Happy Holidays! Merry Christmas & Happy New Year! Never upload this early, but this video is a day late and I wanted to be a part of everyone Christmas morning! Hope you enjoyed this one, it was fun taking a look at Arthur’s perception of Colm in a unique way. P.S. I have an announcement coming soon in terms of content moving into the new year! More RDR1 & 2 FOR SURE! In the meantime, maybe join the discord & hit me with a follow for more details and being more connected as a community outside of just youtube! Join the discord here: discord.gg/qzwCDbt Follow me on twitter: twitter.com/CynicalGaming13 Follow me on instagram: instagram.com/cynic.the.original/

@ashcan6

7 ай бұрын

When Colm comes down eating a meal...I was so afraid that they were going to force Arthur to eat it, and then say that he was eating his own horse...thank you, Rockstar, for sparing us that. I also noted that they left baby bears or fawns out of the game, and there are no kids in the game except the street kids of St. Denis...

@davidempey8980

7 ай бұрын

i find it really cool how people are still making videos on red dead 2.

Because he knew it wouldn't solve anything.

@arataki_ittoofficial4375

7 ай бұрын

​​@@earl_Featheryeah but justice over ensuring focus on making sure his gang gets to safety and making sure they have enough money to get away is insane. Especially since Arthur had extraordinary willpower and valued the gang over anything else and would not be tempted by anything and only the money was the exception. Dutch shoukdve just focused on properly planning his heists and missions and properly trying to get Arthur and John on his side instead of comitting acts of revenge or vengeance because his actions tore the gang apart and got everyone killed. If he had been focused on his goal and not done any of the revenge kills, I believe everything would've been different. Bronte revenge killing? Led to Hosea and Lenny's death since it clearly informed Milton what they were doing and as Cynic has said in another video, Milton was the buffer in Saint Denis between Dutch and Milton and while Bronte was still alive and well and in power, Milton knew he couldn't exactly do what he did during the bank robbery. Leviticus cornwall's death was clearly a revenge kill no matter how much he said it was for the papers one of his men had. Dutch clearly hated Cornwall and wanted him dead and would've done it eventually. That kill easily put the Pinkertons back on their tail and put more fire behind them. All his awry plans were because of revenge, vengeance and his destructive ways. When Dutch actually focused on getting money, it seemed to be going well but the more the story went on, every single time he said this was for money, it clearly wasn't and he just did not know who he was fighting and why he was fighting. Arthur was definitely correct, neither he nor anyone in the gang can talk about justice. Arthur durinf the beginning of the game and all the way to chapter 5 was a monster and completely evil, he himself knew this. He was dying at the time and knew he couldn't focus on colm and had to help everyone get money and escape before he passes. Plus even though he had been indoctrinated heavily by Dutch and most of the things were bullshit and hypocrisy but some were actually wise such as revenge being for fools. He was taught that by Dutch and he followed through that for his entire life and its not easy to just stray away from that.

@BrickDaniels-qu7bz

7 ай бұрын

@@arataki_ittoofficial4375 I don't believe he was entirely evil at any particular point.

@arataki_ittoofficial4375

7 ай бұрын

@@BrickDaniels-qu7bz okay yea you are right, didnt mean completely my bad. But he alwaus regarded himself as an irredeemable monster s o thats why I said that.

@arataki_ittoofficial4375

7 ай бұрын

@@earl_Feather doesn't matter who blew the mission, the intent matters. Dutch not blowing one mission is the bare minimum. Almost every important heist has almost always gone wrong or awry because of his planning and hasty choices. He also would rather make sure colm hangs and laugh in his face while it does rather than rescuse John. We did rescue John before that mission but knowing Dutch, he obviously knew of his capture and hanging long before we scouted ahead and rescued john and would've easily just gone alone to the hanging and accomplished that by himself if no one else wanted to come with him. You cant talk about anything morally when Dutch is involved in a sentence. No matter his message or his charisma, he is even more of a monster than Arthur or Micah would ever be and him or you talking about Dutch making sure justice was achieve is pretty ironic since Dutch becomes way worse and might be as bad as colm at the time because of his obvious charismatic and messiah facade.

@foodafen7406

7 ай бұрын

Because Arthur knew at this point that the gang itself was its own enemy

Dutch’s grudge for Colm O’Driscoll single handedly set them on the eventual downfall of the gang. It’s worth noting that his obsession and behavior for revenge eventually spread to all aspects of those who stood against them throughout the course of the game. When we finally see Colm hang, we don’t get that feeling of justice. One might feel sympathy for Colm in those last moments. Excellent work from Rockstar in that regard.

@ReitanaViscera

7 ай бұрын

I wouldn't go as far as to say I felt sympathy for Colm, but it definitely didn't feel all that rewarding watching him swing. all I can think about is how easily that could be dutch instead of colm, they're guilty of the same crimes, but dutch has this moral superiority that he hides behind, so I guess that makes it okay in everyone's eyes? I guess I'm thinking the van der linde gang is just as bad as the O'Driscolls, but the game still manipulates the player into thinking otherwise.

@drysoup3017

7 ай бұрын

​@@ReitanaViscerawell, its best to judge people based on their actions rather than their beliefs right? Like nearly everyone in the gang is guilty of sin in some manner or another.

@VGamingJunkieVT

7 ай бұрын

I felt relieved that Colm can't go after them anymore, mostly. A bit of gratification for what happened to Kieran and Arthur, admittedly. Kieran was nice, he deserved better.

@bungiecrimes7247

7 ай бұрын

​@@ReitanaVisceraI think manipulation was what the writers were going for.

@user-jo3tn6cu4n

6 ай бұрын

game doesn't manipulate players, game shows the players that two gangs are actually different, its like bad cop and good cop, both are cops but their approaches are different, we see this at the very start of the game, what did o'driscolls do to sadie? threw her into basement and killed her husband then occupied their home, god knows what they'd do to her if dutch's gang didn't arrive, in fact i think we can all think of few terrible things gang of guys would do to her, anyway to her luck dutch and his gang arrives and kill them then micah had his idiotic moment and burns the house down (on accident), now if dutch was a depraved piece of shit with no morals they'd most likely do henious acts to her and then either kill her or let her freeze but they didn't, both dutch and arthur genuinely cared about her fate and took her in, both arthur and dutch display basic human decency while also being outlaws, most of the gang constantly struggles with this same issue, yesterday while playing i've read arthurs journal and he was remarking how charles is a good person after arthur and charles save the german family while setting up new camp, arthur writes how charles is pure hearted while he (arthur himself) constantly struggles bettween good and evil in his heart, mary linton also writes how "theres a good man inside of you arthur, but hes wrestling with a giant" you can also find old newspapers in camp talking about gangs first robbery and how they gave money to the poor, van der lindes started off as robin hood like gang, groups usually reflect their leaders and this is the case with van der lindes, they're mostly similiar to dutch its the way he made them, some are worse some are better like all groups but dutch was more of a dreamer and ideologist than "i just want money" type, he believed in actual societal changes and stuff while colm was a pure bred outlaw who just grabbed money wherever he could colm also didn't care about who he recruits so you both had decent folk like kieran or psychopaths, rapists and god knows what else, dutch picked his recruits very carefully anyway to cut this short what im trying to say is that dutch's gang WAS different than colm's their fundementals were different and dutch was indeed a decent or even a good person at some point or at the very least dutch had good ideas and good intentions, the problem is that in the end dutch turned into colm if not worse (like how he manipulated the indians int owar) and that was his downfall, dutch and micah gang on that mountain towards end of the game was just like o'driscolls, dutch stopped being dutch, he ruined himself and eventually became just another outlaw who died brutally.@@ReitanaViscera

Aurther to me seemed to stopped caring after Guarma, because thats when he realized Dutch had lost any logical thinking.

@Everyonesbuddy829

7 ай бұрын

AURTHER!

@kaydens6964

6 ай бұрын

Arthur is not a smart person, Dutch is the brain of the operation. Making sure Colm doesnt escape is 100% the right call here, as well as killing Cornwall. The gang was on its way out until Arthur showed up breaking it apart by calling Micah a rat, followed by John walking back with a Pinkerton squad.

@jamesdillon637

6 ай бұрын

​@@kaydens6964 Trust me arthur was smart he just played dumb even hosea said it to him multiple times

@kaydens6964

6 ай бұрын

@@jamesdillon637 Arthur was one of the top guns in his time with excellent combat intelligence, but this is not the same as the intelligence required to run a gang like Dutch/Hosea, the fact that he called Micah a rat out of personal hatred and an enemy’s words is proof for that. Dutch suspected that John was the rat, why didn’t he just go ask Milton?

@xytech7432

6 ай бұрын

​@kaydens6964 an enemy who had no reason to lie. Milton had Arthur at Gun Point and if it wasn't for Abigail he would of died. Milton had no logical reason to lie at this point. Dutch is not very intelligent, hell Lenny even more intelligent. Dutch and Hosea are con man, and continue to make grave mistakes because of pride and arrogance.

Arthur said in the beginning that “revenge is a fool’s game” and it very much is- and it’s what ultimately led to John getting killed in RDR1 after he decided to go after Dutch and Micah in the epilogue.

@cosmonauthal7651

5 ай бұрын

Ironically I believe Arthur says it because Dutch used to say it. And to piggyback off of the idea of revenge getting everyone killed, Arthur I just noticed seems to be the only one who actually managed to save the people he wanted to and got them all out clean. (Saddie, Charles, John, Uncle, Abigail, Jack, Elizbeth, etc) because he was the only one who didn't believe in revenge or never succumbs to it even his "dishonorable" ending is just not helping John and grabbing money not killing Dutch or Micha or anyone. It is a cool theme that plays throughout both games.

Arthur has never liked revenge quite frankly he was over the o'driscoll fued long before he saw colm hang. I think it has to do with how his son Isaac and his mother Eliza died. When he talks about how they died it sounds like he went after them and realized how empty it all was but he is still heartbroken and angry over it

@BrickDaniels-qu7bz

7 ай бұрын

They killed Arthur's family?

@jujubees5855

7 ай бұрын

​@@BrickDaniels-qu7bz yup. A waitress he met and their child. He told that during the ride with Rains Fall.

@CT_Rex_Fett

7 ай бұрын

​@@BrickDaniels-qu7bzYea His Family Was Killed But He Didn't Say It Was The O'Driscolls

@ashtonhaggitt216

7 ай бұрын

​@@CT_Rex_Fettpretty sure they died of illness, not the O'Driscolls

@SamFromMaryland

7 ай бұрын

​@@ashtonhaggitt216it wasn't illness. He even tells rains that they were killed for a small amount like 10 dollars

I honestly think that colm being there was just another dark mirror for the gang. semi Organized, massive, and vicious beyond belief. Not as mindlessly evil as the murfree brood, the nightfolk, or the skinnered brothers. But DEFINITELY worse than most of the other gangs. The way they killed and paraded Keirin's corpse is a textbook example. I mean how much hate must it to it take a corpse in full rigar, keep it perseved, then monted in a specific pose on horseback, just as a final "f you" before attempting to kill everyone at the camp?! Hosea's comment about "finding and making dragons" is given form here...some times we find it, other times? The dragon lives inside us. We have to wrestle with it no different than Arthur and his giant.

Mary Beth said it best. "Oh Arthur, you might be the only fool here who knows how lost he is" Arthur knew the world didn't want them and Colm was a minor problem compared to the world closing in on them.

@juicedgoose

7 ай бұрын

She was kind of right, but Arthur didn't truly know how lost he was until he saw Dutch for who he really was, that everything was built on lies.

@manbearpig342

7 ай бұрын

@juicedgoose true. He seemed to know the world didn't want them and their time was coming but had faith Dutch would find a way. Eventually like you said he saw the lies.

@PissBreakSupervisorOleHopkins

5 ай бұрын

​​@@juicedgoose with the amount of times ive replayed rdr2 ive realized dutch didn't trust arthur or even hosea early into the game maybe even before the game takes place one reason i think is because of black water both were not apart of it and were trying another job. On my most recent play through when you are leaving the mountians i noticed one that ealry dutch says it in kinda of a joking way but he tell arthur he doesn't want him to ride with him because he can ride with hosea because he knows they like to remember the old days and talk about how dutch is messing everything up

@michaelw6277

4 ай бұрын

@@PissBreakSupervisorOleHopkinsyeah on the second play-through that line does hit different. Despite that I still feel like Hosea grounded Dutch as he didn’t become fully unhinged until he was gone. With Arthur though… it’s like he never stopped seeing Arthur like a child, as someone small and inexperienced and not worth listening to. Like a parent who never moves on from thinking they know better than their child, despite the child becoming grown and experienced in life.

Seeing this scene the first time was oddly dark even for RDR2. Colm O'Driscoll, Dutch Van Der Lind's long time rival, multiple escapes from the gallows finally gets hanged for his crimes. The part that made it kinda sad was him thinking he was gonna get out of it again but he looks around, sees Sadie and Dutch with two of his boys and as a final prayer in his men he looks at the rooftop and just sees Arthur "huge balls" Morgan and realizes its over, theres no getting out of this one. The genuine fear and panic in his eyes and expressions in his face of "Im gonna die...im gonna die... Jesus Christ im actually gonna die" is some of the most real looking animations from any game ive personally played.

@IMADINOSAURNOTABIRD

21 күн бұрын

It’s not animations. It’s acting through motion capture

Arthur didn't care about Colm because he knew it was pointless. It was just Dutch looking for a cheap victory. Colm's swinging body wasn't going to chase the Pinkertons off, or turn the ship away from the iceberg.

@xanshen9011

7 ай бұрын

If anything it would increase the amount of attention to the van der linde gang with the destruction of another major outlaw gang like the o’driscolls.

@mixkid3362

7 ай бұрын

@@xanshen9011 Exactly. That's why Arthur couldn't give two shits.

@TheWilku22

7 ай бұрын

​@@xanshen9011yes, this! Killing Colm was dumb because essentialy we did job for the Pinkertons and thanks to that they could allocate more resources to start chasing Dutch and his gang. Besides that, Arthur knew hating Colm was pointless because not only Artie would die soon but also because gang life is brutal and sooner or later one side would do something bad to the second side, and the second side would do the same to the first. Hating was pointless because it was blinding them. It was better to just get angry and ready to fight than just blindly hating and doing dumb things, like Dutch helping (accidentally) Pinkertons

It's nice to watch these videos and analyze this amazing story. Especially since I almost exclusively play RDR2 now in Chapter 2 (prior to saving Micah) when things are still good. The game is ostensibly a hunting/gambling/riding simulator for me now. I have numerous save files labeled in folders according to chapter and circumstance. If I ever progress too far and things start getting depressing, I go back to the basics in chapter 2, usually after the hunting trip with Hosea so I always have a means to brush my horse. I imagine one day I'll bite the bullet and finish it again, but until then these excellent videos will suffice to remind me of the story.

Despite feuding for many years, it felt like it all ended with a whimper. It was more closure for Sadie whom was just a recent victim. The biggest worry was the House of Dutch facing destruction at that time.

I think one aspect of Colm that most people miss, as it’s some dialogue in a fishing mission with Javier, is that Dutch and Colm weren’t always at odds. In fact I think during the fishing mission Arthur says they were even almost friends or acquaintances at the least, and that Colm ran with them for a bit-probably before Colm had his own established gang. I think there’s a good chance that Arthur may have even liked Colm before the feud. I also think it’s quite likely that Dutch treated Colm much like he treated Bronte. We know Dutch started it by killing Colm’s brother, and I have no doubt Dutch viewed it as a necessary “it’s him or me” murder. Most of the gang members like Javier joined after the feud had started, which is why they harbored more hatred toward the O’Driscolls than Arthur or John seemed to have. They knew a time before the feud, while when the others joined were probably immediately told that Colm and his gang are their mortal enemies.

@NikkolasKing

5 ай бұрын

Arthur's account of Dutch and Colm falling out is "Colm's mean streak got meaner." kzread.info/dash/bejne/aaphsZqIeqTWY7Q.html It sounds to me like they did something awful to provoke Dutch.

@ghostisdead2676

2 ай бұрын

Loyalty and faith

@learyt9665

Ай бұрын

I think i remember arthur saying there's a conflict between their way being a gang Dutch: wanted to rob people for money without making killing innocent people While colm want to rob and doesn't care if he kill people for money as long he got the money he don't give a f and i think those different ideology make them fight with each other

@SergeantExtreme

26 күн бұрын

@@NikkolasKing Ironically, Dutch's mean streak would get meaner.

bro is uploading on christmas. That is dedication

Your videos are so underrated

@CynicGTA

7 ай бұрын

Ayyyyyeeee, thank you

This video is an excellent analysis of a complex group of relationships. Good work.

Best RDR2 Channel in the game keep them coming. 🐐

I really enjoy these videos. Merry Christmas and thank you!

Really enjoy your videos it gets me pumped to play

Revenge is a fools game. Took me a long time to learn that myself

In my opinion, Colm's boys are literally the equivalent of part time employees saying "Dude I just work here"

Another fantastic video

Colm was Dutch enemy and rival. Not Arthur's

listening to this and playing RDR2 on my new monitor my dad got me merry christmas to all❤️

@CynicGTA

7 ай бұрын

Merry Christmas to you and your family

It’s really good writing when you notice how at the start of somebody’s first play through, they hate Colm like Arthur does, and by the time he gets hanged, the player too does not care about Colm really either.

@cosmonauthal7651

5 ай бұрын

There is defienelty some satisfaction from watching a man thinking he is so god damn untouchable to be brutally reminded of the fact he is not, in the worse way at the worst time. But yeah in terms of Cole I kinda liked him tbh in all the interactions he seemed to at least know he is a bad man.

@montserratmarroquin400

Ай бұрын

At that point in chapter 6, nobody really gave a damn about Colm cuz we had bigger problems, such as the Pinkertons, so if hanging Colm would have been in chapter 2 or 3 then we would have cared more

Magnificent. Thank you.

that part though where he was getting hanged - where he realized no one was coming to save him - felt so real to me, like i legit saw so much emotion in his face, it was awesome but also very sad..

Always thought it was interesting that dutch and colms outfits are very similar even how they wear their guns

I hv never been this early before , can never have too much RDR content

@CynicGTA

7 ай бұрын

I never upload this early either. And no…can never have too much RDR

My fav rdr2 content

@CynicGTA

7 ай бұрын

What you mean by that? *side eyes*

Merry christmas everyone

Basically for the same reason you don't care about stuff like getting an episode of your favourite TV show spoiled when that same day you've been told your mother has died.

You just reminded me to keep sub notifications on, lmao.

"But you killed his brother Dutch" Sounded like Arthur always had a soft spot for Colm to begin with. Or at the very least, understood why the man hated Dutch so much. My guess is Annabelle was killed due to Dutch killing the brother, however Dutch does not see it or tell it like that.

1:20 Robo does speak English a couple missions before the debt collection he’s literally in a cutscene speaking English to the gang in Valentine

The change in Arthur after he's officially diagnosed with TB is understandable. For the 1st time in his life, he is coming to terms with his deeds and knows the end is coming. For an outlaw, not knowing if the next bullet has your name on it and if it does, it's an instant "lights out" vs a slow, drawn-out death from TB gives him time to reflect. Especially if plating as a high honor character, you see him confess his previous evil ways to the nun

I usually make a point to put one through Colms heart at the start of the firefight when he swings. Just to make sure 😅

0:00 my game glitched out during this cutscenes, two versions played back to back

“Revenge is a luxury we can’t afford”

i think it falls to one simple thing, revenge can feel good in the moment, but once you've finally had it, then what? what happens when the thing you fought so hard for at the cost of many lives, lives of people you cared for and loved, what happens then? what is your drive once you've finally taken away the one thing that kept you going, you finally got what you want sure but whose left to celebrate it with you?

@Journey_Awaits

6 ай бұрын

Ever played conan exiles. Nearly every killed character you can make into a trophy. You can kill players and literally make them into sausages or bone decorations. That’s what you do when you are finished with revenge. Expand the collection and gaze upon your power and always be on the lookout to do it again.

"Which one". When Dutch says to Colm about stealing from them during their standoff is the moment still on every replay where I remember just how likable and quick Dutch can be even to his enemies who just might gun him down in the next five seconds.

“Ah I’ll be okay”

Can you make a video on what if Dutch never met Micah and was never in the gang

@ashtonhaggitt216

7 ай бұрын

Why?

Arthur is the John Wick of the RDR world.

I think Arthur understood that what Dutch did about Colm's brother was enough to expect a retaliation from him. He even says so at the very first chapter.

ill be honest, dutch pretty much convinced me to join the colm hate train full speed near the time of his hanging, at least until he was gone. prob cuz of the kidnapping and how sympathetic i was to sadie, because goddamn if this didn't feel good for her of all people (i love sadie). that scene where colm sees all of his men aka his escape routes have been foiled and realizes he's going to die was just so, so beautiful. major props to whoever's face they had to mocap. in retrospect though, that moment colm has before he hangs really reflects on dutch a lot more. how yeah, neither of them were all that great, but dutch had become so ruthless and irrational that he realized exactly who he was fighting against this whole time, exactly what the stakes were just a bit too late. that moment is beautiful still and even more because we can read an entire lifetime and weight through his fear that must contain all the complex emotions and stories and sins that we've played through ourselves, and seeing ourselves so deeply in him, us as the audience are the only ones that get to ask ourselves the question, "do we deserve it too?" - and only _we_ do because dutch and sadie are blinded by rage and revenge and barely looking at colm at this point, and arthur is too far away and disillusioned to even think about making out any of his microexpressions much less any facial expressions. that moment on colm's face is when he is truly, utterly, the most alone he could ever be. no one will know how fearful he looked in his last moments of life, and at the time, i was essentially converted into feeling really, really good about it. but the more i dealt with dutch, the less i could savor any victory we might've had here. shit, sadie cutting off the entire o'driscoll bloodline (so-to-speak) was more rewarding than this hanging.

Something about luxury's we can't afford

1:27 MONEHHH

Because they had bigger problems and it wasn’t worth it

It might not have been fully necessary but it’s still the best scene in the entire game

It was never Arthur’s concern. The feud is based on some petty bullshit between Dutch and colm, I believe dutch killed colms brother and colm killed one of Dutch’s lovers or something. Basically it has nothing to do with Arthur, therefore he has no emotional attachment to the conflict outside of being loyal to Dutch

After Winton Holmes is killed by the cougar you can go through his horses saddle. That mf had a gold nugget. He could've paid his debt.

@IMADINOSAURNOTABIRD

21 күн бұрын

I mean, gold nuggets are only worth $25. His debt was $38, so he wouldn’t have been able to pay it.

“Tuberculosis Diagnosis”

He knew that revenge was a fools game

i was kinda on dutch’s side, watching Colm hang though. Just watching him be all smug and then looking around wondering where all his men were and realizing nobody was about to save him this time, causing him to have his reality seep in to him before his last moments. It made me smile

1:29 im sorry i had to

You just answered your own question in the title of the video

I think it wax because Dutch was the only person who was really involved with the rivalry but Arthur saw innocent people like Kieran die because of it

Arthur didn’t care about Colm’s death because he knew there were much bigger problems than Colm

The fued with Colm meant more to Dutch than it did to anyone in the gang, it's no wonder Arthur would try to appeal to reason.

He cared in chapter 1 and 2

Think he got sick by the guy Strauss sent him to beat up to get the money but he ended up dying

RDR3,if one, is going to be about Colm's Brother calling it.

Because Arthur never hated him, just disliked and didnt cared about him. Arthur knew its better to just get money and gtfo should be a priority now, not killing somebody. Maybe ten or fifteen years earlier Arthur would agree with Dutch and even be happy, but in 1899 Arthur knew already that he and other Wild West gangsters are a thing from the past and everything becomes more modern by day. Its pointless to just murder your enemies because all you do is helping the feds. Less gangsters means you'll be their next target. Arthur learned from Dutch - Revenge is fools game, but Dutch forgot his own teachings because he wanted to get one cheap win. Also, Arthur knew Dutch is not the only person in this beef that got hurt. Colm also lost a loved one and he also had right to kill Dutch, but instead of that he tried to capture him and trade him for his own freedom. I think Arthur just had enough of Dutchs bullshit and victim card usage as well.

@IMADINOSAURNOTABIRD

21 күн бұрын

⁠@@magicgang576L😊

Arthur even said that Colm didnt seem such worry as a pinkertons but i dont fully agree with that, O'Driscolls found a camp at shady belle and tried to kill everyone there i think Colm was the problem but not in chapter 6, Dutch wanted to kill him just for vengeance, Arthur just saw him swing and just wanted to let go of the beef that lasted many years

Anyone else here believe that Cynic should be the voice of the next protagonist?

I think he just knew that colm's death wasn't actually that important compared to the pinkertons honestly. they had FAR bigger problems and colm escaping wasn't one of them

colm was not the real enemy

Merry Christmas, have a sub! :)

@CynicGTA

7 ай бұрын

Merry Christmas!

I'm final chapter Arthur knew that 100% he will die soon. That's why he tried to do good things in the end and stop killing folks

But how about all the time that Arthur attacked O'Dricoll camps, killing everyone in increasingly, sick, twisted and sadistic manners? ....or was that just me?

@LosHitman

7 ай бұрын

That was at the start of the game plus Dutch made him do it

Ok

It was unnecessary revenge at a time where Colm was the least of their problems. Helped to show Dutchs hypocrisy once again

I mean colm deserve it that is really just it. A 10min video for this is not necessary. Like he tortured him, his people kill Ms Adler husband who was just someone living at his house and they came in. So it’s not like colm should be cared for. That’s why he doesn’t care like would you care if you saw the absolute fear in the eyes of a serial killer well no. Colm killed just bc, colm is the worst kind of outlaw, he lives for nothing else but his own gain. One less piece of shit in the world is what Arthur prolly thought of

@CynicGTA

2 ай бұрын

Content farming? How? This wasn’t a breakdown of “if Colm deserved to die or not”. This was a deeper look at Arthur questioning his loyalty. The very thing he held above all else. Something he struggles more with once he acknowledges how sick he is. The point of the video isn’t Colm’s fate. Its Arthur’s reflection on how much he probably never cared on a personal level of how “bad of a person Colm was”. It was Dutch’s fight not his.

@naderhmaidan6659

2 ай бұрын

@@CynicGTA I mean I’m pretty sure you repeated the loyalty thing like 10 times. The question is why did Arthur barely cared for his death?. If you’re gonna talk about it you gotta talk about the kind of person colm was. If he wasn’t loyal to Dutch he prolly wouldn’t go to the hanging but he wouldn’t have cared either way. You are content farming it doesn’t make you a bad person but it is what it is content farming.

To be fair you Can't really blame society and the authauritys for not forgetting what they did. Dutch kept causeing more and more damage to the point where hè could no longer be ignored by the law. Besides the opinion of the people hè wronged, institutions cant allow a potential threat to persist just because hè got what hè wanted and says hè will not be a problem. In other words, Dutch waffles about being good but in reality hè wants to continue living in a world where hè can do What hè wants to who ever hè wants without consequences , and when that stopped hè tryed butting heads with reality hopeing to win which is impossible and everyone else payed the price

i think the main reason Arthur didn't care about Colm's death was the fact that Colm's boys kidnapped him & Arthur had to escape from them. It also put an end to the feud between Colm & Dutch

Arthur fr the kinda guy to get deluded when he gets sick into turning over a new leaf and redeeming his soul instead of just getting regular delusional and insane. Madlad.

He was the leader of a rival gang and beat the snot out of Arthur.. There ya go folks... Saved ya 14 minutes of your life.

@WodinLugh

7 ай бұрын

Doesn't mean he hates him, did you watch the video or just hate commented it?

@JuicyJam

7 ай бұрын

@@WodinLugh doesn't mean he's gotta care either. Don't have to hate to be apathetic. Much like my comment lol.

@WodinLugh

7 ай бұрын

Not caring and not liking someone/something is 2 very different things, the video was talking about the change in Arthur and if he ever cared about Colm, your comment never stated that he didn't care, you said something implying that he hates him. Which Arthur stated multiple times AFTER being tortured by Colm that it wasn't his fight. You saved no ones time as your comment is invalid. Maybe you could state that he doesn't hate him, just doesn't care instead of being a condescending douche bag.@@JuicyJam

@JuicyJam

7 ай бұрын

@@WodinLugh I didn't imply anything. If you're reading between lines, that's your interpretation. You're right. I didn't say Arthur didn't care in my initial comment - I didn't have to. The name of the video is a question. And I answered it. It doesn't have to be a big grandiose explanation with all these whimsical connections. Merry xmas m8, take 'er easy.

@jujubees5855

7 ай бұрын

Some of us have inner monolgues and enjoy thinking things through. G0ddâmn normies and their lack of conditional thought. 😂

Idk how you feel bad about the people who borrowed money from the gang? It’s a simple borrow money pay it back when you’re supposed to? Don’t like it go to the bank