never happened” mmmm, there’s records to suggest you are wrong.
@davidpryle3935
9 күн бұрын
@@lilliankeane5731 That’s the thing you see, there are no records at all of this happening. And the star and crescent has been part of the Drogheda town crest since the town was founded in the 1200s, 600 years before the famine.
@lilliankeane5731
9 күн бұрын
@@davidpryle3935 David.. there is records of it, the donation I mean. There’s mention in newspapers (of the day) of it occurring. The London Times being one of them, ( April 1847 ) wrote of the sultans generosity to the Irish people “ does him great credit” a few days later a religious paper called ‘Church and State Gazette’ wrote: Abdúlmedjid as a ruler “ representing multitudinous Islam populations “ “for his warm sympathies for a Christian nation” I also read somewhere that the £1000 pounds donated was given to a hon Mr Wellesley to be distributed to the needy. But that’s as far as I got. I haven’t researched the claims (either way ) of how the symbols ( crescent & star ) came into being. But in general it seems unfitting for Irish emblems , that being said, as I mentioned I haven’t researched that. All in all its an interesting topic to discuss, but I haven’t got time tonight to research further. Im in Australia and getting some shut eye now for an early start tomorrow. Best of luck to you.
@laidback9364
8 күн бұрын
@@lilliankeane5731 The Star and Crescent coat of arms of Drogheda in fact dates back to the year 1210 AD. 'In April of the year 1185, the then Prince John made his first visit to Ireland where he granted extensive lands to the trusted Royal Administration with one of these being Bertram de Verdun who was found in Drogheda at this time. 'During his stay in Ireland the young Prince, who was then only 19 years of age, established the foundation of Administration and Law, which he later expanded upon in his second expedition to Ireland in his reign as King in the year 1210.' Prince John returned to England in December of the year 1185 and by this time Hugh de Lacy was establishing the town of Drogheda. Walter de Lacy, son of Hugh was then granted the town's first Charter in 1194 and by the time King John arrived back in Drogheda in 1210, the town was flourishing. John's Coat of Arms was that of the Star and Crescent, taken from earlier expeditions with the Crusades to the Near East and so, by his own Charter to the town of Drogheda, the symbol of the Star and Crescent prevailed, the very same symbols appearing on coinage struck in Ireland at this time. 'Incidentally, the symbol of the Star and Crescent also appears in sculpture over the thrones in St Patrick's Cathedral in Dublin, which was also erected during his Lordship of Ireland. This is from local historians from Drogheda, sourced from an Irish Independent Article. Additionally, the symbol of the Star and Crescent representing the Coat of Arms of Drogheda and having no connection with the Turkish flag, the same symbol appears on the flags of the East Turkistan Republic, Pakistan, Tunisia and Malaysia.'
Ottoman Empire, I love you long for you
woow
Prayers for the persecuted Christians 😊
The people who don't forget others favours on them will always be humble and humane. Unlike Israel to who Palestinians favoured and yet they became arrogant and are cutting helping hands.. Difference between good humans and evil humans
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Also the Choctaw Indians sent money to help paddy God bless them
Yes, why?
I know, i know ,the famine and all that...but at least it got the irish out of the house.
Please get the basic facts correct. It was a genocide not a famine.
The way she said Drogheda 😂. Its draw-head-a
Shelbyville
Ask the Armenians about famine.
That’s Illyrian symbol 🇦🇱
Very fascinating and sad story. Glory and thanks to Ottoman Empire!
Ottoman Empire is also a kind of colonial,imperial, political entity created ny invaders who are not Anatolians they are outsiders come from central asia
@stephenchappell7512
7 күн бұрын
Actually their DNA is overwhelmingly Anatolian
Every country stole Illyrian symbols
Love the turkish propaganda.
@e6026
7 күн бұрын
How so?
Irs pronounced as DROHHIDAH....not Drogeeda.
The G is silent
Portsmouth is the same, in the UK. They call Portsmouth “Turk town” and has a Turkish burial cemetery there.
@emreakkas5546
9 күн бұрын
Why? What happened in Portsmouth related to turks?
@spo666tty
6 күн бұрын
@@emreakkas5546 Turks came here for training during the ottoman russian wars. Long history going back centuries
Pompey
Ottomans❤❤❤❤❤❤ 🇵🇰❤🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
They have tried to wipe all natives everywhere they went. The Irish people persevered.
Some years ago, it was reported that a group of British oil workers were ambushed by terrorists as they drove across a Middle Eastern desert. An attacker was about to inflict violence on one man when he tore his shirt open to reveal a large tattoo of a crescent moon surmounted by a gold star. The shock of seeing the very symbol of Islam prominently displayed on a presumed infidel's chest caused much confusion in the minds of the terrorists. They left the men unmolested lest they accidently kill a fellow muslim. The oil worker was a supporter of Portsmouth football club and it was his team's crest that was proudly inked on his flesh. Apart from the colours, the crest is identical to Drogheda's emblem. In the case of Portsmouth, the heavenly bodies reflect the city's naval tradition and the motto "Heaven's light, our guide."
@stephenchappell7512
7 күн бұрын
Yes I forgot about Pompey ⚽
...okay okay, but why they come and fought in Gallipoli against the turks ?
@GettingStressful
7 күн бұрын
The people who fought against the Turks were as usual conned into thinking they were fighting the good fight and as usual the establishment encouraged them along with promises of great things to come, it is still happening all over the planet.