Hi all. This episode was late (and less animated) than usual because Final Cut Pro decided it wanted to die and so I had to delete all of my current ongoing projects (yay!). Next week's episodes will be: 'Did Appeasement work?' and 'How did Ethiopia stay independent during the Scramble for Africa?'.

@statson2221

5 жыл бұрын

Please make video about battle under Grunwald and First Toruń peace

@milanskrbic5188

5 жыл бұрын

Where’s orthodox video?

@AllahCat7889

5 жыл бұрын

nice

@garrettwhillwick

5 жыл бұрын

Hm, neat.

@franciscomm7675

5 жыл бұрын

Could you end the british series?

California? More like Caliph-ornia.

@NRooster

4 жыл бұрын

-_-

@basedandcringepoliticalcat4707

4 жыл бұрын

Ironic how California means Land of the Caliphs.

@antiochusiiithegreat7721

4 жыл бұрын

@@basedandcringepoliticalcat4707 No that's a popular misconception. It was named by the Spanish Conquistadors after a mythical paradise Island called califia that was written about in a Spanish romance which was popular at the time.

@koatam

4 жыл бұрын

@@antiochusiiithegreat7721 Yeah, they originally thought California was an island. If you discovered the California peninsula first, then you might think that.

@vinkhe861

4 жыл бұрын

@@koatam Baja California? I guess that would seem like an island if you hadn't discovered the northern areas connecting it.

*reads title* *opens EU4* time to change history again

@alexander1055

5 жыл бұрын

Introducing: Turkish Mexicans

@richardalex4516

5 жыл бұрын

The horror... The horror...

@ivanf.482

5 жыл бұрын

Ahahhaahahahahahah

@baron_xd4633

5 жыл бұрын

@@alexander1055 lmaooo

@sanadedixeptar5214

5 жыл бұрын

Let me just make ottoman texas so i can shout Allahu yeehaw at home

So the Ottomans were Blockbuster And Spain was Netflix

@zxera9702

4 жыл бұрын

Wrong comparisn.Ottomans outlasted Spain and their "empire".

@jeanbethencourt1506

4 жыл бұрын

@@zxera9702 surviving as a vassal isn't really "outlasting". For example, during most the 1900's Britain has been a vassal to the US. Officially they had an empire until HK was handed over but in practice they were a US satellite.

@zxera9702

4 жыл бұрын

@@jeanbethencourt1506 Ottomans weren't vassals tho but they were very weak towards the end.

@SousukeAizen421

4 жыл бұрын

@@zxera9702 ottomans are british vassal, the british only kept them alive to halt Russian Domination on the warm seas and to protect their indian trade routes and colonies there, british confinticate the most richest and vital lands are cyprus and egypt while the worthless rest are used as a buffer zones agains russians(im talking about anatolian and constatinople, which is a worthless city by that time)

@zxera9702

4 жыл бұрын

@@SousukeAizen421 No lol ottomans weren't a vassal,do you even know what a vassal is?

Chile: coasts are the best Ottoman empire: *I know*

@elemparador

2 жыл бұрын

And Roma cuz Roma's and Ottoman's borders are similar

@arolemaprarath6615

2 жыл бұрын

@@elemparador Ottoman Empire is a failed imitation of Byzantine Greek Empire. Btw, Byzantines lasted for 1,000 years, longer than most empire in the world.

@elemparador

2 жыл бұрын

@@arolemaprarath6615 failed? I wouldn't say failed for 600 years. They fought against crusaders if they were Christian they may even establish The Roman Empire.

@arolemaprarath6615

2 жыл бұрын

@@elemparador Ottoman Empire was blessed by their geography. No nearby powers were strong enough to break into their geographic barrier but believe me, if France or Britain were next door of the Ottomans, that failed Byzantine-like empire wont last for 300 or even 200 years. Most likely to exist around 100 years or less.

@aybaradlg9191

2 жыл бұрын

@@arolemaprarath6615 You know it is harder to keep an Empire alive in modern times? In Byzantine case, approximately for one thousand years what did the world gain both by technologically and culturally? I am not trying to defend the Ottoman Empire but Ottoman Empire was founded in 1299. It was founded in middle age time and one way or another endure till the 20th century until the year 1922 to be precise. It is way harder with colonial and strong empires like Britain, France, Spain, Portugal, Germany, Russia etc. There was a lot of enemies for the Ottomans. The world was rapidly improving. Ottoman Empire had witnessed the radical changes of military technology. They had witnessed the revolutional cultural changes like French Revolution and Renaissance. 622 years does not seem like a failure to me actually. And when i think about the Byzantines, most of their lifetime was in constant decline, rapidly losing lands and reputation to both Seljuk Turks and Arabs (Muslims) and European monarchs (Christians). I'd like to remind you the Latin Invasion in the beginning of 13th century way before their complete annexation by the Ottoman Empire in 1453 precisely 250 years ago. After the beginning of 18th century Ottoman Empire also couldnt hold on against the modern European Empires, especially after the 1789 corruption and downfall of the Ottomans increased. But again i must remind you, it is way easier to keep a state alive in old times when the value of 50 years technology had been invented in 500 years time.

Becouse they didn't pick colonization ideas.

@Miquelalalaa

5 жыл бұрын

No? Explain their massive empire then...

@yannick4895

5 жыл бұрын

@@Miquelalalaa expansionist

@yarpen26

5 жыл бұрын

@The Flying Dutchman Technically, there is zero difference, it's just that we've gotten used to thinking that if there is at least a somewhat big body of water between the occupying power and the occupied, then it's something different from a regular subjugated territory. If the Ural were a sea rather than a mountain range, we would see Siberia as Russia's colony either.

@tareke586

5 жыл бұрын

yarpen26 war between equals - conquest War between Stone Age and modern people - colonization

@unknowndane4754

5 жыл бұрын

@@yarpen26 I think op was making a eu4 reference where you unluck idea groups and only exploration and expansion gives you a "colonist" which is needed for taking colonizing the Americas

*laughs in Ottoman Alaska*

@degistirmelutfen

5 жыл бұрын

*laughs in United States Of Ottomans*

@aqimjulayhi8798

4 жыл бұрын

Eskimottoman

@nytrex_yt7417

4 жыл бұрын

**laughs in ottoman mexico**

@nytrex_yt7417

4 жыл бұрын

Kingdom Of Yugoslavia Mapping **laughs in ottoman california**

@anthonyc4138

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ahrev1356 hahahahha

Oh pls. Ottomans are already so powerfull i can't even imagine them with American colonies in Eu4 Edit: Not anymore. Thx to paradox, they can't even expand into Aq qoyunlu now

@Flash4ML

4 жыл бұрын

I knew as soon as I clicked this video that there would be Eu4 all over the comments lol

@eb1247

4 жыл бұрын

Were powerful...

@baranjan6969

4 жыл бұрын

If they werent thst powerful why arent they dead when other powerful countries teamed against them even when thry werent working on military And they were against people who used war crimes?

@Flash4ML

4 жыл бұрын

baran jan what are you trying to say? I don’t understand

@firehawk8521

4 жыл бұрын

What's EU4

Imagine if they'd settled Cuba first and it was just Island Turkey.

@themaximum97

3 жыл бұрын

That would have been fun to watch. A majority Muslim country right at the US’s doorstep spreading their influence all throughout Central America and the Caribbean.

@ddc2957

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah there aren’t enough people in the world holding up a child molester as their idol IMO.

@Meftu

3 жыл бұрын

Muslim communists? O boy.

@augustuzmoon3814

2 жыл бұрын

@@Meftu OH YES!!!

@filmmaniacgaming

2 жыл бұрын

@@Meftu The turkic countries were Muslim and communist the best example is Kazakhstan

They colonized Australia! Haven’t you played EU4?

@YuiFunami

5 жыл бұрын

mamluks tend to do that way too much in my games

@Vikanjr

5 жыл бұрын

Yui Funami yeah, depends on how long they survive.

@EmpireTVDragon

5 жыл бұрын

It is usually the Portuguese for me

@YuiFunami

5 жыл бұрын

if ottos expand too slowly and mamluks eats up arabia they can beat ottos sometimes

@EmpireTVDragon

5 жыл бұрын

@@YuiFunami But I usually colonize anyways, no matter what country I play as. Even as Russia or Ottomans. Its good to get some extra gold by colonising Mexico, or have some extra colonises with almost little to no effort. Which could help you in war later.

Ottoman Sultan: We just wanted europeans to move to new world so we can take Europe for ourselves

@yepyeniceri

4 жыл бұрын

We dont care europe too much even they tried to colonize other countries because their lands dont have material, good climate :D And we are in anatolia and our land was central asia you ignorant your leader rome's lands.

@dayift2387

4 жыл бұрын

@@jackjft9654 lol at the austria war we only lost too little Land

@biliminsrlar5752

4 жыл бұрын

@@jackjft9654 Anatolia isn't a desert lmao.

@mlk3327

4 жыл бұрын

@@jackjft9654 Turkey does not have deserts

@mehmetbahadryildirim3206

4 жыл бұрын

@@jackjft9654 ignorant shit, lol :d

Paradox Games aside, I think the biggest issue with t he Ottomans was that they were simply too busy. Maintaining the trade network, fighting rivals, keeping things together. That's a lot of work. Spain, without having to worry about most of that, was able to easily redirect efforts to other ventures. Not to mention geography helped.

@rahileshanbi5551

2 жыл бұрын

I was going to mention their geographic location... But you did. So yeah, you're very correct actually.

@StudSupreme

2 жыл бұрын

Incorrect. Spain was in the thick of European politics and wars. They had LOTS to concern them, no less than the Ottomans. Same for Portugal and Holland.

@ElladanKenet

2 жыл бұрын

@@StudSupreme They had concerns, sure, but not enough to stop them from looking for colonies.

@gustavosanches3454

2 жыл бұрын

@@StudSupreme while Spain did have its own array of problems it wasn't near as bad as the Ottomans though. Spain mostly had to deal with enemies such as France and it was powerful enough to match it and it had a geographical advantage. Meanwhile the Ottomans had fierce competition from all around its position in the world, not to mention the fact it was mostly conquering lands from other religions which adds a whole different issue to its imperial maintenance.

@TheHigherSpace

2 жыл бұрын

I'm from Tunisia, and as you can see in the map shown multiple times in this video, the north part looks like it doesnt belong to anyone, yes it was independant, but a big part of our history was that Spain invaded, then the ottomans took it back, then spain came back again, then again the ottomans, and so on .. All of this to say that Spain and The ottomans were very much at war and in a big conflict in the mediterranean all the time. they even used proxy pirate forces against each other.

One of the history professors in the masters program I was in told me that the amount of gold coming to Spain from the western hemisphere and flowing east was actually a major cause of destabilization due to insane inflation and contributed to the downfall of the Ottomans

@Cyricist001

2 жыл бұрын

As a history teacher I can say the guy was wrong. Spain imported more silver than gold from the New World and traded that in Asia for gold at a favorable rate. And then they ruined their economy through inflation, it became much cheaper to import goods than to buy them locally...like the US did in the last fifty years.

@asoka7752

2 жыл бұрын

@@Cyricist001 wrong. Spain plundered a lot of gold from Aztec.

@Cyricist001

2 жыл бұрын

@@asoka7752 And you base your assertion on?

@flammabletoast5820

2 жыл бұрын

@@asoka7752 wtf I was baffled when I read the original comment, now again reading yours, I’m very glad there’s a history teacher here because the myth that spain got gold from american tribes, is just that, a myth, people who lived there did not posses the technical requirements to mine for gold, it is infact true that they had a very small supply of gold that got washed to the river banks (as far as I know) and the story goes, they used that little amount of gold to plate and make some items which then misled the intruders to believe they indeed had way more gold, which they didn’t, the amount of gold they brought back couldn’t have ever progressed a whole ass country let alone a village

@asoka7752

2 жыл бұрын

@@flammabletoast5820 lie.

The main idea behind Columbus first voyage was to find a western sea route to the East Indies (India and southeastern Asia), because the historical route was no longer available to the Europeans after the rise of the Ottoman empire. The Ottomans, of course, had no problems getting access to the spices from the East Indies, and, therefore, seeking a new route was totally unnecessary to them. Once everyone understood that a new continent had been discovered, and the potential economic benefit of getting access to it, it was probably too late for the Ottomans to attempt anything on the Americas.

@helstromh

2 жыл бұрын

The English didn't start colonization of the Americas until after 100 years. Jamestown was the first British colony in 1607. Heck, Russia didn't colonize Alaska until 1741, almost 250 years after discovery of the new world. That gave the Ottomans a LOT of time to make a decision. As specified in the video, I believe they did not see much profit, as pushing towards the West (i.e. Morocco) would be a lot of effort for a small gain. Also the East route to the Americas was actually more difficult, as the Northern currents threw ships into the coast of Alaska, the "central" currents would pull them into turbulent waters in the open seas of the Pacific, while the Southern currents would have probably gotten them to Australia first.

@zazugee

Жыл бұрын

@@helstromh they were busy trying to protect the territories they had

@user-od8sk2gf7w

Жыл бұрын

It is true that Columbus did not discover it but rather killed its inhabitants who lived there for thousands of years and certainly there were civilizations

@glorght

Жыл бұрын

Actually, Piri Reis *best sailor of the Ottomans* reached America, made a map including Antartica, Argentina, Columbia and even Chile coast. Drawed some of the benefits like masked mans *ritualistic people*. But then he died and you know Turks are not that hood at preserving their history so a lot of Turks didin't even know this map

@lordloss3398

Жыл бұрын

@tuana could no longer steal resources drom other states

It's obvious when you play EU4. Colonial range, and conquering is generally more efficient.

@blafoon93

5 жыл бұрын

Especially with the core cost reduction of the Ottoman national ideas. Still a colonizing Ottoman campaign might be interesting. Early game might be challenging, consider the border gore atrocities you would have to commit to quickly gain access to the Atlantic cost.

@blkgardner

5 жыл бұрын

The Mamluks normally colonize in the Indian Ocean, Indonesia, Australia, and into the south Pacific. The Ottomans occasionally take some of those provinces, and so take expansion or exploration ideas. The border gore to get the Americas would not be that bad, the Ottomans would simply need to coastline hop along the coast of North Africa until they get a province in Morocco, then head to the Americas.

@CB0408

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, EU4. The game that gives Ming California every time I play it.

@WG55

5 жыл бұрын

The simple answer is that Ottoman Ideas aren't as good for colonization. 😆

@ilhamrizki4011

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but in My Naples Colonial Campaign. Turkish Mexico and Turkish Australia Created by the Ottomans.

What I love about this channel is it answers questions I didn’t know I had.

@assyriancrusader3760

Жыл бұрын

Your name 😂👌

@JKTProductionzIncNCo

Жыл бұрын

lmoa I can't just get over ur name

Imagine if Turks called Peru "Hindi" turkey🦃 in Turkish. That would be extremely confusing.

@emirhan7231

3 жыл бұрын

Hi i am turk

@lejonlar1999

3 жыл бұрын

even this reply is confusing

@tomriskhatun8192

3 жыл бұрын

We call Turkey to India we say Hindistan which means the land of turkey 😂😂

@envinyatar5712

3 жыл бұрын

@@lejonlar1999 Yes, it is confusing. 😅 'Hindi' is Turkish for turkey the bird, and 'Hindistan' is India. In Portuguese, they call turkey 'peru' which is also a country's name in America whom they used to think India. There is another bird that resembles turkey; guinea fowl which is native to East Africa that was dominated by the Turkish Empire back then. And so, the Englishmen thought that the bird they find in the West Indies/America was the same the Turks used to sell them, thus they named it turkey. In Turkey, however; we were told that the Spaniards and the British had brought turkeys from India, and so we called them 'hindi'/Indian.

@abbad707

3 жыл бұрын

Envinyatar LOL

Jesus christ i have this question on my mind since i played Age Of Empires III...

@darnit1944

5 жыл бұрын

Ottomans cant train pikemen from barracks. That's why they lost.

@joostfrank152

5 жыл бұрын

@@darnit1944 jesus true 😂

@MsAkbar14

5 жыл бұрын

Ma boi Ottoman didn't crave america land, they only care to destroy fountain of youth

@insaneweasel1

5 жыл бұрын

@@darnit1944 they have OP Jan rush they dont need no stinking pikes

@__prometheus__

5 жыл бұрын

Same dude I’ve been thinking for years 😂

Ottomans wanted to conquer europe first xD

@PedroCruz-kl3vh

5 жыл бұрын

@Easter Worshipper when

@eskihesap9985

4 жыл бұрын

@@jackjft9654 Dude calm down.

@jackjft9654

4 жыл бұрын

Akaat T how about no.

@eskihesap9985

4 жыл бұрын

@@jackjft9654 Ottoman dominance in balkans lasted pretty long.

@burhan446

4 жыл бұрын

@@jackjft9654 aw did some one hurt your feelings

Europeans did find America because of them.

@nemalmacihazlari8479

4 жыл бұрын

Ottomans haven’t big ships, thats way they cant research on the sea. dont forget it

@melih8762

4 жыл бұрын

Andromalius they haven’t needed to have, so. they were the biggest power on mediterranean sea and have had the most power on silk road. by the way, smaller ships are more effective in seas. countries like uk, france must have needed to build bigger ships thanks to oceans. if ottomans would’ve wanted to sail to the west, they could have. because they’ve had the most qualified engineers and the richest state chest at the start of the exploration era.

@melih8762

4 жыл бұрын

James Kong that still didn’t define the cause of the explorations. yes, they wanted to find new routes but why? that’s the question we need to ask. history needs deep thinking and making keen cause and effect relation.

@ppap9818

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-kt9mz3hp1r it was leif erikkson actually

@nemalmacihazlari8479

4 жыл бұрын

@@melih8762 yes you say will be truths, I am trying to say something similar to you. Ottomans haven't big ships because they couldn't need it, thats way they not make big ships. Dont forget, big ships is more powerfull research on the big ocean and most strong than little ships.

That is historically correct. Great job! I liked the video and subscribed already.

*Mamluks:* * laugh in Australian *

@XXVIMurat

4 жыл бұрын

Some eu4 problems

@oppenheimer2005

4 жыл бұрын

Arent Mamluqs who destroyed Ghenghis Khan?

@Vebian

4 жыл бұрын

eu4 lol

@rohatb

4 жыл бұрын

Mamluks: Haha exploration ideas go brrr

@ancientwarrior3482

3 жыл бұрын

@@oppenheimer2005 no one destroyed Ghengis Khan

What are you talking about? My EU4 playthrough taught me that the Ottomans colonized the Indonesian Archipelago and East Africa

@eretna2480

5 жыл бұрын

it is true but not in the name of "colonization"

@jorgeshaft1483

5 жыл бұрын

No, those are always the Mamluks. They go there before the Ottomans devour them ^^

@rundownthriftstore

5 жыл бұрын

Jorge Shaft in my experience the Ottos chase the Mamluks across the damn world and take ALL their shit. It’s always the Ottos and Ming fighting a 5 million man war over Christmas Island.

@NRooster

5 жыл бұрын

Also Iceland

@St-fr2kv

5 жыл бұрын

Otoman is not colonized all of Indonesia Region Ottoman is just Colonized in Sumatera Island👍

Nailed it!! Excellent work!

I love your channel keep up the great stuff!

Ottomans: I'm gonna control the spice trade and become extremely wealthy Portugal: _stop right there_

@biliminsrlar5752

4 жыл бұрын

Netherlands: *hello there*

@SAMX4949

3 жыл бұрын

Oh if Vasco didnt land in Calicut.

@ElkaPME

3 жыл бұрын

_Imma stop you right there_

@raisul_raj

3 жыл бұрын

Duch: it's free real estate in Indian ocean .

@ezequiel717

3 жыл бұрын

PORTUGAL CARALHOOO

In an ironic twist, and bizarre as it seems, given that the Ottoman Caliphate ended in 1924, etymologically speaking, and based on a story called Exploits of Explandian by Garcia Rodriguez de Montalvo, California might well be the world’s only surviving ‘Caliphate’.

@abraxasee8946

Жыл бұрын

What?

@triangulartriangle9604

Жыл бұрын

California's name comes from the word "Caliph" + is or something. This is in homage to their supposed Caliph, which along with the island of California was a hoax.

@triangulartriangle9604

Жыл бұрын

*ia, not is

@niggalini

Жыл бұрын

@@triangulartriangle9604yeah, the mythical island of California in Las Sergas de Esplandian, ruled by the character "Calafia", the Muslim Queen of that mythical island

@bigalmou2261

Жыл бұрын

No wonder california sucks lmao

Ottoman Empire also saw "Colonizing" as "looting". And due to religion, looting was seen as thievery and therefore a great sin. Ottoman Empire wasn't too keen on breaking religious beliefs although for some exceptions which were thought to be FOR religion. I believe they were only able to take and conquer places (without invading them) via declaring war of some sort. Otherwise it was seen as "being an asshole" and taking people's houses without telling them is a sin.

@Ahmadnj

8 ай бұрын

I agree

@losidiomas8135

6 ай бұрын

@TugiDeg You are wrong!I am Georgian and we Georgians had many battles with them.They had always been invading my country.They invaded and conquered western Georgia and they had been kidnapping girls and boys in order to sell them as slaves and make janissaries and sultan's concubines from them!The Ottomans invaded other European countries and kidnapped young people who were sold by them as slaves!

@PhyrexJ

5 ай бұрын

All the while they were doing things their religion condemned. Oh, the hypocrisy.

@elimrani7939

5 ай бұрын

Well it's complicated like ROME witch had the same believe that their gods would grant them victory if their war was justified but justified is really open to interpretation I mean was Caesar justified in conquering Gaul not really neither did the Ottomans

@asdf33395

4 ай бұрын

That's a silly way of looking at it, colonization is just the act of controlling an indigenous population by another state for it's self-interests. Just as the europeans saw and justified their colonization of others as civilizing mission, the ottomans justified their invasion of their neighbours on their neighbours because they could and in the case of the balkans because they followed the 'right' religion. There was no moral opposition because they were already engaged in empire building and had a long history of slavery. As said in the video the main reason they didn't colonise the americas/southern africa was because they didn't need to.

fun fact:Christopher Colombus wanted support and ships for exploring America from Ottoman Sultan Beyazid the 2. and he reject him

@yaslaan

3 жыл бұрын

Funnier fact: He also rejected Leo da Vinci and his bridge plans for Golden Horn. I still wonder what Cem Sultan would do?

@yigithandilber5511

3 жыл бұрын

@Makber in that 4 years he gained xp and used them to max charisma so he could give some more points to persuasion

@unyoughtful

3 жыл бұрын

How would they accept? Do you think that Ottomans would have any power in the new world, while they were already struggling in their own territory.

@yigithandilber5511

3 жыл бұрын

@@unyoughtful Cem, muhtemelen beyazittan daha iyi padişah olurdu.

@erolkarcan3896

3 жыл бұрын

bunun gerçekliği tartışılıyor bayağı

When is the video about the Orthodox view of the Protestant reformation coming?

@loganfannin1238

5 жыл бұрын

Argyrus 47 that’s a dope idea

@martinrdh96

5 жыл бұрын

Lolwut

@johnerrol3813

5 жыл бұрын

HERESY!

@tsardushan

5 жыл бұрын

"From 1576 to 1581 he (Constantinople Pateiarch Jeremias II) conducted the first important theological exchanges between Orthodoxy and Protestants. On 24 May 1575, Lutherans Jakob Andreae and Martin Crusius from Tübingen presented the Patriarch with a translated copy of the Augsburg Confession. Jeremias II wrote three rebuttals known as 'Answers,' which established that the Orthodox Church had no desire for reformation. The Lutherans replied to the first two letters, but the third letter ended in a deadlocked disagreement between the parties. The significance of the exchanges were that they presented, for the first time in a precise and clear way, where the Orthodox and Reformation churches stood in relation to each other."

@brandonlyon730

5 жыл бұрын

The Orthodox Russian Empire also got involved in the 30 years by sending troops to the Protestant side as well as the Muslim Ottoman Empire. Though it was more to screw over the Austrian Von Hasburgs then anything to do with religion. Same as France who were Catholic but joined up with the Protestant side of the war.

British Empire: Let's attack weak countries. Otto-man Empire: Let's attack the strongest countries.

@akashrav5657

2 жыл бұрын

The opposite

@Turgineer

2 жыл бұрын

@@akashrav5657 Again Britain Empire: Attacking the natives using spears with weapons.

@seriat-garra-imuhammediyye7689

2 жыл бұрын

@@akashrav5657 go and bath in GANJ colonised indian

@asoka7752

2 жыл бұрын

@@Turgineer They still do the same thing.

@cazwalt9013

2 жыл бұрын

That's literally the opposite

This was a question I did not know I needed answered

Ottoman's nayy created to be strong in inland sea(mediterranean), those ships can't stand long in oceans. With such navy tradition you can't win a single battle in open seas as they didn't.

@adriancampos8640

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, galleys aren't suited for that.

@USERZ123XD

3 жыл бұрын

neither were the European vessels in the early days, most European ships sailed close to the shore,, if the Vikings are able to sail using their little dingy then am sure if the Ottoman really wanted to, they will find a way.

@adriancampos8640

3 жыл бұрын

@@USERZ123XD Yes, it's true that the ottomans could have found a way, but it's also true that the europeans had better hull desings. The galleys used in the mediterranean by the ottomans weren't as robust structurally as european ships of the same period, so the ottomans would have had to develop a ship similar to a cog or a caravel without the precedent of the vikings (who made small but strong ships).

@sleepforever

3 жыл бұрын

Glad the Turks/Ottomans didn't find the new world!!! I would hatebto be Muslim. Islam would just crush our culture ... Never!! Thanskt the Europeans found us

@erx2043

3 жыл бұрын

@@sleepforever dude what are you talking about, Ottomans NEVER DID IMPERIALISM which means you would have kept your language & your religion like every country in the Ottoman empire had. The Greeks still speak Greek & are still Christian, so are all the Balkan countries (still speak their own languages & practice their own religions). Ottoman's never did colonialism & Ottoman's never did imperialism because it never was in its interest & it never will be. This is why the power that Turkey is creating right now will not involve those things either. This video did not properly describe the reasons as to why Ottoman's didn't colonize. There are other, actual strategic reasons

1:02 "Can we sell you?"

@kqnkqy9114

4 жыл бұрын

Video da ne anlatmak istiyor baya merak ettim

@mustafaturgun

4 жыл бұрын

@@kqnkqy9114 Bence Ingilizce öğrenmelisin. A1 kurundan baslayabilirsin. Gereklilik gercekten

@TurquazCannabiz

3 жыл бұрын

@Atilla Tamam abartma

@bilalsemihkutlu2889

3 жыл бұрын

@@mustafaturgun sen anladın mı

@Changbinsww

3 жыл бұрын

Video 16. yüzyılda Osmanlının kabul edilebilir bir güçte olduğu Akdeniz bölgesini domine ettiğinden bahsedilerek başlanıyor. Osmanlının o devirde Akdenizden Cebeli Tarık boğazı aracılığı ile çıkmasının kolay olmadığı, halihazırda Hint okyanusuna kıyıları olsa bile Afrikanın çevresinden dolaşmak istemedikleri ve ekonomik olarak Amerikaya koloni kurmak için sebepleri olmadığı söyleniyor. Ardından Avrupa ülkelerinin konumundan dolayı Osmanlıya para kazandırmadan yeni Akdenizi kullanmadan ticaret yapabilme yolları aradıkları, Osmanlının ise yeni dünya yani Amerika kıtasının zenginliklerinden haberdar olmadığı, Kanuni ve sonrasında gelen padişahların kıtaya karşı ilgisiz kalırken batılı devletlerin özellikle İspanya ve Portekizin büyük sömürgelere ulaştığı anlatılıyor. Aynı zamanda Osmanlının kuzey Afrika üzerinden Cezayire uzanması, ve oradan Atlantik okyanusunu geçip Güney Afrika ve Karayiplere ulaşması beklendiği m bunun hiç gerçekleşmediği anlatılıyor. Zaten olayların devamında 17. yüzyılda Osmanlının yavaş yavaş yolunu kaybetmeye başladığına şahit olacağız.

Actually, we're talking about the most glorious era of Ottoman. The biggest reason by far was Suleiman's indifference about new lands. Ottoman's navy was partly independent from army so it wouldn't affect that much their competition with Safavids or Habsburgs. Their navy was already strong asf thanks to Barbarossa, he almost never lost against Eurepean states in Mediterrenean. They also had no problem in terms of money to enhance the navy.

@mbern4530

2 жыл бұрын

That's the problem, he was good against the Mediterranean nations, but when the Portuguese showed up in the Indian ocean they changed naval warfare and the Ottomans could never really compete. They simply didn't have the ships for open ocean sailing and their tactics for dealing with the Italians were obsolete by the time the Portuguese and Spanish took over the oceans.

@ahmetturkmen0011

2 жыл бұрын

@@mbern4530 they did have the ships. There's similar videos talking about the ottomans having sail ships on par with the west, even the ottoman fleet sailing in open seas in the Indian Ocean, fighting agaisnt the Portuguese navy (in africa and east indies), even scoring victories there (also in the Mediterranean in the 16th and 17th century). But it was indifference and lack of vision that caused their downfall. Tldr: ottoman navy was sufficient, it just never sailed west.

@serhafiye7046

Жыл бұрын

@@mbern4530 Wrong, because Ottomans had lands on Indonesia, fought in the ocean a lot also

@mbern4530

Жыл бұрын

@@serhafiye7046 They lost to the Portuguese in almost every battle even when they had the superior numbers. Their cannons were so poor that Venice was helping them build modern weapons. The Ottomans just never had the ability to counter European powers when Europe built bigger ships. Just look at the battle of Lepanto where 3 or 4 large ships turned the tide of battle against them.

@hussainashraf5179

Жыл бұрын

@@mbern4530 ottomans fought all of eastern and central europe and thats a superpower unlike spain and.emglanx

I remember having heard of a very notable ottoman historian saying the ottomans were not in building galleons but galleys. which were fine and manueverable in closed mediterranean sea, galleons are much resource intensive tall ships useful in high seas also there was the glory and status quo following grand sultans; the decadance and less competent sultans with little vision it should be expected at least to expand into indian coast and possibly to indonesian coastline after the success of new world expeditions

@alonsoquijano1731

Жыл бұрын

Thats true. Ottomans couldnt compete against Portugals in Indian Ocean... They would not control america or south africa with those ships.

@ennui9745

4 ай бұрын

Exactly. Galleys, which are rowed, are cheap and effective in closed inland seas, but not effective in the open ocean. The Europeans came to dominate the seas more than anyone else because they eventually came to have the best tall ships in the world. As in EU4: galleys are cheap and have a combat bonus in coastal and inland waters, but will lose to galleons on the high seas.

They didn’t colonize Korea either. We flexed on them from a far distance

@rens2030

5 жыл бұрын

Kim Jong-un no you nuked them stupid

@jonasb104

5 жыл бұрын

@@rens2030 THAT IS flexing from a far distance. Like the USA and the USSR flexed on each other from far away 50 years.

@rens2030

5 жыл бұрын

Jonas Brauer oh than i’m stupid

@LEO_M1

5 жыл бұрын

Jonas Brauer You know that the U.S. and Russia almost touch, right?

@jonasb104

5 жыл бұрын

@@LEO_M1 Yes, in Alaska. But as a german I look from europe right in the middle🙄😂

When Ottomans were powerful the economic value of Americas was not high enough to justify investment from their own view point. That is building an ocean going navy, acquiring bases along coasts of Atlantic, fortifying and manning them while being at constant war with Spain. When economic value of Americas proved critical, Ottomans had already lost their steam and they had to content a growing Russia while modernizing their country which continues till today. Ottomans lacked a bourgeoise class like in Europe. While we can trace roots of capitalism in Europe back to 13th century, Ottomans had a moral and command economy. So a bourgeoise class that seeks profit around the globe pushing their ruling elite to colonialism and sharing bounty was not present in Ottoman society. Even France, that does not have to pass a hostile Gibraltar, being thousands km closer to Americas than Ottomans failed to compete with the British and Spanish.

@amirashraf6422

4 жыл бұрын

@@Wambitisdabest yes, prior to establishment of European style banks in the Ottoman state. For example Islamic-based economy prohibits exploitation like interests in loans. Capitalism itself is alien in the muslim world back then.

@amirashraf6422

4 жыл бұрын

@@Wambitisdabest Slavery was commonplace at that time. But slavery+capitalism is much worse. You dont see gigantic plantations like in the confederate states in the muslim world back then. They remain 'backward' because their economy is not like europe.

@melchid8448

4 жыл бұрын

@@Wambitisdabest Slavery meant many things throught the history so a Roman Slave a Transatlantic slave and an Ottoman Slave was very different things. In South America and in Confedaracy slaves were basically unpaid workers who worked until death because they were seen as replacable. In Ottoman Empire killing or harming your slave was frowned upon and they werent allowed to work overtimes. Along with that many rich people tried to buy and release many slaves as possible because it was practised by Prophet Muhammad. And the work they done was respectable jobs like in the case of Janissaries many slaves had higher status than common people they served in military,in goverment jobs and in judical works. In short the "slaves" that Ottomans used was like modern butlers(maybe) they were provided a life but the only difference between a butler and slave was a slave wasnt allowed to leave his post.

@melchid8448

4 жыл бұрын

@@Wambitisdabest You are still looking from a proto-industrial standpoint you should change your lenses to a pre industrial one because before we got machines the only way to maintain an empire was using "Extensive Laborers" but how this laborers were treated is what made the definitions of slave-serf-servant. So yes being a servant was not okay by todays standart but that was what we had to and Ottomans treated their laborers best when compared to their European counterparts.

@TheMarusero

4 жыл бұрын

Hopefully, cuz the world has enough of Islam, we are lucky to be safe here in the other side of the ocean

Great video very interesting

The fault is a little Suleiman's actually. He was a little egoist (which is pretty normal considering the lands you rule and the power you have) and he didn't want to work to colonise or discover new places because he thought it was unnecessary cause they already rule the world. Surely Suleiman and other governors by that time did not think about the future deeply. There was his son called Shezhade Mustafa. Everyone loved him, the Janissaries, other soldiers, people... He was very willing to conquer Atlantic ocean. He had innovative ideas for Ottomans xD. But his father was on the throne for so long time he could not make his ideas work (Mustafa was 40 by that time). And one day while Suleiman was on a campaign to Safavids he wanted to visit his father with his soldiers and wanted to join the war just like his other brothers. There are so many conspiracy theories about what I wright right now. Some says he was really coming to take the throne from his father some says not(I think not). Suleiman thought his son was coming to take his throne because he grew beard and he was coming with his loyal soldiers (Only sultans could grow beard in Ottoman's family. If you grow beard, means that you want the throne). And unfortunately because Suleiman was afraid of losing the throne to his son, he executed his son. Sure it was a very sad incident for Suleiman and he regret it. Mustafa's brother Cihangir died after a couple of months (or weeks I dunno exactly) because of sadness. But for the country, Sultans could do that. It wasn't about himself. It was about the Ottoman Empire. So after that Suleiman's other son II. Selim take the throne. He was not that effective as a Sultan. And the ideas of colonising and conquering Atlantic flew away with Mustafa. ;(

@crennips5669

4 жыл бұрын

He is called next to Sultan to be executed, he wasnt going to join the battle with his army. In fact, the pawns idk what its name the one closed by Mahmud II so as to make upgrades in army, warned about the consuquences of going next to Sultan and wanted him to go back but instead he went right next to his father and executed.

@mohsinwaqar1224

3 жыл бұрын

Yes honestly under Mustafa ottomans would've been way better than selim the drunk

@aaronTGP_3756

Жыл бұрын

Mustafa and Suleiman were never in good relations. Hence why Suleiman believed Vizier Rustem Pasha. Mustafa was also in conflict with Hurrem. I think Hurrem's eldest son, Mehmed, would be the better choice. Evliya Celebi described him as intelligent and had good judgement. Perhaps better so than Mustafa. He was Suleiman's favorite son as well (he was Suleiman's preferred heir).

@bruhbruh-us6gl

Жыл бұрын

Turkish barbarism and stupidity naturally was the biggest obstacle between them and colonizing the New World

Real Ottoman : How many colonies i have ? Eu4 Ottoman : YES !

@xM0nst3Rx

3 жыл бұрын

Real fact tho: Ottoman or any other Turk governments never colonised anywhere. Sure, they conquered other's lands but never colonised. They didn't force their own culture or language on them. They left them to themselves as long as they paid their taxes. (And they never really paid more taxes than the Turkish folk did. We still do pay taxes [there is even tax of tax!], believe me.)

@xtron1234

3 жыл бұрын

@@xM0nst3Rx Tell that to the Anatolians

@confusion9608

3 жыл бұрын

@@xtron1234 We are Anatolians

@beypazarlordu

3 жыл бұрын

@@xtron1234 ye im from turkish and im not likeing erdogan wait more like taxdogan(I can go silivri for saying this but anyway)

@kaganduman2345

3 жыл бұрын

@@beypazarlordu bruh

Ottomans: I want to have colonies in the americas The Portuguese: I’m bout to end this man’s whole career

@toddharig8142

5 жыл бұрын

Stale meme

@justabulgarianpatriot7504

5 жыл бұрын

More like Spain not Portugal but yes 😄😂

@Habs1967

5 жыл бұрын

@@justabulgarianpatriot7504 both.

@Habs1967

5 жыл бұрын

Spain & Portugal: step aside homie.

@Daluz19940

5 жыл бұрын

Just a Bulgarian patriot Portugal took control of the Indian sea by defeating the Ottomans

1:20 U just described every single of my ottoman playthroughs in eu4

@aym.s5827

3 жыл бұрын

😂 yet you were too big of a coward to set foot on Moroccan ground. Everybody gangsta until imazighen arrive 🇲🇦ⵣ🦁💪🏻

@jimboonie9885

3 жыл бұрын

@@aym.s5827 U DICC

@aym.s5827

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimboonie9885 what’s it? Still mad? Yusen ikhan n ayyis

*Fact:* The Ottoman Empire almost made Brazil and Colombia into a Muslim Country *Brazil:* The Ottoman Empire was supporting the Yoruba people and the Hausa people, ethnic groups of Nigeria, who had been transported to Brazil and sold as slaves and invaded the State of Bahia, This is called the "Malê revolt", and it happened on a sunday, during Ramadan in 1835, then later it was suppressed by the Brazilian Army. *Colombia:* The Ottoman Empire, along with many Arabs, Lebanese, Israelis and many others, escaped from their homeland to South America, and this was not only the case of a foreign immigration, many Han Chinese, Manchu and Tibetians from the Qing Dynasty migrated to Colombia, the reason about it is because the government began oppressing the people and being persecuted, who forced many people to leave their homelands, to America.

Actually the Ottomans frequently sent muslim missionaries and later expeditionary forces eastward toward indian ocean,rather than west.ottomans did a great work helping small muslim state such as Aceh in sumatra,Gujatat in india,and demak in Java in order to fight the huge colonialist power at that time (portugese and spainaards).

@alifoemry5217

5 жыл бұрын

Salladin yes its true. ottoman help kingdom in sumatera and java to fight europe colonization.

@turkerturksever

4 жыл бұрын

please explain more Salladin

@MM-xm5vx

4 жыл бұрын

They also helped Somali king doms

@hjs8092

4 жыл бұрын

And they lost and lost and lost against the portuguese...

@alpereo6730

4 жыл бұрын

@@hjs8092 1578 50.000 portugase defeated agains 35.000 lol

Ottoman zenith was Suleyman the Magnificent’s reign in the mid 1500s. After that it was a slow decline. Europe had the printing press, the Renaissance, the Reformation and unmatched naval power in Spain, Portugal, England and Netherlands. Not to mention the battle of Lepanto checked any further Ottoman advance in the Mediterranean. The Ottomans however had countless natural resources across the empire so there was little need.

@willfakaroni5808

Жыл бұрын

That’s somewhat of an outdated view, the ottoman decline didn’t really begin until about the second half of the 1700’s, they were still winning wars with Europeans, more technologically advanced then Russia, and still became rich from the trade routes, which many people forget went in both directions

@Nicolas_II

Жыл бұрын

​@@willfakaroni5808 Austrians and Russia just bullied ottomans after the 1500's they weren't really winning against the Europeans

@samgone3702

3 ай бұрын

Yes. I am NOT a historian. BUT the greatest territorial expansion of the EMPIRE was NOT even reached until 1683, so how can you say it declined after the mid-1500s??? Doesn't make sense for you to say that.

this was a good to know... i never even thought about this task.

Very interesting thanks

I really love how accurate you go with the customs of cat characters even with some minor ones, this is us some details I really love to pay attention to

Additionally, Ottoman ships was not suitable in ocean.

@juandavidrestrepoduran6007

4 жыл бұрын

Teom Cam building, per se, not quite until very late. Buying them from the French, more probably

@barbarbarabar9097

4 жыл бұрын

@Teom Cam Japannese from xv century wanted that kind of boats and no european power sold them.

@adib4573

4 жыл бұрын

@@barbarbarabar9097 did you know Turkish architect dominated the world for centuries if they wanted they could build themselves they were pretty ahead on science before around 1700th centuries until they started having chaos and the empire started collapsing

@jdumpingplace2517

4 жыл бұрын

@@adib4573 another turkish ottoman propaganda. if they can why didn't they do it after lepanto and their whole fleet was destroyed?

@adib4573

4 жыл бұрын

@@jdumpingplace2517 yeah propaganda indeed If I hadn't seen myself . They didn't for multiple reasons firstly their geography , they were more of a land based empire and used water only for movement and didn't keep strong hold of it thus making heavy ships was unnecessary . And second colonization is basically looting and possibly Ottoman didn't want to do it because they were muslim , if they wanted to colonize they could have went to Africa too but keeping them under control would be hard thus they were more interested in expending on Eastern Europe and Asia . However Byzentine was in a wired position for a while they were in a peace agreement

Brief and straightforward analysis.

I am from Turkey and read a lot of historical articles etc about this topic. I list some other reasons did not mentioned about the video. 1- Going through morocco or from İndian Ocean was problematic. The main problem was theese regions were to far away from the Capital Istanbul. To put simply, Ottoman empire was fairly centralised for most of its time and governing far away provinces and protecting them was fairly difficult. Ottoman Empire governed indirectly the places westward from Eygpt with the help of local corsairs. 2- Ottoman ships were not suitable for ocean use, and Ottoman artisans had not the capicity and knowledge to built Ocean going vessels plus Ottoman sailors lacked the experience necessary to use these ships. All of the points mentioned previosly resulted Ottoman defat in Indian Ocean against Portuguese. 3- Ottoman elites and rulers lacked the necessary information about the importance of far awy colonies and the protecting trade routes. This empire like the Roman empire and Russian Empire was more land based. It expanded, protected its borders and gained revenues through taxation. Thus making overseas expension to a far away contient was out of question. 4- Also, Ottoman empire had a closed agricultural economy. Trade was hard between settlemetns and it required permits. It lacked the administrative foundation to support a capitalistic economy which in turn fueled colonial adventures like it was in Great Britain and Netherlands, or Germany.

@osmankarih5239

2 жыл бұрын

Great comment bro.

@asoka7752

2 жыл бұрын

then how come Ottoman sailors managed to land in Iceland to enslave their people? The real reason is Ottoman didn't have any reason, whereas Europe was desperate. plague hit them hard, lack of work force, lack of resources, lack of foods, expensive route through Ottoman empire caused them to find an alternative route to Asia, whereas Ottoman empire didn't have that need at all. Ottoman empire later might have tried, but they didn't have competent leaders later on.

@osmankarih5239

2 жыл бұрын

@@asoka7752 they were Muslim pirates not Ottoman soldiers. And it was in 17th century, Ottomans were late in the race to the New World.

@captainjim1010

2 жыл бұрын

@@asoka7752 hahahaha Ottoman sailors what a joke dude... more like pirate lowest life forms

@captainjim1010

2 жыл бұрын

Never put Turkey and History on the same sentence

Main problem of everybody on the European continent in medieval ages: HABSBURGS.

@wanderingrandomer

5 жыл бұрын

Also dying from Plague.

@jonatanlj747

5 жыл бұрын

Seems more like a renaissance thing

@Jose-xh5qb

5 жыл бұрын

@@jonatanlj747 The Renaissance was part of the Middle Ages. The Middle Ages refered to a time in Europe from the collapse of the Western Roman Empire to the 1500s.

@DarDarBinks1986

5 жыл бұрын

Feudalism in general. WHAT WERE THEY THINKING AND WHY? Why couldn't medieval people just be communists instead? Seize the means of production from the nobles and Church!

@y.ciftci9809

5 жыл бұрын

They were frickin' everywhere

Research the ethio- adal war in the horn of Africa and the Swahili coast They really did try and break the portuguese monopoly in the Indian ocean But it failed However the portuguese also tried to capture the horn of Africa coast from the somali which also failed horribly after they were defeated and a joint ottoman-somali attack recaptured the Kenyan coastal cities of lamu, pate and mombasa The portuguese immediately sent for reinforcements from India and recaptured the taken cities brutally punishing it's Swahili inhabitants for helping the ottomans and somalis Alot more also happened there's an entire campaign that took place Notable leaders involved were: Piri reis Cristavao de gama (son of the famed vasco de gama) Imam ahmed gurey Tristao de cunha Emir Nur Ibn mujahid Emperor Dawit II Emperor Geledewos Read over it it's kinda interesting

@EDCHlNA

5 жыл бұрын

That campaign ended with the execution of cristavo de gama, him and the abyssinian lost the war, and their dominance on the indian ocean suffered,

@BALLARDTWIN

5 жыл бұрын

@@EDCHlNA Technically no Even though somalis adopted a ottoman styled currency to have economic independence from the portuguese monopoly It still took a hard hit from portuguese dominance Goa was under portuguese control and so was Macau Shit didn't change for anyone And by the time it did Ottoman were extremely behind in technology and somalis themselves were not only extremely behind in tech but also divided into more then 5 different states Easy pickings for the Brits and Italians

@BALLARDTWIN

5 жыл бұрын

@Hasan Cihat Örter'i Eleştirmeyi Severim Yes but suleiman abandoned the war effort after the capture of the Swahili coast by the portuguese and ottoman influence and naval power in the Indian ocean was horrible by the time 70 years had past and we were nearly 1660-70 ottomans had their own issues in the Balkans with a rising russia and also the safavids Portugues only kept getting stronger all the way till 1800 They dominated the Indian ocean And along came British east Indian company And dutch empire And also French Before we knew it they were already landing on our shores lol

@BALLARDTWIN

5 жыл бұрын

@Hasan Cihat Örter'i Eleştirmeyi Severim Oh they weren't, they were actually very powerful and more superior than most of the world They just didn't have the desire to continue the war in the Indian ocean for some reason If they had ottoman dominance would have reached India And mughals would gave lasted alot longer Bab al mandeb trade routes would have made Egypt super rich like Ptolemy Egypt

@kesorangutan6170

5 жыл бұрын

Dude you have the best nickname

When Ottomans finally had access to Red sea and later Persian sea, they were still prevented easy access to oceans as portuguese already colonized aden region and hormuz straits. Also they had to build a secondary navy from scratch, and it took many wars with portuguese to sail out to indian ocean. If Ottomans would manage to construct the suez channel back then, they would probably dominate the indian oceans with support of their main navy in meds.

@ArdaSReal

Жыл бұрын

The suez canal wouldhave been a game changer in ottoman history, bringing them back into the center of the world, but it just never was realistic. It only happened with financing of other rich empires centuries later

@abcdefg91111

Жыл бұрын

@@ArdaSReal and the fact that industrial equipment came up much later.

@marwansoliman5157

Жыл бұрын

The Suez canal would have been a disaster later

the ottomans always wanted to conquer morocco, but they couldn't, there's a large misconception that morocco wasn't strong at the time, in fact they were strong enough to keep the ottomans, spain and portugal away from their land (it's obvious when you think about it, why did the spanish and Portuguese conquer very distant lands when they could've token both the american lands and morocco)

@healthnature6240

Жыл бұрын

In addition after discovering and colonizing far countries, Portugal tried to occupy morocco and were defeated in a famous battle called battle of three kings where Portuguese Sebastien 1st and many Italian, Flemish and German mercenaries were killed.

@aymanerazine750

Жыл бұрын

@@healthnature6240 exactly, and during the rule of saadis (same dynasty to kick all of the spanish, Portuguese and ottomans), they even expanded to the south and south east, and this is to narrow the siege on the Ottomans and prevent them from entering their country.

@cardozoluciano8362

Жыл бұрын

And yet they still can't into Ceuta...

Meanwhile in EU4 you have the ottomans and mamluks colonizing... lmao

@maxbeckmann3063

5 жыл бұрын

Very rare, i just see them colonizing australia and taiwan for now

@rallis3937

5 жыл бұрын

I have seen an ottoman colony in america literally once in like 500 hours

@aidiero

4 жыл бұрын

Playing as malaya, ottomans go east, cross the Pacific and colonize Argentina and alaska

@argaandri1077

4 жыл бұрын

It's always tunis and granada

How about Italian incompetence in WW's?

@TheGM-20XX

5 жыл бұрын

@nikolai bahtin Try try try again and if that fails try 9 more times.

@barraganimperator4420

5 жыл бұрын

@nikolai bahtin dont forget Caporetto

@reinatr4848

5 жыл бұрын

@@slavyanych231 They kinda were. They lost Veneto for 1 year.

@lesse4692

5 жыл бұрын

Probably because of italy at that time was a poor country and principally agricoltural

@v.m3061

5 жыл бұрын

@nikolai bahtin Vittorio Veneto

I appreciate ur efforts and I admit I only see these becoz they are interesting not becoz I want to learn

Your accent is pretty understandable thx

A major point about why they didn't even try to, is the fact that the ottoman empire (like the byzantine empire in the past) was not only conservative but also highly centralized. It had to be a sultan's wish to do it but taking risks was not even remotely in their culture.

@Alamyst2011

Жыл бұрын

Independent thought and action could be harshly punished. Losing or Winning a battle could easily punished. Very strange times.

What do you mean? Of course they did! The Ottomans went to the new world to stop the Circle of Ossus from gaining the fountain of youth.

@nohandsajkula5842

3 жыл бұрын

Nope, it was the spaniards

@rixille

3 жыл бұрын

Nice obscure AOE III reference there.

@bariscan9441

3 жыл бұрын

A man of culture i see

@sheroxx3787

3 жыл бұрын

man of culture

I think a better question to ask is: Why didn't China colonise the Americans and such? It almost happened but didn't. I think that is more important to look into than Ottoman Empire in the Americas instead.

@damc8415

2 жыл бұрын

Europeans initially traveled to the Americas looking for an alternate route to China. Meanwhile, China had already figured out where to find itself: as Chevy Chase said, "Wherever you go, there you are."

@75aces97

2 жыл бұрын

China's treasure ships had that capability, but apparently the Ming didn't have the will to explore in that direction.

@iamthinking2252_

2 жыл бұрын

@@75aces97 maybe holding China together takes a lot of energy (money, force?) that made further expansion not worth it (in their eyes at least)?

@75aces97

2 жыл бұрын

@@iamthinking2252_ it does. Then again just building that treasure fleet at all was an exorbitant expense of resources and man hours that I don't think any kingdom outside China could have built them at the time. And only if the emperor and Zheng He found it worthwhile. Venturing out across the sea for uncharted land might have sounded like a fool's errand.

@KangaKucha

2 жыл бұрын

@@75aces97 I pretty much said that. They had the ability but didn't care. Instead, Europe who come by and dominate it.

Super smart question and as smart an answer. Thanks

This would be a good alternate historical scenario.

@OTW18

4 жыл бұрын

Reality inspires Art

You should probably not use the same colour for Aragon but other than that great video! Really interesting question as well

There are other models of empires besides the colonialist capitalist model we're all accustomed to. The Ottoman. Empire took over lands, but they did not enact the same settler colonial practices that Spain, UK, France & the Dutch did in the modern colonial era. Ottoman onquests initially preserved much of the existing administrative machinery and culture, in many territories they amounted to little more than a change of rulers for the subject populations, Very different from the European approach to the "new world'

@kane357lynch

Жыл бұрын

We conquered people who practiced cannibalism and human sacrifice

@charliedibe6180

Жыл бұрын

@@kane357lynch who is we? What people are you referring to?

@l0remipsum991

Жыл бұрын

​@@charliedibe6180 Spanish more likely?

@tuluppampam

Жыл бұрын

That is also what the Romans did, i.e. the best way of quickly conquering and maintaining control of large regions

@DarkVeilNebula

Жыл бұрын

The comment i was looking for… Otherwise a lot of countries besides Turkic countries would speak Turkish. North africa and whole middle east would speak it but no north africans know french tho. Just like the rest of almost whole africa

Sounds like a great alternative history story.

I really wonder that a lot of time Thank you!

Good job man its a great video because its totaly realistic logical FAİR and acedemic. İ said fair cuz whenever i watch something about ottoman history from other videos i feel like they are telling the story of enemy but yours is objective. İts not the history of ur enemy its just history of some nation others should be fair and abjective like u do. Gj again

Very, very interesting.

The Ottomans did send a naval expedition all the way to Sumatra in the mid 16th century. In the 17th century the Barbary corsairs raided Iceland a couple of times.

Wow I was just watching your videos and you just posted this.

@tsarnature6587

5 жыл бұрын

Hello fellow leader

@musikkritik6316

5 жыл бұрын

Wow

I love how even a 3 minute video has a summary.

"Even your dreams cannot reach where my might reaches" - Fatih Sultan Mehmet, who took Istanbul at the age of 21

He teaches me more in 10 minutes thaN any of my history teacher ever did

Another thing to note. The ships that sailed the Mediterranean were not suitable for the atlantic and therefore would have resulted in a huge expediture

@whitenights4524

5 жыл бұрын

This is the most accurate comment.

According to the Duchess of Medina Sidonia, America had already been discovered a long time before Columbus by Arab-Andalusian or Moroccan sailors trading with ports in Brasil, Guyana and Venezuela and she published her memoirs in “No fuimos nosotros” and “Africa versus America”.

@Alamyst2011

Жыл бұрын

Several cultures found America in many different eras. Vikings, Chinese, Pacific Islanders etc. Columbus was the guy who made it famous

I would have liked to seen a sign at 1:11 that said something like "Bigger fish to fry."

I like how the ottoman went to africa , arabia , europe and towards russia at the same time They can build civilizations all over the place

@anotherhumanbeing3923

4 жыл бұрын

? Ottomans didnt own Russian land? If ur talking about crimea or caucausia, those lands arent russian

@anotherhumanbeing3923

4 жыл бұрын

@Mahmut Tuncer tatarstan,yakutsk etc etc arent Russia,they are autonomous

@anotherhumanbeing3923

4 жыл бұрын

@Mahmut Tuncer im also not talking about present?

@emirkzlcan4178

4 жыл бұрын

@@anotherhumanbeing3923 ohh my dude, if timur didnt atack to golden horde then never be nation named russian or any slavic nation, Turks dominated russian lands more than slavs, pls dont cry

@anotherhumanbeing3923

4 жыл бұрын

@@emirkzlcan4178 kardeş ya ingilizce öğren yada atarlanma

They were in Age of Empire 3. Are you really gonna argue with AOE3? Didn't think so.

@the_phen0m639

3 жыл бұрын

Where? I don't remember

@supremeleaderchase7339

3 жыл бұрын

@@the_phen0m639 They were playable in skirmish mode and multiplayer, but I don't think they were in the story at all.

@the_phen0m639

3 жыл бұрын

@@supremeleaderchase7339 bruh I still play it sometimes but never saw something like that

@antoniofrancis1736

3 жыл бұрын

Didnt they remove asia from that game? Like i remember that there were some maps in south east asia and some asian nations there but suddently they were gone for some reason

@supremeleaderchase7339

3 жыл бұрын

@@antoniofrancis1736 I think that was DLC

"Sheer tenacity and a disregard for established knowledge." I love it!

@ddc2957

3 жыл бұрын

Something Muslims cannot do.

@troglodyto

2 жыл бұрын

so spain was sort of the silicon valley of the 16th century, with its crazy new ideas and venture capital backing columbus, etc.?

@dovahkiin3379

2 жыл бұрын

@@ddc2957 then explain advanced geometry, medicine, the first official police force in history, algorithms, chemistry, pioneering new Fields of knowledge such as algebra, sociology,optics, modern medicine and it's drug production, even the god damn modern scientific theory of experimental methodology which is the basis of nowadays research and discovery is considered by most historians as being pioneered by Muslim scientist Al-Hasan Ibn Al-Haythem The low levels that we muslims have reached today came about as a result of Western imperialism and colonization but it's not a definitive stat and definitely doesn't represent our history or what Islam stands for, I understand your hate as people fear what they don't understand and that fear can take the form of hate but I can't justify you speaking out of ignorance and attempting to share that with people

@ddc2957

2 жыл бұрын

Certainly I will. Heavy inbreeding takes a heavy toll. The further back in history you go, the less it’s obvious effects are felt. This much earlier Muslims were far smarter & more inquiry-inclined. But after 1400 years of first-cousins having children, the well-documented impacts of the practice have taken their fatal toll.

@dovahkiin3379

2 жыл бұрын

@@ddc2957 yeah I thought you were a bark but no bite, but you just confirmed it, you hate Islam and it's as simple as that, you've already disregarded your main point and jumped at your next insecurity, no need to try and throw some meaning to your second comment by adding "well documented" we both know no such documents exist as cousin marriage was not an abnormal thing for Muslims and not worth documenting it's incidents and definitely not for the low peasants and workers outside courts and castles so your "evidence" is a lie, not that you need one though, I feel no shame nor any concern to say that cousin marriage is permitted in Islam because it's not encouraged it's just permitted and genetics say that as soon as the next generation marries outside of cousins circle any chance of negative effects pervious marriages had will be nullified by the newly added and expanded Gene pool, the risks are also very low standing at right below 3% while not being encouraged that small chance is almost negligible, not to mention that most of pre-industrial human society, people didn't really know the world outside of their villages and the chance of marrying your cousin was pretty high, by that logic most of us humans are inbred(which is a fact to some extent as we all come from the same root... Adam & Eve) By the way 26 States of a total of 50 US federal states allow first cousin marriage

It would be pretty helpful if you can send this video to the DAMN EU4 AI

In XVI Castilla and Aragón weren't separate anymore. Both monarchies were merged by Isabel de Castilla and Fernando de Aragón at the end of XV century.

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@turkishboyMLT

5 жыл бұрын

Amsterdami da al Samuyel bir gece ansızın coh hoştur red light 😂

@samuelnewman2910

5 жыл бұрын

@@turkishboyMLT 85 Amsterdam olsun o zaman hehe

@jamesharris3184

4 жыл бұрын

Texas şehir değil , 3 avrupa ülkesi büyüklüğünde bir eyalet.

@nazx2941

4 жыл бұрын

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@doroffixial

4 жыл бұрын

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Are you ever gonna do more long form videos again ??

@TheTrooper115

5 жыл бұрын

When the channel change was made he did claim that he'd continue to do longer videos, you probably won't get a direct answer though - People have been asking about this since the change and not once have I seen him reply to any of the questions.

One thing you forget is logistics, main shipyard of the empire located at the capital konstantiniyye (nowadays istanbul) it would be weeks worth of journey just to reach gibraltar and no ports to resuply because of the northern africa ports are not developed enaugh

I like this. In another video discussing how most of the European powers felt about the New World, even most if them seemed to say "it's nothing of note, really", and these are the people who DID eventually put up money, people, and risk to go colonize it. It doesn't seem really much of a stretch to see the Ottomans; the people they were trying to work around, being equally uninterested, especially since they already had the enviable position said other powers wanted to dispute.

Ottomans: To the Americas! Portuguese: How bout no....then he waddled away

@arifakyuz7673

5 жыл бұрын

TILL THE VERY NEXT DAY

@__prometheus__

5 жыл бұрын

Amazing

@SM-ly5tf

5 жыл бұрын

Waddle waddle

@whitenights4524

5 жыл бұрын

And you became their bitches

I'm glad you're mentioning Ethiopias independence but the italo-ethiopian war of 1895 is cooler

The sultanate of florida sound Very Nice

Explains a lot of current issues in north and west Africa

Fun fact: Morocco's Sultan at that time was calling Ottoman Suleiman, "King of fishermen". And Ottomans always wanted to colonize other countries under the name of religion, they wanted Morocco to pledge allegiance to the empire (aka Bend the knee) but luckily the rulers at that time didn't want to and they got into a war with the Ottomans to stop them. It's like today the Vatican will come to England and tells it to pledge allegiance to the pop instead of the queen

@wapleviathan4006

5 жыл бұрын

The same thing happened to Savafid dynasty in Iran and Mughal in India.

@celeen7476

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@nuriye7576

3 жыл бұрын

Actually under Ottoman rule people of different ethnicities and religions lived relatively peacefully for hundreds of years. The Ottoman Empire is proof that if treated correctly, different people get along, unlike in modern societies who are constantly warring.

@othmanbettach2665

3 жыл бұрын

Morocco beated the ottomans in the battle of wadi la ban, they abolished any plans to conquer Morocco later

@lan6139

3 жыл бұрын

@@nuriye7576 Well, nationalism didn't exist back then

They also had to deal with the constant revolts across their lands most significantly in Egypt when Mohammad Ali came around and even after his death.

@abdo5615

5 жыл бұрын

Broman by your flawless logic, the French and the Polish are traitors for resisting Nazi rule and they don’t deserve Germany on their side

@abdo5615

5 жыл бұрын

Broman okay bro we get that you’re a salty Turk lol calm down First of all, as far as I’m concerned at least, the French weren’t the ones being thrown in Aushwitz so it had nothing to do with the Jews so I’m not gonna talk about what happened in Armenia. Secondly, wtf? Civilization? Rights? Progress? Yeah in Anatolia and Istanbul maybe, but in the Arab world? What propaganda are you being fed? The Arabs were ruling themselves they literally could not have more rights than that. And what’s this about civilisation? If we’re talking about Egypt, the Levant and Iraq, you’d be fooling yourself thinking you brought civilisation to these areas. The Umayyad, Abbasids, Mamluks and countless others were there before you. We rebel because that’s what anyone with dignity does under foreign occupation. The Turks are not Arabs and the Arabs are not Turks. Also in the late period of Ottoman history their stagnation and corruption let the Arabs fall under European rule, province by province. Their entrance into WWI, a war that wasn’t theirs, caused Sykes-Picot and the formation of nation states that never existed. The Ottomans caused the divide of the Arabs and they, alongside the western powers, are to blame for the Middle East’s problems.

@shehryarashraf5840

5 жыл бұрын

@Broman liberty and freedom hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. joke of the year

@sandski5174

5 жыл бұрын

@Broman you go ahead and be proud abi. No worries

@thecrow9820

4 жыл бұрын

@Broman All of your sayings is actually false, and that's a propaganda.

Amazing legacy. They have a footstool named after them.

I was confused at the beginning because of the comments. Was the is an EU4 video? 😅

If the Ottomans did colonialism. The whole of Greece, some parts of africa and east europa would speak Turkish. Because we was controlled in the peace this areas 400-500 years

@xernobell7845

4 жыл бұрын

dude even turkey doesn't speak turkish

@emreaydn6381

4 жыл бұрын

@@xernobell7845 what is the main language in Turkey 😂

@xernobell7845

4 жыл бұрын

@@emreaydn6381 i meant to tell u that the ottmans language different from nowadays turkish

@xernobell7845

4 жыл бұрын

@ADGamer not the same the english and the french didn't have a radical changes the turkish was written in an arabic letters

@andreamarino6010

4 жыл бұрын

Western Anatolia, Pontus, Armenian Highlands, Armenia Minor, East Tharce didn't speak turkiah. I guess somehow they colonised

It's an interesting fact that biggest colonies in the new world belonged almost exclusively to the countries with direct Atlantic ocean access. For that matter, not only Ottomans missed the opportunity, so did (by nation, not state) Germans, Russians, Pols and Italians. We might've lived in a totally different world if those powers realised New Worlds potential sooner.

@Castellano97

2 жыл бұрын

The Russians had Alaska and had reached Northern California

@mohammedqasim7147

Жыл бұрын

@@Castellano97 Yeah exactly but to Russia, Alaska was just more vast icy land which they got in abundance so they sold it. They would love to have it now as a deterrence to the US

@Castellano97

Жыл бұрын

@@mohammedqasim7147 is that why they sold it, because it was purely ice? Have you been there yourself?

@mohammedqasim7147

Жыл бұрын

@@Castellano97 Man educate yourself. I was metaphorically speaking. They have vast uninhabited land in Russia, e.g. Siberia they really didn't need more of a similar climate. What would convince Russians to relocate to Alaska instead of Eastern Russia ?

@Castellano97

Жыл бұрын

@@mohammedqasim7147 I can only guess how you “self-educated” yourself 🙄 Lil boy

"disregard for established knowledge" Which knowledge specifically?

One important thing that you seemed to forget is that the Saadi and Alaouite (same as the one still in power today) Dynasties of Morocco fought the Ottomans during 3 centuries. Defeating them many times and never allowing them to reach the Ocean. If the Ottomans had reached the atlantic they wouln’t have had any trouble sending ships to the New World.