Why did Iran fall so quickly in WW2? (Short Animated Documentary)

When Iran was invaded during World War 2 by the British and Soviets it only lasted for only 6 days. But given that Iran is a large, mountainous country, why did it fall so quickly? To find out watch this short and simple animated history documentary.
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  • @gegecry
    @gegecry2 ай бұрын

    ITS COMPLITED: Denmark: Fell in 6 hours Iran: Fell in 6 days France: Fell in 6 weeks Greece: Fell in 6 months Germany: Fell in 6 years.

  • @EEEEEEEE

    @EEEEEEEE

    2 ай бұрын

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  • @gamemasterultima

    @gamemasterultima

    2 ай бұрын

    Don’t forget about Pavlov house

  • @PatrioteQuebecois

    @PatrioteQuebecois

    2 ай бұрын

    It's actually 8 weeks for Greece, but France killed the most enemies, 200K, during the invasion of its country.

  • @kylehart643

    @kylehart643

    2 ай бұрын

    I wonder if there will be 6 centuries 🤔

  • @gegecry

    @gegecry

    2 ай бұрын

    @@PatrioteQuebecois it was actually 216 days if you Count from the italian Invasion

  • @sthgamer_
    @sthgamer_2 ай бұрын

    That "Fun Fact, no" never gets old.

  • @nosoupforyou8202

    @nosoupforyou8202

    2 ай бұрын

    Imagine he say "Fun Fact, yes" instead

  • @XDrang93

    @XDrang93

    2 ай бұрын

    I noticed more of a pause before he said "no" in recent uploads.

  • @outerspace7391

    @outerspace7391

    2 ай бұрын

    Your pfp does tho

  • @sthgamer_

    @sthgamer_

    2 ай бұрын

    @outerspace7391 i have literally nothing to put as a pfp so I just put a flag cuh

  • @outerspace7391

    @outerspace7391

    2 ай бұрын

    @@sthgamer_ why not put your national flag then, unless you're from Ukraine Regardless, you don't have to put a pfp necessarily

  • @mjjoe76
    @mjjoe762 ай бұрын

    Denmark happy that Iran is getting the attention.

  • @salazar778

    @salazar778

    2 ай бұрын

    6 days or 6 hours

  • @elfinkenshi6437

    @elfinkenshi6437

    2 ай бұрын

    @@salazar778 size matters

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    2 ай бұрын

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  • @seneca983

    @seneca983

    2 ай бұрын

    @@elfinkenshi6437 Though I think Luxembourg lasted longer than Denmark.

  • @lucasneila4775

    @lucasneila4775

    2 ай бұрын

    France too, believe me

  • @timmccarthy9917
    @timmccarthy99172 ай бұрын

    "How did you respond when the British invaded?" "I ran"

  • @Mak2007a

    @Mak2007a

    2 ай бұрын

    I ran so far awaaay

  • @bumpermanthesecond615

    @bumpermanthesecond615

    2 ай бұрын

    ba dum tssh

  • @RonJohn63

    @RonJohn63

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Mak2007a and didn't get away.

  • @ecurewitz

    @ecurewitz

    2 ай бұрын

    So far away

  • @ecurewitz

    @ecurewitz

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Mak2007abeat me to it

  • @alastairward2774
    @alastairward27742 ай бұрын

    I clicked so quickly Iran hadn't even a chance to fall.

  • @genovayork2468

    @genovayork2468

    2 ай бұрын

    *didn't even have.

  • @mitsuriji

    @mitsuriji

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@genovayork2468what he said makes sense

  • @Ayte69

    @Ayte69

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@genovayork2468may sound stupid but pretty sure it's correct English

  • @genovayork2468

    @genovayork2468

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Ayte69 It's not, negative Past Simple is "did not" + Infinitive. Lmao, what are you on?

  • @Ayte69

    @Ayte69

    2 ай бұрын

    @@genovayork2468 you see it a lot in literature "[Person] hadn't a clue"

  • @T.GLongstaff
    @T.GLongstaff2 ай бұрын

    2:02 the happiness of the British and soviet soldiers at the idea of free puppies really warms my heart

  • @ArmoryMedia

    @ArmoryMedia

    2 ай бұрын

    The Canadians be like, "That's actually a good plan, eh?"

  • @Guns_Blazin
    @Guns_Blazin2 ай бұрын

    “I’m fast as fuck boi” is actually a valid military strategy

  • @EEEEEEEE

    @EEEEEEEE

    2 ай бұрын

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  • @L_back

    @L_back

    2 ай бұрын

    That’s what Russia used when fighting against Napoleon’s invasion

  • @encycl07pedia-

    @encycl07pedia-

    2 ай бұрын

    You need a comma before "boi."

  • @mybodyisamachine

    @mybodyisamachine

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@encycl07pedia- 🤓

  • @TheNotFakeBot212

    @TheNotFakeBot212

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@encycl07pedia-no time for commas, gotta go fast.

  • @Dachshund-br8pj
    @Dachshund-br8pj2 ай бұрын

    My great uncle (by marriage) spent the war securing the rail lines through Iran supplying the USSR. The Soviets gave him a minor medal as thanks while things were still friendly. Apparently this resulted in him getting regular suspicion from the government back home in the states during the cold war.

  • @mjjoe76

    @mjjoe76

    2 ай бұрын

    That happened a lot. Frank Sinatra was accused of having communist sympathies because he starred in a short film _during the war_ that promoted ideas like working together with different people and not discriminating based on ethnicity.

  • @danreyn

    @danreyn

    2 ай бұрын

    @@offroadguy7772 Fun fact.... No... -body cares

  • @bweaddss

    @bweaddss

    Ай бұрын

    @@danreynNo-body was a gay

  • @ragnarulrichson778

    @ragnarulrichson778

    Ай бұрын

    @@danreyn if his post made you reply, you obviously do.

  • @greywolf7577

    @greywolf7577

    Ай бұрын

    I think the idea is that he didn't like people hating gays for no reason.@@ragnarulrichson778

  • @cdcdrr
    @cdcdrr2 ай бұрын

    Britain: Give us access to your country. Iran: No, we're neutral and independent. Britain: Well actually, no.

  • @Houthiandtheblowfish

    @Houthiandtheblowfish

    2 ай бұрын

    during this invasion you can also talk about british infused persian holocaust famine ww1 ww2 which halfed the population from 20 milion to 10 million and alongside polish refuges coming to iran meanwhile during ww2

  • @dwaynehicks6838

    @dwaynehicks6838

    2 ай бұрын

    Fun fact , no .​@@Houthiandtheblowfish

  • @Finnbobjimbob

    @Finnbobjimbob

    2 ай бұрын

    @@HouthiandtheblowfishNope

  • @MohammedAli-hl4mr

    @MohammedAli-hl4mr

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@Houthiandtheblowfishsad but true

  • @neshirst-ashuach1881

    @neshirst-ashuach1881

    2 ай бұрын

    Source? Because from what I know the death toll was estimated as being very low, with Britain and the USSR supplying food. 10 million dead is an absolutely insane number. Its totally not plausible.

  • @ViktorCZ42
    @ViktorCZ422 ай бұрын

    1:08 that Denmark soldier 😆

  • @TheFrenchClipper

    @TheFrenchClipper

    2 ай бұрын

    I think you spelled "Danish" wrong Jokes aside, awesome spotting - i could never notice in a million years, cheers to you mate!

  • @royale7620

    @royale7620

    2 ай бұрын

    Danish* grammar kid, grammar

  • @dastardlyruby74737

    @dastardlyruby74737

    2 ай бұрын

    @@royale7620his grammar could be better but you ain’t gotta call him a kid

  • @dastardlyruby74737

    @dastardlyruby74737

    2 ай бұрын

    @@royale7620 kid mckid is crazy💀💀 cuz you ain’t finna talk to me like that built like an underprivileged possum

  • @dastardlyruby74737

    @dastardlyruby74737

    2 ай бұрын

    @@royale7620 mckid💀

  • @mohamedfaizan9844
    @mohamedfaizan98442 ай бұрын

    How many noticed the “HMS Fish and Ships” on the British naval officer’s cap? Priceless!

  • @boobah5643

    @boobah5643

    2 ай бұрын

    I just noticed the "HMS _Buoy Buoy Buoy"_ on the seaman's hat.

  • @malumphasma

    @malumphasma

    2 ай бұрын

    Seems like he always puts little Easter eggs in this videos. I quite enjoy finding them all myself.

  • @r.a.acosta6528
    @r.a.acosta65282 ай бұрын

    I like how every correspondence, whether it is a declaration of war, a letter of surrender, etc. Closes with the friendly phrase "Best Wishes."

  • @louisduarte8763

    @louisduarte8763

    2 ай бұрын

    That's just being polite.

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory2 ай бұрын

    I love how you always answer the questions we were never asking but needed to know

  • @EEEEEEEE

    @EEEEEEEE

    2 ай бұрын

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  • @santi0501

    @santi0501

    2 ай бұрын

    Hi

  • @micahistory

    @micahistory

    2 ай бұрын

    bro no way@@santi0501

  • @JimmyAgent007
    @JimmyAgent0072 ай бұрын

    Does the "Fun Fact, No" bit ever get old? Fun Fact, No

  • @mahieuwim

    @mahieuwim

    2 ай бұрын

    Well... [Picture of a well]

  • @zombieranger3410

    @zombieranger3410

    2 ай бұрын

    Me describing someone doing a nice thing: Said person skipping around in a field of flowers

  • @malumphasma

    @malumphasma

    2 ай бұрын

    I've always loved the way he's narrated this and the animations he uses. There's almost always something in the background if you look closer as well

  • @dohanddonuts5716

    @dohanddonuts5716

    2 ай бұрын

    And... Napoleon.

  • @TweekLudwig

    @TweekLudwig

    2 ай бұрын

    The Fez Wearing Italian Man

  • @Asamio
    @Asamio2 ай бұрын

    I am a simple iranian I see history matters make a video on my country I immediately click

  • @amp3661

    @amp3661

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah,me too.

  • @TorreFLoeckx
    @TorreFLoeckx2 ай бұрын

    Denmark be like: "First time for you guys?"

  • @EEEEEEEE

    @EEEEEEEE

    2 ай бұрын

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  • @derrickthewhite1

    @derrickthewhite1

    2 ай бұрын

    He didn't mention it, but it wasn't the first time. A much more involved set of battle was fought in WWI, in which a member of the central powers (the ottomans) was actually around to contest British and Russian Forces. Iran had been divided into "spheres of influence" back in 1907, and even then was in no position to resist. The British possessed a huge amount of infrastructure in southern Iran. So when wwi came, the british said "lets just acknowledge that we own this." and the shah said no, and Britain demonstrated who had better control of the area.

  • @tacolordc

    @tacolordc

    2 ай бұрын

    @@derrickthewhite1something tells me that you didn’t get the joke

  • @mikearmstrong8483

    @mikearmstrong8483

    Ай бұрын

    Check out his video on "Why Belgium Exists". Among the country's varied assets are "easy access to panzer divisions ".

  • @Carewolf

    @Carewolf

    Ай бұрын

    Denmark has only been invaded twice, and the first time took the coldest winter in history to completely freeze over the Danish straits so Sweden could just invade over the ice.

  • @SirAntoniousBlock
    @SirAntoniousBlock2 ай бұрын

    UK & USSR at Nuremberg: We accuse Germany of unprovoked aggression. Iran: 😑

  • @cowfat8547

    @cowfat8547

    2 ай бұрын

    it wasn’t unprovoked aggression. Iran was not truly neutral with how much they were trading with the Germans. This was a war of survival, Germany’s supply had to be cut off.

  • @sh534

    @sh534

    2 ай бұрын

    that still doesn't justify it. Switzerland's trading and selling weapons to Germany was not neutral yet everyone considered it as natural. Just because Iran isn't a western country and not European they easily justify it. Also, none of those countries paid reoperation after the war for invading a neutral country.

  • @potato_nugget

    @potato_nugget

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@cowfat8547"How dare you trade with other countries?" trading with both sides of a war is literally what neutrality is.

  • @chelseafolk

    @chelseafolk

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@potato_nugget no, that is not what neutrality is.

  • @chelseafolk

    @chelseafolk

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@sh534 Switzerland borders Germany and just was trying to avoid occupation. That's the only reason it was given a free pass. Also would have been harder for the Allies to occupy switzerland. Sweden also continued trading with Germany during the war. Close countries just aren't on the way to India or oil reserves

  • @Vic2_over_Vic3
    @Vic2_over_Vic32 ай бұрын

    One of the less known surprise attacks in WW2.

  • @louisduarte8763

    @louisduarte8763

    2 ай бұрын

    So surprising, I didn't know it happened at all, almost 80 years later.

  • @relix7373

    @relix7373

    2 ай бұрын

    Well it makes the Allies look bad so it's probably not discussed much

  • @kieragard

    @kieragard

    Ай бұрын

    Six days isn't even a battle. It's literally the time a tourist spend sightseeing🤣

  • @JA432123
    @JA4321232 ай бұрын

    I had no idea that this conflict even happened… thanks History Matters!

  • @MatthewTheWanderer

    @MatthewTheWanderer

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I always thought Iran was neutral in World War II and never heard of this invasion!

  • @aAverageFan

    @aAverageFan

    2 ай бұрын

    The Allies don't want you to know about such events

  • @MatthewTheWanderer

    @MatthewTheWanderer

    2 ай бұрын

    @@aAverageFan That's idiotic! Go away with your paranoid delusional conspiracy nonsense!

  • @thealmightyaku-4153

    @thealmightyaku-4153

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@aAverageFan About what? Invading & crushing a defacto ally of the Nazis? They were so easy to defeat that the conflict is hardly worth mentioning, & the Shah was on the wrong side, so fuck 'im.

  • @fiorinopizio4554

    @fiorinopizio4554

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@aAverageFani am pretty sure that british journals told about this at the time

  • @CommanderTavos99
    @CommanderTavos992 ай бұрын

    As a German ... we can beat that Speedrun!

  • @cultural-and-historical

    @cultural-and-historical

    2 ай бұрын

    As a Dane... screw you!

  • @TheWolverine01

    @TheWolverine01

    2 ай бұрын

    Denmark was in 6 hours i think

  • @wasdkug_tr

    @wasdkug_tr

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@TheWolverine01 Yep, some Danes was asleep and 6 hours later they woke up in Germany

  • @Tommuli_Haudankaivaja

    @Tommuli_Haudankaivaja

    2 ай бұрын

    @@wasdkug_tr Technically not, since the Danish goverment was still operating in Denmark. It became a protectorate, not a part of Germany.

  • @BOZ_11

    @BOZ_11

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Tommuli_Haudankaivaja splitting hairs.

  • @rezatavakoli592
    @rezatavakoli5922 ай бұрын

    some not so fun fact result of invasion : Iranian famine of 1942-1943 "State Department population figures for 1941 (15 million) and 1944 (10-12 million)"

  • @cowfat8547

    @cowfat8547

    2 ай бұрын

    not a direct result of the invasion. it was a bad harvest, would have happened regardless. the only matter of question is whether it would have been worse or not as bad had the invasion not happened

  • @rezatavakoli592

    @rezatavakoli592

    2 ай бұрын

    @@cowfat8547 if Wikipedia writer right about this , it's say mainly allies was responsible about food shortage GB take control of railroad system and keep feeding their soldiers soviets for taking 50 percent of grain from Azerbaijan province monarch not having viable replacement for time like this from wikipedia "Shortages affected Iran most severely, and an unseemly blame game ensued as to who was responsible. The British blamed incompetent Iranian distribution, the Americans blamed the callous British as well as bungling Iranians and the Iranians blamed all three allies. There was some truth to the positions of all sides. The bottom line was that the allies were directly responsible for wheat shortages. Article 7 of the Treaty of Alliance that legitimised the occupation required Britain and the Soviet Union to protect the Iranian people against the "privations and difficulties" of the war. But invasion and the shah's subsequent abdication destroyed Iran's old political and economic structures and failed to provide a viable replacement. The occupiers purchased or confiscated large amounts of Iranian food, and the food requirements of the 100,000 plus allied soldiers garrisoned and working in Iran were only partially met from outside. Tehran’s major source of wheat was Azerbaijan, yet Soviet officials acquired 50 per cent of their grain needs from the province, allowing only 300 tons of Azerbaijani wheat to be shipped to Tehran from March 1942 to March 1943. In addition, Soviet occupation policies caused 200,000 Iranians to flee to Tehran, swelling its population and food needs by 37 per cent."

  • @Rayitolaser569

    @Rayitolaser569

    Ай бұрын

    @@cowfat8547 Check your data again, the food distributation capabilities had been reduced like a 75% because britain and USSR occupied half the country and stole all it's resources (including trains and other mediums of transport, which were used to distribute food)

  • @arshiaarjomandi6279

    @arshiaarjomandi6279

    Ай бұрын

    @cowfat8547 There was no "bad harvest" the Allies literally seized most of the farmers crops! He's exaggerating the death toll to a ridiculous degree, but you- you're spreading misinformation!

  • @rezatavakoli592

    @rezatavakoli592

    Ай бұрын

    @@arshiaarjomandi6279 "He's exaggerating the death toll to a ridiculous degree" not me just copy past from Wikipedia that's why i put it in marker (this " ") and exaggerating is big word because my grandfather experience it in first hand he suvive at mercy of baker other long relative of mine in Hamedan saw people in neighborhood eating a kid to survive

  • @mrmr446
    @mrmr4462 ай бұрын

    Invasion and occupation also came with a side serving of famine which wasn't very popular.

  • @Houthiandtheblowfish

    @Houthiandtheblowfish

    2 ай бұрын

    during this invasion you can also talk about british infused persian holocaust famine ww1 ww2 which halfed the population from 20 milion to 10 million and alongside polish refuges coming to iran meanwhile during ww2 and installed autocrat dictator with its own cia

  • @niono1587

    @niono1587

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Houthiandtheblowfish sauce

  • @MohammedAli-hl4mr

    @MohammedAli-hl4mr

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@niono1587you mean source?

  • @alexaagerger3695

    @alexaagerger3695

    2 ай бұрын

    @@niono1587this is literally basic information. whip google out

  • @MrBannystar

    @MrBannystar

    2 ай бұрын

    @@niono1587 He keeps spamming multiple threads with the same stupid copy/paste reply, clearly has an agenda. Waste of time.

  • @Miguel-py9dd
    @Miguel-py9dd2 ай бұрын

    Iran's role in WW2 is never really talked about anywhere except, of course, Iran

  • @thesenate1844

    @thesenate1844

    2 ай бұрын

    Iran, whose name is literally based on "Aryan"

  • @johnpoole3871

    @johnpoole3871

    2 ай бұрын

    The World War 2 channel here on KZread covered it, along with the famine that followed.

  • @cyrusthegreat1893

    @cyrusthegreat1893

    2 ай бұрын

    @@johnpoole3871 Please share the link.

  • @elevatedmeance6807

    @elevatedmeance6807

    2 ай бұрын

    They only cover it because the invasion started a famine which killed an estimated 3 million people. It’s mostly to highlight the shahs incopitance and the western aggression. They took Russia role in the invasion out of the textbooks, it was never really given a reason but I think the mullahs would rather people think of Russia as a friend in their fight aginest the west treatment of the Islamic nations (ignoring what happened in Dagestan and Chechnya ofc)

  • @Houthiandtheblowfish

    @Houthiandtheblowfish

    2 ай бұрын

    @@elevatedmeance6807 dude it is the opposite they induced russophobia but britishphilia and good coverage in media but bad coverage of bbc about germans and russians

  • @brianb2886
    @brianb28862 ай бұрын

    Great episode. An episode on why Brunei is divided by Malaysia would be interesting, i didn't see it in your other videos

  • @mashiturro8077
    @mashiturro80772 ай бұрын

    Never thought I would be so early to one of your videos!

  • @akopowerletsplay3884

    @akopowerletsplay3884

    2 ай бұрын

    i am from iran ,,,

  • @Falkirion
    @Falkirion2 ай бұрын

    Love the ship names you chose for the Royal Navy. Very on point humour there

  • @sgcandrewkard
    @sgcandrewkard2 ай бұрын

    Shah of Iran "Just built all these nice new roads." Britain and USSR "New roads you say?"

  • @user-dt9cd8yr1l
    @user-dt9cd8yr1l2 ай бұрын

    I love when you post it makes my day

  • @FireballFlareblitz734
    @FireballFlareblitz7342 ай бұрын

    My new favorite donator: "Calling Dr. Howard Dr. Fine Dr. Howard"

  • @grantorino2325

    @grantorino2325

    2 ай бұрын

    *Soitanly!* Nyuck, Nyuck, Nyuck!

  • @MatthewBakke
    @MatthewBakke2 ай бұрын

    This is a good one! I’m so happy I stumbled across your channel so many years ago.

  • @Simpleexperiments741
    @Simpleexperiments7412 ай бұрын

    Good video these are always interesting

  • @Elongated_Muskrat
    @Elongated_Muskrat2 ай бұрын

    And Iran lived happily ever after.

  • @Houthiandtheblowfish

    @Houthiandtheblowfish

    2 ай бұрын

    during this invasion you can also talk about british infused persian holocaust famine ww1 ww2 which halfed the population from 20 milion to 10 million and alongside polish refuges coming to iran meanwhile during ww2 and installment of a dictator autocrat with its own cia

  • @frankiefierro7129

    @frankiefierro7129

    2 ай бұрын

    Yup, they were able to go into the 50's and enjoy the their democracy. I'm being sarcastic in case anyone is wondering.

  • @_blank-_

    @_blank-_

    Ай бұрын

    And people wonder why so many countries can't stand the West

  • @DaBritishBird
    @DaBritishBird2 ай бұрын

    Finally, Iran is now answered also…. I think James Bisonette had something to do with this…

  • @jamesbissonette8002

    @jamesbissonette8002

    2 ай бұрын

    Nah

  • @ecurewitz

    @ecurewitz

    2 ай бұрын

    Don’t forget Kelly Moneymaker

  • @zim_christ_lion
    @zim_christ_lion2 ай бұрын

    Great video, mate. Thanks.

  • @akend4426
    @akend44262 ай бұрын

    These new high quality character models are really great!

  • @SeniorJr815
    @SeniorJr8152 ай бұрын

    Thanks James Bisonette😃

  • @braedenh6858
    @braedenh68582 ай бұрын

    JS - Hey Winston, I've just noticed something. We're in neutral Iran. WC - So what, Josef, what's your point? JS - Winston...are we the baddies?

  • @nik65stgt60
    @nik65stgt60Ай бұрын

    Great content!

  • @MrfeastHaven-tj6uj
    @MrfeastHaven-tj6uj2 ай бұрын

    Because James bassinet was such a good general!

  • @deadon4847

    @deadon4847

    2 ай бұрын

    Lame.

  • @n.s.mcmahon6180

    @n.s.mcmahon6180

    2 ай бұрын

    He just bought the country.

  • @Failure_studios29090

    @Failure_studios29090

    2 ай бұрын

    Don't forget Kelly money maker 🤑

  • @zwussow
    @zwussow2 ай бұрын

    I'm a bit ashamed to say I did not know the allies invaded Iran in WWII. Thanks for the video!

  • @runajain5773

    @runajain5773

    2 ай бұрын

    That reason of beingging of british and american control on iran and Iranian revolution happen

  • @seanmoran2743

    @seanmoran2743

    2 ай бұрын

    Britain and America orchestrated a coup against the elected government of Iran in the 1950s over er ……………… Oil rights

  • @PetarKobas
    @PetarKobas2 ай бұрын

    Nice video

  • @appalachianvolk1958
    @appalachianvolk19582 ай бұрын

    Love your videos, perfect stuff to eat dinner to

  • @whyareyoureadingmynickname8158
    @whyareyoureadingmynickname81582 ай бұрын

    While we are on WW2 topics, here are few more ideas for future videos: 1. what were reichkommissariats?; 2. how independent were Axis puppet states (AKA Slovakia, Croatia, Manchukuo, Burma etc.); 3. Iraqi revolt in 1941 and why it was unsuccessful; 4. Italian occupation of Ethiopia; 5. why Japan didn't attack USSR in 1941 when Germany did?

  • @howtoappearincompletely9739

    @howtoappearincompletely9739

    2 ай бұрын

    All interesting topics, I must say.

  • @sethbaggins

    @sethbaggins

    Ай бұрын

    I think with number 5 it was just logistically impossible for Japan to plow through thousands of miles of frigid tundra to get to Moscow; when they were already struggling to establish their own east asian co-prosperity sphere. With their general lack of oil and other resources I assume.

  • @nathanpayne6765
    @nathanpayne67652 ай бұрын

    Good heavens! Last time I was this early, the Republic of Ragusa (Dubrovnik, now a full part of Dalmatia, in Croatia) still only held Astarea and the Elaphites! The time when they got Korčula for a good four seconds is a close third!

  • @genovayork2468

    @genovayork2468

    2 ай бұрын

    When would that be?

  • @nathanpayne6765

    @nathanpayne6765

    2 ай бұрын

    @@genovayork2468 The only-Astarea one, or the time they got Korčula?

  • @genovayork2468

    @genovayork2468

    2 ай бұрын

    @@nathanpayne6765 You edited Korčula in after I had commented, silly.

  • @nathanpayne6765

    @nathanpayne6765

    2 ай бұрын

    @@genovayork2468Oh, your comment hadn't loaded for me when I did. From what I can tell (as I'm yet to find an academic paper dealing specifically with Ragusan territorial expansion), their first major acquisition outside of the traditional core of Astarea and the Elaphite islands, was in the mid-1200s, with the island of Lastovo. Apparently in 1240 they had tried to get the Venetians to hand it over to them, along with Mljet (and potentially also Korčula, if I remember correctly), but were unsuccessful. By 1272, when the first Statute of Dubrovnik was compiled on orders of the Venetian-appointed count Marco Giustinian, they already held Lastovo, and chapter xv of the first book of said statute is a brief paragraph describing "In What Manner the People of Lastovo Gave Themselves and the Island to the Commune of Dubrovnik."

  • @howtoappearincompletely9739

    @howtoappearincompletely9739

    2 ай бұрын

    @@nathanpayne6765 What a fascinating little historical titbit!

  • @malumphasma
    @malumphasma2 ай бұрын

    Am I the only person who would like him to narrate... Everything? LoL Good info, some stuff in here I didn't realize. Gonna have to digdeeper now. Been watching for years now and every time it gives me food for thought and something to delve deeper into. Thank you!

  • @RandomYT05_01
    @RandomYT05_012 ай бұрын

    Me showing up 10 minutes after upload without being notified a new episode has released 😎

  • @no.6660
    @no.66602 ай бұрын

    Day 2 of asking him to finish the English/British history series

  • @TheOrigamiAnalysis
    @TheOrigamiAnalysis2 ай бұрын

    At least they lasted longer than Denmark in WWII.

  • @cyrusthegreat1893

    @cyrusthegreat1893

    2 ай бұрын

    And that’s because Iran is bigger than Denmark. Therefore, it took longer to be occupied.

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations2 ай бұрын

    Fascinating!

  • @balthiousdire6795
    @balthiousdire67952 ай бұрын

    great channel

  • @OsamasStory
    @OsamasStory2 ай бұрын

    “Which raises the question, why?”

  • @RankinMsP

    @RankinMsP

    Ай бұрын

    Our calling card. 😊

  • @ThealmightyMatt
    @ThealmightyMatt2 ай бұрын

    One thing that wasn't mentioned, but I think should at least be acknowledged, is the horrible famine that Iran suffered from under the occupation by the United Nations Alliance (i.e., Allies and Soviet Union). I highly recommend watching World War Two's video "The Famine the World Forgot" for more information.

  • @Houthiandtheblowfish

    @Houthiandtheblowfish

    2 ай бұрын

    during this invasion you can also talk about british infused persian holocaust famine ww1 ww2 which halfed the population from 20 milion to 10 million and alongside polish refuges coming to iran meanwhile during ww2 and installment of a dictator autocrat with its own cia

  • @Vlashr

    @Vlashr

    Ай бұрын

    This question has received little attention, obviously because history is written by the victors. But, without trying to justify anyone, I note that during WWII there was a terrible famine in the USSR and in British India

  • @Houthiandtheblowfish

    @Houthiandtheblowfish

    Ай бұрын

    @@Vlashr indeed and it is not too dissimilar to irish either

  • @SomeSuperGiant
    @SomeSuperGiant2 ай бұрын

    You know I just so happed to get the really rare event where this happens in hoi4. And then one day later this video comes out kinda cool

  • @aaronthomas8190
    @aaronthomas81902 ай бұрын

    Excellent summary on an interesting piece of Middle East history that I didn't know much about. Thank you.

  • @deleted-something
    @deleted-something2 ай бұрын

    Can you talk about Ethiopian resistance during ww2? Is quite interesting that they were never fully conquered by any European country

  • @FastTquick

    @FastTquick

    2 ай бұрын

    They weren't until the Italians ripped them a new one during the Second Italo-Ethiopian War.

  • @NokiaTheReuploader

    @NokiaTheReuploader

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@FastTquickthey were some areas controlled by rebels

  • @christopherhoffer6643

    @christopherhoffer6643

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@FastTquick When the Italians invaded Ethiopia in 1935, at the age of 15, Jagama and his older brother went into the bush to join the Arbegnoch. At first, he had no gun - only his elder brother had one. But they ambushed Italian troops and gradually armed themselves. Peasants joined the struggle, and by the end of the war, they had over 3,000 fighters under their command, his forces were active in the mountainous areas of western Shewa.[8] On 2 December 1940, he and his soldiers raided the Italian garrison at Addis Alem. They killed 72 Italians in the engagement, including their commander Vittorio Casardi, and captured over 2,000 rifles.[10] On 5th May 1941, after years in exile in Britain, Emperor Haile Selassie returned to his capital. Jagama, who had received no British help during the 5 years of the war, refused to go to Addis Ababa for the ceremony. In the end, the Emperor came to Ginchi. Jagama says he put his 3,500 troops on the parade to greet Haile Selassie. He was then driven in the Emperor’s own car to his palace, where he was awarded a gabardine coat and a gold watch. But the war was not yet over. Jimma was still under Italian control. The Emperor asked Jagama for help, and he says he led his forces into battle. Reports suggest the area was ‘swarming with Patriots’ - many of whom may have been loyal to Jagama. He told the BBC that his forces captured some 500 Italian soldiers, whom he handed over to the British[8] Works cited Forgacs, David (2014). Italy's Margins: Social Exclusion and Nation Formation since 1861. Cambridge Social and Cultural Histories. Vol. XX (illus. ed.). Cambridge University Press. ISBN 978-1-107-05217-8. Jalata, Asafa (1998). Oromo Nationalism and the Ethiopian Discourse: The Search for Freedom and Democracy. The Red Sea Press. p. 198. ISBN 1569020663. Pearce, Jeff (2014). Prevail: The Inspiring Story of Ethiopia's Victory over Mussolini's Invasion, 1935-1941. Skyhorse Publishing, Inc. ISBN 978-1632200969.

  • @christopherhoffer6643

    @christopherhoffer6643

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@FastTquick When the Italians invaded Ethiopia in 1935, at the age of 15, Jagama and his older brother went into the bush to join the Arbegnoch. At first, he had no gun - only his elder brother had one. But they ambushed Italian troops and gradually armed themselves. Peasants joined the struggle, and by the end of the war, they had over 3,000 fighters under their command, his forces were active in the mountainous areas of western Shewa.[8] On 2 December 1940, he and his soldiers raided the Italian garrison at Addis Alem. They killed 72 Italians in the engagement, including their commander Vittorio Casardi, and captured over 2,000 rifles.[10] On 5th May 1941, after years in exile in Britain, Emperor Haile Selassie returned to his capital. Jagama, who had received no British help during the 5 years of the war, refused to go to Addis Ababa for the ceremony. In the end, the Emperor came to Ginchi. Jagama says he put his 3,500 troops on the parade to greet Haile Selassie. He was then driven in the Emperor’s own car to his palace, where he was awarded a gabardine coat and a gold watch. But the war was not yet over. Jimma was still under Italian control. The Emperor asked Jagama for help, and he says he led his forces into battle. Reports suggest the area was ‘swarming with Patriots’ - many of whom may have been loyal to Jagama. He told the BBC that his forces captured some 500 Italian soldiers, whom he handed over to the British[8] Works cited Forgacs, David (2014). Italy's Margins: Social Exclusion and Nation Formation since 1861. Cambridge Social and Cultural Histories. Vol. XX (illus. ed.). Cambridge University Press. ISBN 978-1-107-05217-8. Jalata, Asafa (1998). Oromo Nationalism and the Ethiopian Discourse: The Search for Freedom and Democracy. The Red Sea Press. p. 198. ISBN 1569020663. Pearce, Jeff (2014). Prevail: The Inspiring Story of Ethiopia's Victory over Mussolini's Invasion, 1935-1941. Skyhorse Publishing, Inc. ISBN 978-1632200969.

  • @Lodrik18

    @Lodrik18

    2 ай бұрын

    Wakanda forever!

  • @ArthurCSchaper
    @ArthurCSchaper2 ай бұрын

    Please do a video on the following subjects: 1. Why did the Revolution of 1848 fail in Spain and the German states? 2. Why do people drive on different sides of the road in different countries?

  • @t2av159

    @t2av159

    2 ай бұрын

    Because

  • @NorbertButele
    @NorbertButele2 ай бұрын

    Really loved this one

  • @orangecuse2646
    @orangecuse2646Ай бұрын

    I love your vidoes! Without a doubt my favorite youtube channel. Can you guys do a video on the collapse of yugoslavia? Why did it collapse they way it did? What was the reaction.

  • @bela650
    @bela6502 ай бұрын

    Denmark: finally it's not me being made fun of! Iran: well great for you!

  • @ashhaep82
    @ashhaep822 ай бұрын

    Great video.

  • @gamingsolider0968
    @gamingsolider09682 ай бұрын

    When ever a new video comes out it takes me a couple of days to realize it’s new 💀

  • @mailfergal
    @mailfergal2 ай бұрын

    Never knew about this! Plus, “shooty-end” 😂😂

  • @familygash7500
    @familygash75002 ай бұрын

    *VIDEO SUGGESTION:* Why did Italy loose to Greece during World War II? (I actually already know the answer to this question, but I still want History Matters to make a video about it, anyway).

  • @sethbaggins

    @sethbaggins

    Ай бұрын

    QUESTION: out of curiosity if I may ask, why and how did Italy lose to greece?

  • @graceneilitz7661

    @graceneilitz7661

    5 сағат бұрын

    @@sethbaggins Bad weather, bad timing, bad equipment, and incompetence of the Italian high command. But, the biggest reason was that the Greeks were highly motivated to fight, and held out fairly well until the Germans came.

  • @michaelowino228
    @michaelowino2282 ай бұрын

    Good video.

  • @flawyerlawyertv7454
    @flawyerlawyertv74542 ай бұрын

    Thanks. 👍

  • @LaCoalicion.
    @LaCoalicion.2 ай бұрын

    Nice

  • @robertobustios9485
    @robertobustios94852 ай бұрын

    if you can make a video about how 2-3 million Iranians died of famine and starvation during the allied occupation. its a little detail that the allies conveniently like to ignore.

  • @cowfat8547

    @cowfat8547

    2 ай бұрын

    oh boo hoo cry me a river

  • @vincentmahon6423

    @vincentmahon6423

    16 күн бұрын

    ​inhuman.

  • @akend4426
    @akend44262 ай бұрын

    The only time where British and Soviet forces cooperated directly, if I recall correctly.

  • @ussrmapping9185
    @ussrmapping91852 ай бұрын

    Made it here Before the 100k views!

  • @Suavs
    @Suavs2 ай бұрын

    Here before the James Bissonet comments

  • @howtoappearincompletely9739

    @howtoappearincompletely9739

    2 ай бұрын

    It's like detecting the cancer in stage one, huh?

  • @atoucangirl
    @atoucangirl2 ай бұрын

    ah yes, the prequel to Persepolis i was looking for

  • @howtoappearincompletely9739

    @howtoappearincompletely9739

    2 ай бұрын

    Good film, that.

  • @scientificnameofpigs
    @scientificnameofpigs2 ай бұрын

    I really wondered this

  • @mikeritter1735
    @mikeritter17352 ай бұрын

    May I ask, is the video about the reaction of the coronation of Napoleon III. not available anymore? 😅 By the way, I always enjoy the interesting questions and videos you make! ☺️🎉

  • @HistorySpot2023
    @HistorySpot2023Ай бұрын

    Iran did not "fall" in World War II in the same sense that European nations did. However, Iran did experience a significant event during World War II known as the Anglo-Soviet invasion of Iran in August 1941.

  • @lunalingo4461
    @lunalingo44612 ай бұрын

    Aaahh its a good iftar when history matters uploads 😊😊

  • @geordiedog1749
    @geordiedog17492 ай бұрын

    “The shooty end of the Shars reign” - quality!!

  • @derrickbuhonick3105
    @derrickbuhonick31052 ай бұрын

    Gotta tell ya….. I love WW2 (or rather learning about it). I consider it one of my favorite topics….. I have never heard about Iran during WW2 and didn’t know they were even involved. Thank you!

  • @nukey_nuke
    @nukey_nuke2 ай бұрын

    Iran could have a really good hoi4 tree now that i know this

  • @genovayork2468

    @genovayork2468

    2 ай бұрын

    It doesn't have much to reconquer. The east Caucasus, south Turkmenistan and Herat.

  • @RBN1939
    @RBN19392 ай бұрын

    I did know about this and how the "big three" had a conference in Tehran in 1943 and about the occupation I never knew there was an actual invasion or brief conflict had thought Iran just gave in straight away so it's cool to have a channel like this that talks about these less known event and teaches me new things about them

  • @howtoappearincompletely9739

    @howtoappearincompletely9739

    2 ай бұрын

    @@neshirst-ashuach1881 Were you responding to Houthiandtheblowfish?

  • @neshirst-ashuach1881

    @neshirst-ashuach1881

    2 ай бұрын

    @@howtoappearincompletely9739 Yeah, I see they deleted their comment, I'll delete my reply as well.

  • @untendohd1377
    @untendohd13772 ай бұрын

    Can you make a video about Romania joining the Entente in WW1?

  • @Donotlookatmyprofilepicture123
    @Donotlookatmyprofilepicture1232 ай бұрын

    Basically: the British and Soviets played dirty and attacked a neutral country without warning

  • @aAverageFan

    @aAverageFan

    2 ай бұрын

    Allies be like: It's only wrong when the Axis does it but not when we do it.

  • @zimriel

    @zimriel

    2 ай бұрын

    @@aAverageFan "we've already allied with Stalin, may as well just roll with it"

  • @goranpersson7726

    @goranpersson7726

    2 ай бұрын

    best part is, if you look at the german policies and what they were attempting to do? well they would have probably ended up with a similar fate as the USSR did. sure it would be tragic loss of life during it's reign (same as it was in our timeline and same as it was for the shit the soviets did) but they would have most likely collapsed as they would face pretty much the same problems the soviets did (although maybe some more tensions between the different groups of people, heck maybe could have collapsed faster)

  • @saltzkruber732

    @saltzkruber732

    2 ай бұрын

    @@aAverageFanYeah when a mad dictator starts a world war you do what has to be done to end it.

  • @royale7620

    @royale7620

    2 ай бұрын

    They almost did the same with Norway and Sweden btw

  • @keepingitwild5994
    @keepingitwild59942 ай бұрын

    Wow! How did I not know anything about this?

  • @aAverageFan
    @aAverageFan2 ай бұрын

    Wait so you're telling me that the USSR had the troops to invade Iran while the Germans were advancing towards their capital

  • @Donotlookatmyprofilepicture123

    @Donotlookatmyprofilepicture123

    2 ай бұрын

    They were also fightinh the japansese at the same time it was a massive country

  • @BOZ_11

    @BOZ_11

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Donotlookatmyprofilepicture123 was? still #1 by land mass

  • @Donotlookatmyprofilepicture123

    @Donotlookatmyprofilepicture123

    2 ай бұрын

    @@BOZ_11yeah I just mean ussr was even bigger. Yk Ussr is not just a other russian empire right?

  • @aAverageFan

    @aAverageFan

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@BOZ_11 British Empire was bigger than USSR at that time

  • @BOZ_11

    @BOZ_11

    2 ай бұрын

    @@aAverageFan yeah but they were ruling over hunter gatherers and agrarian societies in mostly icy tundras or deserts. Rather inflated achievement.

  • @TheLocalLt
    @TheLocalLt2 ай бұрын

    One small correction, there was an ultimatum to expel all German nationals but the shah ignored it. Then after allies first invaded he pretended to accept, but instead snuck out the German nationals without allowing the British and Soviets to take stock of them. This caused the British and Soviets to stop negotiating and seize Tehran, with the Shah abdicating as they approached the the city.

  • @seanmoran2743

    @seanmoran2743

    2 ай бұрын

    So it’s ok to dictate to Neutral Countries as long as it’s not Switzerland

  • @lordhosseinlh

    @lordhosseinlh

    Ай бұрын

    The shah did expell as much as he could but the Germans built Iran so it's not possible to replace the industrial engines which they operated. Though he did expell them as much as he could but the British was like. No it's too few and too late. Let's assume was Germanys only trading partner left and still managed to trade with the Germans while the Germans were surrounded and managed to send good or receive good from iran(???)... Anyhow, even that would not be enough to tip the scales. What the British really wanted was the railways of Iran to send aid to Russia which saved the Russians and pushed back Germany. They masked this as Iran being one with the axis and for obvious reasons, people believed them. People talk about ww2 as if it was a war between good and bad, not knowing it was between worst and worst. What people in Europe consider as the worst (Germany) in countries like Iran or India it's Britain. Not to even mention the Russians. In the total occupation of India under British, 29 million people dies from starvation. That's not including wars and other stuff. Just starvation in forcing them to plant jute plants. Then there was the Persian Genocide where ww1 neutral Iran was the one which lost the most compared to any active participant of the war.

  • @maximusromulus2697
    @maximusromulus26972 ай бұрын

    I’ve studied WW2 for years now and this is the first time I’m hearing about the invasion of Iran. Why haven’t I heard this before??

  • @MajSolo
    @MajSolo2 ай бұрын

    now I just need to remember this tomorrow.

  • @poromafia
    @poromafia2 ай бұрын

    Soviets having a hard time leaving areas they have stepped their foot on? Who would have guessed!

  • @dercorta-noyokamiboyteenpr2166
    @dercorta-noyokamiboyteenpr21662 ай бұрын

    invading an neutral west european country (belgium) = evil. invading an neutral non european country (iran) = ok/accepted

  • @Houthiandtheblowfish

    @Houthiandtheblowfish

    2 ай бұрын

    during this invasion you can also talk about british infused persian holocaust famine ww1 ww2 which halfed the population from 20 milion to 10 million and alongside polish refuges coming to iran meanwhile during ww2 and installment of a dictator autocrat with its own cia

  • @eric-wb7gj
    @eric-wb7gj2 ай бұрын

    TY🙏🙏

  • @bilimsanatduzen2074
    @bilimsanatduzen20742 ай бұрын

    İ did learn thanks🙏

  • @nathandougg9743
    @nathandougg97432 ай бұрын

    You were right about most of the event but the people actually loved Reza Shah because he built schools, university, hospitals, saved a lot of Iranians from hunger and roads

  • @alanpennie8013

    @alanpennie8013

    2 ай бұрын

    The roads did get a mention.

  • @josukegappyhigashikata625

    @josukegappyhigashikata625

    2 ай бұрын

    Also banned slavery, don’t forget that part.

  • @HermitKing731

    @HermitKing731

    2 ай бұрын

    He saved them from the roads. Those evil child eating roads.

  • @elevatedmeance6807

    @elevatedmeance6807

    2 ай бұрын

    Mullahs don’t apparently Also wasn’t this invasion the start of that really bad famine that killed like 3 million ppl?

  • @josukegappyhigashikata625

    @josukegappyhigashikata625

    2 ай бұрын

    @@elevatedmeance6807 That was during the first world war the one in the second world war is more than that though we don’t have clear cut answers to it Also Mullahs hate everything, they’ve never liked something or someone

  • @ddggfcff
    @ddggfcff2 ай бұрын

    Britain protecting the sovereignty of neutral European countries: strong Britain protecting non European countries sovereignty: the empire on which the sun never sets

  • @angelb.823

    @angelb.823

    2 ай бұрын

    Fascinating, because Britain, alongside with France, violated Greece's neutrality during WWI, before Greece would join the Entente against the Central Powers.

  • @theredscarelpful

    @theredscarelpful

    2 ай бұрын

    Might want to look to the left of England there mate.

  • @magnushultgrenhtc

    @magnushultgrenhtc

    2 ай бұрын

    I think it was Blackadder who described the colonial imbalance in weaponry as a battle between gatling guns and a particularly pointy mango.

  • @Lodrik18

    @Lodrik18

    2 ай бұрын

    "the empire on which the sun never sets" was about the spanish empire...

  • @Ducky27_

    @Ducky27_

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Lodrik18 it describes multiple empires including the spanish AND british

  • @thebushwacker2417
    @thebushwacker24172 ай бұрын

    the more i learn about ww2 the more sympathetic i get towards the axis

  • @looinrims
    @looinrims2 ай бұрын

    Should do a video on the Iranian famine

  • @PatriotOfPersia

    @PatriotOfPersia

    2 ай бұрын

    * Genocide It Was Artificial Famine

  • @dr.victorvs
    @dr.victorvs2 ай бұрын

    Oh, look. One of the two famines Churchill oversaw and that can be described, charitably, as criminal negligence.

  • @aAverageFan

    @aAverageFan

    2 ай бұрын

    The other famine was in Bengal province of British India at the same time

  • @genovayork2468

    @genovayork2468

    2 ай бұрын

    Worse than the Holodomor.

  • @Finnbobjimbob

    @Finnbobjimbob

    2 ай бұрын

    The bengal famine was caused by a cyclone and flooding that destroyed crops and infrastructure, it was certainly exacerbated by supplies being diverted from India towards the war effort, but that wouldn’t have been a problem if it wasn’t for the cyclone and the soldiers not receiving the food would have caused massive damage to the allied effort in the pacific. Once Churchill received word on what had occurred in Bengal he requested aid be sent but the Japanese presence in the area meant no such aid would make it from Britain, so instead he asked the other allies and supplies were eventually received from Australia.

  • @Finnbobjimbob

    @Finnbobjimbob

    2 ай бұрын

    @@genovayork2468And both were done by the soviets

  • @aAverageFan

    @aAverageFan

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Finnbobjimbob The Ukrainian famine was also caused by natural conditions and Stalin also sent aid to Ukraine

  • @juliomanuel1885
    @juliomanuel18852 ай бұрын

    Can you do a video about why Germany fought to the last man and didn't surrender even though the war was clearly lost by 1944 or even 1943 or earlier?

  • @genovayork2468

    @genovayork2468

    2 ай бұрын

    It wasn't clearly lost in 1943.

  • @zombieranger3410

    @zombieranger3410

    2 ай бұрын

    [looks at Soviet Union, army is just a few miles away from taking over Moscow] Well, its time to surrender

  • @boobah5643

    @boobah5643

    2 ай бұрын

    I must have missed that thing where there is no German state today, because the Allies killed them all when they fought to "the last man."

  • @Avo7bProject

    @Avo7bProject

    2 ай бұрын

    In an alternate universe, the plot of July 20, 1944 succeeded, and Germany capitulated before its cities were ruined by bombing.

  • @TheHylianBatman
    @TheHylianBatman2 ай бұрын

    I had not heard about the invasion of Iran, that's really interesting.

  • @salinbasnet8909
    @salinbasnet89092 ай бұрын

    Okay now that's cool

  • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
    @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis97142 ай бұрын

    But I thought only the Axis invaded neutral countries

  • @cowfat8547

    @cowfat8547

    2 ай бұрын

    the axis never invaded any neutral countries nor has anyone suggested they’re the only ones to do so. every country invaded by the axis had strong feelings against them. you’re trying to defend the axis by mocking an argument that no one is making. plus, if you’re the british and soviets and you’re fighting the germans and you see the iranians actively supplying germany’s war effort, you’re not going to see them as neutral in any way. you’re going to see them as a threat to your survival. before the invasion, half of iran’s imports came from germany and 42% of their exports went to germany. with that kind of economic interdependence, there’s no possible way for iran to have actually been neutral.

  • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714

    @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714

    2 ай бұрын

    @@cowfat8547 The Nederlands or Danemark had strong feelings against the Axis? If Britain had lost WW2 it would have still survived. Infact revanchism might have kept the empire together.

  • @cowfat8547

    @cowfat8547

    2 ай бұрын

    Both the Netherlands and Denmark were mostly against fascism and declared neutrality in September of 1939 simply out of fear of being invaded by Germany. They didn’t want to get involved in another war because they knew they didn’t have the ability to defend themselves. At the time of declaring neutrality, a British and French victory meant continued security and independence for them, a German victory meant they’d have to kneel down and kiss the ring or get invaded as well. Also yes Britain could have survived but as a shell of its former self and one that would be forced to work with fascists. It wouldn’t have the ability to defend its overseas empires from Japanese influence and would have no democratic friends left in Europe. Plus I was more referring to the Soviets, y’know the ones that were being butchered by the hundreds of thousands as their country had a massive chunk carved out of it. Naturally you’re going to do whatever is needed to stop the German war machine and if stopping supplies from Iran and taking those supplies for yourself is what’s needed, it’s what they’re going to do.

  • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714

    @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714

    2 ай бұрын

    @@cowfat8547 "Also yes Britain could have survived but as a shell of its former self" Literally the opposite. If Britain didnt wage a total war to its own bankrupcy the empire could have survived for generations more. "and one that would be forced to work with fascists" Working with fascists makes more sense than working with liberals and comunists if you have colonies you have to repress. "It wouldn’t have the ability to defend its overseas empires from Japanese influence" Yes it would. Japan was weak, it only defeated third rate forces when all the europian powers where buisy fighting in Europe. If the full might of the Royal Navy went to East Asia Japan would be defeated. "Naturally you’re going to do whatever is needed to stop the German war machine" And naturally the germans will do whatever is needed to stop the Soviet war machine and wouldnt you know it there are no good guys and bad guys in the real world.

  • @cowfat8547

    @cowfat8547

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Clearly you don't know much about the war and the foreign relations between the nations leading up to the war. Britain despised fascism, they were very much willing to fight it instead of working with it. Yes they also despised communism, but the communists weren't the ones dropping bombs on London, and by mid-1941 they were fighting the same enemy. Also, fighting with the Soviet Union doesn't mean becoming communist after the war is over, but losing to Germany does mean becoming a fascist puppet state. That's why its a war of survival for both the British and the Soviets. You win the war, you get to continue with the government you already had, you lose, you don't. It's that simple. So not sure what point you're trying to make there by bringing up liberalism and communistm because its not become fascist or become communist, its become fascist or stay the way you are. Also, yes Japan wasn't very strong, but with the fight for Europe, the British could not focus much on that conflict. If Britain had lost WW2 like you suggested, not only would Britain have lost most or all war making capacity, but any surrender deal with Germany would have resulted in the Japanese gaining much of Britain's Asian territories as its unlikely the Germans would force Japan to unhand the territories it had already conquered (which likely would have expanded greatly in the last days before Britain's defeat in Europe). If you think the Germans would have let the British have such favorable terms after defeating them, then you're delusional. The only way they would have been able to keep their entire empire was if they had come to an armistice with Germany earlier in the war or if they had accepted one of the many offers from Hitler before the war to have a military alliance. But in a situation where Britain straight up loses like you suggested, it would have meant a sustained British fight until defeat and would have left it in a position where it could not get favorable terms in a peace deal. If you equate the Allies doing whatever they need to do to defeat the Axis as the same as the Axis doing what they needed to do to defeat the Allies to try and paint both sides as bad, then either you're a wehraboo or just a nihilist. Fighting evil by any means necessary is not the same as conquering the world to spread fascism and exterminate millions by any means necessary.

  • @camilla_k97
    @camilla_k972 ай бұрын

    The two great powers committed a crime, invading a neutral country

  • @cowfat8547

    @cowfat8547

    2 ай бұрын

    was not a neutral country. they claimed neutrality but all their actions showed they favored the germans...not to mention that they were helping supply the german war effort as half their trade was with them

  • @sarasamaletdin4574

    @sarasamaletdin4574

    Ай бұрын

    @cowfat8547 You are able to trade and be neutral. As long as you aren’t trading manufactured weapons. Even oil is fine. But superpowers don’t actually care of neutrality if they have a pressing reason to invade.

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