Can I just say seeing a duel where the force is used so much is so cool, like we rarely see the force being used in duels, mainly in the live action stuff anyway

@donstarlancer

2 жыл бұрын

completely agree

@Devon.with.an.i

2 жыл бұрын

It was cool to see but Obi Wan shouldn’t have been able to lift all of those boulders at once. Doesn’t really fit his character

@notsoepicgamer5420

2 жыл бұрын

@@Devon.with.an.i I think it does in this scenario. Obi Wan remembered what he was fighting for (Leia and Luke) and used that to fuel him so he could beat Vader and stay alive to keep those kids safe. He starting using the force and also become more offensive so he could be there for Leia and Luke in the future

@thevinceberry

2 жыл бұрын

@@Devon.with.an.i This move is in a lot of the SW game. Just because George Lucas didn't thought about using this move in his movies doesn't mean it don't fit for Obi-wan especially a Jedi master

@doublydying2686

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like after order 66 alot of Jedi realized that emotion isn't always a bad thing. Having a reason to fight and to live is a powerful motivator

Truly heart breaking. His brother, his friend. It sounded like Anakin tried to reach through to tell his master it wasnt his fault. However he is so twisted at this stage the dark side has consumed him.

@charlesbeck5511

2 жыл бұрын

That is a great point. Expecially with the light on his face changing from blue to red as well as his eye as he spoke.

@TYLERtheMAGGOT1

2 жыл бұрын

The voice change and red gave me chills. It's kind of like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. I love it

@entertainmentgaming8738

2 жыл бұрын

I think it sounded like that because that's exactly what happened. Like, there can't be any confusion about it. Its like writing this comment, and saying "I think it was me that wrote this comment"

@ShEDDiNgmYSkiN

2 жыл бұрын

Twisted and evil.

@jongbong1912

2 жыл бұрын

All those classic scenes of friendship in the movies, thr gundarks, the nest of gundarks, and the gundarks nest, we never see it, but they mention it in the elevator, that nest eh, what a friendship

I feel like when Vader says "I am not your failure obi-wan, you didn't kill Anakin Skywalker, I did" Just that... is kind of a big deal. Because this whole time Obi-wan is beating himself up about him failing Anakin... and personally... I think inside of Vader's head, Anakin knew this, that he was blaming himself for what Vader became, and told him it wasn't his fault. like he didn't fail Anakin, his friend. So he can rest easy, and only afterwards, Vader, realizing Anakin said that to make his master feel better, turns it into a threat "the same way I will destroy you" Just my vision on it... and personally it makes sense.

@HakrTheAnimator

2 жыл бұрын

I like that

@martyplays4935

2 жыл бұрын

This is canon for me now, no one can convince me otherwise

@angin3057

2 жыл бұрын

That is what lead into Kenobi telling Luke that he knew his father, and he was killed by Vader...in a sense this last scene gives the audience that closure and refrences to what he told him. Later when Luke learns the truth and confronts kenobi (ghost) he explains that Anakin IS Vader, and that when he became Vader...he essentially kill the man who was once Anakin.

@mrnixon2287

2 жыл бұрын

in a way Anakin forgives Ob-wan in that moment or removes the guilt of failing his padawan anakin. this moment was so important for their future outlook and relationship... anakin is truely dead, only vader remains.

@cadengericke5652

2 жыл бұрын

That may be a good point

I loved that they waited until this episode to give us the Vader theme song when he is sitting on his throne on Mustafar. I remember wishing they played it when they first introduced him into the series but it makes it so much better when it symbolizes his full transition into Vader.

@alextrill5829

2 жыл бұрын

Padawan tier: Imperial March Master tier: Vader theme song

@armaniwebb4467

2 жыл бұрын

Hence why I been telling you all to wait for the story to flesh out, but people want to hate

@kentkeeler9010

2 жыл бұрын

@@armaniwebb4467 I have been saying since week one to just watch the entire thing. Problem is, people even now are saying it was a trash series. I for one think it was damn near a masterpiece and I would watch 100 seasons of it

@Xavier28200

2 жыл бұрын

@@kentkeeler9010 I think they should only have 1 season whats season gonna be it can't be vader

@kentkeeler9010

2 жыл бұрын

@@Xavier28200 They can show Kenobi's reconnection with the Force via talking to Qui Gon Jinn. For all we know, Kenobi didn't stay on Tatooine during the entirety of his isolation. It could easily be written in that he traveled to Jedi temples and Force sensitive worlds to train...and perhaps he could briefly take on Reva as an apprentice to properly teach her the ways of the light.

I think Obi Wan tapped into the Jedi equivalent of a Sith's burning hatred and need for dominance; compassion, love, and protecting others from harm. While he was buried under the ground he thought of Luke and Leia. I remember Anakin once said compassion/unconditional love is essential to a Jedi and Kenobi found it in that moment, becoming more powerful than he was during the Clone Wars. He became what Anakin saw him as; powerful as Windu and wise as Yoda. On the other hand I also believe Vader becomes unbalanced when people tied to his past are involved. Ahsoka, Obi-Wan and Luke. Palpatine sees this flaw as well. Even the Grand Inquisitor looked like he felt something was off about Vader.

@beyond316

2 жыл бұрын

Really well said, I think part of it is people from hes past as anakin remind him of the person he was and how much he truly cared for others. But he’s done so much and has so many regrets that he’s afraid to become that person again and believes it’s too late. That’s why he said to luke it’s too late for him

@nuclearlefthook5008

2 жыл бұрын

Also, Qui-Gon might've aided him

@turbogrim3754

2 жыл бұрын

@@beyond316 I think it's because Anakin is very compassionate, he cares alot about the ones he loves, and like we know that anakin never really was gone, this side of him comes back when he encounters those person just before Vader takes back control and tries to end them once and for all

@eds1942

2 жыл бұрын

Vader can’t fully let go of Anakin’s attachments. For the Sith, attachments are a weakness. So, a Sith must eliminate their’s. For the Jedi, attachments can conflict with your duty and clarity of mind. So, a Jedi must be willing to let go of their’s. They are two sides of the same coin.

@Hillbilly-Tech

2 жыл бұрын

I want to believe Vader doesn't have Anakin's agility.

One could say that this last fight teaches Vader his final lesson. Obsession and uncontrolled emotion did not benefit Vader. This will be why the next times we see Vader, even when facing Obi-Wan in Ep IV, he will not make this mistake again.

@chikushodiz91

2 жыл бұрын

@@anthonylovett1779 wait you think he was patient and had mercy lol you really don’t know what you are talking about

@robrorry2841

2 жыл бұрын

He was supposed to have learned this after his fight with Kenobi on Mustafar, but apparently now he makes the same mistake twice and has no development for the past 10 years.

@2gunzup07

2 жыл бұрын

Obi wan was old as shit. Vader ain't beating anybody strong only younglings and jedi nobodies

@charlesruffing5606

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah he finally turned Good and it made him stronger.

@2gunzup07

2 жыл бұрын

@Thisis Gettinboring obi was old and vastly weaker plus wanted to become a force ghost. Yoda who trained Luke was old and dying couldn't best vader at that point.

Obi-Wan's duel with Vader is a prequel to Luke Skywalker's duel against his father and the Emperor. This dynamic duel suggests that giving in to hate will only lead to the path of destruction. Anakin was deeply rooted in hate against the Jedi and his master Obi-Wan he was misled to believe that turning to the dark side was his only way to avenge himself. Luke, unlike his father, took the heed from Obi-Wan and master Yoda, and was able to overcome the emperor in the Return Of The Jedi and saving his father as well. The stark comparison is that while one uses the force for personal gain, the other uses it to save others. The wise Yoda's words came true, Anakin was deeply rooted in pain and suffering. He cannot be help.

@OWmyDragonballz

Жыл бұрын

So did Vader lose to Luke in ROTJ in the same way Vader lost to Obi Wan in ROTS and Kenobi series?

@billnyethenggrguychinesega9116

Жыл бұрын

Anakin definitely had issues, suffering and pain etc. But he was also failed by the Jedi Order

I really enjoyed episodes 5 and 6, and even 1-4 were entertaining, its just that some goofy scenes threw me off (leia chase scenes, and that escape from fortress inquisitorius). I think this series would have been rated much higher if they went netflix style and released all episodes at once. I sincerely hope we get a season 2.

@jeffarab4947

2 жыл бұрын

Yes ur right. And they confirm s2 is what I heard wow cant wait

@anthonygordon9483

2 жыл бұрын

neflix is the only ones that got it right. If Dark was a week episode it would of got less reviews.

@maxpowers4436

2 жыл бұрын

People seem to act like there arnt goofy scenes in OT and prequels. Jar jar, Ewoks list goes on. Star wars is goofy it meant to be modern fantasy and tap into our lizard brain of good and evil.

@Blackmystix

Жыл бұрын

@@maxpowers4436 damn you right

When Vader says “I am not your failure obiwan”…that was definitely anakin. Deep down, there is still love with these characters and that’s why they can’t finish each other off. People got so mad when Vader let Kenobi go in episode 3 of the show, but to me, it made perfect sense. Vader can’t stand what Kenobi did to him, but he will always be his master and he will always have respect for him. And when Kenobi is around, that light side comes out so much that even Vader can’t resist.

@amoghsawant3801

2 жыл бұрын

True according to yoda vader became blank after obiwan death

@anthonyr.8598

2 жыл бұрын

Bro, when he said “I am not your failure” that hit me deep in the feels.

@michacieslak2346

2 жыл бұрын

'I'm not your failure' was 100% Anakin brief resurface. It was him trying to take Obi Wan's guilt, it was like 'it's okay master, I forgive you, it's not your fault'. But, obviously, his Vader persona was too strong to let go of hate and rage, but I'm convinced it was Anakin, not Vader saying that. Plus I think it pretty much confirms Anakin and Vader are like two people, split personality. Plus, I don't know, maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I had a feeling, like with this teasing at the end 'I will destroy you', Vader was basically begging Obi Wan to kill him. He must've known he's lost already, he was barely standing and when Obi Wan turned his back and walked away, he didn't do anything. If he was so sure he'll destroy Obi Wan, why not attack then? I have a feeling like death would've been soothing for him, in that moment.

@newdayproduce3666

2 жыл бұрын

That was really like a moment of forgiveness. It looks to me like Anakjn/Vader serves Sidious out of fear now rather than loyalty or any other mutual feeling. His whole transformation was because he wanted to save Padme. He failed, he made he choice and he follows up. I think a lot of his anger is really just that he is angry at his own decisions because he knows he was wrong and stupid and he takes it out on everyone else.

@williamnettleton3413

2 жыл бұрын

This is even further proven as a point when Vader when talking to palpetine renounces his old master and the Vader revenge he had. Palps knew obi wan brought the light out in Anakin, and would rather have obi wan alive then let Vader get sucked into his internal conflict. Just let the hate of Vader grow and pain of Vader grow not based on revenge.

I like how this fight scene and the flashbacks to the training room give a canonical reason why their rematch in A New Hope is so much slower than all the other lightsaber duels. Anakin/Vader underestimated Obi Wan twice and was absolutely wrecked each time. Rather than his usual aggressive fighting style and going straight for for the kill he is much more calm and reserved during their fight on the Death Star, choosing to deliver a number of soft strikes to test Obi Wan and see what he’s up against. It gives more meaning to the line “I was but the learner, now I am the master” an it seems he finally learned the lesson Obi Wan tried to give him as a Padawan about not letting his need for victory blind him.

@MA16v3

2 жыл бұрын

Also if Vader tried to make sink holes on the Death Star, he'd kill basically everyone around him and potentially even destroy the station. He may see the Death Star as nothing more than a useful tool, yet still inferior to what can be done with The Force, but he still has to do the bidding of papa Palps and Palps wants a Death Star.

@geovanymartinez175

2 жыл бұрын

Or maybe it's just terrible choreography

@nicksnovelreviews8733

2 жыл бұрын

Well said!

@Goldenlevel555

2 жыл бұрын

That Vader vs Kenobi remake is considered my headcanon

@paulmarshall8015

2 жыл бұрын

That was actually fixed, in exactly the same way, in a novel. It's from Obi's point of view, and he quickly realizes that Vader is simply matching his power. Like you said, Obi Wan quickly realizes his arms are burning, he can't breathe, and Vader's strikes require copious draws on the force just to parry. When Vader refuses to press the advantage, and simply continues to batter and beat him, he knows he can't defeat him which leads to his sacrifice

The acting by the two warriors was truly a legendary moment.... The acting by both of them could be felt through the screen!!! To see a true Jedi master again on screen was amazing.... I have nothing but pity for Vader, what a wretched soul.....?

@LukeJT22

2 жыл бұрын

Funny you say that because I was just thinking yesterday about how Anakin/Vader is kind of a victim if you think about it. Manipulated by Palpatine from a young age into becoming his apprentice and as a result he makes a bunch of bad decisions out of anger, fear and hate which lead to him losing everything, including body parts. Now he lives every day in pain and agony and he's so consumed by the dark side that he knows he can't come back. So he embraces the anger and hate and the newfound darkness within him. Yes Anakin is still responsible himself for his own decisions, he could have tried to save Padme in a different way or not cut off Mace Windu's hand. But if he had never been manipulated in the first place, would he still have gone down that path? If the answer is no, then he is, "From a certain point of view" a victim.

@spectreninesix1335

2 жыл бұрын

@@LukeJT22 100% a victim his want to be a jedi master and be the best and always wanting to win made yin easily turned and manipulated. If they made him a master Anakin would've fought the sith not joined Them . He is still the chosen one who brought the balance to the force .

@danmarusan2878

Жыл бұрын

@Xylus a victim of: - Palpatine's manipulations - Too high expectations - Doubt and distrust - His own emotions - His own arrogance

I think it is that part of his hatred comes from a place of love. So he has the grief over not just Padme, but of his brother/master as well that fuels him. He sees it as only rage so he is blinded to the rest of it and is weaker. On the flip side. Those emotions and that compassion are part of why Kenobi never finished Vader when he could have.

Everyone has missed a huge part. Earlier Kenobi had a monologue with qui gon where he basically says "One of us will die" The end of this fight was the equivalent of Kenobi killing Anakin, leaving Vader alive. Which is why he only refers to him as Darth from that point on.

@trevturp6891

2 жыл бұрын

Kenobi didn’t kill Anakin.

@_erenpunk_2511

2 жыл бұрын

Just Kenobi came to terms that Anakin was no more.

@kabosui

2 жыл бұрын

@@trevturp6891 vader did

@stabngab

2 жыл бұрын

lol no offense but you'd have to be asleep to miss that...

@MrJOKERZ68

2 жыл бұрын

Anakin killed Anakin, now it's only Darth Vader did you watch the episode

During this fight, I really think that Vader was in an emotional turmoil with his old self when it came to Obi-Wan, the Inquisitor told him on the battleship what was the practical thing to do but Vader shoved him aside and decided to use his emotions, especially when he buried his former master under the rubble but underestimated him once again (or overestimaed himself). And later, you can see that Obi-Wan got his "power up" as soon as he remembered Luke and Leia and his oath to protect them which means that deep down it's his attachement and care for them that made him so powerful and his return as the powerful Jedi master he's known for. This also reminded me of Luke when he defeated Vader and brought back Anakin into the light, through his attachement to his dad and sister.

@leogolive

2 жыл бұрын

I thought Jedi weren’t supposed to have attachments?

@ZrodyApo

2 жыл бұрын

@@leogolive it is yes but it's a flaw in their teaching and that's what led Anakin to the dark side, they constantly told him to shove his attachments rather than understanding him or reassure him I mean with time I came to believe this, we also saw that with Ahsoka and I hope with Grogu as well

@kiraxbara456blitz6

2 жыл бұрын

It's already 10 years, Vader isn't emotionally conflicted until Luke is introduced.

@leogolive

2 жыл бұрын

@@ZrodyApo That makes sense. I could never be a Jedi.

@naterybar9106

2 жыл бұрын

You're spot on man just like this video wave is correct in this video. I know Vader had to lose because of Canon and a new hope. But he ultimately lost because he was conflicted I think underneath that mask during the entire fight even though we couldn't see it until he got the ahsoka treatment that the inner turmoil and the inner battle between Anakin and Vader was really evident I mean because you don't see Vader's eyes first thing you see anakins and then slowly vader starts taking over. He wasn't fully enveloped in the dark side during this fight or in his entire run as Darth Vader the rest of his days he was always conflicted. The Marvel comic books he's a true powerhouse as he should be, I mean some of the stuff that he does in the Marvel comics are insane and I'm not complaining because it's awesome to Vader really powerful like that, but here in the live action even sidious realized Anakin was peeking through more so than Vader that's why he was sensing the power difference just as wave stated. Now if Obi-Wan would have mentioned Padme I truly believe Vader would have went ballistic and comic book style on Obi-Wan

Anakin's emotions were his greatest strength and tragically his greatest weakness. This series was fantastic!

@ClassicTophatGaming

Жыл бұрын

One good moment, doesn't make a bad show good my guy.

@IM_DraMattix

Жыл бұрын

Very true! Good thing I thought there were a couple good moments, like this fight and exchange, Vader Vs Reva was awesome, and even little Leia doing her thing 😊 but Reva surviving a stab and able to get all the way to Tatooine was VERY questionable 🤔

@seemev2.0phuckbootube78

Жыл бұрын

@IM_DraMattix there's no mention prior to this show that Obi was protecting the princess. He was to watch over Luke only. This ruins the whole story prior thank to the woke gay lesbian Kathleen Kennedy. She took the greatest franchise of all time and took a shite on it.

I honestly think they went about it the wrong way, I find it hard to believe that after 10 years of doing nothing he taps back into his powers within a few fights and now all of the sudden he’s more powerful then he ever was.

@jetuber

Жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@lightdarksoul2097

10 ай бұрын

Same happened with Cal so I think it makes sense. It's like getting back on a bike after ten years you remember that connection you used to have and can much easier get back to what you were

@dwking-pt8hg

8 ай бұрын

​@@lightdarksoul2097yea but to be on par with Vader is a huge stretch considering all the enemies Vader has taken down and learned from in his continued battles.

@lightdarksoul2097

8 ай бұрын

@@dwking-pt8hg yeah but none of those enemies had the effect on Vader that Obi Wan does. Even in the comics you see Vader screaming and fighting more messy when he things Obi Wan is involved

Vader knows he was wrong deep down, and he loves obi wan, but he knows there is no going back because he cannot defeat palpatine, and he has slaughtered innocents including children

@TheSF69

2 жыл бұрын

1. I dont think this describes Darth fkn Vaders Mental State 2. Vader+Obi Wan could imo beat Sidious but not the entire Empire

@Goregreet

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSF69 doubt it Palpatine is far more powerful than he cares to show

@turonwhitfield7917

2 жыл бұрын

And basically jumped and helped killed mace....you on point though he knows deep down he was wrong I don't think he don't think he can beat the emperor but it's more he went to far to turn back although he thinks but when it comes to ya kids he never even knew he had kids so that new information definitely was a game changer for his faith in the dark side

@ILoveBluePeople

2 жыл бұрын

@@Goregreet he got killed by a guy he purposely made weak to his most powerful attack ...

@Goregreet

2 жыл бұрын

@@ILoveBluePeople yes and he came back (And got rid of vader) I think he just wanted people to underestimate him And believe he was gone So he could continue his evil plans without anyone trying to disturb him I am also convinced he never showed his true power in canon He was probably the most manipulative being in the galaxy

“Then *my father* is truly dead” -Luke Skywalker “Then *my friend* is truly dead” -Obi Wan Kenobi

@TheFlowMind

2 жыл бұрын

Neither believed in what they said…

@jdmmike7225

2 жыл бұрын

"I am not your mistake." These 5 words speak volumes. Such a good line. And the crackling back and forth between his natural voice and the James Earl voice was so sick. Best Star Wars scene in a very long time imo.

@MrApexYT

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheFlowMind exactly! They both know their is still good in him, that is why they do not destroy him.

@Spannie

2 жыл бұрын

I think that Obi Wan needs to believe that but in actuality doesn't. Vader saying those words: I killed Anakin not you, says to me that he was almost trying to give Obi Wan a little comfort which is all Anakin and Obi Wan would know that. As I said, just like Luke when he says it about his father, they both need to believe that's the truth to give them strength to go forward and fight Vader. In all honesty I think that Obi Wan still believes in Anakin just as Luke did but is letting him go in order to protect the children and himself.

@jasonbryant.bassguitarplay3641

2 жыл бұрын

@@jdmmike7225 ohh wow!!! I can't wait to see that. Awesome

You also have to appreciate how closely the ending of the duel mirrored Vader vs. Ahsoka. Partial helmet knocked off, Anakin trying to fight to the surface of Vader, ultimately failing.

It's interesting that the Jedi failed to realize that LOVE - true, self-sacrificial LOVE - is what saved the galaxy and brought Vader back to the light side to bring balance to the force. The Jedi tried to stifle the love that Anakin had for his mother, wife, and unborn children. Instead of teaching him that love was about self-sacrifice, letting go, and being of service to others, their negligence let Palpatine influence Anakin, turning his love into a deeply self-centered, twisted possession and fear. Luke was willing to sacrifice himself to save his father, and in the end his father sacrificed himself to save his son. "The circle is now complete." God, I love the OT and the prequels. Note: if you want to understand *deeply* what I mean by "love," then look to the Christian definition of love. George Lucas was heavily influenced by Judeo-Christian mythology when writing the OT & Prequels.

@shadow0508

2 жыл бұрын

well said, this is why/how the Jedi were incredibly wrong and very much helped the events play out the way the did. The Sith were no good, but the jedi we messing up in so many ways that it led to everything that went down.

@kennethrutt7986

2 жыл бұрын

The same mistake Disney made with the sequels

@JETVISION1

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent summation. You're absolutely right.

@mrcaboosevg6089

2 жыл бұрын

Ever heard "love makes you do crazy things?", some truly awful things have been done for love

@DPham1

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrcaboosevg6089 that's NOT love. Like I said, it's a passionate, self-centered sense of possession and fear. That line is what abusers and emotionally undeveloped and toxic people say. Exactly, what the Sith are all about.

It’s actually impossible for Vader to beat Obi Wan it seems. I mean take away all the explanations and be practical, who can keep their composure while facing the guy that literally cut you to ribbons and let you burn. Obi Wan is literally Vader’s antithesis.

@electrowood3904

2 жыл бұрын

Also the fact anakin has been given a planet disadvantage both times, I'm convinced if u take off plot armour and put them on a flat bit of ground and just duel and force powers anakin would beat obi wan, high ground and emotions made him lose the first one, tight spaces when he's slower and less agile here and obi being able to use tons of rocks to throw him off too, obi wan seems to win by using the things around him more whereas anakin just seems to wanna duel 😂

@mysticalmagic9259

2 жыл бұрын

@@electrowood3904 Anakin used the environment plenty of times in this duel as well, but that's also part of it. In both duels, Obi-Wan was smarter and used the environment to his advantage, especially in Episode 3, where Anakin focused only on Obi-Wan while Obi-Wan fought smart, using the environment to his advantage.

@electrowood3904

2 жыл бұрын

@@mysticalmagic9259 yeah I agree that's part of it but what I mean is, the planets environment has definitely benefitted obi wan more, the spaces were too tight for vader due to his clunkiness and speed reduction and if anakin was in that placement instead of vader I reckon he could of won as he could of also been slicing the rocks thrown at him due to having that speed, obi wan had agility and speed which in a tight area very much benefits him, vader knew this and that's why he started using the force more to do better and win rather than keep dueling, in ep 3 anakin wouldn't of lost if there wasn't lava tbh, I get that is part of it but that's not my point, my point is planets have been his downfall most of the time tbh, if they fought on like hoth or tattooine he would probably win both of the duels, tattooine especially as he doesn't like sand so he would be annoyed and have a dark side amp 😂, but yeah you're right anakin focuses on obi wan too much rather than the area surrounding him, its like a bull and a red flag

@ThatThomasKID18

2 жыл бұрын

@@electrowood3904 yea that’s kinda my point, Obi Wan while he is emotionally invested in the fight it doesn’t blind him. Whereas Anakin/Vader is so blind to everything that he just focuses on Obi Wan. Even the whole part where the inquisitor is saying a single jedi doesn’t matter (even though we know this jedi does matter) in the context of that scene Obi wan doesn’t matter. Obi Wan used that to lure Vader away from the rebels he was wanted to confront Vader but that was secondary to allowing the rebels to escape. These two are perfect examples of jedi principles vs sith principles

@error9716

2 жыл бұрын

@@electrowood3904 All's fair on the battlefield. Vader/Anakin went into it headstrong, and i'd say it's purely on him (them?). Maybe he COULD win, but if he isn't able to pick and choose his battles and make it so his opponent doesn't have any particular advantage, he's just bound to lose.

I think this episode showed very clearly what HK-47 mentioned back in KOTOR: make a force user doubt themselves and the force, and their connection to the force will be severed, not only with Vader, but also with Obi-Wan. It also shows how Jedi get their strength from positive emotions, hope in this case. As soon as he gets that flash of hope he blows the rocks away and goes super saiyan on Vader.

I really enjoyed the show. But it’s a massive mistake obi wan beating this version of Vader. It really doesn’t add up. It also seems ridiculous he needs to train Luke to beat Vader when he can clearly do it himself on multiple occasions now.

@thelifeofpewpew3290

Жыл бұрын

Maybe he can physically beat Vader but not emotionally, he won't kill his old friend. And he send Luke not to kill Vader but to bring him back to the light imo

@johnradford5904

Жыл бұрын

My point being vaders force powers alone would overwhelm obi wan. He only just beat anakin when he was a kid. How does he beat this all powerful version of Vader. Also where does the show go from here if obi wan keep beat him any time of choosing.

@J1ocks

Жыл бұрын

@@johnradford5904 Vader was not at his most powerful, he still had feelings for obi-wan and that’s why he was so weak in this fight. This was the first time he’s seen him in a decade.

@warmice4136

Жыл бұрын

Can we agree With no plot, Vader claps obi wan extreme diff

@davidesteban191

Жыл бұрын

@@johnradford5904 What you on about? Obi wan beat anakin at his strongest, anakin in episode 3 was literally as strong or even stronger than sidius and obi wan beat him, Vader is actually weaker than anakin and obi wan beat him again, and George Lucas said that kenobi was actually stronger than Vader in episode 4, you all have it wrong and legends is not canon, but if we go by legends, then Starkiller was a light side user that could literally fuck any sith in existence, there were also a lot of jedi that could kill sith left and right in legends.

i legit cried watching this fight. It was everything i had ever wanted in star wars honestly. The emotions, cinematography, everything. From watching rebels, the prequels, and clone wars, this was the perfect way to finish off Kenobi's story and show just how truly heartbreaking and uplifting the journey was. This felt like the perfect conclusion to the original trilogy. I thank McGregor and Haden Christiansen for everything in this series. Now i just need a Maul series.

@BigboiiTone

2 жыл бұрын

They're building on the movies and the Clone Wars series in a way I didn't think we would ever get. I'm actually feeling excited about it

@Derek8487

2 жыл бұрын

Shit was intense. And when you can hear a bit of his normal voice after his helmet is damaged .

@BigboiiTone

2 жыл бұрын

@I'm not ya mate I'm ya father! Is that a joke I'm not understanding?

@tophfb

2 жыл бұрын

@@Derek8487 I thought the vocal layering they did was excellent. I don’t know why that had me so hype but anakin/vaders voice fading and blending was gnarly.

@thecrAZYconrade

2 жыл бұрын

It's not even over we're getting a live action ahsoka soon which would be badass Anakin versus ahsoka but sad at the same time

When it comes to Obi-Wan and Vader I’m always reminded of what Gandalf says to Frodo when he regrets that Bilbo had not killed Gollum. Deserves it? I daresay he does but even the wise cannot see all ends. Do not be so quick to visit death upon another, or words to that effect. Ultimately, it is Kenobi’s mercy and guilt that destroys the Sith and the Empire… until the dark times, until the sequels…

@salsaspartan7

2 жыл бұрын

Wow... :')

@carloscollazoii

2 жыл бұрын

So true!

@soldatheero

2 жыл бұрын

I thought of the same quote and said it while watching with my brothers as to why he may have let Vader live

@bintube5269

2 жыл бұрын

Except they can't expect us to draw conclusions from a completely different franchise just because they didn't explain anything.

@tombondcrispy6585

2 жыл бұрын

Pity!

This dual was insane, I genuinely appreciated the mixture of realistic saber blows and prequal choreography. I was actually scared of Vader at the end. 5/5 Stars-

@Wantabe2188

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it was amazing

@KentKaliber

2 жыл бұрын

It was far more realistic than the literally SILLY "Flip Flop and Fly" style of the Prequels. I can't stand those silly prequel fights.

@ricetrea8736

2 жыл бұрын

when obi lifted those rocks are one of the best parts

@Wantabe2188

2 жыл бұрын

@@KentKaliber I respect your opinion but strongly disagree

@jusstnc1759

2 жыл бұрын

@@ricetrea8736 I was screaming “LET’S GO OBI WAN!! “ great moment

”Why was Obi-wan so weak against Obi-wan kenobi?” Lol

“You didn’t kill anakin skywalker, I did” Will always remind me of when Obi wan tells Luke that Darth Vader killed his father. This is in my mind the best fight in all of Star Wars, it had it all. Damn near made me tear up when he saw his face after he broke his helmet. So good🥹

I think that everytime Vader meets Kenobi, he is terrified. Except when He burned Kenobi. The rage got the best of him

@lordoffaiyum9727

2 жыл бұрын

Yes what happened on Mustafa would terrify most. Hard thing 2 mentally overcome. Also obi knows him

@jamesfuller7184

2 жыл бұрын

Also Obi-Wan was weak in the force in that second battle.

@NabilAbdulrashidComedy

2 жыл бұрын

It’s a lot like fighting a boxer that’s knocked you out before

@alcottdevalte7440

2 жыл бұрын

They missed out since they should have shown Obi training for a comeback fight in episode 4 for example. This could have been more convincing...

@SeekTheTruth1623

2 жыл бұрын

@@alcottdevalte7440 a Rocky 3 style training montage would have been awesome

Episode 6 was awesome!!! The series could have easily been condensed into a blockbuster movie. The fight with Vader far exceeded expectations and no one expected the head scar strike to happen. Without saying…I liked episode 6 of Obi Wan more than Star Wars episodes 7, 8, and 9.

@jeremyfields9009

2 жыл бұрын

This fight is how the prequel trilogy should have ended to be honest. it was so consistent with a new Hope. U can push rots fight to episode II. Kenobi saying hello to Luke would’ve been the perfect way to end the trilogy.

@rodgarcia6563

2 жыл бұрын

I like steaming piles of dig shit more than 7, 8 and 9...😆 But I think they nailed it with Kenobi. Gives me a spark of hope for the future of SW

@mrcaboosevg6089

2 жыл бұрын

Even the actors don't like 7, 8 and 9. It's the best thing Disney has done so far but saying that the first four episodes were wasted, seeing Palpatine and Qui Gon right at the end with only a few lines leads me to believe more is coming otherwise why would they have bothered to bring them in.

@yunkemoreno2309

2 жыл бұрын

Ashoka strike the mask first.

@jeffarab4947

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly the sequels could of been great but the failure of kylo luke being a weak crazy guy and bringing back sidious was bad. Anything from mandolorian to obi wan series u forget about that garbage 678

This is one of the most outstanding star wars content on You Tube !!! So much could be said and unpacked from this !!!!!!!!!! Great work sir !!!!!!!!!

Yeah I mean Palpatine pretty much said that Vader wasn’t at full power: “Perhaps your feelings for your old master have left you weakened.” Good analysis though.

He was blinded by his friendship with Obi-Wan, blinded from the rage. He was blinded from everything bad. I believe he just thought of the years they had it good together.

@underdawg2743

2 жыл бұрын

A case of how your best friend can become your worst enemy. I have people like that in my life. 1 of them, I'm planning to screw his girlfriend to get my own back.

@tdozzy991

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah i think your right. Sidious sensed it also

@edofluit6568

2 жыл бұрын

@@underdawg2743 you must be an awfull person then

@damueastsidekgb

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙏🏾 I read this after I posted my comments

@Ezekiel336-16

2 жыл бұрын

​@@underdawg2743 Nothing good comes from vengeful sinning.

Obi-Wan actually switched back to Ataru after being buried in the rubble by Vader. More offensive and taking initiative, rather than defensive or trying to anticipate Vader. The icing on the cake was him meeting Qui Gon's force ghost at the end.

@salsaspartan7

2 жыл бұрын

Qui-Gon is Back! :-) What I've always waited for! 😃

@DanAloysius

2 жыл бұрын

@@salsaspartan7 can’t wait for season 2. Also so glad Kathleen Kennedy is out the door going forward!

@zckclaf

2 жыл бұрын

I squealed at Qui gon

"I'm not your failure" Seems like Vader was hinting to Obi-Wan that the decisions he made to become a Sith were his own. I don't think it was an apology...but more of a "I did this...not you. Don't feel sorry for me"

@ryan_c4495

2 жыл бұрын

well yeah, no shit. what else would it mean?

It is important because it shows Disney continues employing writers who don’t give a fk. Obi-wan didn’t even outsmart Vader in that duel like in ep 3, he straight up overpowered him. Terrible writing.

Not really, he was conflicted as it gets and some say Obi-Wan could've finished him, same goes for Vader, twice. Is relevant as to Vader's progression to being ultra OP Vader later as he lets go more and more of Anakin.

@lutilagoo167

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I was like yup he's getting a power upgrade after this 😂😂. The self-hatred will grow after his confession to Obi Wan.

@tomazlah8238

2 жыл бұрын

Obi wan was even more conflicted,he was holding back and his intention wasnot to kill him. He felt sorry for him and took mercy on him.And that was obi wan,after 10 years of doing nothing and cutting himself off force.You could see,how he was getting stronger through the fight with force reawkeaning in him.Vader got exposed,his suit is major weakness.

@tziondudley

2 жыл бұрын

And think it was smart for obi not to push his luck vader has been shown to get a surprising boost strength when backed in a corner as shown with his duel with moff tarkin

@kiraxbara456blitz6

2 жыл бұрын

Problem is that this is a decade after ROTS. Vader should already be at his peak killing jedi. He should be at or nearly sidious level. Obi wan manhandled vader makes NO sense

@Woody-fv7uu

2 жыл бұрын

@UCNAfzopzJ3z6LMZsbw9dSSg Exactly more plot armor bs.

Obi-Wan could have killed Vader twice and chose not to. Truly a merciful and compassionate Jedi

@kieronspiteri

2 жыл бұрын

No he wouldn't

@GrayifiedX

2 жыл бұрын

Vader was toying with him the whole time.

@hitmanfromjapan

2 жыл бұрын

@@kieronspiteri ?

@bradenmchenry995

2 жыл бұрын

@@GrayifiedX no he wasn’t.

@bobegnops5601

2 жыл бұрын

@@GrayifiedX In the finale? He absolutely was not

In my opinion Kenobi didn't defeat Vader rather He beat Himself. The Emperor was right Vader's attachment as seen in Episode 3 where Kenobi's hurt. I sensed Vader allowed His former master to escape & regroup, cause He still has feelings for Him despite their situation on Mustafar. Vader wanted Kenobi's approval (His Master). Not to kill Him!

"That's just lazy writing." - Deadpool

I honestly think obi wan isn’t given his stripes. He’s always portrayed by SW fans as the weakling of the major jedi/sith, and inferior to the others, winning only though opponents weakness in the moment. Obi wan is not only powerful in the force, but able to properly tune into it. He’s also referred to as THE master of soresu, on top of being highly skilled in form 4, his lightsaber skills are elite. However the thing that people fail to realise about kenobi is his ingenuity. He’s extremely fast thinking and quick witted. His ability to improvise and adapt to situations is second to none. We see it constantly in how he capitalises on situations and works so efficiently in the moment. A quality that can trump incredible power or lightsaber skill. He knows how to read a room and find cards that he can use to his advantage. Having this ability and being able to enhance his movement/decisions with the force shows how powerful he truly is. He bested vader fair and square, by being the smarter man. That vader was by no means weaker, obi was just fully in tune with the force and became more powerful than ever before. Almost as if the force realised who he was and allowed him to unlock his latent power.

@jacknicholls9679

2 жыл бұрын

Pooo reveal

@BigBoomOfDoom2

2 жыл бұрын

You're right about him not being given his stripes, but Vader only lost because of arrogance (he could have killed him when he burried him), and because he was off balance, just like on Mustafar. It's not enough to be skilled or powerful, you must remain composed, and you see this throughout the novels and comics. This is Anakins biggest weakness. Kenobi isn't as strong as Anakin or Vader.

@brianschwarm8267

2 жыл бұрын

It’s actually cannon that Obi wan isn’t that strong in the force which is why he makes up for it with his dueling skills, this series was a bit whack with Obi wans force abilities.

@protectyaneck8017

2 жыл бұрын

@@brianschwarm8267 yeah it was out of character but I thought it was dope

@Lordspylotr

2 жыл бұрын

I couldn't agree more. Skill and power is one thing, awareness and cunning is a whole different story… Darth Vader seems more like a super athlete but Obi-wan Kenobi seems more like a real warrior. As the true story of Miyamoto Musashi (the greatest duellist in history who defeated his first opponent at the age of 13 and went on to defeat 61 opponents and never lost a duel) suggests, having skill is good but having strategy, tactics and guile is even better. That is Obi-wan I think, the center forward who seems to have average dribbling, shooting and heading skills, but keeps scoring and winning matches.

Anyone can be someone's weakness especially when you still genuinely love that person and in a way I think Vader's is also Obi Wan's weakness as well because he still refuses to kill his former padawan because he still loves him

@mando4660

2 жыл бұрын

Letting him go makes no sense. He knows he kills innocent people without a care he witnessed it and he knows he can't change him. He knows he will go on to kill more. Kenobi isn't that stupid but the writers are

@AlgorithmMockery

2 жыл бұрын

@@mando4660 it’s a good point but there is a reference when they meet again implying this encounter happened and they both obviously survived. Now we know why. Anakin more or less tells obiwan it isn’t his fault, he did it to himself.

@mando4660

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlgorithmMockery that reference was when Vader said "When I left you" who left who here?

@AlgorithmMockery

2 жыл бұрын

@@mando4660 doesn’t matter how they parted ways, they both survived. Point is it has nothing to do with the writers. Obi wan was the catalyst for Luke when a new hope was made decades ago.

@costaricanwhiteboy

2 жыл бұрын

@@mando4660 I know what you mean and I wish the fight was longer with a better ending but I'm looking at what they've gave me. Vader's weakness is a emotional attachment/some love towards his former master and Obi Wan's weakness to Anakin is a love attachment for a failed parent/mentor. It's hard to kill someone who is practically raised as your child/ little brother. I believe this why "attachment" was a bad thing in the Jedi academy 🤷

Great video bro... excellent synopsis my brother🔥🔥✊🏽✊🏽💯💯

Me *being exited for a new Star Wars movie once The Force Awakens is announced* The movie: "Star Wars is gone. I am what remains." Me: *crying* "Than my franchise is truly dead. Goodbye, Disney."

I just want to know how the hell The 3rd sister takes a lightsaber to the gut and is literally walking around looking for Luke about an hour later. That was ridiculous.

@hieloz

2 жыл бұрын

Meanwhile Quigon "dead"

@ShEDDiNgmYSkiN

2 жыл бұрын

It went through her right shoulder, not her stomach. She was holding in pain it at certain times in the last episode. She may have went in a Bacta tank for a bit and since she's a force user she can heal quicker. They let her live on purpose for some reason which I didn't understand either.

@dungeonguy88

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, we've seen Dark Side wielders literally get bisected and survive it. We've seen the topical medicine in the setting turn fatal wounds into minor inconveniences.

@The_Bastard_Of_Anjou

2 жыл бұрын

@@dungeonguy88 Maul didn't recover till over a decade later though.

@mathijs8537

2 жыл бұрын

@@The_Bastard_Of_Anjou Maul wasnt stabbed, maul could walk and crawl at the same time because of his wounds.

How he said "I will do what I must" was chilling and my favourite moment from the show a season 2 would be amazing

@ranvirmalhi4850

2 жыл бұрын

I think a season 2 is good but unnecessary

@iswiftyfox8997

2 жыл бұрын

@@ranvirmalhi4850 yeah, but if there is one i dont wanna see him fight vader again, I wanna see a new villian maybe maul or grand inquisator. Because mauls story from solo has not been covered yet. We need to see what happens to Reva as she knows lukes identity and location, maybe we can see yoda teach obi dobi kenobi how to become a force ghost maybe see young han again, idk

Loved episode 6. I was laying in bed screaming “YESSSS OBI WAN!” I really loved to see Obi-Wan battle back the way he did .. he was able to tap into what and who he was fighting for. In the previous episodes and episodes leading up to this, Obi - Wan had nothing to fight for, no purpose, no Jedi, only pain. Now he sees the work of the early rebellion, the skywalker twins and a need to survive. He tapped into great power to kick Vaders ass it was a great finish

@deskryptic

2 жыл бұрын

word!

Star wars will never get old for me. Always something interesting

That is exactly what I took from the fight that unlike most dark side users while Vader is getting angry, he doesn't feed off it, he's just becomes more & more frustrated. You can even see how anxious he is when he first double hands his lightsaber he regrips it with his bottom hand like three times. I also really like that he takes responsibility for his own actions by telling Obi-Wan that he is not his mistake, signifying that he understands it was his decision that led down this path not Obi-Wan's failure as a teacher. It's almost a final bit of respect for the man who he once considered family.

@CrypticViper537

2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful analogy my dude. That final bit of dialogue was some of the best we’ve heard and most emotional since ROTS and ROTJ

@alikaandrade3435

2 жыл бұрын

That was an important moment for me. I never thought it was Obi-WAN’s fault

@jdmmike7225

2 жыл бұрын

@@CrypticViper537 No doubt. I was amazed at how much emotion Hayden was able to portray with just that 3rd or so of his face exposed. Definitely some of his best work.

@jdmmike7225

2 жыл бұрын

@@alikaandrade3435 But Obi-Wan did. He felt after ROTS that it was his own inability to teach Anakin to control his emotions and feelings that led down this path. It was very telling for me to see that while he's definitely evil, Vader still told Obi-wan what he needed to hear as a former friend & colleague. Showing cracks in the Sith persona that obviously Luke would later smash open.

@alikaandrade3435

2 жыл бұрын

@@jdmmike7225 true!

Great explanation , the cut scenes/flash backs of Anikin training with Obi reinforces this as fact in my opinion

Always great hearing some extra context on things from your channel. Personally I thought the final episode to Obi-wan was amazing. There was some great closure on a fair few things!!! Whole series was so well done.

Vader seemed desperate for Obi to finish him off in the end. I could be wrong though but it seemed he wanted to die right there when he screamed for Obi-Wan to come back.

@Dwendele

2 жыл бұрын

I thought the same

@lgbak20

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I thought the same thing, he really just wants it to end now since he can’t turn back after all he’s done

@Will-sq3ip

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe that’s Anakin talking. He lost everything and everyone he love, especially Padme. Maybe for a brief moment, Anakin think back about those he lost and want Kenobi put him out of his emotional and physical misery.

@dhalk7744

2 жыл бұрын

@@Will-sq3ip very good point! I never thought of it from this perspective! Very keen insight!

@victorpradha9946

2 жыл бұрын

@@Will-sq3ip Fair interpretation. There's an immense loneliness to Anakin trapped inside all of his wrong choices, his guilt, his shame, his suffocating sense of failure (as a Jedi, as a brother to Obi-Wan, as a pupil to Yoda, as a husband to Padme) and the knowledge that there is truly no place for him to go. On one level, by saying Anakin is gone, perhaps he was giving Obi-Wan permission to finish him off, knowing that Obi-Wan was clinging to the emotional attachment to Anakin. Anakin was rightfully wanting an end to his misery!

Obi wan’s powers at the end of Kenobi could of defeated Count Dooku. He was far more powerful than at any time during the clone wars.

@madsgrams2069

2 жыл бұрын

Yup...it's no accident he later finished Maul off in 2 seconds flat, with just one swing of the light-saber. Obi-Wan's a bigger bad-ass in his older years than he was when he was part of the Jedi Council.

@scerkann3966

2 жыл бұрын

Vader in Kenobi is laughably stronger than dooku and surpassed rots sidious. A stronger version of obi wan got decimated by vader in anh

@DynomyteDewd91

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think Obi Wan was stronger than Dooku in this episode, I think Vader was caught somewhat off guard later in the fight and was at the crux of Obi Wan when his cybernetics were damaged.

@anthonylopez899

2 жыл бұрын

@@scerkann3966 If we count the sc38 fan film as canon then yeah Vader pretty much effortlessly was beating obi wan until he threw the fight but since Disney obviously doesn’t consider that canon, the original episode 4 fight is the canon one and in that fight Vader and obi wan are even, so obi wan definitely wasn’t decimated by Vader. However, I personally prefer the Sc38 version since it shows that Vader is now the master and has learned his lesson, shown by how he easily blocks away obi wan’s strike at his chest plate so as to not lose the same way he did in episode 6, and how all his swings are precise/land and are not wild and dodged by obi wan like they are in the finale, and finally shown by how he is basically on the verge of killing obi wan before Luke interrupts.

@bobbyhill6828

2 жыл бұрын

after 10 years of no training and due to emotions in true disney fashion. Makes complete sense

this brings the duel on the deathstar into perspective for me. Makes sense now. Thank you🤘

Seeing Vader with his helmet smashed, his breathing and seeing Anakin was crazy and Obi Wan saying sorry and what Vader says after was crazy

I think Obi-Wan knew he had to take the offensive this time. Anakin/Vader being so used to being on the offensive himself, having to deal with someone who suddenly started to attack him for once, rather than him doing the attacking. It caught him off guard.

@filipemlribeiro

2 жыл бұрын

He fought Reva minutes before, who was on the offense the entire time, and it did not catch him off guard then. It's about inner focus, not being of the offense/defense

@Cts_99

2 жыл бұрын

Mm nah reva was much more in tune and fluid with her saber due to activity since obi wan was on leave lol… and she was way more offensive vs Vader

Obi wan must be the only one who thought to hit Vader’s panel which controlled his vitals . I think his damaged panel made him weaker plus the fact that obi wan fought like a true Jedi with no fear and taking advantage of the environment around him

@shinzontheta

2 жыл бұрын

One of the things I like about obi wan as a character is that it seems like unlike most jedi who seemed to run from emotion....he attempts to process is and use it as fuel. Like the speed and intensity in which he fights maul in a phantom menance is because he understands that he is has to pass the challenge to deal with what he feels vs wallowing in it like the sith or repressing it like the jedi.

@itsZukka

2 жыл бұрын

After order 66, the amount of Jedi/force users around that would even have comparable light saber ability to engage darts Vader and get close is probably minimal

@Le4thl3

2 жыл бұрын

Lol so stupid, if he could hit vaders panel with the back end of the light saber I’m sure he could have just stabbed him straight through it. The fight ruined the story behind vaders “supposed” power, clearly Vader is not what he was supposed to be. Loses every fight he takes. Pathetic

@dungeonguy88

2 жыл бұрын

@@itsZukka Pretty much goes Kenobi, then Ahsoka, and then pretty much every other surviving Jedi comes far short of that level of ability.

I'm curious as to why after recognizing that Anakin was truly gone and only Vader was left did Obi-Wan leave Vader alive at the end of the finale.

@mikedobson1678

Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t bring himself to do it

@snakerooni

Жыл бұрын

Because we need Vader alive until Return of the Jedi.

@jeremyreed4951

Жыл бұрын

@@snakerooni You know, I think you're right. I never thought of it that way.

@pena380

Жыл бұрын

@@jeremyreed4951 Only reason vader lost wqs because the line in new hope when he says he was only learner when they faced last time but that was really meaning the mustafar fight

@morpheusnorg

Жыл бұрын

@@pena380 actually Vader didn't seem to learn much in his life. Until nearly the end he was still an emotional child/teenager raging at everything. Oh he could be become better but he did not learn from his failiures. He just doubled down.

This is one of the best break down videos. Every Star Wars van should watch this. This makes this episode so much more important and relevant on a character development level and psychology of StarvWars. Great job

Obi Wan had to find the strength in his "weakness" down under the rubble remembering the ones he swore to protect. This energized his fight as a true Jedi to act not for himself but for the ones he protects. Vader is so triggered by that very Jedi "weakness" he wants to kill. Vader refuses to acknowledge that "weakness" within himself. He can NOT face that "weakness" is stronger being the light side of the Force and more powerful. Therefore, Obi Wan will always win in the end

@dungeonguy88

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, we've seen before that quite a few Jedi can push well beyond their theoretical limits when they fully embrace the placing of others before themselves. That selflessness and total commitment and certainty in their path is perhaps the purest embodiment of the Light Side. I'm reminded of Kanan's last stand in Star Wars: Rebels when he held back a massive explosion, willingly and knowingly giving up his own life to save his friends. When a Jedi has found their moment, that time and place that they were meant to take a stand, it seems as if they can become all but unstoppable.

@JesseTheG_

2 жыл бұрын

He didn't only think of the ones he swore to protect, he also thought about Anakin and all the pain they've been through together, which is why I think he actually tapped into the dark side for a moment, Jedi aren't supposed to have emotions

@Fenris30

2 жыл бұрын

@@JesseTheG_ Yes but that's where the Jedi fail, Emotions aren't Bad it's what you do with them that decides things. Attachment are the Very Key to leading a Full life, No Attachments means no Connections there by Weakening you in the Force cause the FORCE IS CONNECTION. That's why the Obi-Wan became so weak, he'd cut himself off from that which gave him Power The People around him. It amazes me how people still don't understand how the Force Works.

@JesseTheG_

2 жыл бұрын

@@Fenris30 exactly. So I'm not sure if he really used the "dark side" but using emotion to fuel the force has always been considered the "dark side" by the Jedi. Is it truly dark though? I agree with what you say about it's how you use those emotions. But the Jedi would say obi wan used the "dark side" in that moment

@dungeonguy88

2 жыл бұрын

@@JesseTheG_ Misconception. Jedi are allowed to have emotions. They're just not meant to relentlessly cling to them, particularly negative emotions. A Jedi feels what they feel. But then they move past it. They process it. And then let it go.

I wouldn't say he's weaker. He's letting his pride best him again, which is why he's so damn cautious in a new hope. 3rd time's the charm.

@maxmx767

2 жыл бұрын

Nah! Was just really bad choreography

@Arigost

2 жыл бұрын

@@maxmx767 That's the real reason yeah. Scene38 is what I imagine it would've looked like in modern times. No caution, Just Vader being superior.

In long sword fencing one of the comon techniques employed when your fighting a superior opponent is to tier them out. It sounds strange but sometimes you aren't going to be faster or stronger no mater how long you train. So you play defense. You take gaurds and positions that threaten your opponent but also defend you. You block pary and counter cut where you can never over exerting yourself, only enough to threaten your opponent. At some point they will mess up. At some point they will hit cocky, or they will tier and that's when you go for the kill. You will only have one chance at best. But I will never forget the moment I took down an aponent 5 years my senior when he got cocky.... an I though my blade point first into his chest. (It was a training sword don't wory) oficaly I had won. The strik hit hard enough to count as a legal hit, and he didn't have enough time to counter attack so It was a clean hit. I was tierd and sweaty. But had the biggest grin on my face. I think he was actually impressed, ended up helping me up and gave me the point that round. However afterwords he beat my ass. But I've always seen that dual as a prime example of playing the long game.

Wonderful job with the breakdown

Why didn't he finish him? I understood in Episode III he couldn't bring himself to deal the final blow to Anakin. But he admitted "then my friend is truly dead" so if it's only "more machine now than man" Vader left in there, why not finish him and save the galaxy some trouble?

@madsgrams2069

2 жыл бұрын

Because he's Obi-Wan and he will never kill another person, even a Sith lord, unless he absolutey has to. He only killed Maul because he knew his hatred and lust for revenge will make him never stop coming after him and he also had Luke to protect.

@MilkSteak55

2 жыл бұрын

cause Vader was alive in episode 4 5 6 lol

@IIILIGHTNINGSKILLIII

2 жыл бұрын

Obi Wan not killing Vader in this episode is the turning point for Obi Wan in his journey with the force. It is his evolution from ROTS yoda saying "destroy the sith we must" to his old masters beliefs "anakins fate now lies in the hands of the force" Obi Wan now sees that he does not need to interfere and trust in the force. Which is why in the end he says "the future will take care of itself" which is the lesson he failed to learn his whole life and now why he can see qui gon

@dhalk7744

2 жыл бұрын

@@IIILIGHTNINGSKILLIII a very keen observation. Thank you for your insight! Obi Wan eclipses his potential in the force by surrendering to its will. Just as Qui Gon Jin was trying to instruct the young Obi Wan Kenobi about the living force in TPM.

@nmz3450

2 жыл бұрын

@@IIILIGHTNINGSKILLIII Well put, I feel like he knew it is not his destiny to kill Vader and maybe someday his son can bring him back to the light

I truly appreciate your hard work. I've thoroughly enjoyed this series. Your explanation makes so much sense. Thanks again brother. 👍🏾

@mystogan4542

2 жыл бұрын

The part where he says why was obi wan so weak against obi wan kenobi? lololol hahahahahahah che che che

Great video. I appreciate this episode more now

"Why is Obi-Wan so weak against Obi-Wan Kenobi", I chuckled.. 😆

Clearly Vader isn’t over his feels for kenobi, he just can’t move passed Anikin, stating he was dead when clearly all that raw anger is still him and not Vader. He’s had a lot to learn before he truly becomes Vader

Loved it, well put together. I absolutely loved the season and the finale gave me all sorts of emotions.

Watching how this duel played out kinda reminds me of the duel between vader and ashoka in the rebels show. Vader letting go of his former self at this point of time really explains the way he treated ashoka, like seeing her distinctively as somebody related to Anakin, but not himself.

Yes! I’ve been trying to explain this to people! Great video!

Vader was weakened during the fight - his eyes weren't orange, thus his connection to the dark side diminished. It was, however, the dialogue with Kenobi that made him kill what was left of Anakin and fully embrace the dark side (his eyes turned orange then). I think that if Kenobi tried to finish him off, vader would fight back even stronger, although physically debilitated.

@SoCalBro.7180

Жыл бұрын

@Gabriel Monteiro 💯 Great point and I agree with you! Also, there was a few times in Star Wars canon where a very battle damaged Darth Vader like in this scene was able to stave off defeat by summoning his full potential within the dark side of the force growing eventually stronger when he was pushed to the brink of actual death. You are right who knows what would of happened next if Kenobi would have attempted to finish Vader off but I think he would of rose to the occasion growing stronger with the dark side of the force. I honestly feel Vader sensed Kenobi's love for him still and that his intent wasn't to actually kill him...

Obi Wan went space Jesus mode

@jheloproductions7619

2 жыл бұрын

Fr fr hahahahah

To put this into more everyday terms, vaders reaction to Ben seems a lot like anyone who has been in love with someone and said person doesn't feel the same way toward them. Generally if you feel that way about someone and they don't reciprocate it leads to all sorts of issues. You take any action or statement by that person way more seriously, they can hurt you or excite you at the drop of a hat, and you are always the weaker more forgiving or hateful person around them depending on their actions. Best just to cut that person out of your life and move on. Vader has put Ben on this pedestal, or at least Annikan has, and he won't consider himself all powerful until he defeats him.

@truesoulghost2777

10 ай бұрын

I'm kind of speechless by reading this....I know it's true.

Well said !! Thoughts along the same path as mine. Thanks for the video, time and effort you put into this channel.

I’m not sure vader was actually that conflicted, however calling Obi wan master, and then telling Palpatine “I serve only you, my master” was interesting. But why Obi wan didn’t try to kill him was disappointing, I would’ve liked it if Obi wan was pulled away by luke being in danger, Obi wan really said “I will do what I must” and then spared him…

@CommanderTexas

2 жыл бұрын

"I will do what I must" means to beat him not kill him. Big difference.

@Daddydeathv2

2 жыл бұрын

Obi wan never executes an enemy. Only delivers a killing blow if absolutely necessary. He's the master of soresu after all

@shinzontheta

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's a greater hell to have to live with yourself and he knew that somewhere inside anakin....his wrongs were eating him alive. That is a pain worse then death.

@sandrafrancisco

2 жыл бұрын

vader is truly a small fry compared to palps. in fact if obi wan had killed him there, then palps or palp's new apprentice would have killed luke.

@byghostlight0

2 жыл бұрын

Jedi arent murderers. They fight only in defense and to protect others, even when in an offensive mode. To kill Vader would be literally giving into the dark side. He wasnt there to kill or indeed fight Vader, he was there to buy the refugees times to escape, thats its. When he said 'do what I must', he was referring to buying them time, and if that meant him surviving. Double bonus. It wasnt anything to do with defeating Vader.

Honestly felt like Vader was an absolute monster and not weak at all. I feel like this was more showcasing obiwans raw power and skill, the fact he needed to reach God tier to even March Vader says qlot. Both did absolutely amazing, after this I can't see anyone defeat Vader or obiwan. They were the greatest during the clone wars and still the greatest during the OT era

@robd1329

2 жыл бұрын

I gotta see this episode!

@armaniwebb4467

2 жыл бұрын

@@robd1329 you watching this and haven't watched the show??? RIP

@robd1329

2 жыл бұрын

@@armaniwebb4467 ...im too cheap to pay for Disney plus. I got netflix

@armaniwebb4467

2 жыл бұрын

@@robd1329 Jesus man

@alamolonewolf4167

2 жыл бұрын

This softens the kick to the stomach I feel about Vader losing, again

This is an awesome enlightenment. Thank you!!

Man this broke it for me. Under no circumstances can this work. If Vader knew Obi-Wan was alive he would stop at nothing to kill him. He wouldn’t stop hunting him ever. If Obi-Wan actually managed to defeat Vader (which he wouldn’t be able to do at that point) then he would have killed him. So all this did was look awful and break the lore of Star Wars all to come off as some bad fan fiction.

Anyone notice the Mirroring between obi won vs Vader and Ashoka vs Vader. They both accept that they must fight vader. They both get overpowered halfway through the fight by Vader’s force. But at the end they both overpower vader and slice the same part of his mask and he calls out to them both. Also the cut on his mask is on different sides which I think symbolises that Ashoka and obi wan are both parts of anakin as in they’re teaching are what made anakin

@islesisle

2 жыл бұрын

'You can extend the mask bit one step further with Luke completely removing Vader's mask. As close as Ahsoka and Kenobi were to him, only Luke could completely return him to the light.

This was a learning experience for vader. I think obi wan being this powerful and letting him live takes away from Luke's story though. Doesnt make sense for obi wan to over power vader with the force. Would have made more sense if he outsmarted him, but this just makes vader look like a chump

@omarren

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! Should’ve made this fight a stalemate, they made him loose so badly and Obi wan walked away without a scratch, bullshit!

@victorpradha9946

2 жыл бұрын

He did OUTSMART him. Vader buried Obi-Wan (alive) to humiliate him. Vader wanted Obi-Wan to know Vader defeated him, to feel that as he died. This was what Obi-Wan was telling Anakin at the end of the flashback duel in epi 5. Anakin loses because of his need to prove himself better than Obi-Wan, to make Obi-Wan feel the sting of defeat. When Obi-Wan emerged from being buried alive, Vader was caught off guard. They dueled and it was evenly matched. Obi-Wan ONLY got the upper hand when he began attacking the machinery that sustained Vader. THIS weakened Vader enough for Obi-Wan to get the tactical advantage. They were match blow for blow and Vader defeated Obi-Wan by overwhelming him with dark side powers. Obi-Wan wasn't prepared to fight this way. When he emerge from the pit, he knew he had to let go of any sentimental connection to Anakin and fight full-fledged.

@therealpureessence2437

2 жыл бұрын

@@victorpradha9946 perfect summary

@youmadvids

2 жыл бұрын

@@victorpradha9946 Not really though. Obi Wan then somehow changed his light saber style to an aggressive one and overpowered vader, it makes absolutely 0 sense. Vader is the master of aggressive power strikes

@topgun1457

2 жыл бұрын

@@youmadvids so is obi wan he is a master of form's 1'3 and 4 aka basic' defensive' and lastly offensive or aka ataru which obi wan showed during his duel with maul and his brother when he removed savages arm

Excellent content sir 🙏 may the force be with you sir

That was a very good breakdown. And I agree, That moment after all this, Both Vader and Obi-Wan believed Anakin was dead.

vader should not have lost that easy...... its a discrace to the choosen one...

@ThatLobster-ly5jz

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed he shouldn’t have lost at all

I love this duel. I feel it hearkens back to the faster more flashy lightsaber fights but I feel its mixes the more slower and emphatic fights of the newer movies. especially seeing obi wan toss those boulders like it was nothing. fn chefs kiss. I will take this one over any of them.....okay maybe not RotS final duel but you get what I mean.

This is fantastic analysis. Truly superb. I’ve watched the episode twice and the duel a 3rd time, but I’m headed back to watch again with fresh eyes.

Excellent analysis :)

I don’t believe Vader had a moment of weakness with Obi Wan. Obi Wan was the weakened one until he finally let the full presence of light side of the force in. Anakin in the armor would be enough for the majority of Jedi but for a fully powered Obi Wan the outcome would not be easy.

@hybridlionable

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with this. Vader had some conflicts, but so did Obi-Wan. Everyone wants to write off Obi-Wan, making him the least of the main characters. People always want to go, “Obi-Wan only won because of this!”.

@Sunstar808

2 жыл бұрын

@@hybridlionable 👍👍👍

@tayc9542

2 жыл бұрын

Vader could have won if he wasn’t conflicted. I’m not saying this is why Obi Wan won but I’m just saying it could have been different if Vader let go of his past

I believe that after the fight between the two, Obi-Wan was speaking to Anakin until the red covered Vaders face when he said, I killed him

"When I left you, I was but the learner. Now I am the master." -Vader

@emperorvitiate1844

Жыл бұрын

Only a master of evil dark

Darth Vader wasn't just fighting Obi Wan, he was fighting Obi Wan and Anakin Skywalker. The latter's love for his former Master probably made Vader pull his punches (I mean he buried the guy he was hunting for so long probably because he could not actually kill him?) until Vader permanently neutralized the Anakin that was still deep within him, pushing him to a distant dormant place in his mind that only his son could reach decades later.

While there may be some issues in this show I absolutely love just how much emotion it gave to Vader and Kenobi. It highlighted a cunning yet broken Obi-Wan willing to do whatever he could to survive. It highlighted a cold and ruthless Vader, the same man who raided the jedi temple and slaughtered countless jedi masters. One thing that kept coming to my mind seeing the final episode was the exchange between kenobi and Vader in a new hope where Vader says when he last left him he was but the learner and now he is the master, I think this videos does a great job of highlighting why that is so. The growth in obi wan and the emotional turmoil of Vader really made me feel like we finally received the missing character link between the prequels and the original trilogy. Vader tried desperately to destroy every vestige of Anakin, yet despite all this if he had truely succeeded, seeing Luke suffering at the hands of the emperor would have had no effect on the cold and ruthless Vader.

It was an awesome duel, but tbh I wanted to see that Vader had grown wiser and have it come out as a draw

Awesome video. Thanks. That's y I'm subscribed. Because u are awesome

Even if this was true, they did a horrible job at showing Darth Vader losing all cool, and turning to rage to fight Obi-Wan.

This makes no since at all to me. Vader literally went through hell and back in the cannon Disney comic books destroying everyone and everything. He came to a understanding of who he was but here he loses his cool? Like did that whole spiritual domination mean nothing when he was done building his castle? Or are the comics another universe as well?

@youmadvids

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree. I also don't understand why he was conflicted here? He wasn't conflicted on Mustafar? And he's had a decade to wallow in regret and defeat only pushing him farther towards the dark side, and he wasn't conflicted in A New Hope? Makes 0 sense and I don't know why people aren't bringing it up more.

@higglybiggly1174

2 жыл бұрын

@@youmadvids there's a difference between thinking you're over something or past it when it's not around, and then being confronted with it in person. In the comics he overcomes his connections to Anakin, at least, that's what we are led to believe. The "spirit domination"scene ends with a glimpse of Luke, and a blinding blue light. Essentially showing Vader his future, but he doesn't know what it means. He didn't dominate anything in that moment, he just believes he did and Anakin is gone. We see, throughout all of canon, Padme was right. There is good in Vader and it never leaves however feint. In this scene he is confronted face to face with Obi-Wan. He hears an apology. He feels the remorse. He wants it to mean nothing to him, but he is obviously conflicted. Calling Obi-Wan master, telling him he killed Anakin. This is all brought to a head with Luke. Luke was the spark that ignited the fire of light in Vader, but there had to be something there to catch. "tell your sister, you were right", Anakin never left Vader, no matter how many times Vader tried to deny that, tried to say he killed Anakin. He had the same ties to the past, the same connections and love in Padme and Obi-Wan.

@wolfbounddrawolf

2 жыл бұрын

@@higglybiggly1174 I have to disagree with this. That entire comic was him going through the motion of him giving into the Darkside. He literally killed all the masters with no remorse AT ALL. He literally feels himself getting stronger as time went on. He dominates not only his past in spirit realm ( which is literally the one place you need to go to overcome and surpass yourself as a Jedi or sith ) but also his current self. Yes like showed up at the end but like you meant he didn't know what that meant. At that moment in time the only thing that mattered to him was over coming his past self and he was shown doing so. For him to make a full 180 and go back on that even though he has had multiple trials before this makes no since. This even contradicts new hope. I mean Anakin is down over and over again even when he rages out of control he grows stronger by the second and obi wan hasn't fought a serious or any fight since he arrived on tattoine. So him being Anakin makes no since. No matter how great the force is he shouldn't be a match for Vader. Who hunted and killed Jedi.

@charasmaticcritic1731

2 жыл бұрын

@@youmadvids On Mustafar he was finished dealing with Padme. Here, there is no Padme. There's just emotion. There's just what Obi Wan has told him from their last battle.

@youmadvids

2 жыл бұрын

@@higglybiggly1174 By this logic then Ben Kenobi should have beat Vader in a new hope due to such conflict and he should have beaten him offensively on mustafar. Vader showed prowess over Kenbi as a jedi Knight and has only enhanced his skills after his loss on mustafar. He wasn't conflicted on mustafar, besting kenobi until his arrogance left him vulnerable. He wasn't conflicted in a new hope either. Now however, we are to believe the "anakin" side of him hindered his ability to be vastly outclassed in this series?

Good analysis. I am amazed that Obi Wan was able to get so good so fast in this fight. Good enough to best an emotion Vader with his judgment clouded by the solo goal of hurting Obi Wan. Blinded by his own feeling, allowing himself to get mad and lose control. Still believe Vader should have put up a better fight tho. Looking forward to hearing what your thoughts about the dialogue with the two at the end, and why Obi Wan let Vader live yet again. Knowing all that he has done and will do.

@masonhigginbotham9375

2 жыл бұрын

you should go back and watch the return of the sith and maybe you will understand.

@byghostlight0

2 жыл бұрын

Obi-wan is not a murderer. He is not there to defeat Vader, and in some senses he has zero reasons to do it. At best he is only there to save the refuges and buy them time, and possible try to turn Anakin back, but instead he is blinded by how inhuman Anakin now is and cant see the opening thread (thanks Demon Slayer for that term) that Luke will later be able to use for redemption. Vader did put up a great fight, but he is fighting his old master, who knows all the BS tactics Anakin will use, he can try to be all big and bad in his silly suit, but there is still a kernel of Anakin's arrogance that constantly got him defeated by Obi-wan in their mocks duels (see previous episode duel)

@eskanda3434

2 жыл бұрын

@@byghostlight0 But Obi Wan WANTED Luke to confront and kill Vader in ROTJ? But he didn't do it himself... twice??? That makes no sense

@byghostlight0

2 жыл бұрын

@@eskanda3434 Because he knows HE can not do it BECAUSE he tried at least twice to do it and failed. So how does it not make sense that a person who has learned his lesson on multiple times, a decade ago, suggests that someone else might have better luck, by leveraging a different type of emotional connection? Also by this stage what else do the rebels have to lose, what else is Luke to do? Obi-wan advises that because he knows it is a Hail Mary play.

@rhysmorris1199

2 жыл бұрын

@@byghostlight0 yeah I understand what you mean. There is emotional attachments. But it's like the lesser of two evils in a way. Obi wan belived he killed vader first time but didn't. Vader then went on to do horrible things. So surly second time time around you would swallow any emotion and kill him. More so for the sake of the galaxy.

Excellent work!

The Vader kenobi conversation at the end of the fight was mind blowing

It was so weird and even frustrating to see Obi-Wan defeating Vader so straightforwardly and aggressively. He's supposed to be an underdog who compensates with his skill and wit, fighting defensively and being smart. He's supposed to be all about defense. Especially after a 10-year gap of no training. I was really hoping to see Kenobi outsmart Vader, rather than defeating him head-on. The show itself implied it a couple of times, particularly in the flashback scene.

@WKidd1776

2 жыл бұрын

I've got to disagree respectfully- I think Kenobi knew full well that this was not the fight to be playing the underdog in. I think when he took up his famous stance and faced Vader forthrightly, he acknowledged that there was a time to run and a time to fight- and hearing his dialogue in the ship, he knew it was his day to fight. This also, I think, represented his acceptance of the last lesson Anakin would teach Kenobi- they both feared each other for ten years, and he finally let it go and looked his problems in the eye. Vader was too powerful for Kenobi to play his normal underdog game- there's too much at stake and he cannot lose or Luke and Leia are exposed. When he charged into that fight, he no longer feared Vader- he was obviously torn up about Anakin, but Vader held no more power over him than he could take with a lightsaber at that point. I think Kenobi's aggression in this case is righteous anger and resolve to finish this thing between them- he's fighting for Luke and Leia, sure, but he's also fighting to avenge everything Anakin stole from him by slaughtering the Jedi. Once he discovers that Anakin is indeed dead, he leaves. There's nothing else to accomplish, at least nothing that can be done practically. In doing this, he figuratively gets the high ground yet again and also demonstrates to Vader that despite his great and terrible power, he is still at the mercy of his past.

@WKidd1776

2 жыл бұрын

Also- I do think apologizing/forgiving Anakin is a way of Kenobi outwitting Vader- it was this forgiveness that allowed him to see Qui-Gon in the end and ultimately learn how to become a force ghost. It was forgiveness that allowed him to become more powerful than Vader could imagine, I think. Pretty smart, if you ask me.

@2gunzup07

2 жыл бұрын

Vader is weak garbage he can only beat some trash nobodies,kids, and made up people for a video game. Matter fact he lost to star killer none canon but star killer was vastly superior to any vader