I have a PS SH on my main 6 and I'm so glad to see this class/playstyle getting some love from ATK!

as a PS main i love seeing vids on it

The only issue I see is you said you can put demonic slash at 10. That's a big problem that I see other PS doing. If you don't have raid captain, leaving it at 4 is fine, but pumping it to 10 is always a loss. The double slash wastes time and if you don't use the second one, your cooldown actually becomes longer by the amount it gives you to use the second slash. Combine that with wasted skill points and it's one of the many reasons I often see PS doing subpar damage. If you have raid captain on 50/50 build, demonic slash at 7 is mandatory. With a lvl 7 gem and level 7 demonic slash, you can keep near 100% uptime on your move speed buff. At the very least, it's always up while you're using high damage skills, and a higher level gem makes it a full 100% uptime. Also, one thing you didn't note on the demonic clone vs howl part. You need a cd gem on howl. You don't need one on demonic clone freeing up a gem slot. You still maintain enough gauge gain without the demonic clone cd gem. For me, this means an additional damage gem on decimate, improving my dps a little. Builds not running raid captain can slap an additional damage gem on demonic clone or just put the cd gem on demonic slash for more mobility. PS is the alt I wish I had taken as a main. I've played it since the western launch, but it's always been one step behind. Every time I play it I tell myself I should swap my soulfist out for it, but never do since I've already invested way too much (and I still enjoy soulfist a lot). I just love the feel of PS, and it's probably the class I'm best at playing.

@mikesmith-zh3go

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Thanks for this very helpful, question: for 5x3+1 should i go 1PS 3 adren or 3PS 1 adren, taking into account the buff to PS thats coming

I've been playing PS since the Lost Ark western beta and I still love the class. Something about the play style and feel of the class just clicked with me. It's definitely got problems but awesome to see more people enjoying the class.

@Startrance85

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Do people invite you to legion raids or do you have a static that allow it ?

@2013fh

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@@Startrance85I play PS and I experience very little gatekeeping.

@Startrance85

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@@2013fh After the Ayaya release i am not surprised pugs invite anything these days.

Switched my main DI to PS early on into NA release, have enjoyed it a lot ever since. Great video!

As someone who has 5 PS SH on my gold earning roster. Thanks for shining some light on PS. Can't get enough of this class, very fun playstyle

@7yphoon222

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damn lol. though its an extremely fun class since i play one myself

@banana_1_

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unique???? PS is not unique at all

Thanks for highlighting this version. You can have 800+ crit / 1500 Swiftness though. Build I run on my 1570 is: Grudge3 / Raid Captain 3 / Ambush Master 3 / Mass Increase 3 / Adrenaline 2 / Perfect Suppression 1 I have plenty of fun with the character, though it does have quite a bit of issues.

@ohneko

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i'm building the same, rolled a reverse 97 on my 1430 sh ps alt and i'll go the same build as you do with ad being 3 instead of 2. clicking hard with the class

From my experience as a PS SH, after swapping crit and swift accessories around I feel like full Swift is the most practical for most fights. 1) since you have to chase the back so much, having full Swift (and even lvl10 DS for the extra dash) makes staying on the ass really easy. You're playing an entropy assassin class without Nightmare or Dark Axel so you need any advantage you can get to stay on the ass at all times. 2) the mana issues can be pretty bad but in most settings I feel like there are many phases and downtime periods where the mana issues don't really matter that much. If I was staying on Kunga or Valtan for 99% of the fight then I will need to eat some food to keep up the rotations, but if you're fighting bosses with cutscenes, phases, or some mechanics then mana isn't really as big a deal people make it out to be. If it's still bad you can craft thousands of cheap food using the stronghold farm. 3) the more you put into crit the more pressure you have to fit your back attacks because each hit is "worth more" and they'll be much slower and come up less often. Full swift is easier to fit all your attacks in and you're "less punished" for missing, you'll find that you're able to sneak in Demolition into more spots during a fight even if it's just barely a 1 second window, but if you sub in more crit you'll have less windows to perform and makes greeding the damage more risky. More Swiftness also makes a lot of mechanics more forgiving, just more skills to counter/stagger/weakpoint/etc and you'll be caught out much less. 4) Demolition+Cruel Cutter isn't Doomsday or Perfect Swing or LTK, a bit of crit variance doesn't swing your parse like crazy, so I feel like you only need enough crit to make KBW viable and make the build feel good vs other classes that cry every time they see a white number on their big skill. I've also seen a 4 Entropy/2 Nightmare full swift build which trades a ton of damage to never have mana problems on full swift, this is completely not worth it and you should just go 50/50 or eat food instead. Also the video notes that 5x3+2 is not that good but on the otherhand 5x3+1 is really good for everyone hitting ancient. Lvl1 PS is extremely efficient so the 7/7 enjoyers can reach the PS ceiling much easier and not worry about a 9/7.

My roster is basically 6 PS SH. I love the class and I’ve been testing all types of builds, like you said in the video. Now I’m swaping to Ancient gear and I’m playing half/half for max value, since we have some mana issues. Thanks for sharing your experience with PS, it can be a very fun class! Hope we see changes in the future aswell.

Don't use sharpened cut to gap close, you need to be on the bosses butt to do as much damage as possible with it

thank you man, really appreciate it, i'm a PS user. As always great content and information. Super Thanks!

What about playing a bracelet with MP recovery?

I typically run only howl as my gauge gain w/ wealth rune. Never seem to have any issues with anything except some CD issues which will be better with better gear for more swift. I also run Mass increase because its free damage when attacking too fast can put our skills on cd too fast

If you wont'h have mana problem just play 80%/20% crit/swift. Like a burst class

Whats up with the higher effort timer thing when just putting it in the description is a million times better?

Have you seen the 4dom / 2 night mare set on some kr players? If so what do you think about it?

Full swiftness 1560 Perfect here, i can say MP problem is haunting me, but i love the smooth cd and always have my moving skill in time i need. :D

Perfect Depression...

i play on EUC and im so glad my 3 PS shadows are already 5x3. im sure it will go very high in prices in 2 days :DDDD

I play full crit entropy w/ kbw just because I don't want to ass chase for a build that lacks super armour and having to rely on movement speed, since in a real raid i would rather have more burst in exchange for sustain damage especially it's an entropy build

I used PS on the east US Server, but my build is the high swiftness at max roll. so I can't really lower demonic slash, cause if there is no yearning set support I lose like 8% damage from raid captain. I think a fix to help the class is more tripod to change skill to normal like Clone so they get a bonus from class engraving, let's say decimate the second or third tripod turn the skill to normal mode, and lower the requirement for spender skill to around 50/60 or 70%.

Can you do a buss with your Shadowhunters? Really want to see how she is in a "real" situation i like sh skills more than the demonic form and I'm deciding if buy a slot for sh to play her, this video is making me to encourage to do it xd

what this vid tells me, is that im playin my PS naturally perfect :P also great work, thanks!

I am all for trying new specs as it adds a new element of "fun" for me. However, it seems that the class may have quite a few prerequisites before it can be really viable. The question I have is this: is it viable at 1490 gear score? I just came back to the game a week ago and that is where my SH is at (DI of course, lol).

What do you think about the crit/swift nightmare PS build? How does it compare? Ive seen people play full swift entropy but never tried it myself

Welcome ATK to the depression build

Hi guys, accidently cutted 9/7 mass increase/raid captain and thinking if is there any viable good dps build with mass increase??

Anyone know if 5x3 + PS1 vs Adrenaline 1 will be better after KR PS balance patch? 30% -> 36% for lvl 3 PS

Where is the DPS table he mentioned?

@merelivarileff5607

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Replying to get the chart aswell

Very nice and imformative vid, idk why it got disliked

PS got some ptr minor buffs last kr patch, dont think SG will bother to rework it

Last time i tried PS. every fight i found my self in 2 situation or i dont have mana to cast spells or i all my spells on cd and i must w8 to cast something

what about spinning weapon?

@TDDY-hb4wl

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Mostly still a bad skill because it's not a back attack skill.

Now everyone is gonna play PS and it won't be as cheap anymore 😭

@DutchSoup

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I just built it, still only cost me 40k with engravings

@miguelchagas4131

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demonic sucks anyway

They need to change and buff PS, it seems outdated

LMAO I built my PS 5hrs before this video came out for like 20k accs

How about C1200 S800, no adrenaline but another dps engraving ? Has anyone tried this ?

@NATK

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can do your calculation and try, but not often used

They should add two new dps skills to SH demon mode, cheap class doesn't mean low dmg😭

The only reason to play SH is to go DI for those massive milkers, PS can't do it :/

You see, but saying that it is last place in DPS means that it just gets gate kept into oblivion.

@anakin2949

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ive never been gatekept because playing SH

@JustGrayson

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@@anakin2949 do you play PS?

@anakin2949

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@@JustGrayson I play DI, but the talking about last place in dps was about di not ps no?

@JustGrayson

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@@anakin2949 Yes but I fear that people will gate keep just because of him saying that.

@anakin2949

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​@@JustGrayson i dont think so. Its known that SH is one of the lower dps classes since like forever and never had problems of gatekeeping even on ilvl. Also im most of the time MVP as "The lowest DPS class", because trixion dps doesnt say shit.

How to make this class better: 1) PS engraving needs to significantly increase meter gain of skills 2) spec needs to increase damage of skills when they consume meter to deal more skill damage

@joehennesey9833

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spec currently increases meter gain, do you want to get full charge with a single hit? lol

@puckstopper1937

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@@joehennesey9833 maybe if you use a few intrusion skills but pe engraving only increases damage with non intrusion skills. Try using those skills and see how little meter gain you get

Still huffing that SH copium.

I played it and enjoyed it until I start hating it so much. Played it for almost a year. Damage problem is because it's a back attack AND multihit. So you're almost never gonna hit all your hits 100% on the back. So you're already smoging in damage on top of smoging due to multi hits. Also your meter gain gets lesser and lesser the longer the battle goes and in the end you'd end up not having enough mana for your spenders because you're throwing out more skills. And then the mana problem. And the problems all just interchange with one other. Fundamentally, this class spec has a problem which hasn't been addressed for eons. I thew it away before she hit brel and cut my costs and played something more tangible and reliable. Problems with any stat combination Full Swift : Mana Problem Half Half : You don't have a seamless skill rotation, and have to wait. If you have high cd gems, you'd end up as Full Swift problem of no mana 60/70 | 40/50 Swift|Crit : Just a poor man's effort to try to balance this situation but the result is almost the same. Right now if you play PS SH, if you ain't OOM, you ain't playing it right. Similar playstyles are Swift Eso Flurry Striker , Hunger Reaper but Eso Striker has better numbers, more condensed hits and Hunger..or reaper is just a true back attack class so positional problem is negated.

@llegacy3157

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funny that I don't see any of that, and I'm main PS SH 1560ilv. Having said that, I came to the conclusion that the problem must have been you.

@jn2763

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@@llegacy3157 same here. i dont see how you run into mana issues with support and judgement/conviction runes. with him also saying he has problems with meter as well just screams a skill issue on his part.

@RubenDeAngelo

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If you guys think every CnJ is going to proc and every support is giving you 100% mana buff uptime, keep inhaling that copium. Even with focus and mana food the mana is still not enough. Idk what game you’re playing. Or your uptime is just so bad. Also, The fact that meter problems do exist is a known fact in longer raids. And I’m not saying about meter generation, it’s literally your spenders are up most of the time and you don’t have enough meter generation to accommodate the sheer rotation of spenders. You’ll have spenders up but you’ll end up wasting time trying to get your meter up and that’s a DPS loss. It’s not rocket science if you actually play the class.

@Balthor27

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​@@RubenDeAngelo you're just bad bro

@Schweebcraft

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@@RubenDeAngelo I'm chiming in as well. That's a you problem. Conv+Judg trigger almost every time it's up. Demonic slash has a 87% chance of triggering it (4 hits) on short cd. I use sharpened cut for judgement. It's hard to count, but I believe that's 6 hits giving us a 95% chance to trigger. If I fail to trigger conviction, I just hold sharpened cut for 5 seconds. Slight dps loss for zero mana problems. Might actually negate itself by cycling CC and Demo more often, too. As for gauge, you're doing something wrong. CC and Demo barely outpace the gauge gained from decimate and demonic clone. It takes over 4 minutes of rotating perfectly to drain my gauge to a dangerous level, at which point you awaken. The only raid I can see this being a problem in is brel 6. My PS isn't quite there yet so haven't experienced that one yet.

NO JUST BUFF DEMONIC. GIVE IT BIG DAMAGE ULT!

bro made full presentation💀💀💀💀💀💀

@shlumper7336

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yeah, he almost always does a presentation when he makes these type of videos, must be new here