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@rmt1

4 ай бұрын

Hi Thanks for great videos Don’t know if title has typo or you care Why “ go” instead of why do ?

@cmdrclassified

4 ай бұрын

Up in Norther BC, we used to start our diesels in the winter using propane. Propane is very compression friendly. Also works like nitrous for a diesel. Make sure to add a water/ethanol mix with it, to keep the exhaust temps down.

@AdeptApe

4 ай бұрын

It was a typo, I got it fixed. Was pretty tired out from editing by the time I made the title and didn't check it.

@patricklilly2520

4 ай бұрын

Love the Hat...

Old peg has proved above and beyond starting fluid is not addictive and it dont hurt diesels

@tater_relocater

4 ай бұрын

Unless they have glow plugs

@nickd.4512

4 ай бұрын

Glow plugs that work😂😂😂

@DieselDoc78

4 ай бұрын

@@tater_relocater see the above comment. He’s fogged it all, glow plugs or not……..

@fastinradfordable

4 ай бұрын

He literally buys it by the case. But not addicted huh😂

@typrus6377

4 ай бұрын

"Don't" is definitely too firm a statement. It absolutely CAN, but that does not mean it always will. Caution is still advisable. Exactly as Josh said, too much or used improperly it can cause damage. Intake heater grids or combustion intake heaters are a recipe for the intake tract burning with improper ether usage. Blown apart filter housings were real common on 7.3 Powerstrokes, particularly the OBS versions, back up in NoCo. The baby intake heater coil could light it and blow back. All of that being said- I've used ether on a wide variety of diesels with zero negative issues. Just be alert to the possible risks and work around them. Easy enough.

A gasoline soaked rag over the air intake has always worked just great for me. Just don't let go of the rag..

@JohnSmith-yv6eq

4 ай бұрын

The modern "flaming rag" is to bore a hole in the metal intake manifold, tap it and screw in a Thermostart "Flame heater"... that uses 12VDC to heat a coil of wire and open a small built in valve to drip diesel onto it and cause a flame in the intake,,,, This is all controlled by a push button on the dash... button off after engine starts and the coil turns off and the little valve closes.... ready for the next start... YT vids available...

@paulmaxwell8851

4 ай бұрын

Yes, my Ford farm tractor (mid 80s) has the Thermostart feature. It seems to work well. A clever design.@@JohnSmith-yv6eq

@DuaneWilson-ro1pn

4 ай бұрын

Yes gasoline on rag. Don't let it get sucked into air intake

@WilliamPhillips-og4be

4 ай бұрын

Instructions unclear… Dic* got sucked into turbo…

@evil17

4 ай бұрын

A bit of petrol on a rag is a good way to help get a cold deisel started and not as volatile as ether. I have used a little squirt of DWF at times, seems to work also.

We had a 471 Detroit in a Taylor forklift with very high hours. You could turn the engine over by turning the fan! It had very low compression, lots of blow by and no power! It always required a snort if the temp was less than 50 deg F. An in-frame with new liners cured its addiction.

@scottcurry479

4 ай бұрын

I'm surprised it would start above 50 without a sniff.

Can confirm start ya bastard is the go to down here mate 👌👌

@jefftheaussie2225

4 ай бұрын

Do you remember our International AWD7 tractors? Every one of them had a special place for the Aerostart can. Start Ya Bastard hadn’t been thought of then although that is what everyone said.

@Brad.whatthe

4 ай бұрын

I caught the old boy trying to start the lawnmower with it, had to put it on a high shelf

@chrisholmes6311

4 ай бұрын

@@jefftheaussie2225 I think any International or McCormick diesel worked in Australia must have been addicted 😳

@John-gj9db

4 ай бұрын

Same here in NZ bro

@jackbower8671

4 ай бұрын

Lmao

Used to buy a 12 pack of starting fluid every 2 or 3 years when I was farming. Used primarily for cleaning hydraulic couplings. Great for getting oil and dirt out of those hard to reach places.

@davidpawson7393

4 ай бұрын

Add some meth and get done twice as fast. Just ignore the Scarecrow that's following you.

@blauer2551

4 ай бұрын

My solution is brake cleaner, they both work. Our state has mandated non flammable brake cleaner so you can spray in hot spots too.

@markwilliams4525

4 ай бұрын

​@@blauer2551 the non flammable kind doesn't work as good

@randomotaku3283

4 ай бұрын

​@@davidpawson7393nah thats why you're running on the job

@bobroberts2371

4 ай бұрын

@@davidpawson7393 said " Add some meth and get done twice as fast. Just ignore the Scarecrow that's following you. " I thought that only happened with Wildwood Weed circa 1974 . . . .. . .

I used to be a member of a small Volunteer Fire Dept in Upstate NY, and they used to have a 1974 Dodge C 900 Pumper that had a 555 Cummins V8 Engine. The easiest way to get that Triple Nickel Engine to start was to give the intake a couple short blasts of ether. I fixed this issue temporarily by starting, and running the truck once a week for about 30 minutes. Some of the older Members didn't like this, and told me that it was not fixing the issue, but, in reality, it was fixing the issue, because it was keeping the batteries fully charged, but long story short, they made me stop running the truck on a weekly basis, and within a few short days of not being started and ran, they ended up having to go back to using ether to get the truck started. I noticed this, and went back to running the truck for 30 minutes on a weekly basis. We had a call come in one day for that particular truck, and I warned the incoming driver that the engine was already hot from having just been shut down, and that he would not have to use ether to get it started. He ignored me, and gave the intake 3 long shots of ether, turned the engine over, and blew it up.

@mrstealyoblocks4473

3 ай бұрын

Drivers never listen.

@internetpointsbank

Ай бұрын

Running a engine that size for 30 mins doesn't usually get the engine hot enough to rid itself of moisture that is created by getting the engine warm.

In my youth, many many years ago, I discovered starting fluid. Boy this stuff is great, nice flame while holding a lighter in front of it. So I bought two small cans. It was summer and out of school, I gathered several kids on my block. Created a dope ring and sprayed one can with another. Dropped a match and nobody had any eye lashes or eyebrows, when we took off running.

@adamfrbs9259

4 ай бұрын

When we discovered Pyrodex in 9th grade it wasn't long before a State Senator found out about it. Lol. Whoops.

@hedge685

4 ай бұрын

It's truly a wonder some of us are still alive...

@deanmeyer1815

4 ай бұрын

Some had to survive to explain to the next generation how stupid it is and why not to do it.🤪

@jamesb9564

4 ай бұрын

@@hedge685 That’s exactly what I was thinking 🤔 😂😂

@geoffgunn9673

4 ай бұрын

@@deanmeyer1815 That's it. remove all the warning labels and let nature sort itself out. It would be bound to prune a few of the low hanging leaves

Cosby in a can, ole Peg, making everything laugh just a little bit in a weird world.

It has always been an opinion of mine that it is physically impossible to get a hunk of metal addicted to a substance lol.

Starting fluid is one hell of a drug

@persistentwind

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, Grandpa won't stop huffing it.

@GOLTURBO555

4 ай бұрын

@@persistentwind mood

Back in the 70’s I used to drive trucks with an ether pump in the cab. Still use the stuff for the first start of the season

Had a 6.2GM that ate glow plugs like candy… A little bit of Naphthalene in the air cleaner housing worked great 🔥

@JohnSmith-yv6eq

3 ай бұрын

No moths???

Several years ago (before we had field service) a customer called in because his motor home ran out of fuel. He was trying to save $0.05 cents by getting to another station. He talked our supervisor in sending a tech out to get it running. The tech called back and said "The engine blew up". After arguing back and forth, the boss asked "How do you know it's blown up?" Which the tech replied back, "The push rods are sticking through the valve covers". The tech was labeled the "Either Bunny" for awhile. Needless to say the motor home was towed in, engine & trans dropped down to the floor. Motor home lifted up and we pulled the engine out and rebuilt it. The joys of saving a nickel a gallon.

@LygerTheCLaw

4 ай бұрын

how did you rebuild it, with holes in the head and block? sounds like an anchor waiting for a new box to go into it.

@johngoldsmith6629

4 ай бұрын

@@LygerTheCLaw Replaced valve covers, valve train damage, bearings, rings, valve job.

@saskafrass1985

4 ай бұрын

The ether bunny. Legend in the bush was one bunk house one guy would pass out and wake up with a sore butt every night. The other occupant of the bunkhouse was signing out ether cans from supply. He run saw though. The guy with the sore butt never moved out. He liked the ether bunny.

Some old diesels had built in ether dispensing systems for cold starts. To the annoyance of operators who have to change the ether cartridges. So if used properly ether is fine.

Thank you Josh for your help, my lope idle went away after switching fuel-gas station, keep those videos coming, maybe one day I’ll stop by in Idaho for an overhead!

I drove a few Fords with Cat engines that had Ether buttons.

@volvo09

4 ай бұрын

I live in a logging area and the local gas station has a few ether canisters for the old rigs that need it. They look like the thin propane torch bottles.

@daviddroescher

4 ай бұрын

2 of 3 5tons I was responsible for in the army had theas . -10f in Ks. the button for 5 sec was the only way to get all 3 running. Start 1 on either then run the pto throttle up to1200 run the slave cable to the next and start it on down the line. 1 was built in 1943 I drove it in 06, how many times it had been through the frame off rebuild shop I've no idea .

Wow, great video!!! And thanks for returnin' the classical music to the Destruction of the Week

Loved the Cosby in a Can!

OLD SHOP GUY I USE TO WORK WITH WAS A DIESEL ENGINE BUILDER. HE TOLD ME ONE Time THE ETHER IGNITES WHEN THE PISTON IS ABOUT HALF WAY UP THE CYLINDER. SO THE PISTONS TRYNA COME UP BUT TRYNA BE DRIVEN BACK DOWN AT THE SAME TIME THUS BENDING THE ROD. WHICH IN TURN CAUSES LOWER compression AND HARDER STARTS* ESPECIALLY ON A ALREADY WORN ENGINE DOWN ON COMPRESSION ALREADY. THEREFORE MAKING IT ETHER DEPENDANT ‼️ HONESTLY MAKES SENSE TO ME. R.I.P. Charlie!

I just remembered that the majority of the Viet Nam Era Military Deuce & Half Trucks that had the Multi Fuel Engines in them ran on primarily diesel fuel, but would also run on pretty much any kind of fuel that would burn. Long story short, virtually all of these trucks also had Ether Systems built into the truck, with a push button on the dash for extremely cold weather starts.

Key word- if used properly!! Ya have you dealt with the general public or truck people. Or people that say they are mechanics. Never mind the grid heaters and glow plugs they don’t understand them that’s why they just get in and crank them over and don’t let them do the job they are there for. Good video if someone can learn from it. I’ve been trying to get the non English speaking so the say mechanics to stop using it but no luck Someday when the blow the intake off the engine they might listen.

@typrus6377

4 ай бұрын

We'd usually see at least 1 7.3 Powerstroke come in with a popped filter housing every cold snap back in Northern Colorado. My favorite though was the Duramax that spun to the moon and destroyed its valvetrain. "No, we didn't use ether!" The distinct odor coming from your intake tract and 2 empty cans under-hood says otherwise.

@leso204

4 ай бұрын

You cannot fix stupid ......

@dougthompson1598

4 ай бұрын

@@leso204 Sometimes you can, but it's almost always painful or/and expensive.

A diesel fires right after commencement of fuel injection. You spray either in it and it fires pretty much uncontrolled (way early) that is severe detonation. That is why you hear all that banging when those idiots are doing cold start videos and spraying tons of either. It's way hard on engine components. Do things right and preheat, block heater, glow plugs in an IDI, manifold heater, whatever. I've torn down lots of engines from guys that love either, broken rings, upper ring land broken off the top of the piston, etc. All the detonation is hard on stuff

@leso204

4 ай бұрын

And big end shells 😎

@dodgeme1986truck

4 ай бұрын

Can't forget the banana shaped connecting rods I've seen alot o those there is a right way and a wrong way to use ether... Light spray while cranking over the air cleaner as that slows the dispersion combined with disabling the glow plugs/grid heater while using the ether... It's always better to crank the engine more than to use too much ether as the cranking actually will warm the engine up via air compression in the cylinders so that the light ether can be effective without dealing damage.

@evil17

4 ай бұрын

Yes, a light sniff is all it should need, it freaked me out watching a mechanic spray ether for 5-10 seconds at a time in my old JD tractor to start it one time. A little Petrol on a rag is probably a lot softer on everything.

My Dad taught Ag for years. One of his favorite sayings was that one runs a lot better than it starts :)

Always enjoy watching , thank you for your videos.

The old two stroke Detroit’s were known for becoming addicted. Really the needed the rack to be run. Basically it was a timing and the injectors not firing correctly.

Thanks Josh! That was really helpful!

Pretty interesting topic. Many great points. Love these topic discussions. Cheers Josh.👊💪👍🤩

@AdeptApe

4 ай бұрын

Thanks Jeri! Good to see you in the comments section.

When I did roadside breakdowns for a living l used gas instead of ether. Did hundreds of cold starts without issue.

Love the videos man.

I've got an old Perkins that came from the factory with a Cold Start Injection system as the only winter starting aid. Works great, I've had the same shorty can in it for probably two years now. I hold the button for maybe three seconds as I start cranking, and it hits the cylinders a second or two after that, starts with no drama.

@user-ul7jb8cl7g

3 ай бұрын

I have a Bobcat with a Perkins 100-4. I suspect a fuel delivery issue, but... The first start of the day, I give a short burst of starting fluid (maybe 1/2 teaspoon) and it starts immediately. I can restart it later in the day with zero trouble. But give it a few days and I absolutely NEED the starter fluid or I have to spend two minutes on the starter.

@JohnSmith-yv6eq

3 ай бұрын

Sounds like you have fuel draining back out of the injection system. Fit a cheap knock off Facet style click click 12VDC fuel pump inline between the fuel tank and the fuel filters. Operate the pump with a momentary on (push style) switch on the dash... and fire up the pump to run for 15 seconds BEFORE you hit the starter switch....and until the engine runs. This momentary switch can also be used by a helper while you bleed any and all bleed valves all the way to the injectors... positive fuel pressure at the push of a button after a filter change etc. When the engine's own lift/injection pump sucks up fuel it just sucks it through the inline pump without restriction even while the Facet is not running... If the engine needs a lift pump (having broken down on the job) the Facet pump can get you home so to speak... or allow you to keep working until you get the lift pump replaced. See marty T Yt channel I bought the cheapest loader in New Zealand what could possibly go wrong... he also deals with refitting a Thermostart Intake Flamer heater...you might like that as an alternative to ether??? @@user-ul7jb8cl7g

Unless you’re in subzero temperatures, a diesel that requires ether to start has a fuel system issue. Or the compression is so low it can’t fire. I worked at a place called Evans Equipment for 20 years saw over 1000 diesel trucks come through there. Every single one that required ether to start, was found to have some sort of fuel system issue. We would fix those things because nothing would impress a customer more than a big diesel engine, starting on a 10° day without any ether. I watched my bosses brother spray half a can of ether into the forklift to start it. That little Perkins engine blew the rings out of three cylinders straight out the exhaust pipe.

I almost used ether on mine this winter. I have a low compression high performance built engine And it didn’t like to start below 20f Turns out my glow plug fuse has fractured. … And replacing that- did a -20f start without a block heater just fine. Even if your rig has been reliable Doesn’t make you immune to diagnosis just like erry body else😂

Mostly breaking valve springs or bending pushrods even jumping off rocker arms have been the most occurrence with to much ether

Spray paint in the rattle always worked for me plus you get a techni color intake!

I LOVE THE HAT!!! The Corporate C... Very informative vid. Thanks...

2 stroke Detroit diesels love it

Good advice & info, ether is very hard on everything & should be used with caution in small amounts, too many people overuse & abuse it. Cans of carby cleaner are usually cheaper and works well also, WD40 or any spray lube generally works and is a lot softer on everything or a little petrol on a rag draped over/near the air intake.

Years ago on the big bottle cat I think I used the right guard and a black can to start the engine at the fuel island once

I'm glad I watched the entire video before I left a comment (ya I'm terrible for that) Anyway I was going to mention using brakeclean and it's all I've ever used during my 30 year career as a heavy truck mechanic at a Freightliner dealership and it works just as well. Also I thought you may mention an either lock. I definitely like your content 👍 🇨🇦

Thanks for all your videos! I started a fe years ago as a mechanic and your videos and knowledge has helped me alot! Do you sell merchandise?

My old lawnmower not only needed staring fluid, it also need to be tilted on its side.

@markm0000

4 ай бұрын

That poor thing needed a carb kit and rings. Ethanol is really bad for them as well.

❤ all the cat work bro. Got a 3412 we are fixin up now. Some 3412 videos would be awesome.

Ether ignites way before to dead center. So the cylinder pressure is climbing then the injector fires the cylinder pressure go way too high. Can break rings,pistons,head gaskets and take out bearings. Heat the water or incoming air.

When I was living in Minnesota on the 1970s, I once got a ride in a Mercedes diesel car. I noticed that there was a little brass t-handle sticking out of the dash. The owner of the car told me it was an ether pump for cold weather starting.

Quite a place I worked at 2014-16. Truck repair specializing in Railroad Adapted ("High Rail") trucks but a little bit of everything. Old Guy owned the place bought/sold trucks and other stuff. Six times when I was there they bought trucks tractors and even diesel welding machines - that were "locked up" and then sold at auction. Never knew (hey I am a gas-engine guy) that it is possible to load one up so full of ether that the starter can't crank it AT ALL. Taking the injectors out and cranking it, changing oil and usually the starter and battery - aaand: "good as new" !

@zacharymorris9917

4 ай бұрын

I've got an 86 6.2 Detroit that will lock up if you micro bump a can of ether. If I disconnect the glow plugs, it will kind of work. It broke the starter once, and the ring gear another time, so I don't fool with ether anymore. Now I just fix the actual problem. Usually fuel issue.

In the training for the Cummins ISX12/15 they specifically point out a port in the intake used for ether starting So giver er' a snort and put it in the ketchup!

@wizard_of_poz4413

4 ай бұрын

I presume downstream of the grid heater?

@hopingforthebest1.9

4 ай бұрын

​​@@wizard_of_poz4413The X models don't have any grid heaters or glowplugs Maybe a block heater but nothing as far as intake air heating

Sweet, that makes a lot of sense

I had a International 6.9 in a Ford truck. I was.told this, and learned to use WD -40 instead. Worked perfectly.

I had an old 85 Ford 250 with the original engine, original miles. It had a real hard time starting until I changed the glow plugs and a couple of injectors. It started like new after that.

Diesels don’t get addicted, they get worn out. Project Farm did a test on Engine Restore, and it brought the compression up enough that it didn’t need to be plugged in DURING THE SUMMER! He has done, and still does, a lot of real world testing on all manner of products.

Interesting , Thank you.

I've used a gasoline dipped rag held just behind the AF to help start a diesel

It makes really good parts cleaner

My 1974 Atkinson with a NH220 Cummins had factory fitted ether starting system

@tcmtech7515

4 ай бұрын

Most tractors well into the 70's and even 80's had it as either factory standard or an add-on kit. Didn't seem to matter what brand of engines they had.

@jaydunbar7538

4 ай бұрын

My 1996 international 9700 had the injection system, took that shit off right away because I know I’d abuse it lol my 935b cat has it as well but so far I’ve left that system intact

@leso204

4 ай бұрын

Remember when the 'A' series came out & ford fitted the ether start system for the YORK engine' fords Tech departments fix for poor starting the inj' pump needed 2-3degs of advance then it would start even with frost on the floor .........

@michaelparker5072

4 ай бұрын

​@@leso204those york engines were notoriously bad for starting,along with Perkins 4108's and any other indirect injection diesel of that era 🤣🤣,never knew that was the fix for the York engine though👍👍

@DualKalibur

4 ай бұрын

Got a 1978 john deere 2130 with factory ether injection port. No glow plugs or grid heaters or turbo on those girls back then. -20C and gotta clean the lane of snow, you need a boosting vehicle or the battery charger and a snort of starting fluid to get it to go. Doesnt need it when warm just when cold as balls. Even got the factory manual too telling how to use it. Almost 50 year old motor, still factory sealed. Probably could use a total rebuild but aint got the time or money. Just gonna use that ether as the manufacturer recommends!

Good info.

whew! I remember my 2nd job in 1989 when i was operating a well worn John Deere 540B skidder! as the new guy i had to prove myself on this hunk of junk that when the temp was 45 or less, jumper cables and starting fluid. the boss man finally bought a new Clarke 667 for the "old head" and i got "promoted" to the 2 year old other Clarke 667.

Stunned

On older engine’s I’ve seen where to keep them warm overnight you could plug them in like an electric kettle & they would start a lot easier the Perkins P6 was a poor cold starter, some of these had kal gas systems.

I've got a generator with a Honda Clone on it. Runs good once started, doesn't like to start below about 50 though. Quick whiff of sauce and away she goes. Except at -40, zero love then (And yes, I tried this January. Have the generator in the house staying warm in case I need it.)

Well, timing is critical for any engine, and diesels especially. Your ECM or injection pump takes care of timing, it injects fuel in precise moment. When using starting fluid, it may (and will) ignite at any random moment, causing knocks and detonation. It may (and will) damage Your engine over time...

I had a scary moment when using brake clean. I cleaned off my mess from fixing a diesel line and used shop air to dry it up fast. Then I went to start the engine and it sounded like things were going to fly apart it was knocking so hard. By the time I got help the brake clean evaporated and it started up normal.

Had a Ford Focus diesel that needed loads of it when it was cold had loads swapped on it still no better in the end it was the EGR stuck open , Blanked it off and started fine!!

That has got to be the greatest name for starter fluid ive ever seen lmao

Cool hat Josh!

The places I've worked at don't let you use ether underground, due to the potential hazard of it leaking, accumulating in low areas and exploding (same as gasoline and propane). On the other hand there is a lot of underground equipment with multi colored air intakes, spray paint works too.

I took a pete into a truck stop to get serviced since I was way over due. It had an isx 15 in it. The prime pump was bad but the o ly time it wS an issue was when the filters were changed. I carried a 12v aux pump like found in most shops for priming and let them know I had it and if they didn't have one they could use it.they told me they won't use customer tools and they will get it done. I came back a couple hours later and they were using starting fluid to prime it. I could hear it from the other end of the building. There were 4 empty cans on the ground and were running it on the 5th when I came into the shop. ended up having to rebuild motor. And I was going to have it sold the next week. I had 2 scored and 1 cracked liner. Was blowing white smoke within a couple of hours of leaving. I went in with an average of 8.4 mpg and by the end of the trip (900mi) I was lucky if I was getting 4mpg and a gal of coolant per day. I fought 5hem over it for awhile but they insisted starting fluid isn't t bad and it must have been like that when it came in... The only times I e used more than a quick k shot or 2 while. Ranking is when it was sub zero Temps and no jumper cables around or when pulling something that has been sitting in a field for a long time.

My 78 310a is an ether baby. I can usually get through a season on one can. One day I'll split him apart and do the overhaul but for now I just nurse my little junky along. Chuff, chuff. Dig, dig. And always remember to drain the blow-by bucket😅

My 6v92 has no grid heater or glow plugs. When it's below about 25 farenheight, starting fluid is a must if I want to start it without running the battery clear dead.

Had an old 6.9 IDI that refused to start without ether if it was below 70°. Swapped it for a 5.9 Cummins and it cranked right up in -20° without ether or grid heater.

ONCE UPON A TIME there was a factory that had a gigantic emergency Backup Diesel generator. The owner of this company put his fresh out of college Son in charge of the generator crew. It was the crews practice to fire off the diesel Monthly as is best practices. WELL, one month the diesel would not start. They Tried everything. The checked all there was to check. FINALLY, the bosses kid Calls the shop helper over gives him some $$ and tells him ‘Go find 2 of the biggest containers of ether you can find’. After a short time, this kid returns with 2 1gallon jugs of ether. The bosses kid climbs up on a ladder & pours the whole 2 gallons down the diesels throat. The crew was horrified. Everyone scattered looking for something to hide behind. The kid climbed down off the ladder, hit the start button & all that ether lit off. It created SO much pressure, the heads lifted off the block a bit, coolant shot out, then the head slammed back down onto the block & the diesel roared to life. !

@blaydCA

4 ай бұрын

That’s THE best BULLSHIT story I’ve heard in decades! Now.... Tell us about the time aliens kidnapped you. 🤣

Hey josh, where's the regular video's we're used to see here? I enjoy the wrench turning videos.

I always thought it was because the happygas wasn’t timed so as the pistons raised it was squeezed between the rings and so when it fired there was also an explosion between the rings!

This has brought back a couple of memories a buddy of mine had bought a.new international 4070A I was following him he had a big puff of white smoke and started slowing down I pulled over behind him the 32 once can of starting fluid had emptied into the hot running engine that 350 Cummings came apart in some interesting ways and then I had an employee spray an unknown amount in a tired old 220 Cummings and then it would not start stretched head bolts and other bad things happened

I like either, The only argument I’ve heard that i can agree with is, If the starting fluid does not have any lubricants in it, then it would a solvent and possibly cause low/no lubrication in the combustion chamber, and then cause small cavitation in the cylinder walls, and with repeated use would then cause the cavitation to get bigger and bigger (even though we are talking about ten thousandths)

our tractor sometimes needs some in the winter and can start easily without it when warm enough (above -15 celcius)

Thumbs up for Josh

This is my opinion. Don’t use ether. Use a propain torch!

Saw a 2011 deutz with a piston that had broken all around the piston to down to the first compression ring do to starter fluid

I was waiting the cut scene to Peg @ Zipties&biasplys to him 2 canning a 7.3 IDI 😂😂

Good video

Good for removing glue residue

My gramps bent the push rods on his 460 using ether. Just don’t use too much and if it doesn’t stay running then don’t keep spraying it lol

using "go juice" can also put more wear on diesels as the oiling system is not fully ON at first few turns and if you start with lets say 2k revs... yea....

If we're talking about a worn engine that needs ether to start, and gets worse over time, whose only fix is a rebuild of the entire engine, I would call that "addicted to ether". A rebuild isn't a simple issue to just fix. It's a major repair.

Have been using ether in engines long enough to have used ether capsules, Detroit diesel used to have a cup with a large needle to pierce the capsules, this was obviously factory approved. More recently, was doing a PM service to a refrigeration unit, I found the air filter burnt and all of the filter media gone, it had been burnt and only the wire frame of the filter was left, I replaced the four glow plugs, the filter housing and air intake hose between the manifold and the housing, someone overdid the ether, it backfired and caught on fire, somehow the engine is running fine. I don’t know how.

Hahaha, never thought our Start Ya Bastard would be known anywhere outside of Aussie.

I work in underground mining in Canada and last week someone blew a 79 series landcruiser up by starting it with paint because we ran out of ether and brakecleaner.

I don't know, ol' peggin' leggin' just showed us that his beat on 7.3 idi, which has been cosby sauced daily, fired right up at -20c on new glow plugs only.

My engine has only one working glowplug, and I use as little as I can possibly spray. One press of the nozzle and release as fast as possible. The less you use, the safer it is.

Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing ether.

Hi Josh, Marine diesel engine guy here in Ireland, with over 40 years pulling and dragging with diesels from 10 to 1000 hp on boats of different sizes. For what it's worth, my experience with ether ("easy start" over here) is that it's most definitely addictive. I cannot give a rational explanation for this, someone told me once that the small end bushing in the con-rods gets damaged ( wrist pin bearing?) ... I don't know, but I do know that using it more that a couple of times leads to addiction in a short timescale on most engines. Maybe some older American engines are designed in such a way as to tolerate it better, but I'm always going to strongly avoid it.

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I had a Romany 21, the boat with the rope, that had a Perkins 4107 in it. Every once in a while it needed just a puff of ether at that mushroom head air strainer. The engine was built in 1969 and still runs decently.

One thing that I feel should be covered on the topic of ether is spraying it before the engine is rotating this is the biggest cause of damage when using either and is far too common I myself am guilty of this. The problem with spraying before the engine rotates is it allows the ether to settle in whatever cylinder has an open intake valve and when you go to start it that ether is only acting on 1 or 2 cylinders and is creating excessive cylinder pressure and strips any lubrication on the upper cylinder wall, this in turn can lead to ring failure or worse.

Ether puts a shine on the cylinder wall after a while and they lose compression so I was told years a go which I always wondered about.

Hot air gun is good for diesel. Heat the intake first. Then give hot air to air cleaner. Its easier to compress hot air to ignition hot.

0:08 Dude, you got me LMFAO 😆!!!

a while back you listed part numbers for a Caterpiller C7 engine looking for the 4mm? bolt part numbers that go through the middle of the ecm connectors to retain the two connectors to the ecm. Thanks local dealer can't find em 2004 kal1254 or do you remember which video is it i can't find it thanks

Starter fluid fixes symptoms but does not cure the cause.

Glow plugs in a can, retro fit your non equipped diesel with spray on glow plugs, time to fit, two seconds, works every time.

My kioti has never liked to start at 8,000 feet. I figured the ether was a trade off from have to buy a new starter. Butane and propane also work.