Why Do Singers Lose Their Accent When They Sing?

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Why Do Singers Lose Their Accent When they Sing? Why do British Singers sound American?
0:00 - Intro
1:01 - What Makes Up An Accent? Pamela Vanderway Interview
2:50 - Vowels
5:02 - Consonants
6:49 - Intonation, Melody & Rhythm
8:12 - Placement & Vocal Tract Posture
10:05 - The Psychology and Anthropology of Accents
11:01 - The Birthday Song
11:48 - How Music Genres Form, The Opera Accent
13:35 - Culture and Accent
14:56 - Conclusion
Featured Dialect Coach - Pamela Vanderway (Dialect Coaches Worldwide) www.dialectcoachesworldwide.com
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  • @timmanfredi398
    @timmanfredi3983 жыл бұрын

    Ozzy is the biggest mystery. I don't know what language he's using, when speaking. When he's singing, perfect English.

  • @tracytempleton8618

    @tracytempleton8618

    3 жыл бұрын

    LOL Right?!

  • @scottallen653

    @scottallen653

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ozzy speaks Ozzy.Its a mix of British,alcohol,pills and dain bramage.

  • @Sandy-dd4le

    @Sandy-dd4le

    3 жыл бұрын

    Birmingham, innit.

  • @lordofentropy

    @lordofentropy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, the damage from the decades of alcohol and drugs has magnified his Birmingham accent x1000. It also added extra, I don't know what it is, that downturned corner of the mouth speaking they do.

  • @chadfalardeau5396

    @chadfalardeau5396

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you listen to him speaking for s while, you get used to it

  • @matheus5230
    @matheus52303 жыл бұрын

    Frank Sinatra had perfect diction when singing. Speaking, he had a strong Hoboken accent. He consciously trained himself to eliminate his accent when singing

  • @DougRayPhillips
    @DougRayPhillips3 жыл бұрын

    I remember when The Beatles first came to the U.S. in '64. Yeah, it was weird. In the movie A Hard Day's Night, when just speaking, they had a thick accent (from my perspective), not to mention a different dialect vocabulary. But when singing, they could pass for Americans.

  • @OnceAndFutureKing

    @OnceAndFutureKing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Some Australian actors when they move to the USA to advance their careers had to adopt an American accent in their daily lives because as one of them said (Anthony LaPaglia) "when I go to the grocery store nobody understood me!". 🤣 🤣 🤣 Makes me wonder how on earth Americans understood Crocodile Dundee......that's hillybilly Aussie accent or maybe they used subtitles in American cinemas. 🤣

  • @bluewidow1302

    @bluewidow1302

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me took Doug !

  • @vibesmom

    @vibesmom

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bluewidow1302 I had wondered that when I first got into them in high school. My mother said often people would hide their accent, but that didn’t make sense to me because they never hid their Liverpool accent when speaking to reporters. They did not seem embarrassed in any way about where they came from. But now that I hear this I think in a way my mother may have been into something. It may have been both the fact they were mimicking the tone that those who inspired them had or it’s because it was easier to sing. I believe that’s how they would sing some of their songs in German for the audience. They sang sounds instead of words. Either way, whenever I hear that accent I know someone’s from Liverpool.

  • @BR-hi6yt

    @BR-hi6yt

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mick Jagger too - perfect American when singing and lousy English estuary when talking.

  • @TheMule71

    @TheMule71

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@OnceAndFutureKing As a non native speaker, I find it very interesting how I relate to English accents. I've been taught RP in school. That's probably the hardest to learn for an Italian. Thinking back at the time, many of us were butchering English - or so we thought. Much later I've learned that our pronunciation was closer to some northern accents. I can't hear a mild scottish accent (unless I'm looking for specific markers on purpose), it's more familiar to ma than other accents. In a way, the Australian accent is also familiar. BTW not the thick ones, and anyway it's mostly a matter of words (meaning, it's more a dialect than an accent). OTOH overall I seem to understand an average American better than an average Brit. But I'm very surprised when I see an American having trouble in understanding some northern British accents - I'm not a native speaker, I've never lived there, nor I have any reason to be familar with them, my language is no relative of English, yet I seem to understand those accents better than a native speaker of English. At the same time, some southern American accents are most obscure to me. I love their musicality but I can't understand a word, while it seems not to bother much other Americans (I'm not sure how Brits react to those). Think of McConaughey's accent in the 1st season of True Detectives.

  • @aneophyte1199
    @aneophyte11993 жыл бұрын

    I hear the accents coming through with Dolores O'Riordan and Colin James Hay.

  • @robertcronin6603

    @robertcronin6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes - true

  • @spacemanspiff3052

    @spacemanspiff3052

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh that sweet Irish brogue of Dolores O’Riordan. My jaw dropped and my heart leapt upon hearing “Linger” for the first time. She’s missed.

  • @erikatosoni8595

    @erikatosoni8595

    2 жыл бұрын

    Totally. I was about to write Dolores! She was so unique! 💓

  • @gunnaryoung
    @gunnaryoung3 жыл бұрын

    I heard the song "Melt With You" by Modern English on the radio the other day and realized it was basically impossible to sing along in my American accent.

  • @rickc2102

    @rickc2102

    3 жыл бұрын

    If I sing it in my natural voice, it sounds like it should be a country song, lol.

  • @user-vv4lo5yz3h

    @user-vv4lo5yz3h

    2 жыл бұрын

    Love this song 🙏

  • @kayluv9

    @kayluv9

    2 жыл бұрын

    yesss ha ha

  • @JayTemple

    @JayTemple

    2 жыл бұрын

    I can sing it; I just can't make it sound like them.

  • @catwhisperer9489

    @catwhisperer9489

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's funny, I've been singin' that song since it came-out in 1982, and never realized I was singin' it like them---IOW, with a British accent (I'm American); but, one is forced to because, for instance, he pronounces "better", "betta"!!!

  • @nicholasalves1354
    @nicholasalves13543 жыл бұрын

    Elton John is very fond of New Orleans' unique style of Blues, he grew up listening to that and some other american rock-'n'-rollers. That's why he switches to a more southern american in some of his songs. Sometimes, he's also done it only to make it sound better and fit more gently in the song's metrics. For instance, in "Don't Let the Sun Go Down on me" when Elton sings "don't discard me (...)", He does it in a very american accent 'cause he thought it'd fit better.

  • @SatsumaTengu14
    @SatsumaTengu143 жыл бұрын

    I remember reading an interview with either John Lennon or Paul McCartney where they said they loved Motown in their early years and attempted to copy that accent. Sting said in an interview back in the 1980's that he had intentionally tried to make a unique accent all his own. As a Canadian I am well aware when Canadian singers sound Canadian, like Gordon Lightfoot, Joni Mitchell or the Barenaked Ladies as opposed to many Canadian Country singers who intentionally copy American accents. Look at the Proclaimers, surely no one could sound more Scottish when they sing compared to Rod Stewart for example. Love your videos!

  • @p.millard557

    @p.millard557

    2 жыл бұрын

    Rod Stewart was born and grew up in London. His father was Scottish but his mother was a Londoner. I don't think he ever lived in Scotland.

  • @nickc6369
    @nickc63693 жыл бұрын

    The one I think about most is Robert Plant from Led Zeppelin, because when he sings softly his accent is very present, but when he goes full throttle it totally disappears. "Over the Hills and Far Away" is an excellent example of that. This is opposed to other British Invasion singers like Roger Daltrey and Mick Jagger. Roger's accent disappears entirely no matter what (listen to Behind Blue Eyes), but Mick ALWAYS has his accent on whether he's singing soft or not (Ruby Tuesday vs Sympathy for the Devil)

  • @rolgirremoreas1909
    @rolgirremoreas19093 жыл бұрын

    I was surprised that there was no mention of the “Transatlantic Accent” and it’s place as the “correct” showbiz accent used in the plays and films and musicals of the first half of the 20th century (despite the fact it wasn’t naturally spoken by anybody). I would’ve thought the perception of the correct/classy accent had a major impact on how singing is taught in the west.

  • @NoirL.A.

    @NoirL.A.

    Жыл бұрын

    it never was truly the "correct" stage accent it was basically left up to the individual actor whether they chose to adopt it or not but by the late forties it was pretty much gone just like the fashion trend of everybody wearing hats all the time. american rock n' roll was basically the foundation of modern music as we know it and that started early 50's so the trend was basically dead by then plus that 'ROCK AROUND THE CLOCK' would've sounded ridiculous in a mid atlantic accent.

  • @PurnaRodman

    @PurnaRodman

    5 ай бұрын

    Indeed, but htat was more spoken than sung. I suppost musical theatre gets is similar, but it's still very much a standard in the USA, unless it's about specific ethinc or socioeconomic groups.

  • @chrisbundy6104

    @chrisbundy6104

    Ай бұрын

    Great comment : very germane

  • @celis727
    @celis7273 жыл бұрын

    When I was a boy, I was shocked the first time I heard Rob Halford speak on MTV. Mick Jagger and Lemmy sounded clearly British to me. Def Leppard and Judas Priest sounded so American to me. I was so confused.

  • @99bajakid

    @99bajakid

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was going to bring up Mick Jagger as well

  • @andraskovacs8959
    @andraskovacs89593 жыл бұрын

    Sabaton's Joakim Brodén definitely adds some Swedish-ness to his hinging accent.

  • @PXCharon

    @PXCharon

    3 жыл бұрын

    I saw a clip somewhere of Joachim saying he uses the slightly rolled R when he sings specifically because it's the only way he can make it sound clear. I don't know anything about Swedish, but it's kind of interesting that the open "ah" that English tends toward in singing doesn't work for him.

  • @antivanti

    @antivanti

    3 жыл бұрын

    'byooried' 😅

  • @imokin86

    @imokin86

    3 жыл бұрын

    Swedes don't roll their Rs so much when they speak (more than the English, but less than the Spanish or Slavs), but they sometimes do it when they sing, especially if they take on a more theatrical manner. With Jocke it could be due to the fact that he is half Czech or Polish, don't remember exactly which.

  • @trialbystone2532

    @trialbystone2532

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PXCharon he also said on stream with Dragonforce that it helped him hide his Scandinavian accent, or at least not make him sound like he's doing a bad American accent.

  • @slopedarmor

    @slopedarmor

    2 жыл бұрын

    he kinda sings bury as byoury

  • @OnceAndFutureKing
    @OnceAndFutureKing3 жыл бұрын

    Damon Albarn: Hold my beer! (*then proceeds to sing Blur's "Country House" in his native East London Cockney accent*). Billy Bragg: You ain't seen nothin' yet!

  • @margett__
    @margett__ Жыл бұрын

    As an accent nerd, I find this video delightful to watch 😊❤ Thank you so much for this deep dive!

  • @BethRoars

    @BethRoars

    Жыл бұрын

    You're so welcome!

  • @CriticalReactions
    @CriticalReactions3 жыл бұрын

    I love how you've expanded your channel into video essays. You obviously have a passion for education (as expected from a Vocal Coach) as it shows through your presentation and research. I've seen a handful of your reactions (can't watch too many or else I'll spoil myself for my own content) and I've learned a lot about vocals that, as a composer and trumpet player, I wasn't aware of. Your channel continues to be a well of musical information that will seemingly never run dry. Your video essays remind me so much of Braincraft, but for music topics, and I wish you the best as you continue to expand into new ideas.

  • @bluewidow1302
    @bluewidow13023 жыл бұрын

    The very first time I had the pleasure of hearing Pink Floyd there was no doubt of where they were from. Shine On !

  • @asgoodasold1439
    @asgoodasold14393 жыл бұрын

    I've always enjoyed to that about Pink Floyd exactly because they stick to their original accent

  • @bluewidow1302

    @bluewidow1302

    3 жыл бұрын

    I just made the same basic comment. Yeah ! haha

  • @rickc2102

    @rickc2102

    3 жыл бұрын

    Right when I read the words "Pink Floyd" in your comment, my brain played the "By chance, two separate glances meet" line in my head, so definitely a fundamental element in them that I hadn't thought of before.

  • @brothertaddeus
    @brothertaddeus3 жыл бұрын

    "Think Scottish folk" shows a brief clip of Julie Fowlis. So I'm holding out hope for a vocal coach reacts to Julie Fowlis video some day.

  • @katherinemorelle7115

    @katherinemorelle7115

    3 жыл бұрын

    That would be amazing! She’s one of my favourite vocalists.

  • @almostfm
    @almostfm2 жыл бұрын

    The part about vowels doing a large part in defining an accent is spot on. Back in my radio days, the production director at one station I was at figured out that my family originally came to California from Wisconsin based on how I pronounce the word "milk". I use an "e" sound instead of an "i", so it sounds like "melk".

  • @dorinowens1004
    @dorinowens10043 жыл бұрын

    I've been curious about this for so long. Thanks Beth :)

  • @prosens52
    @prosens526 ай бұрын

    Thank you for clearing this up I have always wondered this!

  • @Jaimcferran
    @Jaimcferran3 жыл бұрын

    It’s also fun to hear West End stars perform on Broadway because they generally sound completely different as they have to mask their “British” accent most times. I noticed it a lot with Rachel Tucker and Kerry Ellis when they played Elphaba in Wicked on both the West End and Broadway, it would be interesting to get a comparison video of them!

  • @semaj_5022
    @semaj_50223 жыл бұрын

    I've always wondered this! So glad I found this video. Absolutely fascinating.

  • @The-End-Of-The-Line
    @The-End-Of-The-Line Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for a fantastic exploration of this phenomenon.

  • @mmmegameat
    @mmmegameat3 жыл бұрын

    Kudos to Beth for a fascinating, incisive lecture on a subject that always intrigued me.

  • @GilbertClark
    @GilbertClark3 жыл бұрын

    Can't wait to hear this. You can still hear a bit of Tatiana's accent when she sings her cleans, but she loses it in her growls/screams. :-)

  • @echopryme
    @echopryme3 жыл бұрын

    I've ALWAYS wondered.... 😁 But I LOVE it when you can hear the accent! Arctic Monkeys ae great for that! Its just "cooler" when you know you can't sing it naturally without faking it. Cranberries, Sugarcubes, etc, are also good examples where the ACTUAL accent makes it SOOOO much cooler!

  • @tardyon808
    @tardyon808Ай бұрын

    this is a really interesting video and explained really well. thank you for sharing.

  • @Lfppfs
    @Lfppfs3 жыл бұрын

    I am enjoying these videos with scientific and societal aspects of music/sound so much! Keep up the great work, Beth! Cheers from Brazil!

  • @daveg.4772
    @daveg.4772 Жыл бұрын

    Saw Paul McCartney asked why The Beatles sounded "American" when singing. He answered that all of their favorite songs and favorite singers were American and they came up originally as a coverband in clubs. Their influences were American, so they developed an American sounding style of singing. .

  • @cebukano520
    @cebukano5203 жыл бұрын

    I look forward to this. It will be interesting.

  • @joeterp5615
    @joeterp56153 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting! Excellent video! This is something I’ve often wondered about. I think you can even take this further. Some people when they travel abroad to a country where they don’t know the language start imitating the sounds of that language when speaking their own. It can happen without thinking. I think that gets back to the point re seeking of acceptance and understanding from others. Oh, and you look absolutely amazing as usual! (like a Scottish Ann Margret). So irresistibly cute, so positive and upbeat, and soooo smart. A winning combination!

  • @whaleguy
    @whaleguy2 жыл бұрын

    I never realised I was changing my accent when singing till a friend told me I sounded like Layne Staley. A whole bunch of recordings later, I realised I did sound very American while singing. But I grew up listening to American rock bands or British rock bands that sang like Americans so it's not surprising.

  • @chryse
    @chryse3 жыл бұрын

    What a fantastic episode! I've always wondered about this. Thanks, Beth!

  • @BethRoars

    @BethRoars

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're so welcome!

  • @plectrumura
    @plectrumura3 жыл бұрын

    I’m stoked for this video. This has been on my question list for a while now. Can’t wait!

  • @BethRoars

    @BethRoars

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hope you like it!

  • @richardingham1578
    @richardingham15788 ай бұрын

    Many thanks Beth this is really helpful as my vocal coach has said I am too heavy on the Essex accent

  • @richkranz-hiddenmaster-of-rock
    @richkranz-hiddenmaster-of-rock2 жыл бұрын

    The question is one of the most interesting for all musical genres, languages and all times. And the answer you gave us, was the best I heard of all times, and you have done it with unsurpassed clarity and documentation. I congratulate you enormously. You're so cute! Thanks from Argentina !!

  • @carolusbillius6726
    @carolusbillius67263 жыл бұрын

    That was super interesting! Thanks, Beth!

  • @BethRoars

    @BethRoars

    3 жыл бұрын

    You are so welcome!

  • @paulriddle7818
    @paulriddle78183 жыл бұрын

    Amazing job Beth.

  • @khonekt
    @khonekt3 жыл бұрын

    I love these educational videos I've always wanted to know this. Thank you! :D

  • @BethRoars

    @BethRoars

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're so welcome!

  • @JimONeil
    @JimONeil3 жыл бұрын

    Outstanding video Beth. I could listen to you talk about this topic for hours. Very interesting.

  • @BethRoars

    @BethRoars

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I have the full chat with Pamela coming out in podcast form soon!

  • @latinluv7007
    @latinluv70072 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video! 👍

  • @pdegnan4852
    @pdegnan48523 жыл бұрын

    So I came across this channel while looking for Periphery songs (saw your reaction video on "Garden In The Bones"). I can safely say I didn't think I'd be spending my Friday night watching KZread videos from a vocal coach, but I'm glad I clicked on your Periphery video and started looking! I'll definitely start following this channel, as I don't think I've ever actually sat down and thought about the actual "mechanics" of how and why these sounds come out of my mouth. Thanks for the great content, I hope your business is going well!

  • @BethRoars

    @BethRoars

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @Alex.Adametz
    @Alex.Adametz3 жыл бұрын

    It was really interesting to watch! Great video!

  • @BethRoars

    @BethRoars

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @edbutler3
    @edbutler33 жыл бұрын

    I'm enjoying this newer "high effort" content shift you've done. I hope it pays off for you.

  • @johnforsyth7987
    @johnforsyth79873 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your very informative video. As a retired teacher in the USA. I used to tell my students that the learning process never stops. I learned a considerable amount from this video, thank you. By the way. I love your accent. When I hear you speak, I think that is how some of my ancestors might have sounded. You channel is great. Keep up the good work.

  • @BethRoars

    @BethRoars

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks John!

  • @11ck111
    @11ck1113 жыл бұрын

    This was so interesting and informative! 👍

  • @BethRoars

    @BethRoars

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @markgardner4426
    @markgardner4426 Жыл бұрын

    I've always wondered and regret not asking my vocal teacher Dr. Myra Brand when I was in college. Thank you for explaining this phenomenon so well! Wish I'd kept up singing as I did in church when was younger or later in karaoke. Thanks again!

  • @yunusgezgen
    @yunusgezgen3 жыл бұрын

    This was the question bumbed into my mind in the early morning of a weekend 🤣

  • @henrikmorth7468
    @henrikmorth74683 жыл бұрын

    Beth make a difference! Very interesting subject. Thanks!🙂

  • @BethRoars

    @BethRoars

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're so welcome!

  • @NancyvanD
    @NancyvanD3 жыл бұрын

    I love it when singers retain their accent and make it work with their songs. To name a few; Florence + the Machine, Marina and the Diamonds, Sophie Ellis Bextor, the Cranberries and of course, the Proclaimers. I also feel with Adele it depends on the song. Sometimes you do hear her English accent. In Hometown Glory for instance.

  • @SEAKPhotog
    @SEAKPhotog3 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting. Thanks!

  • @BethRoars
    @BethRoars2 жыл бұрын

    📖 Get your signed copy of my album Fable here: www.bethroars.com/shop ☀ Pre-save my first single "Power Of The Wolf" 🐺 on Spotify (it really helps me out!): distrokid.com/hyperfollow/bethroars/power-of-the-wolf 🥁 Become a Patreon Supporter: www.patreon.com/bethroars

  • @nikolayyordanov3853

    @nikolayyordanov3853

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Beth! Your channel looks very interesting and it's worth exploring what you say about so many interesting topics about the human voice. What I want to ask you is if you know why people who stutter lose it when singing? I had a friend that did that and it was always amazing to me. Thanks!

  • @paulmachensie182
    @paulmachensie1823 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting. Thank you very much !

  • @BethRoars

    @BethRoars

    3 жыл бұрын

    You are welcome!

  • @stevek7699
    @stevek76993 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this. I've long wondered about the "American accent" thing, and what you say makes sense.

  • @robertcronin6603
    @robertcronin66033 жыл бұрын

    Beth you're talented and gorgeous - love your videos 🔥

  • @territrabert1201
    @territrabert12013 жыл бұрын

    This is fascinating.

  • @oxigenarian9763
    @oxigenarian97633 жыл бұрын

    Never really thought about this critically but my favorite band sings in English with an American accent but they are quite, quite Dutch. Beautiful job on this - I love learning from you and never miss one of your postings!

  • @BethRoars

    @BethRoars

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for watching!

  • @carstenschultz5
    @carstenschultz53 жыл бұрын

    Well done, this was very interesting. The one additional accent thing that take away from this is that your pronunciation of *assume* does to the *s* what I had thought was mostly Australian.

  • @BethRoars

    @BethRoars

    3 жыл бұрын

    There are probably some parallels between my accent and Australian accents. After all I’m from Perth, Scotland and Australia was colonised by enough Perth people to make their own :)

  • @kustomride
    @kustomride3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Beth. I have always wondered why UK, or even a Dutch band (Golden Earring) sounded so "American." Then again, it seemed odd that a San Fransisco band (Creedence) sounded so US Southern. Or the obviously British voice of The Beatles contrasts with the more blues influenced voice of the Rolling Stones (Mick Jagger, who could do American accents from Southern to New England).

  • @JJ.ermenegildofregna
    @JJ.ermenegildofregna3 жыл бұрын

    Good question.

  • @Jabadaw
    @Jabadaw3 жыл бұрын

    I agree. All of the elements you described definitely were different when we'd do songs in other languages in college choir, like the Sephardic Spanish of Por Que Llorax Blanca Niña.

  • @joshuasizemore4862
    @joshuasizemore48623 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the the explanation. As a child I noticed the accents disappearing while listening to music with my dad who was a bid fan of the British invasion of the seventies and eighties, and I always wondered why that happened.

  • @genghisbunny
    @genghisbunny3 жыл бұрын

    I've never thought about "Opera" as an accent before, but it makes so much sense.

  • @rickc2102

    @rickc2102

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also explains for me my preference for Italian over German opera. Mind opened.

  • @blackfender100
    @blackfender1003 жыл бұрын

    The Beatles were a Prime example in the 60's

  • @kingedwardthe1st
    @kingedwardthe1st2 жыл бұрын

    This video was ace. I've been told when I sing (metal/rock music) I sound English/British, yet when I talk between songs I'm obviously Irish. When asked I once told someone it was down to singing along with 80s British metal bands. I wish I sounded more like one of my personal heroes Phil Lynott, his soft Dublin accent comes through in his songs so well.

  • @zosmaee
    @zosmaee3 жыл бұрын

    ...there is also the case of Syd Barrett, he had so much of his london accent when singing that he managed to rhyme "again" with "Layne" (song Arnold Layne).

  • @robertcronin6603

    @robertcronin6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes... very interesting

  • @p.millard557

    @p.millard557

    2 жыл бұрын

    Syd was born and grew up in Cambridge and only came to live London in 1964 and was part of Pink Floyd from 1965 to 1968.

  • @TucsonBillD
    @TucsonBillD3 жыл бұрын

    One excellent example of this was the late Jim Nabors, who while speaking had a real thick southern/Appalachian accent. But when he sang it completely disappeared. Excellent presentation, Beth.

  • @BethRoars

    @BethRoars

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Bill!

  • @Andy_from_de
    @Andy_from_de3 жыл бұрын

    I think a lot of what you say applies to German and how it's thought to be a very harsh language just rrrrrrrrrrolling with all the rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, as Till Lindeman from Rammstein does when singing. But when he speaks in his normal voice, you don't hear that at all. The rrrrrrrrrrolling R comes from something called "Bühnendeutsch", which as those operatic Italian vowels you mentioned is used to project voice clearly in a theatre setting. No German would ever dream of speaking that way (aside from some local accents which do have a rolling R). I guess when English speaking actors were trained to play the bad German Nazi guys in WWII films, they were trained by people who taught them Bühnendeutsch, or used it to indicate the use a foreign language while still speaking English. Many Germans can't even roll an R to save their lives.

  • @JoelMatton
    @JoelMatton3 жыл бұрын

    I love singers that sing in their real accents, I have a 40 song Spotify playlist dedicated to "accent songs" lol. Glasvegas, Arab Strap and Biffy Clyro are 3 of the Scottish-singing artists on there.

  • @ilinichina

    @ilinichina

    3 ай бұрын

    god drop the link

  • @Francisco54553
    @Francisco545533 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting conference 👌👌🤗😊

  • @BethRoars

    @BethRoars

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for visiting

  • @Francisco54553

    @Francisco54553

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BethRoars So thanks to you

  • @vitopasquu1883
    @vitopasquu18833 жыл бұрын

    Truly interesting.

  • @thekaratekidpartii2169
    @thekaratekidpartii21693 жыл бұрын

    I think Brandon Flowers from The Killers sang with a British accent on at least their first album Hot Fuss, and he's from Las Vegas.

  • @konkey-dong

    @konkey-dong

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh 100% - Loads of Brits thought they were a British band (some still do which is probably part of why Mr Brightside is _still_ on the charts here to this day) - a good example is the un-American way he sings 'but it's just the PRICE I PAY' in Mr Brightside's chorus

  • @omnigeek9798
    @omnigeek97983 жыл бұрын

    I love your accent. :D

  • @EdwardMWolfe
    @EdwardMWolfe2 жыл бұрын

    You reminded me of Paul McCartney singing in a southern in Rocky Racoon.

  • @williamwilliam8978
    @williamwilliam89783 жыл бұрын

    She's so pretty 🦋

  • @thomasmurray3920
    @thomasmurray39202 жыл бұрын

    I love your sessions, and this one in particular. As an American who used to sing Japanese and Korean songs, I approached them from a linguistics basis, dinging phonetically as I didn’t always understand all of the words. In Japan I was told that I spoke with a Tokyo accent. In singing, my “accent” would vary depending if I was singing enka (a more traditional song, done of which might be considered similar to folk songs) but sang in a more normal tone for J-pop songs. For Korean songs, the challenge was mostly about vowel sounds that would be unusual for English speakers, such as the long u followed by an “l”. An American would say “pool” with a flat tongue hitting the roof of the mouth at the end of the word fairly far forward in the mouth. That “ool” sound in many Korean words has the tongue more curved and hitting the roof of the mouth further back, giving quite a different sound.

  • @metaforest
    @metaforest2 жыл бұрын

    U R awesome!

  • @Baerno
    @Baerno3 жыл бұрын

    Bjork and Aurora don't surrender a syllable to anyone or anything. I think they operate on the same position I take. "I don't have an accent! Everybody else does."

  • @franklesser5655
    @franklesser5655 Жыл бұрын

    Beth is gorgeous!

  • @katherinemorelle7115
    @katherinemorelle71153 жыл бұрын

    Missy Higgins is well known for singing pop in an Australian accent. And I’m sure most western millennials will remember Sophie Ellis Bextor’s Murder on the Dancefloor (man that song was a banger), in her native English accent. Those are the two that first popped into my mind.

  • @ericanewman8792
    @ericanewman8792 Жыл бұрын

    Hilltop Hoods are an example of artists defying the norm and using their own accent in their music. Rap in an Australian Accent goes against what’s considered “right” but their sound really works and they don’t try to affect an American accent

  • @xdxdxdxd4575
    @xdxdxdxd45752 жыл бұрын

    Never thought someone can have this question but yeah, a good one! As a hungarian I often realise that even if I just speak in German or in English my voice stucture changes, because of the rithm of the language, so does the tone of my voice and the volume is another. I also sing different in different languages. My accent seems American english to people, but it truly desappears when I am singing, that Is for sure! Thanks!

  • @juztinking8813
    @juztinking88132 жыл бұрын

    Once, I was at an friend's place with a few people. I was the only francophone and everyone else spoke Canadian English (they were Acadians, from New-Brunswick). Needless to say everyone kinda made fun of my accent when speaking. We were around a bonfire in his backyard and I pulled my guitar out and started to play. I barely started singing before my friend asked me to stop. He told the others that he thought my accent was completely gone while singing and I started the song over and at the end the others agreed. I always thought it was curious and this video made me remember this moment and now I understand why people kinda lose their accents when singing.

  • @viacrucis2509
    @viacrucis25093 жыл бұрын

    So I heard it was cause of he influence of popular American music. I am 60 years old, raised in South Texas, and I could only sound British when singing “Enerie” the 8th by the Herman’s Hermits.

  • @Jaimcferran
    @Jaimcferran3 жыл бұрын

    I’ve noticed that Gary Lightbody (Snow Patrol) keeps his Northern Irish accent when singing. And I’ve also heard Dermot Kennedy’s Irish accent come through ☺️

  • @rasputinsbeard3899
    @rasputinsbeard38993 жыл бұрын

    I remember hearing Shirley Manson's accent for the first time. That is quite a strong Scottish accent, and yet totally non-existent in her singing. Gorgeous voice in either situation though.

  • @cjwatson1972
    @cjwatson19723 жыл бұрын

    Ray Davies (The Kinks) doesn't change accents. He could sing "Great Balls of Fire" on the Fourth of July in a Memphis juke joint, and he'd still sound British.

  • @adrianvella7661
    @adrianvella76613 жыл бұрын

    Fish of Marillion sang with his native accent which deffo gives the band more character imho!

  • @johnianknox1629
    @johnianknox16293 жыл бұрын

    Beth, love your analysises as always being a fellow Scot, one of my favourite female singers is Alyson Moyet, I think you would love her voice as much as I do , check out "The First time Ever I Saw Your Face", absolutely fabulous, take care sweetie.

  • @TARDIStraveller96
    @TARDIStraveller963 жыл бұрын

    Most of my examples for singers who almost exclusively sing in their native accent you used, but I would also add Sophie Ellis-Bextor. She almost never loses her well spoken southern English accent when she sings, and it's one of the reasons I enjoy her voice so much. Quite the contrast to Lily Allen another singer I like who is also from South England but has a thick cockney accent that she sings in.

  • @RalphBellairs
    @RalphBellairs3 жыл бұрын

    Beth, you should check out the track "Dead City" by The Twilight Sad. Their lead vocalist James Graham is from Central Scotland and he keeps his fairly broad accent throughout.

  • @Spitek1974
    @Spitek19743 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @BethRoars

    @BethRoars

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome

  • @davidarnold2532
    @davidarnold25323 жыл бұрын

    The Proclaimers sound Scottish even when they sing an American song....I know, I know haven't seen the video yet....but just saying 😉

  • @BethRoars

    @BethRoars

    3 жыл бұрын

    🙈

  • @HollowGolem

    @HollowGolem

    3 жыл бұрын

    Have you heard their song "Throw the R Away?" It's basically about how they're proud to sing with a Scottish accent.

  • @davidarnold2532

    @davidarnold2532

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@HollowGolem I like King of the Road....an American song with a Scottish flare.

  • @earthtear9586

    @earthtear9586

    3 жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @tekaid23
    @tekaid233 жыл бұрын

    I have always wondered if people like Alex Turner (Arctic Monkeys) started singing with a less natural accent and forced themselves back to their native speaking accent as a choice, or if it was natural for them to sing in their speech accent (when for others it seems natural to sing in a different accent to the one they speak with)...

  • @BethRoars

    @BethRoars

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think that is really personal. A lot of it is subconscious. :)

  • @lucie4185

    @lucie4185

    3 жыл бұрын

    Alex Turner probably writes the song with his accent in mind, consider Tom Jones cover of "I bet that you look good on the dance floor" using his mid-Atlantic voice it sounds a bit flatter because he isn't using the yorkshire accent to pull the vowel sounds up and down like Alex does.

  • @tekaid23

    @tekaid23

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lucie4185 Yeah I think you're probably right. Im sure it was something that helped them standout from all the other small bands doing their thing with small club/bar gigs and on social media.

  • @DanielHB23
    @DanielHB233 жыл бұрын

    Really like this vid. The example of a band singing in an accent outside their style would be like the coronas (e.g. addicted to progress) or versatile (e.g. ketamine but this is rap).

  • @BethRoars

    @BethRoars

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @pacoflores9615
    @pacoflores96153 жыл бұрын

    Hello, it's a pleasure to greet you, I love your reactions to Mexican music, you can see that you enjoy it a lot. I recommend the song, pray for us, sung by Pedro Infante.

  • @classicbananamilk
    @classicbananamilk3 жыл бұрын

    Georgia Maq! I love how she still has her accent even when she's belting stuff out. There's a few other Australian singers at the moment who also keep their accent but they're generally more speak-singy than Georgia

  • @mueesli4745
    @mueesli47452 жыл бұрын

    The best example for singing style contradicting expectations might be Rammstein. Even for german measures their style has a very harsh and opera-like tone used in very rhythmic rock/metal music, and I think this is why they are loved internationally: it simply fits well into this american derived style of music and gives a new layer of heavyness that others could never achieve without this tone. To clear my background, I am not even a big fan of them, but I respect them for their unique style.

  • @brianmathisinmontana
    @brianmathisinmontana3 жыл бұрын

    Try Rhiannon Gibbons “Wayfaring Stranger”. African-American-Scots-Irish-Southern US. The accent is all over the place. It works.

  • @renzaquino1565
    @renzaquino15653 жыл бұрын

    iloveu ms beth☺️