Latest display port standards also support higher resolutions at higher refresh rates than the latest HDMI standard as well.

@martheunen

9 ай бұрын

yeah, now if they could only actually give products said dp2.0 ports... for now i'm still better off with hdmi2.1 vs my dp1.4a ports for 4k 120hz dynamic HDR.

@RainboomDash

9 ай бұрын

I mean, hdmi 2.1 can do 2160p144 10-bit uncompressed or 4320p120 10-bit with DSC.. so not sure it really matters THAT much.. but yes, it is one bonus

@animegeek6118

9 ай бұрын

@@RainboomDashhdmi 2.1 can not do 120 8k the max on hdmi 2.1 is 8k 60 or 4k 120. Get your info right.

@PJM257

9 ай бұрын

​@@martheunen The same thing is true for HDMI though. I have yet to use or even see a single device with HDMI 2.1.

@martheunen

9 ай бұрын

@@PJM257 tons of videocards, tv's and consoles have them... there is more hdmi 2.1 available vs dp2.0 afaik

DP is amazing. Especially because it's an open source standard that can be properly implemented in open source drivers. (Unlike HDMI)

@chutcentral

9 ай бұрын

Open source sucks

@mathman0569

9 ай бұрын

@@chutcentral It doesn't really, tell that to all the companies running servers with linux which if I remember correctly has a 90% share of servers, or the plethera of companies that base their stuff off of open source stuff, which apple, android and playstation all do, with apple and playstation using BSD and with android using linux.

@linkfreeman1998

9 ай бұрын

@@mathman0569 it doesnt matter, it really depends on how good a software or hardware was made, the fact if it is proprietary or open source is not related at all.

@shanent5793

9 ай бұрын

They said you need to pay a fee and join VESA to get access to the spec. That's not an open source

@DoubsGaming

9 ай бұрын

​@@shanent5793FOSS (Free and Open Source) does not mean free of cost in either sense. Free means it's free to use and manipulate and change. Open source means the source or source code is easily accessible. Technically something can be "free" But you still have to pay for it and you can't directly see the source code. And for open source it could be expensive but as long as someone can buy it and easily see it's open source. There are some caveats with the legal definition and license's that may contradict this or something idk.

0:19 this version runs on cupcakes

@malykothedragon

2 ай бұрын

Guess I'm not the only one who noticed xd

@cumburger69

2 ай бұрын

eDP 445bit

@EggnogOfc

Ай бұрын

beat me too it

@BockyDuh

Ай бұрын

edp

@yatesnet

8 күн бұрын

Did you take your medicine? A cupcake. Your generation seemingly lacks all context.

Tried looking up EDP and now I'm on a watchlist.

@caboose9843

9 ай бұрын

embedded displayport v445

@medokn99

9 ай бұрын

Edp445😳

@user-kl4ur8wl9p

2 ай бұрын

LOL

@grimoireweiss5203

16 күн бұрын

He only wanted some cupcakes.

I wish DisplayPort was more standard, because it’s more capable in a lot of ways. Edit: by “more standard”, I meant more common especially on things like TVs.

@Omegabird113

9 ай бұрын

I think why HDMI is standard is all the DRM stuff and that people are just used to it.

@idzkk

9 ай бұрын

There should be one for masses one for ethusiasts

@simonnovak

9 ай бұрын

@@idzkk That's basically how it is. HDMI for the masses and DP for enthusiasts. Yeahh boi. Typed to you from....a displayport. sorta.

@user-xh3nm8oe2l

9 ай бұрын

​@@idzkkwhy? What's stopping the masses from using DP?

@nateholden7598

9 ай бұрын

Me who wants RCA lol.

My entire monitor fell off of my desk once and the only thing that stopped it from smashing into a billion pieces was the raw strength of displayport. Didn't even need a new cable!

@MrMOGHammer

9 ай бұрын

you probably need a new desk if things start falling down from it. If it is because you accidentally knocked it off the table yourself, in that case you need to upgrade your brain to a non clumsy one. Should work too.

@jeanmont

9 ай бұрын

That's pretty good pro-DP testimony

@lnstall_Wizard

4 ай бұрын

damn, thats legit.

@ZaHandle

4 ай бұрын

Like how my phone was saved by the headphone cable acting as a bungee cord (Bring it back Apple. You killed the ipod already)

There is almost no reason for HDMI to exist these days. It only became the defacto standard because film studios wanted content protection when films were sourced from devices like Blu-Ray. In the age of streaming that's no longer an issue. It would be good if TV companies started incorporating at least one DP input as standard so at least people would have the choice of what cable they want to use.

@iBoyLPs

9 ай бұрын

I think Netflix and co are still being protected. So its still an issue but DP can handle it as well.

@martineyles

9 ай бұрын

HDMI's main advantage is in sound, which makes it useful for TVs and Home Cinema settings. In an office the display port is useful, but my gaming and media machine is using HDMI all the way.

@ThunderingRoar

9 ай бұрын

​@@martineylesDP can also carry sound

@martineyles

9 ай бұрын

@@ThunderingRoar Can DP carry Dolby Atmos and DTS X both to and from a display?

@Freddie1980

9 ай бұрын

@@martineyles good point and this is why I'm not against HDMI inclusion as people should have the choice.

The only caveat to the little latches is when a display manufacturer orients the connector incorrectly and you have to install the DP cable with the latch release button sandwiched between the back of the monitor. You’ll have to use a tool to depress the latch release if you want to get that cable off. Yes, it does happen but I’ll still take DP over HDMI any day.

@AbdullaBubshait

9 ай бұрын

I make sure to stock a bunch of cables without latches for that reason.

@faranocks

9 ай бұрын

@@AbdullaBubshait Agreed. I find the display port connector much more secure than the HDMI connector, even without the latches. The large rectangular shape has made tolerances tighter than it is with most HDMI connectors, and as a result a much securer fit. I've only ever been worried about an HDMI connection being unplugged.

@patfre

9 ай бұрын

Another bad thing is you need like 10 Tonne of force just to hold down the latch meanwhile you can’t even tell if you have pressed it down or not, so when you pull on the cable there’s a 50% chance you destroy the monitor and or the cable when you pull

@faranocks

9 ай бұрын

@@patfre That's just on cheaper cables from my experience.

@QoraxAudio

9 ай бұрын

Lol yes, those struggles of a PC nerd... life is hard.

I use DP with two monitors, as DP is required in my setup to get 165hz over 144Hz. The one huge pain and downside is that windows considers a monitor going to sleep in DP as a disconnection and re-connection when they come back. In contrast, HDMI monitors are "always on" in that regard. I use a utility called "MonitorKeeper" to keep window positions stable across re-connections but for whatever reason it doesn't always work like it used to.

@oienu

9 ай бұрын

My monitor have the feature optional, in the settings I can put Alwas On or Low Power, in the first I can shutdown the display and still will be listed on Windows, low power will disconnect the monitor.

@Damian-rp2iv

9 ай бұрын

that's the most anoying part of DP to me... how the hell this thing just cant tell the difference between no screen and a sleeping scree?? But on my side I've "fixed" the issue using a DP splitter. Somehow it make all my 3 screen wake and sleep at the same time, avoiding windows to mess with my windows. Also updating to win11 helped a bit as its way better at placing windows on the right monitor when it wake up.. Before I was also a long time user of MonitorKeeper

@itsmejak7888

9 ай бұрын

Why does it matter at all if a monitor takes an extra 3-5 seconds to wake up/go to sleep? Seems like an absolute non issue to me but maybe I'm not seeing how important those prescious 6-10 seconds per sleep cycle are

@Damian-rp2iv

9 ай бұрын

@@itsmejak7888 It matters when your OS (and win10 is one of them) will try to move open windows around at each screen change, but does not move them back at the right place... It would have been more obvious if you've tried to look at what's MonitorKeeper doing for example, instead of assuming people just cant wait for 5sec unlike superior being like you... Sry for the salt, I may have stored some during my years of using win10 and having it moving my windows around x)

@oienu

9 ай бұрын

@@itsmejak7888 I can find some problems on games when the screen are not same, by example, I have three E231 but one is vertical for code or documents, that is using DVI and the others is DP, one time I shutdown the monitors having the game open and then it went into the vertical and have a bug in the resolution XD was fun and I had to restar the game, but only change the settings to always on avoid the monitor lost connection and work fine.

FYI. If you're running a 10xx, 9xx & 7xx series gpu, you might need to update your gpu's *firmware* to get dp 1.4 to work. This update isn't included with drivers. This problem manifested when my PC boot looped and never started after I got New monitor. My valve index was causing the problem with the mismatch.

@Yehetto

9 ай бұрын

This is also true for 9xx and 745/750/750 Ti and Titan X both Maxwell and Pascal and finally Titan XP.

@mhammadalloush5104

9 ай бұрын

I found out the hard way when I finally bought a display that does support DP1.4 and wondered why I don't have video out until Linux loaded. Turns out the update is windows only which made me glad I keep a small windows install for times like this

@temporaer

9 ай бұрын

this explains why my DP never worked. it is a used card and i thought the previous owner destroyed them?

@niter43

9 ай бұрын

​​​@@temporaer at least on my 1070 it worked after OS was booted -- just as with commenter above. What didn't work is accessing (seeing) UEFI. Updating DP firmware fixed that. So you might try that, but if there's no picture at all within Windows, then probably it's broken (or maybe cable issue or monitor needs manual input selection?)

@MR-vj8dn

9 ай бұрын

You don’t upgrade hardware / DP that way 😂 You purchase new hardware with the right components from the start.

DP alt over type C also allows for full function of touch enabled portable monitors. I use it everyday with dex when im working from home as a secondary computing device mounted in front of my keyboard under my primary display. If i had to use this in hdmi mode it would require another mouse, or if connected to my pc, dealing with cursor transitions between a 34 ultrawide and a 13 inch 16:9. DP alt is also how the current crop of AR glasses work. I use it with dex and its just one cable for the whole setup, everything else is wireless.

@whistler_

7 ай бұрын

Can you give more details on your setup? I have an external monitor with HDMI & USB C input, an s21, and a laptop with only DP out, so I'm curious how I could do something similar 😄

One of the main reasons I prefer display port is the fact that I don't have to gamble if the cable is going to actually support the resolution/refresh rate I want to use. When you have a random pile of new and old HDMI cables it's really hard to tell which ones are using the newer standards and you probably end up with a black screen if happen to use the decade+ old cable to try to run a 4K display

@shanent5793

9 ай бұрын

There are five DP transmission speeds, and not every cable supports all of them, so the problem isn't exclusive to HDMI. Throw away those old cables

@mozzjones6943

9 ай бұрын

DP cables will always work no matter, It's just they differ in bandwidth capability (but much wider scales per cable unlike HDMI). If you get one that can't reach 8k 60hz for example (dp 1.4) it will just default back to whatever it's capability.. 4k 60hz (dp 1.1) and that's as far as you can take it.

@AbsurdAsparagus

9 ай бұрын

@@shanent5793or donate them, creating etrash is a shitty thing to do if you have the ability to not do it.

@oldfrend

9 ай бұрын

@@username_login_password that is horseshit. every monitor i've ever owned had both DP and HDMI ports. and if i went to microcenter and checked every monitor there, 95% would have both as well.

@electrothecat

9 ай бұрын

@@oldfrend that's bc they are newer. Older monitors, specifically old Dell, HP, Lenovo, even brands that normally don't make monitors (i found a couple of 90s Hitachi monitors at my work), only exclusively had either HDMI or DisplayPort, I have a Dell ST2310f and the only ports it has is VGA, DVI and HDMI. I have no clue of why, but maybe it's because the monitor controllers weren't capable of seeing more than 3 ports at a time? The point is, if u have a monitor made in between 2002 to 2012, it's most likely gonna have one of the modern digital standards, depending on the brand and how cheap it is, and the year of course.

One thing that's neat about displayport is that if you look at the pinout, there are 8 wires for transmitting video signal, whereas HDMI has 6. Less shielding is needed, assuming an identical conductor gauge, for an equivalent signal over HDMI because there's less bandwidth per wire, meaning that you can have a more interference-resistant, lower frequency signal.

@null-nl5su

9 ай бұрын

That's not true at all. HDMI 2.0 is the last version to use 6 wires for data, and even then it doesn't need more shielding, because it transmits 6 Gbps per twisted pair while DP transmits 8.1. HDMI 2.1 uses 8 wires just as DP, and drives them at 12 Gbps, while DP 2.0 drives them at either 10, 13.5 or 20 Gbps.

@rich1051414

9 ай бұрын

It's not really the number of data lines, but rather the way HDMI is designed. Too much bloat in the standard, limiting the one thing it's supposed to do, in favor of DRM features.

@Groovewonder2

9 ай бұрын

@@null-nl5su pretty sure I learned that through some LMG content (maybe a different techquickie?) so it sounds like they need to do an update.

If the 3 big names in TV market added a display port by default on all their product, HDMI would be done in 5 years, just the time it take for the new console gen to arrive and for every media player manufacturer to add a DP too

@MrGamelover23

9 ай бұрын

It will never happen because HDMI has DRM. DisplayPort doesn't have DRM. Therefore, DisplayPort is the inferior port as far as corporations are concerned.

@draconk

9 ай бұрын

@@MrGamelover23At this day an age DRM on connectors is like wet tissue, easy to spoof, also useless since all content can be streamed through a PC either way and DRM there is 100% useless, its only useful for physical media and almost no one buys or uses it.

@Alice.59

9 ай бұрын

@@MrGamelover23 why Tv manufacturers would care about DRM ? ok maybe sony since they also have a foot in the cinema market but LG and samsung, why should they care ?

@crestofhonor2349

9 ай бұрын

@@Alice.59 Because major manufacturers want DRM. It's the whole reason why component was dropped from Blu Ray players. They want DRM so you don't potentially do something they don't want you to do. DisplayPort has no DRM so it would likely just become another port on a TV just like VGA and Component were on HDMI equipped TVs

@MrGamelover23

9 ай бұрын

@@Alice.59 If you're connecting the game console, it's using HDMI. If you're watching a DVD or a Blu-ray, it would use HDMI. Why? Copyright and DRM. You use what the equipment uses.

Edit: Apparently DisplayPort supports HDCP. I'm at a loss, then. For 6, that's actually a divisive one. I'm fine with it since it reminds me of the old screw fixtures for VGA and DVI connectors so I'm already familiar with needing to undo some kind of retention mechanism, but I've seen plenty of people that HATE those latches and prefer to only buy DisplayPort cables that lack them. There is one single reason that HDMI is more widespread; HDCP encryption. It pleases the entertainment industry that is disproportionately terrified of piracy to the point where they can end up making things inconvenient for the legitimate customer. So of course they'll prefer the standard that lets them lock things down that little bit more. It generally isn't a major hurdle for the consumer any more (Occasionally the HDCP handshake breaks and you need to reset the devices connected together to get it to work properly.), but I still remember how the PS3's HDMI output even applied HDCP over gameplay. This makes it impossible to capture gameplay off of it over HDMI without something that can strip out the HDCP protection; either that or you need some method of capturing a component video out instead.

@fernandocasillasjr

9 ай бұрын

Beware of HDMI splitters. Some of these have a bug that strips the HDCP (copy protection).

@doommaker4000

9 ай бұрын

​@@fernandocasillasjroh no

@Psychx_

9 ай бұрын

HDCP is being used with DP just fine.

@AltonV

9 ай бұрын

DP also supports HDCP

@johnsnow1749

9 ай бұрын

Why would 6 be divisive. You have the option to have it or not. Everyone wins.

My entire workplace (~2k people) is on DP now. Having switched from a desktop to a laptop+dock solution (to support WFH and people going on work trips) we found we had to replace a large number of old monitors using HDMI since the combination of docks outputting DP, KVM, and a HDMI adapter to a old monitor caused a ton of video issues (sometimes even without a KVM!)

It’s absurd on flagship graphics cards and monitors that we don’t have display port 2.1 uhbr 80. I mean if it doesn’t cost any royalties and it’s on their top end products, it makes no sense why it’s not there.

@Michallote

9 ай бұрын

Well I have RTX 3060 and it has 3 DP 2.1 sockets while only a single HDMI, what graphics cards are you talking about?

@MrMOGHammer

9 ай бұрын

@@Michallote RTX 3060 only have 3 x DP 1.4a, and 1 x HDMI 2.1. You mixed them up

As someone with a moving train computer case that would be setup at events like PAX, DisplayPort was a must. Tried HDMI once when our DisplayPort cable had issues from years of movement, and never again -- it kept falling out.

The latches are one of the small but significant reasons why DP is for computers and office settings, and HDMI caught on so well in consumer electronics. Most end users would break the cable trying to pry it out of their television, not understanding the latch.

Fun fact: DP has always been more capable since it was always meant for computers (and so prioritized bandwidth) unlike HDMI which was originally only meant for TVs

I was planning to buy an HDMI cable but since you guys are so good at timing I might keep my money. Thank you so much for all the great work that you do!

@LeonLionHeart

9 ай бұрын

just remember, audio does not pass through DisplayPort.

@hypershadow5g

9 ай бұрын

@@LeonLionHeart Yes it does. you're thinking of DVI.

@Mik3_F

9 ай бұрын

@@LeonLionHeart ?

@smthng

9 ай бұрын

@@LeonLionHeart I'm literally listening to the video through my monitor speakers lmao

9 ай бұрын

@@hypershadow5gthere are DVIs with audio pins tho

Edp? He's back?

Who would've ever thought I'd ever have to be thankful to edp for anything

@camwha5904

9 ай бұрын

Was looking for the other person that made that connection!

One issue I have had with display ports is that some display manufacturers do not leave enough clearance next to the connector. This makes it difficult to remove. And I have had the occasional connector end of the cable fall apart. Have never had that with HDMI.

The only thing I find lacking from displayport is that we don't really have any displayport capture cards on the market.

@draconk

9 ай бұрын

At least you can always use a displayport to hdmi cable to connect to a capture card and set up that fake monitor as a duplicate of your main and it should work fine

@TalesOfWar

9 ай бұрын

That's actually a good point, I never thought about that!

It sucks that most open techs/standards are not the dominant ones in the market especially in rare cases like this where the open option is actually the "better" one.

The problem with eDP is the lack of manufacturers following a standard! It seems like every single eDP connection uses a random non-standardized pinout.

@CuteistFox

9 ай бұрын

There is just one eDP but a lot of simalar ones also using DP

@internetaddict2850

9 ай бұрын

I cant hear edp the same again help

Latches matter, especially if you're doing a more professional install, or running cables to places that are harder to reach. When there's latches, you can trust that you at least plugged it in and it will stay plugged in, reducing troubleshooting effort

Also DP stands for another fun combination which can't be said about HDMI

@Nickayz2

9 ай бұрын

🤣👌✌

@Killer1986Chris

9 ай бұрын

Glad that I wasn't the only one thinking it.

@MrMOGHammer

9 ай бұрын

SOmeone will find something, dont worry. Already stirring some ideas on fun acronyms for HDMI,

DP++ can also output to a DVI Single Link connection with cheap passive adapters. This is useful when using old monitors that do not have HDMI nor DP. Daisy Chaing is a very nice feature, wich is present on too few monitors.

@glebglub

9 ай бұрын

iirc the reverse is true too, you just don't get audio obviously

@timathypotato8034

9 ай бұрын

maybe its just the cheap adapters I have, but everytime I reboot I have unplug and plug in my dp to dvi adapters in order to get output

@Heffen89

9 ай бұрын

@@timathypotato8034 I have many DP-DVI adapters distributed among many PCs. None of them showed that behavior.

@glebglub

9 ай бұрын

​@@timathypotato8034 you might be able to update the firmware of the adapter if you're lucky. does turning the monitor off/on or swapping input source to and fro not do it? or turning off the monitor's power saving mode?

@itsmejak7888

9 ай бұрын

HDMI to DVI is literally just as easy though

I built a SFF gaming PC for my living room with an RTX A2000 which has only miniDP, and considering I only have HDMI in the living room, the DP++ stuff is huge. I was able to simply buy a miniDP to HDMI cable, and everything works great. Also, the latching stuff is good if you rotate your monitor a lot (though the power connector can still get loose).

Really wish it were more common. I'm unable to use freesync on my display (a 120hz 55" qled) because it only has HDMI and my 1080ti only supports it via DP. I believe HDMI is also much more fragile, I've had HDMI connectors just break off while plugged in with little to no accidental force.

Here's a way it's way worse: A lot of monitors using DP get disconnected from the computer when the monitor goes to sleep. With one monitor and on the desktop that's not usually a problem but with multiple monitors and/or with a game open it causes a lot of issues. I still prefer DP over HDMI but this has caused me some frustration and reviewers don't usually test for this. It is down to the implementation of the sleep feature so it's the manufacturers fault but I've seen too many monitors with this issue

@timramich

9 ай бұрын

That used to happen to me a few years ago and then there was an update for Windows that fixed it.

@GreenCinco12Official

9 ай бұрын

@@timramich running the latest version of windows I can say: no it's not fixed.

@orangecat1596

9 ай бұрын

@@GreenCinco12Officialfor you it’s not fixed yeah but for many others it’s fixed or not even an issue lol

@nateholden7598

9 ай бұрын

My computer only sleeps when I tell it to. Which is rare as it's usually running. And it never sleeps on it's own.

@kendokaaa

9 ай бұрын

@@timramich It seems to depend on the implementation of DP in the monitor but it's definitely still a problem with some monitors. I have two that have this issue bu the third doesn't

Funny how some TVs have an "tech use only" port. But when you remove the plastic plug, there's a displayport plug! Also, you can get a displayport to hdmi cable that will allow 4k@60fps. Grest when used on my GTX 760 2gb card to display content that it would only give you 4k@30fps otherwise...

Finding Daisychaining monitors for a reasonable price is surprisingly difficult. But it is the only option for an easy KVM switch layout.

I was thinking of switching from HDMI to DP for my gaming monitor for a long time, this video does it, Thanks LMG

3:00 MacOS users beware, Apple has not added support for MST since its addition to DisplayPort 1.2 in 2010. The hardware supports it (a BootCamp install will work OK with MST), but Apple refuses to add support for this standard feature because they want you to use Thunderbolt Display configurations. This came as a nasty surprise when I switched to macOS and suddenly my multi-monitor setup was useless.

I switched exclusively to Displayport for connecting my gaming PC to my monitor, and I would honestly never go back to HDMI, save for hooking up a PS3 or other system that requires HDMI. Most of the time DP is faster than HDMI on the latest version. Still carries the same types of signals as well(various HDR formats, high refresh rates, VRR, etc).

I think the easy DP→HDMI conversion is why I have a nicely working USB-C→HTMI cable. Plug it into a DP-capable USB-C port on one end and into an HDMI port on the other and boom, you have a video signal on-screen.

I'm from a time when we had to tune our TV into the coax signal from our Computer. Im still stoked about VGA, and DVI changed my life!

So about billet labs...in your response you did not address the prototype allegations...let’s gooooo

Oh man I love EDP

I actually hate those latches on the DP cables. I use DP when possible because it's just better, but I can appreciate how smooth it is to plug in and out a HDMI, as well as finding the correct orientation (DP is kinda hard to spot in tight spaces, having only one angled corner).

4:34: What kind of logic is that?? When I walk around with my laptop that's exactly when I *don't* want latches. Because if I walk to the point where the cable isn't long enough anymore, I want it to unplug the cable rather than yanking the laptop out of my hands.

I like display port only for the latch. I hate that it doesn't have features like ARC, and the audio support isn't as big as for hdmi.

@fabzter

9 ай бұрын

u use hdmi for audio? well that's also suboptimal

@user-xh3nm8oe2l

9 ай бұрын

​@@fabzterI mean, it's very useful in some cases, for example, game consoles that output sound directly to TV. I myself use HDMI audio output because my headphones are mixing up with gamepad cable if I connect them both to front panel.

@RickMyBalls

9 ай бұрын

@@fabzter hdmi is amazing for audio, what you on about?

@thepopeofkeke

9 ай бұрын

DISPLAY cable

Also, Gsync has a ton of compatibility issues with HDMI, while DP doesn't. So Nvidia users are probably better off using DP instead of HDMI

Hmm. My recent adventures in UHD say kinda. Biggest issue with DP cables is they are chonky as hell for 4k 60hz+ and hard to route if you have a lot of devices. also the whole usb-c source to DP monitor cable thing is a minefield at high data rates - you have to keep the cables short, and even then "sync dropout" issues seem to happen from time to time. Still a fan though, overall, and you do get digital audio too !

This is super interesting. I wasn't even familiar with DP until now that I'm looking into getting one of those refurbished SFF computers from Amazon. They all come with DP except a few that also have one HDMI port. At first I thought it was because it's cheaper, but I guess it's just better overall (being these mostly business-intended machines).

get EDP out of my laptop, there's no cupcakes in there...

@rayquisefowler3992

9 ай бұрын

Lmao i was waiting for someone to say that

0:18 I've had minor problems with this type of connectors

@Roblafo

9 ай бұрын

Lol

@IlIllllIIlIllIlllIIIII

9 ай бұрын

😂 when I heard that I went scrolling trough the comments

I had actually never even heard of display port until I took an It job 2 years ago. Now it's my go to. I didn't actually know about the display port>hdmi functionality, but figured out it works through trial and error. Same way I figured out hdmi>display port doesn't generally work. The idea of display port daisy chaining is new to me, but definitely something I'll be watching for with future monitor purchases.

How about variable refresh rate? -> G-sync and Freesync? - they usually only work with DP.

@oldtimer666

21 күн бұрын

Lol bro im running a hdmi cable with gsync on

Nice information

I've long thought of the two standards were invented to troll us, especially in the post USB-C world. There's some weird curse on me, especially at work, in that if I have a DP cable, all the monitors/laptops I find will be HDMI only, and vice versa. If I promise to always mess up plugging in USB cables at least twice, can we please just have a single connector!

My only pet peeve with DP is that it disconnects if the monitor is turned off or put in stand by, or sometimes even if you just change the input source, HDMI doesnt, I had my fair share of headaches because of that, a lot of bluescreens as well

@chipsnfishnl

9 ай бұрын

We didnt have bluescreens, but it was hard to get the monitors detected again at full scale(2K), needing a reboot.

@bichela

8 ай бұрын

Display port allows me to switch my dual monitor setup to single monitor. When turning second monitor off it moves everything to monitor 1 on my macs automatically. When I turn the second monitor on it automatically switches to duel display mode

I just found this channel, new fav ltt channel for quick updates on my knowledge or explanation for my less pc-inclined friends Edit - I had no idea that there was display port daisy chaining. This may have just revolutionized my setup...

Whenever a boss asks you "please don't discuss your pay", it is an immediate sign that favoritism is present as well as unequal wages. Cutting corners that are already cut, so unprofessional.

A lot of companies use docks that can send HDMI and audio out to the peripherals and also send power and ethernet to laptops. I'd love to know some of the best work laptops made just for this setup.

@GreenCinco12Official

9 ай бұрын

everything with a usb-c (better thunderbolt 4). There is no "best laptop" for this.

@niter43

9 ай бұрын

​@@GreenCinco12Officialwell, not everything, you'd want at least ensure that that Type-C supports DP Alt mode. And capable of charging, if that's what you want. Even if it does at least for gaming laptops it's worth researching wether that charging can actually bypass battery and run on "AC", once it's charged (e.g. Zephyrus G14 can't -- it'll run off battery till it drops few % below full and recharge again, in endless battery-wearing cycle)

@TalesOfWar

9 ай бұрын

@@niter43 The only way you can ensure it supports all the things is to have something with Thunderbolt 4, given how fragmented and flakey the support of well... any aspect of the standard can be with USB right now.

Running displayport since my radeon HD5770 didn't have 3 onboard clock generators so I had to buy active DP to DVI adapter to connect 3 monitors. I love them but I had some super weird issues, like my motherboard receiving enough power over the displayport through the PCI-E slot to keep the pc from properly shutting down (even with the PSU disconnected) and I think I need to flash the firmware on a 10-series GTX to get DP 1.4a with proper 4k120hz without chroma key subsampling. With HDMI you plug it in and it works or not but the cables are barely secured.

running a DP to DVI-D Cable here... just wires and pins, nothing more. really great for using older monitors without hdmi (or dp) on newer hardware. most GPU's only provide one DVI port, if any... but with hdmi to dvi and dp to dvi you can go nuts with displays :) (and i am speaking about older 60Hz lcd's) no need to throw those away

Linus: "My company is valued at $100 million." Also Linus: "I can't afford to spend $500 to retest."

@Wylie288

9 ай бұрын

Both are possible? 99% of net worth for nearly every human and entity isn't money they have. Its money they already spent and no longer have. Unless they literally sell everything they own.

@ARandomInternetUser08

9 ай бұрын

You don't know how the world works apparently. "Worth" isn't "money you have".

@capofantasma97

9 ай бұрын

Company value vs Liquidity vs Budget per project

Would be interesting to see testing if active DP to HDMI adapter causes latency increase. If so, would be another win for using DP over HDMI

The latches are kinda annoying since if you want to unplug it, you need to press it to remove the cable. If not you might damage the port of you don't do it right.

Personally I think they both have a place. While niche, anyone who wants to bitstream audio to their receiver, display port won't help. Yes it can push bitstream but if you convert DP to HDMI it will convert on PC to LPCM before sending. There may be a solution now but since the 20 series I haven't been able to do it without HDMI, plus LG OLED doesn't have DP.

I actually hate the latch on the DP connectors. I thought had had great grip strength, but I never know if I'm pressing hard enough to pull the plug or not. Granted, since I only use it with my PC, I've disconnected the cables maybe 5 times between moves.

@fred_2021

9 ай бұрын

Ditto that pressure thing. IMO a sliding mechanism would be better. Better yet, omit it - I don't see the need, as I've had several USB cables attached for a couple of years with np.

@nothing.mp3

9 ай бұрын

You can buy DP cables without the little latch on them, I only use the non latching versions as it's one less piece that can break

I have found the Displayport latch to be a flaw in some cases. When assisting some users, I have found the latch to damage the port and or the cable itself on some user's devices. I rather the cable just fall out than hang on and damage the port and or cable.

@uis246

9 ай бұрын

Latch is optional

@antoniohagopian213

9 ай бұрын

It can tear away a port if it's yanked hard enough assuming the latch doesn't break away (but it will damage the port anyways)

@shanent5793

9 ай бұрын

It should only be used if you're on a vehicle or the display is frequently repositioned. The cables should be secured in a way that isn't going to stress the connections, the latch is only to keep the cable from wiggling out due to oscillations

@zyeborm

9 ай бұрын

​@@uis246think the suggestion is it should be opt in rather than opt out if you know what I mean

@0106johnny

9 ай бұрын

@@zyebormIt is opt-in. The manufacturer has to put it on the cable, it doesn't just materialize out of thin air

USB-C does support in spades. We use Dell WD19's docks and even with a VGA to DP adapter for older monitors that do not have DP or HDMI ports, it works great.

Thank you James. Very informative and not annoying in any way.

0:19 edp445

The best thing about DP is actually having a locking connector. Working in AV and not having to worry about it getting pulled out.

@BrianG61UK

9 ай бұрын

You prefer to have actual physical damage that costs money to fix if someone trips on the cable? ;-)

@darkopz

9 ай бұрын

Yeah. I thought we learned our lesson with having these wires locked into expensive equipment.

@jarenpocopio6033

9 ай бұрын

Until you have to pull them out of a monitor

@johnschroeder3072

9 ай бұрын

@@jarenpocopio6033 you just have to push, squeeze then pull. I've just done it half a dozen times this week. It's usually pretty easy.

@johnschroeder3072

9 ай бұрын

@@BrianG61UK That is better than stopping a show.

You had me at no royalties. Paying royalties to use a standardization is bad for everyone except the company who owns the patent.

@TalesOfWar

9 ай бұрын

In theory it's fine, if they use the money to keep improving things, but the rate of improvement seems a bit lack lustre so it's just become a rent seeking thing.

Good Video! Most of that I did not know and will find useful. One thing I don't like is the hooks. I have had several customers damage connectors by pulling without pressing the button. Now I grind off the hooks before i deliver the cable.

Now...is this information accurate? :P

why don't we have a universal standard for everything.

Your older Nvidia cards may be able to make use of G-Sync Compatibility (RTX 2000 and lower) when using DisplayPort. This is especially useful to know for gaming laptops because most often, one of the USB-C ports is "DisplayPort over USB-C". So even if your laptop is not G-Sync certified (meaning that the built-in screen has no G-Sync) your external monitor CAN use G-Sync.

In my experience fewer compatibility problems are also a plus.

All good reasons why I prefer Display Port and I would recommend it, however, latches are more of a downside in my opinion. I get that it's more secure, but I never really had an HDMI disconnected by accident, and latches make it harder to unplug the cable. In all fairness, I rarely disconnect my Display Port, but I just thought it was funny you see it as a plus when it's rather annoying to me.

@antoniohagopian213

9 ай бұрын

If the cable gets pulled it will destroy everything with it

@boltinabottle6307

9 ай бұрын

I just had to replace a 75" patient display board in an ICU because the stick PC's HDMI kept sliding out. If it were on DP, this would have been a non-issue. I think it really depends on use-case scenario. IT departments prefer DP because it has the lock. Nothing worse than getting a ticket because the connector is loose (actually, getting a ticket because the last tech didn't screw in the VGA is worse).

@billwall267

9 ай бұрын

then buy a cable without a latch

@agustinromerolopez3381

9 ай бұрын

@@billwall267 I would but as I said before, it's a really small inconvenience, not worth enough to do so, specially because I've never bought one, they just came with the monitors I buy

It depends on the monitor and GPU you have. With my monitor and GPU combo my options are HDMI 2.1 and DP 1.4. And since I'm using a 240hz 1440p HDR 10 bit OLED, HDMI makes more sense.

@W1Z_38

8 ай бұрын

^this and especially if you’re just using a single connection. I’ve tested both hdmi 2.1 and DP 1.4 with my lg 27” oled with my 3080 and hdmi performs better.

Should have have done 2 ads and said “We have 2 more reasons DP is better”

im sure you guys may have an idea. Im on PC and have displayport connected. With HDR on. But whenever im on a game like Destiny 2, and someone joins my xbox party chat and a xbox notification pops up, my screen blacks out, then looks super blurry, then blacks out, then goes back to HDR. Or when im on Warframe, by random chance (Only happens twice at most) will black out my screen, put me back to my windows home screen, and id have to click back on my Warframe tab to get back into the game, and then itll say HDR. How do i make it stop doing that? I want to keep HDR on because it looks really good on the games i play and the quality on the videos i watch.

EmbeddedDisplayPort445?????

@WhateverWhenever888

9 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

why is it called EDP bruhhh

@Omegabird113

9 ай бұрын

Embedded Display Port abbreviates to EDP

@Pickelhaube808

9 ай бұрын

eDP 4.4.5

One thing i don't like about DP is that when i turn off my monitors it is no longer detected and moves all open apps to the main desktop, really annoying when your run a multiple screen setup that has to be on 24/7. None of the "fixes" i found work either.

@MrMOGHammer

9 ай бұрын

well that does it no matter which cable you use, that is the OS resetting your extended desktop to the live monitors. Has nothing to do with DP.

What you showed in the laptop is not eDP but a LVDS cable. In fact, the eDP that is in laptops is just virtual (as traces on the motherboard connecting some chips).

@calebokyere687

9 ай бұрын

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@calebokyere687

9 ай бұрын

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Honestly my experience with DP was really bad. Constantly cut off from the slightest nudge. Switched to HDMI sense then. Probably just a cable issue, but i have like 50 hdmi cables laying around, so I don’t have a reason to swap back.

Gee I wonder how many mistakes riddle this video lmao

great video, now do one on DP cables with their version spec above 1.4 of lengths over 16 feet and which manutfacturer does it best.

At an old job about 8 years ago now I got a new monitor.. a really nice 24” Dell and it had DP.. I had never used it so I bought a cable too since the video card had a DP connection. I loved everything about it. That monitor ran so well and was pretty amazing and I really liked the satisfying and durable connection on both ends. Never had any flicker issues and always looked sharp. Lot of that was the display but yeah. HDMI 2.1 and arc are great but don’t seem to be the same quality.. or maybe consistency is the better word. Why isn’t DP on like fire sticks and gaming systems??

Best one is type C display port

Have to buy those prongless cables though, I've had a few dp cables you have to be Hercules to unlock...

Really hope to see DP implemented in some semi-professional video devices - for example, personal cine-cams, ENG camcorders, webstreaming switchers, LED display wall processors... It's such a perfect protocol to fill the gap between HDMI/DVI and SDI.

I noticed that dp cables are not great if they are longer than 3 meters, i got a 5meter one and it acts funky when there is some random interference or something nearby

I feel like I might see the death of displayport before I ever get to use one though.. 🙇‍♀It's been over a decade and I've still never seen a displayport _setup_ in the wild either. I never got to use firewire either and that looked awesome too. -- I'll say though: Monitors that charge the laptop are great, especially when paired with a GaN mini charger because it saves sooo much space in a bag. I used an AOPEN FireLegend monitor for work that came with its own 65watt USB-C brick and yeah.. that monitor could PD-fastcharge the thinkpads and legions I had to use at work.

@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg

9 ай бұрын

display port is hugely popular in professional/business environments, and we all know how long it takes for those to change from a standard to another.

@boltinabottle6307

9 ай бұрын

@@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg Yeah, DP is the standard in enterprise environments (I work Desktop support II in a hospital). It's either VGA or DP, and anytime I see a DP-VGA converter being used, I swap it out if the monitor can support DP. VGA looks awful by comparison.

@RickMyBalls

9 ай бұрын

You're living in a weird world if you've never seen displayport. it's super common...

@Hansengineering

9 ай бұрын

Fukkin... what? I've junked displays that are just too low res to bother with that had DP. Graphics cards that can't run games past 2016 had DP.

@0106johnny

9 ай бұрын

Lmao, DP is the more popular standard when it comes to PC hardware.

The main reason I have a DP cable is because a DP cable for me was 50 pence (80 cents), whereas an equal length HDMI cable was gonna run me £18 ($22.85 USD). How HDMI is that expensive I have no idea.

@samsonwu5753

9 ай бұрын

maybe because if you asked 100 people randomly whats display port was, most wouldnt have a clue, whereas with HDMI, its the cable their TV uses. most would also answer since they never heard of DP, HDMI must be better, hence why shops will charge more for a better cable. (most viewers here should know more expensive doesnt always equal better)

@FlyboyHelosim

9 ай бұрын

Dude, where the hell do you live and shop? LOL

Probably the term 'Display' port was poorly named, as it suggests 'display only,' despite its actual capability to support both audio and video.

The locking connector reminds me of the way some parallel/printer port cables would have 2 screws that could be tightened to lock the cable to the parallel port. Having a single button to release a locked cable is significantly less cumbersome than fiddling with screws.

Well, DP drawbacks that make HDMI about 10x more practical for daily use: 1. Even a grandma knows and can plug in an HDMI cable. You mention “DisplayPort” and the only people that recognize that are PC gamers and IT guys. 2. Active/passive/miniDP/eDP/daisychaining/versioning (that even monitors have to have options to change between) all make compatibility and understanding+having the right cable with the right interface and specs, make DP the ‘nerd knob’ over-complex standard. 3. Those stupid prongs on the full-size DP are almost as bad as the screws on VGA/DVI used to be. But yeah technically, DP is the de-facto superior standard for PC-to-Monitor interfacing. If you want 240hz 4k+ HDR and power+data+video-over-USBC, you go DP. If you do anything on a TV, or a non-computer, DP becomes the worst standard out there- the new DVI or USB 3-pre-C days nightmare.

@Argedis

9 ай бұрын

It's only good for video. If you care about audio you need HDMI. There is no high end audio receiver that even has display port support. I see DP as just a 'video' cable, that's it. HDMI does it all, they even made HDMI w/ Ethernet.

@skullingtonturtle8080

9 ай бұрын

@@Argedis I mean I fully agree that “HDMI does it all”, but even the stupid name “DisplayPort” is misleading because it does in fact, carry audio too. Mark one more on the “why DP sucks” board because of how misleading the name itself is. It carries high-end multi-channel audio same as HDMI, but why would anyone assume that? It makes me hate DP even more.

@Argedis

9 ай бұрын

@@skullingtonturtle8080 Display Port 'can' carry audio but since there's no strict standards like HDMI it would be a compatability nightmare. Also like I said there's basically no HiFi support anyway. No high end audio receiver has display port.

@0106johnny

9 ай бұрын

HDMI is far more feature-split than DP. You never know which cable supports what and it's usually even harder to find out what the device in question supports.

I prefer display port, but i admit i would happily pay an extra $10 to add an hdmi port to cover the license and hardware. Flexibility is good.

Daisy chain is cool, but I would talk about how easy it is to use the same tech to use DP splitter. No need for fancy monitor as you can even just use HDMI one, and with a simple dongle you can plug easily 3 monitor on just one DP port. Especially cool when you use a TB dock as you wont need to search for one with lot of video output

I sometimes wanna just open monitors cuz I know that more than enough times, the hdmi port is actually a display port but given to different connector & set us as hdmi mode of display-port++.