I've never flown on the 146 but something about a 4 engine regional jet is just fascinating to me.

@marcdavey

2 жыл бұрын

They are great a/c to fly on, get the chance before they are gone

@nippanipps_81g76

2 жыл бұрын

I have been on a test flight, after we done heavy maintenance. Very awesome plane to fly on and work on ,

@marcdavey

2 жыл бұрын

@@nippanipps_81g76 Bet that was an amazing experience? Only time I flew on one was out of London City airport

@rsambrook

2 жыл бұрын

I used the fly the RJ100 for 3 years around Europe (2001-2003 for BA). Great fun to fly. The A320 is an easier office to operate.

@Doug6412

2 жыл бұрын

Flew on them regularly Great craft. Very quiet.

The need to operate on gravel strips in often appalling winter weather is why the BAe 146/Avro RJ has found a major niche in Canada. In fact, a number of retired planes may end up in Canadian service with airlines servicing First Nation communities in northern Canada.

I've flown on the BAe 146 a few times. Always a comfortable flight, and with the high mounted wings a great view from every seat.

I've always loved the 146/RJ. Cute but also comfortable, safe and stable. Beautiful little thing.

I have twenty years experience as an AME on this type in Canada. These days it's all Q4's and 737's for me but the 146/RJ is still my favorite.

I'm fortunate to have flown both the 737-200 for Firstair and the Avro RJ for Summit into the gravel strips in northern Canada. I can say that the little RJ is very capable as a short field aircraft into these gravel strips and would frequently be landing at max weight. Take off was the real delight with the RJ though, with those four engines singing their tune you'd be airborne in just around 3000' at max weight, or very close to it using flap 33. It's a real pilots airplane... a true delight to hand fly and maneuver on the approach or departure. If both the 737 and RJ were sitting on the ramp and I could fly either one....I'd walk over to the RJ.

@ADAPTATION7

2 жыл бұрын

3000 feet? That's short.

@allansbullet

2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic mate!! Did you ever fly into Norman Wells? I lived there for 6+ years in the 1950's, our only real way in or out was a DC-3 callsign CF-ESO which belonged Imperial Oil - ESSO! It was an incredible experience for over 6 years of my life and taught me so much about what I've done with the rest of my life!! I've done all sorts of incredible stuff, including shooting deer out of helicopters back in 1974 for venison export! I've lived in New Zealand for the past years, by the way, and I'm 71 years old!!

@allansbullet

2 жыл бұрын

OOOPPPS! Should have said the past years!! Cheers!

@allansbullet

2 жыл бұрын

WHISKEY TANGO FOXTROT?? It wouldn't put the past 48 years!!

@allansbullet

2 жыл бұрын

Finally go the Charlie Uniform November Tangos to put it in properly!!!

I've flown on these a couple of times. The touchdown is so gentle I didn't even know we were on the ground. Just a lovely plane to fly on.

My all-time favorite design! Was sad to see them depart from Burbank, CA for the final time.

I flew on the 146 from Denver CO to Aspen C0. Totally amazing plane incredibly powerful. At altitude over Denver the pilot announced departure opening up the throttles and the plane launched again into the air. We dived into Aspen again really incredible.

@GeorgeCMcRae

2 жыл бұрын

Burbank is like that. You literally fall into the airport. Took off like a rocket. Marvelous airplane.

I noticed there were quite a few 146/RJ's parked in storage at Kemble / Cotswold Airport/UK. Slowly these have been vanishing - and I don't think it's for scrapping in the boneyard! Here's hoping they are finding new homes and in service in the world somewhere - luv'em!! For history lovers, the 146 started off as a design study at Hatfield, UK by De Havilland Aircraft, who were then merged with Hawker Siddeley, later absorbed by BAC before name change to BAe..........it must have been a good design to survive all that upheaval. Also, while under HS, some of the design work was passed to another company within the HS group - Gloster Aircraft based in Hucclecote, Gloucestershire. One of my old workmates temporarily transferred to Hatfield to do design work on the transport doors, many, many years ago now - happy days!!

@mattteee2973

Жыл бұрын

Always a few of them at Cranfield too, I can see them parked up from my bathroom window and the lineup is regularly changing. Cool looking things, even on the ground.

Air Cal operated BAE 146's in the 1980's and they were a joy to fly. I regularly shuttled between Oakland and Burbank on weekends on them . Very sad the merger with American ended them.

The only time I flew with RJ100 was my travel to Libya. It was a chartered flight for an oil company. We took off in a city called Zintan and landed on gas field in Sarir to unload workers, and continued to Benghazi. The plane is smooth, I sat close to the engine, and hardly hear the sound, I thought we lost power after a couple of minute because turbines have less sound. I think it's a good aircraft.

I love going my flight school at CYXX and seeing Conair's 146's parked right out front. Beautiful aircraft.

@adrianwapcaplet2773

3 ай бұрын

You're looking at RJ-85s, not BAe-146s.

I had a memorable flight on a British Airways BAe146 between London Gatwick and Rotterdam in the mid 80s. I don't think we were ever higher than 10,000 feet on a beautiful clear sunny afternoon, so some lovely views flying over the English Channel, along the French, Belgian and Dutch coast.

Air Canada from Ottawa to Montreal a long time ago. As soon as we reached cruising altitude, we stated making our descent.

Flew in one, once, I think it was YYJ-YYC. I remember noticing that the cabin fittings (e.g. the window shade, the seatback tray, etc.) all felt like they were in *much* better shape than on the nearly-new Boeing I'd flown on a few days prior. I guess it wasn't just the mechanicals that were a bit overengineered! "They don't make 'em like they used to."

I worked Air Atlantic's 146s back in the day. Neat machine.

I flew on them a few times between Manchester (UK) and Zurich. Fortunately Swiss chose a 3+2 seating arrangement, so a very comfortable experience. I loved them and was sorry to see them go.

In the early 80's I was attending an airshow at Barton Areodrome near Manchester. UK. This is a grass field strip only suitable for light aircraft. The late cancellation of one of the display exhibits had created a lull in proceedings, when unexpectedly the loudspeakers announced that they had managed to get permissions for a visit by a prototype of this aircraft that was flying "on test" nearby. A few minutes later, the aircraft arrived overhead and performed a number of passes. Whisper quite and a beautiful sight... then as now. Was this the aircraft's first "public debut"..I don't know, maybe not, but the event has stayed in my mind ever since.

Absolute magic little aircraft!! Flew on one several times here in New Zealand - loved it!! Incredibly quiet inside and outside! Only thing that killed it here in NZ was that it had 4 engines, which required far more maintenance than 2. But as for shortfield - well, it was incredible!! Only thing against it was the fuel consumption - a little heavy. A beautiful airplane!!

I flew on a lot of 146/RJs in the nineties on business travel to smaller Canadian cities. Also had a few flights with Swiss in Europe. It was by far my favourite aircraft.

I’ve been flying one for the last 14 years. I’ve flown close to 60 different types of aircraft and can say unequivocally this is my second most favorite I’ve ever flown as a pilot. She is just a dream to fly.

I had opportunity to see the Conair RJ's in action all summer during our severe fire season in BC. They were based at the Kamloops Airport, and overflew our home constantly headed out and back. They are sooo very quiet, I would be outside and would hear this faint sound of a jet engine throttling back, look up and there she was coming in. I got a lot of good photos

I used the 146/RJ countless times: Dan-Air, Air UK, Crossair, Sabena (all now defunct) and BA cityflier. The last left a bad taste: having had to change my reservation following a bereavement, I was made to show a death certificate at check-in. The good news was that the consequent delay meant I got bumped up to Business Class: just as well, since the six-abreast layout was far too cramped with all seats occupied. In 3+2, an excellent aeroplane: I used to try for a seat just behind the wing so I could watch - and listen to - the complex flaps deploying and retracting.

Been flying domestic US and internationally for 40 years. This was always my favorite. Wish there were more like it. I understand the expense of a 4 engine configuration, but this sure is a sweet plane.

Early 1980’s I was a F/A with Golden West Airlines in So Cal. We had De Havilland Dash-7’s and were desperately hoping we would get some of these to work on. GWA grounded itself (stupid unions) in 1982 so it never happened. I still think this is one of the best looking a/c in the sky (along with the Dash-7). Thanks for this cool vid.

In the 1980s I was working at Canadair/Bombardier "Regional Jet" developing pilot training programs for their new aircraft. The Bombardier RJ was in a race to establish the concept of a small jet to compete against turbo-prop aircraft for short haul flights. The BAE146/AvroRJ was another contender. Avro 'tweaked' Bombardier by sponsoring a large billboard in Montreal, right outside the Bombardier RJ HQ building. It read "The Regional Jet - AvroRJ" with a huge photo of their aircraft. It always made me smile as I wondered about the Bombardier executives who somehow overlooked officially registering / protecting that iconic name: Regional Jet. At any rate, the Bombardier line soon established itself as "The" defacto Regional Jet, and went on to a very successful run with several variants developed later on. Thanks for this update on "where the AvroRJ' is now. Cheers and thanks!

They’re so cute. Like a baby 747. And QUIET! United Express used them as commuters in the States during the 80s. Wonderful little airship. Thanks for posting!

4:52 look at that beautiful wingtip vortex!

Worked for years as an engineer on 146/RJ85/100. Ultra comfortable to fly, easy to maintain, very straightforward aircraft. 4:44 that's former Bee-line OO-DJY

Flew on them a lot when AirBC/Jazz/AC flew them on northern BC routes. Still remember the special announcement on descent, the sound you are about to hear is a unique characteristic of the Bae146 aircraft as flaps are lowered for landing. Then the howl would start. Very comfortable plane and a big upgrade over the Dash 7/8 turboprops.

@wp272

5 ай бұрын

Just flew in an RJ and came here to look up what the deal was with all the sounds, the landing gear also sound like they are clunking right against the floorboards hah. Thanks for the info

I had the pleasure of flying the RJ100 in the mid '90s once, with CrossAir (collaborated with SwissAir I think). They where calling their RJ's Jumbolino, with comfortable leather seats and great service. And a very nice airplane to fly too. If I could fly it again, I would!

Mesaba/Northwest Airlink (NWA) had RJ85s. I really enjoyed flying on them.

They still fly not just in Canada, but also in The Philippines, the BAE146-200 and -300 operated by Skyjet, while some RJ100 operated by Royal Air Philippines and ex-SWISS aircraft

Some points to add: Tronos also developed an air tanker conversion for the 146/RJ; if I remember correctly Neptune aviation operate the aircraft with that conversion. Tronos does the MRO on said airtankers in addition to other 146/RJs.

I flew once on a BAe 146 flight from Unalaska to Anchorage. This was in January 1986 after a trip to a drilling rig “Big Dipper” operating in the Bearing Sea. I was impressed by the short takeoff and how steep this aircraft could climb, circling back avoiding and clearing mountains. I enjoyed the sightseeing that flight offered of the Aleutian Islands and approach to Anchorage. A very convenient flight from such a remote location!

Ideal plane for the Canadian Arctic. Been on one. Excellent craft.

PSA used to have these aircraft and I loved them. They were roomy for their size and quiet. I miss them.

The last time I flew on one of these was March of 1988. PSA airlines from San Diego to San Jose. :-)

I remember seeing the 146 flying into Hatfield in the 80's. It was amazing to see the short take-off too.

I think the Queen still has at least one 146 in the Royal Flight. Seen it on FR24 a few times. Good aircraft!

Flew on them when AC had them in their fleet. Honestly, the 146/RJ is in my top 3 for civil aviation aircraft. It was sad to see them go. But now that Bombardier/Airbus is doing so well with the C Series/A200s, you wonder if these can make a comeback of sorts. Here's hoping.

@michaelbujaki2462

2 жыл бұрын

I think that they might. This video indicates that they're proving their worth in firefighting and in areas where paved runways aren't possible. Besides, if I'm flying to a remote area, I want something with four engines.

@Kishanth.J

2 жыл бұрын

Didn’t bombardier pull out of the A200s completely.

@gauzed7556

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kishanth.J Out of necessity. Company had overextended itself and pretty much sold everything off except for their business jet unit. Now the C Series is the A200 family at Airbus. It's a great plane and it's proving their is still a 90-110 seat market.

@diggr13

2 жыл бұрын

Air Canada never operated this type. It was Air Nova and Air BC . After the regionals were merged it was Jazz for a while. These were always AIr Canada flight numbers for the sake of marketing but like I said, AC never operated the type.

@Kishanth.J

2 жыл бұрын

@@gauzed7556 I am not saying that the C series was bad. I just sad that it has come too this. I mostly sad about Bombardier pulling out of train manufacturing.

In 2001 my University thesis partner and I completed a simulation using this aircraft from Toronto Island Airport (formerly the Port George VI Island Airport and Toronto City Centre Airport and now Billy Bishop Airport). Our study took place before Porter started, with their fleet of Dash 8 Q400 turbo props - we actually discounted the Q400 from our assessment as fully loaded it required a longer runway for takeoff and landing. The BAe146 is an awesome aircraft, our model proved that the airport could be run at max capacity using this plane without violating the cumulative noise restrictions placed on the airport by the tripartite agreement that governs its operation. This was the one plane that could land and take off on a

I worked for Mesaba Airlines years ago and loved these planes. Fun to work on and fly on.

The 146 was called the plane the Unions saved ! At one stage during its development Hawker Sidderly were going to end the project but the Unions at the plant were convinced that it was a winner and secured Government support for the project and as the video shows it was a success and its low noise levels helped the London City Airport get building approval.

Still underrated.Great aircraft.

Flew on the RJ85 countless times. Always a joy. Such great engineering. The LF 507 engines aren't the most reliable though, despite their lovely, soft sound.

I used to be a frequent flyer from London City Airport and grew to love these comfortable little jets. The air inside could be a little bit "smoky" at times.

Such a cool airplane. I was on a BAE 146 with Northwest Airlines and also Air BC. Nice video Alex!

I had the opportunity to fly on North Cariboo’s RJ, beautiful aircraft!

The BAE 146 flew Denver to Rapid City up until the early 2000’s. Fun airplane to ground handle and almost always had a seat to non- rev on.

I flew on the Avro when Northwest Airlies' regional operator used them on the MSP - SUX route back in the early 00's. Seemed like a decent little airplane but it wasn't around much because they typically used a DC-9 on that route along with some Saab 340's and Beech 1900's. and I flew on all three of those several times.

Still a fairly common sight here in Western Australia where they are used for flights to remote mine sites.

My favorite plane of all the time. I always wanted to fly one. "BAE 146 Have a quite day!"

my local airfield in Cranfield, Bedfordshire UK has a company that rebuilds and overhauls them. There's a disused runway that usually has 4 or 5 waiting to be worked on or parted out

I have flown this twice. Once from Germany under Lufthansa fleet and once from Finland under Blue1.

Grew up flying on the BAE-146 across Canada🇨🇦 Great video Alex! THANK YOU!

Great blast from the past video! In California, Air Cal, PSA and WestAir/United Express flew the 146. The ALF502 engines were a turbofan conversion from the T-55 turboshaft engines that powered the CH-47 Chinook. The early engines had teething problems, so much so that BAe was said to mean "Bring Another Engine"... The problems got worked out and it became a very reliable airplane. In the late '80s I enjoyed flying a thousand hours in the 146 and loved the spacious flight deck, short field capability, its delightfully light controls and trailing beam landing gear that made most landings "greasers"... Its main downsides were its slow speed compared to other jets in busy airspace, and a ground air conditioning system that probably works great in Canada, but was clearly not designed for use in the hot Central Valley of California. IMO it makes an ideal tanker because of its carrying capacity, terrific slow speed handling and maneuverability.

The avro RJ is honestly one of my favourite looking planes.

i Work on these now with Summit. Pretty cool airplane. Problem is I'm not sure what they'll ever find to replace them with. Unless boeing makes another Gravel Modded 737

The 146s were a big part of Air Canada's "regional" fleet (Air Nova before that was moved over to "Jazz"). Commonly used out of Montréal and the Maritimes. It has the notable feature of pumping in mist into the cabin during dinal stages of descent ( warm moist iar from outside being cooled down and moist8re condensing). Was such a cool sight to see the mist come out of the vents on ceiling and drrop down to floor. BAe got out of its own jets in 2001 and when Airbus became a corporation of its own (instead of joint venture) it fully pulled out and Airbus pirchased the wing manufacturing facility at Broughton even though there no longer was a British partner in UK. It has since been focused on defence contracts. The 146s were also used by Ansett in Australia. (and they origially had serious problems with oil fumes getting into aircraft ventillation and making crew sick), Also notable. the Windsors own or owned a 146 and Charles used it to fly to Paris to bring back the body of Lady Diana (during a time where that family was secverely criticised for not planning a proper funeral). The CRJ being a twin engine got all the orders in the mid to later 1990s and dried up the market for the BAe 146; The renamed and revamped Bae 146/RJ plane was too little too late and still 4 engines for a regional jet. BAe got out at the right time in 2001. 9/11 dried up the market for most regional jets and Bombardier refised to cut production for the CRJ200 and needed its first bailout (Beaudoin family injuected new capital in exchange for taking the recreational products back to family owned business (now BRP ). The 146/RJ with 4 engines coudln't really compete against the CRJ 700 and planned 900, and Bombardier prior to its near bankrupcy (and bankrupcty of Nortwest) was about ready to launch the C-Series in early 2000s - a launch that ended up being delayed by many many years).

@johngrantham8024

2 жыл бұрын

The mist drifting into the cabin scared the bejesus out of a colleague of mine who was terrified of flying, the first time we flew to Guernsey for a business meeting😂 Also, the Royal family didn't own any 146, they are Royal Air Force VIP transports operated by 32 Squadron out of Northolt. Charles didn't pilot it to collect Diana's body, it was an RAF crew. Charles used to be allowed to take the controls sometimes but that ended after he damaged one during landing in 1994.

So I Do believe it is one of the most beautiful aircraft, the ones, in my opinion, are the Beacgcraft Stagerwing, the DC-3, the Beach-18, the Boeing 707, the Boeing 747, and the BAE Avro 146 that brought flying airplanes gracefully to our future...

It's interesting about their gravel runway certification - one of the other few passenger jets actually designed for such service was the three engined Yakovlev Yak-42, which the Soviets used to great effect in serving their northern mines and communities with gravel runways. Having flown on one, they are great aircraft, albeit also 'overengineered' - but the 146/RJ fleet undoubtably need less maintenance than an old Soviet design would! Four engines in northern Canada, three engines in northern Siberia - redundancy is good! Yakovlev claimed that the Yak-42 could take off on only two of its three engines, and could cruise and land safely on just one. I suspect the 146 can make similar claims easily.

Flew frequently on 146s on Brussels Airlines. Epic plane.

Worked on building the tail fin jig for these at BAE Brough in early 1979

I've spent the last four months working and living adjacent to the south terminal at YVR, where both Summit and Caribou North have a presence. I've often wondered about these distinctive aircraft and am so glad I found this video--thanks so much for your excellent content!

Sn Brussels used them a lot, very comfy planes. Loved to fly with them.

outstanding, I"ve often wondered about these aircraft, having seen many parked unused at Canadian airstrips over the years. Thanks for the info

This channel is the best thing I've come across this year! love it! kudos!

I see them so often that I forgot how special they are. Living in Vancouver isnt as dull as a lot of people think! Convair metropolitains are flying here daily,still!!!

You make great videos Alex. Keep it up!

BTW, first time I saw a Antonov 124 (at Mirabel/YMX many moons ago), my first thoughts were " hey, a BAe 146 on steroids :-)" (high wing, 4 engines, hump on top, beefy landing gear).

Dude, I love your channel, you keep answering all of the questions I had but never asked. Liked and subbed 👍

Lately I’ve been getting some of your older videos that I haven’t seen pop up on my feed. Really enjoyed this one. I’ve never had the pleasure of flying in one of these, but I’ve seen plenty at my home airport (YKA), both civilian & Conair (looks like those photos in your video are from YKA) & I’ve seen North Cariboo Air RJ100s parked at YXJ. Cool aircraft!

I used to fly out of BUR a lot back in the late 90s, would routinely see these (in United livery IIRC) on the tarmac. I believe they were used to fly to a specific rocky mountain ski destination (Vail maybe) that had a short runway.

Ah I'm on charter flights with these every 2 weeks to a remote worksite in northern canada, it seemed quirky compared to the 'normal' planes i usually am on. Had to look it up!

I would love to fly on one of these as a passenger before they completely go out of service. This is one of the planes on my must fly bucket list.

I flew on these jets a few times in the period from 2000-2010 when I was working in Belgium. They were part of the Sabena and Brussels Airlines fleet back in the day.

@Stephane1995

2 жыл бұрын

I learned to work on those jets at BA, I know some of them went to Canada after being retired here

Time Air used these in Canada. Always liked the look and was able to fly twice in Alberta. Quiet and stable

You have the greatest sponsorship!!

The 146 was one of the cutest " baby" jets. I had the same affection for this aircraft, that I now have for the A319.❤❤

1 memory from 30(?) years ago. YYC to somewhere interior BC. The flight attendant coming on mic to notify us that the dog-awful noises about to emanate from the landing gear was entirely normal. She was right - about the dog-awful noise. Glad she told us.

I've always wondered if any were still flying. Good to see there are.

Another Great video ! Thanks for your efforts

thank you Alex your videos are always interesting and educating

Great timing - I saw one in Terrace, BC, last week and wondered what I was looking at. Now I know!

I’ve just noticed recently the Summit RJ85 doing flights between Winnipeg and Thompson, MB. I’m not sure if it was just a charter, but in general, the Summit RJ Series aircraft are seen regularly in Winnipeg.

@limitedkanji

2 жыл бұрын

ya I see em pretty often at YKF too.

Pacific Southwest Airlines (long gone now) had a few, they were using them in the '80s to provide scheduled airline service to LAX from Buchanan Field west of San Francisco, where their low-noise and short take off capability made the whole project feasible. After USAir absorbed PSA they switched to turboprops instead.

not many 4 engine planes left, especially in that size range. That adds such a level of safety for flying in the north into remote areas. Will keep my eyes peeled for them. Thanks Alex

I used to ride them from Detroit to Aspen. It was perfectly suited for the weird landing conditions.

I saw one of these two years ago operating as an air tanker in southern Idaho. Very unique planes.

Great AC, enjoyed flying in them.

There are several here in Adelaide flyng for Cobhams. They are ex Airlines of West Australia (Ansett) and are still well regarded and do mine FIFO work. Everyone loves them. Getting on a bit now but very reliable.

Really enjoyed flying on these jet when Messabi flew them out of Minneapolis/StPaul for Northwest Airlines.

Use to fly out of Cranbrook on these many years ago. Can't remember if it was PWA back then that had a few of these. But i do remember being warned by the flight stewardess during landing approach that the landing gear makes a distinct loud bang when lowered. And it sure did. Great plane and sure miss them being in regular service. Glad some still have the privilege of flying in the remaining fleet.

@adrianwapcaplet2773

3 ай бұрын

It was Air BC that used to operate the BAe-146 to places like Cranbrook under the 'Air Canada Connector' brand. It consolidated with four other regional airlines to become AC Jazz.

See these all the time around Yellowknife. Thanks for sharing.

Love the timing of this video. I literally just saw one of these take off at our airport the other day and was like WTF is that plane? Flightradar24 told me what it was and I had never even heard of this model of aircraft before.

With the frequent big forest fires we have had in California the last few years, I have seen these air tankers used often. They work very well in canyons as mentioned because they can very quickly ascend after a drop to avoid rapidly approaching ridges.

I always enjoy your vlogs.....thanks!

I used to work for Cobham in Australia, and worked on the RJs a lot. I actually miss them haha