Me personally have no issue with cyclists doing this and I have had a lone cyclist before riding out away from the edge along a country road. One thing I find is we need to be careful along these roads as the edges are not a good place for cyclists to be due to fallen branches, broken tarmac and, as I could see on the video here, mud on the road. The fact they went from three to two says they had seen you but also tried to make the overtake shorter by not being three cyclists long. It could also be they are aware of the upcoming bends and are trying to discourage an overtake while acknowledging your presence. You did the right thing in my opinion by holding back and waiting for a better opportunity to pass them. I find a small beep of the horn just prior to starting the overtake can also help let them know you are about to pass, but also it gives them an opportunity to give an indication they are not happy for the pass If only more drivers took care like you around the more vulnerable, I have seen many that would've tried to pass at the most unsuitable place along a road like that

@DriveSmartDash

4 ай бұрын

Luckily I wasn't particularly in a hurry, as I was early for work - but you're right about the road Bob, lots of muck & broken branches along it, so I like to keep my speed down in this case 😉 - I'm in no way getting at the cyclists, to be fair - they did give me a wave once I passed them - just another one of my "commute to work" videos - this road features quite a bit on my channel (if you hadn't noticed already) 😀👍

@smilerbob

4 ай бұрын

@@DriveSmartDash It will become clear no doubt that this is a regular road when I get into the videos 👍 Always good to put these videos up to remind people that you don’t need to rush passed everyone and that NSL doesn’t mean at least 60mph

@DriveSmartDash

4 ай бұрын

@smilerbob Thanks Bob! Yeh, I always remember my hubby saying (when I was taking my lessons) that the speed limit is NOT a target 😉 Also, you might find my other videos a bit boring, as I've maybe mentioned before, they're mainly aimed at Learners & New Drivers, all about forward planning, looking far ahead etc etc - and I even put one up where I was in the wrong, (guess it's only fair) Think it's entitled "Don't make this mistake" but, at least I've learned from it 😉👍 Thanks again for your kind comments!

@cynicalpenguin

4 ай бұрын

Good take but I disagree with you about using the horn, It can be too easily misinterpreted as a sign of anger. a cyclist will respond to the engine/motor revs and know you're passing.

@koningbolo4700

4 ай бұрын

Well if the narrow roads are not a good place to be then stop making your problem everybody elses and stay away from such roads... the alternative is you being called out for acting like a regular bike riding twat...

You are a long way bacn from them and have slowed your pace to theirs - I doubt they realise you want to pass

@Devantejah

4 ай бұрын

Dashcams may have a bit skewed perspective. Also of course a car would want to pass. That's something you should take as a given.

@DriveSmartDash

4 ай бұрын

@Devantejah you're right, they were actually closer than it looks from the dashcam, however I still kept a fair distance, as there was no chance of overtaking safely coming up to the bend 😉👍

@oilybrakes

4 ай бұрын

Was he supposed to slam through them to make his intentions clear? Of course he will slow down when the road is blocked.

Cycling is a nice sport/hobby but unfortunately it seems to attract loads of individuals that feels very entitled having bad, selfish behavior in traffic in various forms. Not long ago a cyclist hit my car door by purpose. At that moment, my car had been stationary for more than a minute, the cyclist had seen it all the time. It was a protest against my car being located slightly on the cycling lane in a junction. The junction is badly designed and turning left, there i zero visibility, so You need to be placed where i was to see other traffic. The cyclist admitted he had seen me all the time(stationary) but as my car was in the "wrong" spot he consider it OK to drive in to my right door. He escaped when i started to call the police. Luckily the dent bulged back so no damages as such. Happy cycling.....

@gencreeper6476

4 ай бұрын

Its kind of the same as the bad parts of automotive. People who feel like they can hold other people up in the name of screwing around on roads that a lot of people use.

@joeordinary209

4 ай бұрын

@@gencreeper6476 True, ther a too many bad drivers on the roads also driving cars. Byt so far only cyclists crashed on me by purpose :)

@darealmrog

4 ай бұрын

What a dick.. A guy once swung open his car door while I was cycling back home from the store, I fell, he apologized, I told him goodbye, and there was no drama.

@DriveSmartDash

4 ай бұрын

@joeordinary209 That's pretty awful what happened to your car, hope you were ok - just no need for the cyclist to do that!! 🥺

@DriveSmartDash

4 ай бұрын

@@darealmrog jeez, that's bad too - glad you're ok. I've nothing against cyclists by the way - my son is a cyclist & was riding his bike in Edinburgh City centre at a junction where he had a green light to carry straight on, but a woman driver coming the opposite way turning right didn't see him and he ended up over her bonnet!! Luckily no broken bones, but his bike was a write-off and her bonnet was dented, however he's still awaiting compensation as the woman admitted liability 🥺

It's primary position; that was a single lane road and nowhere near wide enough for you to pass safely, so it's a deterrent: they are ensuring that if you were incompetent or dangerous enough to think that you could, then you wouldn't be able to without having to physically go through them. Personally on a road like this I would always be looking for an opportunity to pull over for a few seconds and let a car pass me but I'm just a casual commuter. Don't forget patience is one of the best skills for a driver to have, and it's a rare thing on our roads. They might be slow but they have as much right to use the road as a car driver. Just do what you did here, ease off and give them space.

@DriveSmartDash

4 ай бұрын

It's not a single lane road, I can assure you, although there is a narrow bridge where only 1 vehicle can go over at a time. But had the cyclists been travelling in a single file, I could have overtaken them on the long straight, however I wasn't in a hurry that morning, so decided to hang back anyway. To be fair, they were travelling at a decent speed & they did give me a wave further down the road, so no harm done. Thanks for your comment 😊👍

@joeyr88

4 ай бұрын

How would a car coming the other direction get by then? It's not a one way. Move over haha

@eleycki

4 ай бұрын

@@DriveSmartDashyou sound like a very decent driver to be honest; so why the provocative vid title?

@DriveSmartDash

4 ай бұрын

@eleycki I just wondered why they had to ride 2/3 abreast, but from all the comments it's been explained to me, so all good 👍

Easy 300 points there.

@DriveSmartDash

4 ай бұрын

😂 😜👍

Moby "Go" 😜

@DriveSmartDash

4 ай бұрын

😂

In this case they are going pretty fast and might not realize you wanting to pass... Also I think they ride like this to avoid cars even trying to do dangerous passing (until it is safe to pass).

@mcleandaniel

4 ай бұрын

There is no way there is space to overtake a single cyclist on that road.

@adie123

4 ай бұрын

Exactly

@DriveSmartDash

4 ай бұрын

@mcleandaniel there actually is on that long straight part of the road, as I've overtaken a single cyclist before on that same part of the road, but as they were riding 2/3 abreast and coming up to the bend, I decided just to hang back 😉👍

@mandatoryshroomtherapy

4 ай бұрын

GPS says 19km/h ... that's thas not fast even for me on a bike

@Draxel

4 ай бұрын

@@mandatoryshroomtherapy MPH - so - 30 Km/h

Why do they do what.... cycling? For the same reason you're doing what you're doing..... driving.

@DriveSmartDash

4 ай бұрын

Why do they ride 2/3 abreast? That was what I was asking. But they went into single file further down the road, so worked out ok 👍

@mandatoryshroomtherapy

4 ай бұрын

Most hardcore cyclists I know are douchebags when driving their cars or trucks ... being entitled doesn't stop when they get off the bikes

@DriveSmartDash

4 ай бұрын

@@mandatoryshroomtherapy 😮

@320iSTWEdition

4 ай бұрын

@@mandatoryshroomtherapy Do YOU cycle? Would YOU cycle as far left as possible riding over mud, stones and whatever is lying around there then being overtaken by a car passing you with a distance of just a few inches nearly getting struck by their side mirror? Now think about their "entitlement" again..... maybe some of them just want come home alive...... just like you do in your metal cage.....

@mandatoryshroomtherapy

4 ай бұрын

yes i cycle ... and when i do i ride single file as is the law around here. and if a road is unsafe i don't ride it. period. a lot theses cyclists that just want to get home safe often burn stop signs and red lights just to keep their up cadence. no i would not ride on the far left as i am in north america where we have to deal with much bigger trucks such as Ford's F150. anyway good luck with your unsafe 3 abreast riding.@@320iSTWEdition

Because they are allowed to! It is safer on narrow roads to ride two abreast and avoid being run off the road by drivers trying to overtake. I suggest you refresh your knowledge of the Highway Code.

@DriveSmartDash

4 ай бұрын

They were actually riding 3 abreast, then one of them moved over, but it still wasn't safe for me to overtake as they were coming up to the bend, as you can see from the clip, I did hang back and gave them plenty of space, to be fair - they were going pretty quick, so didn't hold me up too long 😉👍

Weekend warriors who would cuss cyclists doing the same if their commute used such roads

@DriveSmartDash

4 ай бұрын

I wasn't "cussing" the cyclists, unfortunately I have to use this road as it's the quickest way to work. And I do respect the fact that they are entitled to be on the road as much as anyone, that's why I kept my distance. Thanks for your comment though 😊👍

Because they only read the bits of the Highway Code that suit them, and they ignore the rest! Even if that means they only read the first half of a sentence and stop before they get to the words that clarify the point being made, and the common sense part goes against what they want to do ...... But also, the people that wrote the Highway Code really should have foreseen that happening and written it more effectively!

@justwannaridemabike

4 ай бұрын

What part of the Highway Code are they breaching?

@pjay3028

4 ай бұрын

@@justwannaridemabike they should go to single file and make some reasonable attempt to let the car pass. I think you may have just proved my point perfectly! 🤣🤣

@pjay3028

4 ай бұрын

@@justwannaridemabike Rule 72 Road positioning. When riding on the roads, there are two basic road positions you should adopt, depending on the situation. 1) Ride in the centre of your lane, to make yourself as clearly visible as possible, in the following situations on quiet roads or streets - if a faster vehicle comes up behind you, move to the left to enable them to overtake, if you can do so safely

@justwannaridemabike

4 ай бұрын

@@pjay3028 You have just refuted yourself I’m afraid. ‘if you can do so safely’…. Firstly the driver did not make their intentions clear that they wanted to pass so it’s hardly the cyclists fault for cycling safely ‘two abreast’ to force upcoming drivers to pass only when safe to do so I.e. when there is 1.5metres or more. “leave at least 1.5 metres when overtaking cyclists at speeds of up to 30mph, and give them more space when overtaking at higher speeds.” Secondly There was not a safe place to pass and the video creator stated they passed the cyclists further down the road when it ‘opened up’ The problem you have as a driver is impatience. Please work on this

@pjay3028

4 ай бұрын

@@justwannaridemabike the question raised was a general point, not necessarily specifically about this video. We have all come across cyclists behaving utterly selfishly and I gave my opinion about how and why that comes about.

Your first mistake was slowing down.

@DriveSmartDash

4 ай бұрын

I didn't want to pressure them and even when they went from 3 to 2 abreast, I still wouldn't overtake as we were coming up to a few bends 😉👍

It's a very narrow road with many blind bends and no markings.It makes drivers slow rather than take risks, it's also a group which is more dangerous to overtake. Just be patient, they'll make way when it's safe 😊

@thenerdyouknowabout

4 ай бұрын

No, they wont. How many cyclists do you ever see deliberately making way...

@justwannaridemabike

4 ай бұрын

⁠@@thenerdyouknowaboutI make way when it’s safe to do so. You need to exercise more patience. You arriving at your destination 1-4mins later than intended is not worth someone else’s safety and wellbeing

@mcleandaniel

4 ай бұрын

You're both right. There are plenty of a hole cyclists out there that don't make way when safe and reasonable. But there are also plenty of ahole motorists that are too stupid to drive and take completely unreasonable risks with cyclist lives. What goes around, comes around. Very often when an ahole overtakes me dangerously, I catch up to them a couple miles down the road. And I can assure you, I'm no pacifist and there is no soy in my diet.

@DriveSmartDash

4 ай бұрын

To be fair, they did actually make way further down the road, so no harm done 👍

Because they are protecting themselves from unsafe passing. Just chill. You wouldn't want to cause an accident with your impatience would you.

@DriveSmartDash

4 ай бұрын

I wasn't being impatient, as you can see I kept well back from them, as I knew I couldn't overtake safely anyway, however I got past further down the road and even got a wave from them, so all good 😉👍

@chrisgray4651

4 ай бұрын

@@DriveSmartDash good lad!

@DriveSmartDash

4 ай бұрын

@chrisgray4651 haha 😄, you do know I'm a 60 year old granny!! 😂👍

@chrisgray4651

4 ай бұрын

@@DriveSmartDash of course!

@DriveSmartDash

4 ай бұрын

@@chrisgray4651 I'll take that as a compliment then 😂👍

By ‘this’ do you mean that they cycle on the road? I don’t see what the problem is here?

Yeah, they should've moved over when you started driving from home, what were they thinking? Why would they move over for a car that's 100m behind and not going faster than they are?

@DriveSmartDash

4 ай бұрын

If you care to read the other comments, I've already had this discussion with a few others, not going to explain myself again. But thanks anyway for your comment, made me chuckle 😃👍

This is done to signal the car driver that it is not safe to pass. It's a courtesy to the car and improve safety of the cyclist by stopping drivers makeing dangerous overtakes. If this happens just follow the cyclists behind making sure they notice you, as soon as the road widens they'll be more than happy to let you through. Bare in mind that no cyclist enjoys a car pressuring from behind, they only do this to prioritise their safety.

@DriveSmartDash

4 ай бұрын

I get that now, but I was in no way pressuring them, I gave them plenty space 😊👍

Maybe they agree to the bump to pass approch !

Why do they do what..? Cycle faster than you can drive..? If that was a car in front of you you wouldn't be thinking of overtaking would you..? On country lanes we just join the queue, whether that is behind several cars, a tractor, a horse or a herd of cows... Stick to motorways if you can't follow the country code.

@DriveSmartDash

2 ай бұрын

You're missing the point here - I only asked the question to the cycling community, which has already been explained to me. I don't have a problem with cyclists (both my sons are cyclists). And of course I wouldn't overtake on this particular twisty road, as 1. I wasn't in any hurry that morning, 2. didn't want to risk another vehicle coming in the opposite direction, and 3. I got passed further down the road once it straightened out, so all good 😊👍

Typical Spandex warrior arrogance!

@justwannaridemabike

4 ай бұрын

What? It’s for everyone’s safety By riding two a breast they force overtaking drivers to wait until there is enough space to safely pass rather than squeezing through a gap that is too small and put the cyclist at serious risk of harm. It’s not arrogance, it’s safe riding

@steverandall5814

4 ай бұрын

@@justwannaridemabike This is a rolling roadblock by arrogant cyclists who think they can "force" drivers to comply with their wishes. What if friends and I slowed traffic on the Motorway to 50mph because we thought it was "safer"? How well do you think that would go over?

@justwannaridemabike

4 ай бұрын

@@steverandall5814 what is the safe passing distance when overtaking a cyclist?

@justwannaridemabike

4 ай бұрын

@@steverandall5814 ‘force drivers to comply with their wishes’… Yes exactly, the cyclists wish to remain safe. You would rather risk someone’s safely than have to wait between 30secs to a few minutes until it’s safe to pass.

@steverandall5814

4 ай бұрын

@@justwannaridemabike What a load of bull! You're just plain selfish and arrogant! Instead of moving over (and/or stopping for 15 seconds like any other slow-moving vehicle), to let a motorist pass, you and your cohorts choose to commandeer the entire roadway as though it was your own private bicycle track...and you wonder why people flip you off.

1.5m clearance for overtaking under 30mph. So 2 abreast or more is perfectly fine on this sort of road. They should let you pass when it is safe to do so

@DriveSmartDash

4 ай бұрын

They did eventually, thanks 😊👍

Do what?

@DriveSmartDash

4 ай бұрын

Ride 3 abreast - but it's all been explained to me now, so all good 👍

Because they thrive on being a pain in the rear.

Perhaps because it's a narrow road?

@user-eb8tb3wk9v

4 ай бұрын

Bellend 😂 lol WHAT

@user-eb8tb3wk9v

4 ай бұрын

All the more reason for single file you clown.

r soles

Because they entitled p…..

Don't see them doing anything wrong.

@TheEcholima07

4 ай бұрын

Little bit far over to the right going round that blind bend at the end on a NSL road. Possible risk of an oncoming car/van/lorry.

@DriveSmartDash

4 ай бұрын

@TheEcholima07 This road can be very unpredictable at times, sometimes it's really quiet and I feel like I've got the road all to myself, then other times you could be faced with massive HGV's transporting tractors etc coming round the bend - as happened in one of my other clips on the very same road - see "Expect the Unexpected" video on my channel if interested. 😊👍kzread.info/dash/bejne/ln96yNikkcjUnqg.htmlsi=b-7l8kbpzTo_c_2T