WHY DID STRETCH BETRAY FRANKLIN AND LAMAR?

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In this episode, we are going to discuss another street gang in GTA 5 - the Ballas. As you probably remember, recently we have done some research in terms of Grove Street Families in GTA 5, trying to determine why this particular set was erased from existence. And it wasn't easy, to be honest with you. On the other hand, the Ballas in GTA 5 seem to be far more interesting thanks to a bigger amount of clues and threads related to them. What's really surprising is that one particular thread in the storyline became the crucial part of the whole, making us believe that "the purples" are going to become quite successful in eradicating their rivals more efficiently in opposition to Ballas from GTA San Andreas. If you want to learn more, you gotta check out this video 👌
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  • @gta5gangwars819
    @gta5gangwars819 Жыл бұрын

    Rockstar was real lazy with the gang lore in gta5 compared to gta sa.

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, we wouldn't necessarily say that Rockstar North was lazy. We believe that the main reason was three protagonists instead of one. They had to come up with a storyline linking all of them, but at the same time, they couldn't expand all threads of a certain main character extensively because otherwise, the other two guys wouldn't have enough "play time" 🙂

  • @slavicrecycling3053

    @slavicrecycling3053

    Жыл бұрын

    They weren't an essential part of the storyline like in GTA SA

  • @Nameless2719

    @Nameless2719

    Жыл бұрын

    because gang is not the main focus on the story

  • @wavy9181

    @wavy9181

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Nameless2719 exactly lol these fools just be saying anything 😂😂😂

  • @chrisgraham8410

    @chrisgraham8410

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gaminginvestigators there was ALOT of criminal potential there.

  • @donnbaahubali
    @donnbaahubali Жыл бұрын

    Stretch is similar to BIG SMOKE in 3 ways 1. Both betrayed FAMILIES 2. Both started to hang out with Ballas. 3. Both died at the hands of their respective friends

  • @Draelly24

    @Draelly24

    Жыл бұрын

    Stretch was killed by Michael thou

  • @donnbaahubali

    @donnbaahubali

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Draelly24 Franklin ordered Michael to kill Stretch So Stretch indirectly died at the hands of his friend

  • @idialyonhelmjr4373

    @idialyonhelmjr4373

    Жыл бұрын

    @@donnbaahubali wow good stuff i never knew that make me wanna play story mode right now lol

  • @donnbaahubali

    @donnbaahubali

    Жыл бұрын

    @@idialyonhelmjr4373 choose option C

  • @bigbootyenjoyer

    @bigbootyenjoyer

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@donnbaahubali Franklin didnt order it tho Trevor mentioned Stretch in the last mission

  • @briannawilliams411
    @briannawilliams41111 ай бұрын

    Trevor is a fuckin real one, the way franklin was saying, "No we're leaving." And Trevor just completely refused to get fucked over, he knew his shit and stepped up on that shit.

  • @26savage69

    @26savage69

    4 ай бұрын

    Trevor got that dawg in him

  • @TKnHappyNess
    @TKnHappyNess Жыл бұрын

    There is another notable Balla OG in GTA Online called P who helps our character and a Davis OG named Vernon track down a copy of Dre's stolen phone, and even unite for a brief time to deal with the Vagos who have it

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    That's true, HappyNess! 😉

  • @abigails4088

    @abigails4088

    10 ай бұрын

    "Dude called P, a real Balla OG" ...no, Abby hasn't farmed Dre's missions for like 30 mil or more by now XD okay okay, I can't help it they're just so damn FUN. "and ey, whaddaya know, GOLFIN DOES PUT ME IN A BETTER MOOD"

  • @chrisgraham8410
    @chrisgraham8410 Жыл бұрын

    Stretch already hinted that he would consider selling out Franklin and Lamar when he says "But if I gotta hang y'all out to dry, The Families comes first."

  • @blazeblaze420
    @blazeblaze420 Жыл бұрын

    Before strech killed D he told him that he did time with his homies and then D tells him "this isn't about you you know they fucked up" referring to lamar and Franklin as of matter of fact I think some OG in prison most likely told stretch to join them in the top ranks cause the families are no more so for him to join he had to kill Franklin and D and lamar was leverage to get Franklin to drop his guard

  • @keisto

    @keisto

    6 ай бұрын

    you mean “he had to kill lamar and D for Franklin to get drop his guard”** but you’re right

  • @ChrisJamesWasTaken
    @ChrisJamesWasTaken Жыл бұрын

    Didn’t Stretch say something about him talking to the ballas in that mission where Franklin Lamar and stretch got set up

  • @zahirecoates

    @zahirecoates

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes he did , that should have been red flag from beginning

  • @Acordino1

    @Acordino1

    Жыл бұрын

    Wasn’t it that they talked in prison

  • @justsomeguy747

    @justsomeguy747

    Жыл бұрын

    Not really a red flag. The Ballas and the Families were at peace during that time. Besides Stretch is an OG, the Ballas wouldn’t risk killing him during a negotiation because it’ll lead to a war, and Stretch killed D in self defence.

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    That's true, it's very likely one of the hints Franklin noticed when he stopped trusting Stretch 😃

  • @foelife2488

    @foelife2488

    Жыл бұрын

    @@justsomeguy747 Stretch was in the joint so they in peace anyway

  • @Sh0ckV
    @Sh0ckV Жыл бұрын

    Another brilliant Lamar Davis production

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Another brilliant comment, thank you my friend!

  • @yamato126

    @yamato126

    Жыл бұрын

    Wish we coulda been ballas

  • @JudeTheDood
    @JudeTheDood Жыл бұрын

    How was stretch arrested? With handcuffs What was he arrested for? Crimes

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    That's clever 😂

  • @Child-Obliterator9000

    @Child-Obliterator9000

    Жыл бұрын

    🤯

  • @idfk368
    @idfk368 Жыл бұрын

    Correction about South Rancho Ballas: 1. They dont have turf on grove street you only saw them there because any balla set spawns on any balla territory the gta wiki tells you their in lore territory not where they spawn. 2. There is a mission in GTA Online that involves Ballas on Jamestown St in Rancho with Ballas posted up near the Rancho Projects and Lamar explicitly states that that's Ballas Turf so that is most likely where SRB resides. Trust me I had to do my own research for my video I'm working on

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Hello there Epic Gamer! 😃 We've heard that we made some mistakes so let's take a look at them. The first one is connected to South Rancho Ballas. Now, we believe there might be a bit of a misunderstanding. If you check the part where we talk about SRB, we have said the location where we found the Balla member wearing a "Rancho" t-shirt. As for the turf, we did mention beforehand that South Rancho Ballas was named by the gaming community due to this "Rancho" guy and some reports of seeing the Ballas spawning in South Rancho. We hope that now it's more clear that we didn't say that SRB has turf on Grove Street. It wouldn't be even possible considering that we were talking about Original Covenant Ballas controlling Grove Street, so... As for the second thing that you stated, as far as the lore of the game is concerned, we are not taking multiplayer modes into account. The same thing happened during the discussion of GSF from GTA 5 in another video. And yes, you will most likely say that people are adding GTA Online to the canon. Well, we are not, and that's why we exclude GTA Online from the "headcanon". By the way, we have decided to watch your video, and we gotta say it's pretty good! We are guessing that the second part will be devoted to the analysis of Ballas from GTA 5? We hope to see it soon, mate! The only thing that we were struggling with in terms of your analysis was the courier side mission. When we do understand that you might consider side missions canon, it's your choice. And it actually fits perfectly in our point of view on GTA Online not being canon - it's our choice. While many people wouldn't take side missions (or gameplay features in general) into account talking about the storyline and disagree with you, many people wouldn't think that GTA Online is not canon and disagree with us. Still, you definitely proved to us that Ballas from GTA San Andreas were better than "the greens" from GTA San Andreas, no doubt about that 😉

  • @idfk368

    @idfk368

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gaminginvestigators Thanks for the kind words! And yeah in hindsight the courier side mission is a very weak point. Also for clarification the reason why I commented about the mission with Ballas on Rancho is because of the fact that it was a Rockstar Created mission from Lamar to the Protagonist. Shouldve clarified, sorry. And I respect your choice to not have gta online considered in your canon, that place is a mess sometimes.

  • @lillegend_4835

    @lillegend_4835

    Жыл бұрын

    SRB can be found on Roy Lowenstein Blvd. In front of the liquor store

  • @tjmorrs982

    @tjmorrs982

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gaminginvestigators rancho would be considered florence firestone in LA which is ran by F13 however there is 1 black gang called 59ecc at first these two hoods were coo and got along they ended up beefing at that time it was like 10 F13 to 1 ECC so F13 took advantage of that also their was a demographic switch so it became like 90 percent mexican long story short rancho is like 90-95 percent mexican and south rancho ballas would be considered a "defunct" hood

  • @skipthefox4858
    @skipthefox4858 Жыл бұрын

    9:50 very minor mistake In game the Sawmill isn’t actually abandoned. Activity such as workers, logging trucks leaving the mill, and parked cars can still be seen at the mill before and after the mission in freemode

  • @stevengrvp
    @stevengrvp Жыл бұрын

    I like how there were some ties to San Andreas

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, there are many references to 3D universe in GTA 5, but it's worth emphasizing that the game belongs to the other universe 😉

  • @awesomecat458
    @awesomecat458 Жыл бұрын

    Finally gta 2 getting a little more attention, i do hear ez rollers short change in the backround in your videos, thanks man

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    It's our pleasure, friend 🙂

  • @justanotheranimeprofilepic
    @justanotheranimeprofilepic9 ай бұрын

    We actually do partly know why stretch was in jail. He took the blame for some ballas OGs. He says to D "did some time for some of your boys"= I was in prison on behalf of your gang

  • @OnceLivedEgeus

    @OnceLivedEgeus

    Ай бұрын

    No, he says: did some time with some of your folk referring to that he met Ballas in jail

  • @johnfletcheriii4367
    @johnfletcheriii4367 Жыл бұрын

    They needa make a ballas game and a families game like separate

  • @lildee00six

    @lildee00six

    11 ай бұрын

    No cap to characters that started as friends but got split because of the gang war although the whole time they stay friends so we can use the characters swap like in GTA 5

  • @-.-.-.-.-.---.----....-_-
    @-.-.-.-.-.---.----....-_- Жыл бұрын

    Never thought id care abt gangs in Gta but now i do, mad interesting story writing

  • @TopDogAnubis9047
    @TopDogAnubis9047 Жыл бұрын

    The part where Franklin yelled "wtf you done done" got me🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @nocontext400

    @nocontext400

    Жыл бұрын

    .... why? why is that funny? why is that specific thing funny? lol

  • @TopDogAnubis9047

    @TopDogAnubis9047

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nocontext400 maybe it's just funny to me, maybe how he says it🤣

  • @abigails4088

    @abigails4088

    10 ай бұрын

    @@TopDogAnubis9047 oh no, linguistic silliness is DEFINITELY funny... trust me, I'm a deep south Arkansas gal XD get me riled up and listen to my words start to slur, my first girlfriend lost her mind laughing the first time she heard it, lol

  • @TopDogAnubis9047

    @TopDogAnubis9047

    10 ай бұрын

    @@abigails4088 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @eddiejonesiii6254

    @eddiejonesiii6254

    4 ай бұрын

    @@abigails4088 Right! Like in GTA SA where a pedestrian goes "Look what you done did!" XD

  • @Yee.Naaldlooshii
    @Yee.Naaldlooshii Жыл бұрын

    9:46 bro wtf am i looking at? lmao chill out with the modded outfits 😂 good video tho, subbed

  • @bowkatiewow
    @bowkatiewow Жыл бұрын

    Another great vid!

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for still being with us, Katye! 🙂 We really appreciate that 🤘

  • @amarieiantonio-adrian9493
    @amarieiantonio-adrian9493 Жыл бұрын

    Great editing skills ❤

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! 🙂

  • @yousefslimani99
    @yousefslimani99 Жыл бұрын

    Like I said GTA hot topic investigation never seems to end!!

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Only because games from this series are so amazing 😁

  • @yousefslimani99

    @yousefslimani99

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gaminginvestigators Yeah!

  • @justsomeguy747
    @justsomeguy747 Жыл бұрын

    Your theory about Stretch being ordered to kill D is interesting. Still however I don’t think it’s the case and apparently neither does Franklin. I think Stretch killed D in order to protect himself and play both sides. The reason why Stretch tried to have Lamar and Franklin killed is in my opinion because the Ballas asked him to so they’ll take the fall. Your theories about the gangs are interesting, and I agree with the possibility that they wanted to lay low, along with them possibly being weakened by fighting each other and with GTA 5’s Los Santos being diversified criminally. I think it’s possible that the Vagos are more powerful than the Ballas by 2013, because they have control over their set, along with them being directly backed by the Madrazo Cartel. The Madrazo Cartel is Los Santos’ most powerful criminal organisation, rivalled possibly by the Cheng family who are wealthy and have powerful connections.

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    We are happy to hear that, Just! 🙂 We also think that there might be several other reasons for this matter if you ask us. (we even tried to determine those reasons in our video about GSF in GTA 5) And just like you said, the Ballas were supposed to kill Lamar Davis, but Stretch had to make it possible, he was kinda obliged to do this. As for the Vagos, you're probably right, although we are going to discuss this gang in GTA 5 in the future as well 😉 Cheers!

  • @lildee00six

    @lildee00six

    11 ай бұрын

    Not to mention the Ballas being directly in business with the 90’s C.R.A.S.H Unit Got them all arrested on Rico Cases so they took over the jails in San Andreas ever since which forced Stretch to switch up inside or they’d violated him even though in Franklin words they prolly did wen they were arguing

  • @wvpv7812
    @wvpv7812 Жыл бұрын

    That GTA 2 movie brought back so many memories 🥺

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    That's true, GTA 2 still in our heart 🙂

  • @c0a.
    @c0a. Жыл бұрын

    Bruh I just smoke a joint n watching my fav gta channel, great work guysss

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Hello there c0a, good to see you, man! 😃 Thank you so much for your constant support of our channel 🙂

  • @christianfender6499
    @christianfender6499 Жыл бұрын

    One thing is how did the balls make a comeback when CJ took all of them out

  • @FazeRustyNuts

    @FazeRustyNuts

    Жыл бұрын

    because he didn't take all of them out where did you get that information from?

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, there were no problems with that since the Ballas from GTA 5 are not the Ballas from GTA San Andreas.

  • @shariqhasan6220

    @shariqhasan6220

    Жыл бұрын

    GTA 5 takes place in a separate timeline.

  • @abigails4088

    @abigails4088

    10 ай бұрын

    @@shariqhasan6220 A Whole New World...? :3

  • @familygash7500
    @familygash7500 Жыл бұрын

    But Stretch didn't just kill D, he also (along with Lamar and Franklin) actively participated in the shootout with the other Ballas members that immediately followed D's death. If Stretch was really selling them out to The Ballas since he was in prison, then after killing D, why didn't he also kill Lamar and Franklin instead of helping them in the slaughter of other Ballas members? It seems pretty clear that Stretch hadn't been expecting the ambush, and wasn't working with The Ballas at that point. It's most likely that he didn't begin properly betraying Lamar and Franklin until after 'The Long Stretch.' Lamar's idiocy that had put them in that ambush is probably what had motivated Stretch to sell him out, and can you really blame him? Lamar while obviously meaning we'll to Stretch and Franklin is clearly a complete moron.

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    You have raised a very interesting issue, Family Gash! So you wanna know why Stretch didn't try to kill Lamar Davis and Franklin Clinton? Well, we think that he was simply afraid of them. Even though during the cutscenes every character seems just as much vulnerable, Stretch was a real coward. Do you think that the Ballas would leave him alone after killing one of their OGs and some soldiers if he wasn't a traitor? Killing 'D' wasn't only done because Ballas let him do it, but also to prove to Lamar and Franklin that he still sticks with Families. He "made peace" with Ballas while everyone else would be dead already. You mentioned that Stretch seemed to be shocked by the ambush, but we all know that he could have been acting on a purpose. At least that's our point of view 😉 Cheers!

  • @newbiz3496

    @newbiz3496

    Жыл бұрын

    facts, lamar was just in the way so more than likely (in the real world) the balla og came to stretch like we dont want beef we just want lamar, and you know franklin riding with lamar so he gotta go to and we give a piece of the bricks for ya services, and since we all know lamar is hot headed and him and franklin already on some starting they own families shit, stretch did what he felt was needed to keep shit cool nd make money while doing so....its not like lamar and frank was in the mix with the families anyway, they was doing they own thing and they from up the block, they wasnt living in the projects with the rest of the families

  • @billydakid9814

    @billydakid9814

    Жыл бұрын

    Ballas and grove street in prison ride under blacks that why he says that "d my homie, i just did some time with your people" a.. thats how it is in real life .. and Ballas didnt know stretch was there

  • @TheNightGoblin

    @TheNightGoblin

    11 ай бұрын

    @@billydakid9814yea people don’t know that rival gangs become homies in prison 😂😂😂

  • @lildee00six

    @lildee00six

    11 ай бұрын

    @@gaminginvestigatorsthey didn’t let him do it that ambush went wrong when stretch showed face D did expect stretch to b there so Stretch Killed D wen he cop his pleas saying “u kno dese niggas done fucked up” after the whole shootout stretch tol em he gon cross paths wit da Ballas to cover up him lying on them to kill Lamar who he obviously said Killed D instead of telling the truth

  • @DaneNOTDan
    @DaneNOTDan Жыл бұрын

    We need an entire Gang storyline in gta6 in offline and online

  • @slavicfixer8438
    @slavicfixer8438 Жыл бұрын

    You got that right this time about sets and all, good video. Back then I've pointed out some mistake in your GSF video and your viewers called me "salty" (?) or something, when I truly wasn't. Criticism is not a hate. Franklin & Lamar story is imo the most interesting one in GTA V.

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for assuring us about it, Slavic 😅 We hope that new episodes will also be made of the same good quality 😁

  • @slavicvasenin6685
    @slavicvasenin668510 ай бұрын

    I always wanted to know how Ballas managed to occupy Grove Street, as I recall after the end of GTA San Andreas Tenpenny has died and its calm in Los Santos again, but canonically all hostile Los Santos gangs such as Vagos and Ballas are still present in the city. BUt I heard thar Ballas are still in Grove Street because CJ is still has not returned to Los Santos during GTA San Andreas plot and Sweet is still in prison.

  • @bacd-nn2lg
    @bacd-nn2lg Жыл бұрын

    "I'll have two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda."

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Iconic quote 👌

  • @Fusion710
    @Fusion710 Жыл бұрын

    this channel should be so much bigger by now

  • @namenlosNamenlos

    @namenlosNamenlos

    Жыл бұрын

    Share thier videos.

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    It's an honour to us reading such comments 😁

  • @Sh0ckV

    @Sh0ckV

    Жыл бұрын

    @@namenlosNamenlos Are you a sri lankan?

  • @aaronrowell6943
    @aaronrowell6943 Жыл бұрын

    This is interesting I wish it was more factor in the actual game where this is really just all background information and a lot of it seems to come out of nowhere. It'd be one thing if Franklin was just a mission giver but since he's a main character and the whole conflict with him is him wanting to get out of the gang life it'd be nice if they gave a bit more context as to why stretch is obviously betraying them and also makes the ballers look a lot smarter

  • @jimsimpson2820
    @jimsimpson2820 Жыл бұрын

    In GTA SA, I was wondering why after you finish end of the line, there are still so many crack dealers still in the hood? What happened to the crack empire after Smoke dies?

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, considering that Ballas and Vagos still existed, it's no wonder that drug dealers were still present in the neighborhood 🙂

  • @Quetsalcoatvl

    @Quetsalcoatvl

    Жыл бұрын

    Cocaine izahelluva drug..

  • @meek4184

    @meek4184

    Жыл бұрын

    Same rhing that happen in real life somebody jus replaces them

  • @VXGaming
    @VXGaming Жыл бұрын

    Stretch, Snitch.

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    That's the sad truth 🤦‍♂

  • @OnceLivedEgeus

    @OnceLivedEgeus

    2 ай бұрын

    Stretch had no choice homie, it was either (trying to) offering Lamar or offer many many CGF members and go in war with the Ballas.

  • @kklips4926
    @kklips4926 Жыл бұрын

    Coo gta online dlc idea drug wars pt 2 also includes balls moving over to rancho and that would be a sort of map change to make the game feel a bit more fresh

  • @kklips4926

    @kklips4926

    Жыл бұрын

    They could have a whole dlc movie with a countdown the way cod does in war zone

  • @DonnieSham
    @DonnieSham Жыл бұрын

    This the same background music that Hip Hop Daily Uses 😂

  • @moreno8383
    @moreno8383 Жыл бұрын

    5:11 this map is completly wrong WTH 🤣

  • @thegreatxetyr3262
    @thegreatxetyr3262 Жыл бұрын

    maybe stretch betrayed the families because he snitched and probably said that Lamar has a lot of goods and framed him for the death of D instead, he framed Lamar since he was an easy target and maybe the reason they took him hostage is to take the goods from Franklin and ofcourse they know that both of them survived on the first plan so they put them somewhere the cops cant go at the same time where they can do whatever they want, since the cops wont be alerted. The other gangs might have weakened because Ballas took the goods trade to a higher level, bribing cops and making a brotherhood which in turn make them rich and powerful thus no need for gang wars.

  • @lildee00six

    @lildee00six

    11 ай бұрын

    Finally someone that see it right plus the only reason they could pay the cops off is cuz they already been working with em since the 90’s they built a relationship wit cops that’s like the bloods to shit foul play if they not gon at least kill the crooked ones that right their should be a DLC that one wit frank n Lamar was so lame warring over weed

  • @razorsharp9545
    @razorsharp9545 Жыл бұрын

    I never betray Forum Gangstas but certain Balla sets cool with us and certain Families sets dont fuck with us Its basically Families and Ballas vs other Families and Ballas M8v8n

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Good to know, Byron! 😁

  • @razorsharp9545

    @razorsharp9545

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gaminginvestigators another thing im really thinking about taking out certain Ballas from Grove Street so i can bring it back as the Families hood like it was because im originally from there and unite all the original Grove Street members from the hood Some move to DNF, FG, and CGF It just half and half just a mix lingo life

  • @user-hh9dc7hr2w
    @user-hh9dc7hr2w11 ай бұрын

    @5:30 In the mission where you kidnap that rival gang member he mentions how gang symbols can lead to incarceration.. Very many probably have being arrested or killed over the years reducing it mostly to the poverty striken regions and no longer as much in the rest of the city.. It isn't the 90's anymore and just like in real life back in 2014 and still today most have moved passed banners and flags to avoid RICO charges.

  • @JamesJohnson-tr1gu
    @JamesJohnson-tr1gu Жыл бұрын

    By not explaining how Grove Street gang died off, Rockstar has messed up their own gang lore

  • @Jcs1099psn

    @Jcs1099psn

    Жыл бұрын

    They left the hood, they millionaires

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    It seems like Rockstar North wanted to make those gangs just for the sake of them being in GTA San Andreas :/ We doubt that it was a step in the right direction though.

  • @FazeRustyNuts

    @FazeRustyNuts

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@Jcs1099psn or they died

  • @Jcs1099psn

    @Jcs1099psn

    Жыл бұрын

    @@FazeRustyNuts nah, CJ had so many connections already. No point of being in the grove anymore. Pretty sure sweet dumbass got killed tho😂

  • @FazeRustyNuts

    @FazeRustyNuts

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Jcs1099psn true but for all we know CJ himself could be in Jail or on the Run... I mean he did steal a military item worth millions of dollars (that damn jetpack) it would make sense for the government to be after him

  • @captainskelly2047
    @captainskelly2047 Жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @Zuko597
    @Zuko597 Жыл бұрын

    Stretch put the work on D because it was mandatory because that’s what got them in the situation or part of it the other part was when stretch set up Lamar because he thought it was a dumb move for lamar to go back there and do the deal with someone he just started beef with lamar was so focused on being gangster for the fun of it rlly it was never about making it out instead of making them stronger lamar in a way did weaken the families.

  • @lildee00six

    @lildee00six

    11 ай бұрын

    And it’s always been them type of niggas in the families like Ryder gangs period it’s shows the Oxymorons in them like the Families r Crips n bloods in one just like the Ballas but Ballas have more of the Blood aspect wen it comes to working with cops, going to the industry and clicking up wit everyone except the families/Crips because of the damage they’ve done to each other considering they killed Sweets n Cj mom they decided to stand on it instead of owning up to it cuz both sides gang bang anyway

  • @iceYoni
    @iceYoni Жыл бұрын

    You seem to know what you're talking about. This ones for the algorithms 👍

  • @brahdrick4093
    @brahdrick4093 Жыл бұрын

    This why in my mind I make Franklin set the last original ogf set

  • @cho5guoyncractedr6iery94
    @cho5guoyncractedr6iery94 Жыл бұрын

    Was that G Unit on his shorts I know I wasn't the only one noticed

  • @camtimmy9905
    @camtimmy990511 ай бұрын

    These mods are sick I want them 😂

  • @MasterTemplar781
    @MasterTemplar7819 ай бұрын

    I think it's very possible that the LSPD are decreasing gang activity. Bc when Trevor talksto Lamar and says something like "so do i need to wear green now" or something similiar Lamar replies saying that families ain't really wearing too much green anymore bc that would reveal they are gang members and that the police would not take that too kindly and would arrest them. And when we kidnap D. D says "hey ain't there some law against you mask wearing fools." with Lamar saying "oh yeah you gonna snitch on us or something". So showing any sign of being a gang member is now against the law and could get you arrested. That could be why they have so little territory.

  • @nawazeeshali4340
    @nawazeeshali4340 Жыл бұрын

    Can you do a game analysis on Chop XD? My most fav virtual dog ❤️

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Game analysis of Chop? 😆 We are afraid that it might be not much to talk about 😅

  • @nawazeeshali4340

    @nawazeeshali4340

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gaminginvestigators lol yeah it will be barking, XD, Thank you for your consideration

  • @skylineXpert
    @skylineXpert11 ай бұрын

    Idea for next video: why did we never get GTA San Andreas Stories?

  • @TrymYoutubeMainChannel
    @TrymYoutubeMainChannel Жыл бұрын

    It's hard to find Idlewood (Inglewood) in GTA 5

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, that's because there's no Idlewood in GTA 5 😃

  • @TrymYoutubeMainChannel

    @TrymYoutubeMainChannel

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gaminginvestigators well yeah I know but if you use your imagination you can find out where it would be if you remember the area driving out of grove street towards Davis if you understand my thinking, ofc it may not be in the game as official location but the placement for it

  • @MiikeZombiie
    @MiikeZombiie Жыл бұрын

    Teeeechnically they are in different universes as gta sa is the 3D universe and V Is in the HD universe. That's sadly why we probably won't hear anything about Tommy in GTA VI 🥺RIP RAY LIOTTA 🙏

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, it won't be that bad. We can always get a few references to Tommy Vercetti 😉 It will be the same case as we got many references to CJ in GTA 5 😁

  • @DanielSantana-wq4im
    @DanielSantana-wq4im Жыл бұрын

    how did the Ballers to grow straight down

  • @teewooshit
    @teewooshit Жыл бұрын

    Is your gameplay mods or New Gen Graphics?

  • @budsceeuwc4188
    @budsceeuwc418811 ай бұрын

    Why don’t the gangs attack when they see rival members like in SA. The gangs only attack Franklin 😂

  • @jamorijohnson603
    @jamorijohnson603 Жыл бұрын

    Stretch was a family gang member but he was a OG he sabotaged Franklin and Lamar because he was locked up with the ballers so he made peace with them secondly stretch set up Lamar because they wouldn't respect him as an OG they didn't look up to him as a OG like as in Grove Street that's why I Grove Street fell apart they old geez became ballers the families is a strong gang in reality. The baller is just a strong game too. The families is not going to disappear but the sex might evolve and turn into other newer sets. Besides Franklin and Lamar got their own set which is formun drive families. He could have did majority of his research by going to the actors on The game so you can play as different characters there is a set called South rancho ballas East side ballers original Corvette baller those are the set. Move the family's got Carson avenue chamberlin Hill Davis former drive families. So in comparison there are more family sets than ballers

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this extensive comment! You mentioned that Grove Street fell apart because of OGs joining Ballas. Certainly, it is a possibility from what we saw in Stretch's case. However, we wouldn't necessarily say that it was the only reason, it could be one of the key ones, but besides this, many different things could influence this event. As for the rest, we are assuming that you are summarizing what we presented? Please, next time try to use more commas and full stops, it would be helpful in terms of reading your comment! 🙂

  • @jedipadwan20
    @jedipadwan20 Жыл бұрын

    The only question is what happened to grove street set of families and was the families started as grove street family and grew into the families?

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, if you are wondering what happened to GSF in GTA 5, this video might be helpful 😉 -> kzread.info/dash/bejne/iqpqm7ubcteXecY.html

  • @jedipadwan20

    @jedipadwan20

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gaminginvestigators the only actual question I have is did the Families start out as GSF or were they around before GSF?

  • @daviscameron713

    @daviscameron713

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jedipadwan20 Grove St is the original set of the families. Families is the actual gang name

  • @moreno8383
    @moreno8383 Жыл бұрын

    The gang called "The Families" and not Grove street ( it just set of the Families Gang)

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, we know 😜

  • @moreno8383

    @moreno8383

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gaminginvestigators in previous videosbyou always said Grove street instead of Families, even your title was grove street. Thats why i said it

  • @cool_sakib
    @cool_sakib Жыл бұрын

    hey can u explain what was Truth looking for in mission "Wear flowers in your hair" ? As he ordered CJ to first drive to San Fierro Medical center and stalk some guys who was into van and then again ordered CJ to head over to Police Department building San Fierro and looking for that van or kinda Can u plz explain this theory...wht its reference ?

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Hello, Cool Sakib! 😁 Answering your question shortly, what The Truth was doing is very likely connected to the government theories 😉 We recommend you watch our video about The Truths and Toreno's conspiracy theories which might hint at this answer 🙂 We didn't mention the vans there, but we believe that it could be related to the government taking control of people's minds and so on. Here's the link -> kzread.info/dash/bejne/pZycw8aCodqplrQ.html

  • @cool_sakib

    @cool_sakib

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gaminginvestigators Yep, it could be related to secret government actions. But in future if u got any more specific explaination or theory regarding this, do post it.

  • @LSTORMTheMC

    @LSTORMTheMC

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I've always wondered as well. Truth was a little aggressive towards CJ in that car😲

  • @AH-is5yg
    @AH-is5yg Жыл бұрын

    it shows how weak Sweet was

  • @rockfresh5359
    @rockfresh53596 ай бұрын

    That gang map is unrealistic too I believe gangs territory should be like San Andreas with gangs mixed up instead of one big spot on the map

  • @user-mw9nn6gr6v
    @user-mw9nn6gr6v Жыл бұрын

    Every time im going to grove street to fight the ballas they always shoot me and i end up in a 13v1 but in families when i pull out a knife they start running.Families have become weak bro

  • @antoniobrown411
    @antoniobrown411 Жыл бұрын

    stretch killed D cus he was finna get caught

  • @bluesosa3224
    @bluesosa3224 Жыл бұрын

    COOL MODS 🤔

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Link are in the description. There are channels which use these mods so you can ask for the names of these mods :)

  • @erikelweskiold5112
    @erikelweskiold5112 Жыл бұрын

    Are these expanded and enchanced grafics?

  • @harry-xk4wc
    @harry-xk4wc10 ай бұрын

    When the ballas and familys were in the graveyard i saw ryder

  • @ericardyyahya8625
    @ericardyyahya86252 ай бұрын

    actually , from Stretch in the prison , he already betray the families and side with Ballas . the only reason he meet Lamar because he was a spy from Ballas which he come to infiltrate anyone and try to make Lamar and Franklin stab each other . that idiots actually set up those best friend in Ballas with hope they killed immediately , because Stretch Killed D to make franklin and Lamar believe he still an Families OG , his first plan is ruined so he need to make a second one , then Drug Setup , same as before , Stretch hope Franklin and Lamar die when deal gone wrong , but thanks to Trevor who joined those two best friend , Stretch plan ruined again . then he make Lamar get betrayed by Ballas when doing a weed deal and it turned out a big success on Stretch , because Stretch and manipulate Lamar to believe Franklin is Disloyal to him . somehow , his planned is success but once again , he had to eat the pill because franklin and his two mentor rescue Lamar from Snake Stretch . this make him realize that no matter Lamar get set up by him , he always get the bad luck here. so he believe he was an OG Ballas because no one can stop him now. his demise soon show up when Michael send Ballas a huge message about his crime and action by killing Stretch.

  • @raeesurrahmanansari3062
    @raeesurrahmanansari3062 Жыл бұрын

    everyone should ask rockstar to make a trilogy of gta 1 2 and chinatown wars with good graphics and if not good then we are also happy the original gta 3 like graphics but i want to play these games in 3d until i w8 for gta6 plz like if u agree and convey this message to the rockstar team. paste this comment on there community tabs if you want these three games to be modified

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    That would be awesome! But sadly we doubt that Rockstar will ever decide to do something like this :/

  • @raeesurrahmanansari3062

    @raeesurrahmanansari3062

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gaminginvestigators but we should at least try to reach them so that they knew what the fans really want and then we should let them take the final decision but atleast we should try as a gta fan

  • @Handheld_Handle

    @Handheld_Handle

    Жыл бұрын

    I think GTA 1, London and 2 will be cool but I also think Chinatown Wars itself is already good (talking about CTW Mobile)

  • @raeesurrahmanansari3062

    @raeesurrahmanansari3062

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Handheld_Handle you might be right about ctw but it is for the gamers of this generation that found it hard on 2d graphics thats why there are so many who may want ctw along with gta 1 and 2 in 3d why dont we have a poll on this channel and let the people speak their mind that whether they want these 3 games on 3d or not and if they do ask everyone of them to deliver this messege to rockstar and see what they can do

  • @liamrivera1514
    @liamrivera1514 Жыл бұрын

    How the heck does it look so good tho…. Is this the ps5 version

  • @LeonFortniteKennedy95

    @LeonFortniteKennedy95

    Жыл бұрын

    Mods on PC

  • @lildee00six
    @lildee00six11 ай бұрын

    10:40 MAAAAN😂😂😂 anybody notice how he say “Relationships with the Ballas” and put that purple color? From inside jail u kno what that mean and Franklin hinted it wen him n stretch were arguing

  • @keisto

    @keisto

    6 ай бұрын

    stretch got stretched in jail man 😂

  • @rockfresh5359
    @rockfresh53596 ай бұрын

    They're based off the bloods and crips so most gangs been around since the 60's but new sets pop up and old set go extinct from war & prison each generation I would apply the same logic to families and ballas

  • @slycoop8736
    @slycoop87369 ай бұрын

    Rancho Ballas are on Mc Donald's street Court House? That's where they be@ Most of the Time?

  • @donnbaahubali
    @donnbaahubali Жыл бұрын

    BAllas gang is the reason we have GTA SAN ANDREAS BUT I don't see the importance of Ballas Gang in GTA V What do you say about it??

  • @idialyonhelmjr4373

    @idialyonhelmjr4373

    Жыл бұрын

    Yea bcuz the ballas killed cj mother so i get it but on 5 the ballas still are involved in certain missions not much of an importantance really

  • @AnTunZee

    @AnTunZee

    Жыл бұрын

    I usually kill all the ballas and take back the grove when I get on regardless if it online or offline. Then I go about my business 😊

  • @idialyonhelmjr4373

    @idialyonhelmjr4373

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AnTunZee 😂😂 likewise i just rev the engine or honk the horn they get pissed off by that or talk shit with Franklin 💀

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, we would probably say that they are important to Franklin and it does matter. Even though the Ballas from GTA 5 are not present in the storyline as much as Ballas from GTA San Andreas, we can't say that they are irrelevant. It's probably due to having three protagonists instead of one. 🙂

  • @HypersniperTV
    @HypersniperTV Жыл бұрын

    Tbh stretch looks like a trader too bad Lamar ain't see it till it was too late

  • @sokowirowka2965
    @sokowirowka29657 ай бұрын

    CGF 4 life

  • @Raylarious
    @Raylarious Жыл бұрын

    Holy shyt you see franklins drip!? Lol u upping the pole in fashion b

  • @Operations199
    @Operations199 Жыл бұрын

    TWO NUMBER 9'S

  • @kontoznawzastudios17
    @kontoznawzastudios178 ай бұрын

    00:30 song name?

  • @865354hayden
    @865354hayden Жыл бұрын

    ballas formed in the 70s

  • @nicolasbouchard6331
    @nicolasbouchard63314 ай бұрын

    So stretch didn't sell out the gang. He's got a problems with lamar and Franklin's set within the gang and their actions since they dont pay a tax and constantly cause troubles (he's not wrong tbh) he wanted peace with the ballas and more control over the families witch made him bump head with Franklin. The ballas wanted revenge on lamar and he wanted Franklin gone since he's wasn't giving him respect.

  • @DrizzyNG
    @DrizzyNG3 ай бұрын

    The ballas were founded in the 1970s

  • @thatscandinavianguy841
    @thatscandinavianguy841 Жыл бұрын

    Just like in real life

  • @Hemingway5000
    @Hemingway500010 ай бұрын

    Rancho ballers hang out around a liqour store in west rancho on the border of davis

  • @AD-yv6gt
    @AD-yv6gt Жыл бұрын

    This is bettter then gangland!!

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Hell yeah! 🤘

  • @LenonArnoso
    @LenonArnoso Жыл бұрын

    Graphics mod?

  • @tsvxricky2116
    @tsvxricky2116 Жыл бұрын

    Aye bro this should be an update

  • @tsvxricky2116

    @tsvxricky2116

    Жыл бұрын

    It'll be like gta San Andreas in real life but better wars and graphics. Plus you can sell weed in it.

  • @tsvxricky2116

    @tsvxricky2116

    Жыл бұрын

    But in story mode

  • @codyjames715
    @codyjames715 Жыл бұрын

    They wouldnt kill Dee, and replace him with Stretch as their leader... Stretch is just a snake.

  • @keisto

    @keisto

    6 ай бұрын

    stretch would’ve gotten setup up as well and definitely took over

  • @toocharged
    @toocharged Жыл бұрын

    So corny bro that white guy andric who's posting on the gta 5 Web is meant to be a joke not an actual member 😂

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Is that so? 😃

  • @sagarujjainwal7292
    @sagarujjainwal7292 Жыл бұрын

    Bro i just loved clapping ballas in grove street in GTA 5

  • @ralphkashiwagi9058
    @ralphkashiwagi9058 Жыл бұрын

    Hi

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Hello :)

  • @AHVENAN
    @AHVENAN Жыл бұрын

    What wierd ass version of the game was all this footage taken from?

  • @sugoma6741
    @sugoma6741 Жыл бұрын

    I terroize the ballas on grove st every time I load up the game

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Good for you! Families 4 Life 🤘

  • @Bigwes91
    @Bigwes9123 күн бұрын

    5:15 that map is all wrong lol

  • @joshuameredith6459
    @joshuameredith6459 Жыл бұрын

    You know you didn’t have to keep saying ballas.

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, that's why we mentioned "the purples" from time to time 😉

  • @NikolyaPlayer2008
    @NikolyaPlayer2008 Жыл бұрын

    wth are these mods, is that gta v "the definitive edition"?

  • @louisnapolitano
    @louisnapolitano Жыл бұрын

    Ballas are different gang as it's in a different universe

  • @grumbazor

    @grumbazor

    Жыл бұрын

    i dont share this point of view. Because its just too simple

  • @jabroni7706

    @jabroni7706

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s such an easy and uncreative cop out

  • @gaminginvestigators

    @gaminginvestigators

    Жыл бұрын

    Sure thing, we were discussing Ballas from GTA 5, not from GTA San Andreas.

  • @skullyskaric7779
    @skullyskaric7779 Жыл бұрын

    balla's are a complete joke i mean..they sure rich as hell but they quite dumb to get themselfs as death sentence. atleast always stick to angels of death (tho i picked the name from gta 4 thought it look cooler in gta online my friend tittled in it tho from gta 4) just hope rockstar games didn't banned users for using the legend gangs name from it.

  • @yousefslimani99
    @yousefslimani99 Жыл бұрын

    5th comment!

  • @john_cena420
    @john_cena4208 ай бұрын

    In 3 words grove steer lost cause CJ LEAVE IT

  • @xAdorNexasYT
    @xAdorNexasYT Жыл бұрын

    I'm just going to say it. GTA V sucked eggs. Good premise but absolutely failed in the execution. Heist game with 5 heists. They should have focused on Franklin and the gang shit.

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